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Title: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on January 9, 2006, 02:26 PM
Hall of Fame announcement is tomorrow... 

Here's to hoping it's finally Bert's year to shine.   :-\
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on January 10, 2006, 04:10 PM
Here's to hoping it's finally Bert's year to shine.   :-\

No love for Bert... :'(

No love for Goose either, but finally the Hall opened it's doors for Sutter on his 13th try.

Here were the top ten vote getters:

Bruce Sutter      400  76.9% 
Jim Rice             337  64.8%
Rich Gossage    336  64.6%
Andre Dawson  317  61.0%
Bert Blyleven     277  53.3%
Lee Smith          234  45.0%
Jack Morris        214  41.2%
Tommy John      154  29.6%
Steve Garvey    135  26.0%
Alan Trammell     92  17.7%

Rice got closer this year with 65% (he had about 60% last year), but he's going to have a hard time getting in next year because some big names are going to hit that 2006 ballot - Cal Ripken Jr, Tony Gwynn, Mark McGwire...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 10, 2006, 04:14 PM
I'm a little out of touch on the process for the Hall of Fame - does just the top vote get in?  I thought there were a couple guys each year that entered the Hall.  ???
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on January 10, 2006, 04:17 PM
I'm a little out of touch on the process for the Hall of Fame - does just the top vote get in?  I thought there were a couple guys each year that entered the Hall.  ???

You need to get 75% of the possible votes to get in. 

So, for example, this year you needed to get 390 (votes out of a possible 520) in order to get in...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on January 10, 2006, 04:18 PM
I'm a little out of touch on the process for the Hall of Fame - does just the top vote get in?  I thought there were a couple guys each year that entered the Hall.  ???

You need 75% of the votes to get in, which this year was 390.  There's no cap to the number of players elected each year (although it's usually very low, 1-3 players.)  As long as you have 75% of the votes, you're in.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on January 10, 2006, 05:55 PM
I hate their system for getting into the HOF.  My God you have to be almost a super-human ball player to even have a hope and prayer of getting that many votes. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on January 10, 2006, 06:06 PM
I think its a crime Jack Morris is not getting in, that guy was the best big game pitcher in baseball in the 80's and early 90's and won four rings

When I think of pitchers of the 80's I think of Gooden, Ryan, Clemens and Morris
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Clone On Fire on January 11, 2006, 08:46 AM
I hate their system for getting into the HOF.  My God you have to be almost a super-human ball player to even have a hope and prayer of getting that many votes. 

Yup, plus the writers/voters have to like you as a person.  You would have had to kiss some media ass in your day.


I think its a crime Jack Morris is not getting in, that guy was the best big game pitcher in baseball in the 80's and early 90's and won four rings

When I think of pitchers of the 80's I think of Gooden, Ryan, Clemens and Morris

I think Ryan and Clemens are slam dunks.  Morris and Gooden, on the other hand, are going to have problems.  I'd say Gooden is definitely not going to the Hall, especially with his problems with cocaine lately.  But I know what you mean about the pitchers of the 80s, I'd like to also add Mike Scott to that list.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on February 1, 2006, 03:17 PM
Frank Thomas?  Didn't want him.

Mike Piazza?  Didn't need him.

The Twins found their man in Ruben Sierra (http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060131&content_id=1304063&vkey=news_min&fext=.jsp&c_id=min)...  wait, what the hell?

This is the guy we needed for a power boost?   ???

A 41yr old .268 career hitter who hit a whopping .229 last year for the Yankees? I guess I just sit back and hope it pans out...  :-\
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: John C on February 4, 2006, 10:19 AM
The thing that really gets me about the Twins bargain basement shopping this offseason is how Terry Ryan came out and said they would spend money to get some hitters.  They should have spent a little more IMO and picked up some people who would help this team.  They just basically replaced Jones and LeCroy with similar hitters.  They will need the people they picked up to have career years just to improve the team a little.  I wish Pohlad's cheap @ss would just sell the team to a local who wants them.  Maybe then a new stadium deal could get done.  Nobody wants to give Pohlad one after all the crap he's pulled. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on February 6, 2006, 05:41 PM
Well part of the problem for a lot of teams was that the FA crop was not all that great this season. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 6, 2006, 09:02 PM
Well part of the problem for a lot of teams was that the FA crop was not all that great this season. 

Agreed.  A very subpar class.  I'm thinking I may go to see 1 or 2 of the World Baseball Classic games at Angel Stadium.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on February 9, 2006, 10:09 PM
LA Angels it is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2325102
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: John C on February 16, 2006, 09:44 AM
So Sammy Sosa will probably retire.  I used to like the guy until the corked bat incident and the enhancement issue.  What a shame.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Clone On Fire on February 17, 2006, 03:49 PM
I must say, as much as I'd hate to, that this looks like the Yankees year.  With a healthy pitching staff (that's deep) and adding Damon, I really think that this could be a 100+ win year.  Plus Robinson Cano might really go ape**** this year.  That is one scary outfield the Yankees have there with Sheffield, Matsui and Damon.  Actually, the infield is scary too if Giambi is Giambi again.  Never hurt to have A-Rod either.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: John C on February 20, 2006, 09:23 AM
Have they picked up any pitching?  I really haven't been paying attention to them.  If they have the same staff as last year, they might still have some problems.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Clone On Fire on February 20, 2006, 09:48 AM
Well, the staff is healthy.  Pavano was the big missing piece last year.  Wang is healthy too:

R. Johnson
M. Mussina
C. Pavano
S. Chacón
C. Wang
J. Wright

The Yankees are going to score a ton of runs this year as well, their batting order looks something like this:

1. Johnny Damon, CF
2. Derek Jeter, SS
3. Alex Rodriguez, 3B
4. Gary Sheffield, RF
5. Hideki Matsui, LF
6. Jason Giambi, 1B
7. Robinson Cano, 2B
8. Jorge Posada, C
9. Bernie Williams, DH
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on February 20, 2006, 01:39 PM
Well, the staff is healthy.  Pavano was the big missing piece last year.  Wang is healthy too:

R. Johnson
M. Mussina
C. Pavano

If those three guys can stay healthy, the Yankees staff looks pretty good, especially if the offense gives them a ton of runs to work with.


Should be interesting to see how things shake out this year.  I don't have a lot of confidence in my Twins since they didn't do very much to shake up the line-up (although the new infield is looking pretty good), but I think they will do OK if they get the offense rolling.

Chicago Chi-Sox will need to have another strong start or they could find the Tribe and the Twins chasing them much harder this year than thye did last year...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on February 21, 2006, 08:48 PM
So Sammy Sosa will probably retire.  I used to like the guy until the corked bat incident and the enhancement issue.  What a shame.

Being a Cub fan I still can't believe how far he fell from grace so quickly.  He must have really been relying on the roids and corked bat.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Ithorian Clergy on February 26, 2006, 02:54 PM
Ah yes, Spring Training in San Diego, watch as the promise of another stellar year unfolds...

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060225/capt.azet10202252013.padres_spring_baseball_azet102.jpg)

(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060225/capt.azet10102252008.padres_spring_baseball_azet101.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: John C on March 1, 2006, 09:42 AM
I am excited that the Twins will be on TV Thursday night.  I know it's just Spring Training baseball, but it's better than no baseball.   ;D
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 3, 2006, 12:53 PM
WTF?!?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2006, 02:42 PM
Well, it's that time of year again...


Jeff's Picks for 2006:

AL East - Yankees
AL Central - Chicago
AL West - Oakland
Wild Card - Toronto

I think Damon will put the Yankess back on top of the Red Sox, and I think his loss will hurt the Red Sox much more than they thought.  All the moves that the Jays have made will let them slip by the RedSox and into the Wild Card.  Might even win the East if the Yankees experience a pitching break-down. It breaks my heart not to pick my Twins, but they just didn't add enough offense this winter while Chicago seems to have improved even more.


NL East - Atlanta
NL Central - St. Louis
NL West - San Diego
Wild Card - Mets

After 14 wins in a row, I can't pick against Atlanta.  If they manage to implode somehow (finally), then the Mets will sneak past them.  The NL West was probably the toughest to pick.  If Bonds was a 100% lock to stay healthy, I might pick the Giants, but since he doesn't seem to be healthy yet, I'll stay with the Padres (though their pitching may haunt me on that one).

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 27, 2006, 02:57 PM
Well, it's that time of year again...


Jeff's Picks for 2006:

AL East - Yankees
AL Central - Chicago
AL West - Oakland
Wild Card - Toronto

I think Damon will put the Yankess back on top of the Red Sox, and I think his loss will hurt the Red Sox much more than they thought.  All the moves that the Jays have made will let them slip by the RedSox and into the Wild Card.  Might even win the East if the Yankees experience a pitching break-down.

No chance in hell the Blue Jays are getting by the Red Sox.  The Jays starting rotation is solid with Halladay at #1, and Burnett who is very overrated at #2, and then after that drops off to Ted Lilly or Gustavo Chacin at #3.  The Jays don't have a fraction of the offense or pitching to come close to challenging the Yankees or the Red Sox, and will not win more than 85 games.  Where is this offense coming from, Vernon Wells?  Cuz that's about it.  Troy Glaus will be lucky to not fracture his vagina like he usually does, and the addition of Lyle Overbay is not going to challenge Gary Sheffield, Alex Rodriguez, Hideki Matsui, Derek Jeter, and Johnny Damon.  The Jays are a glorified .500 team.  Sorry Jeff, but that is a crazy prediction man.  Absolutely no chance.

AL East - Yankees
AL Central - Chicago
AL West - Anaheim
Wild Card - Red Sox

NL East - Braves
NL Central - St. Louis
NL West  - Dodgers
NL Wild Card - Mets


Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 27, 2006, 03:00 PM


I think Damon will put the Yankess back on top of the Red Sox


Back on top?  They Yankees haven't finished lower than them.  Can't be put back on top of someone you've always been on top of. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on March 27, 2006, 05:20 PM
Re: Toronto

I think they have a few surprises in store this year.  Maybe you're right and they won't make it anywhere, but what fun is it to just pick the Yankees and the Red Sox every year anyway?  That's like picking all the #1s in the Final Four - boooooring.   Everyone likes to pick a Cinderella team every now and again...  ;)



Back on top? They Yankees haven't finished lower than them. Can't be put back on top of someone you've always been on top of.

I guess that is a point on which we'll have to disagree as I do not think the Yankees were on top of the Red Sox last year. 

Both teams finished the 2005 season with basically the same record (and basically a .500 record against each other) and neither advanced any farther than the other in the playoffs.  In my mind, that makes them pretty equal. 

So, what I meant was instead of being pretty much equal teams again this year as they were last year, the Yankees will be back on top of the Red Sox.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 28, 2006, 08:37 AM
Re: Toronto

I think they have a few surprises in store this year.  Maybe you're right and they won't make it anywhere, but what fun is it to just pick the Yankees and the Red Sox every year anyway?  That's like picking all the #1s in the Final Four - boooooring.   Everyone likes to pick a Cinderella team every now and again...  ;)



Back on top? They Yankees haven't finished lower than them. Can't be put back on top of someone you've always been on top of.

I guess that is a point on which we'll have to disagree as I do not think the Yankees were on top of the Red Sox last year. 

Both teams finished the 2005 season with basically the same record (and basically a .500 record against each other) and neither advanced any farther than the other in the playoffs.  In my mind, that makes them pretty equal. 

So, what I meant was instead of being pretty much equal teams again this year as they were last year, the Yankees will be back on top of the Red Sox.



Well, let's not overlook the fact that the Yankees were the American League East Champions, and the Red Sox were the Wild Card.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on March 28, 2006, 09:48 AM
NL East - Hotlanta
NL Central - Chicago Cubs :o
NL West - Trollydodgers
NL Wild Card - Saint Louis Cards

AL East - New York
AL Central - ChiSox
AL West - Anaheim
AL Wild Card - BoSox
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 28, 2006, 01:18 PM
AL East: Yankees
AL West: Angels
AL Central: White Sox
AL Wild Card: Indians

NL East: Mets
NL West: Dodgers
NL Central: Cardinals
NL Wild Card: Astros

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on March 28, 2006, 07:52 PM
I'll take a stab at it. 

AL East:  Yankees
AL West: Angels
AL Central: Cleveland
Wild Card:  White Sox

NL East: Mets
NL Central: Cardinals
NL West: Dodgers
NL Wild Card:  Cubs 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: stormie on March 29, 2006, 04:12 PM
My buddy at work and I submit our picks to each other each and every year. We're always way off, but it's fun to give each other grief at the end of the season. Here's mine this year:

NL
East: Mets
Central: Cards
West: Giants
Wild Card: Atlanta

AL
East: Yankees
Central: Cleveland
West: Angels
Wild Card: Toronto
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2006, 08:32 AM
FIGHT!!!!!!

The windup....

(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452136_7_2.jpg)


And the pitch...


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452138_7_2.jpg)


And the follow through...


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452608_7_2.jpg)


"Oh crap, he didn't go down, what was I thinking?"


