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Title: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on December 7, 2006, 11:17 PM
Who else is watching this AMAZING show? I am HOOKED and ADDICTED! I love it, love it, love it! Please tell me a ton of you guys are watching this, this is quality television! Discuss your burning questions, theories, and favorite heroes.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 11:14 AM
I don't know that you'll find a ton.. but I absoluteley am addicted to it.
You can't miss even one episode or your screwed from trying to follow along though. I missed one episode early on and was lost until I discovered SCi-FI re-airs the latest show later in the week-then I got caught up-whew.

Sylar is my favorite character..I enjoy his manical-sithlike style and watching him kill folks- excellent.

was tripped up by the season end monday though :-\. why is the younger brother getting sick now? He seemed to get sick when horned-rimmed-glasses guy was talking to him in the cell. What was up with his 'vision' at the end too?
Does he become the nuclear holocaust after stealing radiation man's abilities? I'm glad they finally revealed the Haitian's ability--mind wiping...I was getting impatient waiting for that too. How was Sylar able to defeat that girls' suggestion power(jedi mind trick)...is it because he knocked her out of the box before she uttered the last syllable?

A great show

favorite characters in order

Sylar
Mohinder
younger brother   ?name?
Cop                       ?name?
Isaac
Hido  ?Hiro?

That scene this week in the Cop interview where the younger brother gets the cops' mind read ability was awesome, cleverly designed.

Nobody is allowed to talk to me while that show(Then Heroes) is on in my home.

The DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on December 8, 2006, 07:32 PM
yes, i think younger brother (peter) has maybe been in contact with radiation man sometime before and either hasnt brought it up yet or was wiped by Haitian guy. i think its a bummer that persuasion girl died. but there are three theories in my house about this, because in the preview it showed Sylar on the floor in his cell:

1) it made it look like she killed herself to avoid letting sylar get her ability
2) sylar shot her and will get her ability
3) or, my theory, she shot sylar and hes on the floor caause of that, and will regenerate (heal).

my favorites are probably nikki/jessica, i always enjoy her scenes, and sylar, very kool.

as for the cop, his name is matt, i think. i bet hes gonna divorce and get with FBI girl.

cant wait for january 22nd!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 07:38 PM
Did you see how he was looking off into space when the gun moved..it seemed as though he was looking for a safe place to shoot her so he could..*gasp* get her ability out of her brain safely? :o
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on December 8, 2006, 07:46 PM
Did you see how he was looking off into space when the gun moved..it seemed as though he was looking for a safe place to shoot her so he could..*gasp* get her ability out of her brain safely? :o

OH NO! Sylar with the ability to get anything he wants! That'd be pretty bad for our heroes. However, itd be pretty hard to get the ability if that blood splatterted everywhere was from the brain. But we dont know clearly who was holding the gun and which direction it was pointing and whose blood that was...

I wonder if Peter picked up any of Sylar's powers when they were fighting. Sylar's chocful of them. Hey! Maybe we havent seen radiation man in so long because Sylar killed him and took his power, and that's where Peter got it.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 8, 2006, 08:00 PM
I disagree..it seems and even Peter said to his brother and the cheerleader..that he only gets their ability when they're near him.

However, it would be a plot error if his recent sickness he has is from radiation man..especially without him nearby. I would dislike that aspect of the show if that were true. It may be however, especially if you refer to his dream/vision with him going nuclear--there's no radiation man in sight..not good.

TheDS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on December 9, 2006, 11:36 AM
OH NO! Sylar with the ability to get anything he wants! That'd be pretty bad for our heroes. However, itd be pretty hard to get the ability if that blood splatterted everywhere was from the brain. But we dont know clearly who was holding the gun and which direction it was pointing and whose blood that was...

I wonder if Peter picked up any of Sylar's powers when they were fighting. Sylar's chocful of them. Hey! Maybe we havent seen radiation man in so long because Sylar killed him and took his power, and that's where Peter got it.

Read the online comic.  Eden killed herself so Sylar wouldn't get her power, plus it shows how they keep Sylar from leaving.

I think Peter got sick from his contact with Sylar, who knows how many powers he has.  It could be overload for Peter and thus his sickness.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on December 9, 2006, 11:38 AM
OH NO! Sylar with the ability to get anything he wants! That'd be pretty bad for our heroes. However, itd be pretty hard to get the ability if that blood splatterted everywhere was from the brain. But we dont know clearly who was holding the gun and which direction it was pointing and whose blood that was...

I wonder if Peter picked up any of Sylar's powers when they were fighting. Sylar's chocful of them. Hey! Maybe we havent seen radiation man in so long because Sylar killed him and took his power, and that's where Peter got it.

Read the online comic.  Eden killed herself so Sylar wouldn't get her power, plus it shows how they keep Sylar from leaving.

I think Peter got sick from his contact with Sylar, who knows how many powers he has.  It could be overload for Peter and thus his sickness.

i will have to read that comic. cool!

your peter sickness theory sounds pretty possible. maybe there's an 'induce sickness' power like Oppo Rancisis has or something.  :o
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: DSJ™ on December 9, 2006, 09:58 PM
Heroes is an awesome show. For those who have not seen it or have missed an episode,you can watch it online on your PC.  ;)  Tho subtitled, it plays in english.

Heroes Linky (http://www.tv-links.co.uk/Heroes_links.html)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 11, 2006, 11:33 AM
My Take on the future of the show. I believe Sylar will be killed by Peter.
Somehow I think Peter will have an encounter with Sylar killing or getting ready to kill radiation man--I think he will gain the rads ability and fry Sylar to a crisp.

On the 'Peter vision'  --You see Peter's brother approaching him in the end as it looks like Peter is going Nuclear. I think what happens here is Peter cannot control the rads power and his brother and him devise a plan to fly up into the outer atmospheres together to safely detonate the man-bomb while sacrificing themselves.

We'll see ;)

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on December 11, 2006, 03:23 PM
We've really been enjoying this show too, and watching it from the beginning.  Its interesting to finally learn a little more about Sylar, and the ended the first "half" of the season on a nice note with that Peter's vision cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on December 11, 2006, 05:59 PM
My Take on the future of the show. I believe Sylar will be killed by Peter.
Somehow I think Peter will have an encounter with Sylar killing or getting ready to kill radiation man--I think he will gain the rads ability and fry Sylar to a crisp.

On the 'Peter vision'  --You see Peter's brother approaching him in the end as it looks like Peter is going Nuclear. I think what happens here is Peter cannot control the rads power and his brother and him devise a plan to fly up into the outer atmospheres together to safely detonate the man-bomb while sacrificing themselves.

We'll see ;)

DS

I think this is where the whole "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" comes in.  Maybe it's possible for Peter to absorb everyones power to stop radiation man.  Think of this way, by themselves they can't but with all their powers combined they can. 

My theory revolves around Peter taking everyones power:
Issac; past/future reader - Peter can see how it will happen
Miccah; technology wiz - ?
Nikki; evil side - Peter is by default a pushover, this will give him the power to do what needs to be done
DL; phasing - access inside RM
Hiro; time - slow dow time or stop time to get to RM
Matt; mind reader - know what RM is thinking
Nathan; fly - take RM away
Claire; healing - heal himself after the explosion
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on December 11, 2006, 10:56 PM
My Take on the future of the show. I believe Sylar will be killed by Peter.
Somehow I think Peter will have an encounter with Sylar killing or getting ready to kill radiation man--I think he will gain the rads ability and fry Sylar to a crisp.

On the 'Peter vision'  --You see Peter's brother approaching him in the end as it looks like Peter is going Nuclear. I think what happens here is Peter cannot control the rads power and his brother and him devise a plan to fly up into the outer atmospheres together to safely detonate the man-bomb while sacrificing themselves.

We'll see ;)

DS

I think this is where the whole "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" comes in.  Maybe it's possible for Peter to absorb everyones power to stop radiation man.  Think of this way, by themselves they can't but with all their powers combined they can. 

My theory revolves around Peter taking everyones power:
Issac; past/future reader - Peter can see how it will happen
Miccah; technology wiz - ?
Nikki; evil side - Peter is by default a pushover, this will give him the power to do what needs to be done
DL; phasing - access inside RM
Hiro; time - slow dow time or stop time to get to RM
Matt; mind reader - know what RM is thinking
Nathan; fly - take RM away
Claire; healing - heal himself after the explosion

good theory. i also have thought ando has a power from day 1 that haznt been revealed, and maybe symone has one too, it showed her in his vision.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on December 12, 2006, 04:16 PM
I think those two figures are powerless, friend/lover fill-in elements to the program

Wasn't that Simone chic in a love triangle with Peter and Issaac?

Maybe she's some sexual goddess power type :P ::)

Yep, that it! Her plan is to seduce RM :o ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 17, 2007, 07:29 PM
monday!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 23, 2007, 01:21 AM
The invisible man introduced! A scum petty thief at that...I guess the cheerleaders' dad was right in saying not all people deserve their powers.

Nice episode and nice scene with radiation man once again. ;D

--DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Cory Chaos on January 23, 2007, 09:43 AM
I started to DVR the new season last night. Unfortunately, having never seen the 1st season, I'm going to have to go with a 13 minute recap on MySpace until the S1 DVD is out.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on January 23, 2007, 10:22 AM
Last night wasn't a new season, it's still season one.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Dr. Zoltar on January 23, 2007, 02:30 PM
The invisible man introduced! A scum petty thief at that...I guess the cheerleaders' dad was right in saying not all people deserve their powers.

You know, I was trying to figure that part out.  You could see him do something with the money and his billfold, but I couldn't tell what.  Making change from larger bills?  At first I was thinking "Why in the world is he paying for something when he's invisible and could take it for free?"  But that makes total sense that he was pilfering money.  And we get a sense of the range of Peter's ability as well as knowing that one invisible person can see another.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 23, 2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah, that bum was certainly pissed someone could see him talking on the stolen cell phone. The way he was laughing....I wanna see someone punch him in the mouth for my (it's just a tv show)viewing entertainment.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 23, 2007, 10:56 PM
omigosh! the part that gave me a chill was "Replica Sword: Courtesy of the Linderman Group"! dang, rich stuff, sent a shiver down my spine, making me want to know even more who the **** this linderman guy is! and judging by the previews, i think claires adoptive mommy dies next week. and who else saw the preview of the new hero during Deal or No Deal?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sithbaker on January 24, 2007, 01:29 PM
Did anyone figure out the code to enter the Primatech site?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on January 24, 2007, 01:31 PM
i don't know...i called the 1800 number and they told me that the code was MP36, but it didn't work.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sithbaker on January 24, 2007, 01:32 PM
i don't know...i called the 1800 number and they told me that the code was MP36, but it didn't work.

Just got off the phone.
It is MT36 ... filling out the application now, hehe
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sithbaker on January 24, 2007, 01:38 PM
Careers - Thank You

Thank you for completing our employee application. An HR representative will contact you shortly should your qualifications match our hiring needs at this time.
>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<

Got an email saying
" Thank you for your interest in Primatech Paper. We will be in contact once we evaluate your application."

Just got a txt msg from them on my cell too, heh. Thanking me for taking time to fill out the app.

Replied back to the txt.
Just got this one:
Thank You, a Primatech Paper rep will be contacting you in the next few weeks..

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 24, 2007, 08:34 PM

" Thank you for your interest in Primatech Paper. We will be in contact once we evaluate your application."




isnt that?...

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 26, 2007, 09:31 PM
oh sorry for the double post but i have a theory- ya know the cockroach thats been running around around next to SYLAR for that whole episode...and you know how they say that COCKROACHES have the ABILITY to withstand NUCLEAR BLASTS and even nuclear war...you guys catching my drift?...

SYLAR
COCKROACHES
ABILITY
NUCLEAR BLASTS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on January 26, 2007, 09:38 PM
Sylar won't be anywhere near where the nuclear blast is going off.  That's a different story arc, I think.

I've been saying for months it's the radioactive guy gonna cause the explosion.  Peter's going to need to absorb various abilities to get close to him and take him down.  That's how I see it shaping up.

Funny how everyone's converging on Vegas again.  It'll be interesting to see how Hiro and Peter continue to avoid each other until Peter gets a scar somehow.

BTW, how is Sylar still in his cell?  I figured he would have escaped after punching a hole in the prison with Eve.  I was very surprised to see him lying there with no explanation.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on January 27, 2007, 01:12 AM
BTW, how is Sylar still in his cell?  I figured he would have escaped after punching a hole in the prison with Eve.  I was very surprised to see him lying there with no explanation.

One of the online comics explain how he's still in the cell.  There are a few different ones which relate to each character, a good read and some background information on them.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 27, 2007, 11:49 AM
BTW, how is Sylar still in his cell?  I figured he would have escaped after punching a hole in the prison with Eve.  I was very surprised to see him lying there with no explanation.

One of the online comics explain how he's still in the cell.  There are a few different ones which relate to each character, a good read and some background information on them.

i havnt been able to access those comics. ive tried time and again, no success.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on January 27, 2007, 02:13 PM
i havnt been able to access those comics. ive tried time and again, no success.

Have you tried the printable version and not the interactive novel.  The printable version opens up in Adobe.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on January 29, 2007, 03:44 PM
spoilers........
















cheerleader meets her family tonite??!

