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Title: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on July 17, 2005, 10:51 PM
OK, first, what Battle happened on Tatooine? 

I remember a droid search and stuff, maybe the Docking Bay Escape?  Eh, anyway...

"Battle of Tatooine from Episode IV will include 7 figures"

I'll guess that the Sandtrooper that was shown is in this wave...  :P

Anyone want to start guessing?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 17, 2005, 11:21 PM
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'll get a Tatooine Luke. ;)

My "dream team":

New

--SA Tusken Raider
--Owen Lars
--Beru Lars with blue milk pitcher and cup
--SA Cantina Band Member

(runners-up: Garindan; Ponda Baba; Biggs Darklighter from deleted scenes ;D)

Repacks

--Commtech Jawa with Gonk droid
--Sandtrooper (POTJ repack with variant shoulder boards in orange, black, white, and gray)
--POTF2 Flashback Luke with floppy hat and binocs, and the Treadwell from Flashback Beru

(runners-up: Saga Camp Ambush Tusken Raider; POTJ BoShek; POTF2 Flashback C-3PO; BenKenobi sans brown cloak (POTJ/OTC) because he's a really good figure)

Deluxe, vehicles, critters:

--entirely new Jabba from Docking Bay 94 (based on 2004 DVD version)
--Bantha with Tusken Raider (POTF2 repack)
--Dewback with Sandtrooper (POTF2 repack)
--Ronto with Jawa (POTF2 repack)
--repacked Eopie with Qui-Gon or EpIII Obi-Wan (just because :P)
--POTF2 Cantina cardboard diorama
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 18, 2005, 12:51 AM
My predictions:

BATTLE OF TATOOINE (7 figures):

-Sandtrooper; POTJ Repack.
-Darth Vader; MOTDS Repack.
-Princess Leia; Commtech Repack.
-Captain Antilles; Saga Repack.
-Imperial Officer; POTJ Repack.
-Rebel Fleet Trooper; SA with blaster and removeable helmet. Head variants.
-Stormtrooper; Commtech repack.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 18, 2005, 01:55 AM
An undercover rebel operative has posted a large reward for any information linking Imperials with an attack on a Jawa Sandcrawler . Hem Dazon and Bom Vimdin respond and begin to salvage the wreckage. They come upon a pair of damaged droids, designations R5-D4 and CZ-3. Both droids confirm that it was indeed stormtroopers that attacked and destroyed the crawler. After a quick repair job, Dazon and Vimdin prepare to bring the droids to the rebel spy when Sandtroopers attack! The group barley escapes, and spreads the word that imperials are attacking bounty hunters. Outrage ensues and they rise to arms to get the Stormtrooper occupation out of Mos Eisly. And thus, the epic battle of Tatooine begins....

New Sculpts

Hem Dazon
Bom Vimdin
R5-D4
DZ-3

Repacks/Kitbashes
Bannis Keeg (Based on POTJ Duros)
Saurin (Based on Bossk)
Sandtrooper (POTJ)

A guy can dream right? :P

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2005, 11:35 AM
My ANH top 10...outside of Tagge and Tarkin, I think all are fair game and I'd be happy with 1-2 showing up here

1. Bom Vimdin
2. Wioslea
3. Hem Dazon
4. R5-D4 Resculpt
5. Colonel Wulf Yularen
6. Braniac
7. General Tagge
8. CZ-3
9. Tarkin Resculpt
10. Tonnika Sisters Two Pack
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on July 18, 2005, 01:19 PM
I think Tagge and Yularen would be better suited for the Death Star wave, but I'd love to see them either way.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on July 18, 2005, 05:18 PM
I will forgive Hasbro for everything if they just make CZ-3!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jagdohh_Fett on July 18, 2005, 05:54 PM
My predictions would be these in some fashion.

Luke, Han Solo, Sandtrooper, Chewbacca, Tusken Raider, Obi-Wan, and C-3PO.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Commander JediSearch on July 19, 2005, 09:15 AM
I think Obi-wan is probably going to be in there somewhere along with a Tusken Raider and a Jawa.

Of course, Luke, Han, and Chewie will be included.

That's six, and number seven is obviously the Sandtrooper.

There is my guess.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on July 19, 2005, 09:52 AM
Everyone mentioned Han, but you forgot to mention which one.  Its gotta be the commtech version.  Although the POTJ DS escape version (minus the Stormtrooper belt) pose fits in perfectly with the docking bay escape.  I would also guess the Luke fig would be with poncho. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on July 19, 2005, 10:19 AM
I'm holding out hope that Han and Luke are not in this wave... it would be a letdown if they are.  The only way I would want Luke is if he came with a poncho.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 19, 2005, 10:32 AM
I think CZ3 is a great possibility, it's been rumored for quite a while. Everything else is a craps shoot. Glad we're getting the sandtrooper with an alternate shoulder color though.

A new Dr Evezan (or however you spell his name) would also be nice.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediMAC on July 21, 2005, 08:21 PM
OK, first, what Battle happened on Tatooine?

I asked the Hasbro guys during the Q & A if these waves had to technically be from a "battle", or if some of them could just be "themed" waves, and they said they're not all necessarily "battle" related, and that some of them could indeed just be themed in some respect.  I then mentioned that all I want from them are some new Cantina and Jabba's Palace aliens, and that hopefully there'd be room to squeeze some of them into some of these upcoming assortments.  They just said something to the effect of a vague "it's possible" (though with a rather hopeless tone to it).

That said, this particular wave could be a complete and total bust (Luke, Han, Chewie, Ben, Sandtrooper, Tusken, Jawa).  OR, it could be the most beautiful thing in the history of the modern line, with all of the following:

Arcona/Hem Dazon
Tonnika Sister (with variant)
Bom Vimdin
Braniac
Givins
Wioslea
CZ-3

If Hasbro did that, I'd wet myself a hundred times over.  Then, they'd just have to pump out a couple more Jabba's Palace aliens (Hermi Odle, Yarna), and I could die a happy man.  But something tells me that this wave is more likely going to be along the lines of the crappier lineup I listed up there first...

If they did pump out some repaints, I wouldn't be overly opposed to Bannis Keeg (other Duros) and Saurin (off a Bossk).  From the Sandcrawler lineup, an all-new R5-D4 and the orange Treadwell Droid would kick a ton of ass too.

EDIT:  Brainfarted on the fact that they've already shown the Sandtrooper at SDCC, so yeah, there's one of 'em from this wave already (assuming that wasn't just a quick mockup), so I'd say it's not looking too good here for some of the more unique Cantina aliens afterall.  Crap.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on July 21, 2005, 10:30 PM
That would be great Matt but of course they won't do that.  They may stick a Tonnika Sister in there.  Hopefully a CZ-3 to.  I would be surprised if we get more than one cantina character this time. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 21, 2005, 11:29 PM
I wouldn't be disappointed with army builder repacks, really. I can always use more Stormies, Tuskens, etc. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nicklab on July 22, 2005, 12:10 AM
Here's my seven:

Sandtrooper - naturally  :D
Hem Dazon - Arcona
Owen Lars - resculpt
Biggs Darklighter - Anchorhead deleted scene
Rebel Trooper - Tantive IV resculpt
Bom Vimdim - Cantina
CZ-3
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on July 23, 2005, 06:11 AM
This is the one wave I'm least interested in, though I don't know why.  Everyone has great ideas, I just think other stuff interests me more at the moment.  But here's nothing:

New Stuff:
R5-D4 & new Jawa
Bom Vidim
Tonnika Sister

Repacks/Rehashes:
VOTC Han
Sandtrooper
VOTC or some other style R2-D2
CZ-3
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on October 15, 2005, 03:20 AM
You know I was thinking since this 'theme' is so vague, it may not be limited to the OT.  This could be where we get the young Uncle Owen and Beru figures we've been waiting for.  They're already in the drawer (I assume) from that rumored Screen Scene back in Saga (which spanned Padme), so they gotta go somewhere.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on October 18, 2005, 11:14 AM
My call

R5-D4 (tweaking of Star Tours version)
RA-7 (pack-in from Sandcrawler)
Uncle Owen (Cinema Scene Rework)
Luke (Flashback Version)
Obi-Wan (OTC Spirit Repaint)
Han (Commtech version :P)
Tonnika Sister
Arcona

Would not put it pass Hasbro to also reuse any of the figs from the Cantina Cinema Scene (Takeel, Labria, Nabrun Leids) or the Muftak Exclusive.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 18, 2005, 11:23 AM
News from the rumor mill:

Hammerhead - *new*
R5-D4 - *new*
Hem Dazon - *new*
Garindan - *new*
Han Solo - (repack)
Luke Skywalker - (repack)
Sandtrooper - (repack)



Hem Dazon - after all this time!  Can it be true?  so happy I want to  :'(

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mikey D on October 18, 2005, 11:27 AM
News from the rumor mill:

R5-D4 - *new*
Hem Dazon - *new*


If true, it's about ******* time.


Han Solo - (repack)


Great, here comes another Cantina Han repack.  How many does that make?  ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 18, 2005, 11:39 AM
News from the rumor mill:

Hammerhead - *new*



Best news of the day.  Ithorians rock.  I want them to pack him with some plants.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on October 18, 2005, 11:52 AM
News from the rumor mill:

R5-D4 - *new*
Hem Dazon - *new*


If true, it's about ******* time.


Han Solo - (repack)


Great, here comes another Cantina Han repack.  How many does that make?  ::)

I'd be nice if it was a VOTC Han with include the headset from the Falcon and a section of the falcon computer bank (from the Luke training scene)

And the VOTC Luke with soft goods Poncho and Moisture Evaporator
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on October 18, 2005, 11:54 AM
Hammerhead - *new*

Glad to see that Hammerhead is getting a new look.  I am really looking forward to this one.


R5-D4 - *new*

I'm happy with the Star Tours version... but looking forward to this too.


Hem Dazon - *new*

Pretty nice, but I would rather get a Tonnika whore.


Garindan - *new*

Very excited about this.


Han Solo - (repack)

Oh God... not the Cantina Han again... please no... maybe the VOTC one?


Luke Skywalker - (repack)

Would be great if it's the VOTC one with a floppy hat...


Sandtrooper - (repack)

Nice if it's the Evolutions one!


 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on October 18, 2005, 11:55 AM
If they repack VOTC Solo, that would be great.  I have two, but I'd pick up another one.  I'm actually kind of glad if we'd see "new" figures of Hammerhead and Garindan, I've held off on the POTF2 versions of those two.  R5-D4 and Hem Dazon are of course welcome.  Not sure which Luke we'll see repacked (VOTC, commtech, Early Bird?), but VOTC Han (if that's the version they go with) would be great.  Sandtrooper could be Evo version, or even POTJ (which I didn't think was too bad).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 18, 2005, 11:58 AM

Sandtrooper - (repack)
Nice if it's the Evolutions one!

Based on the SDCC photos, it is most likely the PotJ version...

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2005/Hasbro/Hasbro_Q_and_A/DSC08903.jpg)

Of course, there is always the chance they will wise up and put in a better version...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on October 18, 2005, 12:13 PM
I am actually finding the whole commtech Han fiasco comical. 

If these rumors pan out then just getting Arcona is a winner.  I have wanted him since '78.  I could of lived with the POTF Garindan.  I still think its one of the few figs that holds up well in the old line.  Hammerhead, unless they change him drastically, I cant see much of a difference from the two that have been released thus far. I think the Flashback Luke with a Poncho and lightsaber would make a decent repack. The VOTC version sucked hard.  I actually would take the Early Bird version with new arms with better articulation over the VOTC.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 18, 2005, 01:41 PM
It almost looks like the sandtrooper is the stormie from the Imperial Forces 4-pack with the Sandtrooper accessories. It appears as though there's knee articulation there, and the IF 4-pack stormie was basically made from the POTJ Sandtrooper with the legs from the commtech stormie.

Sure, its nowhere near as good as the evo sandtrooper, but it could certainly be worse.

I think this wave could have some promise. I'm really excited about a new Hammerhead. There's plenty of scenes that call for Ithorian customs, and I could never bring myself to use the POTF2 hammerhead for a custom. I'm psyched.

Hem Dazon, R5-D4...******* awesome. Hell, I'm even excited for Garindan. Gotta love the long snooted snitch.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 18, 2005, 03:17 PM
Hammerhead - not sure if a new version is really necessary (the POTF2 one still holds up well IMO) but I'll buy.

R5-D4 - obviously. ;)

Hem Dazon - I don't have as strong a yearning for him as some of you, but I'm always hankering for new background critters so I'll buy.

Garindan - don't have POTF2, so I'll buy.

Han Solo - :P

Luke Skywalker - Probably pass, depending on what version is used.

Sandtrooper - Always up for more sandtroopers. Even if it's POTJ -- I like that version.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediMAC on October 18, 2005, 05:51 PM
Hem Dazon:  Thank you, God.  My #1 choice for any figure at this point, so I'm thrilled to finally have this one taken care of.  Should be interesting to see what creative liberties Hasbro takes with his body, since there never really was one.

R5-D4 - If this is really an all-new, definitive R5 Astromech sculpt, then this is another huge sigh of relief and thank you God.  LONG overdue.  Hopefully they nail it for all of the astromech customizers out there who've been dying to make their R5 Droid armies.

Hammerhead - Meh.  Why?  We've got one that seems fine already, and there's still several other great Cantina characters left to choose from who have never made it into plastic.  I'm sure the figure will be cool, and I'll definitely dig it, but I think there were some much better choices that could've been made with this slot.  Now, those numerous other Cantina denizens we want are going to have to wait much longer (Bom, Givins, Tonnikas, etc.)

Garindan - See Hammerhead.  Though not in the Cantina, I think there were other better characters to choose from for Mos Eisley, namely CZ-3 or Wioslea for starters.  Nice figure, I'm sure, but there's others I'd have much rather had instead.

Sandtrooper - Can never have enough Santroopers.  I can't even recall what color pauldron the POTJ version had now.  Was it black too, or orange?  If this is the first single carded black one, then that definitely gets a big thumbs up.

Han Solo - Rehash for the kids/new collectors.  I guess I understand.  Bleh.

Luke Skywalker - See Han.  But if they made it the VOTC version, and added a floppy hat and poncho, then that'd be pretty damned cool, and easy enough for Hasbro to pull off.

Overall, I'm stoked on the Arcona and R5 selections, as everyone else is.  I'm just bummed that in one of the last couple OT environments with some characters that are still left to be made, that Hasbro couldn't pump out one or two other new ones like I mentioned above.  So that's pretty disappointing to me since it's going to be quite a wait now 'til we eventually get them.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 18, 2005, 07:33 PM
Great wave! Sure we're bound to be getting comm tech Han Again, but the new R5 D4, Hem and even Garinden are exciting choices for me. Can't wait!

I also can't wait to see the new Hammer Head. The POTF2 one was just too big.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on October 18, 2005, 08:06 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about obscure resculpts like Garindan.  The POTF2 one is fine by me, I'd rather have never before made characters.  But I'm sure this will be nice looking.  Hasbro's at the top of their game sculpt wise lately.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on October 18, 2005, 11:13 PM
Hammerhead: He's my favorite alien probably ever, but I'm not sure he was begging for a resculpt.  That said, it will probably be much cooler than I'm imagining.

R5-D4: Hell freezes over.

Hem Dazon: Finally.  What happened to those Tonnkia twins?

Garindan: Wins the One Fig In Each Wave No One Cares About award.

Han: Hopefully it's the VOTC sculpt, since I don't have one open.

Luke: Pass.

Sandtrooper: I - gasp - have all the Sandtroopers I need.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on October 19, 2005, 05:36 AM
R5-D4: I'll bite on this one and buy.

Hem Dazon: Ditto

Garindan:  I'll bite on this one too and buy.

Han: I see rehash on this one, so I'll probably pass.

Luke: Pass, unless it is SA.

Sandtrooper: If it beats the POTJ figure, I may get 2 or 3. If not, I can pass.   
 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on October 19, 2005, 07:12 AM
R5-D4- Maybe.

Hem Dazon- Buy.

Hammerhead- Maybe.

Imperial Sandtrooper- Buy.

Luke/Han/Garindan- Pass.

Seems like a pretty good wave.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 19, 2005, 12:56 PM
Sandtrooper - Can never have enough Santroopers.  I can't even recall what color pauldron the POTJ version had now.  Was it black too, or orange?  If this is the first single carded black one, then that definitely gets a big thumbs up.

POTJ was grey, and so was the post-OTC repack.

I hope the Saga2 version has all four variants (black, grey, white, orange). Right now if you want all the versions (and can't get your hands on that old Fan Club army builder set), you have to track down two Evolutions sets, the POTF2 cardboard Cantina, and POTJ/POTC, and so on and on....
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on October 19, 2005, 01:39 PM
Battle of Tatooine....was there a battle? ;)

You can bet there will be only one color of pauldron in regards to the sandtrooper, but yes, that army builder pack was the BEST four pack Hasbro put together.  The Endor rebel trooper gets my vote for worst BTW.

I kick myself for not loading up on them at the time....I think I only bought one set.   :(

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 19, 2005, 02:41 PM
Hem Dazon - #1 on my most wanted list. I really hope this guy pans out, and am curious to see what they'll do to him from the neck down.

R5-D4 - My #2! And it's about time too. Hopefully we'll se a couple variations downm the road. Oh and please don't screw him up again Hasbro.

Hammerhead - Not really seeing the point of this guy, I thought the POTF Hammerhead held up pretty well. Would have been nice to have seen somthing else that hasn't been done before, like Bom Vimdin or Elis Helrot or somthing. Oh well, give him some knee articulation and a great sculpt and I may buy.

Garindan - I guess it depends on how much better he is than hid POTF counterpart. Original Garindan wasn't too bad. I'll probably bite though, especially if he's as well sculpted as the guys from the hoth wave.

As for the Tonnikas, wasn't the rumor that they would be coming along with the rounded end of the bar or somthing? Have to wait and see, we still havn't got any news on the deluxe or screen scene front, if there will be any at all.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Disco_Jedi on October 19, 2005, 03:01 PM
Maybe they will do color vaiations on the Sandtroopers like they have done with the recent Clone Troopers?  Good or bad idea?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on October 19, 2005, 04:35 PM
The only color variations they could do on the Sandies is pauldron and maybe battle damage.  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Disco_Jedi on October 19, 2005, 04:42 PM
The only color variations they could do on the Sandies is pauldron and maybe battle damage.  :P

Yeah, the pauldrons are what I was referring to. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on October 19, 2005, 07:30 PM
R5-D4 - About damn time isn't?  Better late than never. 

Hammerhead - I love Hammerhead but would gladly have taken something new in his place.  Maybe this time he won't have a huge double-blaster rifle though.

Hem Dazon - Fantastic news! 

Luke - if he comes with the brown  poncho yes.  If not no. 

Garindan - Not really excited about him. 

Han - Depends but not looking forward to him at this point. 

Sandtrooper - No.   

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Hemish on October 20, 2005, 01:39 AM
Putting up names is all well and good, i want to see the figures first before i make any calls
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Paul on October 20, 2005, 09:49 PM
R5-D4- are we sure this is a new sculpt?

Hem Dazon- what is a Hem Dazon?  Is this a Tusken Raider or Jawa?

Hammerhead- Why doesn't he get a name?  But I'll snag one if it is a new sculpt.

Imperial Sandtrooper- hmmm Imperial Sandcastle Trooper...with an amazing 4 points of articulation...I'd buy 12 more Evo Packs before I bought 1 of these...why take 3 steps backwards in a non-movie year?

Garindan- if it is a new sculpt with the detail the POTF2 one had, AND SA then I can see some possibilities here.

Han and Luke- It needs to be VOTC HAN and Luke or otherwise there is no reason to EVER release these two again.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 20, 2005, 11:00 PM
Hem Dazon:

(http://ddourret.free.fr/HEMDAZON.gif)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on October 21, 2005, 05:11 AM
R5-D4- are we sure this is a new sculpt?

Don't know, but if it's not, I'm setting fire to my collection room.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 21, 2005, 10:12 AM
R5-D4- are we sure this is a new sculpt?


After all the fussing over the old one and the amount of requests for a new scuplt, I don't think Hasbro would dare to give us a repack.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on October 21, 2005, 01:18 PM
Just read the R5-D4 thread over at Rebelscum (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1458377&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1458377), if for no other reason than to enjoy all of the confusion over the "Slacker" label.  And, well, they didn't disappoint!  "What does it all mean?"  "I think it's referring to the fact that Hasbro took so long to make a new one."  "I think it's because all he did was stand there and pass out."

Then it finally dawned upon someone that it was a sly reference to Arfive's bad motivator, which then led to a bunch of "there better not be a 'bad motivator' action feature!" talk.

And while I believe that action features usually suck, I do think that, if they did it right, such an action feature on the new figure could actually be pretty cool.  Nothing silly, nothing to cripple the rest of the figure, just a simple button press, which would make a panel on the top of the head pop up. 

Those of you familiar with the POTF2 R2-D2 with Tools, released back in '98, will know what I'm referring to.  Press the holo-projector on the back of the dome, and the scope pops up.  It works pretty well, and hardly detracts from the looks of the figure (and this was sculpted eight years ago--it would probably be even better if they did it again today).

So, it probably won't happen, but I'd love to see such a feature on the new Arfive.   It would give an otherwise "boring" droid some play value, and--best of all--it would actually be faithful and accurate to the movie.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on October 21, 2005, 03:16 PM
Just realized that Arfive doesn't have any holo-projectors sticking out of his head (nor any other protruding buttons or knobs, for that matter--except his eyes), so doing a subtle button for a pop-up bad motivator probably wouldn't be as easy as I thought.  They could put it in a panel somewhere on the body, but that would likely compromise the head's ability to spin 360 degrees, which wouldn't be good.

Plus, the red panel on top of the motivator blows away entirely when it goes, so that might look a little strange.  They'd have to keep the red panel on there, and then it would look like one of Artoo's sensorscopes.

So, I guess a bad motivator feature isn't such a good idea, afterall.