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452610_7_2.jpg)


"I know, let's punch him again that might work.  Oh crap here comes Carl Crawford.  He's so fast."


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452798_7_2.jpg)


"Okay okay okay I was just clownin' guys don't...agh...not in the...AGHHGHGHGHH!!!"


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452612_7_2.jpg)


"Ow...Ow....Ow...."


(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452614_7_3.jpg)



 :o
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2006, 08:48 AM



(http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5452614_7_3.jpg)




Ha ha look at the 2 seasoned citizens clapping as Cathwright, Cantu, and Crawford tackle and beat the hell out of Julian Taveras.  They're actually giving an ovation.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on March 31, 2006, 12:28 PM
That is the biggest girly punch I've ever seen.  Who punches like that?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on March 31, 2006, 01:39 PM
That is the biggest girly punch I've ever seen.  Who punches like that?

Basketball players :-X
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2006, 03:39 PM
That is the biggest girly punch I've ever seen.  Who punches like that?

Basketball players :-X

I'll never forget the muscle-bound 260 lb. Alonzo Mourning slapping like this at center court during a brawl.  Good observation Bug.

 :D
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: stormie on March 31, 2006, 03:51 PM
He may have been trying to avoid damaging his pitching hand, too. It's far too easy to break a metacarpal with a traditional non-wuss punch. My fifth metacarpal on my right hand can attest to this. ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on April 4, 2006, 09:12 AM
CUBS ARE IN FIRST PLACE!!!! 

It may be the only time I get to type that this season.  So, there it is for 1 or 2 days. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 4, 2006, 10:50 AM
CUBS ARE IN FIRST PLACE!!!! 

It may be the only time I get to type that this season.  So, there it is for 1 or 2 days. 

The thing is if they could ever keep Carlos Zambrano, Mark Prior, and Kerry Wood healthy for the season, absolutely nobody would touch them in the NL Central, including the Cardinals.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on April 4, 2006, 01:34 PM
CUBS ARE IN FIRST PLACE!!!! 

It may be the only time I get to type that this season.  So, there it is for 1 or 2 days. 

The thing is if they could ever keep Carlos Zambrano, Mark Prior, and Kerry Wood healthy for the season, absolutely nobody would touch them in the NL Central, including the Cardinals.

Oh yeah I know it.  This is the rotation if healthy:   

Zambrano
Kerry Wood
Mark Prior
Wade Miller
Greg Maddux

Now it's: 

Zambrano
Glendon Rusch
Greg Maddux
Sean Marshall 

Sigh :(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 4, 2006, 02:23 PM
That is the biggest girly punch I've ever seen.  Who punches like that?

Basketball players :-X

I'll never forget the muscle-bound 260 lb. Alonzo Mourning slapping like this at center court during a brawl.  Good observation Bug.

 :D

That was hilarious!  Good call Brent.  They do punch like that.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 4, 2006, 02:38 PM
Here's Mine

AL East Boston
AL West Angels
AL Central White Sox
Wild Yankees

NL West Giants
NL Central Astros
NL East Braves
Wild Cards
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on April 8, 2006, 12:28 AM
Taveras, what a classy player.  I'd love to see Taveras and Bruce Bowen locked in the same room to fight to the death.

Then I'd like to see the winner devoured by a rabid tiger.

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on April 10, 2006, 07:09 PM
Big Papi signs four year extension with Red Sox (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2403952)

 ;D
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on April 12, 2006, 01:52 PM
Oh man...the Royals are ******* KILLING me.  Take a 3-0 lead in the first only to lose it after 3 batters.  And that's after a pair of 3-run homers yesterday.  It's gonna be another rough year.   :'(

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 12, 2006, 02:13 PM
Oh man...the Royals are ******* KILLING me.  Take a 3-0 lead in the first only to lose it after 3 batters.  And that's after a pair of 3-run homers yesterday.  It's gonna be another rough year.   :'(

John

Dude, if you're a Royals fan, I'm really sorry, but it's going to be a rough rest of the decade.  They don't bring any good players in and they haven't been bringing up much good young talent.  They're just...flat.

As a Yankees fan, it was nice to see Sheffield hit that 3 run bomb, he's really been struggling since Sunday.  On Saturday, he hit a line drive home run that almost took Chone Figgins' head off at 2nd base, then it wound up over the right/center field wall after being just 6 1/2' off the ground at the edge of the infield dirt.  That was an amazing sight.
Title: Re: MLB 2005
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 16, 2006, 11:45 AM
The Rangers finally pulled the trigger and got an excellent starter.  I'm trying to decide if Millwood is a top tier pitcher or not.  He's a number 2 in most rotations, but an ace in Texas.  Nothing seemed to rattle the guy at the press conference yesterday announcing his 5 years $60 million contract...thanks Scott Boras...dumbass.

Anyway, bought time the Rangers finally nailed down a pitcher.  I guess it makes Texas a little more attractive now for Clemens should they decide that they can swing $20 million for him and all of his perks.

This is the second coming of Chan Ho Park.  Since coming up 10 seasons ago, Millwood really has had 3 good years.  In '99, '02, and '05 where his ERA's were respectively 2.68, 3.24, and 2.86.  The other 7 years his ERA was always a minimum of 4.03 or higher.  He is an excellent 2 or 3 starter.  He is not an ace.  The funny thing is he got paid exactly what Park did, $12 million/year.  Both of them are worth about half that.

His start so far this season in 3 games is 1-2 with a 5.50 ERA.
Title: Re: MLB 2005
Post by: Jeff on April 17, 2006, 03:33 PM
(http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/images/2006/04/15/8JLdqRGt.jpg)

As Meatloaf once said, "two out of three ain't bad."  :D



And, in other news, I was listening to the radio today and they were talking MLB Payroll (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5476130).  I hadn't heard yet that thanks to all the off-season trades, the Florida Marlins Payroll is less than $15 million. 

That means that at least 12 players in MLB this year will make more than the whole 25-member Marlins team combined.
1. Alex Rodriguez - $25,680,727
2. Derek Jeter - $20,600,000
3. Jason Giambi - $20,428,571
4. Barry Bonds - $20,000,000
5. Jeff Bagwell - $19,369,019
6. Mike Mussina - $19,000,000
7. Manny Ramirez - $18,279,238
8. Todd Helton - $16,600,000
9. Andy Pettitte - $16,428,416
10. Magglio Ordonez - $16,200,000
11. Randy Johnson - $15,661,427
12. Chan Ho Park - $15,333,679


In fact, the top trio of Yankees on the list together make more than 13 teams.  Add in Mussina and you have more money in those four guys than in 17 others have in their entire team.   :o
Title: Re: MLB 2005
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 18, 2006, 03:24 PM
Here's the complete list of team salaries:


link (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5476130?GT1=8021)
Title: Re: MLB 2005
Post by: Jeff on April 18, 2006, 04:05 PM
Hard to believe that the Twins are in the middle of the pack there in payroll... of course, all they have to do is trade Torii and BRadke mid-season (~$20 million between them) and then they drop back down the bottom quarter.   :P

Title: Re: MLB 2005
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 18, 2006, 08:12 PM
I just had to turn the TV off.  As a Yankee fan, I gotta go on the record right here and say that they had better get 2 quality starting pitchers in here right now, or they are going to be in BIG ******* trouble.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 18, 2006, 08:43 PM
Sigh.

Randy Johnson is going to give you 18-20 unhittable starts out of 30.

Mike Mussina, IMO, is just an average pitcher at best the past 2 seasons.  He hasn't been good since 2003, coincidentally that's when he stopping striking out hitters.  The past 2 seasons I have not trusted him on the mound.

Who knows what you're going to get with Wang.  I really don't know.

Jaret Wright stinks.  I don't ever want to see him on the mound for the Yankees again.  Put him in the same category as Kevin Brown.

Carl Pavano tore his anterior vaginal wall again.  He did it last year and when he was healthy he stunk anyway.

I do not know if we're going to get heroics from Aaron Small and Shawn Chacon again.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on April 20, 2006, 09:06 PM
God must really hate the Chicago Cubs.  Lee breaks to bones in his wrist on a freak play last night.  He's out 8-10 weeks.  I don't know.  That curse talk might be correct.  There is no law of averages, bad management, not good enough teams, to explain all that has gone wrong in 98 years :)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 20, 2006, 10:20 PM
God must really hate the Chicago Cubs.  Lee breaks to bones in his wrist on a freak play last night.  He's out 8-10 weeks.  I don't know.  That curse talk might be correct.  There is no law of averages, bad management, not good enough teams, to explain all that has gone wrong in 98 years :)

That was a really bad break.

No pun intended.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 21, 2006, 03:24 AM
Awww, Gary Matthews Jr. got "tagged too hard" by Jose Lopez.  FIGHT!!
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060421/capt.watw11104210439.rangers_mariners_baseball_watw111.jpg)


(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060421/capt.watw11004210457.rangers_mariners_baseball_watw110.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 21, 2006, 10:49 PM
Holy crap, anyone else here remember Derek Bell?  Decent player back in the day...


And now for another episode of "Where Are They Now?" :


(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060421/capt.tp10104211621.bell_charged_baseball_tp101.jpg)


Former Major League Baseball outfielder Derek Bell, shown in this Hillsborough County Sheriff's booking photograph, was arrested and charged Thursday morning April 20, 2006 with felony cocaine possession. A Tampa, Fla., police spokesman says Bell was pulled over for a traffic violation and was found with a crack pipe in the back seat of his car which was still warm. He was also charged with possession of drug paraphernalia. Bell was first drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in 1987 and won the World Series with the team in 1992. He last signed as a free agent with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2000. He also played for the San Diego Padres, New York Mets and Houston Astros.


(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9ibyGWNmUlENhcAAs6jzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=125i7ifvc/EXP=1145760525/**http%3a//tampabayonline.net/reports/top100/bell.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 22, 2006, 07:33 PM
Re: Toronto

I think they have a few surprises in store this year.  Maybe you're right and they won't make it anywhere.



Surprise #1: $55 million well spent


(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060422/capt.fng10204220052.red_sox_blue_jays_baseball_fng102.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on April 26, 2006, 10:21 AM
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060421/capt.tp10104211621.bell_charged_baseball_tp101.jpg)


Former Major League Baseball outfielder Derek Bell, shown in this Hillsborough County Sheriff's booking photograph, was arrested and charged Thursday morning April 20, 2006 with felony cocaine possession. A Tampa, Fla., police spokesman says Bell was pulled over for a traffic violation and was found with a crack pipe in the back seat of his car which was still warm. He was also charged with possession of drug paraphernalia. Bell was first drafted by the Toronto Blue Jays in 1987 and won the World Series with the team in 1992. He last signed as a free agent with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2000. He also played for the San Diego Padres, New York Mets and Houston Astros.

What is it with former athletes always getting into trouble in my home town?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 26, 2006, 02:30 PM
Were those 2 Panthers cheerleaders in your hood too?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 12, 2006, 07:13 PM
Sigh.  Gametime in NY, and I'm sitting here pretty bummed about Gary Sheffield and Hideki Matsui being on the shelf with severe injuries.  Pretty depressed here.  I don't even feel like watching.

 :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 20, 2006, 03:46 PM
Uh Oh!!!!

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/oly_full.getty-57208726jd005_chicago_cubs_.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on May 22, 2006, 08:59 AM
Yep, Barrett comes through with the sucker punch!  Oh well, at least it fired up my lowly Cubs the next day.  As if any more wood needed to thrown on the fire for that rivalry. 

Oh by the way.  Wood starts one game....to sore to pitch his next came.  Sigh...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 23, 2006, 01:42 PM
Who knows what you're going to get with Wang.  I really don't know.


How 'bout batting practice? The way it looked yesterday anyway. Yanks were schooled yesterday.

Saw an interesting article that pointed out how A. Rod likes to go AWOL in the playoffs for the yanks...found it amusing ..and interesting. Thankfully all that money can't always buy a championship :P

Signed a Yankees hater
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 23, 2006, 02:32 PM
Who knows what you're going to get with Wang.  I really don't know.


Thankfully all that money can't always buy a championship :P


Yes but it can 26 times.

For the record, please state your team.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 23, 2006, 03:30 PM
NHL-sharks
NBA-kings
NFL-49ers
MLB-Giants
WNBA-Monarchs 

I could add the solano steelheads and the Sacramento river cats in here but, would folks know what I was talking about?

I'm a underdog favoring, cursed team type of fan.
Well, actually I am a Northern Cally sports team fan...and, it just so happens that those teams just don't generate the kind of revenue(see LA or SOCAL) that other areas do-which translates to coming close but just not it.