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sithbaker on January 30, 2007, 06:23 PM
Anyone who got into the Primatech Paper site, you should have gotten an email last night to get to another part of the site, heh
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on January 31, 2007, 12:51 AM
I got in but there are a couple links that really don't do anything for me.  Plus it looks like there's a hidden code but if it's a password, I'm not sure where to use it...or I haven't figured out the userid/password combo yet.

Hmmm.... 

Shades of "Lost" and the treasure hunt that I gave up on months ago.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on January 31, 2007, 07:47 PM
i think sylar's gonna try to kill lyle, claires mom, and mr muggles and hessian guy's gonna see the chimes and come block out sylars powers to save the day.

i also think HRG guy is claires actual real dad, except he was having an affair and had to lie and stage a fire to get one of his gal pals away and out of the picture.

one last thing: who else thought that hiro's dad being played by george takei (lt. sulu) was the gayest ending ever?! especially if it turns out hes linderman.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 1, 2007, 01:04 AM
i also think HRG guy is claires actual real dad, except he was having an affair and had to lie and stage a fire to get one of his gal pals away and out of the picture.


Well thought out idea, I like it! :D

I didn't like the Takei ending at all. He didn't even say anything, boo. I do feel Hiro will get his sword from him somehow, though. Remember, it was his stories his dad told him about the samurais and all. Well, maybe his dad has the sword. Hiro could get it from him...not necessarily given to him though. Imagine if HRG works for Takei...Hmmmm?

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 3, 2007, 12:42 AM
My theory on the biological daddy is split...

I'm 80% that it's Patrelli the elder....too lazy to remember his name, but the one who flies.

20% that it could Linderman.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 5, 2007, 10:36 PM
spoilers for the west coast......























called it!!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Smartypants1635 on February 5, 2007, 11:22 PM
You sure did my friend, that was very unexpected on my part.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sprry75 on February 5, 2007, 11:48 PM
name, was that a lucky guess, or were there clues that I missed?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 6, 2007, 08:39 AM
what led me to that conclusion was the shot on the previews of a man with french cuffs, expensive watch, and braces sitting down ....dressed and moved like Patrelli.  That got me thinking about it enough to rationalize that (a) he's clearly got a lot to hide in his past, (b) we've already seen that he's not above screwing around on his wife, wheelchair or not, and (c) i doubted they would introduce a new character, just didn't buy the cheerdaddy/realdaddy theory, and thought it was too early to meet Linderman.

So yeah....mostly a lucky guess.


Suppose this episode put the final kibosh on the theory that cheerdaddy was the one with dampening powers too.  Looks like it's definitely the Haitian.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 6, 2007, 12:56 PM
very good richard....


I have an out-there theory about what happened to the 'supposed shot' Sylar. Suppose he picked up a persona shifting ability(ala changeling Zam wessel) and returned to the house as the Haitan...since the haitan doesn't speak much he could just shake his head no to HRG about finding Sylar and HRG wouldn't suspect anything by hearing Sylar's voice. They did (HRG's team) establish earlier that Sylar had killed for/stolen many abilites and they admitted they didn't know what he was capable of yet. I suppose the Haitan could be the person who dies then by Sylars hand.

As expected after watching last week... the whole Hiro/George Takei development was a Dud bomb IMO. What a waste of air time.

So, Peter can use his abilities away from other people then..interesting.

Unfortunately though for me, the show appears to be not revealing as much as it was in the first half of the season, as I'm starting to lose interest in it now. I feel like I'm watching a 20 minute soap that you could miss 2 weeks of and still know everything. Seems like, IMO, that at the beginning if you missed an episode than you missed ALOT of info and were screwed from understanding the basic storylines, events ect. It's vastly different now though. I hope it isn't a sign that the show is struggling for ideas or story.


DS   
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Famine on February 6, 2007, 01:12 PM
I hope it isn't a sign that the show is struggling for ideas or story.


DS   


More like they know NBC has picked up the show, and they've established a fan base, and now they can take their time selling the story to more viewers, and they aren't in a super rush to get picked up for the rest of the season.

Kevin
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on February 6, 2007, 02:56 PM
At least when Heroes gives you an answer, you have an answer.  Unike Lost which is the show that's really pissing me off.  I'm not even looking forward to its return at this point.

With Heroes, Prison Break and 24 all in full swing for the rest of the season, I'm not even missing Lost anymore.  Now all I need is for Jericho to come back on and my week will be complete.

As for last night's episode, I thought we learned a lot, Hiro's part of the story aside.  We found Claire's mom and dad.  Peter is starting to understand his power and so is Issac.  That's three plots that just got advanced. 

The only story that's outside the main one is Niki's.  Other than hooking up with Nathan she's outside the whole bomb thing.  I just can't seem to figure out how she's going to fit into everything...or if she's even supposed to.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on February 6, 2007, 09:12 PM
holy sh**! Thats the last person i expected! So Peter is Claires uncle! Wow! Wow! Wow! Dang. I REALLY thought itd be HRG, but claire did say in the middle of the episode,' I always pictured my parents living in a penthouse in New York or something.' That did get me thinking, but not enough to prevent me from crapping myself when NATHAN picked up the phone!  :o  :o  :o   :-X  :P  :-[

also, this means nathan killed Mohindar's dad. Becuz it showed that the guy killing him from the back of the taxi had a watch exactly like that on a different episode. WOW! why would Nathan do that? this brings even more unanswered questions!  :o  ???

as for the sequences with hiro and cpt. sulu,...GAY!!! what the hell? very pointless in my opinion.  ::)  :P

the preview at the end last night showed nikki (jessica) pushing matt the mind reading cop out of a window! is that death for our chubby psychic copper pal? tune in next week! (i think it is)  :o
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 7, 2007, 10:45 AM
Those of you looking to spend more time cracking into the Primatech site should check out this thread (http://www.9thwonders.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=50099).

Lots of codes there.  Lots of discussion in general on that site.

Wheeeeeee. 


buncha geeks...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 7, 2007, 11:26 AM
also, this means nathan killed Mohindar's dad. Becuz it showed that the guy killing him from the back of the taxi had a watch exactly like that on a different episode. WOW! why would Nathan do that? this brings even more unanswered questions!  :o  ???


Have you lost your mind? Sylar killed Mohinder's father ::). He even stole the Sylar name off the watch he repaired.
C'mon man.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 7, 2007, 11:50 AM
charming as always.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 7, 2007, 01:50 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on February 7, 2007, 09:03 PM
also, this means nathan killed Mohindar's dad. Becuz it showed that the guy killing him from the back of the taxi had a watch exactly like that on a different episode. WOW! why would Nathan do that? this brings even more unanswered questions!  :o  ???


Have you lost your mind? Sylar killed Mohinder's father ::). He even stole the Sylar name off the watch he repaired.
C'mon man.

DS

no, dont you remember, mohindar had the dream that lil dream boy entered and it showed a guy in the back of a taxi bashing mohinar's dad's head against a window and killing him. he was wearing a watch like the one nathan was wearing.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 8, 2007, 12:08 AM
also, this means nathan killed Mohindar's dad. Becuz it showed that the guy killing him from the back of the taxi had a watch exactly like that on a different episode. WOW! why would Nathan do that? this brings even more unanswered questions!  :o  ???


Have you lost your mind? Sylar killed Mohinder's father ::). He even stole the Sylar name off the watch he repaired.
C'mon man.

DS

no, dont you remember, mohindar had the dream that lil dream boy entered and it showed a guy in the back of a taxi bashing mohinar's dad's head against a window and killing him. he was wearing a watch like the one nathan was wearing.


Yes, ;D..actually I never forgot it...Oh, and uh, it's a Sylar watch. How do I know? It's posted on the primatechpaper.com site along with many, MANY other facts about the show and prior episodes summaries, including other comments from writers about show related little known facts too. The only thing that has been in debate over is why Sylar killed Mr. Suresh that way, without 'lasering' his cranium. Most of the traffic I read was that folks felt Sylar killed him that way before he received Telekenetic man's powers. Itriguing, you seem to be in the minority of folks(you're the first I read about) that believe Nathan actually killed Mohinder's father. Good try though, kiddo :D!

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on February 13, 2007, 04:02 PM
Looks like the villians are really starting to form up now. An alliance between good/evil factions coming soon?

Villians

Jessica
Sylar
Cheerleaders' real mom? greed, selfulness


Possibles/ either wayers(good or evil)

Invisible man
Parkman? (greed, revenge)? or will he do the right thing?
RM(radiation man) (quest for power?)

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on February 13, 2007, 10:40 PM
Cheerleaders' real mom? greed, selfulness


is your secret power making up words?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Sithbaker on February 14, 2007, 12:09 AM
Cheerleaders' real mom? greed, selfulness


is your secret power making up words?
Oh SNAP!  :D

Any who, this week was a good one (to me at least). Some **** coming together or at least in the early stages of coming together.
Have to go check the Primatech site now, got 2-3 texts on my cell the past week!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on February 17, 2007, 12:29 PM
i wonder who dies monday? my money's on hope killing ando or HRG killing claire's stepmom.

im curious to see how that hope character develops. she seems like a pretty evil character.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on February 24, 2007, 07:47 PM
so simone (and dale) died! WOW!  :-X

but, peter will definitely just go back in time and save simone. she was in the dream.  ::)

i wonder if the FBI will decide that mohindar is sylar and arrest him (only to hav linderman bail him out). i bet! becuz sylar will frame him by killing every hero they cross paths with and pointing out how mohindar was always there talking with the hero right before he/she died.  :o

and i bet they will have to keep sylar alive because mohindar finds out he's the cure or something.  :P
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on February 24, 2007, 10:48 PM
Cheerleaders' real mom? greed, selfulness


is your secret power making up words?

Now THAT's funny!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on February 24, 2007, 10:49 PM
so simone (and dale) died! WOW!  :-X

but, peter will definitely just go back in time and save simone. she was in the dream.  ::)

i wonder if the FBI will decide that mohindar is sylar and arrest him (only to hav linderman bail him out). i bet! becuz sylar will frame him by killing every hero they cross paths with and pointing out how mohindar was always there talking with the hero right before he/she died.  :o

and i bet they will have to keep sylar alive because mohindar finds out he's the cure or something.  :P

Do you think Mohinder has some kind of power?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Straxus on February 27, 2007, 04:09 AM
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Just in case someone has not watched it yet on tape or Tivo...

Ok... my problem with tonight's episode is this: Why the hell are the people that were in the house with nuclear guy on meltdown not dying of radiation poisoning? That was one of the most extreme cases they have shown of his power and no one is starting to have hair missing or radiation burns? (Other than Clair of course, but she regenerates)
Well enough of my complaining... I will now take a chill pill and remember the lyrics to the song...
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts,
Just repeat to yourself It's just a show,
I should really just relax"
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on February 27, 2007, 07:58 AM
I had a problem with the way they did this as well.  They should have explained up front that it was the long term exposure to radiation that killed his wife or that he's managed to enact much more control now and doesn't give off as much radiation? 

Other than this little glitch though, I thought it was another great episode.  I did not see most of this coming *SPOILER ALERT* like Hiro's dad being involved or the Invisible dude being a partner.  I love how this show keeps the plot moving.  :)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on February 28, 2007, 07:31 AM
I thought it was a great episode too, but was wondering about the radiation thing.  I am wondering who this "boss" of HRG is.  I am also wondering how Parkman didn't sense him when he came in the house and shot radiation man.  Did invisible man actually go over the edge of the bridge, or did he fake it?  He had already taken to bullets to the chest.  Lastly, it looks like Parkman is going to replace the Haitian as HRG's partner, I just wonder how much of HRG's memory has been erased.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on March 3, 2007, 12:41 PM
no, HRG has been shot and wiped and kicked out. maybe a parkman/haitian team? and who was that girl at the end and wut is her power? and why did the preview show simone asking 'do you want to shoot me again?' i bet she has a power. and how is takei involved?

this episode created more questions than it answered.   ???
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on March 5, 2007, 07:21 AM
no, HRG has been shot and wiped and kicked out. maybe a parkman/haitian team? and who was that girl at the end and wut is her power? and why did the preview show simone asking 'do you want to shoot me again?' i bet she has a power. and how is takei involved?

this episode created more questions than it answered.   ???

I wouldn't say HRG has been kicked out.  When he was talking with his boss, his boss was acquising the Haitian of hiding people with power and he told HRG to bring in Claire and he said he would go get her.  He thus staged the shooting with the Haitian so that he could stay on the inside and tell his people that the Haitian attacked him and abducted Claire.  His boss also told HRG wouldn't it be nice to have a partner like Parkman.  That is my take on the scene anyways.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on March 5, 2007, 09:37 AM
New episode tonight, which I think will be the last new one for a bit.  It sounds like there will be at least a couple weeks off after tonight's episode.  I'm looking forward to it, plus a sneak peek at Spidey 3!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on March 6, 2007, 03:34 AM
New episode tonight, which I think will be the last new one for a bit.  It sounds like there will be at least a couple weeks off after tonight's episode.  I'm looking forward to it, plus a sneak peek at Spidey 3!

April 23 is the next episode.

