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Title: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Scott on May 20, 2003, 09:48 AM
A month or so ago TPU posted a retailer order sheet which contained a new Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader separate from the ROTJ versions.  Kebco recently posted the same bit of news but added that they were from ANH.

Are they repacks or are they new figures.  And if they are repacks, which ones do you think they are?
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: dustrho on May 20, 2003, 11:20 AM
I noticed that last night as well when I was checking what my next shipment of figures from Kebco will be.  They do say they're from ANH, but I can't find any information about these two figures anywhere.

I'm dying to know as well.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: FX-7 on May 20, 2003, 12:22 PM
Well, with the way reHashbro has been going, I'd say they are repacks of Darth (maybe from the Masters 2-apck) and Luke with Floppy hat.  Maybe they will toss in a poncho
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: JediMAC on May 20, 2003, 03:19 PM
If Hasbro's got half a brain, the Vader will indeed be the same one from the next-to-impossible to find MOTDS 2-pack - ala the single carded MOTDS Maul already announced.  It's the ANH version of Vader, and a very nice one at that.  If Hasbro stuck with figures of this nature - VHTF stuff that was one of the better figure versions (Commtech R2, Stormie, Leia, Ep.1 later waves), the repacks wouldn't be such a big deal.  In fact they'd be highly anticipated and appreciated.

And yes, I realize that whole need to keep some of the main characters "fresh" at the retail pegs, which I can live with.  But at least pick some that aren't STILL at retail, like that damned KE Jango!  What's up with that?!?
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: jadesfire on May 20, 2003, 03:25 PM
Like FX-7 said, it's Hasbro..they have to be repacks.  I thought it was an error actually (that TRU put ANH instead of ROTJ) but if it's not, I hope it's Vader from the sith lord two pack.  As for Luke, well it doesn't really matter which one because I have all that I need and will pass on it.

Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Scott on May 20, 2003, 03:29 PM
When this first came up I thought they were just the ROTJ Vader and Luke on new cards, I'm sticking by that until I see more proof, but this was just the second confirmation
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 20, 2003, 11:41 PM
I guess I'll have a little optimism here, and pray that this is what Hasbro has in store for us:

Vader - MOTD version, it's a great figure already and too hard to get

Luke - new Stormtrooper version - would anyone pass it up?

I truly hope the Luke is an all new Luke, and not a Tatooine version.  I would really like a new Stormtrooper version, but could live with one of him in X-Wing gear or Ceremony gear.  But not Tatooine gear.  Yuck.  And if they re-release the floppy hat version, I think it would be a dumb move since it was just offered again with the TRU Landspeeder.  Oh, how I hope it's an all new Stormtrooper Luke...

 :P
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 21, 2003, 10:07 AM
I could see Hasbro releasing the MOTDS Vader on a card and reissuing the POTJ X-wing Luke.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Scott on May 21, 2003, 10:10 AM
That X-Wing Luke was such a pegwarmer that I hope they don't  I picked up around 30 of him to do some helmet customs and head swaps and complete Red and Yellow Squadrons as well as a mess of generic Blue Decaled pilots.  Still haven't done much with them
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: MisterPL on May 21, 2003, 11:44 AM
My money is on repacks. Considering Hasbro's reissuing Darth Maul from the Masters of the Dark Side 2-pack, I'd bet they're doing the same with Vader. This is a great vanilla ANH Vader sculpt and deserves to be offered again.

As for Luke, I'm expecting any one of the recent Tatooine versions (TRU Landspeeder, maybe?) finally with a poncho.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Darth Broem on May 21, 2003, 04:22 PM
I am hoping Luke will come with a poncho regardless if it's a rehash or not.  I think I'm all Vadered out at the moment.  
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Jeff on May 22, 2003, 03:31 PM
When this first came up I thought they were just the ROTJ Vader and Luke on new cards, I'm sticking by that until I see more proof, but this was just the second confirmation

I would have to agree with you.

The Jedi Duel Vader and Jedi Luke due this summer are planned as the last wave of Collection 1 before it switches to "Clone Wars".

So, when I initially read of the "re-issue" Luke and Vader being in future Collection 2 Saga cases, I just assumed that these were the Jedi Duel figures re-carded onto Collection 2 cards in order to pump out more of the figures to the market.

That way, they don't have to include the "collection 1" Luke and Vader in the future collection 1 "clone wars" assortment cases to mix up retailers.  They just move them to Collection 2 and move on.

Probably their way of insuring that whole "everyone who wants one gets one" for Luke and Vader since so many fans are crying out for a new Jedi Luke!

So, until I read proof otherwise, I'll just assume it's the Jedi Duel Vader and Luke we already know about...