We lucked out and won something last year (Monarchs). Well, I can barely remember when the 49ers won last but I've been a northern Cally fan of sports for 26 years now. Unfortunately, I live in SOCAL now >:(.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 23, 2006, 08:19 PM
Dumbass of the night:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/oly_full.getty-57208750dm012_braves_v_padr.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 24, 2006, 01:08 AM
I missed that...did the joker run on the field in the SD/ATL game? Was it on Sportscenter?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on May 24, 2006, 01:28 AM
We had a yutz jump on the field in Friday's Royals/Cardinals game.  Assclown with a mohawk.  He got tackled *immediately* by the ball boy in left field and the kid held him down until security got there a few seconds later.  Freakin' hilarious.  :)

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on May 24, 2006, 02:13 AM
I missed that...did the joker run on the field in the SD/ATL game? Was it on Sportscenter?

Networks don't show fans running on the field so ESPN wouldn't have video.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on May 25, 2006, 01:42 PM
Man, I didn't think Pujols would keep up his fantastic start, but it sure looks like he's already the clear MVP choice in the NL (and it's not even June).

45 Games
48 Runs
51 Hits
23 HRs
57 RBI
37 BBs
12 Ks
.323 Average
.804 Slugging %

I heard on the radio this morning that he is on pace for 80 HRs and only 45 Ks if he keeps it up...  :o
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 25, 2006, 04:29 PM
I'd say unless he gets hurt he's a lock for the MVP nod.

Jim Thome is probably the current frontrunner in the AL, but less of a lock than Pujols for sure:

.304  18 HR  44 RBI  41 R
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 29, 2006, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Jeff link=topic=12039.msg229488#msg229488
I heard on the radio this morning that he is on pace for 80 HRs and only 45 Ks if he keeps it up...  :o
[quote





It sounds nice but somehow I don't think he will get as many chances to rip 'em as the season wears on. What he's done so far has amazed me but look at all his walks so far-I see him getting the 'Bonds treatment' alot more often midway through the season. I guess what I'm impressed with the most is the low number of strikeouts- I could see him reaching a 'low' record there.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 29, 2006, 11:26 PM
Obviously it's way too early to predict this, but I think Pujols has a real nice chance at challenging the single season HR record this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Roton7 on May 29, 2006, 11:34 PM
Wow, I almost fainted when I heard that the Cubbies finally won a game...maybe this will restore my fading hope I had in them.


 ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on June 2, 2006, 12:09 PM
A few comments:

1)  Hooray!  Allard Baird is gone!  I feel bad saying that, because I feel his heart was really into the Royals organization.  I just don't think he has what it takes to be a successful GM.  Too many questionable moves, not quite the eye for talent that the Royals need.  Not that it's solely his fault that the Royals have sucked - it goes from the top (please sell, Mr. Glass) to the bottom.  I feel better about the future now though.  I do wonder if Buddy Bell is next on the axe list once Moore starts as the GM.  I think he has the hard-ass mentality the Royals need from a manager but he's never proven himself to be a winning manager.

2)  The All-Star balloting system is worthless.  I have said that in the past, and I will continue to say so.  Jim Edmonds on top as an All-Star right now?  Pfft.  I still think the weight of the balloting needs to be split among media, players, and the public.  Then again the powers that be gave the AL Rookie of the Year to a guy that hit .237 with 140 Ks and 19 errors a couple of years ago.

3)  Roger Clemens.  *yawn*  Please, just stay in retirement.  Coming out of retirement - again - to weasel $22M out of the Astr...er...help the Astros win the division.

4)  Have there been more injuries this year, or is it just that there is a god and he hates my fantasy baseball team?  I lost Derrick Lee and Contreras earlier, not to mention (literally) a good 8-10 other players.  Now Kent goes down.  It just seems there are a lot of people getting hurt, particularly big-name players.

John

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on June 2, 2006, 11:36 PM
4)  Have there been more injuries this year, or is it just that there is a god and he hates my fantasy baseball team?  I lost Derrick Lee and Contreras earlier, not to mention (literally) a good 8-10 other players.  Now Kent goes down.  It just seems there are a lot of people getting hurt, particularly big-name players.

That's because they all had to quit taking their steroids!   :P :D
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on June 3, 2006, 07:53 PM
So what do you think?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ifyoubuildthemmoneywillc&prov=tsn&type=lgns

Todd Jones - future award-winning sportswriter?

(http://www.toytraderz.com/images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif)

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 3, 2006, 08:37 PM
So what do you think?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ifyoubuildthemmoneywillc&prov=tsn&type=lgns

Todd Jones - future award-winning sportswriter?

(http://www.toytraderz.com/images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif)

John

Well, in this case, it may be better to "quit the day job" with that ERA of 6.00 and WHIP of 1.50 as a closer  ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2006, 10:29 AM
Man.

Just when I start getting excited about my squad again (they rolled off 8 wins in a row this week to get back to .500), I look up the standings in our division and see this happening...

White Sox 8, Texas 4
White Sox 12, Cincinatti 4
White Sox 8, Cincinatti 6
White Sox 8, Cincinatti 1
White Sox 20, St. Louis 6
White Sox 13, St. Louis 5

6 wins in a row, with an average of 11.5 runs a game over that span... and they're not even leading the division!

Not looking good for my squad at all...  :-\

I am planning on plopping myself in front of the TV tonight for Liriano V. Clemens though... should be a pretty interesting match-up, Young Gun V. Old Legend.   ;D

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on June 22, 2006, 11:02 PM
I am planning on plopping myself in front of the TV tonight for Liriano V. Clemens though... should be a pretty interesting match-up, Young Gun V. Old Legend.   ;D

Great Game!

Clemens looked pretty good... but Liriano looked even better.   :D

- Clemens threw a ton of pitches, 100 (59 strikes) in his 5 innings
- Liriano threw about the same number, 97 (72 strikes) in 8 innings

The Santana (7-4, 2.87 ERA) and Liriano (7-1, 2.17 ERA) duo is looking like a beautiful 1-2 punch.   :)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on June 28, 2006, 03:58 PM
The Twins are an astounding 15-1 over their last 16 games... I wish we could play the National League teams every week!  ;)

Still, this is just getting irritating...  even though we rolled off another win today, we're still 11 games out of first place!

AL Central
54-25   Detroit
50-26   Chicago
42-35   Minnesota

Last 20 Games:
17-3   Detroit
16-4   Chicago
17-3   Minnesota

Incredible!  I long for the days our division sucked...  :P
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 28, 2006, 04:08 PM
I'd say the Twinkies are a big bat (Soriano, Abreu or the like) away from taking that division over.

Santana/Liriano could be the best 1-2 in baseball, though there are other good ones:

Halladay/Burnett
Oswalt/Clemens
Zito/Harden
Sheets/Capuano
Zambrano/Prior


But with all the injuries I think Santana/Liriano has a hammerock on the "Best 1-2" Title right now.  And in the postseason, that wins championships.  (See Schilling/Johnson Diamondbacks)

They need a bat.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: stormie on June 28, 2006, 04:26 PM
Maybe the Twins could make another steal trade with the Giants for a bat. Heck, they only had to dispose of Pierzynski to get Nathan, Liriano and Bonser (an all-star closer and two-fifths of their rotation). That trade still stings.

However, the Giants really don't have a bat worth taking...or on Geritol.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 28, 2006, 06:20 PM
The Twinkies got themselves in an early hole and the Tigers and Sox were playing great from the start so it's gonna take a serious run to get into 1st place.  I don't see it happening.  They have to hope one of those 2 teams cools off big time and aim for the wild card.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 28, 2006, 07:14 PM
The Twinkies got themselves in an early hole and the Tigers and Sox were playing great from the start so it's gonna take a serious run to get into 1st place.  I don't see it happening.  They have to hope one of those 2 teams cools off big time and aim for the wild card.

Last season the White Sox had a 16 game lead on the Indians at the break and the Indians trimmed it to 1 game in September, and finally didn't make the playoffs with about 93 wins.  So that Sox team did cool off mightily and struggled all September long.

The Tigers, well, I think they'll cool a little bit as well.  I don't know if Kenny Rogers is going to lead that team to a division title.  I guess we'll see.  The only thing stopping me from saying that they are like last season's Nationals is that their pitching staff is very good.  Young, but good.

I don't know if the Twins are gonna get a bat, but if they do, look out.  That duo in the rotation with Nathan nailing down the ninth, they're formidable.

But they need a slugger.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on June 28, 2006, 09:54 PM
Oh you're totally right that anything is possible and last year's Indians nearly proved that, but it requires the Twins to stay hot and one of 2 teams to basically fall on their ass so the odds are against the Twinkies.  Getting a big bat will help, assuming a deal is out there. 

I'm just amazed out how wide open the field is this year because there is no 1 dominant team.  It's anyone's trophy at this point.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 28, 2006, 10:56 PM
I don't know about Abreu, but Soriano is definitely going somewhere by the deadline, as the Nationals are not resigning him and need to get something for him in mid-July before he just walks away from the team 2 months later.  And they can get a lot for him.

I'd say just about any team in a pennant race would want him, but I think the Yankees in particular have a nice shot at getting him back, especially with Sheff and Godzilla out.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on June 29, 2006, 09:35 AM
All the sports-talk-radio wanks around these parts seem to be stuck on a "Torii Hunter and Kyle Lohse for Soriano" rumor that popped up earlier this week (or maybe last week).

That rumor just won't die around these parts.  I find the deal hard to believe as it stands now, but I guess if they added a few more bodies, it might work out...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 29, 2006, 09:40 AM
All the sports-talk-radio wanks around these parts seem to be stuck on a "Torii Hunter and Kyle Lohse for Soriano" rumor that popped up earlier this week (or maybe last week).

That rumor just won't die around these parts.  I find the deal hard to believe as it stands now, but I guess if they added a few more bodies, it might work out...

As long as Soriano would sign with them for a multi-year deal, they ought to pull the trigger on that.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 4, 2006, 11:26 PM
Anyone else here sick to death of Jose Canseco opening his stupid mouth?  He was a childhood hero of mine when I was 10 years old and in Little League, and now I can't stand his backstabbing ass and took both of his autographed pictures off my wall.

Why he did that to his peers, I cannot understand.  Especially since it appears he did it for money.

 ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 4, 2006, 11:28 PM


White Sox 8, Texas 4
White Sox 12, Cincinatti 4
White Sox 8, Cincinatti 6
White Sox 8, Cincinatti 1
White Sox 20, St. Louis 6
White Sox 13, St. Louis 5



I'm too tired to check this second, but I have a hunch the Sox may have scored more in this 6 game stretch than the Houston Texans did in any 6 game stretch last season.  I dunno, but it's close.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 6, 2006, 12:00 PM
oh boy (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=afp-baseballusacanseco&prov=afp&type=lgns)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on July 6, 2006, 01:21 PM
Thank God someone's finally willing to set personal gain aside and do what's best for the league!   :-X






Although if half of what he says is true - then my sarcasm would be misplaced...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 6, 2006, 01:26 PM
 ::) yet another attention demanding book. Why do I draw the similarities between a certain Korean president and Canseco?

All the first book did was cause a witchhunt. I'll bet alot are scoffing at this attention demanding 'threat'. I'm sure they're all trembling over the fallout :P.

'I'm gonna telll, I'm gonna telllllll'...... ::), please
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 6, 2006, 01:32 PM
Although if half of what he says is true - then my sarcasm would be misplaced...


EVEN if what he said were true ..this guy is still crying ...look at me, look at me ..or
'It started with me and it will end with me'(egotistical much?). Did he just not get enough attention as a baby?

This whether true or not is ONLY for self-promotion( IMO sickening)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on July 6, 2006, 02:38 PM
::) yet another attention demanding book. Why do I draw the similarities between a certain Korean president and Canseco?

All the first book did was cause a witchhunt. I'll bet alot are scoffing at this attention demanding 'threat'. I'm sure they're all trembling over the fallout :P.

'I'm gonna telll, I'm gonna telllllll'...... ::), please

Like I said, if there's something to tell, then it's a good goddamn thing that someone's got the guts to do that.  Even if that someone is a showboating maroon.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 6, 2006, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't exactly say he has guts....he knows he's not well liked so I'm sure it's more that he knows his likeability can't get any worse and there's a slim chance folks will thank him for doing it..which will bolster his ego and he'll feel important in some way.

Agree with the Maroon comment I do ;D. Has anyone else seen his TV interviews? I find them sadistically hillarious.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 6, 2006, 03:01 PM
In his first game he playd in that other league, he was drilled in the back with a fastball.

And that should happen every time he steps to the plate.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on July 6, 2006, 03:50 PM
In his first game he playd in that other league, he was drilled in the back with a fastball.

And that should happen every time he steps to the plate.

A true martyr for the sport, willing to take this kind of punishment in the name of fairness and justice.

It's rare that you see this kind of passion for the game.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Holographic Elvis on July 6, 2006, 05:22 PM
The fact anyone listens to this guy anymore is beyond me. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on July 7, 2006, 12:22 PM
Well, I would never buy his book but, I find his TV interviews entertaining.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2006, 12:47 PM
The fact anyone listens to this guy anymore is beyond me. 

I do not think he is lying.  He really did a number on Rafael Palmeiro, and Canseco was right, Palmeiro did perjure himself before Congress.