Still though, I'm excited to finally get one of these done right.  A new R5 head, combined with the new astromech body, is more than enough to make me happy.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 21, 2005, 06:26 PM
Yknow, rather than re releasing Luke or Han again, they should repack the cantina band member, maybe give him some new articulated knees.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on October 21, 2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah you are right Greedo.  It has been a looooooooong time since they had that fan club exclusive Cantina Band Member.  I would not even mind having a carded one.  Even if it was a straight repack.  Of course the idea here is to give the kiddies and the new collectors a Han and Luke on the shelves.  Which does actually make sense.  I know.  I know.  Every time a collector goes down the aisle they never ever seen any kids interested.  Maybe it is different here in the Phx, AZ area but there are always kids looking especially on the weekends.  Twice I have been foiled by kids getting their hands on the only two Redshocktroopers I've ever seen.  Boo-hooohoooo :(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on October 21, 2005, 08:23 PM
The band member would have been a good repack.  I think it makes sense to have Luke and Han out there (as many kids ask about them in the SW aisle, they should be out there now) but the band member would practically be a new figure.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on October 21, 2005, 08:27 PM
I totally agree.  A band member would be an excellent choice rather than Han...

As for R5D4, I don't mean to sound like a jerk... but I'd probably laugh my arse off if they did a repack.  I seriously would!  It would be such a slap in the face, that I'd think it's hilarious.

Besides, I'm pretty happy with this version... they might just repack this -

(http://chewie34.250free.com/R5D2.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on October 22, 2005, 02:34 PM
I'm pretty happy with this version... they might just repack this -

(http://chewie34.250free.com/R5D2.jpg)

 :P

Yeah, now that you mention it, there's really not too much of a difference between the Star Tours R5, and the R5 in the movie, at least in terms of looks, anyway.

(http://images.hollywood.com/images/4_1732597.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on October 22, 2005, 04:34 PM
I like R5-D2 from the Star Tours line but not as a replacement R5-D4.

Given that the body's 100% unlike R5-D4 due to the HUGE gash on his left side, and that the eyes on his dome are too few and nothing like the film R5's, I think that makes some pretty big differences.  Not to say I wouldn't buy a re-release of R5-D2 painted differently or something (even if not in the film), but R5-D4 simply needs a new dome sculpted and slapped onto the Preview Astromech R4's body (or I'd even be happy with it being put onto R2-Q5's body sculpt since that would work).  This is a figure so long in the wait though that anything half-assed isn't going to cut it I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 22, 2005, 06:29 PM
Don't forget abot the antena on his dome. R5-D4 has been in demand for so long, that they have to get it right. On another note, regarding the sandtrooper. This figure would be so much better if they added some wrist articulation so he can hold his rifle with both hands. It's kind of annoying to have an army with such limited poses.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on October 22, 2005, 07:54 PM
You never know - they've stiffed Wedge three times in a row now.  There's something peculair about Hasbro coming just short of expectations on the stuff we REALLY want (Wedge, SA everything, etc.).

Maybe it's just me. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on October 23, 2005, 02:47 PM
I do realize that the R5D2 isn't an accurate version of R5D4... I guess for whatever reason, R5D4 just isn't too important of a character to me, and I'm just happy with the Star Tours one.  Kinda weird I guess... but I love that figure.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2005, 09:17 AM
Quote
The band member would have been a good repack.  I think it makes sense to have Luke and Han out there (as many kids ask about them in the SW aisle, they should be out there now) but the band member would practically be a new figure.

The Cantina Band Member would be a figure I wouldn't mind seeing repacked either.  I really started getting into collecting a little late for this, and it would be a nice figure to see in one of these waves.  As far as Luke and Han go, I really don't mind seeing them included in waves now and then.  Particularly if they are new sculpts of some of the past figures that we could really use new versions of (Stormtrooper and Endor in particular).  Otherwise, in a wave like this, if they are smart enough to repack the VOTC Han instead of Cantina...I think that's great.  I'd probably buy another one to be honest with you.  And, as was mentioned earlier, although kids aren't always swarming the Star Wars aisles, I do see them there more this past year+, and I have seen many asking for Luke, Han, Chewie, R2/3PO, Vader, etc.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2005, 10:02 AM
For as much as I hate to admit it, I think having Han and Luke in this wave is pretty smart. I've head people asking for them as well when looking for figures this past year.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on October 24, 2005, 08:52 PM
I do realize that the R5D2 isn't an accurate version of R5D4... I guess for whatever reason, R5D4 just isn't too important of a character to me, and I'm just happy with the Star Tours one.  Kinda weird I guess... but I love that figure.

 :P

Don't get me wrong, R5-D2 is a pretty cool little figure, and I wouldn't mind gettin one myself, but he's different enough from D4 for me to tell the difference. And R5-D4 not an important character? Despite his few seconds of screen time, R5-D4 is probably one of the most pivitol characters in the SW Universe. Were it not for that bad motivator, he'd have been purchased by Luke and Owen. R2 ould be loaded back onto the sandcrawler and captured by the Imperials, causing the rebels to never recieve the secret plans, ushering in a new reign of terror for the empire with thier indestructable new weapon. Luke never would have run into Obi Wan, who in turn would never run into Solo and Chewbacca, who would never end up in the death star to rescue Leia, who would be killed by the empire. But because of the noble R5-D4, blowing his own motivator to keep R2 and 3PO together, the galaxy was saved. R5 should have been at the end of Jedi in spirit form instead of Anakin. I guess the point I'm trying to make is R5-D4 deserves a well done, accuratley sculpted figure.

As for the Luke/Han repacks, I understand the reasoning behind them, and if it were VOTC versions instead of somthing more outdated then I'm all for it. It'd be even better if they included some cool assesory to persuade those of us who already have one to get another. Like maybe a cantina table. I'd buy ten Cantina Hans if he came with a cantina table.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on October 30, 2005, 08:32 AM
'Scum has another "411", this time on the Tatooine wave. Check it out here (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_411_The_Battle_Of_Tatooine_95572.asp).

Were gettin' another Holiday Special figure Yay!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on October 30, 2005, 02:57 PM
Another "I kinda' figured that out on my own" 411.  You think they'd be able to identify which sculpts the repacks use, or which deco the Clone in the Coruscant wave is, if they really had the dirt.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 30, 2005, 08:23 PM
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Yeah, I can hear it now. “Don’t you mean Hem Dazon?” Nope. Hem is the strange creature with the triangular head that introduced us all to the hive of scum and villainy known as the Creature Cantina. After a looooooong search, it turns out Dem is an actual character too. He’s the strange creature with the triangular head that introduced us all to the hive of scum and villainy known as the Holiday Special. This figure, which is a totally new sculpt, marks the second character from the dreaded TV special to be immortalized in plastic. The first being Zutton from the POTJ line.

Dem Hazon. Riiiiiight. I've never, ever, ever heard this. Now Hasbro is just pulling stuff out of their ass for no reason at all. ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on October 31, 2005, 09:16 AM
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Another "I kinda' figured that out on my own" 411.  You think they'd be able to identify which sculpts the repacks use, or which deco the Clone in the Coruscant wave is, if they really had the dirt.

Agreed.  Although I do always enjoy the rumors, or even semi-confirmed stuff, I kind of wish these "411s" had just a little more specifics.  For example, in this wave it is fairly likely that the Han, Luke, and Sandtrooper are repacks...but which ones.  If it is Cantina Han, the rage will continue on the boards, but if it is the VOTC version, well, that makes a difference.  Same with the Luke and Sandtrooper, depends on what versions are being offered.

As far as the overall wave, I'll pick up Hem (or Dem, whatever), Hammerhead, R5-D4, and Garindan.  I don't have any of these, or the previous versions, so I'm happy to see them.  As for Han, Luke, and the Sandtrooper, I'll have to see which ones they are.  I'll probably pick up a couple of Sandtroopers if possible, regardless, need to build up my OT troops a bit.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 31, 2005, 12:14 PM
Quote
"Yeah, I can hear it now. “Don’t you mean Hem Dazon?” Nope.... This figure, which is a totally new sculpt, marks the second character from the dreaded TV special to be immortalized in plastic. The first being Zutton from the POTJ line."

Dem Hazon. Riiiiiight. I've never, ever, ever heard this. Now Hasbro is just pulling stuff out of their ass for no reason at all. ::)

That sounds like Hasbro already has the cards printed up and realized they misspelled the name, so they came up with this lame story.  Even if it's true, it's stupid to pick Dem over Hem.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 31, 2005, 01:21 PM
That sounds like Hasbro already has the cards printed up and realized they misspelled the name, so they came up with this lame story.  Even if it's true, it's stupid to pick Dem over Hem.

Meh...Its the same guy in my opinion.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on October 31, 2005, 01:29 PM
It reminds me a lot of the Duros debate - is the guy we got Ellorrs Madak or is he actually Baniss Keeg?  I don't really care, I was just happy to get him. 

Same goes for this guy - Hem Dazon, Dem Hazon - whatever.  I won't lose any sleep over it, just give me a damn Arcona already!   :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 31, 2005, 02:46 PM
Good point guys.  They can call him Alice for all I really care, ultimately it's the figure itself that matters.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on October 31, 2005, 03:14 PM
Even if it IS true, maybe it's just Hasbro's little "Nya-nya" to collectors:

"Sure we'll give you an Arcona, but we'll give him a different name so he isn't technically the right one you were looking for! See, we came SO close to satisfying your requests but stopped just short of going 100%! We win!"

I wouldn't put it past them. ::)
Title: Cantina Wave Pics!
Post by: speedermike on December 19, 2005, 10:41 PM
http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/news20051219.html

These look great! Enjoy!
Title: Re: Cantina Wave Pics!
Post by: speedermike on December 19, 2005, 10:49 PM
Is it just me, or are these new sculpts some of the best things Hasbro has ever done?  For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why they were resculpting Garindan, but he looks awesome!  Also, looks like Hem comes with the sandman gun from Logan's Run!
Title: Re: Cantina Wave Pics!
Post by: CHEWIE on December 19, 2005, 10:50 PM
Very interesting looking assortment here... I'm very happy with most of these.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_momaw_bg.jpg)

Ithorian - Wow, simply awesome.  What a great sculpt, it looks so real!  His waist look like a big space but I am sure they will fix that.  I give this a 10/10 - pure perfection.  Count me in for several, as in 6 or more.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_r5d4_bg.jpg)

R5-D4 - Looks perfect to me, I think people are going to be happy.  I wonder if they'll add a bit of weathering?  I'll take 2 or 3 of them.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_garindan_bg.jpg)

Garindan - Hot damn, he looks like a Sideshow figure!  About time they resculpted him I think... really, what could be better?  Looks like great custom fodder too... damn I need several of him too.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_hem_bg.jpg)

Hem Dazon - Absolutely wild!!!  What a great design they chose for the rest of his body, and sculpted like a McFarline figure!   The little bandolier thing is great too!  Oh Lord, I want a ton of these, and want to make a little army with them...

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_han_bg.jpg)

Han Solo - Looks better than I thought this kitbash/rehash would.  The head looks nice, so I will get one.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_luke_bg.jpg)

Luke Skywalker - I'll be optimistic and say it will look better with the final product.  That hat sure is riding high, I can't believe they didn't at least photoshop it to look like it fits.  Count me in for a couple, the poncho looks great.  Looks like the Early Bird head to me.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_sandtrooper_bg.jpg)

Sandtrooper - Yep, I'll take two of them.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_vader_bg.jpg)

The helmet looks off... but I'm sure it will be better as the final product.  I'll buy one.  And for whatever reason, they gave a description on the site of him from ESB.

 :P

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on December 19, 2005, 10:57 PM
Wow.

Most of these look FANTASTIC.

I love Hem Dazon, he's amazing!

R5-D4 - about ******* time!  looks like the vOTC R2-D2 sculpt with a new dome (because of the panel on the front).  I guess we know why he wasn't in the EE packs...  :P

Man, that Hem Dazon is SWEET.   ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ook on December 19, 2005, 10:58 PM
Oh man, I want the aliens bad. Hammerhead looks ******* AWESOME!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 19, 2005, 11:00 PM
You know, this is still a great time to be a Star Wars collector... with product looking this good so far, 2006 should be a good year again.  And I think we'll have many more good years to come.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Famine on December 19, 2005, 11:01 PM
(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_momaw_bg.jpg)

Ithorian -Man, I cannot wait for this guy. Put me down for at least 3 of him. That skirt will be an awsome Jedi skirt for a custom.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_r5d4_bg.jpg)

R5-D4 - I'll be getting one of these. :)

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_garindan_bg.jpg)

Finnaly, a new holster! And an awsome figure included. I'm impressed.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_hem_bg.jpg)

I cant flipping wait for this figure. The potential for customs alone has sold me on 4 or more.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_luke_bg.jpg)

Luke Skywalker - I want this figure for the Poncho, hat, and Binocs. Once I see the body I'll see if I want one to keep as Luke.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_sandtrooper_bg.jpg)

Sandtrooper - Yep, I'll take two of them as well.

I'm so impressed by these new figures.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CorranHorn on December 19, 2005, 11:03 PM
(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_han_bg.jpg)

OHMYGAWD! Hasbro has stepped to an all new low! They didn't get enough of re-re-releasing the Commtech Han, so this time around they gave it a new head and are calling it a new figure. Holy ****** smokes, what a lark! The rest of the wave is cool though, the aliens are kickass and finally R5-D4 in all his glory!

Ok after posting that I realize it looks like the quick "find fault with Hasbro" reply. And it sorta is, but it isn't. I can understand re-releasing a figure and maybe fixing it up a little, that's what they have done with the Luke as that appears to be the Commtech Luke with a new head. But damn, how many times in the last 2 years has the Commtech Han been re-released and now there is a superior Han out there they could use. It's just so disturbing.

However, I think the rest of the wave is killer, Momaw Nadon looks outstanding a great sculpt and is definitely awesome custom fodder. The same for Hem Dazon, he has a nice rich detail to him. The same goes for Garidan, who knew there was so much more to him. R5-D4 is finally here and it's what we've all wanted. The Sandtrooper is a nice re-release with a new weapon and the new head sculpt on the CT Luke looks pretty good, not enough for me to buy it, but close.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on December 19, 2005, 11:17 PM
Wow. I'm absolutely blown away by this wave. :o

Count me in for a dozen of all 3 Aliens. They are excellent sculpts, and will ake some great fodder. The R5-D4, while just an EB/VOTC rehash, looks awesome. Count me in for a few of him too. Of course I have o have a few Sandtroopers. The Luke looks decent, I'll pick him up. I'll probably grab a Vader to have carded, but I don't need a loose one. Same witgh Han, I'm in no need of another one, I wish they had repacked the VOTC version instead.

The one thing I'm not so excited about is the apparent lack of articulation. I really hope this isn't a sign of the future... :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on December 19, 2005, 11:26 PM
The more I look at these pictures, the more I LOVE the 4 new figures.  Fantastic!

Momaw = GREAT!

R5-D4 = a long time coming!

Garindan = that holster/belt is really amazing!

Hem Dazon... so beautiful...  :'(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on December 19, 2005, 11:31 PM
Looks like R5 has some seams here and there on his front paneling - it may have "Bad Motivator Exploding Action"...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Famine on December 19, 2005, 11:36 PM
Looks like R5 has some seams here and there on his front paneling - it may have "Bad Motivator Exploding Action"...

Good eye.

Looks like a removable pannel.

Kevin
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on December 19, 2005, 11:45 PM
It is the EB/VOTC R2-D2 body with a new dome. The panels are the same as the R2 and it has the removable third leg. So they saved some $$$ making it, but I'm still happy. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on December 20, 2005, 12:02 AM
What a great wave! I'll be getting all the aliens and R5, as well as a few Sandtroopers. Vader is the 500th again (I think), and the kitbash Han and Luke don't look apealing to me. Great work though!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on December 20, 2005, 12:02 AM
The new figures look great and seem to pick up right were they left off with the last cantina wave in OTC. There's a small step back in articulation with the lack of knee joints, but those sculpts are so great, it doesn't concern me that much. I really excited by Garindan. I didn't think it was a figure worth resculpting, and then, wow. A total treat.

Han is odd. If they went through the effort to redo the head, they should have probably tinkered with the left arm, which has always been my one sore point with the figure. If it was straight, I'd probably complain about this Han a lot less. I bet this figure has become a joke at Hasbro and they're dying to read all the reactions to his inclusion.

Luke makes sense to me. As long as I get that poncho, they can put it on any old sculpt and I'll be happy. It's the one thing missing from Tatooine Luke over the years and it's a joy to finally have it.

I hope R5 gets a bit of weathering as well, but for the love of god, it's about frickin' time!

So is the there going to be like 8 rehash Vaders this year? Yeesh.

All in all, a pretty good wave. I'm still concern we're taking a step back in articulation, but damn, the new sculpts are some of the best ever. Nice work.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on December 20, 2005, 12:13 AM
So is the there going to be like 8 rehash Vaders this year? Yeesh.

Like Diddly said, I think the Vader is just the 2006 Hoth Vader (500th Vader repaint) trotted out again.

Vader wasn't in the initial rumor reports we got, so I think it's just a case of Vader "refreshing" the case for the kiddies...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 20, 2005, 12:21 AM
Wow, what an update, and what a fan-friggin'-tastic wave of figures these turned out to be...  I'll sorta start from the weak offerings and work my way down the wave of figures...


(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_luke_bg.jpg)
Skywalker looks like he may be ok, but he also looks like basically just a figure we'll buy for new accessories.  The knees are T-16 Luke's, which sort of disappoints me because I think a new SA Luke Tatooine is in order after ALL the versions they've made....  However the figure's mostly obscured by the INCREDIBLE poncho accessory.  I hope the final one looks like that, because that's about the best use of cloth on a figure I believe I've seen, short of maybe VOTC Lando's intricately detailed cape.  That really looks like it's plastic at a quick glance, it is hanging/folding so well on the figure.  I'm cool with buying another Tat Luke but I just was hoping they'd take the VOTC articulation and do up a nice "final" one....  This figure isn't so bad I'm upset or anything, but if it didn't have the cool poncho there's a good chance I'd be passing on this one.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_han_bg.jpg)

You've gotta be ******** me...  Cantina Han, again?  I mean, his decoration does look a bit more accurate but he really needs retired at this stage of the game.  VOTC Han should be the new standard Han recard/rerelease to me, so this figure is the stinker of the lot...  Good for kids, but VOTC's better for EVERYONE.  :)  Hell I'd even still buy VOTC Han for customizing if he was around...  Either way, I figured this one would underwhelm and it did.  Not even a repaint of the hands for the leather gloves?  Hmmph.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_momaw_bg.jpg)

I always have liked my Momaw Nadon figure but what a nice resculpt this is...  Personally I'm not always too hot on Cantina Alien resculpts (Though Garindan's up there on my want list because he sucked so bad in POTF2), but Momaw turned out great.  I'm glad to say that I won't retire my other Ithorians either, which is cool for some cultural diversity in my dioramas.  The other Momaw's from the Cantina sets and basic POTF2 look nice and different enough they'll fit in still with this new figure.

His accessories are cool too...  I can't make out the articulation too well, but it looks fairly weak on Momaw unfortunately.  This sucks especially since he was actually sitting in the Cantina at a table, so it would really have been nice on this figure.  That said, the sculpt is amazing...  Articulation looks like it may be weakest of the 3 aliens though, yikes.  :-\  Really sharp looking though and good to add to any Cantina...  And I could be missing some articulation points too, they could be very well hidden.  Man that skirt piece looked like softgoods too at first, it's really nicely done.  Momaw looks like he should be asking for change outside the Cantina.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_r5d4_bg.jpg)

R5-D4...  About friggin' time on this one.  Am I the only one who wishes Hasbro included the other panel piece with "tools"?  Not that we see him use them, but still I just think it'd be a cool extra.  I'm also slightly more of a Preview astromech/R4-P17 sculpt with the retractable leg.  The panel of the VOTC R2, if you're not gonna get the extra panel and tools, detracts from the figure otherwise to me...  Still, this is a very good R5-D4 and I'm glad to have something to do R5 figure customs with and to fill a very big hole in the collection.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_garindan_bg.jpg)

Garindan is just a HUGE improvement over the POTF2 figure.  I love that he appears to have a separate belt/holster, and a cool looking pistol (Squidhead's?).  The communicator he snitches with is really neat too and looks removable.  Softgoods robe? I'm there.  I hope his goggles come off to then...  

I am however disappointed to see no knee joints there.  That sorta sucks...  Not a huge issue with old Long Snoot to me, but it's further signs of articulation getting the shaft in the upcoming years and that just simply is a backwards step.  Garindan could use some knee joints incase you want him sitting around in your Cantina or just walking the streets of Mos Eisley.  Not as annoying as it is with army builder figures, but still not a positive mark for this figure.  He looks pretty great otherwise.  I'm wondering what the rest of his articulation is like, and what's doing under that hood.  Never seen his species without the goggles and that outfit.

Oh, and also of note is Garindan's holster has the thigh strap actually there and holding the holster down.  It's everything VOTC Han's holster should've been.  REally cool looking.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_hem_bg.jpg)

Hem Dazon has been one of my top wanted aliens from the Cantina...  He and Bom Vimdin.  I don't see Bom which sucks, but Hem's looking incredibly freaky and based on Expanded Universe designs of what the Arcona look like physically.  That's pretty cool and looks like it'll make Hem one of the more absurd looking aliens in the Cantina which is just what he should be.

Hem's pistol looks to be a resculpt for a to-scale version of Ponda Baba's/Rebel Hoth Trooper's sidearm.  That's cool and needed for the line...  Hem's definitely got the angle-cut articulation at the arms too, however it appears that once again knee joints were omitted, and this time on a guy who was definitely in the Cantina.  Like with Garindan I'm disappointed.  Hasbro's Cantina Wave at the end of OTC was really what the standard should be for figures at this point unless they're robed Senators where the articulation is pointless.  

Hem looks pretty awesome though, and I'm happy to be adding this one to the Cantina.  That diorama's filled up FAST in the last couple of years.

(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_sandtrooper_bg.jpg)

Sandtrooper...  Weird looking figure, I can't make out what's what there.  Looks almost like new thighs, but re-used Commtech Stormtrooper everywhere else with a Sandtrooper Pauldron?  I like getting black pauldroned Sandies though since they are the "grunt" supposedly, that's cool...  The stick's neat, looks like the Dewback rider's but smaller.  The sculpt's really hard to say if it's just the Commtech 100% or not though.  I'll take a couple if I can find them to mix up the group but I'd obviously have preferred the Evolutions Sandtrooper.  That would've been the ideal choice for them to use, and obviously not the choice we'd get for a re-release...  :)

Great wave though, lots of holes filled with this one...  And of course the obligatory Cantina Han re-release and the CT Stormie sculpt used at least in part.