Good episode tonight.  I really like Sylar's character.  Reminds me of a cockroach.  People do all these kinds of things to him, but he somehow survives.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Jayson on March 6, 2007, 06:52 AM
Anyone know when this show hits DVD? I haven't watched but one episode and I really want to watch the whole thing.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on March 6, 2007, 09:50 AM
September?  August, maybe, so that it's out in time for season 2.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on March 6, 2007, 09:54 AM
Yeah, I'd guess sometime in the fall as well for the DVD.  I thought last night's episode was another good one (plus the Spidey preview), and really left a lot of things up in the air until the series returns in April.  Its going to be quite a wait, but I guess I should be used to it after the LOST gap this year :).  It looks like NBC is taking the no reruns route, at least for the next couple weeks, with some two hour editions of Deal or No Deal instead.  I understand that some people become frustrated with repeats on shows like this, and LOST, but I'd sometimes rather have some repeats instead of more reality/game show stuff.  Heck, that's how my wife and I caught up on the first season of LOST the first time was with the repeats.  Oh well, looking forward to the show's return.  Man, Sylar is creepy.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Hemish on March 6, 2007, 08:06 PM
April 23!!
Thats like 6 weeks away!! how am I supposed to wait !!
I call Shenanigans, you cant end an episode like that and have us wait 6 weeks for the next one!!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on March 7, 2007, 05:12 PM
April 23!!
Thats like 6 weeks away!! how am I supposed to wait !!
I call Shenanigans, you cant end an episode like that and have us wait 6 weeks for the next one!!


Agreed.  I'm with  Brian - give me a few key repeats and if nothing else, I can have it on in the background.  Lost apparently Lost (pun intended) a ton of viewers with their 3 month hiatus - surprised that ABC didn't learn something from this. >:(
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on April 23, 2007, 12:50 PM
Just a reminder that Heroes is finally back on tonight.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 23, 2007, 12:54 PM
Yes..FINALLY
Thanks Mikey!

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on April 23, 2007, 01:50 PM
So so so psyched that this show is finally back!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on April 23, 2007, 08:12 PM
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!  ;D  ;D

I mean, yeah I'm glad to hear it'll be back on. Thanks, Mikey.

 8)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 24, 2007, 11:41 AM
Interesting episode, though I can say it didn't quench since I had to wait so long. A 2 hour episode after the break would have been better.

SYLAR!!!!!!

Who thinks Hiro will have to fight hisself to be able to return to the past?

Peter's brother, the next villian? I don't like it. Negative twist in the show for me.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on April 24, 2007, 08:41 PM
Claires grandma sure made it sound like she has a power. Im very interested in how her character develops as the series goes on.

I think Isaac's gone. Especially cuz Linder made it sound like there were other future-painting artists.

One question--Who made out what Sylar painted? It looked like Sylar in the Oval office. Who else knows what Im talking about?

I think this series keeps getting more and more interesting.  8)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on April 25, 2007, 07:18 AM
Claires grandma sure made it sound like she has a power. Im very interested in how her character develops as the series goes on.

I think Isaac's gone. Especially cuz Linder made it sound like there were other future-painting artists.

One question--Who made out what Sylar painted? It looked like Sylar in the Oval office. Who else knows what Im talking about?

I think this series keeps getting more and more interesting.  8)

I actually thought it was the same picture Linderman had...only with less artistic ability then Isaac had. 

I am wondering what Isaac meant by he would show the others how to defeat Sylar before Sylar killed him...unless it was in that final comic he sent out.

Also, in the scenes for next week, there was a picture of Sylar on a news cast.  Did it say he was a hero beneath his name?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on April 26, 2007, 10:34 AM
Future Nathan probably becomes a hard man because of the blast and because that's how he needs to be to become President.  The painting was most likely the same one Isaac made, but with less talent.  I have read speculation that Sylar gets ahold of the shapeshifter and takes Nathan's place, but I don't think that happens.  The newscast did not say Sylar was a hero.  It just said America Remembers, kind of like we have seen with that nutjob who shot up Virginia tech.  Usually we see a picture of him when that event is mentioned on the news.  We know Isaac is gone because Hiro went to the future and found him dead in one of the first episodes and because he painted his own death.  No question he is gone.  His clues to kill Sylar were either in the last issue of 9th Wonders or in that sketchbook he gave the courier.  I don't think Hiro will fight himself.  Future Hiro wants to stop the blast, so he will help Current Hiro learn all he can about it so he can shut it down.  He knows something is wrong because Claire was saved, yet the blast still happened.  From the previews for next week, Future Peter sounded like he said he was the bomb.  In the online comic for this week, Future Hiro thought about how he tried to stop Sylar from blowing up the city and he almost did by cutting him up with the sword, but because Sylar had taken Claire's power, he regenerated and still blew up.  Every time I think I have something figured out with this series, more questions come up.  The writers do a great job. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on April 26, 2007, 07:34 PM
I think Sylar will definitely get a hold of the shapeshifter, and hen he does, awful things will happen. Awful things.

Either that, or Jessica will kill her in a couple episodes for what she did to Micah in the last one.

I hate the shapeshifter, shes an annoying bitch. Cant wait to see Sylar get her. Or Jessica.

John your theory about Sylar taking Nathans place might be good, maybe hes starts heroes for their powers with his presidential authority. Could be why Mo was saying, 'This is genocide' to Nathan on the previews.

This show really generates questions, it bugs me! In a good way.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on April 27, 2007, 09:19 AM
I know I won't be sad if she goes.  Part of the fun of this show is speculating about what will happen.  I think that if something does happen to Micah, either that will make Nikki totally lose control and Jessica will go nuts and kill a lot of people or Nikki will reign in Jessica and never let her have control again, but she will have access to her strength.  It might explain why Peter and Nikki/Jessica were together in the previews for next week's epsiode.  There also seemed to be a shot of Peter walking through a wall like DL.  I wonder if DL will also die?  I hope not.  I like the character.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 27, 2007, 12:47 PM
Shapeshifter is next to die--since she's a new character like the suggestive voice chic and computer memory chic....they don't stay on long and then are killed-since they are not long-term story characters.

I wonder about the invisible man though, I thought he would be a short term character but he has seemed to stay on longer than most...I wonder if HRG will find a way to track him down and form an alliance of the 4 to go against linderman's team(they did say they were headed to NY-and invisible guy is there and already found a way to remove his tracker).

Linderman feels it's acceptable for millions of NY folks to die..and he seems to have got Nathan to buy-in(to me it seems these are our villian team formed). Seems like you have 2 seperate villians (Sylar and linderman's team) and several on-their-own heros ..with some team-forming (rad man,HRG,mind-reader).

I really like rad-mans' character development...the Electro-magnetic pulse(EMP)...awesome scene!


DS 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on April 27, 2007, 03:40 PM
did they kill off email girl?  I didn't remember that...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on April 28, 2007, 11:24 AM
No.  ???
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on April 28, 2007, 09:28 PM
hA ha haAAAA!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on April 28, 2007, 11:01 PM
No love for the shape-shifter?  Come on!  I think she's a great character and hope she stays around.  You never know who is really who with her in play - definitely makes the show more unpredictable.  She's also smokin' hot!  :o
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 1, 2007, 09:05 AM
Apparently Future Hiro is not in the same timeline as Present Hiro.  He would have remembered meeting himself, being captured and rescued and seeing himself getting shot and probably killed.  He also would have known that he hadn't killed or even met Sylar at that point.  Do we know how localized his time stopping ability is?  And why didn't he just stop time and rescue Present Hiro when he was captured?
So Nikki does get rid of Jessica and learns how to use her strength.  Good for her. 
Peter should have stopped time and killed Sylar when he saw him.  I guess he really wanted to fight somebody.  He could always stop time if he needed to. 
I was wrong about Nathan.  That theory I read was spot on.
Isaac's paintings/comics seem to contradict.  He painted the destruction of the city, yet in his comic, Sylar is the bomb and Hiro kills him.  We have not seen any mention of Peter being the bomb in his art that I know of.  Someone correct me if I am wrong.  We just have Peter's dream, and in that dream, Isaac and Simone are there when he explodes. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: jadesfire on May 1, 2007, 12:09 PM
I really liked the future episode.  I figured Claire wouldn't make it out alive and wonder if Hiro will remember himself getting shot ( I assume so) - so is there 3 episodes left or was that #3??
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on May 1, 2007, 04:13 PM
There are 3 episodes left.  It's actually a 23 episode season and last night was chapter 20.

I loved the show, but I'm getting to hate time travel movies in my old age.  Too many bad Star Trek Temporal Mechanics episodes I guess.

I found it to be really interesting that in that timeline Mohinder, Parkman and the Haitian were all working for "Nathan" against the other heroes (can we just call them mutants yet?  ;D ).  I could see Parkman becoming jaded but it seemed like a lot of things were going against what Mohinder believed in.

Anyway, Time Warner cable was having some issues last night and I missed a minute or so of Hiro talking to himself at Isaac's apartment so I might have missed this.  But I thought that the future Hiro believed he had killed Sylar but didn't stop the bomb.  So, in his timeline did he kill Nathan, thinking it was Sylar, and that allowed Sylar to use Candice's power to imitate Nathan?

Not knowing exactly what all powers Sylar has accumulated, my thought on killing him would be to get Peter to sneak up on him, freeze time and incinerate him with Ted's powers.  Having Hiro decapitate him would also rate high on the list...followed by the incineration cause he needs to burn.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 1, 2007, 06:51 PM
I think Sylar will definitely get a hold of the shapeshifter, and hen he does, awful things will happen. Awful things.


John your theory about Sylar taking Nathans place might be good, maybe hes starts heroes for their powers with his presidential authority. Could be why Mo was saying, 'This is genocide' to Nathan on the previews.

This show really generates questions, it bugs me! In a good way.

Wow...I almost feel like I sort of foresaw that.

I thought that was a very cool episode. Matt is so evil in the future, it was like one of them ST 'mirror universe' episodes. His wife and kid must have powers. Interesting.

Was that email girl that was helping Bennett and got shot in the head? I think it was.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 2, 2007, 01:53 AM
I thought that was a very cool episode. Matt is so evil in the future, it was like one of them ST 'mirror universe' episodes. His wife and kid must have powers. Interesting.

Really? I didn't see how he(Matt) was evil at all, just somebody motivated by the care of their family..you see his humanity in his scene with HRG about his family. I didn't feel Mohinder had gone bad at all either...he felt he was helping the heroes' situations by researching how to 'help' cure them..he did the right thing in the end, anyway. I felt those '3' were just duped by Sylar and they thought they were doing something good- the reports of 'mutants' killing whole schools and going out of control...I think the right thing to do would be to eliminate them(mutants) since public in that timeline reality were so affected in opinion by the 'bomb'.


Was that email  girl that was helping Bennett and got shot in the head? I think it was.


Give it a rest, it's a stupid 'joke' that a fool posted in here ::)


Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on May 2, 2007, 07:22 AM
I think Sylar will definitely get a hold of the shapeshifter, and hen he does, awful things will happen. Awful things.


John your theory about Sylar taking Nathans place might be good, maybe hes starts heroes for their powers with his presidential authority. Could be why Mo was saying, 'This is genocide' to Nathan on the previews.

This show really generates questions, it bugs me! In a good way.

Wow...I almost feel like I sort of foresaw that.

I thought that was a very cool episode. Matt is so evil in the future, it was like one of them ST 'mirror universe' episodes. His wife and kid must have powers. Interesting.

Was that email girl that was helping Bennett and got shot in the head? I think it was.


Actually, I was wondering who that girl was as well.  At first, I thought it was the shape shifter, but she must have been killed by Sylar so he could take over Nathan's ability.  Even though NBC commercials promo'ed this episode as what could have happened, I look at it more like what actually did happen.  I don't think future Hiro is aware of any changes he makes in the timeline.  I think his first attempt was to go back to Peter and tell him save the cheerleader, save the world.  Isaac painted the future that Hiro is supposed to kill Sylar.  I think in the original timeline, before Hiro figured anything out from the comics, Sylar kills Claire at homecoming, kills radiation man at some point to get his power, kills Isaac to see that Nathan becomes president, then blows himself up in NY in order to get Nathan elected and/or to get the country against people with power.  He then regenerates with Claire's power.  After that, he kills Nathan (killing the shapeshifter first) to take over the Presidency.  Future Hiro lives through all these events and constructs his timeline and then tries to change it.  His first attempt is saving Claire via Peter.  It works, but history still repeats itself with minor changes.  Peter blows up NY, and somehow Sylar fakes his death.  He still kills Nathan, but doesn't get Claire until later...at that point he seems like he was going to take over the world.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 2, 2007, 11:28 AM
His first attempt is saving Claire via Peter.  It works, but history still repeats itself with minor changes.  Peter blows up NY, and somehow Sylar fakes his death.  He still kills Nathan, but doesn't get Claire until later...at that point he seems like he was going to take over the world.

The cool thing is - is that the younger 'hiro' mentioned about Sylars' capture and that there was a way to defeat him now because of that. I feel his capture only happened because of the cheerleader being saved and thus the slightly different history happened as a result.

I wonder if (after looking at previews) Hiro will go back again and try to kill Sylar at HRG's holding cell. What if Hiro went all the way back to before Mohinder's fathers' critical rejection interview with Sylar? I know it was not in the comic book but what if Hiro killed Sylar before he got his powers OR talked Mohinder's father into accepting Sylars' ability so he wouldn't go psycho from the rejection?

I guess Hiro can't go back to before Sylar got any of his powers and kill him because this whole series could have been over months ago ::).  --though he technically has the ability to do so.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on May 3, 2007, 07:24 AM
His first attempt is saving Claire via Peter.  It works, but history still repeats itself with minor changes.  Peter blows up NY, and somehow Sylar fakes his death.  He still kills Nathan, but doesn't get Claire until later...at that point he seems like he was going to take over the world.