Jeff
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Jedirhino on May 23, 2003, 06:56 AM
They are the ROTJ Vader and Luke that have been displayed at various toy conventions
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Morgbug on May 24, 2003, 09:19 PM
Just cruising around Amok Toys contemplating the Cantina sets and I stumbled across this image:

(http://www.amoktime.com/images/swpotf/sw290b.jpg)

or if the image doesn't work clicky me (http://www.amoktime.com/images/swpotf/sw290b.jpg)

Here is the Luke, similar to the images seen previously from the toys shows, as mentioned above:

(http://www.amoktime.com/images/swpotf/sw289b.jpg)

again, just in case clicky 2 (http://www.amoktime.com/images/swpotf/sw289b.jpg)

Nice stuff.  I really like the Luke, though not sure how to get a Vader into the appropriate position (perhaps the one above works for what I have in mind).  Always welcome a RH Vader.  I have a loose and carded from POTF2, but the more, the merrier ;D
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: dustrho on May 24, 2003, 11:05 PM
That Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker look pretty good!  The only way I'll get them is through Kebco.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Morgbug on May 24, 2003, 11:16 PM
They are in Wave 15 I believe.  I have that on order from Newforce and they are blessedly packed two each in the case with 2 snowtroopers and six other single figures.  A great, great case. ;D

I really like the looks of that Luke figure and generally speaking, I don't like Luke very much. ;)
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: DSJ™ on May 24, 2003, 11:42 PM
Yep, they look great & I like the Luke figure.  :-*
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Darby on May 29, 2003, 04:02 PM
Nataku brings up an interesting point.  These could very easily just be the C1 ROTJ Luke and Vader.  That would make as much sense as repacking older figures, since the window of availability for both those figures seems kind of short.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Nicklab on May 29, 2003, 04:09 PM
Nataku brings up an interesting point.  These could very easily just be the C1 ROTJ Luke and Vader.  That would make as much sense as repacking older figures, since the window of availability for both those figures seems kind of short.

In the retailer lists I've seen with this Luke & Vader, they're collection 2.  It would be odd if they released a figure or two in both collections.

EDIT:  found an EE case listing with these figures.  It's a Collection 2 case: http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS84861P (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS84861P)
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Scott on May 29, 2003, 04:11 PM
Aren't Movie figs Collection 2 once the Clone Wars line starts?
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Morgbug on June 3, 2003, 02:09 PM
So will they be on C2 cards?  If so, that makes them a bit of a pain for the variant, every card type of collector.  Will the C2 Luke and Vader then sell for more?  Or will they just list them as C2?

Hey, wait a second, do they even designate C1 and C2 on cards anymore?  Doesn't look like it.  

Still, won't find me dissappointed to have another Luke and Vader.  At least they work as trade bait.  
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Darby on June 3, 2003, 03:23 PM
Yeah, I don't think there's any real siginificant difference between the C1 and C2 cards.  You'd think if this was the case, moving the ROTJ Luke and Vader, they'd move the Snowtrooper too.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Jeff on June 9, 2003, 11:36 AM
Well,

Apparently, my theory on the collection 1 to 2 swap was bass-ackwards wrong!  :'(

The new EE catalog is shipping with pictures, and it appears the pictures they are using for Luke and Vader are the T-16 CommTech Luke (w/ New Lightsaber) and the MotDS Vader.

So, I thought what I thought and argued for it until I saw proof otherwise, and this would appear to be the proof I sought.

So, for now, I guess they are scheduled to be boring re-pack figures... CommTech Luke and MotDS Vader.

(See Boba Binks thread on the new EE catalog for more info):
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1489

Jeff
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Mister Skeezler on June 11, 2003, 10:17 AM
Galactic Hunter is reporting that there will be an ANH Luke and Vader released using the Commtech Tattoine Luke, and the MOTDS Vader. Bravo Hasbro. I think its good to keep a Luke and Vader on the pegs for kids to pick up, and these are nice versions of both.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: ezehogan on June 11, 2003, 01:10 PM
The ANH versions of Luke/Vader are definately the MOTDS Vader and the Luke that came with the little T-16.

I think that the repack of the MOTDS Vader was a good decision, as the figure wasn't widely available and is considered to be one of the best Vader sculpts.

However, I question their intentions of repacking the T-16 Luke.  We just got a Tatooine Luke with the Landspeeder.  Do we really need another right now?  And if so, why this version?  Why not release a Luke with articulated elbows AND knees, and pack in a pancho?

On an unrelated note, them rereleasing the Kamino Escape Jango Fett is simply ridiculous.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: ezehogan on June 11, 2003, 01:15 PM
Here is a picture courtesy of SnTrooper at RS of what the new ANH Luke and Vader figures will be:

(http://members.aol.com/sntrooper/lukeandvader.jpg)

As you can see, clearly the T-16 Luke with a new lightsaber, and the MOTDS Vader.
Title: Re: Luke and Darth: A New Hope...What are they?
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 03:06 PM
Yep...same thing on the Japanese ad that just came out as well