EDIT:

OH yeah and there's a Darth Vader there...  great.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on December 20, 2005, 05:02 AM
(http://www.starwars.com/collecting/news/hasbro/img/20051219_r5d4_bg.jpg)

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Looks like his Dufresne Campaign may have actually worked. . .




And just because the picture shows what appears to be a repaint of the VOTC Artoo (which is a smidge disappointing), let's not forget what's happened with the Artoo in the upcoming Battle of Hoth wave (i.e. early photos showed a repainted Sneak Preview sculpt, then the final production figure was a repainted VOTC sculpt).  Maybe the opposite will be true this time around.

And not that the VOTC sculpt is horrible or anything (it was fantastic until the Sneak Preview droid came out), but I hate for them to be using an inferior sculpt when a superior one is available. 

But I just realized--maybe this is a similar issue with all the different clone sculpts they've been using.  Maybe the Sneak Preview molds are occupied with the EE Astromechs, so they're using the VOTC mold to make the Hoth Artoo and this one.

At any rate, wherever he may be nowadays, I'm sure little Webster's thrilled that one of his dreams has come true.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on December 20, 2005, 07:00 AM
Finally they decided to throw in the poncho for Luke.  For that reason alone I will buy him.  Hammerhead looks incredible.  So does Garindan and Hem Dazon.  Wow!  Just Wow!  R5-D4 looks good to. 

So far that is the wave I am looking forward to the most along with the Hoth wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on December 20, 2005, 08:02 AM
Holy ****… I wake up this morning and see these beauties!!!

I love everyone even the re-re-re-re-rehashed Han & re-re-hashed Vader, great wave.

Some of those sculpts and accessories are perfect and an excellent use of Soft Goods where needed. Esp. Garindan.

And from the looks, not and "action feature" among them


Thank you Hasbro, thanks for growing a pair
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 20, 2005, 09:32 AM
Awsome wave! The new scuplts are just amazing, yet, a lot of people are going to be complaining about the lack of articulation.  ???
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on December 20, 2005, 10:30 AM
It was great waking up to find pictures of this wave, a real nice surprise.  This wave, particularly the new figures, just looks great to me and I can't wait for it.  I think it might be my favorite overall for what we've seen for 2006 so far.  Aside from the Vader (which might just be repacked from the Hoth wave, as was mentioned), I think I'll end up picking up every one of them.

Hammerhead (or Momaw if you prefer) - This is a figure I never picked up in the POTF2/Saga days, just waiting to see if it would be re-done.  Now, I'm glad I waited.  Not that the previous figure was too bad either, but to me, this one just looks amazing.  The sculpt is top notch, and it looks like a great figure.

R5-D4 - What can be said...we've all been waiting for this one.  It re-uses the VOTC R2 mold a bit, but it works for what it is.  Fills a gaping whole in pretty much all of our collections I think, and is a very welcome figure.

Garindan - Another POTF2 figure I held off on, and again, I'm glad I did.  A resculpt again, but it looks to be worlds better than the previous one and a pretty cool figure overall.

Hem Dazon - Wow, this is nice.  We've all been hoping we'd see him, and I like what they did with the previously unseen "body" of the figure.  A really nice Cantina alien, and a nice figure overall.

Han Solo - I don't so much have a problem with Han showing up, and I do like the new head, but why they don't just straight repack the VOTC version is a puzzler.  Cantina Han was a great figure at the time, but has since been vastly improved upon and his constant repacking has angered most everyone at this point.  That being said, the new head (and paint?) make the figure look pretty good...and I'll probably still pick one up.  Maybe just to leave carded on these spiffy cardbacks.

Luke Skywalker - Luke with poncho, that's enough for me too.  Another retooling, but its a version of Tatooine Luke that is fairly welcome it seems (with the hat/poncho).  Like Jesse mentioned, I'd like to see a "SA" version of this figure someday, but for now, this isn't too bad.  I'll definitely pick it up.

Overall, a real nice wave, and one I'm greatly looking forward to.  I too noticed a possible step back in articulation, and I'm not sure what to make of it.  On some of these figures, it doesn't drive me nuts because the sculpts are very nice, but I'm wondering if this is a sign of things to come or not.  From what we have seen so far for the 2006 line, it almost looks like main characters and troops are the ones getting the most attention articulation-wise (Leia Boussh, AT-AT Driver, repacked Han/Luke, etc.), and the background stuff is a little more standard-fare, non-balljointed articulation.  I guess I can live with that, as long as we don't regress too far artic. wise.  Anyways, that complaint aside, the figures themselves look great.  Definitely looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 20, 2005, 10:42 AM
Jesse, maybe I'm wrong but I think it's possible that the Hammerhead could have swivel joints at the knees/elbows.  At least I hope so.

Like everyone else, I want some more knee articulation on these figures.  It's not going to keep me from buying them, but would be an nice touch.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on December 20, 2005, 10:51 AM
I am very excited about this wave, more than any other wave actually.  R5 looks awesome as does everyone else (minus Cantina Han).

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Bobafett77 on December 20, 2005, 11:23 AM
Loving this wave! As with others, Han is the only one I really don't care for. If Hasbro keeps this up I won't be saving as much money as I thought I would this next year...  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Tedious on December 20, 2005, 12:23 PM
For reference.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/Tedious1/TatooineWave.jpg)

Best Saga 2 wave so far IMO!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: John C on December 20, 2005, 12:25 PM

Best Saga 2 wave so far IMO!

I agree.  I won't buy that POS Han or the Vader.  I will pick uo the Stormie if he's the Evolutions or VOTC one.  I will buy the others.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Bobafett77 on December 20, 2005, 12:52 PM
I will pick uo the Stormie if he's the Evolutions or VOTC one. 

From the photo they have posted I'm pretty sure their going to use the Commtech Stormtrooper mold for the Sandtrooper.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on December 20, 2005, 01:20 PM
This wave looks incredible. I'll be picking up Mr. Dazon.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2005, 01:56 PM
I know this has probably been covered in here somewhere, but which mold is the Vader from?

500th Vader?  Evolutions?  VOTC? 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on December 20, 2005, 02:12 PM
Looks to me like the 500th, mainly because of the basic shoulder joints and it looks like the top of the helmet comes off ala 500th Vader.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on December 20, 2005, 04:23 PM
This would be my favorite wave of all time if there was an all new super acurate Dr. Ezavan figure!

These just keep looking better and better!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2005, 06:45 PM
Wait a second, why the hell is there a Vader in this wave at all?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on December 20, 2005, 08:06 PM
Because Vader is the single most recognized SW character there is.  He always sells, and sells well to parents and children.  In my opinion, he should always be on the pegs.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Hemish on December 20, 2005, 08:22 PM
Just when you thought you werent gonna be buying any of these , they pull this off
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: evenflow on December 20, 2005, 09:17 PM
Very cool, looking forward to Hem Dazon.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2005, 10:37 PM
Because Vader is the single most recognized SW character there is.  He always sells, and sells well to parents and children.  In my opinion, he should always be on the pegs.

Yeah but he wasn't in the cantina, didn't visit luke on the farm, and didn't go out looking for the droids with the Sandtroopers.

Point is, there is a Vader (appropriately) in the Hoth wave - there's no reason for him to be in the Tatooine wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on December 20, 2005, 11:12 PM
Point is, there is a Vader (appropriately) in the Hoth wave - there's no reason for him to be in the Tatooine wave.

I think you missed it earlier in the thread, but from all accounts/rumors the Vader included in this wave IS the Hoth Vader (a 500th Vader repaint). 

I think they are just packing him in this case to make sure that he is shipping throughout the year... at least that's the current info we have (insert standard Hasbro disclaimer here).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on December 20, 2005, 11:33 PM
That's cool - but he shouldn't be unveiled as part of the wave then - he should still be part of the Hoth wave but packed in the case assortment...

Just being a stickler.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on December 20, 2005, 11:57 PM
Hem Dazon Garindan R5-D4 Ithorian and the Sandtrooper I'll definately be picking up. The rest eh.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Vator on December 21, 2005, 12:17 AM
What a great wave...count me in for multiples of all of them, spare heros.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 21, 2005, 01:12 AM
Yeah I can't tell what's poseable on Momaw Nadon CHEWIE, but a joint coudl be hidden anywhere on the sculpt.

Just a point of note, I'm not disappointed in this wave, I'm disappointed in articulation overall seemingly taking a back seat.  Hasbro's capable of better in that department simply by taking a look at the 2004/05 Cantina Wave.  That's a great "standard" being put aside. 

I love the new figures in this wave and Luke and hte Sandtrooper even have me anxious to buy both, but the articulation's more a commentary aside on my part about the direction the line may (or may not) be going, and it's a HUGE disappointment.  It's 1 step forward though a lot of 2005 and then 2 steps back to me.  From Veers to Derlin to Hem, there's a trend there, and it goes back to the end waves of ROTS too, and that just sucks.  I hope it's not "the standard".  For my money, the lacking articulation hurt more on Veers and Derlin than Hem Dazon and Garindan.  To me, Veers and Derlin are army builders and deserve a little extra effort as such...  Hem, I just am glad to see him finally done. :)  Love that figure...  Just hate his leg articulation.  Great figure otherwise though...  I'd say a great wave, and maybe my favorite so far, I'm not sure though as I've liked the others a lot too for the most part.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on December 21, 2005, 04:36 AM
Well, I may have reached the point of saturation.  My first reaction when I saw this wave, which is incredible, some truly great work, was "I already bought these figures."  As cool as Garindan turned out, I didn't need a new one, don't have the urge to buy a new one, and I feel roughly the same about every fig in this wave except for R5 and Hem.  It feels very strange to be so disconnected from SW figs when everyone else is so (justly) excited.

Anyways...

Hammerhead: One of my all time fave aliens, and they did gangbusters here, but the lack of articulation on all of these figs really puts a cloud over things.  Definitely getting him.

R5: Finally.

Garindan: See above.

Hem: He looks great and glad to see him.

Luke: It's great they're getting one out there, but if he's not an SA Luke to beat all Lukes, nah.

Han: It is to laugh.

Sandie: I have enough, I think.

Vader: Ditto.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 21, 2005, 10:52 AM


Hammerhead (or Momaw if you prefer) - This is a figure I never picked up in the POTF2/Saga days, just waiting to see if it would be re-done. 

R5-D4 - What can be said...we've all been waiting for this one. 

Garindan - Another POTF2 figure I held off on, and again, I'm glad I did. 


Now that's Faith!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on December 21, 2005, 11:23 AM
Quote
Now that's Faith!

I can't take too much credit, much of it has to do with the fact that I got into the POTF2 line later on...and had to pick up a lot of the earlier figures online or via ebay, etc.  Those are ones I didn't get around to at first, and then thought about them the last couple of years but just thought I'd "wait and see" what the post-ROTS line would bring.  I figured if they didn't show up, we might see re-releases, or I could pick up the POTF2 versions pretty cheap.  I'm doing the same thing with figures like 2-1B, Ugnaughts, 4-LOM/Zuckuss, and the Max Rebo band too...I want them, but I've just been putting them off with all the spending on ROTS stuff this past year.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on December 21, 2005, 01:25 PM
Woohoo! Now this is the wave i've been waiting to see, and a great wave it is. At long last Hem Dazon and an accurate R5-D4! The Hammerhead is also a pleasant surprise. When I heard they were re doing him I was kind of annoyed, thinking that the old POTF2 one was fine but wow, this new one is very impressive, and his outfit is different enough that he's almost like an all new character. Garindan is also pretty cool looking, lkie everyone else, i love the holster. However, am I alone in this or does there just seem to be somthing a little off about him in the snout? Maybe it's just the angle of the picture, but there just seems to be somthing not quite right there, but i suppose I'm just nitpicking. A solid figure all around. I might get the Luke, depending on money but the other 4 are must haves. I I could only buy one wave this year, this would be the one.

Also, depsite Vaders popularity, I really don't see why you'd include him in a Tatooine wave. I can't see Vader ever stepping foot on that planet, but oh well. A better choice would have been a living repaint of Spirit Ben from the Dagohbah wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 21, 2005, 01:35 PM
I'll never regret getting my old Garidan or Hammerhead - for almost 10 years I've had them in my collection - to me, that's well worth $5 a figure for that much enjoyment.

In fact, I've got over 20 loose POTF2 Hammerheads.  Many have been customized. 

I don't think waiting for an improved figure to be made would be fun for me.  I'd rather enjoy what is out, and then upgrade later.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on December 21, 2005, 02:09 PM
Yes, I've always been happy with my POTF2 Hammerhead and Garindan.  I'm surprised that they decided to retool these guys....the new versions are nothing to complain about though!

 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Morgbug on December 21, 2005, 03:03 PM
Pics look great, I'm very impressed, but I do have one question:  why does Garindan have a vastly superior holster than does Han?  That just strikes me as weird.  I'm extremely pleased with the Garindan figure, make no mistake, I'm in the camp that didn't think we needed another but I am thrilled with the result.  But is there a reason Han must suck so badly?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on December 21, 2005, 08:52 PM
Pics look great, I'm very impressed, but I do have one question:  why does Garindan have a vastly superior holster than does Han?  That just strikes me as weird.  I'm extremely pleased with the Garindan figure, make no mistake, I'm in the camp that didn't think we needed another but I am thrilled with the result.  But is there a reason Han must suck so badly?

Hasbro just has it bad for that Cantina sculpt.  I did like that figure when it first came out but talk about beating a dead horse.  Man.  Hopefully the one later on in the year will be a new sculpt?  We'll see. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 21, 2005, 09:09 PM
I guess I'm not too upset about the Han - because I expected it to be re-released, and the VOTC one was so easy to get, and was clearanced everywhere in my area.  I picked up several for $3.00 each for openers/customizing.  This Han I think is to fill in the void for the kiddos that wanted a Han figure in 2005.  At least he has a new head and better paint colors!

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 22, 2005, 12:27 AM
Pics look great, I'm very impressed, but I do have one question:  why does Garindan have a vastly superior holster than does Han?  That just strikes me as weird.  I'm extremely pleased with the Garindan figure, make no mistake, I'm in the camp that didn't think we needed another but I am thrilled with the result.  But is there a reason Han must suck so badly?

Hasbro just has it bad for that Cantina sculpt.  I did like that figure when it first came out but talk about beating a dead horse.  Man.  Hopefully the one later on in the year will be a new sculpt?  We'll see. 

That brings up a good point. Do we really want a new ANH Han sculpt every year? Granted, the VOTC sculpt can't be improved upon too much, but I don't think they can offer that to us as a basic figure yet. I mean really, how many ANH Han scuplts do we need?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on December 22, 2005, 12:31 AM
They could have at least made him as he appears outside the falcon, with the gloves on I suppose.  Or in Stormtrooper armor... are the Luke/Han Stormtrooper figures still scheduled for 2006?

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 22, 2005, 11:48 AM
Alright, Han stormtrooper armor is a given. That one needs to be made. Technically, I guess they could make one with gloves as well. :P But that's it. No more after that. Except for maybe a less possed Han with Stormtropper belt. But, that's it. Really.

Okay, Cerimonial Han too. :(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on December 22, 2005, 08:50 PM
Looking at the Hoth wave, and all of the little extras Hasbro added to some figures, I wonder if we'll get anything neat with these.  I'd love to see something (anything) thrown in with R5.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 23, 2005, 01:03 PM
  I'd love to see something (anything) thrown in with R5.

They are. They've re-worked the missle attacke and are now calling it "rockect propelled motivator" feature.





Just kidding.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Tedious on December 23, 2005, 02:08 PM
The panel on the front of R5 looks like it opens like the VOTC R2. I wonder if it is sealed or will openable.

If it were just going to remain sealed, you would think Hasbro would have just used the R4-G9 body.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on December 24, 2005, 01:21 AM
Yeah that's my point Tedious...  If they're gonna use the VOTC R2 it'd be great if they included the "open panel" panel with the tools...  Not that R5 used them, but I'd like that option for him if I wanted it and for customs it'd be great.  It'd be a plus for the figure, so I for one hope he comes with it...  To me though I'd have preferred the preview astromech's sculpt.  It was a lot better to me due to the feature being perfect and not doing anything but help the figure aesthetically.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2006, 12:18 AM
Well, the Battle of Tatooine wave is now up for Pre-Order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770E):

Star Wars - The Saga Collection 3 3/4-inch Basic Action Figure Assortment Wave 5:
2x Momaw Nadon (Cantina Alien "Hammerhead", Saga #31)
2x R5-D4 (Saga #32),
2x Sandtrooper (Saga #37)
2x Darth Vader (Bespin Battle, Saga #38)
1x Hem Dazon (Cantina Alien "Goldeyes", Saga #33)
1x Garindan (Cantina Aliens "Long Snoot/Snitch", Saga #34)
1x Han Solo (Cantina, Saga #35)
1x Luke Skywalker (Tatooine Poncho and Hat, Saga #36)


from all accounts/rumors the Vader included in this wave IS the Hoth Vader (a 500th Vader repaint). 

I think they are just packing him in this case to make sure that he is shipping throughout the year... at least that's the current info we have (insert standard Hasbro disclaimer here).

Well, I guess based on this case solicitation, the early reports were WRONG.   :-\

If you look close you will see that that Vader is #38 - Bespin and NOT the Hoth Vader as previously indicated by the rumor mill. 

Yay, another Vader!   ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on February 15, 2006, 01:26 AM
We got what 3 in 38 basic figures for OTC? I guess we are starting to see a pattern. ::)

I really wish Hasbro would slow down a wee bit. They aren't shipping the early waves out in great enough numbers, and Tatooine is already availible for pre-order.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 15, 2006, 01:49 AM
NK..slow down....

At least we get 2 army building sandies in the first case ass. for the wave :-\

Man o' Man I like that luke...Sweet!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 15, 2006, 10:22 AM
I'm very excited about this wave - the new Luke is very cool (I love the outfit and hope chest).

New droids are always welcome especially when their previous versions were sooo bad. 

The sandtrooper is an army builder and well done - and what can I say about Cantina patrons that hasn't been said already!

Is Han a rehash of the infamous Commtech Han or is he new?

(http://images.entertainmentearth.com//AUTOIMAGES/HS85770Elg.jpg)

And how could I forget the new Garindan and Hammerhead!?

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on February 15, 2006, 10:43 AM
Is Han a rehash of the infamous Commtech Han or is he new?

It looks like he is a kitbash of the Cantina Version.  He's got a new head, possibly a new/reused Vest (can't tell if it's the same from the TF pics or not), and then new stand.  That's about it.  The legs and arms definitely look like the same as the old ones judging by the articulation. 


Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on February 15, 2006, 10:47 AM
I'm really looking forward to this wave.  Its amazing to me when you look at a figure like Hammerhead, who wasn't terrible the first time around, and see how much things have improved since the POTF2 days.  The new Hammerhead, Garindan, and R5-D4 all look outstanding to me.  Hem Dazon looks nice, and is a welcome addition to the Cantina.  I'm also quite excited about the Luke.  I like the poncho, the head they used is nice, and the "hope chest" is a nice accessory.  Any form of Stormtrooper army builder is always welcome, and I still wish we'd see a "normal" Stormtrooper (VOTC one would be best) released this year.  They should just always be available.  I'll get the Han too, just because I'm a sucker for Han Solos, and I'll have to see about the Vader.  Otherwise, I plan on getting this entire wave, and maybe some extras.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ook on February 15, 2006, 10:50 AM
Its amazing to me when you look at a figure like Hammerhead, who wasn't terrible the first time around, and see how much things have improved since the POTF2 days.

Definitely. I still love that fig, but this one looks absolutely stunning! Cannot wait for him and the other aliens.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2006, 10:52 AM
The wave does look cool, but I kind of like the POTF2 Garindan better. I guess I am just not impressed by the cloth cloak, cloth goods are really tough to do on this small of a scale.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on February 15, 2006, 11:17 AM
I thought the same thing about Garindan - I've always been happy with my POTF2 version...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Morgbug on February 15, 2006, 01:49 PM
Well, the Battle of Tatooine wave is now up for Pre-Order at EE (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/aff-home.asp?id=JE-405087801&number=HS85770E):

Star Wars - The Saga Collection 3 3/4-inch Basic Action Figure Assortment Wave 5:
2x Momaw Nadon (Cantina Alien "Hammerhead", Saga #31)
2x R5-D4 (Saga #32),
2x Sandtrooper (Saga #37)
2x Darth Vader (Bespin Battle, Saga #38)
1x Hem Dazon (Cantina Alien "Goldeyes", Saga #33)
1x Garindan (Cantina Aliens "Long Snoot/Snitch", Saga #34)
1x Han Solo (Cantina, Saga #35)
1x Luke Skywalker (Tatooine Poncho and Hat, Saga #36)

Two Hammerhead and one Hem Dazon?  Shake your head boys. 

As for the Vader being in there, I guess the "parental" complaints about not finding Vader during ROTS really hit home with the Hasbro customer service folks.  My guess is they're trying to ensure a Vader is on the pegs at all times.  As an opener it's annoying, but I can see the point.  They're trying to hold onto those kiddies. 

Not sure if I'm going to order this assortment or not.  It's not bad at all, but not perfect.   :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 16, 2006, 08:57 AM
Any new wave that has just one of any character is a bad idea.  But I don't necessarily disagree with the Hammerhead:Hem Dazon ratio.  Sure, Hem (or Dem) is new, but Hammerhead is way more recognizable I think.  Even though we've had hammer twice before, something tells me he'll be in demand.  The Hem is really only recognizable in the head, not the GI Joe body ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: John C on February 16, 2006, 09:41 AM
This is the first wave where I will buy most of the figures.  The only two I will skip is Han and Vader.  I'm looking forward to the R5D4 most of all.  They did a good job on Luke's cloak. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on February 22, 2006, 07:04 PM
I do not feel this really deserves its own thread (and this was the most appropriate place to put this news), but Dan Curto from that other site has hinted that the Tonnika Sisters will soon be released.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 22, 2006, 07:33 PM
I do not feel this really deserves its own thread (and this was the most appropriate place to put this news), but Dan Curto from that other site  has hinted that the Tonnika Sisters will soon be released.