The cool thing is - is that the younger 'hiro' mentioned about Sylars' capture and that there was a way to defeat him now because of that. I feel his capture only happened because of the cheerleader being saved and thus the slightly different history happened as a result.

I wonder if (after looking at previews) Hiro will go back again and try to kill Sylar at HRG's holding cell. What if Hiro went all the way back to before Mohinder's fathers' critical rejection interview with Sylar? I know it was not in the comic book but what if Hiro killed Sylar before he got his powers OR talked Mohinder's father into accepting Sylars' ability so he wouldn't go psycho from the rejection?

I guess Hiro can't go back to before Sylar got any of his powers and kill him because this whole series could have been over months ago ::).  --though he technically has the ability to do so.

I think it would take future Hiro to pull something like that off.  Present Hiro still doesn't have a real good handle on his abilities.  Even if Mohinder's father accepted Sylar, I still don't believe he is really stable.  I think we will learn more about Sylar next week, especially when he goes to see his mother.  Even when he was rejected, he still had a power...he could see how other peoples powers worked, and through killing them, could acquire those powers.

From the previews, it looks like Hiro does try to kill Sylar.  I'm thinking that Hiro freezes him, but somehow, Sylar can either fight it off or is immune to it.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 3, 2007, 11:10 AM
then, let say this happened...

future Sylar somehow managed to kill Peter(sylar could heal too), found future Hiro(who wasn't dead yet) and took future Hiro's ability, went back in time and stopped hiro    :P?

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 3, 2007, 07:02 PM
Is it me or have we seen this 'Molly' from the previews for next week?

I remember her from WAYYYY back in like the second episode. Her parents were killed by Sylar, and Matt read her mind and got her out from under the stairs? And then later in the episode Sylar went to the FBI Building trying to get to her but Matt and Audrey stopped him...

...I think thats her.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 3, 2007, 08:54 PM
Sounds good, your theory works if the shot of her in the preview is the present and not the future.

I wonder if we're done with the future now or if the final episodes are gonna jump all around giving me a headache?

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on May 4, 2007, 10:26 AM

Was that email  girl that was helping Bennett and got shot in the head? I think it was.


Give it a rest, it's a stupid 'joke' that a fool posted in here ::)




what the hell are you talking about, Sloth? 

Quack - I'm not sure who was with Bennett...could have been email girl...I didn't immediately recognizer her...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 4, 2007, 10:43 AM
Molly was the little girl Parkman found under the stairs earlier.  What she can do is a mystery, but it sounds like she has a really useful ability that can help stop Sylar.  Not sure what the "e-mail girl" stuff is about, but that was Hana/Wireless that was shot in the head.  Sylar is somehow immune to Hiro's ability, so how will Hiro not get his head sliced open?  That is my biggest question mark for Monday. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on May 4, 2007, 12:45 PM
ah yeah..that's her name...hannah/wireless.  i call her email girl.  close enough

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 4, 2007, 03:15 PM
What could she have been doing working for Bennett? Maybe shes locating heroes w/her power? I thought she hated him.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 4, 2007, 06:18 PM
Who cares really, it was a dumb enough character anyway with little value so they killed her off. She was so uncared about they didn't even show her getting killed.

Perhaps Sylar is immune to Hiro's ability because he has it like the idea I mentioned from above? or not ::).
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 4, 2007, 06:27 PM
Bennett talked Hana into helping him in the online graphic novels.  He convinced her that he was trying to go against Primatech to save Claire and possibly others.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 5, 2007, 12:35 PM
Oh I never read those graphic novels, couldnt access them.  :(

Thanks for the info, John.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 7, 2007, 11:39 PM
Awesome episode tonight.  I won't post about the plot in case anyone tivo'd it, but wow, this storyline just keeps me guessing.  And the ending tonight ...I don't know how they're going to make this last for two more episodes!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 8, 2007, 01:09 AM
SPOILER SPACE

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Now we know why Sylar is crazy.  He's just like his mom.  Interesting how they tried to humanize him, like he really doesn't want to kill but it looks like the power gets ahold of him and makes him do it.  He was losing it when he turned his mom's place into a snowglobe, then came back when he saw he scared her.  Now he'll be a loose cannon from here on out apparently.  I think Molly's virus will be used by Mohinder to take Sylar's power, and possibly craziness, away.  At this point I don't think Peter is the one that blows up.  I think it's Ted.  Peter will obviously get ahold of himself next week and then learn how to control the radioactivity/EMP power, and he can just fly away or teleport with Hiro's power if he loses it.  Now we are certain that Candace is an illusionist.  DL and Jessica are going to bust her @ss.  It looks like Sulu will somehow fix Hiro's sword next week, but that was really the only thing that stood out from the previews.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 8, 2007, 02:57 AM
SPOILERS





I think Sylar stopped Hiro one of 2 ways

-he can 'Freeze' time
-Hiro got weak because he couldn't kill-so it it was his weakness that lost his power-not Sylar's doing at all.

I DO like John's theory for the virus on Sylar- wonder if the show producer's thought of that one though :P

I think the sword his dad has is a better unbreakable one and his dad will make Hiro into a fearless warrior too.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 8, 2007, 10:11 PM
SPOILERS





I think Sylar stopped Hiro one of 2 ways

-he can 'Freeze' time
-Hiro got weak because he couldn't kill-so it it was his weakness that lost his power-not Sylar's doing at all.

I DO like John's theory for the virus on Sylar- wonder if the show producer's thought of that one though :P

I think the sword his dad has is a better unbreakable one and his dad will make Hiro into a fearless warrior too.

DS

SPOILERS


I think explanation #2 is correct.  Sylar has no power over time - if he did, he would just freeze time when killing his victims or at least stop anyone from running away.  Makes more sense that Hiro lost control - he has admitted that he doesn't really have much control over his powers.

Personally, I can't wait for Sylar to get his due.  They've done a great job of making him the guy to hate.  I'm worried about him becomming too powerful at this point.  I'm still not sure about who's going to explode, if anyone.  I'll be surprised if its Ted - he seems to be gaining so much more control over his power.  I still don't get what Linderman and company hope to gain out of killing off a million people.  They could easily expose that people have powers if they wanted to and they'll have Nathan in the president's office, so what more do they want? 

Here's a big Spoiler  guess for you.......................................I think Linderman is going to use Micah to control the voting results for the election, which is how Nathan gets elected despite being so far behind in the polls.   ;)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 9, 2007, 10:51 AM
Your guess is dead on.  Micah is needed to rig the election.  I think Ted is the exploding man because I can see him losing control when Sylar comes after him and starts cutting away.  Or maybe not.  Like I have said, part of the fun of this show is guessing what will happen next.  Peter and Hiro need to hang around Ted for a while to protect him from Sylar.  It is possible that the exploding man is someone we haven't seen yet, though. 
I have been thinking that maybe Hiro's dad has the real sword Hiro has been chasing and the one Linderman had was a copy.  Maybe we will also find out that the samurai who had it possessed the super gene and that sword has some of his power left in it.
I also agree that Hiro lets Sylar go because he really wasn't ready to kill.  I was at first thinking that maybe Sylar's TK protected him, but it looked like the mom fell down when Hiro took a swing, so time must have started up again.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on May 9, 2007, 03:32 PM
I wish the major heroes that we know about all knew about each other.  Peter has the perfect opportunity to kill Sylar. He absorbs Molly's and Ted's powers.  Thinks of where Sylar is, flys there, turns invisible to sneak up on him, uses Hiro's power to freeze time and then Ted's to vaporize him.  Problem solved.

He'd also have Parkman's power to read his mind to get a jump on him and Claire's power to heal so he can battle with him if he has to.  I think it's interesting, though, that Peter and Sylar are probably the two most powerful people we've met so far because Sylar is so bat-**** insane and Peter is kind of timid (although not as bad as Hiro at this point).

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 9, 2007, 09:34 PM
Any guesses on what Peter and NAthan's mom can do?  Or Linderman's power?  I know he can heal things, but is that it?  Maybe he can regenerate cells and he's super old.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 9, 2007, 11:46 PM
I think Mrs Petrelli can see the future, possibly in her dreams like Dream Girl from the LSH.  Peter was dreaming things about the future even before he met Isaac, so my guess is that he absorbed his mom's ability.  Linderman may be able to bring the dead back in addition to healing the sick/dying.  Why he doesn't heal Molly is a mystery.  Maybe the OWI infected her so they could use Mohinder to find a way to kill the virus. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 10, 2007, 09:20 AM
I think it would be interesting for them to say people with the super gene have been around forever and that all myths were stories told about those people, so Zeus, Thor, Isis and their like were all "Heroes".  People like Isaac dreamt up or saw their adventures and either wrote them down or started spreading the stories orally.  That's my crazy idea of the day.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2007, 01:19 PM
that would be cool for them to find a modern day Palpatine lightening wielding Zeus type of guy. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 10, 2007, 02:06 PM
Funny you should mention that.  They had a guy who used lightning in the last two online graphic novels. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 10, 2007, 03:28 PM
Did they? I've yet to view any of the graphic novels :-\.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 10, 2007, 07:20 PM
Did they? I've yet to view any of the graphic novels :-\.

Me too, I havent been able to access them. I am yet to see the last episode, I tivo'ed it.  :(
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: mousedroid on May 11, 2007, 01:42 PM
Maybe we will also find out that the samurai who had it possessed the super gene and that sword has some of his power left in it.
I'm of the opinion that we're eventually going to find out that samurai was Hiro (or maybe Sulu).
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 15, 2007, 08:47 AM
Another solid epsiode last night.  Good to see Hiro's dad is still a good guy.  I have no idea what his power is.  I thought he was going to tell Hiro that he was the samurai who used to own the sword. 

"My father is my hero."  Nathan's dad probably didn't kill himself.  I am guessing he found out what Linderman was up to and was bumped off, possibly betrayed by his wife who is an ice queen. 

Sad to see DL on his deathbed, although it looked like he would still be alive next week.  No love lost for Eric Roberts or Linderman.  Also sad to see Ted go.  I wanted him to put up more of a fight with Sylar.

Parkman again gets knocked around.  He is one clumsy oaf.  How the Hell he ever became a cop is a mystery. 

Peter and Sylar's fight may very well end in Peter's death.  I am guessing that Mohinder will show up with a syringe of the virus and shut Sylar down with it after he and Bennet agree to work together and take Molly away from the OWI. 

I wonder if we will see what Candace really looks like when she dies.  I am guessing she looks somewhat like Rosie O Donnell.

Good to hear that NBC will give us 30 episodes of Heroes along with Heroes: Origins next season.  That should help keep up interest in the series and keep the ratings up for them, plus it will get viewers involved with character selection.  Six episodes of Origins with six new Heroes for the viewers to vote on is a great idea by NBC.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 15, 2007, 02:04 PM
I thought last night's episode was terrific!  I was a little bothered that they offed so many people in one show, who knows if they're all truly dead.  I was happy to see Ted go - he was sort of a wasted character IMO.  I'm indifferent on Linderman and Eric Roberts - They both died pretty senselessly and its nice to have some bad guys around other than Sylar.  Will be interesting to see who replaces ER at the agency and I'm just not convinced that Linderman is gone.  He's involved in almost every episode - I think it would be a shame if that plot line just vanished. 

As for Sylar, I think he'll kill Ando and that will finally drive hiro to slice him.  I don't think that will kill him though - he seems almost as indestructible as Peter despite not having Claire's power.  I think Sylar and Peter will have to face off at some point, but I don't know if that will come next week.  Peter seems fairly indestructible given that he survived the shard of glass through his brain and Future Peter survived the explosion that took out New York.  I don't get why Future Pete had a scar though - if he had the healing factor, then the scar shouldn't have been there. 

Definitely looking forward to next week!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on May 15, 2007, 03:59 PM
I think that future Peter left the scar to remind him of something.  His failure to kill Sylar, the fact he blew up NY...something. 

I was surprised about Linderman but not DL or any of the others that got capped last night.  Ted should have known what was coming and gone nuclear on Sylar, it's not like he couldn't have melted his way out of restraints to defend himself.

With him deak that really only leaves Hiro and Peter that have the ability to kill Sylar.  Claire could assist by delivering Mohinders virus to shut him down, maybe, but I don't think she could kill him.  I'm guessing that someone is going to explode next week and that's going to be the ending we have to think about for the summer.

And as much as I love this show, that's just going to piss me off.   :P

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 15, 2007, 05:46 PM
I think the NUKE is caused by not one person but by 2 or even 3. I think the fight between Peter and Sylar cause the NUKE and perhaps they're melting down when Hiro freezes everything and stabs Sylar..who blows up-leaving it up to the next season to find out what happened of it. Shall we break down the powers between the 3 'heroes?'

Sylar                                     Peter                                                  Hiro

Freeze/cold power                   Everything Sylar has plus..                      Time/place alter
Super Hearing                         Invisibility                                            A cool sword
Radiation/heat                        Reading minds
Telechenetic ability                  Flight
Metal break down                    Invincibilty(unless brain attacked)
Artist future painter                 Time/place alter?
Librarian's memory                  -could Peter have the Haitan's Ability??
??