It's the backstabbing and doing it for the money that is what's on my nerves.  He was irresponsible with his money the whole time he was earning big bucks in the majors, he was arrested for assault, pulled over and charged with illegal handgun possession, used steroids, has been in all kinds of trouble, had to sell his AL MVP ring for the money, and now is stabbing his peers in the back for cash.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Roton7 on July 12, 2006, 02:54 PM
National League was ONE STRIKE away! One Strike! And we had one of the best closers in the game pitching! And now it's an entire decaded since we've won.  :(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on July 12, 2006, 03:20 PM
And now it's an entire decaded since we've won.  :(

I don't recall voting for a Roton7, nor do I recall seeing him play last night.  ???

The All Star game is a crock of ****.  There should be no way in hell that the winning league gets home field advantage - the team with the best record at the end of the season should get home field throughout.  It shouldn't be decided by a glorified exhibition game.

And this "every team needs a representative" is crap too.  I'm sure everyone was jizzing in their pants when Mark Redmond was selected.

And now Selig proposes that the All Star pitchers not pitch on the Sunday before the game?  It's just one brilliant idea after another from that ******bag.  ::) 



Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on July 12, 2006, 04:39 PM
I'm afraid I'd agree with Mikey there. 

Best record, end of argument. 

As for not pitching before the game on Sunday, yeesh, since when does part of the regular season get trumped by an all star game?  It could be the one game that makes the difference between playoffs and vacation time.  This isn't the NHL, not that many teams make the playoffs. 

I understand the every team needs a rep mentality, but it is indeed crap.  Why should some deserving guy be left off because there's three other all-stars on his team and not one on another?  You can't artificially introduce parity.  Sheesh, what's next, not cutting kids from teams?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on July 12, 2006, 04:50 PM
And this "every team needs a representative" is crap too.  I'm sure everyone was jizzing in their pants when Mark Redmond was selected.

*raises hand*

:)

Kidding...I'm a lifelong Royals fan and still think Redman was the worst All-star selection in history.  Not that the Royals had a truly deserving representative, but I would have gone with Grudzelanik or DeJesus over Redman in a second.  Maybe even Emil Brown.  He's at least hitting .280 with 40+ RBIs.  I do think it's nice to have a representative from each team, but Guillen's choice could have been better.  I know many will argue that by allowing people on from teams just because they have to robs other possibly more deserving players of slots on the team, but that's going to happen anyway.  First, the fans tend to vote in the more popular players anyway regardless of their numbers.  Second, there are only 30 slots on the roster anyway, so there will *always* be more good players than open slots.  It's unavoidable that good players will be left off the team.

About the All-star game "counting", don't even get me started.  Selig has had some dumb**** ideas, but this is certainly near the top.  Yeah, it makes perfect sense that these 60 players, 75% of which aren't going to play in the playoffs anyway, are going to be the ones to decide who gets home-field advantage.   ::)  Let the best team have home-field advantage...end of story.

And again, don't get me started on these ******* ninnies that are pitching.  "Oh, I pitch on Thursday so I can't throw an inning on Tuesday in the All-Star game."  Freakin' panzies, I tell you.  The All-Star game is supposed to be an honor.  These guys should be begging to get an inning in just to say they played.  Nope...can't throw 30 extra pitches because you might blow your arm out.  ******* wimps.

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 12, 2006, 05:32 PM
And now it's an entire decaded since we've won.  :(

I don't recall voting for a Roton7, nor do I recall seeing him play last night.  ???


And this "every team needs a representative" is crap too.  I'm sure everyone was jizzing in their pants when Mark Redmond was selected.



OK, I don't recall voting for a "Mark Redmond" either then Mikey D, nor do I recall seeing him play last night.

I recall a Mark Redman though.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Broem on July 30, 2006, 02:51 PM
Yay!  It's almost the trading deadline.  I am just kind of interested to see what happens.  The latest is Abreau to the Yankees.  I assume Maddux will go to some team desperate for more pitching down the stretch.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on July 30, 2006, 03:01 PM
I sure hope the Twins pull the trigger on a Soriano deal, that would be sooo friggin sweet and soooo out of character of the conservatism they have shown the past 15 years.  People still here are reliving the Shannon Stewart trade from a few years ago who hasn't done **** since the year he got him

They need another power hitter...they need an outfielder.  Mauer/Morneau/Soriano that would be sick.  Come on, please

Also props to the guy who predicted Liriano to be Santana Jr. around here a few months ago, same idiot who dropped him a few weeks later  ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2006, 10:27 PM
How freaking good is David Ortiz?

Seems like every time I watch a Red Sox game he's hitting a 9th inning home run.



I wish I'd drafted him where I drafted Teixeria...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on July 31, 2006, 11:42 PM
If it's any consolation, I wish I'd drafted him where I drafted Arod.

Just for reference sake, at this point in the season:

Arod:                    73 22 74 09 .280   - 1st pick overall
Carlos Lee:          63 28 82 12 .294   - 6th round pick (42nd)
Grady Sizemore:  84 16 49 16 .302   - 7th round pick (43rd)
Justin Morneau:   60 28 86 01 .316    - free agent pickup
Chase Utley:        90 21 69 11 .327   - 4th round pick (28th)

Trust me, I'm pleased with Arod's overall numbers and I'm hoping he can come out of his slump for the better part of the second half. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on August 1, 2006, 10:38 AM
I sure hope the Twins pull the trigger on a Soriano deal, that would be sooo friggin sweet and soooo out of character of the conservatism they have shown the past 15 years. 

Oh well, at least we dumped Lohse...   :P
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on August 1, 2006, 02:04 PM
I sure hope the Twins pull the trigger on a Soriano deal, that would be sooo friggin sweet and soooo out of character of the conservatism they have shown the past 15 years. 

Oh well, at least we dumped Lohse...   :P


I feel the same about Affeldt.  :)  I'm kind of bummed about Stairs.  Even though he's a bit old he's still a decent hitter and a good guy to have around for the sake of the younger guys. 

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on August 8, 2006, 04:56 PM
Francisco Liriano likely is headed to the disabled list  (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/15222118.htm)  :'(

I sure hope it's just a minor muscle thing and not something that will require surgery... recent Twins pitching prospects haven't seemed fare all that well after surgery (Milton, Mays, etc).   :-\

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 8, 2006, 09:42 PM
Francisco Liriano likely is headed to the disabled list  (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/15222118.htm)  :'(

I sure hope it's just a minor muscle thing and not something that will require surgery... recent Twins pitching prospects haven't seemed fare all that well after surgery (Milton, Mays, etc).   :-\



Whew, I was actually afraid of the Twins this year as a Yankees fan.

But just as it's cheap that we lost Godzilla and Sheff due to injuries, it's cheap that you may not be able to throw Liriano in the playoffs, if you even make it that far now.

Gotta say, I was not looking forward to facing Santana Game 1, Liriano Game 2, Radke I guess Game 3, then back to Santana/ Liriano Game 4/5.  That really would have been Schilling/Unit-esque when the 'Backs ripped us up.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JediMAC on August 12, 2006, 03:47 AM
Nice to see the Dodgers and Angels finally turning things on over the past month.  Had SoCal fans in a deep snooze up until that.  Not entirely sure it'll last, but considering the relatively weak Western division in the NL, I suppose the Dodgers have as good a shot as anyone in there.  If they can just keep Nomar and Kent on the field, instead of the DL, their chances should be much better.  Some continued consistent pitching from Penny and Lowe will help, and if Maddux is re-inspired (as he appears to be so far) and can regain some of his former form, we'll have a solid staff going into the stretch run this next month.  Of course, losing Gagne at the beginning of the season (again) absolutely sucked, but I guess if he hasn't been around for the past couple years, it's not really all that much of a loss if you think about it.  Lost potential, more like.  Sad to see his career getting shat down the toilet by all his injuries...

Fingers crossed that one or both can make the post season again this year.  Still waiting for that dream "Freeway Series" that I've been praying for since I was about 5 years old!  Might get SoCal sports fans minds off of the recent Lakers fiasco, at least.

I see the Halos still seem to have the Yank's number!  :P
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on August 21, 2006, 11:30 AM
Kudos to ESPN for choosing to show all those Red Sox vs. Yankees games this weekend and NOT choosing a Twins/ChiSox game instead. 

Why would anyone want to watch a nice Radke/Garland or Santana/Vasquez match-up (with AL Wild Card Implications) when they could watch yet another Yankees/RedSox game instead.  ::)

Why watch one of the hottest teams in baseball take on the defending World Champs when you can watch more of Boston getting the crap kicked out of them by NY?   :P

I guess maybe there is something to that ESPN "east coast" bias everyone always talks about...  ;)

In fairness though, thanks to the Yankees for kicking the crap out Boston this weekend.  Time to bury them, so my Twinkies only have to worry about getting past Chicago for that Wild Card slot.   ;D


Anyway, some fun Johan stats.

- Santana (15-5) hasn't lost at the Metrodome in 20 starts, dating to Aug. 6, 2005. He is 13-0 with a 2.03 ERA during that stretch.
- The Twins won each of those 20 Santana games, becoming the first team in the modern era (since 1900) to win 20 straight home games that were started by a particular pitcher.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on August 21, 2006, 01:01 PM
If it's any consolation, there's a similar bias up here with TSN (The [Toronto] Sports Network) and it applied universally across sports.  No matter how lousy the Toronto team is, they'll always supplant a better game, because it's more important ::)

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on September 6, 2006, 12:07 PM
Memo to the Minnesota Twins:

When they do finally allow Human Cloning, get started here:

(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/scorecard/11/12/truth.rumors/p1_santana_getty.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 13, 2006, 02:40 PM
Okay how bad did Liriano hurt himself today?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on September 13, 2006, 04:35 PM
Not much in the way of reports, but my guess is the kid was lying to the Twins again saying he's better than he really was.  Heart's in the right place but not so much his brain.  I know he's just trying to help, but let it heal kid. 

Even if it's not bad, my guess is unless they go deep in the playoffs he's done for the year :'(  And he might be done for the year regardless, depending on how bad it was.  Yahoo is reporting he threw a really low pitch and slumped over on the mound clutching his arm.  Buh-bye. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on September 13, 2006, 06:26 PM
From what I've read he's done for the year and may be headed to Tommy John land...and the Yankees breath a sigh of relief >:(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on September 20, 2006, 11:00 AM
Where's Colman? 

I thought for sure he would have posted in here yesterday, to tell us about the amazing Dodgers comeback against the Padres the other night, with back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers in the bottom of the ninth to tie it up, and then the come-from-behind, winning home-run from No-mah in extra innings. . .
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 11:10 AM
Where's Colman? 

I thought for sure he would have posted in here yesterday, to tell us about the amazing Dodgers comeback against the Padres the other night, with back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers in the bottom of the ninth to tie it up, and then the come-from-behind, winning home-run from No-mah in extra innings. . .

JediMAC doesn't bother with that anymore, because he fears my responses.

 :)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 11:39 AM
That and today he knows it would have been too late to post it since they turned right around and gave up the division lead again to the Padres last nite ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 11:44 AM
That and today he knows it would have been too late to post it since they turned right around and gave up the division lead again to the Padres last nite ::)

If the Mets didn't just roll through whoever makes the NL playoffs anyhow, and get to the World Series (against the Yankees), I'd be pretty surprised.

The Padres got totally rump wrangled in the first round last year, and I'd expect more of the same would happen when the Dodgers or Padres, whoever it is, runs into the Mets this year.

The playoffs have Yankees/Mets Part II written all over it this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 20, 2006, 11:56 AM
I generally agree although I wouldn't be suprised if either team blew it and didn't make it to the series either. I don't think the national league west team will suprise anyone.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on September 20, 2006, 12:20 PM
The playoffs have Yankees/Mets Part II written all over it this year.

If Liriano would have stayed healthy, I might have to disagree with you on that,

As it stands now, I'd really like to see the Twins manage to win the Central so we can play Oakland instead of NY in the first round.  That way, Mauer/Morneau and the rest of the guys who haven't been to the playoffs would get thier playoff jitters out of the way in Oakland before having to roll into Yankee stadium and face that kind of atmosphere.

Santana/Silva/Garza/Bonser can beat Oakland in a 5 games series, but going against the Yankees with our current pitching mess would be... well, worrysome.   :-\
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 20, 2006, 01:04 PM


Santana/Silva/Garza/Bonser can beat Oakland in a 5 games series, but going against the Yankees with our current pitching mess would be... well, worrysome.   :-\

Mmmmm not convinced.  Harden is back tomorrow.  Rich Harden, Danny Haren, Joe Blanton is every bit as good as Santana, Silva, Garza, if not better.  If Liriano was in, and Radke, I'd agree with you.  It's likely a 3 man rotation in round 1.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 22, 2006, 11:20 AM
Well, at least Santana won't have to pitch to Ortiz in the playoffs...he should be relieved about it :P


That was a crushed ball last nite.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on September 26, 2006, 01:00 PM
Congrats to the Twins fans in the audience.  What fun it is to be a Royals fan and watch two opposing teams clinch playoff berths on consecutive nights.  :)  While I'm bummed the White Sox didn't make it, it is nice to see the Tigers make such a turn from two years ago and to see the Twins' resurgence from their early record.  At this point I'm rooting for the Twins and Cards in the World Series (though no one knows what the hell is going to happen in the NL yet).