 ::) (will wait for the press release from the receiving exclusive authority)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 25, 2006, 12:27 PM
This is the first wave where I will buy most of the figures.  The only two I will skip is Han and Vader. 

I was about to write the same thing. I'm glad we finally got a grunt Sandtrooper though. Now all the sergeants and Lieutenants will have someone to boss around.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on March 1, 2006, 08:37 PM
I do not feel this really deserves its own thread (and this was the most appropriate place to put this news), but Dan Curto from that other site has hinted that the Tonnika Sisters will soon be released.

Yeah, is sure sounded that way.  I hope so.  I got it bad for those sisters for some reason. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Paul on March 13, 2006, 10:41 PM
Ok I can see TONS and TONS of the Sand trooper coming my way.   I have to go look at those Toy Fair pictures again!!!!!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on March 13, 2006, 10:44 PM
Ok I can see TONS and TONS of the Sand trooper coming my way.   I have to go look at those Toy Fair pictures again!!!!!

Yes, I'm gonna have to snag me one, too.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Vator on March 13, 2006, 11:01 PM
I think it's safe to say I'll be Army Building with the Sandtrooper. I'll take as many as possible, considering how low I am on VOTCs. Jawesome  8).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2006, 11:38 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/SandtrooperUnpaintedThumb.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/image.pl?http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/3-06/SandtrooperUnpaintedFull.jpg)

Clicky to see the full size image if you want... 

Super articulated Sandtroopers?  I think I just wet my pants...  Count me in for as many as I can find and/or afford.  Hopefully Hasbro actually ships the f'n thing unlike every Clone they've put out so far this year. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on March 13, 2006, 11:39 PM
I am wondering if this gives hope that the VOTC Stormtrooper might se a regular carded release then.  Or even better if they did variants of the Sandtrooper w/ all white armor - they you have your normal Stormies.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 13, 2006, 11:47 PM
I'd love it if they just sold him without the dirt paintjob but kept the same gear.  In my opinion there's no such thing as a "Sandtrooper" which EU supports to some extent.  The pauldrons are just parts of a the armor when in the field, and the modular packs are built to any specific planet's conditions.  Special uniforms only are applied in special circumstances (IE: Deep cold or actual "specialist" units like Scouts or Commandoes).

So with that in mind (for me anyway) I'd prefer it if they included pauldrons and packs...  I can set them up any way I like then and everyone would surely not mind the pack, stick, and pauldron extras...  Or if they really do mind them, send 'em to me?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on March 14, 2006, 12:29 AM
I always thought of the backpacks as cooling units, hence Sandtroopers as and actual specialization Stormtrooper.

BTW, deserts are a special condition especially under Tatooines twin suns?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2006, 12:43 AM
In military terms it's highly inefficient to make special units to assault a planet that, as we see in the films, basically anyone can and does survive on...  It'd be like making specialized units now to go into Iraq or Afghanistan...  We don't have desert combat units because it's not essential, just as we don't have true "arctic assault" troopers like Snowtroopers but we have mountain troops as a special unit...  In Star Wars terms it's more believable that snow planets would need specialists over just a hot planet. 

The reasoning on the packs is that they're modular clearly in the films...  They're not all the same.  It's reasonable then to assume that the frame can be fitted with gear specific for any situation.  A desert trooper configuration may consist of cooling units, water/hydration or whatnot.  A jungle/swamp unit may consist of something to adjust for the comforts of the trooper in a humid situation.  Or if, for instance, it's winter on a planet with varying seasons there may be heating units and such fitted to the pack...  The Snowtrooper gear may then just be the uniform of a trooper needing to drop into a deep, inhospitable world like Hoth...  It's also my belief that "snowtroopers" don't exist either though, as like I said it makes more sense that they change clothes over the Imperial fleets just happening to have all these large units of specialized soldiers readily available for assault at a moment's notice.

In EU the pauldrons and packs are worn by soldiers on a number of planets though, not just deserts, and I have a hard time buying a need for desert specialists, though any troop stationed there on a permanent or long-term basis would of course have a greater adaptation to the environment, but deserts aren't wildly different environments like, say, an underwater stormtrooper may have to deal with.  That would be a trooper needing specialist training atop the standard routine. 

Sorry to take this a little off-topic, just covering some EU theoretical ground.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2006, 12:57 AM
Woa! Where did that picture come from? Is it reliable? That would rock!

Edit: nevermind, I just found the source.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on March 14, 2006, 06:59 AM
Wow Hasbro might actually use that VOTC mold for regular releases?  I am stunned. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2006, 07:18 AM
Time to practice outrunning hotwheel dealers, tripping kids, and knocking over grandma's-  VOTC sandtrooper? WOOHOOOO!  (Please don't paint him like he's been cleaning up elephants at the circus)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2006, 08:10 AM
The thing of it is, the VOTC sculpt doesn't really cost them more to put back out there in circulation...  They just choose not to.  Any variance in costs compared to older sculpts is negligible really in the grand scheme of things.  It's simply better for us in a huge way, and hardly an effort on Hasbro's part, but sadly they choose not to do it (or they haven't for the most part thus far), and that's just been a bummer to me.

Stormtroopers have to get out there...  Not one-pers either, they just need Stormies, SA, out there at retail in good quantity.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on March 14, 2006, 08:59 AM
Oh believe me I never thought it cost more for them to put the VOTC stormies out there.  I figured they just wanted to have an excuse to jack up the prices whenver they released it on a card.  I guess they made enough from ROTS last year that they feal now they can rerelease them.  Ha-ha! 

Oh that would be a beautiful thing for them to release VOTC stormies at a regular price.  Maybe they can stick some Han and Luke heads on those VOTC stormies as well?  To bad they did not stick a Lucas head on the VOTC as well.     
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 14, 2006, 09:18 AM
The cautious side of me about the new news of this and the black Stormtrooper is that the guy who produced the photos registered that day. The only saving grace is that he claims he's from china and has the broken English it back it up.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on March 14, 2006, 09:26 AM
True...  The SDCC logo's fairly convincing too on that though from a customizing standpoint.

Everything's subject to change though...  as they say.  I'm guessing some legitimacy to it though for a number of reasons, the least of which being the unpainted figure with injection molding tell-tales you can't reproduce on a custom, plus with a little "wear" from handling by someone who didn't care too much.

I can completely understand caution though...  I'm the king of not wanting to get my hopes up on anything, so believe me I understand.  I'm hoping though...  :)  The Sandtrooper looks really nice like that.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on March 14, 2006, 10:29 AM
Are we pretty confident that that isn't a custom?  It looks hands down better than the Evolutions Sandtrooper - which looked pretty freaking good in its own right.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on March 14, 2006, 11:59 AM
Well..if it(SDCC bl. stormtrooper?) is and we spent several posts on the matter than we were fooled by a VERY good job(custom) if it is.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on April 4, 2006, 12:08 PM
Looks like RS (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Battle_OF_Tatooine_In_High_Rez_97883.asp) has some carded and loose pics of the Tatooine/Mos Eisley wave up now.  I wonder if that means these will be on the way soon?  I still need to find what I want from the Coruscant wave, but I'm really looking forward to this wave.  Even with the repacks, I think the cardbacks will entice me to pick up this entire wave regardless.  I should probably just order a case, since retail isn't exactly buzzing around here now :).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on April 4, 2006, 12:28 PM
Is that a new Luke headsculpt?

Link (http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2006/TSC-BAT--BAT-lukeponcho2.jpg)

. . .with brown lips? 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on April 4, 2006, 12:37 PM
I noticed that too, yikes.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on April 4, 2006, 12:47 PM
Hey and look! Its commtech Han again.  Yay!  Just looks like a new head sculpt.  Does he look different than the one shown at Toyfair?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on April 4, 2006, 01:05 PM
The only one I'm getting from this wave will be Momaw Nadon. I already have the Vinty and POTF2 versions, but I'm a big fan of the Ithorians, and this sculpt is a tremendous improvement.

I already have the POTF2 R5-D4, and IMVHO this isn't enough of an improvement to justify dropping $7 bucks on it. (Although I can see why others would differ!)

Hem Dazon and Garindan would be nice to have, but are not "necessaries". I can likely pick them up for cheap somewhere down the road; if not, I won't lose sleep.

Same for the sandtrooper--no matter how nice this version is, I have enough already. Must ... exercise ... willpower....

And I just plain don't need more Hans, Lukes, or Vaders.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 4, 2006, 01:18 PM
You can satisfy both urges.  Just buy every sandtrooper you see and send them to me.  I'll pay you for them so you don't lose any money and you don't have to fight the urge.  When you reconsider what you shouldn't have done, you have an instant out.  The world can be a very happy place and you won't have hard decisions to make :)

Red holograms ::)  I foresee all the colors of the rainbow...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on April 4, 2006, 01:20 PM
Luke - Been waiting for the poncho...maybe someday they will give us a moisture vaporator.  

Hem - I like the creatures so I get all of them at least once.

R5-D4 - Yeah, I like that one quite a bit.  I can now get rid of rocket firing version.

Momaw - My fav cantina creature so I'll get him. Plus it just looks nice to me.

Garindan - To nice of an improvement over the previous one.  I'll get him and probably get rid of my POTF version.  

Sandtrooper - Sucker for SA so I'll nab him if I can ever find him.

Han - No way I'll buy him. I know they want to shove another Han out there but geez.  They must have made a gazzilion of this mold at Hasbro.  

Vader - Nice accesories and card won't buy it though.  Oversaturated with nice Vaders.  Don't need him.  

I really like the carded samples.  Nice backdrops on most of them.  I am surprised they changed the colors on the holograms to red.  Blue, silver, and red now.  Yay!  
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 4, 2006, 01:31 PM
different colors holos for a game released later this year perhaps?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on April 4, 2006, 01:36 PM
The lack of articulation is really starting to grate now.    :(

Momaw Nadon: Always my favorite alien.  But he has the same articulation as his POTF2 counterpart (it appears) and that is just really poor at this stage in the game.

R5-D4: Finally, but it's been maybe too long.

Garindan: Looks great, but I don't need one.

Hem Dazon: Looks great, but there's something off about him.  I don't know what it is.

Sandtrooper: You think Scorch is hard to get?

Han: They can sneak a VOTC Stormie out but we get this thing over and over again?

Luke: Looks good, but I think I'm done with Tatooine Luke.

Vader: I think it's smart they're repeatedly refreshing Vader, but they should change up the figure.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 4, 2006, 01:44 PM
Vader: I think it's smart they're repeatedly refreshing Vader, but they should change up the figure.

That was my initial thought too, but at least they are re-re-releasing a very good version of Vader.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on April 4, 2006, 01:49 PM
Just to be a devil's advocate...

How about different shoulder pauldron colors for the sandtrooper for a variation? If were going to re-cast a bunch of bird-poop sized statues in a new color, why not a little paint app ala the clone craze?

Just because we haven't seen it yet doesn't mean it's not going to happen-
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Morgbug on April 4, 2006, 01:58 PM
Stop that >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on April 4, 2006, 03:16 PM
Actually, that's something I've been suggesting for years.

And actually, that would be enough to get me to buy them. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on April 4, 2006, 04:53 PM
Red holograms ::)  I foresee all the colors of the rainbow...

Just like Y-Wings, right?  ;)

It looks like that guy from China did have a real Sandtrooper. I cannot wait to get a few more of these VOTC Stormtroopers.

I love the rest of the Tatooine wave, as well. Except, of course, for Han Solo.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: John C on April 4, 2006, 05:04 PM
I will buy every figure from this wave not named Han or Darth Vader.  R5D4 is a must and that SA Sandtrooper is a nice surprise.  Actually, I am undecided on the Luke.  I wanted the figure because of the accessories, but the lipstick has got to go, Hasbro.  I don't really want a Brokeback Luke in my collection.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 4, 2006, 05:42 PM
Momaw Nadon: Coung me in for about 5 or so of this guy.  I love this sculpt and even though the articulation may be a bit lacking, I can live with that.  Looks like excellent custom fodder.

R5-D4: Looks good to me, I've never been overly crazy about this droid but I'd like a handful.

Garindan: Looks great, and the best of the bunch.  I hope he's a pegwarmer because I could see myself getting about 20 of them for customs.

Hem Dazon: I like it, will probably get about 5 of them.

Sandtrooper: If this was a regular Stormtrooper I'd be more excited, as it stands I still want a few.

Han: I'll probably get one just for the hell of it.  But just one.

Luke: Looks very nice, I'll take about 4-5 of them to replace my other Tatooine Lukes.

Vader: I guess I'll get one, it's always fun opening a new Vader.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on April 4, 2006, 06:09 PM
RED holograms? **** you, Hasbro. Now I'll have to get even MORE of these stupid things.

R5: Great fig, I'll pick one up just to have him.

Hammerhead: Only getting one. Awesome sculpt, but where's the articulation? Finger of Shame for using articulation money on those stupid holograms.

Hem: Looks good, and I'll pick one up, but again, where's the articulation? Another Finger of Shame.

Garindan: On the fence... he looks cool, but the articulation is the same as the POTF2 one. And where is his communicator? Bah, I'll get it anyway.

Han: What's with the crappy headsculpt? I already have a Commtech Han, and a superior VOTC Han, so PASS.

Luke: Crappy figure, but awesome accessories. Finger of Shame to Hasbro for making me pay $7 for accessories.

Sandtrooper: An Evolutions Stormie? Count me in for several. The winner of the wave, I just hope his joints aren't stiff as hell this time.

Vader: Accessories aren't cool enough to get me to pay $7.

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: McCusto on April 4, 2006, 06:24 PM
THE GOOD
           
           R5- Good, melikey a lot.
           Hem Dazon- This is the first cantina alien I will ever get, and it looks awsome
           Luke- It used to be excellent, now it is just at good, because of the lips. Good accessories, but Obi-Wan's saber is incorrect, probably due to Hasbro's laziness to recolor a little part of it.
          Sandtrooper- Anything that uses the VOTC Stormtrooper sculpt just screams "BUY ME!" to me. So I will, but only one. Or two.

THE BAD:
           
           Darth Vader- Bah. It is just the ROTS Vader sculpt. Really, the only vader I need is the Evolution's one. It is perfect.
           Garindan- It is a good sculpt, but I really don't like snitches  :P
            Han- It looked like he lost his neck and it got crappily sewed back on. Horrible. Plus, the new VOTC Endor Han will double as the ANH one for me.

THE ONES CUT DUE TO BUDGET PROBLEMS:
           
           Hammerhead- I really wanted him, but I am on a really limited budget this year, and, unfortuently I had to choose between him and Hem. I chose Hem, because he has a pistol, a holster, and a balljointed neck.  :P
           Garindan- I really did want to get him, but, once again, I had to cut him because of budget. And for being a snitch  :P


THE UGLY:


            Holograms- Red? Yuck! I used the blue ones for little mini-dioramas. But now that they are red, I can't. Damn!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on April 4, 2006, 06:27 PM
Garindan: On the fence... he looks cool, but the articulation is the same as the POTF2 one. And where is his communicator? Bah, I'll get it anyway.

Looks like ol' Long Snoot's got his communicator in this pic (http://www.rebelscum.com/tf2006/tf06-hasbroTSC/img_0072.jpg).

I'm down for this whole wave 'cept Darth and Han.

'Specially Arfive, though. . .
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: evenflow on April 4, 2006, 06:56 PM
I have one set of blue holograms, not goingt o go crazy getting a set of red ones as well. I think i will pick up all from this wave except Vader and Han.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on April 4, 2006, 07:10 PM
The red holograms shows how much Hasblow cares.  I thought the whole idea behind hologram was because holograms (blue) are seen/used in the movies.

Oh well ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on April 4, 2006, 07:56 PM
Garindan: Looks great, and the best of the bunch.  I hope he's a pegwarmer because I could see myself getting about 20 of them for customs.

Don't you still have hail damage to fix? ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 4, 2006, 07:59 PM
Garindan: Looks great, and the best of the bunch.  I hope he's a pegwarmer because I could see myself getting about 20 of them for customs.

Don't you still have hail damage to fix? ;)


Damn right I do, I have a ton of hail damage to fix.  But a few $7 figures are the priority, and hell this hobby is the one thing that always makes me happy (other than my wife of course).   ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on April 4, 2006, 09:09 PM
This wave is choice. SA Sandy? Hem Dazon? Luke with kick-ass accesories? I'll take em.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on April 4, 2006, 09:29 PM
Luke has some cool accesories.  I mean from the poncho to the nice sabers in old ben's trunk, heck he even has a popular shade of lipstick on...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 4, 2006, 09:45 PM
It's nice that the new photos expose new details. I can't get enough OT stuff, so I say bring it on.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2006, 04:53 PM
I really don't care about the red holos, I'm not collecting pack-ins.

I think we can safely assume that the majority of us think this is the best wave of the year.

This is the one wave that no matter who you are deserves two sets - one to open and one to keep carded!

 8)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ook on April 13, 2006, 01:05 PM
With Hasbro announcing Endor for August, do we have any news or idea of when Tatooine is due?? I'm afraid it'll turn up soon, and I'm choking on too many purchases already. *ack* I've spent too damned much money in the last weeks, AND Grievous and Senate BP are out already..... *ACK* :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on April 13, 2006, 03:25 PM
I think May is going to be Greatest Hits month, with refresh cases of coruscant shipping along side them. I don't think we'll see Tatooine before late May/Early June, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on April 13, 2006, 03:33 PM
As much as I am looking forward to the Tatooine wave (probably the most of any wave so far), I guess I'd be ok if it was a little ways off yet.  I know my wallet would appreciate it.  My greatest fear is that we'll get these "best of" assortments and they'll be clogging up the pegs along with refreshed cases and we won't see the next couple of waves - Tatooine and Endor - the two I've been looking forward to the most.  Hopefully that won't be the case.  The Revenge of the Sith stuff does seem to really sell, so maybe the combination of collectors and kiddos will really eat up those "best of" assortments.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 13, 2006, 04:21 PM
The ROTS mixes will sell.

When a case contains one each of twelve figures, it usually doesn't sit very long at retail.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on April 16, 2006, 02:07 AM
This is one of the better waves so far...  At least to me.

Hoth had the AT-AT Driver as the single really fantastic figure.  The GNK Droid with his nice "pack-in" buddy made for a good purchase too...  Veers and Derlin felt like you were paying too much for too little...  Derlin moreso.  The rest of the wave sucked pretty hard then since it was a whole lotta rehash and sorry kitbash.

Carkoon wasn't much better.  Bib Fortuna wasn't Hasbro's best foot forward in the figure world.  Han's so-so, but definitely could've been a better figure for the cash.  Again the wave wasn't a huge "wow" kind of thing where you were giddy at the thought of the figures you were buying, and this was to kick off a new direction for the line.  Ugh... 

Geonosis...  MOre of the same to me.  Poggle blows, Scorch was a letdown, the Utapau Clone was nice but ultimately I don't count him as part of the wave plus he's technically a rehash, Sun Fac is nice but underrated...  There was just a lot of blah in that wave, with repacks and whatnot, and nothing to get too excited over.

COruscant...  Cody's disappointed many (I yet to have found one).  I actually like Foul Moudama but he is only semi-new and has questionable support from fans due to his EU status.  Lushros Dofine is cool for what he is, but hardly anything to get excited about since he's in that "Senator-ish" category of boredom, nto to mention an alien species we've now seen the piss be beaten out of it...  The Utapau Clone's still cool, and yeah I want some, but still not something I'm going ga-ga over when I buy them, I just like having them to display.

Tatooine though you have interesting aliens, R5-D4 who's probably been the most wanted resculpt in the line for some time now, and hell even a repack like the Luke figure has been made interesting enough that people really want to buy it.  It's a good solid collector's figure, though we all own it and only want it for the cool **** it comes with.  That's genius on Hasbro's part and why the Gonk Droid ultimately is a hit to me too...  It's not "new", but it is...  And it's a droid so I want it.

R5's sorta similar to that too.  And I'm ok with that.

Tatooine isn't great to me, but it's not bad because of character choices.  The Arcona rocks, and Garindan was one of my top resculpt figures I think...  Both fall short in overall quality than what I want, considering we got a whole wave of Cantina aliens in 2004/2005 that had better articulation and similar features to the Arcona and Garindan, but still these are at least really appealing figures because of who they more than what they are.

Definitely a wave to look forward too, but I'm like some of you in that I wouldn't mind these being a little ways off.  I could use the recooperation time to get everything in order and just be prepared for these when they do ship.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 16, 2006, 08:58 AM
I have to agree with Jesse here that though I have many of the Saga wave this year, there are really only a few that "make the cut" so to speak. I think if I picked one word to describe the line this year it is regression.  The line has regressed from ROTS and that is a shame. ROTS showed what Hasbro could do if they wanted to and at very reasonable prices. Now, we have less articulation with alot of what Hasbro is famous for, rehashing or kitbash.
I'm excited for Tatooine, and am looking forward to everything but Luke, Han and Vader. However, I would love to see these hit in late May or June, but have a sneaking feeling that these will start showing up at Target's this week or next with the reset.
As far as availability, ALL the stores right now in my area are sitting on Geonosis, Hoth and Carkoon repack cases.  Most of the stuff is just sitting and if you can the DPCI for figures, most Targets have stuff  in the back. Problem is this is all rehash stuff that are in non-standard cases.  I know that after Tatooine, the only figure I am going to purchase is C3P0 from the Endor wave, maybe a Death Star Gunner. The rest of it is just not interesting to me and I'm looking forward to the break.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on April 16, 2006, 09:55 AM
I only care to get these to continue my MOSC set, because if I was just collecting for characters, everbody would be left behind except R2, Cody, U. Clones, Sun Fac, Poggle, & Sora Bulq.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on April 16, 2006, 03:49 PM
Poggle blows

 >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: John C on April 17, 2006, 09:27 AM
I have to echo what Jesse and BlackDog said.  Few of the figures offered so far have been must haves for me.  I passed on the entire Carkoon wave.  I only picked up Veers, the AT AT Driver and the Gonk from Hoth.  Geonosis was a crap wave for me.  I only bought Scorch, and he wasn't really worth it.  The only figures I bought from Coruscant was Cody, the Clone and Obi Wan.  Nothing else jumped out at me.  I just think Hasbro could have done better, especially with Carkoon and Geonosis.  Carkoon could have had a redone Jabba's Palace Luke with better hands and a soft good tunic and the Han and Bib could have been more articulated.  Geonosis could have given us a Jango based on the VOTC Boba and a Super Articulated Mace based off the Pilot Obi Wan.  A S.A. Padme in her white outfit would have been great, too.  Hopefully these figures are coming in the near future. 
I like the Tatooine wave and the Endor wave the most out of this year's stuff.  Hopefully Hasbro gets back to the higher standards set by the better ROTS figures from last year.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 17, 2006, 09:38 AM
I donno. I'm really happy with the line this year, even with the repacks since I don't have to get them ( or at least one to open) Saves money.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on April 17, 2006, 10:17 AM
I donno. I'm really happy with the line this year, even with the repacks since I don't have to get them ( or at least one to open) Saves money.