Advantage Peter, by a mile-which is why I never understand why he is always getting his ass handed to him-- Oh I forgot he doesn't have the Librarian ability so he can't remember all the things he can do and use them on Sylar :P? I guess it makes it entertainment(good TV) though to draw them up even in a fight.

We still don't know about the first couple folks Sylar killed and their talents...I guess the Ice ability is one we didn't know of until the last couple of episodes. Perhaps in the beginning ..was it 3rd episode? that they showed the 'board' where Mohinder pointed out how Sylar was killing others. Maybe he got his Ice from one of them..what else?

I'm glad the bastards in Linderman Corp(Incl. Linderman) got their asses kicked. I wonder though, about Linderman's heal ability......

I find it interesting that DL, Nikki and Micah never crossed paths with Peter... Imagine all the power he could have? Perhaps next year Peter will become the new villian?

DS

EDIT: I forgot Peter can take any ability from Sylar if Sylar uses it, so, NM on that comment.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 16, 2007, 08:42 AM
Sylar took the ice power from one of Molly's parents when he killed them.  I like your theory about the cliffhangar.  If Peter does have the Haitian's powers and knows how to use them, he would be pretty much unstoppable and no way in Hell Sylar could even scratch him.  One thing that I just thought of last night about the explosion.  Hiro can freeze time and teleport people.  Why the Hell doesn't he just stop time right before the explosion occurs and teleport the "Exploding Man" to the desert?  His future self could have told him when and where to be.  I guess we will see on Monday how this all plays out.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 16, 2007, 10:31 AM


I'm glad the bastards in Linderman Corp(Incl. Linderman) got their asses kicked. I wonder though, about Linderman's heal ability......


Thats what I felt when I watched this on Tivo last night. It was a strong episode, but shocking. It does suck to see DL as good as dead and slightly a bummer to know Candace is dead meat, she was getting interesting.

Anyone else noticed that Hayden (Claire) is becoming a progressively worse actress?

Im very excited for next week, it should be interesting!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 16, 2007, 10:48 AM
One thing that I just thought of last night about the explosion.  Hiro can freeze time and teleport people.  Why the Hell doesn't he just stop time right before the explosion occurs and teleport the "Exploding Man" to the desert?  His future self could have told him when and where to be. 

That sounds good except...how would Hiro grab Sylar? So maybe it's a 3 way group hug and time/space warp to the desert, because Hiro can't touch Sylar heating up or be killed -so maybe he grabs Peter, who can heal and he grabs 'the bomb' and they fly or warp to the desert? or the higher atmospheres? Hmmmm


Seems like Claire is becoming a less convincing actress to me too. Could it be they told her she would be killed soon, so she's less motivated to care? Or maybe this is purposeful- because the producers know she has a fanbase-so if they kill her off after a couple of off/down weeks of acting it may soften the load of a loss??

Hmmm can't wait for the final episode..and hopefully a 2 hour one to explain alot of stuff and to leave more cliffhangers for next season!

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on May 16, 2007, 11:45 AM
all of the actors are hit or miss.  especially parkman and mohinder.  yikes.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on May 17, 2007, 07:28 AM
Sylar took the ice power from one of Molly's parents when he killed them.  I like your theory about the cliffhangar.  If Peter does have the Haitian's powers and knows how to use them, he would be pretty much unstoppable and no way in Hell Sylar could even scratch him.  One thing that I just thought of last night about the explosion.  Hiro can freeze time and teleport people.  Why the Hell doesn't he just stop time right before the explosion occurs and teleport the "Exploding Man" to the desert?  His future self could have told him when and where to be.  I guess we will see on Monday how this all plays out.

Why would Peter just grab Sylar and transport him...he would have Hiro's power if they ran into each other.

Plus, do we actually know if Peter has all of Sylar's abilities?  We haven't seen him use any.  He should have Sylar's ability to see how powers work.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 17, 2007, 10:15 AM
Why would Peter just grab Sylar and transport him...he would have Hiro's power if they ran into each other.

Plus, do we actually know if Peter has all of Sylar's abilities?  We haven't seen him use any.  He should have Sylar's ability to see how powers work.

I don't know/haven't seen 2 powers used at once yet.

Yes, we have-how else was Peter able to throw Sylar across the room while he was floating in the air? Telechenesis much?

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Famine on May 17, 2007, 11:29 AM
Telechenesis much?

I'm trying to quit.

Kevin
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 17, 2007, 02:15 PM
all of the actors are hit or miss.  especially parkman and mohinder.  yikes.

Parkmans actually one f the better actors. I like that Audrey Hansen FBI character, too, and its nice to see her back. I hope they dont kill her off.

I wouldnt mind seeing Claire go, but DL...thats gonna be a bummer.  :(

I just realized that Im gonna be at the Grand Canyon next week, starting Monday, so Ill miss the finale by mere hours.  :'( Thank God for Tivo!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 18, 2007, 02:14 PM
all of the actors are hit or miss.  especially parkman and mohinder.  yikes.

Parkmans actually one f the better actors. I like that Audrey Hansen FBI character, too, and its nice to see her back. I hope they dont kill her off.

I wouldnt mind seeing Claire go, but DL...thats gonna be a bummer.  :(

I just realized that Im gonna be at the Grand Canyon next week, starting Monday, so Ill miss the finale by mere hours.  :'( Thank God for Tivo!!!   ;D

Your favorite characters are Parkman, Audrey, & DL, but you would be okay with Claire getting bumped off?  What!?  We must be polar opposites.  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 02:36 AM
Spoilers*******





On the 'Peter vision'  --You see Peter's brother approaching him in the end as it looks like Peter is going Nuclear. I think what happens here is Peter cannot control the rads power and his brother and him devise a plan to fly up into the outer atmospheres together to safely detonate the man-bomb while sacrificing themselves.

We'll see ;)

DS


How did I know? foresight ability much? Well, I was wrong about them devising a plan but the rest is close!


--The new villian they introduced kind-of that mollie said would see her; must be someone who took Sylar's body for study? Weird Hiro ending...was left saying huh? DL making it? cool!  Shapeshifter chick...is she dead? I liked Peter's tie in story about Simones' dad-- Don't really understand this ability that man had though.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 22, 2007, 08:56 AM
Good call on that.  The finale was just okay IMO.  I guess I expected more bang or something.  Maybe I am also feeling like the layoff will nopt go by quickly enough.  I am sure Peter and Nathan will both show up again along with Sylar.  They could have and should have killed Parkman.  He is an idiot.  Glad to see Nikki knows she has the strength to use her strength.  No more Jessica.  I don't think Candace is dead, just knocked out.  I think that super villain Molly mentioned may be that Uluru that was shown in the comic book Micah read in one of the first episodes.  We will probably find out more about Simone's dad next season.  I think the reason it was called "Generations" is because we will see different groups of "Heroes" throughout the history.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 11:19 AM
If they kill-off Parkman, then this might be one way for them to do it.

They could go to the hospital to visit him- where he would be on the deathbed..where he tells mollie that, why he was lying there on the ground after being 'shot' by Sylar, he read the mind of the new bad-guy she fears and read into his plans perhaps with sylar or sylar's dead body. Then, he croaks.

I don't know how Nathan can be alive, I fear he is dead- unless.....he flew up there, released Peter in the high stratosphere then warped away so he wouldn't explode(since Nathan cannot heal). If they both live, Peter will be the new leader of the group with Nathan being the Manager/President with all the power to help the heroes. Will the mother join the villians' team?? That bitch- she plays a good part because I love to hate her.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on May 22, 2007, 11:24 AM
so yeah...apparently peter can't combine powers...otherwise he'd have flown himself away, or time warped himself to safety....

so why then would he be able to simultaneously explode and heal?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on May 22, 2007, 12:12 PM
because itsa tv show and they can change the rules to make for better story :P
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 22, 2007, 03:49 PM
Didn't Peter use tk with invisibility when he and Isaac were fighting?  Maybe it was just invisibility.  I think he didn't fly himself or teleport himself was because he was in a panic and was just trying to not blow up.  The thing about him surviving the blast would be because Ted had no ill effects from the radiation, so Peter would also be immune to it.  plus, even if it did kill him, he would regenerate afterwards.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on May 22, 2007, 04:01 PM
so yeah...apparently peter can't combine powers...otherwise he'd have flown himself away, or time warped himself to safety....

so why then would he be able to simultaneously explode and heal?

I don't think he needs to heal from exploding - Ted didn't have a healing power, but his body was immune to whatever bursts of energy he gave off.  NITRO from the Marvel comics series causes a massive explosion around himself, but the 3ft or so radius all around his body is a safe zone.  Call it personal shielding or some kind of physical defense against whatever power/energy he's creating.

That being said, he may be able to use multiple powers at once, but just doesn't know how.  Peter definitely has confidence issues about his powers and hasn't had much practice using any of them.  He seems to have the invisibility thing down, but he's worked a lot on that with the old-timer he got the power from.  Maybe he just lacks the control to use them at the same time in volume I.   ;)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 29, 2007, 07:39 PM
I just saw this a couple days ago, I was on vacation so couldnt comment...

Next season will make or break this show, its sounds like itll either be awesome kickass OR painful and boring.

Its a bummer to see Parkman dead, esp. with his pregnant wife at home. I wonder if well see her and the baby again? On the 'five years into the future' episode they made it seem like they had powers.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on May 30, 2007, 08:58 AM
I don't think Parkman can be counted out yet.  He was still alive at the end of the episode, but was in really bad shape.  We won't know for certain until the fall.  His kid will most likely have powers if that is truly his and not his ex-friend's.   
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on May 31, 2007, 07:29 PM
I don't think Parkman can be counted out yet.  He was still alive at the end of the episode, but was in really bad shape.  We won't know for certain until the fall.  His kid will most likely have powers if that is truly his and not his ex-friend's.   

That would be such a sad, yet interesting, surprise, if it was his ex-friend's baby. I am nterested in Parkman and wife and baby the most now for the fall return.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on June 1, 2007, 08:36 AM
I'm most interested in what happened to Peter.  He's by far the coolest character on the show.  That and I want to know what his mom's power is...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on September 25, 2007, 01:12 AM
Anyone catch the episode tonight?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 25, 2007, 02:17 AM
I seen it......phew!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Straxus on September 25, 2007, 07:46 AM
Glad to see that they have not lost their touch. Great episode! I was almost worried before watching it that it would be a slow start.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on September 25, 2007, 10:16 AM
That was a GREAT episode.

**SPOILER ALERT**

Somewhat disappointed with Sulu's death, there were a lot more questions about his character that have gone unanswered.

I think Angela won't be around much longer either, which is a shame because that is an interesting character as well.

The illegal immigrant brother and sister were interesting as well. Who wants to bet that Claire's real mom (Meridith-lady who can start fire from fingers) will come in contact with them or help in some way? Last time we heard anything about her she was leaving for Mexico for unexplained reasons. Could she have gotten the little picture of herself with the mysterious symbol on it and fled?

I'm a little worried about the Kensei character and Hiro. The writers are gonna have to explain a lot about how history is fixed (or broken), let's just hope they execute it well and don't ruin the season.

And the company is still alive! This time, it's led by King Midas. Weird.  :-\

So, let the speculation begin: who's the hooded guy who was sent to kill Sulu? Someone we already know or some new bad guy? And did he survive the fall?

Great (Nikki-less  :()episode. I'd still like to see what happens to DL, and Kandace (shapeshifter), Invisible Guy, the Haitian, and Matt's wife and kid, who seemed to have powers at the end of the last season.


Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on September 25, 2007, 11:43 PM
I loved it!  Great to see that *SPOILER ALERT* Nathan & Peter are still alive.  They're setting up a number of great subplots as usual, so should be a very interesting season.  Rumor is that the really really bad guy (the one worse than Sylar) with show up in Episode #5.   ;)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 2, 2007, 09:50 AM
Another great episode last night. I thought for sure that **SPOILER ALERT** Angela was a goner. It's also good to see the Haitian back after like five episodes. But still no Nikki or Sylar!  :( I wonder if Claire's Nissan being gone was related to the stuff going on in the past in Japan? I'll be interested in seeing an explanation for that if that's the case.

EDIT: Oh, and how did HRG's wife have any idea who Nakamura was in that article? I found that very strange. Maybe she's the shapeshifter again...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on October 2, 2007, 10:32 AM
HRG shared all his secrets with his wife.  Thus she knows all about the Company and all the associated parties.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: jadesfire on October 2, 2007, 04:38 PM
Hmm....I didn't know that he shared all the secrets with her.  So-just what is the power of the twins???
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on October 2, 2007, 05:24 PM
He turns into forms of water, and she turns into animals...

(http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superfriends/wonder-twins1.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 2, 2007, 10:26 PM
Hmm....I didn't know that he shared all the secrets with her.  So-just what is the power of the twins???

I was wondering the same thing. I think that when Allejandro gets angry or scared, anyone around Maya dies with blood spilling out of their eyes. However, another possibility is that Maya does this to people and just can't control it, and Allejandro has the ability to heal Maya's victims.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on October 5, 2007, 04:51 PM
IMO Maya has a power like Ted.  It is destructive when not controlled and people will die.  Alejandro can help stabilize her and can heal the poison/virus/whatever she creates.  I wonder if he can heal other stuff as well?  Methinks he will be killed off and Maya will have to learn control or else.  Angela likes to get around, huh?  Hiro could be her son and it wouldn't shock me.  Decent first episode, better second IMO.  Journeyman is also a must see show IMO.  I tried Chuck and didn't like it , though.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on October 5, 2007, 05:27 PM
I'm not very excited about Chuck either.  Can't tell if its the show or all of the hoopla and media blitz the amped up my expectations.