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 01:10 PM
Well, at least Santana won't have to pitch to Ortiz in the playoffs...he should be relieved about it :P


Yeah instead it'll be this

1.  Damon, CF
2.  Jeter, SS
3.  Giambi, DH
4.  A Rod, 3B
5.  Sheffield, 1B
6.  Matsui, LF
7.  Abreu, RF
8.  Cano, 2B
9.  Posada, C


And they've beaten his ass before  :)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on September 26, 2006, 01:33 PM
And they've beaten his ass before :)

Which is why I'm still holding out hope for a Detroit stumble that allows us to win the AL Central.  I said it before, but hosting the As in the first round sounds a lot better to me than heading to Yankee Stadium to kick things off. 

I'd much rather all of our young guys got their first playoff experience in the friendly confines of the Dome rather then Yankee Stadium.  Plus, I still think some combination of Santana/Bonser/Silva/Garza can beat Oakland (especially with our Dome field advantage). 

Versus the Yankees though?  Even if you forget Santana for a minute (I have faith in him), that Yankee line-up (with lots of playoff experience) could be a lot of trouble for our playoff virgin/rookie pitchers like Bonser or Baker or Garza.

Eh, anyway you look at it, it's nice to just have my squad back in the playoffs especially after the slow start and all the pitching staff injuries they've had to weather this year.  (And, to a lesser extent, it's nice to see the White Sox out of it :P)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 02:31 PM
Here's what we got in Round 1, 5 game sets:

AL East Champion New York Yankees vs. Wild Card Tigers or Twins

AL West Champion Oakland Athletics vs. Tigers or Twins

NL East Champion New York Mets vs. Wild Card Phillies, Padres or Dodgers

NL Central Champion St. Louis Cardinals or Houston Astros vs. Padres or Dodgers
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on September 26, 2006, 03:13 PM
Here's what we got in Round 1, 5 game sets:

AL East Champion New York Yankees vs. Wild Card Tigers or Twins

AL West Champion Oakland Athletics vs. Tigers or Twins

NL East Champion New York Mets vs. Wild Card Phillies, Padres or Dodgers

NL Central Champion St. Louis Cardinals or Houston Astros vs. Padres or Dodgers

The Phillies, if they win the WC, won't play the Mets.  Even if it's best team vs. worst team (which will probably be the case), WC winners don't play division rivals in the first round.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on September 26, 2006, 05:31 PM
Well, at least Santana won't have to pitch to Ortiz in the playoffs...he should be relieved about it :P


Yeah instead it'll be this

1.  Damon, CF
2.  Jeter, SS
3.  Giambi, DH
4.  A Rod, 3B
5.  Sheffield, 1B
6.  Matsui, LF
7.  Posada, C
8.  Cano, 2B
9.  Cabrera, RF


And they've beaten his ass before  :)

Well they sure as hell don't have to worry about ARod.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 05:41 PM
I wouldn't bet the house on that, Bug.  He could go ape**** and hit 4 HR's against the Twins with no problem. 

But still and all, we don't need ARod.  We're winning the World Series this year with or without him hitting.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on September 26, 2006, 05:46 PM
Any team that has a $200 million payroll should win the World Series
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 07:08 PM
Any team that has a $200 million payroll should win the World Series

We're operating under the rules that govern MLB, and paying luxury tax under those rules to management and owners like your's in Minnesota who aren't as good as our owner and front office at marketing and fund-raising to pay that payroll.

Why don't you Twinkies over there get a clue like the Mets, Red Sox, and Yankees have on how to operate ideally under the rules of Major League Baseball, win some playoff games, and stop whining that you're not as good as other teams.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on September 26, 2006, 07:48 PM
I wouldn't bet the house on that, Bug.  He could go ape**** and hit 4 HR's against the Twins with no problem. 

But still and all, we don't need ARod.  We're winning the World Series this year with or without him hitting.

Quite, I'm just being like 98% of the rest of the fans out there disappointed in ARod.  His numbers are actually fine, they just don't merit the first pick in a fantasy draft.  Or the first round.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on September 26, 2006, 09:42 PM
I'm not complaining in the disparity in payroll between the Twins and the Yankees, I'm saying you spend $200 million and you should win the World Series every single year.  I fully expect the Yankees to crush the Twins, however, I hope they don't. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 09:55 PM


Quite, I'm just being like 98% of the rest of the fans out there disappointed in ARod.  His numbers are actually fine, they just don't merit the first pick in a fantasy draft.  Or the first round.

I agree that he shouldn't be the first pick in the draft.  I think next year the top 5 are going to be:

Albert Pujols
Ryan Howard
Alfonso Soriano
Carlos Beltran
David Ortiz

However, in a 12 team league, I do think ARod's numbers warrant him being taken in the 2nd half of the Round One still:

.284   34 HR   117 RBI   108  Runs   14  SB 

Also, let's not forget that he is the reigning AL MVP.  When the Yankees win the World Series a month from now as well, I think he'll be relaxed and put up slightly better numbers.  Hell, he'll have an MVP and a Championship, what else do the fans want?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 26, 2006, 09:57 PM
My last post just reminded me what an injury-riddled disaster my fantasy baseball season was.

Thank goodness NFL is in season.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 28, 2006, 11:06 PM
Well, at least Santana won't have to pitch to Ortiz in the playoffs...he should be relieved about it :P


Yeah instead it'll be this

1.  Damon, CF
2.  Jeter, SS
3.  Giambi, DH
4.  A Rod, 3B
5.  Sheffield, 1B
6.  Matsui, LF
7.  Posada, C
8.  Cano, 2B
9.  Cabrera, RF


And they've beaten his ass before  :)

Well they sure as hell don't have to worry about ARod.

Whoops, I forgot Abreu!!  Too many all stars to remember.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 28, 2006, 11:10 PM
Pedro done.  All you delusional Mets fans can come back down to earth now.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2006, 12:51 PM
Going to be a fun weekend for watching baseball!  We've got 3 division races still on the line this weekend with 3 games left!

Also, it was really nice to see Radke take the mound last night!  He seemed to pitch well, and barring any pain issues today/tomorrow, he should be ready to start game 3 of the playoffs. :)


Pedro done. All you delusional Mets fans can come back down to earth now.

What a bad time for a calf injury... Chances of a NY v. NY Subway Series just went down quite a bit.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 29, 2006, 12:54 PM
It all depends who the Mets run into in the post-season.  If they run into the Astros and have to face Clemens-Oswalt-Pettitte, the Mets can forget about the World Series.  Nobody else is going to stop them, in my opinion.  That is, until they meet the Yankees in the World Series and get stomped.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 30, 2006, 05:35 PM
Mets' Pedro Martinez has torn rotator cuff, will miss most of next season as well. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2608613)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 1, 2006, 08:43 AM
75% chance as of right now that the Yankees and Twins will meet in the first round.  Pitching (Johan Santana) usually beats good hitting, but not overwhelming hitting.  This offense will go down as one of the greatest in the history of baseball:

1.  Johnny Damon, CF:  . 286  24 HR   80 RBI   115 R   25 SB
2.  Derek Jeter, SS:        .345  14 HR   96 RBI   118 R   33 SB
3.  Bobby Abreu, RF:      .297  15 HR  107 RBI    97 R   30 SB
4.  Alex Rodriguez, 3B:   .290  35 HR  121 RBI  113 R   15 SB
5.  Jason Giambi, DH:     .252  37 HR  113 RBI    92 R     2 SB
6.  Gary Sheffield, 1B:    .300  35 HR   120 RBI  100 R   10 SB (hurt, but typical #s)
7.  Hideki Matsui, LF:     .305  25 HR   115 RBI  105 R    2 SB (hurt, but typical #s)
8.  Jorge Posada, C:      .276  22 HR     91 RBI   64 R     2 SB
9.  Robinson Cano, 2B:  .341  15 HR     78 RBI   61 R     4 SB

I heard the Twins owner was mouthing off saying that he "hopes" the Twins meet the Yankees in the 1st round because he "knows the Twins can beat them".

He's out of his ******* mind.  On two counts.  For starters, the Yankees are going to thrash his team.  Secondly, you're always eliminated in the first round.  So you hope for Oakland.  Not the Yankees.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 1, 2006, 10:16 PM
75% chance as of right now that the Yankees and Twins will meet in the first round. 

See you in the second round, assuming the Tigers don't give you any trouble.   ;)

And big thanks to KC for the assist!   :P

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 2, 2006, 01:44 AM
Well, let's just give this a shot and see how close I can get to predicting this outcome:

AL Division Series

Yankees over Tigers in 4 games

Twins over Athletics in 5 games



NL Division Series

Cardinals over Padres in 4 games

Mets over Dodgers in 4 games



ALCS

Yankees over Twins in 5 games


NLCS

Mets over Cardinals in 6 games


World Series

Yankees over Mets in 5 games


(http://www.ultimateyankees.com/Yankees_Win_Game_One_jpg.jpg)

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2006, 04:30 PM
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20061003/capt.ed2fb120c40c4d219fd442662b58389c.athletics_twins_baseball_mnah103.jpg)

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 3, 2006, 04:36 PM
Its not like Santana had a bad game...Zito was just that much more phenomenal. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2006, 04:36 PM
I know, it's just that Johan Santana is lights out all year long, yet can always be seen crying in the first round of the playoffs.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2006, 04:42 PM
Santana was fine, this was the problem...

0-for-3 = Mauer
1-for-4 = Cuddyer (and that hit was in the 9th)
0-for-4 = Morneau
0-for-4 = Hunter

That's not what you like to see from your 3-4-5-6 hitters.   :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2006, 04:48 PM
The A's have a history of winning the first 2 games of the first round, then dropping the next 3.

Both the Red Sox and the Yankees have done that in the past 2 years.  Wouldn't be shocked if the Twins did too.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 3, 2006, 08:03 PM
No one else wants to try their hand at mapping out the outcome of the playoffs?


They just scanned the Tigers dugout on FOX at the start of this game, and honestly, they all already look beaten to me.  Glassy eyes and looks all around.  I think they felt beat as soon as they failed to win the division and found out they got the Yankees round 1.  Tigers have lost 31 of their last 50 or something close to that.


The Yankees are going to thrash these punks.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on October 4, 2006, 08:32 AM
I meant to do this yesterday:

AL Division Series

Yankees over Tigers in 4 games

Twins over A's in 5 games



NL Division Series

Padres over Cardinals in 5 games

Mets over Dodgers in 5 games



ALCS

Twins over Yankees in 6 games


NLCS

Padres over Mets in 7 games


World Series

Twins over Padres in 6 games
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 09:23 AM



World Series

Twins over Padres in 6 games

Wow, Mets and Yanks eliminated and Padres in the Series.  That's the first I've seen of it's kind.  Interesting.  What's the rationale there?  How's the Yankee offense juggernaut gonna be knocked out?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2006, 09:26 AM



World Series

Twins over Padres in 6 games

Wow, Mets and Yanks eliminated and Padres in the Series.  That's the first I've seen of it's kind.  Interesting.  What's the rationale there?  How's the Yankee offense juggernaut gonna be knocked out?
Maybe the same way it has the last 6 years...****** pitching
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 09:51 AM
Their offense is absolutely breathtaking.  They were first in the major leagues with 5.7 runs/game.  And that was without Sheffield and Matsui.

Our #9 hitter finished 3rd in the AL batting race.

Our top 3 pitchers are Wang (19 wins) Mussina (15 wins) and Johnson (17 wins).

Our closer is the best in the history of baseball.

There are no problems.  We're gonna steamroll to a championship, definitely the overwhelming favorite.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 09:52 AM

Maybe the same way it has the last 6 years...****** pitching

And Scott you should post your prediction here so we have something to hold you accountable for  :)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 4, 2006, 10:26 AM
No one else wants to try their hand at mapping out the outcome of the playoffs?

AL Division Series
Yankees over Tigers in 3 games
Twins over Athletics in 5 games


NL Division Series
Cardinals over Padres in 4 games
Mets over Dodgers in 5 games


ALCS
Yankees over Twins in 7 games


NLCS
Cardinals over Mets in 6 games  (I might have stuck with the Mets, but if El Duque is hurt now too... ?)


World Series
Yankees over Cardinals in 6 games



As much as it pains me to pick the Yankees, I think it's just too much offense for Bonser/Silva/Garza to handle (especially after seeing Jeter et al light up Bonderman last night).  Santana should be fine for 2 starts and Radke can manage a win, but that's probably only enough to force a game 7 (and probably some wishful thinking as well).   :-\

Still going to root for my squad to the bitter end though...  ;)



Our top 3 pitchers are Wang (19 wins) Mussina (15 wins) and Johnson (17 wins).

It really says something about a team's offense when your staff looks like this...