I agree here.  The money I save on crappy repacks is money I use for army building.  So I cannot really complain.  Someone out there is buying the Vaders, Snowtroopers, Poggles, Jango, Yodas, Anis, Obis, and the rest of the repack junk.  So product is moving, even if slow at times.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: McCusto on April 17, 2006, 11:15 AM
I donno. I'm really happy with the line this year, even with the repacks since I don't have to get them ( or at least one to open) Saves money.

I agree here.  The money I save on crappy repacks is money I use for army building.  So I cannot really complain.  Someone out there is buying the Vaders, Snowtroopers, Poggles, Jango, Yodas, Anis, Obis, and the rest of the repack junk.  So product is moving, even if slow at times.

 :o Are you saying that the Obi-Wan is repack junk?  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 17, 2006, 12:03 PM
I donno. I'm really happy with the line this year, even with the repacks since I don't have to get them ( or at least one to open) Saves money.

I agree here.  The money I save on crappy repacks is money I use for army building.  So I cannot really complain.  Someone out there is buying the Vaders, Snowtroopers, Poggles, Jango, Yodas, Anis, Obis, and the rest of the repack junk.  So product is moving, even if slow at times.

That's why I think Hasbro has finally hit a perfect product assortment/distribution model. They give the collectors new stuff while earning some extra cash by repackaging old figures that are virtually guaranteed to move. Even the best selling new figures are getting put back in future assortments.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on April 17, 2006, 03:42 PM
I donno. I'm really happy with the line this year, even with the repacks since I don't have to get them ( or at least one to open) Saves money.

I agree here.  The money I save on crappy repacks is money I use for army building.  So I cannot really complain.  Someone out there is buying the Vaders, Snowtroopers, Poggles, Jango, Yodas, Anis, Obis, and the rest of the repack junk.  So product is moving, even if slow at times.

 :o Are you saying that the Obi-Wan is repack junk?  :-X :-X :-X

Saying that Obi-Wan (pilot # 56 SA, super ultimate) is junk is blasphemy.  I was just saying he is a repack.  But he is the rarest kind of repack, a good repack.  Like SA ROTS clone trooper will also be a good repack and black clone pilot but still it is going to be a repack summer and I welcome the break.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 17, 2006, 04:03 PM
Good news for those of you who are caught up - Pawlus from GH has heard rumblings that this wave will be on the pegs before the end of the month!

After the Endor wave, what's left??

 ???
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on April 17, 2006, 04:05 PM
I saw that earlier as well.  I'm really looking forward to the Tatooine (and Endor) waves, so I'll be glad to see them, but that's not to say I couldn't use a break.  Of course, I'm not technically "caught up", still on the lookout for Cody, as well as the VTSC figures.  I don't know what's next after Endor, I think a TPM wave was rumored at one time - as well as a Death Star/Yavin wave - but nothing has been confirmed yet.  Hasbro's always so tight lipped with future assortments it seems, unnecessarily so.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on April 17, 2006, 05:40 PM
Great, I still haven't even seen the Coruscant wave...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on April 17, 2006, 07:24 PM
This thread has kind of gone towards an overall SAGA analysis, has it not?   :D

I'll play that game too.

Carkoon Wave - Ok wave, nothing too exciting about it, I think the Leia was outstanding, Han was ok and Bib Fortuna was a bit better than most people want to give Hasbro credit for.  The repacks... mostly passes for me.  Probably the worst wave so far for SAGA I think.  Just boring.  An all new alien would have been a nice addition, or even an Ishi Tib from Jabba's Palace...

Hoth - I have to say this was a lot better, the AT-AT driver is a superb figure, and I liked getting the new Gonk w/ Tredwell droid, a retooled Snowtrooper was nice but could have been better, and to me Derlin really isn't that bad.  Still though not a wave I went crazy on, but then again I did buy about 15 AT-AT drivers and close to 10 Derlins.  Veers I think was fine, but really would have been nice to have knee joints.  Really I still can't believe they re-released Rieken, I'll never figure that one out.  Overall a solid wave I thought.

Geonosis - I thought this was ok, to me Sora Bulq and Sun Fac are just awesome, some high quality sculpts with nice articulation, the Clone is cool to see too.  I think Scorch might be the most overrated figure in Star Wars history though, and the regular repacks were pathetic.  So this wave to me had some good mixed with a lot of bad.

Coruscant - I like this wave.  There are some repacks but it just seems like a much needed, fresh wave.  Love the Lushros Dofine figure... Firespeeder pilot is pretty good (not as good as I thought it would be)... Foul I do like a lot, and the Cody I think is actually a piece of crap other than the helmet... and the holo Ki Adi Mundi is just plan BAD.  But with the variety of figures, including a couple of main Jedi, I am ok with this wave. Plus it seems to be a fast seller.

Looking forward, I'm just fine with a couple of rehash waves coming out.  I'll probably be spending too much on the VSTC figures and a few other items I want for customs to be concerned with much until the Tatooine wave.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on April 17, 2006, 07:47 PM
Carkoon- I really only bought Bib on an impulse buy (It was the first TSC figure I had seen), but I think this wave could've benefitted from some new characters. Doallyn, Hermi, and Hoover would have been great additions to this lineup. It did have some really nice main characters resculpts, like Han, Leia, and to a lesser extent, Bib, but still a pretty weak wave overall.

Hoth- I really like this wave, Veers was simply excellent, the Power Droid was also a fantastic figure, and the AT-AT Driver and Derlin looked great too. Far better than the Carkoon wave. and even the repacks (R2, Vader, Rieekan) were good choices.

Geonosis- Great mixing in a EU figure, albeit a hard to find one, and great new sculpts (Sora, Sun, Scorch). Some of the repacks were good choices (Poggle and 3P0), but the last couple of repacks (Jango N Yoda) were weak choices, and Jango could've used a resculpt.

Coruscant- An excellent wave, it had a EU figure, two requested figures (Cody N Fire Pilot) and good repacks. Lushros was exceptional, one of the best TSC figures next to Veers (Although I may be a tad bit biased 'cause I'm a Neimoidian fan).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ook on April 17, 2006, 08:22 PM
Oh God, it's out soon...? :'(


P.S.  ****!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 17, 2006, 09:14 PM
Ouch! The end of this month? I hope that's wrong, but sadly, it seem accurate.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darby on April 18, 2006, 12:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see the Tatooine wave by the end of the month, but I would be a little irritated.  Let's get a chance to get caught up, Hasbro. 

As for my to date assessment of TSC:

Carkoon: Weakest wave so far and good thing it was only two weeks later the Hoth wave came out.  Leia is great, but the rest of them are lacking in some way. 

Hoth: Pretty solid all the way around.  The At At Driver is the star, obviously, and the Gonk wins in the ingenuity dept.

Geonosis: I'd say this one was weak too, if it didn't sell as good or better as the rest of them.  You can't find Scorch, or the repacks we feared (Jango is MIA) but still iffy on the articulation and character selection.

Corscant: Best wave yet, but Cody is only half way there.  Excellent choices except for Ki Adi and the #2 Anakin.  Evolutions!  Foul is my favorite. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 18, 2006, 12:44 AM
Late April would not surprise me or the 1st week of May. BBTS has em on pre-order for May, so the end of April sounds like the first hits to me.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 18, 2006, 01:04 PM
If people's first finds on Tatooine wave started trickling in 1 week from today, I wouldn't be shocked.  At the same time, I haven't seen any of that wave popping up on eBay yet, and I notice that the first sightings of the wave are usually within a week of the first eBay sightings.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 18, 2006, 02:14 PM
Well..I WOULD be shocked if it shows up BEFORE the saga/rots Heroes collection cases do. I think the heroes/villians cases are supposed to ship before this wave ..so, in the least I would say we see this heroes/villians rots figs maybe in April and no tatooine wave just yet-likely May
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on April 18, 2006, 02:22 PM
One thing to remember is that the ROTS Hits waves are shipping under a separate Assortment number, so it is possible that the ROTS Hits wave 1 and Tatooine wave will hit at the same time...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on April 18, 2006, 02:28 PM
Noooooooooo!  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 18, 2006, 02:32 PM
I decided to go with BBTS on this wave since it will hit when I am back on track teaching and I am very tired hunting things down. Don't take me wrong, I find what I want when I hunt (usually) but the time and gas is not worth it. That and I am taking some online classes for my Master's that I am starting so time really is a valuable commodity.  Here's what I paid; more than retail but by the time I include my gas, mileage/wear and tear, and hassle of running around, I know I can pass on the hunt and in the end, it really doesn't cost that much more except on the Sandtrooper:

Product ID Description Sub Standard Collector Subtotal
HAS11942 Wave 5 - Garindan   1   $8.99
 
HAS11944 Wave 5 - Hem Dazon   1   $8.99
 
HAS11946 Wave 5 - Momaw Nadon "Hammerhead"   1   $7.99
 
HAS11947 Wave 5 - R5-D4   1   $7.99
 
HAS11948 Wave 5 - Sandtrooper   1   $11.99
 
Subtotal: $45.95
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 18, 2006, 03:16 PM
I decided to go with BBTS on this wave since it will hit when I am back on track teaching and I am very tired hunting things down. Don't take me wrong, I find what I want when I hunt (usually) but the time and gas is not worth it. That and I am taking some online classes for my Master's that I am starting so time really is a valuable commodity.  Here's what I paid; more than retail but by the time I include my gas, mileage/wear and tear, and hassle of running around, I know I can pass on the hunt and in the end, it really doesn't cost that much more except on the Sandtrooper:

Product ID Description Sub Standard Collector Subtotal
HAS11942 Wave 5 - Garindan   1   $8.99
 
HAS11944 Wave 5 - Hem Dazon   1   $8.99
 
HAS11946 Wave 5 - Momaw Nadon "Hammerhead"   1   $7.99
 
HAS11947 Wave 5 - R5-D4   1   $7.99
 
HAS11948 Wave 5 - Sandtrooper   1   $11.99
 
Subtotal: $45.95


Does this include shipping?  If not, how much additional cost?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on April 18, 2006, 03:29 PM
BlackDog - your rationale makes sense.  With gas prices going up and the limitation of time, it's much easier for people like us to order online.

In my case, I order full cartons and sell the extras or open the army builders.  Problem is, nobody wants my piece of **** Hoth Vader leftovers.  Can't say that I blame them. 

It's the worst figure Hasbro has ever cranked out.

 >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 18, 2006, 04:28 PM
Shipping is like $5.49 going UPS ground (which is trackable) or $5.99 Priority USPS which is not trackable.  So I choose to go with $5.49. 

I have thought about cases, but in truth, unless I duplicates the extra $30 to $35 and the waiting is not worth it to me. On this wave I only want 1 of each, 2 of some if or when I find em at retail, and outside of the Sandtrooper, I think this wave will be much like Carkoon and most figures will be rather easy to find in time.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2006, 10:46 PM
I just saw carded photos of the sandtrooper.   :o  I can't wait to get a dozen of these desert bad-boys!!

While 2006 has had its' let downs (UGH speculators, poor retail support, increased prices, decreased articulation) I will put the AT-AT driver, Sun Fac, and Sandtrooper as 3 shining examples of Hasbro goodness. Tatooine and Endor (sans ewok) make me glad I'm still around buying toys. People who quit before now are going to miss some nice work.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on April 21, 2006, 07:49 AM
I actually ordered a case of this wave from EE yesterday. The case breakdown is
2x Momaw Nadon (Cantina Alien "Hammerhead", Saga #31), 2x Darth Vader (Bespin Battle, Saga #38), 2x Sandtrooper (Saga #37), 2x R5-D4 (Saga #32), 1x Hem Dazon (Cantina Alien "Goldeyes", Saga #33), 1x Garindan (Cantina Aliens "Long Snoot/Snitch", Saga #34), 1x Luke Skywalker (Tatooine Poncho and Hat, Saga #36), 1x Han Solo (Cantina, Saga #35). 
With shipping the case is like $93 which is like $7.75 per figure which is not that much more than what I pay to Target or TRU, or even Walmart. By the time gas and lost time is thrown in, I think I will be ahead on this. On downer is they will hit retail before I see this case from EE, but on the up side, I know EE will ship this case. I like the ratio's also (except they could have put in an extra Hem in and taken a Vader out. I'll admit it here, since I firmly believe the Vader is a rehash of the 500th Vader again, I'll take him back to Target using one of my figure receits there for $6.99. Other than that, I like the ratios of the case.
I'll also keep my BBTS order since I will know some people who will want em also.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: kesselrunking on April 22, 2006, 09:07 PM
Good news for those of you who are caught up - Pawlus from GH has heard rumblings that this wave will be on the pegs before the end of the month!

Sounds about right to me. It has been a new wave about every month, so we are due for them to hit any time. Keep checking ebay!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on May 10, 2006, 03:29 PM
Okay where are these guys?  For once I am caught up and have extra funds.   This has to be the biggest time between waves this year.  So what happened?  I kind of thought that these would be shipping alongside the Heroes and Villains Line but I guess not.  Have overseas suppliers received these yet? Bring em on.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 10, 2006, 06:41 PM
I'm hankerin' for a new wave myself. My money is on these showing up at Target within the next week. It feels like it's been too long of a wait when compared to the pace that has been set for previous waves.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2006, 09:24 PM
I still think we'll see this wave this month like I mentioned earlier...and.. I'm glad they didn't show up at the same time as that cursed HaV wave like Jeff said...The break was nice-it gave me room to spend on the gunship in the layover time. GH prediction about them showing before the end of April?--glad he was wrong! =Dollars saved in an expensive month!

The DS
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 10, 2006, 10:35 PM
Well, they've hit ePay.  We're about a week away from our first CA retail sightings:

(http://i5.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/c8/b0/ba_1.JPG)

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Saga-Collection-Mos-Eisley-33-Hem-Dazon-wave-5_W0QQitemZ6056522575QQcategoryZ2476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 10, 2006, 11:38 PM
Sounds like a presell - see the description again:


This figure will ship in June but I have been receiving my shipments earlier. If I receive it earlier, you will as well. You will not be dissappointed and will not find a more MOMC figure on Ebay! Feel free to ask any/all questions!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: DSJ™ on May 10, 2006, 11:43 PM
Checking out the past auctions of this seller...  :o

Damn, just damn! (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Saga-Collection-Mos-Eisley-33-Hem-Dazon-wave-5_W0QQitemZ6052768844QQcategoryZ2476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 11, 2006, 02:20 AM
This wave can just wait. VOTC, TRU Exclusives, Target Exclusives and H&V in the same month is way too much. End of May would be fine with me.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on May 11, 2006, 07:28 AM
Checking out the past auctions of this seller...  :o

Damn, just damn! (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Saga-Collection-Mos-Eisley-33-Hem-Dazon-wave-5_W0QQitemZ6052768844QQcategoryZ2476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

In about a month that moron could of picked up a dozen of them for that price.  That picture is a stock photo fora presell.  The buyer is going to be pretty pissed when that fig ships about the time these are on shelves and all his friends have already gotten one for $6.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 11, 2006, 08:30 AM

In about a month that moron could of picked up a dozen of them for that price.  That picture is a stock photo fora presell.  The buyer is going to be pretty pissed when that fig ships about the time these are on shelves and all his friends have already gotten one for $6.

Holy geez.  That is amazing.  $91 for a figure that's going to be shipped to him in June?  I really wonder who these people are that have $91 to blow on what might be a pegwarmer.  Sometimes I dither over whether or not to pick up a figure for $7, and I make a very nice annual salary.  Whew, talk about throwing money away.  The ******* could have gone to entertainment earth and ordered the entire case of 12 figures for that.

Sometimes when I see auctions like this I really think it's collectors with bogus ePay screennames out to foil scalper's auctions to get even with them.  However, in this case it's a totally legitimate buyer, with a sound history, who has been buying baseball cards for very reasonable prices
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 11, 2006, 08:39 AM
Sounds like a presell - see the description again:



Yup, you're right.  Normally I'm quite astute, but I didn't notice that.  Must have been the 3 days of food poisoning.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on May 12, 2006, 05:42 PM
On the Chinese Star Wars site, a few guys posted pictures of the Tatooine wave. I checked Ebay and some stores have them in stock.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 12, 2006, 07:47 PM
On the Chinese Star Wars site, a few guys posted pictures of the Tatooine wave.

http://chinese-starwars.com/chineseforum/viewtopic.php?t=4339

Those are stock photos that Hasbro produces, as far as I know they're nothing we haven't seen before.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nirvana on May 12, 2006, 08:15 PM
Umm...Well, farther down in the thread one user has pics of them loose...at least, the Sandtrooper and it looks like they reused the VOTC body, not the Commtech! Oh yeah! I just hope this is what we get...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on May 12, 2006, 11:27 PM
another in-hand auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Wars-Saga-Collection-Wave-5-BATTLE-OF-TATOOINE_W0QQitemZ6057073778QQcategoryZ93841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Well, someone will be wasting their money on these when they could find them all at retail for around $60 (eventually).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 13, 2006, 12:34 AM
I love this wave but yeah...need to wait for it to hit retail. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 13, 2006, 04:54 AM
I love this wave but yeah...need to wait for it to hit retail. 

Yeah, I love this wave also but I think I will wait for my case from EE on this one. I just do not have the time to hunt until July.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nirvana on May 13, 2006, 08:17 AM
I'm totally diggin' the use of the VOTC body for the Sandtrooper...this'll be the best version yet.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on May 13, 2006, 11:10 AM
I'm totally diggin' the use of the VOTC body for the Sandtrooper...this'll be the best version yet.

We have known about this for a while now, haven't we?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2006, 01:32 PM
That auction for 91.00 for Hem is incredible. And the sellers feedback is loaded with not following through. Where are these buyers when I have dog **** to unload...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nicklab on May 13, 2006, 10:03 PM
These bidders are nothing but impatient idiots.  I can't believe that there are still people willing to pay so much for a figure that's going to be widely available at retail.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: jokabofe on May 13, 2006, 10:22 PM
Hey, you never know. As far as "widely available at retail" goes, I'd have to argue with that. I have yet to see anything after the Geonosis wave yet, and even that wave I didn't see 100% at retail. Never saw Scorch, never saw the Utapau Clone... but I'm sure most people would say that it's widely available. I read stuff every day from people here and other forums finding stuff all the time, yet I can't find ****. And yes, I wake up at the crack of dawn on the weekends, and do my toy runs. And I still come home empty handed. I had to break down and buy a set of UGH figures on ebay because I haven't seen a single one anywhere. I've gotten a few via trades, but I didn't think I'd be able to score two full sets that way.

And yes, I said two full sets... one to open and one to display loose. Those stupid silver stands and holo's made me buy two sets  :-[

Maybe it's just me and my bad luck at finding stuff...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 14, 2006, 12:00 PM
$91 may not be such a bad deal if you factor in the gas prices these days... ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 14, 2006, 06:07 PM
Hey, you never know. As far as "widely available at retail" goes, I'd have to argue with that. I have yet to see anything after the Geonosis wave yet, and even that wave I didn't see 100% at retail. Never saw Scorch, never saw the Utapau Clone... but I'm sure most people would say that it's widely available. I read stuff every day from people here and other forums finding stuff all the time, yet I can't find ****. And yes, I wake up at the crack of dawn on the weekends, and do my toy runs. And I still come home empty handed. I had to break down and buy a set of UGH figures on ebay because I haven't seen a single one anywhere. I've gotten a few via trades, but I didn't think I'd be able to score two full sets that way.

Okay, but then by "widely available at retail" you can include the internet, which is as wide of a retail zone as it gets, trot on over to entertainmentearth.com with your $91, and get the WHOLE DAMN 12 FIGURE CASE FOR WHAT 1 HEM DAZON WAS JUST "WON" FOR.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 14, 2006, 07:40 PM
$91 may not be such a bad deal if you factor in the gas prices these days... ;D

Maybe if your driving a Hummer . . . . 

As it is, far better to order online right now IMO.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 17, 2006, 11:58 PM
(http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-036.jpg)   (http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-032.jpg)

(http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-033.jpg)   (http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-034.jpg)

(http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-037.jpg)   (http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-031.jpg)

(http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-038.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: MetalJedi on May 18, 2006, 12:05 AM
Those carded pics are awesome Chewie. Im really looking forward to R5 and the Aliens,Sandie. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 18, 2006, 12:31 AM
I like those pics... but just found out that they have already surfaced everywhere... damnit, I thought I was bringing new news to the table.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 18, 2006, 12:52 AM
I like the pics but I am hoping that they don't show up at retail until June 1st. Then again, why should I care? I have a case on order from EE so I'll only have to pick up a couple of extra's here and there . . . . as long as EE comes through but I have never been denied from them.

As for ordering online vs retail.  The EE is $91 for 12 figures. If you divide the $91 by 12 it comes to $7.58 a figure, which is not bad. If your paying $6.63 a figure and here in Utah I have a 6.6% sales tax, the figures for 12 come to $84.81 IF I buy all 12 at once ($6.63 x 12 = $79.56 + $5.25 tax = $84.81, a savings of $6.19). When I hunt I go around 100 miles, and my car gets 26 mpg in the city/stop-n-go driving so I spend $11.06 ie 100/26=3.84 gallons x $2.88 per gallon = $11.06 in gas where I live. For some of you the gas cost is probably more since gas is somewhat cheaper here in the Intermountain West.
So for my math, I am actually saving $4.87 iby ordering from EE. That does not count my time either which is usually 3 to 4 hours one night when I know Wally is getting stuff. For the Vader and the Han, I have receits from Target that I can use to return these items though I'll take a hit of $1.55 by doing that but according to my math, I am still ahead.
So, since I teach, I prep and grade before I come home, I have class 1x a week, and an online class Monday through Friday that requires 2 hours a night. Much easier for me to order online and WAIT for the case to come through.  That is the hardest part for me . . . to have the patience to WAIT for the online order to come when they are already at retail. It is a paradigm shift for me but one I am willing to do . . . . . at least in my mind right now. Hopefully I keep to my word when the wave actually hits.  It is hard to know you can get them on the hunt and have them, while waiting for on online retailer to come through. Then again, like I said earlier, EE has never failed me on a regular case. Anyone else have a different view or experience?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on May 18, 2006, 01:01 AM
I think I'll buy a Luke and do some pooling of different ANH Luke parts to assemble the stuff in places that make sense on my diorama (I wish- try vague display sitting on a blank shelf with some ships intermixed), rather than keeping the specific accessories all with the specific figure they came from.