A lesser advertised, but pretty fun new show is Reaper, about a guy who has to go work for the devil as of his 21st birthday because his parents sold his soul before he was born.  His hilarious sidekick is the chubby funny brother from the cancelled Invasion series - think Jack Black meets Christian Slater.  I can't stop laughing between that guy and the mortal incarnation of "The Devil."
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 6, 2007, 10:44 AM
I Tivo'ed that new show Pushing Daisies on ABC and it was very funny and very different. I hope it stays this good (it probably won't :-\).

I think Chuck is okay, I'll probably start watching it because it's on before Heroes.

Bionic Woman, however, was pretty lame I think. I don't plan on watching any more of that.  :P


Angela likes to get around, huh?  Hiro could be her son and it wouldn't shock me.  Decent first episode, better second IMO. 

I was thinking the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 9, 2007, 09:33 AM
Another great episode last night.

*SPOLIER ALERT*

I knew DL's death was coming, even though it didn't seem like it at the end of last season.

Kandace came back and got her head open by Sylar with a 'have a nice day' mug. It turns out Kandace's true form was a very fat woman. Sylar is also infected by the virus.

The guy who stole Clair's car is driving Allejandro and Maya around in Mexico.

According to painting 8/8, HRG is doomed.

And Micah has been sent to live with Uhura.

Very eventful episode, I though it was the best new one so far.  :)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on October 9, 2007, 11:51 AM
Each episode has been better than the last.  I am guessing DL had the virus.  I liked that character, but at least his power lives on in Peter.  Candice/Michelle's origin story was posted in the online graphic novels.  Her real name was Betty.  I wonder if she is truly dead.  If she is, then she was stupid to get that close to Sylar.  The company apparently wants him for something.  Good catch on the car.  I didn't notice that. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 9, 2007, 03:55 PM
Is DL really dead? Or..for some reason, is his death faked?-I think it's possible though I can't find a reason yet for faking his death.

I think it's another reason 'the company' wanted a cure to the virus so they could use it on sylar to study him more. Either they purposely sent sylar there with the changeling so he could take her ability by design or they underestimated him severely(where the hell are they anyway? South, central america or an island?).

I have a growing suspicion that Kensei is the REALLY bad guy or, another bad guy)and that he is killing the former people(like Hiro's dad) off. He seemed self-seduced to the possible power route when he realized he couldn't be hurt. He totally could be still alive if he has this healing ability.

I wonder if somewhere along the line 'the company' drew DNA from Kensei and HRG injected it into the cheerleader. Her new 'flying ability' partner's story about the injection opens up alot of possibilties to other heroes having same abilities. There's alot we don't know about 'the company's endeavors in the past and present.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on October 10, 2007, 07:34 AM
Each episode has been better than the last.  I am guessing DL had the virus.  I liked that character, but at least his power lives on in Peter.  Candice/Michelle's origin story was posted in the online graphic novels.  Her real name was Betty.  I wonder if she is truly dead.  If she is, then she was stupid to get that close to Sylar.  The company apparently wants him for something.  Good catch on the car.  I didn't notice that. 

DL's death was also on the net through Linderman's hotel website.  If you have been to Hana Gittleman's (the woman who can move through the internet that debuted in Ted Sprague's hut last season) website (samantha48616e61.com), she has taken over Linderman's hotel website (just do a search for Daniel Linderman and you'll find the site).  She has on-line chats with Micah (similar to what was in the comics) and chat number two had Micah mention that he lost his dad before the episode aired.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 17, 2007, 10:19 AM
I have to say I am a bit disappointed with this season so far. Its feels like its lacking that umph and has some inconsistencies. How did Hiro fit a novel in a sword too.

Anyone else feel underwhelmed by this season so far?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on October 17, 2007, 06:02 PM
I have to say I am a bit disappointed with this season so far. Its feels like its lacking that umph and has some inconsistencies. How did Hiro fit a novel in a sword too.

Anyone else feel underwhelmed by this season so far?


I thought the season started off well, but this last episode was a bit lackluster for me.  They're moving the story forward with the picture of all the old heroes showing up and Sylar meeting the Mexican twins, but it feels like a little too much set up.  How the heck did Sylar get to Mexico?  What will happen when Claire's boyfriend meets her dad? Who is killing off the old heroes?  When will Hiro return?  What happened to Nathan and his marriage?  Where the heck is Nikki?  What's the story behind the company and the virus?  And they're bringing in another new hero next week?  I like multiple plot lines, but I think they're trying to cover too much, and it shows when a bunch of these storylines are not progressing each week.  Still one of my favorite shows though.   :D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 17, 2007, 09:16 PM
I think this season has been excellent, with each episode getting better and better every week.

**SPOILER ALERT**

Last time we saw Sylar he was in the middle of a forest, which was probably in Mexico, and he did a lot of walking until he ended up dehydrated/exhausted on the side of the road.

I think the new hero from this week (Uhura's granddaughter) is a decent character with an interesting power.

I doubt that Parkman's dad is the 'Nightmare Boogie Monster Man' from Molly's dreams. I bet that he's gonna end up being a hostage of the real bad guy, used to distract Parkman while Nikki/Jessica goes in working for Bob (King Midas) and gets rid of relatively unguarded Molly. I think the real bad guy is gonna end up being Kensei. That would make a lot of sense. The symbols in her drawings, the fact that there wasn't a scratch on the killer after he jumped off the roof with Sulu, it all points to him in my opinion.

I bet Veronica Mars (next week's new hero) will be working for Nathan Petrelli and searching for Peter. And I bet this will lower the Irish family's life expectancy when they try to defend him from her.

Another great episode...although I am getting REALLY tired of Claire and West. Boring characters with bad actors.  :P
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on October 17, 2007, 09:43 PM
I think I read that they're going to do an ep that covers the missing 4 months.  Sort of like the Six Months Ago ep from season 1.

On another note, though, next week is a great week for Kristen Bell fans.  She's making her debut on Heroes and season 3 of Veronica Mars drops!

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Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 17, 2007, 10:25 PM
I think the real bad guy is gonna end up being Kensei. That would make a lot of sense. The symbols in her drawings, the fact that there wasn't a scratch on the killer after he jumped off the roof with Sulu, it all points to him in my opinion.


I mentioned that earlier too. Though I think they're are 3 new bad guys...

Sylar
?Kensei?
Nightmare man

I think this 'nightmare' man has an ability that he can appear to folks in their meditations and dreams as a real entity..though he really isn't there..a sort of 'sandman' if you will. Hard to tell if the bad guy Molly sees is Kensei or this new Nightmare guy.

I think this other unknown nightmare/sandman guy attacked Peters' mom in the cell- through a dream, he could have attacked Hiro's father by jumping off the balcony with him(He wouldn't really die since he's not really there-just a dream form)- I think he tries to enter Molly's mind too-he knows she can find him.

I think it's possible the nightmare man will be long gone and Parkman will find his dead father after the nightmare man was there and killed him.

Interestingly enough though it appears as if Peter could become a new bad guy in the preview. I really don't like the flood of new heroes into the show. I fully expect to see many of last seasons' Heroes killed off to make way for the newly introduced ones--which(I better like them or this show is gonna tank quick for me).

Seems right now that some areas are progressing too slowly for me while others are progressing too quickly. Luckily, I still have interest..but it's beginning to wane.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 19, 2007, 10:21 PM
Seems right now that some areas are progressing too slowly for me while others are progressing too quickly. Luckily, I still have interest..but it's beginning to wane.
DS

I agree. While episode 4 picked up a bit there are too many story lines going on at once. I will hang in there but I do not want to meet new heroes every week. Lets work with the great characters that were introduced and stick with them more than one season.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on October 23, 2007, 03:47 PM
Well at least we now know who Peter got those electrocity powers from.  Looking forward to the flashback first meeting between him and evil Veronica Mars.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on October 23, 2007, 05:01 PM
Well at least we now know who Peter got those electrocity powers from.  Looking forward to the flashback first meeting between him and evil Veronica Mars.

That whole storyline last night was really lame.  She shows up, introduces herself, *SPOILER*, kills that dude, and then is called off before getting to Peter?  What?!  I did like the part with Hartman's dad though.  If he was telling the truth about them havin the same power and that power still developing, AND if the rumors are true that there are a finite # of powers available, then I wonder if Hartman and dad are related to the woman that was holding Sylar captive via illusion in the earlier episodes (Kandace?).  If so, could she read minds or did she access a different part of the same ability? 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on October 23, 2007, 06:18 PM
Spoilers may apply here....


I don't think Peter has Elle's powers yet.  If you're talking about him shooting "lightning" out of his hands this season I think those are Ted's nuclear powers

I think you mean Parkman, not Hartman.  Candice had the power of illusion and that seems to be what Parkman's father had as well but it will be interesting to see if Matt has that as well or if he can just read minds.  We've already seen that there is more to Claire's power than just healing wounds so it's possible that Matt and others have just touched on the surface of what they can do.

As far as a there being a finite number of powers goes, that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of them!  We've already seen at least five new powers this season.

Clair can regenerate, not just heal.  Bob can turn things to gold.  Elle controls electricity.  The twins have some killing/healing power and Micah's cousin is a mimic.  Parkman's dad can create illusions that may or may not be the same as Candice's power.  If it's different then that's six.  Plus all of last season's heroes and all of the powers that Sylar absorbed, not all of which have been shown yet, that's a lot of possibilities.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on October 23, 2007, 06:38 PM
Spoilers may apply here....

I don't think Peter has Elle's powers yet.  If you're talking about him shooting "lightning" out of his hands this season I think those are Ted's nuclear powers


When Peter used Ted's powers, his hands glowed red, not blue.  I really think evil Veronica Mars and Peter have met up before.  I hope we find out for certain soon.

Parkman's dad can create illusions that may or may not be the same as Candice's power. 
 

I think Parkman's dad's power is more telepathy based.  He specifically said to Parkman when he found out he had the same powers that mind reading is just the beginning and so much more can be done.  I think what we saw with Dad and Nathan and Parkman was Dad in their minds "creating" their biggest fears.  And we saw a bit of Parkman's powers expanding when he and Nathan were fighting.  Instead of reading Nathan's mind, he entered it and told him to stop hitting him in the head.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on October 23, 2007, 11:13 PM
Actually, when Ted used his powers in season 1 to generate the EM pulse while he was trying to break out with Parkman and HRG his hands glowed blue.  And since Peter didn't seem to burn the guys he tossed across the shipping container it seemed to be more of an energy punch than a burn.

Elle burned the **** out of the dude in the bar with her power. 

We'll see.  They may have met but I'm thinking at this point it was Ted's power Peter used in the shipping container.

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Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 23, 2007, 11:28 PM
I want to know more about the new rogue mimic girl.
I wonder if she only has to see it to do it...then is there a limit to what she can do?
So she could stop time, cast fireballs, lightning..use telechenetic ability ect if she sees it?
With the way the show seems to be casting out characters....then does Peter get knocked off next and mimic girl becomes the next Peter?

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on October 30, 2007, 01:07 PM
Last night's episode was the best yet IMO.  Lots of betryals/people doing bad things to others.  HRG is a bad@ss mofo.  Don't mess with him or you die.  Another biblical name in Adam.  I wonder if he's Kensei or someone else?  Adam would be a fitting name for the original SG human.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on October 30, 2007, 04:13 PM
Even though they split the show across 6 story lines, last night's episode was one of the better ones this season.  Just looks like it took them a couple weeks to hit their stride.

I'm really interested in what's going on with Bob and the company.  After trying to press Suresh into giving Monica that shot it looks like he just gave up and took her home while HRG is executing guys in their living rooms. 

The trailers were right, to an extent, they mixed it up and kind of left us guessing who the good guys really might be. 

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Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on October 30, 2007, 05:54 PM
Sorry guys...I disagree!

I was really dissapointed in last nights' episode.

Why do I feel the producers change the story as they go along? I swear they listen to fans' comms on the net and change up their story to try and 'surprise' folks. At some point though, you have to deliver a believable storyline which IMO the show is failing to do right now. So then what your left with is cleaning up a huge mess of too many subplots you've created over the year to create a climatic ending- which I fear in this case, will be not so climatic. I'm trying to not get too excited in this show anymore this year so the ending will possibly impress me...it's difficult.... the way the shows heading I may not make it to the end.

I tire of the comic book-on line photo novel story filler fodder here too. There's really little correlation to the on line show. See that? I said little- meaning insignificant.