Wang (19 wins) - 3.63 ERA
Johnson (17 wins) - 5.00 ERA
Mussina (15 wins) - 3.51 ERA

- Wang's ERA ia almost a whole run higher than Santana, the other 19 game winner.
- Randy Johnson: 5.00 ERA and still won 17 games?  Guys with 5+ ERA usually end up with only 10-12 wins.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2006, 10:38 AM
ALDS

Yankees over Tigers in 3
Twins over A's in 5

ALCS

Yankees over Twins in 5

NLDS

Dodgers over Mets in 4
Cardinals over Padres in 4

NLCS

Dodgers over Cardinals in 6

World Series

Yankees over Dodgers in 5

As I said earlier, you have a $200 million payroll you should win each and every year and not even be a contest, I hope to hell they don't (and again the pitching would be their downfall)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: stormie on October 4, 2006, 10:55 AM
For me, I just have this feeling that the WS will be a rematch of '88.

Oakland and LA.

But this time, the A's will win. Sure, on paper it seems like NY should easily win it all, but history has shown that the best team doesn't always win.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 11:07 AM


As much as it pains me to pick the Yankees, I think it's just too much offense for Bonser/Silva/Garza to handle (especially after seeing Jeter et al light up Bonderman last night). 


I agree, the Yankees are the AL all star team.  Last night, it was Nate Robertson though, a leftie.  Bonderman's pitching later in the series if the Tigers can win a game I think.  Leyland chose Robertson over Bonderman because the Yanks have a slew of lefties in their lineup Damon, Abreu, Giambi, Cano, Matsui.  Roberston throws to the tune of a .150 OBA against lefties.  But even at that, the righties in our lineup are total nightmares for pitchers too, ARod, Sheff, Jeter, Posada (switch).  So, anyhow, that was the rationale to use Robertson game 1.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 4, 2006, 11:27 AM
Last night, it was Nate Robertson though, a leftie. 

D'oh - typo!  I knew that...  chalk it up to lack of sleep. :-[
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on October 4, 2006, 01:31 PM
Santana was fine, this was the problem...

0-for-3 = Mauer
1-for-4 = Cuddyer (and that hit was in the 9th)
0-for-4 = Morneau
0-for-4 = Hunter

That's not what you like to see from your 3-4-5-6 hitters.   :'(

Having had Morneau and Hunter on my team for the stretch run in the playoffs, this isn't that surprising.  They did just well enough to beat out Detroit with help from KC.  I'm not optimistic and I am a Twins fan. 

I see Rodriguez' woes continue in the playoffs.  Any thoughts of him being moved in the offseason? 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 02:44 PM


I see Rodriguez' woes continue in the playoffs.  Any thoughts of him being moved in the offseason? 
 

The talk here in NY is that ARod could be dealt under this specific list of conditions:

1.  The Yankees do not win the World Series.   We all think it is a complete slam dunk for us this season.

2.  In the course of not winning the WS, ARod hits .200 or less.

3.  Given 1 and 2, ARod is under so much distress from the NY fans and media, he waves his no trade clause, and leaves.

As a Yankee fan, I would love to see ARod dealt for a starting pitcher of the Ben Sheets/Jason Schmidt/Barry Zito caliber.  I'm not thrilled about Zito, but the other 2 would be great in a 1 for 1 swap for ARod.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2006, 02:48 PM


I see Rodriguez' woes continue in the playoffs.  Any thoughts of him being moved in the offseason? 
 

The talk here in NY is that ARod could be dealt under this specific list of conditions:

1.  The Yankees do not win the World Series.   We all think it is a complete slam dunk for us this season.

2.  In the course of not winning the WS, ARod hits .200 or less.

3.  Given 1 and 2, ARod is under so much distress from the NY fans and media, he waves his no trade clause, and leaves.

As a Yankee fan, I would love to see ARod dealt for a starting pitcher of the Ben Sheets/Jason Schmidt/Barry Zito caliber.  I'm not thrilled about Zito, but the other 2 would be great in a 1 for 1 swap for ARod.


Why would they want Sheets?  He's hurt almost as much as Prior or Wood
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on October 4, 2006, 03:07 PM
Schmidt and Zito are free agents so I don't think anyone is trading for them.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 03:26 PM
Schmidt and Zito are free agents so I don't think anyone is trading for them.

This is true, they may sign one of them, and trade ARod for a player of that caliber as well, only if they don't win the WS.

Sheets really hasn't been nearly as hurt as Wood and Prior.  In the past 3 years, he has averaged 24 starts.

This season, he has 116 K's in 106 IP, a 3.82 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP. 

If we don't win the WS, honestly, we're gonna have to ship ARod out of here because he just cannot handle the pressure of NY.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 03:32 PM
The Texas Rangers fired Buck Showalter today.  LOL.  Are they joking or what?  That GM needs to go if you ask me, the general management is the problem and has been for some time.  They need to stop giving 12 million dollar contracts to starting pitchers like Chan Ho Park and Kevin Millwood and get some real pitching in there.  They've always had the offense.  And who let Chris Young go?  Buck Showalter?  I think not. 

Totally laughable.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 03:35 PM
Bonser was actually decent but middle relief just lost a 2nd ALDS game for the Twins I do believe.

EDIT:  Done.  Twins in the hole 0-2, and facing elimination Friday.  Santana won't have a chance to save them unless they win Friday.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: john todd on October 4, 2006, 05:11 PM
The Texas Rangers fired Buck Showalter today.  LOL.  Are they joking or what?  That GM needs to go if you ask me, the general management is the problem and has been for some time.  They need to stop giving 12 million dollar contracts to starting pitchers like Chan Ho Park and Kevin Millwood and get some real pitching in there.  They've always had the offense.  And who let Chris Young go?  Buck Showalter?  I think not. 

Totally laughable.

the GM for the rangers just started last year i think.  the millwood deal was kinda bad, but everything else is someone else's fault.  i kinda though buck got a bad deal too, but i think 4 years is a pretty long time in baseball to keep a managers job and never do better than 3rd place.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 07:51 PM


the GM for the rangers just started last year i think.  the millwood deal was kinda bad, but everything else is someone else's fault. 

Yes, the general management, John Hart the past few years and more recently this year the 28 year old Jon Daniels*, have not provided a team capable of winning that division.  Buck can only work with the players that the general management puts on the field. 

In other words, I don't think Joe Torre or Bobby Cox could have won with that Rangers team.  There's no freakin' starting pitching, what the hell was Buck supposed to do? 

The only good starter they've brought up through the farm in the past few years was Chris Young, and they gave up on him and let him go.

*(http://espn-ak.starwave.com/media/mlb/2005/1004/photo/a_daniels_195.jpg)

John Hart (old) and Jon Daniels (new)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 4, 2006, 08:55 PM
Because of the rain situation at Yankee Stadium tonight, Ivan Rodriguez may have an extra day to prepare for his new job, as the management of Sea World is replacing the algae cleaners inside their tanks with human workers:

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Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: john todd on October 4, 2006, 10:42 PM
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The only good starter they've brought up through the farm in the past few years was Chris Young, and they gave up on him and let him go.


i think they got eaton and otska in the trade for young.  otska was a pretty reliable closer, but eaton didn't really pan out.  if the trade had worked it would have been a pretty good 2 for 1, but of course its the rangers, so it didn't work out.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 5, 2006, 06:02 PM
Where are you Dressel?  No comments on the Yanks?? WTF?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 5, 2006, 07:14 PM
Where are you Dressel?  No comments on the Yanks?? WTF?

Um, they lost a game.  Big whoop.  Probably will be the only one of the series.  If they drop a second game, you'll see me nervous.  I wrote this on October 2nd for a reason:

Well, let's just give this a shot and see how close I can get to predicting this outcome:

AL Division Series

Yankees over Tigers in 4 games


If it's a commentary you're looking for, I can whip one up right quick about the elimination game that the Twins are staring down the barrel of tomorrow.   I wouldn't be happy about facing Danny Haren, I'll tell you that much.  And if the Twins do manage to win a game, Rich Harden is comin' atcha game 4 with Zito backing him up.

Good luck.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on October 6, 2006, 07:43 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 6, 2006, 08:55 PM
Where are you Dressel?  No comments on the Yanks?? WTF?

Hey, I'm right here.


(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:nNfc1YW_l8lRdM:http://www.celebopedia.com/minnesota-twins/images/minnesota-twins.jpg) (http://sneakykitchen.com/fullerbrush/images/household_broom.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2006, 10:15 PM
Shouldn't you be a little more worried about the Yankees being down 4-0 5-0 6-0 in the 7th with Randy Johnson looking like he's about 100 years old, than the Twins?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 6, 2006, 10:59 PM
Well, I guess our weaknesses finally caught up with us.

I would have loved to see a post-season with Santana, a health Liriano, and a healthy Radke, but what can you do?

Our hot bats got us into the Central Division title, and then unforunately, the lack of those same hot bats killed us.   :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 6, 2006, 11:58 PM
Shouldn't you be a little more worried about the Yankees being down 4-0 5-0 6-0 in the 7th with Randy Johnson looking like he's about 100 years old, than the Twins?

Humph.  **** look at that.  Yeah I guess I probably should have been.  Guess we're gonna have to do this the hard way and go through Bonderman tomorrow before we torch Robertson again in Game 5, and get started on the A's.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2006, 06:16 PM
Hey...the Yanks got a hit!  Whew
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 7, 2006, 06:25 PM
Hey...the Yanks got a hit!  Whew

So many heads are going to roll in New York it's going to look like a damn bowling alley.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 7, 2006, 07:28 PM
Quoted for posterity (and hilarity):

Originally posted by Dressel Rebel:

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But still and all, we don't need ARod.  We're winning the World Series this year with or without him hitting.

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I do think ARod's numbers warrant him being taken in the 2nd half of the Round One still:

.284   34 HR   117 RBI   108  Runs   14  SB

Also, let's not forget that he is the reigning AL MVP.  When the Yankees win the World Series a month from now as well, I think he'll be relaxed and put up slightly better numbers.  Hell, he'll have an MVP and a Championship, what else do the fans want?

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It all depends who the Mets run into in the post-season.  If they run into the Astros and have to face Clemens-Oswalt-Pettitte, the Mets can forget about the World Series.  Nobody else is going to stop them, in my opinion.  That is, until they meet the Yankees in the World Series and get stomped.

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No one else wants to try their hand at mapping out the outcome of the playoffs?


They just scanned the Tigers dugout on FOX at the start of this game, and honestly, they all already look beaten to me.  Glassy eyes and looks all around.  I think they felt beat as soon as they failed to win the division and found out they got the Yankees round 1.  Tigers have lost 31 of their last 50 or something close to that.


The Yankees are going to thrash these punks.

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Wow, Mets and Yanks eliminated and Padres in the Series.  That's the first I've seen of it's kind.  Interesting.  What's the rationale there?  How's the Yankee offense juggernaut gonna be knocked out?

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Their offense is absolutely breathtaking.  They were first in the major leagues with 5.7 runs/game.  And that was without  Sheffield and Matsui.

Our #9 hitter finished 3rd in the AL batting race.

Our top 3 pitchers are Wang (19 wins) Mussina (15 wins) and Johnson (17 wins).

Our closer is the best in the history of baseball.

There are no problems.  We're gonna steamroll to a championship, definitely the overwhelming favorite.

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Um, they lost a game.  Big whoop.  Probably will be the only one of the series.  If they drop a second game, you'll see me nervous.

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Guess we're gonna have to do this the hard way and go through Bonderman tomorrow before we torch Robertson again in Game 5, and get started on the A's.

And here's the sig, which is now mysteriously MIA:

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Murderer's Row.  And Cano.

11  10  9  8  7  6  5  4  3  2  1  New York Yankees win their 27th World Series Championship
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: jadesfire on October 7, 2006, 07:47 PM
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Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2006, 07:54 PM
My team wasn't even supposed to be in the post season and the only reason they were was because of stellar pitching down the stretch.  What worried me is #1 Liriano was out and #2 that the last three weeks of the season their bats were MIA...still I was pleased they at least made it to the post season...

But this...this is just priceless.  The highest payroll in baseball could not buy another championship yet again.  These were the 2nd coming of murderers row.  Wow...they won nothing yet again.  I love it...

(http://www.oldmencrying.com/images/steinbrenner2.jpeg)
Don't Cry George, that $200 Million got you just as far as the Twins!

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25786401.jpg)
Joe, Joe, Joe...so many players, so few postseason wins in the last 6 years

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25786399.jpg)
The highest paid #8 hitter in history!

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25786346.jpg)
Still better than Brett "The Wife Beater" Myers

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25786315.jpg)
Cory Lidle doesn't like what he smells coming from the Yankees dugout

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25785300.jpg)
Hideki is wondering how they made it to the postseason without him

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25773675.jpg)
Jeter tries to comfort Randy's bad tummy yesterday (too many hot wings the night before)

(http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2006-10/25776086.jpg)
"Do you know where I can get some steroids?"
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on October 7, 2006, 09:55 PM
Thank you, Matt.  You saved me a lot of work.  :)

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 7, 2006, 11:09 PM
The highest payroll in baseball could not buy another championship yet again.