I love R5-D4 - I really want to buy one.

The Sandtrooper is too good to pass up and too good for me to probably find- if I see him I'm so getting one (or more- I can dream) though.

The others are cool but I don't really need them, and so they're likely not going in my collection. Garindan is way cool as a figure, but it's Garindan- the POTF2 is all my collection truly needs on such a character, considering I already have it.

Even I, who somewhat like the figure itself, can hate that Vader though- no one anywhere will like him but kids who wanted a Vader and happened to find that instead of the Hoth version, and carded collectors.

Has 500th Vader broken Cantina Han and Falcon Mechanic Chewie's repack records yet? ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 18, 2006, 01:14 AM
I guess I ought to chime in my thoughts on order a case or not... this looks like it could be worth it.  According to EE, here is their breakout -

2x Momaw Nadon
2x Darth Vader
2x Sandtrooper
2x R5-D4
1X Hem Dazon
1x Garindan
1x Luke Skywalker
1x Han Solo

Of those, here's what I want for my collection (all loose) -

4x Momaw Nadon
0x Darth Vader
4x Sandtrooper
4x R5-D4
4x Hem Dazon
8x Garindan
1x Luke Skywalker
0x Han Solo

So, I'm automatically stuck with two Vaders and a Han that I have no use for.  Most of the others I want for upgrades of previous versions, plus some fun custom fodder.

If there weren't a total of three figures out of the 9 that I want, I'd buy a case.  But that makes it $10 per figure for me, so I'll probably pass at that price.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 18, 2006, 02:07 AM
I think I may actually pick up a Vader to open. I kinda want the little crates he comes with. And I don't have an opened 500th Vader so I guess I may nab one.

CHEWIE, only 4 sandies?

I think I'll pick up around a dozen of them.

4x Momaw Nadon
1x Darth Vader (maybe)
12x Sandtrooper
4x R5-D4
3x Hem Dazon
4x Garindan
1x Luke Skywalker (maybe 2)
0x Han Solo

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 19, 2006, 06:11 AM
I'm just buying what I see of Sandtroopers...  :)  Great figure.

I'm a little bummed on Garindan and Arcona for articulation but they're still 2 of the most interesting/anticipated figures this year to me despite lacking poseability (especially after the 2004/2005 Cantina Wave that really kind of set a standards bar a little higher and now, meh).  The Sandtrooper's amazing though, obviously, and so it's high on my list.

I'm really liking this wave...  They're gonna be hitting soon, but I could still use a break for a while.  At least the pegs aren't overflowing anywhere with stuff, well not too bad anyway, so these may show in big numbers.  That'd be alright.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on May 19, 2006, 07:31 AM
Where the hell are these figs ???  Besides the Heroes and Villains line, the Coruscant line came out 1.5-2 months ago?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 19, 2006, 09:20 AM
Where the hell are these figs ???  Besides the Heroes and Villains line, the Coruscant line came out 1.5-2 months ago?


Shhhhh! Their delay is good. :-X
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on May 19, 2006, 09:40 AM
Yeah, some of us just found the Curoscant wave.  In fact, I just only found Commander Cody.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: jedipurge on May 19, 2006, 01:32 PM
ya really i've still have yet to see  a Cody on the pegs, and have only just last week got a firefighter.  although i want this tatooine wave probably more then any of the others that have come out so far i could really use a break w/all the exclusives that've come out lately.  P.S. sandtrooper ROCKS.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 19, 2006, 03:05 PM
****...it looks like R5-D4 is a three-leg special...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on May 19, 2006, 03:14 PM
Three leg special? ??? The last I heard he was a reprint of VOTC/TSC R2D2 with a new head and paintjob, which means articulation at the neck, top of the legs, and "ankles," with a removeable third leg. All three "feet" have wheels on the bottoms, and he's got this oh-so-groovy glued-on panel.

So, R5 is good for doing whatever R5 does in the movie as well as portraying other, similar droids, or just playing with or whatever... which is cool in my book, far better than "Launchpad" R5.

I would actually buy a couple Hans for customs if I couldn't get the same figure with a different head for $3 or more less on eBay at any given moment.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 19, 2006, 03:26 PM
Yeah,is definitely the VOTC Sculpt with a new head.  You can see the panel lines in this picture (http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/5328-003.jpg).

So, unless they did something stupid like glue the leg in place, it should be removable...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on May 19, 2006, 04:04 PM
Hey! This R5 loks like his paintjob is better than R2, there are some details here that were blank n mine- like those bars on the third leg and the silver next to the "ankes." Glad to see that improved.

Though, the same smeared/streaked dirt seems to return here... oh well. I'm pretty happy with the looks of this figure overall :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 19, 2006, 04:19 PM
I think I may actually pick up a Vader to open. I kinda want the little crates he comes with. And I don't have an opened 500th Vader so I guess I may nab one.

CHEWIE, only 4 sandies?

I think I'll pick up around a dozen of them.

4x Momaw Nadon
1x Darth Vader (maybe)
12x Sandtrooper
4x R5-D4
3x Hem Dazon
4x Garindan
1x Luke Skywalker (maybe 2)
0x Han Solo



Yeah, probably just four or so of the Sandtroopers, since I have so many of the Evolution Sandtroopers.  Still though I might get more than four.

(http://www.andrewstoyzimages.com/products/NEW/06-037.jpg)

I just wish we'd get a Stormtrooper instead though, without dirt on him.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greg on May 19, 2006, 08:08 PM
I'm happy with the Sandtrooper. I like those troopers a lot more than regular stormtroopers, most likely because of the Sandtroopers extra gear and variety of weapons. They look like better infantry soldiers, too. I can see why you'd want clean stormtroopers. Taking off the gear for the sandtrooper doesn't help for that. Perhaps one will come out alongside the DVD's.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 21, 2006, 10:17 PM
I'm working on the complete gallery right now, but I was just too geeked out to not post this right away. Check out what is inside of Obi-Wan's storage trunk that comes with TSC Luke #36:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/036_Luke_Skywalker/tn_saga_luket_acc2.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/036_Luke_Skywalker)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on May 21, 2006, 10:21 PM
Woah! Nice find Jared! Are both of the light saber handles removable too?

Where did you get your sample BTW?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on May 21, 2006, 10:23 PM
I guess Ol' Ben kept his pilot headset after the Battle Of Coruscant.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 21, 2006, 11:16 PM
Woah! Nice find Jared! Are both of the light saber handles removable too?

Where did you get your sample BTW?

I cheated on this wave, Ryan.  ;) It's strange, but just Luke's is removable, but the Obi one is molded in there with the belt peghole still intact. I'm not too sure what the reasoning was there.

So, I take it the headsculpt is all-new? I tried comparing him to the EB version, thinking that was the likely match, and it's not it. The rest of the body is straight-up 1999 Luke, including the copyright date on the feet.

The complete gallery is up now if you click on the chest image up above.

J
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 21, 2006, 11:20 PM
Question. I have the Tatooine wave on order from Entertainment Earth. For those who have been ordering from them lately two questions.

First, what are the chances that EE receives sufficient quality to cover the pre-orders? Mine was at the end of March first of April. Guess I am worried after what happened to others with the UGH cases, but I am not overly concerned about that with this wave.

Second, lately when has EE been shipping versus product showing up at retail?  
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 21, 2006, 11:28 PM
For me, EE's had a great preorder track record. I'd think you're well within the window of safety, and usually they'll change an item's status to "pre-sold out".

Unfortunately they've been running behind the big retailers for a while now. I'm finding them averaging 2-3 weeks behind Target and Walmart on 2005 waves. It was almost on month of vTSC.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 21, 2006, 11:38 PM
Jared, thanks for the info. I checked my order and it actually was 4/19 and based on what you said I think I am still in the safety window.
I don't mind waiting 3 weeks after they hit retail if it means that I don't have to hunt em done. I'm so swamped right now that hunting has to take a back seat. To be true, as I've said elsewhere, it is cheaper for me right now to order a case from EE, then to waste  the gas to get the items. Here's hoping I see em by the end of June!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 21, 2006, 11:45 PM
Wow- Jared, as always, those pictures are great! 

Now I just have to find a way to rig up that training remote with this Luke and the Blast Shield Helmet from the FF Luke.   :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 22, 2006, 12:01 AM
Yeah Jared, great photos as always...  Highest quality on the net, far superior to what else is out there. 

That paintjob's iffy to me.  The head's paint just seems off to me, and I prefer the old Luke's paintjobs in the comparison photo.

The chest is really neat...  I like the details.  I guess the training remote isn't removable though?  That's a bummer.  I thought it was going to be...  :(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 22, 2006, 08:56 AM
Well I am going for the poncho anyway.  But yeah, that is odd to include those items molded into the trunk.  LOL.  What is the point of that?  Look I can not get those items out of the trunk.  Okay?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 22, 2006, 09:18 AM
Thanks for the pictures Jared. The accessories are enough for me to buy an opener. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Bobafett77 on May 22, 2006, 10:31 AM
Great pic, Jared! I'll be grabbing some openers of this set.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on May 22, 2006, 12:46 PM
Great pics, as always Jared.  Thanks for those.  I'm really looking forward to this wave, and although I could use the break from spending, I am ready to pick them up :P.  Its nice to see that the "lipstick painting" on Luke doesn't seem to be nearly the issue as it was when loose pics first surfaced of this wave.  The Luke overall looks pretty nice, and the poncho and other accessories look sweet too.  Looking forward to seeing more pics of this wave :).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Artoo on May 22, 2006, 07:44 PM
So are they out?I might have my friend look for R5 as well,with Cody & Biker.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on May 22, 2006, 08:12 PM
I'm not sure about Luke- I like the commtech body except the lack of wrist articulation, but I really don't like this head better than the commtech head. It's okay... but it's not amazing. The commtech head looks like Luke in ESB to me though, so it's not quite perfect for ANH either.

What really botehrs me about this head though, is that his lips seem to be brown- the same color as his hair. Why? ??? Why not leave them skin tone? As it is he reminds me of my old mid '90s-era Bend-em's Luke.

I could swear I'd seen pictures of commtech Luke that didn't have the boot paint on the knees like in the comparison picture... but if they all do, then that is a good point of improvement on this new Luke. Actually, other than the lips the paint is good as a whole.

The accessories though... they seem to really make this figure. The poncho looks very nice, and I love that box- the pilot headset is a wonderful little touch, and the training ball thing is appreciated as well (although I would've liked a removeable one even better).

But the lightsabers aren't as cool as they could be; Obi Wan's should be removeable, and Luke's is kinda... simple. There's no paint, no hole, and it doesn't fit on his belt... I wouldn't complain about owning it but it's not the epitomy of awesomeness either. I would've liked to see an ignited saber or a removeable blade here, too- heck, just reprint the saber from Evolutions Anakin and it'd be cooler.

He looks kind of cool, but buying it isn't too high on my priorities list :/ R5, though, I'll be getting as soon as I can afford to I think.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 22, 2006, 09:03 PM
So are they out?I might have my friend look for R5 as well,with Cody & Biker.

Not yet. Jared has a "connection."
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 22, 2006, 11:37 PM
Wow!

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/5-06/tn_saga031.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/031_Momaw_Nadon)

The articulation sucks, but that sculpt just blows the old one away!    :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/031_Momaw_Nadon/tn_saga_moma_comp.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/031_Momaw_Nadon&image=saga_moma_comp.jpg&img=&tt=)

I love the fact that he's now wearing some pants instead of the short-shorts.   :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 22, 2006, 11:41 PM
Quote
The accessories though... they seem to really make this figure.

Yeah, I really think the accessories do push him into must-have territory. I've been wanting a poncho forever, and that trunk is just too cool. They really did put everything in that was needed to pull off another Tatooine Luke rehash. The only accessory that disappoints me is the saber (which does have black paint on the grips, although barely). It's not a huge issue though since 10 billion ROTS Anakin rehashes leaves plenty of better sabers to replace this one with.  :)

The figure itself is just sort of "meh" to me. I like the headsculpt for the most part. The articulation, though, is just outdated by the six-plus years since the figure's first release.

I'm slowly working through opening the rest of the figures from the wave, as well. So far I think Garindan is the winner as far as new figures goes, and R5 has a cool surprise in him (easy to guess, but cool that they did it nonetheless). I'm not as pleased with the SA Sandtrooper as I thought I would be once he was freed from the packaging (though I imagine I'll be in the minority in that sentiment). Momaw looks great but has 1998 era articulation, and Hem is just knee joints short of being on the level of the 2005 Cantina Aliens wave.

Han and Vader remain entombed in their rehash vessels for now. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 22, 2006, 11:57 PM
Nice! What I reall like is the smirk. Gives him character.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 23, 2006, 12:14 AM
Jared, great photos of the new Momaw Nadon...  The figure's actually really true to the West End Games miniature in its pose and the staff and such...  That's kind of cool in its own right.

That stand he comes with is really cool too...  That's a better accessory than an oversized hand cannon for sure. :)

That said, I am highly disappointed in the articulation...  6 points total...  For $7?  Come on Hasbro, sheesh...  That sucks.

Great sculpt, an improvement no doubt over either sculpt...  Not a figure I was clamoring for a resculpt on though, so I'm a little disappointed to see Hasbro only improved the looks and didn't make this a better toy...  This year's continuing its trend of underwhelming toys and pretty statues. 

I will say though, it'll be nice displaying this Momaw with his past incarnations.  It's like the VTSC Greedo figure...  i don't feel compelled to retire the others, but instead just slip them in as background Rodians.  The same will go with Momaw here...  The past two sculpts are so different they'll make good background Ithorians while this new Momaw will be the Hammerhead in my bar.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 23, 2006, 12:27 AM
Here's a shocker... Garindan is pretty cool! Notice that the radio fits into a holster on his left hip.

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 23, 2006, 12:35 AM
Jared, awesome pictures! I would say of any wave this year, this is the one I want the most, and your pictures turn up the heat!

A friend today said he got called and told that the wave had hit in So. Cal. but I've seen no post anywhere on this (it hit a Wally in So. Cal.).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 23, 2006, 01:11 AM
Damn... these could already be hitting???

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 23, 2006, 09:19 AM
Garindan is Sweet!

BTW, how did you get the picture to show up outside of your post?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 23, 2006, 09:56 AM
Damn... these could already be hitting???

Not quite yet.  As Anton said...

Not yet. Jared has a "connection."


And,

BTW, how did you get the picture to show up outside of your post?

That is one of our Moderator abilities...   ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 23, 2006, 10:09 AM
Oh man...I can't wait for this wave. Sure, they're not the most articulated figures in the world, but how much action do you really need from Hammerhead? Unless of course you're making a Rorron Corrob figure, but then you would need to use a body with more clothing anyways.

Garindan is awesome too, but it looks like he's a straight leg wonder...Oh well, all he needs to do is snoop anyways.

Jared, way to go with these pics. Actually posing a figure accurately including softgoods is so important in this hobby (in my opinion) and you do it really well. The photography is excellent. I wish Hasbro would hire someone—cough*you*cough—to do their product shots. Well done.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 23, 2006, 10:12 AM
Great shots in there Jared. I can't wait to get them as well.  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2006, 11:30 AM
More great pics Jared, thanks so much.  Although the articulation on Hammerhead might be lacking, that sculpt sure is amazing.  I never thought the older versions were too bad, but that comparison pics really shows that the new one blows them away.  Garindan is shaping up nicely too, and that's another one I never picked up in the POTF2 days, so I'm happy we're getting him.  Can't wait for this wave.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 23, 2006, 11:46 AM
Not only does Hammerhead seem to be nicely sculpted, the paint application is very impressive.  I really like the "wash" that he seems to have.  8)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 23, 2006, 01:33 PM
Thanks a lot for the comments on the pics, guys, I really appreciate it. :) I'll get Garindan and a weaker one like Solo up tonight.

I'm a little bummed that Momaw's articulation is so out of date, because he just looks so much better than the previous versions, and I've been a fan of the original sculpt for a long time, so it's all the more impressive to me. If this one had knee joints so he could sit down he'd be my favorite cantina alien. What I don't understand is how he got so short changed when Hem Daxon and Garindan got ball socket shoulders, swivel elbow joints, and swivel lower leg joints (Garindan's boots rotate at where the boot meets his pants).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 23, 2006, 02:31 PM
Looks like they are hitting in SoCal. A kid found them at his Target.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 23, 2006, 02:39 PM
Nice! Hopefully someone can confirm with a receipt shot soon.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 23, 2006, 02:41 PM
Jared-- try cruising our Socal thread..maybe you can PM one of the 2 guys for it?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: kesselrunking on May 23, 2006, 05:40 PM
This wave hit RC Target this morning with one case. A friend of mine got them and is giving me some of his extras. Thanks ICE!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 24, 2006, 03:12 AM
I put up the Garindan and Han shots tonight. Still love Garindan.  :)

034 Garindan (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/034_Garindan)

035 Han Solo (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/035_Han_Solo)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 24, 2006, 04:15 AM
I gotta admit, Garindan's not bad...  I still am always baffled by swiveling boot articulation but no knees...  I mean, what's the point?  It's the same as ankle articulation but no knees.

Either way though, Garindan has features VOTC/VTSC Han's both should've had, a separate legstrap for the pistol holster.  I love that...  :)  Too bad the Han's don't have it because that's perfect.

I like that they re-used Tessek's gun.  I don't mind pistol re-uses like that and that's a gun we haven't seen again since Tessek I believe.  So that's pretty cool I think...  The lack of knees sucks, but the inclusion of a cloth cape is great to me.  I'm surprised they ran with that.  Not often they use cloth on basic figures afterall. 

And the communicator on the belt?  That's just amazing detail. :)  Now we have a communicator accessory for a hoped for future Luke Stormtrooper resculpt...  He has to come with that.

It's nice to see that Garindan's arm articulation is on-par with what the basic line's standards should be too.  He's a step up from Momaw who lacks a LOT of articulation.

Oh and the headsculpt is great...  One flaw beyond the knees though is the goggles don't come off.  :(  I'm a little bummed by that because I'd hoped to see a complete Garindan sculpt there...  Be neat to see hte species' looks without the goggles.

Anyway, Garindan may be my favorite in the wave...  It's a figure that REALLY needed a resculpt too, unlike Momaw who I honestly could've lived with what we have, especially given that they didn't improve it beyond the sculpt details.  Sculpts great, articulation's just excuseless though...  It's not a matter of what these characters do, but what kind of toys they should be...  Hasbro's still years behind other companies with this line, so that's what's disappointing me.

Garindan's on my positives list though, I like that one.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 24, 2006, 08:53 AM
Yeah, Garindan is a great looking figure.  I love that Hammerhead figure as well.  Especially after seeing Jared's loose pics.   I am just looking forward to the entire wave really. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 24, 2006, 08:58 AM
"What are you looking at?!"

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/031_Momaw_Nadon/saga_moma_c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on May 24, 2006, 09:08 AM
Awesome pictures once again, Jared. That Garindan just jumped to the top of my wants list. Hammerhead looks great, but I join Jesse James in asking where the articulation is? Even something like swivel elbows would make it that much better.

Luke and Han are meh... I'm really only getting Luke for the accessories. What is it about Hasbro not being able to sculpt a good Mark Hammil head? This one is decent, but Hasbro still has a ways to go.

Jared, is Luke's floppy hat the same as the one that came with the Flashback Luke?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on May 24, 2006, 10:07 AM
Either way though, Garindan has features VOTC/VTSC Han's both should've had, a separate legstrap for the pistol holster.  I love that...  :)  Too bad the Han's don't have it because that's perfect.

I like to think they put that leg strap on Garindan because they read your "Cons" in the VOTC Han (http://www.jedidefender.com/reviews/votchan.php) review.  At C3 they did admit to reading (and loving) your reviews, so we'll give you credit for that one Jesse.   ;)


Man, I am loving that Garindan.  Can't wait for the Hem Dazon pictures!   :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Sentinel on May 24, 2006, 10:34 AM
I'm glad the Sandtroopers are VOTC Sculpts! ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 24, 2006, 11:56 AM
wow... I wonder how anyone would keep their POTF2 version over the new Garindan... if this figure is a pegwarmer (which actually wouldn't surprise me) I'm going to try and get a lot for custom fodder.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on May 24, 2006, 12:39 PM
Well, I'm KEEPING my POTF2 Garindan because I'm a collector, and I'm nuts!  ;D I'll also get this one!  Excellent figure.  Is that a holster for his communicator?  That's nuts!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 24, 2006, 12:48 PM
Well I only meant if someone were to not get this one because they have the old version.  Of course though some people aren't as crazy as we are.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 24, 2006, 01:45 PM
So, I'm wondering more and more about Han, and what exactly it is about the sculpt that Hasbro seems to love so much that he is considered their ideal basic line Han sculpt. Especially enough so that they would go through the effort of popping a new headsculpt on him. If they took that step, why not go a step further and kitbash the vTOC versions?

It seems that they want a generic version of core characters that they can continue to ship, like they're doing with Vader now putting him on new cardbacks. If they're going to do it with Han, they should fix that wonky left arm and the outdated leg articulation, and at least he'd be serviceable.

Jared, is Luke's floppy hat the same as the one that came with the Flashback Luke?

Its definitely the same hat, though it is noticeably white while the original is beige. The lenses on the goggles are narrower, too, because they've painted the surrounding frames over the original goggle sculpt area. I don't know if its really an improvement or not, but I like the white plastic better.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 24, 2006, 01:48 PM
why not go a step further and kitbash the vTOC versions?


Laziness.   