My thoughts

Hiro's betrayal, dumb- why not kill the guy off like everyone else this year(not that I want to see Hiro dead
                              but, it seems to be the show pattern annually..kill off prior season members to make
                              room for new cast next year)
HRG's murderous intent- overrated, we already knew he was more than capable of this- a big nothing waste
                                 show air time for this segment...all this to somehow intro this lame Ukranian's
                                 daughter? Is she the lightning girl =  -dumb, who cares
Sylar's whiny powerless- Anyone else tired of this? what did it take, 3-4 episodes to enter the US? Oh,
                                 Sylar will kill them when he has his power? Yeah, duh. Just when will that be-I'm
                                 wondering when that will be-his powerless condition is a story element that needs
                                 to speed up, if they wanted to bring him back in this episode, then this wasn't the
                                 way, lemme guess...just when we get bored of his whiny condition he gets all his
                                 powers back just in time for the final Episode so he can have a big battle again ::)
Peter's new hitchhiker- I really dislike the new sandbag tagalong girfriend, look if she has no power then
                                kill her off the show already(mistaken sub character development)
Suresh can't do it.......- I told my son before the show came back from commercial that mohinder will not
                                give the girl a shot- he's the same guy-An A, thanks for the no-change heroestaff.
                                ..but, right back to a D for intoducing yet another subplot with Nikki as the partner
                                and the 'new' characters' name here
Micah,Matt,Peter's bro - not explored..yeah, imagine- like last year we get to start going back and forth
                                  between episodes covering storylines and characters (because there's too many)
                                  so that we can pull them all together for a messy, not-so-climatic ending(I really
                                  want to be wrong though)
Cheerleader saga        - I actually enjoyed this segment of last nights' show.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on November 2, 2007, 03:07 PM
I bet Adam Monroe is Kensei. And I bet that Japanese lady was supposed to be Hiro's great great grandmother or something and he's messing up history by falling in love with her and making Kensei mad.

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on November 2, 2007, 03:13 PM
I want to know more about the new rogue mimic girl.
I wonder if she only has to see it to do it...then is there a limit to what she can do?
So she could stop time, cast fireballs, lightning..use telechenetic ability ect if she sees it?
With the way the show seems to be casting out characters....then does Peter get knocked off next and mimic girl becomes the next Peter?

DS

I suspect that she can copy actions and skills that her body is capable of following, but I don't think she can absorb and re-use powers the way Peter and Sylar can.  She doesn't seem to have Micah's ability to control tech for example. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on November 2, 2007, 03:18 PM
She doesn't seem to have Micah's ability to control tech for example. 

If so, they would've shown her doing the eyeball thing when Micah fixed the TV.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on November 2, 2007, 06:31 PM
She doesn't seem to have Micah's ability to control tech for example. 

If so, they would've shown her doing the eyeball thing when Micah fixed the TV.

Exactly.  For those of you old-skule marvel comics readers, she has the same power as the Taskmaster.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth Slothus on November 2, 2007, 07:47 PM
interesting take on that-I'll provide the opposite viewpoint.

I didn't necessarily see her try to copy his ability and fail at it either.
Have they shown her doing her eye thing at every single thing going on? no.
 
With that in mind it's hard for me to believe she can't do those supernatural things yet until she has actually tried and failed at them.

So, I still wonder if it's possible with her.

DS
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on November 2, 2007, 08:25 PM
She doesn't seem to have Micah's ability to control tech for example. 

If so, they would've shown her doing the eyeball thing when Micah fixed the TV.

Exactly.  For those of you old-skule marvel comics readers, she has the same power as the Taskmaster.

righto....muscle mimic.  For the youngsters..taskmaster could watch spiderman fight and duplicate his fighting style, but he couldn't cling to walls.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Smartypants1635 on November 2, 2007, 11:54 PM
Exactly shes just adding the muscle memory to her mind.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on November 3, 2007, 12:14 AM
interesting take on that-I'll provide the opposite viewpoint.

I didn't necessarily see her try to copy his ability and fail at it either.
Have they shown her doing her eye thing at every single thing going on? no.
 
With that in mind it's hard for me to believe she can't do those supernatural things yet until she has actually tried and failed at them.

So, I still wonder if it's possible with her.

DS

I'd be willing to put money on her not being able to mimic actual powers.  The only thing that makes me think your theory might be right is something I read way back in EW from the creators that said there would be a finite number of powers among the Heroes, but that those powers might initially manifest themselves in different ways.  If that is true, then she, Peter, and Sylar may all have the same power.  Likewise, Parkman, the illusionist chick, and Parkman's dad all may have the same power of reading/messing with people's minds.  For now, I'm sticking with the guess that she's just able to copy non-powered skills.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JayDouble on November 6, 2007, 01:08 AM
Pretty good episode tonight. 

The question I have is, did Hiro mess up the past and that's why things are playing out like this?  Or are the stories he heard as a kid really from the princess and didn't happen?  I'm so confused.   ???
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on November 6, 2007, 10:51 AM
I think the princess is gonna know to be careful when telling the stories so that she doesn't mess up history (at least not too much).

**SPOILERS**

I knew it! I knew Kensei would end up being Adam! It's probably the English name he was telling Hiro about earlier. I think Adam killed Sulu (because he didn't have a scratch on him after falling from the roof), then he attacked Angela, and then something happened when he went to kill Matt's dad, and Matt's dad began working for him. Matt's dad went to kill Bob, then was defeated (or at least it looks like it). So now out of the orignial twelve, Charles, Sulu, Linderman, and Angela's husband ae dead, and Bob, Angela, Matt's dad, and five mystery others from the picture remain. I wonder if Adam/Kensei is the one who took the picture and is one of the twelve?

Next week is the 'Four Months Ago' episode!

the show seems to be casting out characters....

I couldn't resist...

Make new heroes,
and kill the old.
One time travels,
and another makes gold!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on November 9, 2007, 09:22 AM
Apparently the people behind Heroes recognized the issues we all had with the early episodes of the show.

Interview with Tim Kring (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html)

Unfortunately, with the writers strike on, we might only get this 5 episode arc that takes us to December and then our season might be over.

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Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: John C on November 9, 2007, 09:53 AM
I really didn't have too many issues with this season.  I agree that the Hiro story went on too long and there could have been less Claire/West, but other than that, the pacing is about the same as last season.  There is far too much hate towards the show IMO.  It is good that Kring says he made some mistakes and corrects them from here on out.  Hopefully the writer's strike gets wrapped up in time to save the season.  If not, maybe they will be able to do the Origins miniseries eventually. 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on November 12, 2007, 08:35 AM
I think the princess is gonna know to be careful when telling the stories so that she doesn't mess up history (at least not too much).

**SPOILERS**

I knew it! I knew Kensei would end up being Adam! It's probably the English name he was telling Hiro about earlier. I think Adam killed Sulu (because he didn't have a scratch on him after falling from the roof), then he attacked Angela, and then something happened when he went to kill Matt's dad, and Matt's dad began working for him. Matt's dad went to kill Bob, then was defeated (or at least it looks like it). So now out of the orignial twelve, Charles, Sulu, Linderman, and Angela's husband ae dead, and Bob, Angela, Matt's dad, and five mystery others from the picture remain. I wonder if Adam/Kensei is the one who took the picture and is one of the twelve?

Next week is the 'Four Months Ago' episode!

the show seems to be casting out characters....

I couldn't resist...

Make new heroes,
and kill the old.
One time travels,
and another makes gold!


I would think it would have been Matt's Dad who tried to kill Angela since she didn't see any attacker and the doctors seemed to think that she attacked herself.  I think Matt's Dad has always been working for Adam, and just had the picture with the symbol to throw Matt of the trail.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on November 13, 2007, 09:15 AM
Well at least we now know who Peter got those electrocity powers from.  Looking forward to the flashback first meeting between him and evil Veronica Mars.

Told ya, but then again I thought it was pretty obvious.

Elle's a horny little minx, ain't she?  She was all over Peter's junk.  She certainly looked great in those outfits too.

And I really really hate the Wonder Twins storyline.  When's Sylar going to eat their brains?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on November 13, 2007, 09:43 AM
I can't stand those twins! Terrible storyline, I too am wondering when Sylar eats their brains. Hmm...maybe they'll end up killing Sylar... :o Speaking of Sylar, I thught we'd get an explanation for where he went after the bomb in this episode.

DL's death was a real bummer!  :-\ Did Uhura say she was DL's mother at the funeral, because I thought DL's mother was shown in another episode and it was definitely not Uhura. I also thought it was lame that Midas walked by Monica at the funeral, and three weeks later they didn't recognize eachother.

I can't believe there was no Parkman. I was waiting for them to show him being treated at the Company, but I guess he just got a normal hospital for his five bullet wounds.  :P

A few post-episode questions I still have:
Where did Sylar go!?!
When, why, and how did Angela Petrelli help the Haitian in a 'time of need?'
What is Angela Petrelli's power?
When and why did the Haitian go back to Haiti after erasing Peter's memory?
Is Kandace still alive (could easily have faked it)?
How did Adam get those tickets? Did he kill Sulu?
Hmm...does Uhura have any powers?

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Jayson on April 10, 2008, 12:59 PM
Heroes back in Sept. 08 and no Origins spin-off (http://www.tv.com/story/11101.html?tag=news_headlines;title;1)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Phrubruh on April 10, 2008, 04:21 PM
It's about time. I've been wondering when that show would be back. My wife and I are in the middle of rewatching Alias and watching Greg Grunberg and David Anders is making wish for new Heros episodes.

It's looks like we are getting new Heros figures too. I've always wanted a Hiro figure to fight my Anakin Skywalker figure.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on September 22, 2008, 10:47 PM
Okay, the season premiere isn't even quite over yet and I just can't believe what a complete, 2 hour, load of crap this show has been.  Last year season 2 got off to a bad start but this new season is ridiculous.  Really, no time has elapsed between season 2 and 3 yet the motivation and personality of most of the major characters has completely changed.  It's all upside down.  And I don't like it.

I'm gonna give this a week or so to see where they're going but if it's more of this, screw it, I've got other stuff I can watch on Monday night.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Jayson on September 22, 2008, 11:04 PM
A pretty ho-hum episode. Again, it just didn't have the originality of the first season and now Mohinder is what, 'The Fly' now? Who's gonna blow his head off with a shotgun? Who didn't see that Linderman was a "ghost" and Momma Petrelli as a certain bad guy's mom? A total shark jump move.  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: name on September 23, 2008, 09:10 AM


I'm gonna give this a week or so to see where they're going but if it's more of this, screw it, I've got other stuff I can watch on Monday night.

   E...

agreed....it was losing it's flair already with season 2, but if last night was any indication of what we can expect, I'm done.

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Phrubruh on September 23, 2008, 03:00 PM
I have a feeling the show has nuked the fridge.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2008, 03:01 PM
I caught it last night, and it was ok, but for some reason I just don't find myself getting quite as excited about this show as something like LOST (as far as serialized television goes).  Like others, I still enjoyed the first season the most, but I'll be watching this year to check things out too.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on September 23, 2008, 03:11 PM
I didn't think it was great, but I didn't think it was as bad as a lot of people here seem to think.  I was surprised that future Peter was the shooter.  I was surprised to see Linderman show up, though not that he was a ghost.  Sylar's mom was kind of out of the blue, but she could be lying.  Seems like she intends to use him.  Don't know what's up with Nikki.  I did like Mohinder's story, but the whole Fly thing is kind of obvious.  But it could easily turn out to be interesting.

I still enjoyed it quite a bit, though.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on September 23, 2008, 04:17 PM
Ratings weren't too great
 (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/080923-heroes-premiere-ratings.html) the way it sounds.  If that doesn't improve, I don't know how long this show will stay around.  Granted, its just the first episode, but its amazing how much the buzz has changed for this show since it first premiered.  It was all anyone could talk about then, and now its getting beat out by Dancing with the Stars and Two and a Half Men.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on September 23, 2008, 04:24 PM
I watched season 2 over the weekend to get ready for the new season.  I had complaints last year about how it started off but it turned itself around and I liked the way it finished.  However, if you watch the alternate ending, the ending I'm sure we would have gotten had it not been for the impending writer strike, the season was headed in an entirely different direction than what we got.

Neither ending, though, pointed to what we got last night.  I wasn't shocked that Peter was the shooter, it was, in fact, one of the few things I liked about the episode.  I didn't like pretty much everything else.

I disagree with you, Bill, I think Mohinder's plot is terrible and possibly one of the two worst things about last night's episode.  The second was Sylar's attack on Claire which completely didn't fit within the flow of time in the Heroes universe and wasn't explained in any way...it just was.  And now we either have to just own it or we have to wait for some flashback episode that decides to fill in the missing 10 minutes between season 2 and 3.  Terrible.

The plot with Niki was a runner up for worst.  This is one of the issues from last year where they introduced new heroes without tying them into any other plot, basically, it's one of the things Kring owned up to in the article linked earlier in this thread.  Last night they did it with this new character yet they haven't resolved the whole Niki/Monica/Micah plot.  Does Niki suddenly have a twin?  Is she a clone?  Do I care?  Weren't Niki and Jessica enough, they couldn't resolve Niki's plot so they needed to invent a character just to keep Ali Larter on the payroll?  Are they going to abandon season 2, like it never happened?  Bah.

Oh, one more high point, for me at least; Francis Capra was on the show last night.  I'm hoping he's back for a few episodes and I hope they put him in some scenes with Elle.  Loved his character on "Veronica Mars" and Capra's character was at his best when he was on screen with Kristen Bell's Veronica.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Mikey D on September 23, 2008, 04:28 PM
I probably would have liked it better if I didn't already know Future Peter was the shooter and it's Tracy not Nikki.  Oh well, I'll probably keep watching, it's good for mindless entertainment (and maybe it'll get better, we all saw how that happened with Lost).