Hey, hey, hey, now!  It bought a ninth-consecutive AL East championship, buddy, and that's nothing to sneeze at!
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2006, 11:50 PM
The highest payroll in baseball could not buy another championship yet again.

Hey, hey, hey, now!  It bought a ninth-consecutive AL East championship, buddy, and that's nothing to sneeze at!
You have me in a box on this one. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on October 8, 2006, 08:00 AM
First off, congrats to the Tigers.  Boy, they sure did have that look of terror in their eyes.  I'm amazed they even won one game against the greatest offensive line up the likes of which no one has ever seen. ::)  Looks to be a great ALCS that will probably go 7 games.  Two very evenly matched teams.

And now back to your regularly scheduled Yankee bashing:

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(http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/577-1008bigback.jpg)(http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/113-1008bigfront.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 8, 2006, 10:12 AM
Name:     Dressel Rebel
Posts:    2902 (2.342 per day)
Position:    Jedi Council
Date Registered:    May 18, 2003, 06:40 AM
Last Active:    October 7, 2006, 06:00 PM

Where you at, Dressel?

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Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 8, 2006, 11:27 AM
Name:     Dressel Rebel
Posts:    2902 (2.342 per day)
Position:    Jedi Council
Date Registered:    May 18, 2003, 06:40 AM
Last Active:    October 7, 2006, 06:00 PM

Where you at, Dressel?

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Wow that pretty easy for someone who never comes out and declares his allegiance to a team.  In fact, I don't think I've seen you be a fan of any team in any of the 4 sports.  Rangers fans, Twins fans, Red Sox fans, they can come in here and dish out the dirt, because I've slung a ton of mud their way too (even though I let the Sox fans off easy this year).

But seriously Matt, if you're not gonna pick a team, then instead of coming in here and bashing Yankee fans, you should just shut up.

Everyone else, it's open season.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 8, 2006, 01:33 PM
Wow that pretty easy for someone who never comes out and declares his allegiance to a team.  In fact, I don't think I've seen you be a fan of any team in any of the 4 sports.  Rangers fans, Twins fans, Red Sox fans, they can come in here and dish out the dirt, because I've slung a ton of mud their way too (even though I let the Sox fans off easy this year).

But seriously Matt, if you're not gonna pick a team, then instead of coming in here and bashing Yankee fans, you should just shut up.

Well, that's not a very nice way to start your offseason, is it? 

Not bashing Yankee fans collectively--just you, 'cause you're a pompous blowhard who can't go three posts around here without mentioning either how great the Yankees are, or how great you are at fantasy sports, and I think that, coupled with "the greatest team in baseball history" being knocked out of the first round of the playoffs, is comedy gold. 

Like I've mentioned before, I'm a casual sports fan, and you're right--I don't have too many allegiances to any teams, at least in the pros, anyway.  I much prefer college football and basketball to their pro counterparts, and I root for OU (who, yes, got their asses kicked yesterday) and, to a lesser extent, OSU (and they lost, too).  As for baseball, I was a Mets fan twenty years ago, but when they broke up, I pretty much stopped following any certain team.  Around here, our minor league team is a farm club for the Rangers, who are also our closest MLB team, proximity-wise, but I've always hated the Rangers, so I don't really root for anybody--just good baseball, although there are certain players and teams I like more than others.  (I'm assuming the fourth sport you're referring to is hockey, which I couldn't care less about.)

So for me, when I'm watching a game and don't care one way or another about either team, I root for the underdog.  And there hasn't been as big an underdog as the Tigers in recent memory.  So their win yesterday, combined with all your (now-meaningless) season-long loudmouth smack talk, well,  it was like a gift from God.

Time to eat your **** politely, "Dressel."  Don't like it?  Too bad.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 8, 2006, 01:39 PM
I don't really root for anybody

Then you have nothing to say.

You're a troll in every other thread, and you're a troll here.  Why are you in here then?  You don't even have a team.  You're sitting up there in an ivory tower casting stones at whoever you want, and you don't even root for a team.  That's the sports fan's equivalent of a coward.  I'm supposed to sit here and believe that you watch MLB games and don't have a favorite team  ::)

Sure thing Matt.  We all believe you.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JediMAC on October 8, 2006, 02:47 PM
Yeah, amusing watching an all-star lineup with a $200 million payroll get bounced by an overachieving buncha' no-namers.  Heh.

As for SoCal, another bust of a year.  Dodgers, as expected, got swept right outta the first round once again.  Yawn.  We were actually trying to get tickets to the game yesterday, but the cheapest seats left were $150 each, so we passed.  Thank God.  So that keeps our playoff victory total at a whopping one game in the past 18 years.  Freakin' dynasty we are!

Halos came up just short this year, after putting together a great second half.  If we'd had Colon (last year's Cy Young winner) around this season, that might've made the difference.  Though the A's were playing out of their gourdes all season long, which I still can't really understand.  I guess the Twins fans can attest to that as well now, after that surprising series sweep.  Crazy watching the Twins come all the way back to win that division though, so kudos for that, at least.

Buncha ****** series so far in the playoffs, and I rather expect the Padres to fall to the cards in the next game as well.  Not terribly interested in any of the remaining teams really, but I guess it'd be the most exciting to watch the Tigers inexplicably win it all.  We'll see...

Please, carry on with the Yanks bickering now.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 8, 2006, 02:58 PM
Then you have nothing to say.

You're a troll in every other thread, and you're a troll here.  Why are you in here then?  You don't even have a team.  You're sitting up there in an ivory tower casting stones at whoever you want, and you don't even root for a team.  That's the sports fan's equivalent of a coward.  I'm supposed to sit here and believe that you watch MLB games and don't have a favorite team  ::)

Sure thing Matt.  We all believe you.

Yep, I don't have a favorite team.  What's so hard to believe about that?  Like I said, around here, the Rangers are kind of the adopted favorite team, due to proximity and the farm team, but I've never cared much for them.  The Cards are another popular team, and I like them okay, and I like to watch Pujols.  The Cubs and the Braves are other local favorites--which I guess is because they're on TV all the time with WGN and TBS or TNT or whatever it is.  Never cared much for the Cubs, and have always hated the Braves.  And believe it or not, I don't hate the Yanks--it's their arrogant fans like yourself that I can't stand. 

No, I'm just a fan of the game in general.  I don't have to have a "favorite team" to enjoy watching the game of baseball, and to post in this thread, thank you very much.

As far as the rest of the playoffs go, I'll be rooting for the Tigers in the AL, and I don't know who in the NL.  Cards/Pads/Mets--I don't really care, although I guess it'd be fun to see Pujols some more.  But, since I was a Mets fan back in the day, I'd kind of like to see them do well, too.  But I guess I'll probably be rooting for the Tigers to win it all, since I think that would make for the most-interesting story, after all those years of ineptitude, and also because they defeated the greatest team of baseball players ever assembled in the history of the game.  (http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif)

But, above all else, no matter who wins, I'd just like to see good baseball.  Shouldn't be a problem, now that ARod's on vacation.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 8, 2006, 03:00 PM

Please, carry on with the Yanks bickering now.

It's not really "Yankees bickering".  I mean, obviously I'm not in a great mood.  But for all that just happened with the Yankees colossal collapse, when Jeff, or Scott, or JohnH, or Mikey D comes in here and really blast me and Yankees fans with both barrels, that's fine.  I really don't have any problem with that, because they all have a target on their chest as well with the Twins, and Rangers, and Red Sox.  They have business saying something.  

But for Virex to come in here, not even having a baseball team, targeting me in particular, it is 100% trolling and nothing more.  He's checking up on when I signed in.  He took my signature and put it in his signature.  He's just pure baiting me.  And I can't be surprised really seeing as how I spent 3 minutes going through his recent posts and saw him attacking CHEWIE, Kevin, Jaye, Greg, some other less frequent posters, and now myself.  That's his only interest.  He could care less about baseball.

And I'm not even crying about Virex.  I'm not even surprised the staff watches him do it, that's customary around here.  I just think he should shut the **** up.

My next baseball post will be in April.

EDIT:  Bah, with all the Yankees moves that are going to happen in the offseason, sometime this winter  ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 8, 2006, 03:09 PM
But for Virex to come in here, not even having a baseball team, targeting me in particular, it is 100% trolling and nothing more.  He's checking up on when I signed in.  He took my signature and put it in his signature.  He's just pure baiting me.  And I can't be surprised really seeing as how I spent 3 minutes going through his recent posts and saw him attacking CHEWIE, Kevin, Jaye, Greg, some other less frequent posters, and now myself.  That's his only interest.  He could care less about baseball.

And I'm not even crying about Virex.  I'm not even surprised the staff watches him do it, that's customary around here.  I just think he should shut the **** up.

I need a picture of a crying baby, stat!  Here, Drebbel, I think you've used this one before:

(http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=spilled+milk/v=2/SID=e/TID=I055_76/l=IVI/SIG=12ulq0qtt/EXP=1129417531/*-http%3A//www.surcess.com/2003/fun%20with%20visitors/Crying_over_spilled_milk.jpg)

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on October 8, 2006, 03:21 PM
(I'm assuming the fourth sport you're referring to is hockey, which I couldn't care less about.)


 >:( >:(

Oh wait, you're not in North Dakota/Minnesota/Wisconsin/Michigan.  You're excused.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Matt on October 8, 2006, 03:57 PM
And I can't be surprised really seeing as how I spent 3 minutes going through his recent posts and saw him attacking CHEWIE, Kevin, Jaye, Greg, some other less frequent posters, and now myself.  That's his only interest.

Just a minor nitpick, if I may.  Yes, I have had run-ins with those folks in the past, but CHEWLIE hasn't posted here in months, Greggers has never posted here at all (to my knowledge), Bertha showed up for the first time in months the other day, quoted one of my posts, and left just as soon as she arrived, like the idiotic, hit-and-run troll she is, and I have no idea who Kevin is.

(Okay, that's a lie, I do know who Kevin is, but haven't had any dealings with him recently, either, that I know of.)

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He could care less about baseball.

The correct way to say that would be "couldn't care less."  "Could care less" implies that there is still some leeway for me not to care about baseball. 

But that's a moot point, because I do care about baseball.  I played it for several years (and terribly miss playing), and enjoy watching it, both in person and on TV, and I especially look forward to all the post-season stuff.  I just don't feel the need to post about it all over the place like a rabid, testosterone-overloaded ******* all the time.



Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 9, 2006, 11:42 AM
I wish I had some witty retort about the Yankees to add, but I don't because it looks like it's all been said already.

Just consider me among those who are happy that they are dead too... makes the Twins loss a little more tolerable to know that the Yankees are out as well.   ;D

It will be interesting to see which heads roll for this latest Yankee implosion. Rumors are already swirling with Pinella possibly replacing Torre...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: nitro on October 9, 2006, 11:56 AM
I don't even think the Yankees would've even been in the playoffs had the Sox looked like a MASH unit in the second half of the year. Sox had to rely on almost all rookies and scraps to get the job done in the second half. Almost every player went down with an injury at one point...between David Ortiz's irregular heartbeat and pitcher Jon Lester fighting cancer, there isn't one team in the league that could've fought through that...Yankees included. The problem is that the injuries mounted immediately after the trade deadline where Varitek and Nixon where the first to fall to the injury bug and everything got worse from there...we also saw injuries to Wily Mo, Coco, Manny, Papelbon, Wakefield, Timlin, Loretta, Gonzalez, Lowell, Youk, etc...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 10, 2006, 03:24 PM
Add me to the list of overjoyed over latest Yankees' recurring playoff exit.
My team sucks [Giants] and well, I've heard all the negatives about them/world series wins 0, but they are still my hometown team and I stand by 'em. I'm sick of the Yankees. Get into an argument with most Yankee fans and the first time you jeer them they wanna know who your team is, next they shallowly argue about how many World series your team won ect ::). Sickening..as if all cities/owners can pay that much for a golden team from year to year ::). It seems like the baseball gods are giving payback to them in some way for succeeding in buying out all the big name players consistently over the years? It seems devilshly funny to me annually how you see the Yankees fan drool over new announced 'buy-in' talent and the end year result is early playoff exit :D.

I felt this year was a good one but my favorite was the Red Sox down 0-3 and winning it then the world series too what an ultimate slap.

Anyway, I'm happy about it this weekend's result. What was funnier was ESPN's tough poll about which player you would rather have on your team AROD or TO?


The DS 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: jadesfire on October 12, 2006, 01:53 AM
I am still pumped over the Tigers win again tonight.  Now I wish I hadn't given up my seat to the game on Friday to my son  :'(.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on October 20, 2006, 12:05 AM
So, the Cards and Tigers in the World Series.  I was close.   :-X

How do you Cub fans feel about the Pinella appointment?  He's always been one of my favorite managers, and I think he could be the guy to get in there and chew some asses into gear.