Reference the piece of **** known as Hoth Vader. 

"Hey, let's keep Vader on the pegs for the kiddies.  Great idea!  But make sure to use the one mold (out of fifty) that cannot hold his lightsaber and has a removable helmet that doesn't stay on his ****** head!"




Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 24, 2006, 04:42 PM
That Hammerhead is great, can't wait to add him to the cantina!  Now, this isn't a criticism, but isn't his head supposed to be even bigger and especially wider than it is here?  I'm pretty sure in referencing for my current Cantina dio that his head is just ginormous!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nathan on May 24, 2006, 10:00 PM
Due to tightening monetary conditions and space (I can't take all this crap into my dorm next fall and I question the wisdom of buying stuff only to leave it in my parent's basement indefinitely), the only one I'm getting from this wave will be Hammerhead.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on May 24, 2006, 10:19 PM
Great pics, Jared. It's nice to see the new figs and get an idea of how they'll be before buying them. I know I'll be looking forward to this wave now. I'll probably get all but Luke and Han... yeah, Luke comes with great accessories, but until they can get a good head sculpt of Mark Hamill I'm hesitant.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Mitsukara on May 25, 2006, 12:47 AM
Quote
wow... I wonder how anyone would keep their POTF2 version over the new Garindan... if this figure is a pegwarmer (which actually wouldn't surprise me) I'm going to try and get a lot for custom fodder

Yeah, but that's $7 on Garindan. Garindan. He's awesome and I love the holster, but I really can't bring myself to buy it instead of other things my $7 would inevitably go for. Maybe when I have more money or if I can find a loose one later on...

I mean, with $40 at the most to spend a month, I really kind of have to limit all Star Wars figure buying a bit :(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 25, 2006, 01:26 AM
Thanks Jeff...  Ya know, honestly, I'd not even considered the thought they took my gripe about the thigh-strap for the holsters into consideration and it's cool if it is the case...  I'll gladly take credit for it because I am a jerk afterall. :)

It looks better I think too, and the holster wont' magically stay still while the thigh-strap moves all over the place when posing him.  Fantastic!  I just wish the Han's had gotten it as they are better articulated afterall.

STill, I love Garindan...  To me, besides the Sandtrooper, which is pretty perfect IMO (I love the stick...  It's not even accurate to the films is it?  It's just like this nice bonus they gave us) I think that Garindan is the winner in the wave...  R5's nice, Hammerhead's an improvement but he's hardly a step up in quality to me...  Luke's poncho kicks much ass by the photos (looks like it sits just right) and the hope chest of Ben's is neat...  Han blows.

Garindan and Sandtrooper steal the show, and to me the Sandie only wins based on articulation.  If Garindan had knees, he'd be my number one...

A close 3rd to them is Hem Dazon...  While he's been my most wanted Cantina alien, I'm disappointed in the articulation.  It's really tough to see 3 Cantina guys (counting Garindan) like this when in 2004/05 we got the Cantina Wave of figures that ALL had angle-cut elbows, swivel wrists, ball/socket knees, and then the basics for articulation...  Those were standard-setting actionf igures to me.  NOt perfect, not super articulated, but the ultimate in a compromise between fans and Hasbro.

You got great articulated figures overall, and sure they didn't do much but stand around, but you got some good quality toy out of your cash you spent...  Not statues.  Momaw's complete lack of articulation and the lack of knee joints on the other two just bothers me a lot.  Hasbro can do better and at this point for this price I think they owe it to us personally.  It'd just be nice to see a standard like that set, and then subsequently maintained throughout the line's life.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 25, 2006, 11:30 AM
Nice Hem Dazon photos. Good sculpt there... though I wonder how he gets those huge feet through the legs of those "ball-hugger" pants he's wearing.  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 25, 2006, 12:10 PM
The figures look awesome I am totally in to getting them all except for Han/Vader.

To get really nit picky I have to say I am a bit dissapointed that the articulation is lacking. If Garandin had knee articulation he would be a perfect 10!
Hammerehead is really lacking, the sculpt is superb but he has POTF2 style articulation. anyone else a little bothered by this. For the higher price tag at least stay on par with Sith. ???

Still really nice sculpts, I will have to get an extra Hammerhead to paint Vintage style with the blue shirt. He was my favorite figure when I was a kid.....
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on May 25, 2006, 08:24 PM
For those of you complaining about articulation, I look at it this way.

Hasbro was expecting the line to end in very much the same way it had after Return of the Jedi. Why invest more time and money into something that you expect to fail? Therefore, Hasbro designed these figures with failure in mind.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 25, 2006, 08:59 PM
I really don't buy that, Shawn.  One of the biggest toy companies in the world expecting their toys to fail?  Especially after they extended the license for over ten years?  I think it's simply that you have different sculptors working on different characters, with decisions made on how feasible extra joints would be, or look on the figure.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 25, 2006, 09:05 PM
E.T.?!    :P

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/033_Hem_Dazon/saga_hem_c1.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on May 25, 2006, 09:07 PM
Well, I think it is plausible. Regardless, I do not see how articulation is such a huge issue with figures like this. If a main character, depending upon the costume, is not given a lot of articulation in a new sculpt or a trooper, then I will be mad. I do not really set up dioramas, and if I did, I wouldn't really be angry about certain figures not being able to sit at the cantina. Momaw Nadon and Hem Dazon certainly did not.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 25, 2006, 09:36 PM
I do not really set up dioramas, and if I did, I wouldn't really be angry about certain figures not being able to sit at the cantina. Momaw Nadon and Hem Dazon certainly did not.

Momaw Nadon "certainly did not" sit at the cantina?  How sure are you?

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4RtW3ZEvF0A1TSjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=13gisljci/EXP=1148693741/**http%3a//www.nonsolomartelli.net/Guerre%2520Stellari/Alieni/La%2520Taverna/Momaw%2520Nadon.jpg)

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4bNW3ZED7EAK6WjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTA4NDgyNWN0BHNlYwNwcm9m/SIG=12b8cfvfc/EXP=1148693837/**http%3a//www.premier.net/%7eexar/PAGE2/STARWARS/ithor.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 25, 2006, 09:44 PM
Even if they didn't, which they clearly did, it'd still be nice for Hasbro to give us complete articulation for the $$$ they're charging for it.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on May 25, 2006, 11:07 PM
Momaw Nadon and Hem Dazon certainly did not.

Have you seen SW ANH?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 25, 2006, 11:20 PM
Well at least they did not include a chair with them. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Scott on May 26, 2006, 12:27 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/hem2.jpg)

Hem was seated at the same table as Bom Vimdin, Braniac and Arliel Schous
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 26, 2006, 01:13 AM
Knees?  They had knees?   ;)

I agree, I want knee articulation on all figures.  When they don't give it to them, it's not going to keep me from buying them, but as an opener who loves to set up dioramas, Hasbro limits what we can do when they do this.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on May 26, 2006, 02:09 AM
First off, the Hem photos are great and I really love that he has an all-new blaster sculpt to FINALLY give us an accurately sculpted/scaled Ponda Baba blaster.  This is especially cool to me because Ponda's pistol was a common Rebel blaster on Hoth too so I consider it sort of the second "Rebel Blaster" behind the one seen used by the RFT's and Death Star Troopers...

That said, about articulation, I think everyone's said what I would in reply to JediShawn's points... 

That's fine you don't "play" (pose, whatever) with your toys like some of us may do, but the fact remains they are toys nonetheless and Hasbro charges a lot of bones for these little action figures comparatively speaking to other toy lines.  So from a competitive level that's one reason I think Hasbro can do better by the fans for articulation.  Hasbro's behind the times on articulation while other toy lines are decades ahead, literally in some cases.

The next point I'd make is that Star Wars figures have gone from as low as $5 to as high as $7+ in the span of a couple years...  That'd be fine and dandy by me if EVERY figure leaped in quality and Hasbro's "standard" or bar they set for action figures was matched by 90% of them...  I'm leaving 10% for "Senators" and other type figures that have a long plastic skirt piece or robe that inheritly inhibits articulation...  But on Cantina aliens, when we got 3 at the tail-end of 2004 with 12 points of articulation as a minimum, I'm as disappointed in seeing lacking articulation as I am when we get a Commtech Stormtrooper recarded instead of the VOTC...  Hasbro CAN do better for $7+ a figure, so why not expect it out of them?  I mean, one doesn't settle for buying a brand new car these days without an air conditioner in it, ya know what I mean?  You paid the same for the car as you would for one with it, so don't you deserve the A/C unit?  It may run fine without it but I'd want it.

I'm a firm believer that even if a character stands around for 2 seconds of screentime, that doesn't mean articulation SHOULD be shorted.  In actuality, the only way I feel articulation should get shorted is when, as I noted earlier, a robe/skirt piece interferes...  Softgoods on everything is asking a lot, so I'm cool with say Mas Ameda not having leg articulation for the sake of his outfit...  Though I do think a cloth skirt would be cool, cloth's a costly expense itself, much less cloth on top of articualtion...  But anyway, when nothing's there to interfere, I do think that wrists, knees, and elbow articulation are ALL must-haves for a new "standard" to this line.

For Momaw to lack all 3, well that just sucks...  And it's a flaw on Hem Dazon and Garindant then as well, though obviously they're better than old Momaw there.

But yeah, anyway, that's my thinking on it...  I firmly believe Hasbro can do better, and a character's place in the films shouldn't dictate whether he gets 6 or 16 points of articulation to me...  It should get something better than articulation we saw in 1995, and barely better than what we got in 1978 (focusing on Momaw here, but the thought applies across the line IMO).  I just want a better toy that's more fun to open, play with, and enjoy...  To me that's better not just for me as a collector with a kid's heart, but for kids who enjoy the line as well.

As far as Hasbro throwing their hands in the air and saying it's a dead line, I don't agree with that at all...  Not just for the contract extension but for the fact LFL's got plans for Star Wars...  Hasbro won't abandon anything so long as there's money to be made.  If they honestly thought this was dead, there wouldn't have been a wave a month till May this year...  You'd see far less being offered I think.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 26, 2006, 02:20 AM
I agree with you Jesse, completely. 

Jedishawn, I disagree with you on this, but your opinion is still valid, even though most of us are in disagreement with you on this. 

Most of us are just kids at heart and want to get the most possible... for most of us, this will be our 4th Hammerhead... (vintage, POTF2, SAGA Cantina, and now SAGA2) - with how long we've dedicated our collecting life to Star Wars and put so much money into it, I think we deserve to get the articulation we want on these.  The sculpts are now there in my opinion... but I think they can include articulation too that we want.

Plus like Jesse said, they did it with the POTC cantina figures, and it's damn nice that they did. 

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: roron corobb on May 26, 2006, 03:53 AM
Jesse, you said it and I don't think I could have said it any better. I totally agree, but I can't pass up on the Momaw Nadon. He looks awesome and Ithorian rock, but again yes Hasbro did short change us on him with articulation. If he didn't look as good as he does I wouldn't be getting him. On the other two they could have added ball-joints to the knees with very little work. If you look at other toy lines that are big with everyone they all have great articulation, because kids don't want action figure that are statues. That defeats the purpose of the title action figures. Sometimes I think Hasbro is a machine that  can't be reprogrammed and is always making bad mistakes then repeating them, that is why we keep getting the short end of the stick with them. Look what they did with the 3 3/4th GI Joe line. They tried that before with changing the scale, and we all know what happened with that. The only smart thing they did was keeping the 3 3/4th scale line around, but only on-line which is bad.
roron corobb
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 26, 2006, 08:59 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/hem2.jpg)

Hem was seated at the same table as Bom Vimdin, Braniac and Arliel Schous

Now that I see the production photo of Hem, I think Hasbro dropped the ball. They totally got the body wrong. Where's the guy holding the head on the stick? ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: John C on May 26, 2006, 09:52 AM
I'm liking the useable holsters on these figures.  I always wanted my figures to have them since I opened my original Hoth Han.  I used to tape the blasters to the legs of my figures back in the day to make my own holsters.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on May 26, 2006, 10:31 AM
More pics of Garindan make me want him soooo bad!!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on May 26, 2006, 10:39 AM
Hem Dazon has been the one figure I have looked forward to forever.  I hate to say it, but I am kind of disappointed with the body.  Dont get me wrong, Its a great sculpt and everything but it was not how I had pictured the character in my head for the last 30 years ???  I thought it would of been more alien-like and less human shaped. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on May 26, 2006, 10:40 AM
Well, I've always pictured his body as...um...well, I guess I never really pictured it, so this body is suitable!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 26, 2006, 11:08 AM
I'm fine with the body sculpt they used, seems fitting for the character, and most of the creatures in the cantina had a humanoid shape anyway.  It wasn't really until EP1 that Lucas started with the more nimble and odd body designs, which he wanted to do with his new digital technology.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Angry Ewok on May 26, 2006, 12:41 PM
I don't really like his space suit that much, but... that's just ol' psycho me.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on May 26, 2006, 12:55 PM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/4-03/hem2.jpg)

Hem was seated at the same table as Bom Vimdin, Braniac and Arliel Schous

Now that I see the production photo of Hem, I think Hasbro dropped the ball. They totally got the body wrong. Where's the guy holding the head on the stick? ;D

 :D :D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gorkoracing on May 26, 2006, 03:02 PM
I know its a little late since they've started showing up now but heres a pic of my mock up production sample sandtrooper

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/Gorkoracing2/2542026b.jpg)

Its on an atat driver cardback with a powerdroid insert and a blue boba mini holo
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/Gorkoracing2/a491ca23.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on May 26, 2006, 09:35 PM
This wave is available and in-stock at SciFiGenre (http://www.scifigenre.com/itemList.aspx?sid=VGLGYVYV0LRKRMJ&nSubCategoryID=202&nExpandToID=2945) if your interested
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on May 27, 2006, 01:00 AM
You guys wanna hear an ultra-picky complaint about the new R5-D4?

They didn't paint the three back panels red (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/032_R5-D4/saga_r5_1b.jpg).

How is it that Kenner got it right almost thirty years ago, but it's been neglected in all three modern incarnations (POTF2, 12", and Saga 2)?

That kinda **** bugs me.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on May 27, 2006, 10:15 AM
I probably would not have noticed that about R5-D4.  Yeah, that is kind of funny they missed that.  At least that is an easy custom to perform.  Even I can pull that off! 

Hem - I am just glad they made one.  My only gripe is the goofy bent legs.  They kind of did that with the wolfman several years ago.  Oh well, I still want it. 

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 27, 2006, 10:41 AM
I don't really like his space suit that much, but... that's just ol' psycho me.

Me too.  I really pictured this guy with farmer's robes or a cloak rather than a spacer's outfit, but theoretically he could have been wearing anything (including a human's body up to the wrist :P).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: ruiner on May 27, 2006, 01:36 PM
You guys wanna hear an ultra-picky complaint about the new R5-D4?

They didn't paint the three back panels red (http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/032_R5-D4/saga_r5_1b.jpg).

How is it that Kenner got it right almost thirty years ago, but it's been neglected in all three modern incarnations (POTF2, 12", and Saga 2)?

That kinda **** bugs me.

Because they Kenner guys rocked.  They practically invented the 3 3/4 figure.

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ghost of QG on May 27, 2006, 01:55 PM
Found these today at 3 Targets in Kansas City!!!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 27, 2006, 02:33 PM
Donno why, but I forgot that R5 had a pop up motivator, so when I saw it when I opened him, I got excited all over again.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on May 28, 2006, 12:56 AM
Nice to see that this wave looks like it won't be hard to find. I am resisting the urge and just hoping that EE comes through with my case!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 28, 2006, 02:11 AM
Found these today at 3 Targets in Kansas City!!!

Awesome, guess I need to hit some targets in STL tomorrow if I have a chance!

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: jedipurge on May 30, 2006, 11:47 AM
scored big time on these over the weekend.  went to wal-mart, one that through most of ROTS had sqaut so i had virtually stopped going there, scored 1 luke, 2 Hem's, 2 Garidan's, 2 Firefighters.  There all on layaway of course cause it was like $50 at Wally's higher prices.  there were plenty of hem's, garidan's, luke's, & of course han's left over.
no R5's, Mowma's, or Sandies to be seen.   
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 30, 2006, 10:00 PM
I saw a Sandtrooper today, but another collector beat me to it. He had at least 15 figures I'd say in his cart.  I tried looking in his cart to see what he had and think there was a Hammerhead in there and I saw a couple more Garindans and Hem Dazons and a Han Solo... didnt' see an R5 or Luke though.  He had tons of the Great Hits Clones too.

I was lucky to get a Hem Dazon and a Garidan, opened them both and was really happy.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on May 30, 2006, 10:03 PM
Aren't they great? Those are the 2 I got. I am very satisfied with Garindan. My one and only problem with Hem Dazon is that his swivel elbow joints really make it to where you can't put him in a good pose. I don't know why he's the only I've felt this way with, But I would have rather they gave him ball joint elbows.

Garindan is just perfect. It's my favorite TSC figure (I'm not counting the VTSC) thus far.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on May 30, 2006, 10:48 PM
I agree, Garindan rocks.  One of my favorite figures in a while.  If he had articulated knees, he's be perfect.  But still he's one hell of a figure!  Hem is nice too, but I think Garindan is better.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on May 31, 2006, 09:17 AM

I like that they re-used Tessek's gun.  I don't mind pistol re-uses like that and that's a gun we haven't seen again since Tessek I believe. 

Actually, Tessek's gun is different...

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/potj/tessek/lf2.jpg)

Although is does look similar. I think Garindan's is all new.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2006, 09:41 AM
Garindan's is all new.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on May 31, 2006, 06:57 PM
So has anyone else found the Sandtrooper's backpack to be prone to dropping off if a faint breeze hits it, or is it just mine? I can't keep that thing on for the life of me.

I might have been too harsh on this figure being called a disappointment, I suppose. I just wish that he had the appropriate utility belt.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 31, 2006, 08:16 PM
Is the back pack all new? Does it still have a slot to hold a blaster and perhaps the monocular?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on May 31, 2006, 11:12 PM
Found this wave today!  Very pleased, but forgot all about the Sandtrooper which seems to have been picked out of the wave.  Strangely, there weren't any Hans to be found.  I didn't get the Luke, although I think he looked great in the package.  It's just that I have a cloak on another Luke, and this one's headsculpt looks nice but not particularly like Hamill.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2006, 12:37 AM
Ah yes, that is a new gun...  However there is a pre-existing sculpt of it that MIGHT be larger...  I don't think it's the same size...  Anyone know where that pistol is from originally? :)  You get absolutely nothing for the right answer except the knowledge you're as nerdy as I am... 

Definitely a different gun though, my mistake. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 1, 2006, 09:29 AM
NFC just added pre-orders for this wave, but said they're expecting to get shafted somewhat by Hasbro. ???
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 1, 2006, 09:36 AM
Ah yes, that is a new gun...  However there is a pre-existing sculpt of it that MIGHT be larger...  I don't think it's the same size...  Anyone know where that pistol is from originally? :)  You get absolutely nothing for the right answer except the knowledge you're as nerdy as I am... 

Definitely a different gun though, my mistake. 

Naboo Accessory Set?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: evenflow on June 1, 2006, 09:57 AM
Still nothing here, all i see are Power Droids filled on all pegs.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 1, 2006, 11:42 AM
Ah yes, that is a new gun...  However there is a pre-existing sculpt of it that MIGHT be larger...  I don't think it's the same size...  Anyone know where that pistol is from originally? :)  You get absolutely nothing for the right answer except the knowledge you're as nerdy as I am... 

Definitely a different gun though, my mistake. 

Naboo Accessory Set?

Yes and no. Good catch BTW.

Garindan's gun is definately a scaled down version of the gun in that pack. However, it's also modified as the scope sits high above the Naboo version, not close to the barrel like Garindan's.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 1, 2006, 04:04 PM
Exactly...  It's weird they went with that design actually.  I don't quite follow the reasoning of it, but hey whatever.  It's a "new" gun technically and welcomed.  Hem Dazon's is the best though.  The ponda baba/rebel soldier pistol needed a resculpt.  Now we have that little beast that they re-used a bit in to-scale fashion for the line.  That makes this scale nut a happy camper. ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Sentinel on June 1, 2006, 05:43 PM
Got 2 Sandtroopers today! ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 2, 2006, 10:09 PM
The only figure on the pegs was the santrooper.  What gives?  I expected Vader, Luke and Han to warm from day one.  Oh well :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 2, 2006, 10:51 PM
The only figure on the pegs was the santrooper.  What gives?  I expected Vader, Luke and Han to warm from day one.  Oh well :-\

All I've seen is Garindan twice and Hem Dazon twice... I am wondering if stockers are putting out some partial cases if the pegs are already mostly full?

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 2, 2006, 10:56 PM
Dont forget there are not even counts like 2 of each. Cody, Firespeeder and Snowtroopers are shipping with them with red holos.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 2, 2006, 10:59 PM
I was just surprised since I did not expect to get a sandtrooper on day one.  I usually get all the figures I want without any trouble but not the 1st time out.  Now I want about 5 of these guys.  The shoulder paldroun is perfect for painting ranks.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 3, 2006, 01:33 AM
I found a lone damaged card Garindan at my local WM...  I also learned a guy at the store buys them to sell on Ebay.   ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nirvana on June 3, 2006, 07:58 AM
I found a lone damaged card Garindan at my local WM... I also learned a guy at the store buys them to sell on Ebay. ::)

Hmm...so it looks like they're starting to hit in Pittsburgh...maybe I'll have to be on the lookout.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 3, 2006, 02:43 PM
I did a 165 mile round trip toy run this morning, hitting 5 different Walmarts out in the sticks... found every figure in the wave except for the Luke.  Almost caught up.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on June 3, 2006, 03:12 PM
I did a 165 mile round trip toy run this morning, hitting 5 different Walmarts out in the sticks... found every figure in the wave except for the Luke.  Almost caught up.

 :)

165 miles? :o

Talk about dedication, the most I've ever done is probably around 40. I still have yet to see any sign of this wave out here in Denver.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 3, 2006, 07:17 PM
It was ridiculous, I'm never going on a run like that again.