Although Maya is quite the hottie.  I can see how Mohinder (who went from super nerd to super stud fairly quickly) would tap that.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on September 23, 2008, 07:14 PM
I thought it premiered tomorrow night? I'm so confused! I just opened this thread to find a bunch of spoilers sitting around. WTF? ???
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on September 23, 2008, 07:38 PM
Monday nights, same as last year.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on September 23, 2008, 10:27 PM
Whoops, you're right. :-[

Thank the Maker for Tivo! ;D
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on September 24, 2008, 07:50 AM
The thing with Season 2 is that they didn't really plan for the strike.  It was meant to be a slow burn type thing, but then the halfway point in the season became the end of the season during the strike.  If you have the season 2 dvd set, you will see that the original plan was to have the virus released and go from there.

The scene when Mrs. Patrelli has the dream of the villians being released and all the Heroes dead was shot last year and was supposed to be part of that season.

Overall, I enjoyed the episode.  I have a feeling that future Peter may have done some jumping around in time.  I would think he may have went back in time to absorb Linderman's power...how else did his brother come back to life?  With the new "Nikki" it does not seem to be Nikki Sanders since she has a different power...it would be a little hard to explain that.  As for Micah, I think that will be shown in a later episode.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on September 24, 2008, 08:19 AM
I have a feeling that future Peter may have done some jumping around in time.  I would think he may have went back in time to absorb Linderman's power...how else did his brother come back to life?

I'm guessing Adam's blood continues to heal Nathan.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on September 24, 2008, 10:28 PM
I watched it last night. There were parts I liked (Sylar's attack on the Company) and other parts I just couldn't stand (pretty much all of Mohinder's scenes, Hiro and the formula, Future Peter). And I think Nikki/Jessica still alive with a different name/life is as weird as it gets, and kinda leaves the Micah/Monica stuff unresolved. I mean, there were only like ten minutes between that episode and this one. Where's the continuity?

I still love the show so I'll continue watching until the end, but that season premiere was a bit of a letdown. It made me miss everything that made Season 1 so enjoyable. :-\
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Phrubruh on September 26, 2008, 09:48 AM
I have a feeling that future Peter may have done some jumping around in time.  I would think he may have went back in time to absorb Linderman's power...how else did his brother come back to life?

I'm guessing Adam's blood continues to heal Nathan.

Have you noticed that Nathan gets "killed" in every season. He seems to get killed as much as Kenny does. Pretty soon I can see Peter saying, "Those bastards killed Nathan!".
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on September 29, 2008, 07:32 AM
I have a feeling that future Peter may have done some jumping around in time.  I would think he may have went back in time to absorb Linderman's power...how else did his brother come back to life?

I'm guessing Adam's blood continues to heal Nathan.

I guess we would have to see if HRG gets hurt and if he heals again...also, it seemed to take a while to kick in.

To David -  I am wondering if it really is Nikki...she didn't seem to have a different power, which would need some sort of explanation.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 21, 2008, 08:05 PM
Ok this show is back AT LAST! Mr.P is a real creep! Can't for him to get some WHOOP ASS! I wounder Mrs.P power is? 
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: EdSolo on October 22, 2008, 07:25 AM
Ok this show is back AT LAST! Mr.P is a real creep! Can't for him to get some WHOOP ASS! I wounder Mrs.P power is? 

Mrs. Petrelli has the power to see the future through dreams...pretty similar to Issac's power.  I wonder if Mr. Patrelli was born with his power or if he was engineered like Nathan.  His power seems to have a kinship with both Peter and Sylar's powers.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 22, 2008, 09:46 AM
Adam Monroe's death scene reminded me of Walter Donovan's. "He chose....poorly."
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on October 27, 2008, 10:12 PM
Okay, I've been watching this show right along and my opinion from week one has not changed.  I'm not enjoying the season, I think there are a lot of things wrong with the plot, the characters and their motivations and there still seems like there's a general lack of focus for where the plot's going.

So, someone, tell me why I'm wrong.  Tell me I'm missing some key point to what's going on and why this season isn't as bad as I think it is.

E...

Spoiler ----- at least Mya is gone...for now.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 28, 2008, 09:43 PM
The season got off to a slow start, but the last 3 weeks WOW! Everything came together with Mr.P and his goon squad.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on October 28, 2008, 09:48 PM
The season got off to a slow start, but the last 3 weeks WOW! Everything came together with Mr.P and his goon squad.

Agree that Nathan, Parkman, and Hiro's storyline's are all a little boring.  I thought the start of the season was a little slow, but last few episodes have had great cliffhangers and seem to be moving plot along much faster.  Just hope they can keep up the pace for the rest of the season.

Does anyone else like Sylar as a good guy?  Kind of reminds me of wolverine - a little savage and walks the line of good guy/bad guy, but struggling to be good.  I think he's the most developed character this year.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 28, 2008, 10:38 PM
I just wounder which "hero" is going to be the one scarfice themselves to get rid of Mr.P? Sylar the only one left that has the power to take him down? Or will it take all of them working together to off him?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 28, 2008, 11:13 PM
I think the Petrellis stuff has actually been pretty cool/interesting, but everything else is still crap (Mohinder, Hiro, TRACY, etc.). I hope the upcoming "flashback" episode does a good job explaining things, because I'm quickly losing interest in this show. :-\
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on October 28, 2008, 11:15 PM
Spoiler ----- at least Mya is gone...for now.

Or not...

 >:(
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on June 5, 2009, 09:41 AM
Sounds like Darth Maul could be on his way to Heroes (http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/06/heroes-meets-star-wars.html).

Personally, I've sort of been losing interest in the show - but I might consider tuning in to check out Ray Park's role.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on June 5, 2009, 10:28 AM
It says Robert Knepper is joining the cast as well.  He was fantastic in Prison Break.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on June 5, 2009, 05:47 PM
Does anyone know a good internet site to catch up on episodes from last season?  I got busy with work and missed the last 4-5 episodes.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Phrubruh on June 6, 2009, 11:35 AM
You didn't miss much.

Have you ever noticed how they have to kill Nathan at the end of every season?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: David on June 6, 2009, 12:12 PM
Although I loathed Volumes Two and Three, the last chunk of episodes wasn't that bad and got me interested again just before I was about to stop watching.

But if they bring Nathan back after that, I'm probably done watching for good. ::)

And Justin, hulu.com is great for catching up. I use it a lot and I love it. Hope this helps! :)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on June 6, 2009, 04:17 PM
And Justin, hulu.com is great for catching up. I use it a lot and I love it. Hope this helps! :)

Thanks - I'll check it out!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: McMetal on September 22, 2009, 10:40 AM
Whew, I really had to dig to find this thread. I knew there had to be one though.

Is anyone still watching this show? I think it has been going downhill steadily (last season was more like falling off a cliff really) but the 2 new eps last night seemed promising.

I just wish they could have given Darth Maul a power that would have allowed him to exercise some of his prodigious martial arts skills. Have the writers REALLY run out of new powers to give characters already? We've done the Speedster thing. Also the time travel thing.

Was anyone else disappointed that the chick Claire supposedly gets freaky with this season is so appallingly unattractive? ZERO SIZZLE.

Knepper was pretty good. Glad they finally kicked Danko to the curb - that should have happened last season.

I'm already sick of Sylar again. Why not just call the show "All About Sylar" and be done with it?

If they're going to go all Carnivale this year, we needs a Clancy Brown cameo!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Phrubruh on September 22, 2009, 11:03 AM
Well it's currently on the dvr waiting to be watched. I'll see how it goes and probably remove it if it doesn't go anywhere like last season. They are on borrowed time.

On a separate note, I went to Universal Studios Holleywood last saturday and they hyped that show with billboards all over the place. The special effects show showed how they do Heiro's time stop and Clairs healing after nuclear man blewup in Clair's house in season two. The host asked if anyone watched Heroes. He was greated with very quiet applause.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: efranks on September 22, 2009, 11:13 AM
I can sum up last night's episodes for me in one word:

Boring.

I kept looking at the clock to see if it was over yet and it seemed like the show kept getting longer and longer and longer.

I don't care about Sylar anymore.  The writers ****** up and made that character too powerful while zapping all of our heroes.  And now they just have him as the go-to bad guy.  but he's a terrible bad guy.  he has no plan to dominate the world, he's not looking to get rich or pick up hot chicks.  He just kills people.  That doesn't make a good villain to hang your series on.  that's the kind of villain you spend, at most, 1 season tracking down then you kill him and move on to something new.

This season only picks up six weeks after last season.  Claire getting a GED and then into college in 6 weeks is pretty unbelievable.  Her mother already hooking up with a new guy that she wasn't already involved with?  It's just weak storytelling. 

The carnival angle is new and could possibly be fresh.  Other than that?  They need to mix things up.  New characters, get rid of some dead wood, and that includes Sylar at this point.  My favorite character from the first season was Hiro.  Period.  But they screwed him up so much over the last season and a half that I can't stand to watch his segments now, get rid of him.  Niki/Tracy/whoever, she needs to go.  I'm glad Danko is gone, that's a start, now they need to finish cleaning things out.

   E...
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: McMetal on September 22, 2009, 12:04 PM
Ha ha...I see I am not alone with some of my criticisms of the show.

I agree fully e, the storytelling is weak and they really need to move past Sylar. They painted themselves into a corner with that character, much like Lost did with Ben. Have a casting plan and stick to it. Book a guy for an arc, kill him and move on.

I was watching the clock by the second hour last night too, but that's probably because I'm unaccustomed to sitting in front of the TV that long.

I kept wondering "What happened to Mohinder?" - I really cannot recall. I bought the last season on DVD but couldn't bring myself to watch them again because last season was just so terrible.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: Brian on September 22, 2009, 12:59 PM
I'm pretty much on board with what the rest of you have been saying.  I really enjoyed the first season, and have enjoyed it less so each season after that.  Last year I sort of watched it on and off, usually just catching up on the DVR and fast forwarding through nearly half of each episode it seemed.  I watched last night's premiere to give it a chance, but I'm not sure if I'll continue or not.  I didn't hate the episode, it just seems like I can't get into it that much anymore.  Not to compare the two, but it isn't anything like a show like LOST is for me, where I can't wait for each new episode.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: McMetal on September 29, 2009, 01:35 PM
What a forgettable snoozefest last night was...ugh. Did ANYTHING happen?

Can't you guys do a little more with Darth Maul than a frigging Sprint commercial?

Since when  is synthesia a super power? (The lamest one ever I might add)

Well, on the plus side, it was great to see  Louise Fletcher again. She adds instead acting cred, even in a bit part.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: McMetal on October 13, 2009, 05:38 PM
Damn, I missed last night's episode because it got pre-empted for a gubernatorial debate. (!) The re-airing is 3am tonight/tomorrow...sigh.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: JediJman on October 13, 2009, 07:00 PM
Damn, I missed last night's episode because it got pre-empted for a gubernatorial debate. (!) The re-airing is 3am tonight/tomorrow...sigh.

I think you can usually catch these pretty quickly on NBC.com or Youtube.  They also have great mini-page recaps of last season (I had to review the major plot points from Season 3 to get caught back up this year).

I have to say, I'm not overly impressed with the plot points so far.  Take any given character and they've just gone through radical changes over just 3 seasons.

- Mohinder is the science guy, then gets powers that turn him into a monster, now has Spidermanlike agility, no side effects and where the heck has he gone?
- Peter has an awesome ability to collect powers, blows up, has amnesia, meets a girl (and she went where?), future self tries to kill his brother, he loses his powers, powers come back, but seems like he only keeps the latest power he steals now (?), totally alienates himself from his family to play full-time EMT...he's become pretty one-dimensional. Oh, and Ando has powers now too.  What?
- Nathan goes from reluctant guy with Power to "I'm gonna tell the world about people with powers" to I'm going to work for the government to capture and "cure" people with powers?  What?  Then dead, replaced by Sylar?  Just goofy/dumb.
- Sylar goes from massive baddy to confused good guy to Nathan/Peters sibling.  He actually gets somewhat likeable and gets a girlfriend, but out of no where he kills her off and is a bad guy again.  Then he gets mind-wiped to become the new Peter, but he's ALSO stuck in Matt's head.  Lame.
- Hiro goes from funky fun master of time & space to stuck in the past forever to losing his power and stuck in the past again, then rescued and recharged, but his power is killing him.  Seriously - is there any character they haven't totally mucked up?

The premise in the first season was cool - these people have powers and what should the do with them.  Instead of trying to copy the X-men with a virus and government persecution, they should have focused on introducing new baddies and how the various heroes need to accept their powers and work together to stop them.  Why haven't ANY of these heroes decided to stay together? If I had weird super powers and knew about other dudes with powers and we used those powers to save a bunch of people, I think I might suggest at least a monthly get-together for brews or something to stay in touch. 

I will, of course, stay on to the bitter end because I am compelled to see what happens next and love the idea of any kind of super-hero show, but I'm pretty dissapointed overall.  Here's hoping they come up with something brilliant with the carnies - I'm not going to hold my breath though.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC
Post by: BillCable on October 13, 2009, 09:44 PM
There's been a really jarring break between the first three episodes this season and the next.  I read they changed the writers, and it seems like the new writers didn't like where the first writers were going.  It seemed like it was building up to a struggle between Sylar and Nathan in Nathan's body, with Matt trying to recreate Sylar.  But the new guys didn't like that so they killed Nathan so Sylar could come back without his memories.  Is Sylar both in his original body and in Matt's head now?  Are there two Sylars?  Or maybe he'll just vanish out of Matt's mind after he remembers who he is.  Very disappointing, IMO.