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: P-Siddy on October 20, 2006, 10:52 AM
Go Cards!! Hopefully it'll be a better WS than the last one they were in... that was almost "scripted" for the BoSox.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2006, 11:40 PM
Congrats to the Cardinals and their fans... consider this your cosmic reward for getting your asses kicked by the Red Sox.   :P

And to the Tiger fans...  wish I could feel sorry for you, but I just can't.   :D
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: CloneCommander1 on October 28, 2006, 12:00 AM
Yes, we did get our asses kicked by the Sox.  But anyway, I couldn't be happier for the Cards, and Eckstein really deserved that MVP. 
WAY TO GO CARDS!
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on October 28, 2006, 02:06 AM
Senior circuit?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 28, 2006, 08:00 AM
Holy crap the World Series is over?  I didn't even know Game 3 was played yet.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 28, 2006, 08:04 AM
Humph.  So it is!

This might be the luckiest son of a bitch ever in the sport.  Jeff Weaver got thrown off the Angels and exiled to the .500 Cardinals to make room for his younger brother, and here, have a World Series Championship while you're at it:

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/ef/full.getty-72218937cc067_world_series__1_09_17_am.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2006, 11:30 AM
Holy crap the World Series is over?  I didn't even know Game 3 was played yet.

You must not be much of a baseball fan.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 28, 2006, 01:47 PM
Not during Yankees offseason.  It's getting hard in season, as well.

Also in my defense, this was the lowest ratings World Series in the history of MLB on television.  That goes a long way in explaining my apathy.  Even if I weren't a Yankee fan.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2006, 02:07 PM
Congratulations to the most recent non-Yankee World Series winning team (Cardinals). Personally, I care little for the winning team EXCEPT for the small part that ..at least it's not a WS win paid for by the Yankees..(still). For that I congratulate the winner! ;D

My next baseball post will be in April.

EDIT:  Bah, with all the Yankees moves that are going to happen in the offseason, sometime this winter  ;)

So, the Yankees made a move already or....a reneg on that post since it's not winter yet?
Was really hoping for alot of non-Yankee talk in here for awhile..oh well, I guess it wasn't a promise statement :(.

Is there more than 1 Yankees fan in here(JD) or only 1 that posts?



The tigers seemed to go flat after their convincing last two round knockouts..hmph :-\
As he's always been that Eckstein was a real postseason terror to the opponent.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 30, 2006, 02:17 PM
Congratulations to the most recent non-Yankee World Series winning team (Cardinals). Personally, I care little for the winning team EXCEPT for the small part that ..at least it's not a WS win paid for by the Yankees..(still).


Oh stick a sock in it.


So, the Yankees made a move already or....a reneg on that post since it's not winter yet?

Yes they picked up Gary Sheffield's option, brought Torre back, and said no-go on ARod trades.

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2006, 02:23 PM
Also in my defense, this was the lowest ratings World Series in the history of MLB on television. 

Yeah, with two upper-midwest teams I guess I expected the low ratings.   Without a team from either coast, it was going to be hard to generate any kind of ratings.

I wonder what the worst possible WS match-up would be for national ratings?

When teams are from the same region (on the coasts), you know that people will watch for the uniqueness of seeing NY vs. NY or Oakland vs. San Fran.  But other "super-regional" series seem like they'd do awful ratings wise...

Would folks on the East Coast stay up late for Twins vs. Brewers?
Would folks west of the Mississippi care about Tampa Bay vs. Marlins?

 ???
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2006, 02:33 PM
Congratulations to the most recent non-Yankee World Series winning team (Cardinals). Personally, I care little for the winning team EXCEPT for the small part that ..at least it's not a WS win paid for by the Yankees..(still).


Oh stick a sock in it.

So, the Yankees made a move already or....a reneg on that post since it's not winter yet?

Yes they picked up Gary Sheffield's option, brought Torre back, and said no-go on ARod trades.

LOL...is that what you say when you have nothing to say..heh? :'( Where's that crying over spilt milk pic again?

I don't really consider those as 'moves' either...nobody 'moved' and I don't see any new players added (bought off) either. Also noted your recent posts have nothing to do with moves rather crying downplaying a WS value because...? your team wasn't in it..?
regardless of ratings?



I agree with Jeff, as I recall ratings were high for the 'earthquake series' (the A's sweep over Giants) so I believe the interest factor does go up when cross town rivals face each other.



























 .

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 30, 2006, 02:53 PM
Here you are Slothus after the World Series coming in here saying "Oh thank God Dressel's favorite team didn't win!"  Get a life dude, they got eliminated 3 weeks ago.

Screw your crappy team that probably hasn't won in 50 years or whoever the hell you root for.  How 'bout that?

Give it up already.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2006, 03:12 PM
HeHeh funny replies

....screw you ect :'( ..LOL!

Yes, it's true my team has NEVER won and I don't cry about it either. I'm also..not a 'sore winner' either- when any of my favorite teams win anything. Being a sore loser sucks though..oh wait? Do I hear that now? LOL

"Oh thank God Dressel's favorite team didn't win!"

and...
Please don't make a religious argument out of this I know your above that, thanks.

For your info....I've been a Yankees hater long before I knew you even existed as a speck of dust communicating in the internet so please refrain from making this just about you :'(.

#1 hated teams list
Lakers
Cowboys
Yankees

The DS
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 30, 2006, 04:48 PM
You know I'm sure myself along with the rest of the forum would rather see you trolling about the Yankees, than hear your opinions on why on Steve Irwin "deserved to die" and why you're "pleased" that Matt Hasselbeck is in pain and unable to walk - so maybe you ought to just keep trashing the Yankees and trolling to occupy your time, rather than us having to suffer through any more of your low class banter that's even worse than what I have to deal with here.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2006, 11:07 PM
Funny, you're the only soul that keeps reminding me what I've said in other threads(like I could forget what I've said ::)) Is that your fall back cue? Since I have only mentioned and I'll state legitimately in a MLB thread how much I hate the Yankees and on the flip side your  'classy' responses..

your low class banter

another..

Get a life dude
Screw your crappy team

and yet another..

Oh stick a sock in it.

Anyway based on the insulting replies I would guess you are the troll here. 'Honey, somebody get that baby a bottle already' ..quit crying, your team lost  now take it like I do annually--
Yes, it's true my team has NEVER won and I don't cry about it either.


Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on November 10, 2006, 09:13 PM
they picked up Gary Sheffield's option

Didn't last long...

Tigers deal three pitchers to Yankees for Sheffield (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2656847)

As a fan of a team that has to play the Tigers 19 times during the season, I can't say I'm too thrilled to see them getting better already in the off-season...  >:(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 10, 2006, 10:20 PM
My favorite Yankee is gone.

 :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 19, 2006, 03:21 PM
Oh boy Cubs fans, you got yourself Soriano for $17 million a year over 8 seasons.

You just need to get Prior or Wood or some other stud healthy behind Carlos Zambrano and I think you got something here....

Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on November 19, 2006, 11:03 PM
Oh boy Cubs fans, you got yourself Soriano for $17 million a year over 8 seasons.

You just need to get Prior or Wood or some other stud healthy behind Carlos Zambrano and I think you got something here....


The Twins flirted twice with dealing for Soriano and now they didn't sign him...he's probably in the top 10 in the majors and I'd of loved to have seen him here
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Scott on November 21, 2006, 04:52 PM
(http://www.startribune.com/media/2006/08/15/22/2805851.standalone.jpg)(http://www.freewebs.com/twincities/presspics/032006/morneau_0323061.JPG)

How could a team have both the Cy Young and the MVP on their team and choke like they did in the playoffs.  I tell you what, the Detroit, Minnesota rivalry next year will be a fun one to watch.  The winner should be the favorite to win the World Series
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 21, 2006, 04:55 PM
Is Liriano going to be healthy for the start of the season?  I think he had Tommy John surgery, I heard that with that surgery players can come back in time for spring training, but it really takes a year or two before they regain their old form and velocity.

The Twins are good without Liriano.  But with him, well, that's Schilling/Johnson-esque from the '01 'Backs.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2006, 11:12 PM
Is Liriano going to be healthy for the start of the season? 

Yeah, he'll be back in early/late spring, but he won't really be the same pitcher (full strength) until later in the year.

Very cool for Morneau and cool to see Johan and Mauer getting votes too.   8) 

It really could have gone to Jeter as well, that wouldn't have bothered me as he pretty much kep the Yankees alive in the early spring.  Just glad to see a position player get it and see those DHers in the middle of the pack.   :P
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 28, 2006, 07:40 PM
Having already added Soriano, the Cubs have offered Jason Schmidt $15 million/year for 3 years.

Look out NL Central!
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on December 7, 2006, 01:41 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnL9KTeTJ2shIJ5ZCAOrmkIRvLYF?slug=ap-royals-meche&prov=ap&type=lgns

So the Royals got Meche.  I'm pleased he'll be joining the team, as I think the has a lot of talent and potential.  Not sure if he's worth $11M per year though...

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 7, 2006, 01:51 PM
Having already added Soriano, the Cubs have offered Jason Schmidt $15 million/year for 3 years.

Look out NL Central!

......But Jason signed with LA Dodgers(officially) today. Oh well more fodder to hate Dodgers with. The giants had seen an overall 3-4 MPH drop in velocity over the last couple seasons, coupled with increased losing percentage..it was time to let him go-I guess :-\. I'm sure though, as with many pro athletes who appear to be fading, he'll not-so miraculously rejuvenate his career elsewhere. The Giants have a lot of faith in their new guys Cain, Sanchez.

The DS
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Mikey D on December 7, 2006, 02:02 PM

 Not sure if he's worth $11M per year though...

John

There's a lot of overspending for players this off season - $70 million over 5 years for Drew, $40 million / 4 years for Lilly, etc.  It's not my money, but some of these contracts are nuts.  If Lilly and Meche are getting $10 million plus a year, what's Zito going to get?
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 7, 2006, 07:04 PM
If Lilly and Meche are getting $10 million plus a year, what's Zito going to get?

A throne, a septor, a crown, and a pure gold toilet seat.

And the fans will be getting a bigger bill for their tickets.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on December 7, 2006, 10:52 PM
A throne, a septor, a crown, and a pure gold toilet seat.

Think that gold toilet seat will have a Mets logo on it?


Meanwhile, the Twins are trying hard to close the deal... with Rondell White?   ::)

Give Mauer/Morneau/Santana a break and DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE already.   It's times like this that free agency frustrates me...
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Morgbug on December 7, 2006, 11:21 PM
I would agree.  I'll admit though that I don't understand the contract rules in baseball that well.  Why don't the Twinkies try and extend the contracts on those three (and Liriano) while they can?  I think that would be money much better spent in the long run.  I do understand that they may decline an extension, but they may not.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Jeff on December 8, 2006, 05:37 PM
Pettitte back in Pinstripes? (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2691380)

I wonder what DR has to say about that move...  ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2006, 05:40 PM
I am ecstatic.  And word is Rocket is coming with him.  That'd give us:

Clemens
Pettitte
Mussina
Wang
Isegawa

Randy Johnson can then be free to be an ******* in the dugout instead of on the mound.  Pettitte never should have been allowed to leave in the first place.  He was our stopper in the playoffs.  Need a win?  Put Pettitte out there.

I'm fairly certain that it'd take a miracle, bigger than the Tigers miracle, to knock the Yanks out of the playoffs with that rotation and offense. 
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 05:47 PM
come on Dress...

They have a miracle stacked team annually don't they? So what, like it's been alot of miracles over the years that they've been knocked out of the playoffs for awhile?

Don't tell me you have a sports almanac from the future like the 'back to the future' movies either :P
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: JohnH on December 8, 2006, 06:01 PM
I'm fairly certain that it'd take a miracle, bigger than the Tigers miracle, to knock the Yanks out of the playoffs with that rotation and offense.

(http://www.phparch.com/discuss/images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif)

Aaaaahhh, good stuff...it just never gets old.

John
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Dressel Rebel on December 8, 2006, 11:24 PM
come on Dress...

They have a miracle stacked team annually don't they? So what, like it's been alot of miracles over the years that they've been knocked out of the playoffs for awhile?

Don't tell me you have a sports almanac from the future like the 'back to the future' movies either :P

I will just say this.  The offense the past 5 years has been outstanding.  The only piece that they have been missing that they had in their most recent 4 championship stretch from '96-'00 has been pitching.

Now go ahead and look at that 5 man starting pitching rotation that I listed there.  Add that to Damon, Jeter, ARod, Abreu, Giambi, Matsui, Cano, Posada, Cabrera.  Rivera in the pen still.

I know some of you get a kick out of mocking my affinity for the Yanks pick, but they were still the favorite last year, and with the recent additions, in the correct areas this time, you know they're even stronger now.

They'll probably win it this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2006
Post by: Deanna Rash on December 8, 2006, 11:39 PM
 :PI haven't followed the Yanks since My favorite player retired(Paul O'Neill) He doesn't live to far from me.I was heartbroken when he left the Reds,but it was for the best.Now he coaches his son's team and plays alot of tennis