But, I did notice a variant on the Hammerhead... popped off both of their heads and they had a different neck peg.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 4, 2006, 06:23 PM
Well, I'm still looking for a Sandtrooper, yet I can't seem to find one. I'll be going to a lot of stores this week, though.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 4, 2006, 06:34 PM
Another thing that flew over my head, I just noticed that the monocular that comes with the Sandtrooper is the cylinder on the back of his belt. It's a great feature, but I'm more than annoyed that both the backpack and the monocular can't be attached at the same time.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 4, 2006, 07:38 PM
Has anyone IDed the debris that comes with Vader? One looks like the one from Obi Wan (Kamino Showdown)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 4, 2006, 09:05 PM
I haven't seen it yet,but I haven't gone out in a while so mayben soon.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 4, 2006, 09:27 PM
I remember hearing that the debris is newly sculpted--but I may be wrong. I'll have to see one in person to find out 4 sure.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 4, 2006, 10:02 PM
I was looking at it today in Target.  One of the pieces does looks like that.  I'll have to track down my kamino obi to be sure.  Another piece looks like the square musical instrument that the fan club exclusive cantina member brought (it looks like it but is not).  I do not recall the 3rd one or if there were more in the bubble.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 5, 2006, 03:16 AM
Anton,

The item is an explosive pack, or so EU/books go...  Not a monocular...  At least I've never seen anything list it as that.  It's supposedly a little bomb/grenade doodad.

I'm happy to get one really, but yeah since past Sandies came with it on the belt and the pack fit, I'm not sure why they didn't just do that?

Hasbro's weird like that.  Why make a NEW backpack for htis figure?  You have at least 2 good sculpts of the Stormtrooper's field pack available to you, why not use them instead of a new one?  Or is this not new?

I haven't picked him up yet...

Anyway that should be a butt bomb on there, though I guess it does look like a monocular too, but that thing's listed as a bomb everywhere I've seen, so that's what I'm going with. :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 5, 2006, 09:19 AM
Why make a NEW backpack for htis figure?  You have at least 2 good sculpts of the Stormtrooper's field pack available to you, why not use them instead of a new one?  Or is this not new?


The backpack is just a repaint of the Evolutions backpack and the Evo-Sandie doesn't have that explosive device. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 6, 2006, 12:21 AM
Has anyone IDed the debris that comes with Vader? One looks like the one from Obi Wan (Kamino Showdown)

Some one at RS has identified with pics that the one piece is from the Kamino set like you mentioned, while another piece is from the Hoth accessory set with the kitbashed Hoth rebel troop.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 6, 2006, 12:42 AM
Some pics of Saga-038 Vader's luggage:

Vader Box #1 on the Left, Saga Hoth Accessory Set Box on the right:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/vader_box1.jpg)

Vader Box #2 on the Left, Saga Deluxe Obi-Wan Kenobi (Kamino) Box on the right:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/6-06/vader_box2.jpg)

Vader's box #3... well, that one has me stumped.   ???
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 6, 2006, 09:34 AM
It would seem like a typical Hasbro move to make that third accessory brand new, just to tempt some of the more extreme people into buying yet one more Vader.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 6, 2006, 09:40 AM
It is probably "slag" from the molding process of a ton of different **** from the Hasbro Factory. Some joker just picked it up off the floor and said. "Yep, looks like a Bespin projectile to me."
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Roton7 on June 6, 2006, 10:22 AM
I'd bet it's some sort of GI Joe accessorie or something like that.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JesseVader08 on June 6, 2006, 11:44 AM
It is probably "slag" from the molding process of a ton of different **** from the Hasbro Factory. Some joker just picked it up off the floor and said. "Yep, looks like a Bespin projectile to me."

I think you're confused.  That's how they made the Yoda figure.  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 6, 2006, 11:47 AM
It is probably "slag" from the molding process of a ton of different **** from the Hasbro Factory. Some joker just picked it up off the floor and said. "Yep, looks like a Bespin projectile to me."

I think you're confused.  That's how they made the Yoda figure.  ;)

 :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JediShawn on June 6, 2006, 03:43 PM
Anything look familiar to you guys?  ;)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2/hasbro_2003_rebeldlx.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 6, 2006, 03:56 PM
WOW! You've won a free oven mitt!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 6, 2006, 04:13 PM
Anything look familiar to you guys? ;)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2/hasbro_2003_rebeldlx.jpg)

Of all the stuff in that picture - the landing lamps, the ladders, the figure, etc - the thing they choose to finally release is the little box.   ::)

Sure would be nice if those ladders made it out in some form eventually.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 7, 2006, 02:11 AM
Yeah the ladder on the right looks perfect for the A-Wing...  :(

Funny that this is a piece from this figure though...  Now I sorta want that Vader figure simply because I haven't picked it up (didn't open my 500th either) and now he has a nifty new box!  Ooooooo
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 7, 2006, 09:33 AM
JediShawn, you rock! Great detective work.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 7, 2006, 12:19 PM
I agree - I had totally forgotten about that old accessory pack that was never released... I wish they'd make that now, with a new rebel technician... come on Hasbro... you can do it!

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on June 9, 2006, 05:09 PM
I was looking over the TSC Han Solo page at RS, and do you know how many times this figure has been released in one form or another?

"9 times..."

(http://stu.westga.edu/~blesesn1/uploaded_images/ed%20rooney-777624.JPG)

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2006, 05:30 PM
"9 times..."

Nine times?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on June 9, 2006, 05:35 PM
9 times...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on June 9, 2006, 05:40 PM
9 times...

Two times.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 9, 2006, 07:00 PM
Well they at least changed it up this time, a new head and better paint job is better than having the same thing again.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth Broem on June 9, 2006, 07:49 PM
I actually thought it was more than 9 times.  I did like that picture they had though.  Even if it was from the dreaded RS  :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on June 11, 2006, 07:53 PM
I'm sure it's been covered already, but could someone who knows post one more time which mold this vader is based on?  And other than the accessories, is there anything new about it?

Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jayson on June 11, 2006, 08:16 PM
I believe it is based on the 500th Vader only difference is the silver shoulder armor damage and the helmet is glued on. It is exactly the same as the #013 Hoth Vader again with the helmet dome glued on.

Oh, one more thing with the previous 2 releases you could take the cape off, but again since the dome is glue on, the elastic band won't fit over/around it so it's not really removable any longer.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 11, 2006, 09:28 PM
I actually just ordered this wave from EE... I already have them all, but love each and every figure in this wave (except Han, which I don't have yet).  So a case of them will be ok, I can use many for customs.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 11, 2006, 09:33 PM
I saw a Han yesterday at Wal-Mart, but the box was trashed and the Holographic figure was stolen. Anyone else encountered something similar to this?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on June 11, 2006, 09:56 PM
Have to agree on the case from EE!  Love this wave! Only compliant so far is the whiteness of the Sandtrooper's foot when compared to his entire body. It looks like Cinderalla's slipper so white and shinning after walking in the sand . . . .
Other than that, great wave!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 12, 2006, 12:08 AM
I saw a Han yesterday at Wal-Mart, but the box was trashed and the Holographic figure was stolen. Anyone else encountered something similar to this?
Hmm..probally some stupid kid.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 12, 2006, 12:34 AM
I saw a Han yesterday at Wal-Mart, but the box was trashed and the Holographic figure was stolen. Anyone else encountered something similar to this?

I've seen some narfed holo's lately.  I'm not sure why...  Usually accessories are msising too but the figure is there, which just makes no sense.  Steal it all ya know?  Worse is the half-assed tape-job the employees do to put it back on the pegs...  For god's sake do a send-back you lazy bonehead.

Rob, I do believe jaybird's right that it's the 500th Vader...  again.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on June 12, 2006, 08:30 AM
I saw a Han yesterday at Wal-Mart, but the box was trashed and the Holographic figure was stolen. Anyone else encountered something similar to this?

I've seen some narfed holo's lately.˙ I'm not sure why...˙

Probably someone wanting to get a set of red or blue chess pieces for their board.  ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on June 12, 2006, 08:39 AM
I bought a full case off the floor this past Saturday.  The box was not open and was mint.  Upon opening, every figures bubble was crushed on the top ??? 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 12, 2006, 09:16 AM
The box was not open and was mint.  Upon opening, every figures bubble was crushed on the top ??? 

I've been there. That's not fun.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 12, 2006, 10:56 AM
Jim, if you don't want those Sandtroopers due to crushed bubbles... I know a collector named CHEWIE that would be interested in them.   ;)

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: jedipurge on June 12, 2006, 11:53 AM
chewie, that's funny because i know a guy named jedipurge that'd be intrested in them as well.  ;D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2006, 11:45 PM
I believe it is based on the 500th Vader only difference is the silver shoulder armor damage and the helmet is glued on. It is exactly the same as the #013 Hoth Vader again with the helmet dome glued on.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Ryan on June 13, 2006, 12:04 AM
Damnit. I still haven't seen this wave yet. I saw one single Solo one day last week and that has been it so far.  :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 13, 2006, 03:28 PM
I scored 6 sandtroopers at Target yesterday.  I opened 2 of them up, and I love that this is the VOTC stormtrooper with dirt.  Minus the backpack and pauldron, these work great as dirty stormies for an Endor dio or the like. 

Good thing, because 1 of these sandtroopers did not come with a backpack!  I opened it very carefully and it did not drop out or anything, it was never there. 

I have 8 POTJ sandies and 12 from the Evolutions sets, so I have my fill of sandtroopers anyhow.

These Tatooine wave stormies will be displayed devoid of all sandtrooper gear.

Love the butt bomb.

Lastly, I think the black pauldron looks pretty bad anyhow.  Orange, grey, and white look pretty good.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on June 13, 2006, 06:27 PM
Found R5, Hammerhead, Luke, Han, and Vader today. I picked up R5 and Hammerhead, but passed on Luke because I didn't bring enough cash thinking I wouldn't find anything. Stupid me. Luke looks even better in person, so it was really hard to put it back.

EDIT: felt like taking some comparison pics that Jared didn't...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/r5comp3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/DiddlySquat/r5comp4.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 12:30 AM
I've only found one Sandtrooper so far... I'm hoping to find at least a dozen - but at this rate it's not looking good.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on June 14, 2006, 01:47 AM
Just got the one and only wave i can afford this year and I'm very impressed overall by these guys. Hem Dazon is everything I'd hoped he'd be as is good ol R5-D4. I gotta say though i am really blown away by the improvments to Garindan and Hammerhead, both are such an improvment over thier previous incarnations. Overall I love this wave and it was well worth the money spent. Now if we could just get Bom Vimdin made, I could probably be satisfied if they stopped making Cantina guys. (That doesn't mean I want em to stop, i'll keep buying any patrons they put out, even the most insignificant sounding ones.) Bring em on Hasbro! oh and how about that U end of the bar?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: starkid500 on June 14, 2006, 02:06 AM
havent seen a fricken sandie >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 14, 2006, 02:45 PM
I've probably been to Walmart and Target a total of 50 times in the past month looking for Sandtroopers... scored two more today, bringing my total to 5.

I agree with Dressel, they work great as Endor Stormtroopers.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: evenflow on June 14, 2006, 07:51 PM
Anything look familiar to you guys?  ;)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2/hasbro_2003_rebeldlx.jpg)

I wish they would release some of these guys.

I love the chest that comes with Luke. I wish the accessories came out though.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: speedermike on June 14, 2006, 09:57 PM
I'm glad they never released that set above.  Look how buff the guy is, AND  his pants are wrong.  Those guys wore long bants over their boots.  I'd rather no figure than an incorrect one.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 14, 2006, 10:28 PM
I'm glad they never released that set above.  Look how buff the guy is, AND  his pants are wrong.  Those guys wore long bants over their boots.  I'd rather no figure than an incorrect one.

But those accessories... I'd pay $10 for those easily.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Rob on June 14, 2006, 10:41 PM
So about this varient with the cups for the Cantina figures... do we know which one is the varient and which one is the corrected version yet?

All of mine have blue glasses.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2006, 11:07 PM
So about this varient with the cups for the Cantina figures... do we know which one is the varient and which one is the corrected version yet?

For both Hem and Momaw,

BLUE cup has the earlier date stamp.
CLEAR cup has the later date stamp.

So, they started Blue, but are being changed to Clear.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 15, 2006, 12:24 AM
I wonder why, unless it was just to cut a very miniscule paint ap out of the mix?  Clear'd be the (oh so very slightly) simpler in production...  Unless perhaps the paint ap to the cup itself is leaving residue on the figure's hand or some such...  It happens from time to time.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Clone Hunter on June 15, 2006, 05:50 AM
Well, were thay actually drinking the blue milk in the cantina?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 15, 2006, 09:25 AM
Well, were thay actually drinking the blue milk in the cantina?

If I were a smuggler or other assorted low life, and if I actually drank, the last thing I'd be ordering at a cantina is milk, blue or otherwise. Unless Beru had a drinking problem. :P
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on June 15, 2006, 06:22 PM
Well, clear cups will help with diaramas. Some of those aliens quickly finish their drinks so Wuher can pour them another.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2006, 10:04 PM
I just checked the Entertainment Earth site to see if this wave has arrived yet (I ordered a case as soon as they went on the site). It now shows a ship date of July...
I hope they didn't underestimate the demand on these figures as badly as they did the UGH-   ::)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 16, 2006, 09:31 AM
Man oh man, Hasbro just cannot get the likeness down on Tatooine Luke, particularly the head.  Just look at this series of disasters:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tsc036lukecomp.jpg)

From the left: Looks too old, on crack, on crack, on crack, stoned, doesn't look like Luke.

This is a wonderful rendition of what 40 wasted collector dollars looks like. 

I think I bought the first version, and laid off the next 5.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 16, 2006, 10:01 AM
No one, Hasbro, Sideshow, midicom..., no one seems to be able to get Mark Mamil's head sculpt right.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: P-Siddy on June 16, 2006, 11:09 AM
No one, Hasbro, Sideshow, midicom..., no one seems to be able to get Mark Mamil's head sculpt right.

I actually thought that the Hoth Attack Luke was pretty good... though most of his head is covered and his face a little Wampa-mauled.

But I agree, how hard is it to get Mark Hamill correct, or even close? That's why I've avoided buying Luke most of the time. Hasbro seems to have problems with Natalie Portman as well.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 16, 2006, 11:40 AM
No one, Hasbro, Sideshow, midicom..., no one seems to be able to get Mark Mamil's head sculpt right.

I actually thought that the Hoth Attack Luke was pretty good... though most of his head is covered and his face a little Wampa-mauled.

But I agree, how hard is it to get Mark Hamill correct, or even close? That's why I've avoided buying Luke most of the time. Hasbro seems to have problems with Natalie Portman as well.

Mmm, yup.  Leia too, for the most part.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Matt on June 16, 2006, 12:11 PM
Man oh man, Hasbro just cannot get the likeness down on Tatooine Luke, particularly the head.  Just look at this series of disasters:

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tsc036lukecomp.jpg)

From the left: Looks too old, on crack, on crack, on crack, stoned, doesn't look like Luke.

Yeah, but the first five are basically the same exact headsculpt, are they not?  Really the only differences between them are the paint apps. 

There's also the first POTF2 Luke, Early Bird Luke, VOTC Luke. . .  You could even throw in the POTJ Luke X-Wing, which is a ANH-era headsculpt. . .  None of them have captured Hamill's 1976 face particularly well. . .
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 16, 2006, 02:00 PM
I gotta go with the VOTC Luke... looks pretty good to me.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on June 26, 2006, 03:01 PM
I don't know if anyone is interested, but as of a half hour ago or so, HasbroToyShop.com had the Tatooine wave (minus Sandtrooper, of course) in stock on their site.  $6.99 each.  I went ahead and ordered what they had in stock, since there hasn't been any signs of these locally and the price is pretty much in line with what retail charges at this point anyways.  Now I just have to hope I can find a few Sandtroopers :).  Anyways, just thought I'd pass it along if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on June 26, 2006, 03:44 PM
I have a wall of Vader at my WM.  10 Hoth Versions and about 8 of the Tatooine (Bespin) Wave version.  BTW, why was this Vader included in this wave? 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 26, 2006, 04:29 PM
Because it is 2006, the year after the year of the Vader.  I think Hasbro's plan is for every household in America to have a 500th Vader. :-\
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 26, 2006, 04:34 PM
I think Hasbro's plan is for every household in America to have 500 Vaders.   :-\

 ;)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on June 26, 2006, 05:22 PM
I think Hasbro's plan is for every household in America to have 500 Vaders.   :-\

 ;)

Then their plan will commence...
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Dan on June 26, 2006, 10:17 PM
I just got my confirmation from EE about my Tatooine case shipping. If you put in a preorder- be on the look-out-
 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: CHEWIE on June 26, 2006, 10:22 PM
I just got my confirmation from EE about my Tatooine case shipping. If you put in a preorder- be on the look-out-
 :)

Thanks for the heads up.  I actually cancelled my preorder since I was finding the figures everywhere.  I'll need to be checking though to make sure they aren't still sending it.

 :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jeff on June 26, 2006, 10:32 PM
I just got my confirmation from EE about my Tatooine case shipping. If you put in a preorder- be on the look-out-

Neener, neener... I got my Tatooine wave case from EE today.    :D
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Artoo on June 27, 2006, 12:11 AM
No one, Hasbro, Sideshow, midicom..., no one seems to be able to get Mark Mamil's head sculpt right.
The 12 inch SS one was great IMO.The VOTC/VTSC had an OK head,also IMO.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on June 28, 2006, 02:25 AM
In Pittsburgh, at least for me, these have become easier to find...  I'm hoping everyone else is having similar luck.  I've seen Sandtroopers even in some abundance.  It feels good buying a SA figure with lots of accessories...  Real good.  :)

I even appreciate figures like Hem Dazon more than I have from pictures.  I'm pleased by that.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Gatillo on June 28, 2006, 10:00 AM
I had troble finding the aliens.  I still see them from time to time.  I have only seen 2 sandtroopers though.  Han and Luke are usually warming along with Vader.  I have yet to see R5 so I do not know if he is worth picking up?  Is he (from the opening, playing, displaying stand point not the nice card point of view)?
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 28, 2006, 04:47 PM
R5 is really cool. While his leg does not retract it pops off so you can fit him in a y-wing or x-wing. If you turn his head his motivater pops ups.
Get him, he is worth it!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nirvana on July 1, 2006, 11:35 PM
Well, I found the whole wave at Wal Mart except for Sandtroopers (Big suprise  ::)) and it seems that I just arrived after a new case of Tatooine was unloaded...someone must've beat me to them.  :)
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2006, 03:53 AM
So far of this wave I've noticed that, obviously the Sandtrooper goes first, then though I'm surprised to see Hem Dazon is sorta tough to find too...  Then R5.  Then Garindan, and *drum roll* Momaw Nadon is a pegwarmer in my toy hunting routine already.  See my latest review on JD's front page as to WHY I believe his is this way too. :)

Yes Hasbro, yes...  articulation means nothing to you.  F improvements to the line, they're not worth it! ;)

I'm guessing Hem just has the "new" factor pushing him at retail mor ethan Garindan?  I'd say, honestly, Garindan is the better figure overall...  But Hem has the lead so far from what I see.  That's weird.

Sandtrooper is just great though, keep looking for him DN, he's out there...  I've seen him a few times now.  WM is getting this wave in semi-routinely right now and no more H&V seem to be hitting.  That's a major plus.  I've noticed since H&V dried up that they even are moving better.  People must be panicing that a set of them may be worth having since they shipped only briefly (or so far it seems briefly).
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Nirvana on July 2, 2006, 09:45 AM
There's multiple waves of H&V, so I think we're safe....for now. :)

This is the only store that I've found the Tatooine wave at, and it was a huge suprise...WalMart has had no new stock forever...it was a shame I didn't find any Sandies, though.

Must keep hunting.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: SilverZ on July 2, 2006, 04:02 PM
I stumbled into a small windfall last night at Walmart and found 6 cases of the wave ready to be put on the pegs. I finally was able to get a decent carded Momaw and Sandtrooper. The rest of the wave, minus R5, have been floating around here in abundance. Contrary to what JJ is finding, Momaw has been impossible to find here. I'm gathering now that its because Target has been getting the W4 R2 case, which has 1 Sandtrooper and no Momaw or R5 packed in, with repacks of Cody, Firespeeder Pilot, and... Lushros Dofine.  ::) Walmart had an even split of the original Wave 4 case and the revision case.

That W4R2 case is one of the more stupefying moves of the TSC line so far. Short pack Sandtrooper, drop Hammerhead and R5-D4? Add in last wave's mega-pegwarmer? The crack smoking monkey has been working overtime, it seems.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on July 2, 2006, 04:06 PM
Still haven't seen Tatooine Wave at all...

Pegs are too clogged with Lushros, Vader, Sun Fac, Yoda, and VTSC.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Jim on July 2, 2006, 07:03 PM
Every one of these figs has been sitting as of late minus the Sandtrooper.  I have a wall of Han's, Hammerheads and Bespin Vaders.  Tons of R5's, Hems and Garindans.  The Luke's seem to go after the Sandtroopers.  But both still can be found.  Hopefully the balance of the year can be as easy to find. 
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Brian on July 3, 2006, 09:13 AM
I saw a little bit of this wave at WM this past weekend, and picked up a couple of extras since I have some on their way to me in the mail sometime this week.  I believe they had 2 each of Han, Luke, Hammerhead, Hem, and Garindan, 1 Bespin Vader, and no Sandtroopers or R5-D4s.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 3, 2006, 12:55 PM
WM's around here have had a nice surge of this wave over the last couple of days.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on July 12, 2006, 07:23 PM
Finally found this wave at Target... Picked up a Hem Dazon.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Diddly on July 12, 2006, 08:08 PM
Yeah, this wave is really starting to sit. The only figure I'm not seeing multiples of is the Sandtrooper. Great figures, but the casual toybuyers aren't digging them I guess.

I'm kind of glad they're sitting though, it's allowed me to get caught up for the first time in a while.
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: Reid on July 12, 2006, 08:13 PM

I'm kind of glad they're sitting though, it's allowed me to get caught up for the first time in a while.

Same here. After all, the only figure I wanted from this wave was Hem Dazon, which I found earlier today. Might pick up a Sandtrooper if I saw one, but it's not a must. Still, I'm glad I'm caught up. Bring on Endor!
Title: Re: Battle of Tatooine Wave
Post by: mr director on July 20, 2006, 04:51 PM
Finally...they have this wave available in my area.  Got everyone with exception of Sandtrooper.