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Title: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: speedermike on April 6, 2007, 07:44 PM
Here's where the fun begins...

There's more over at GH...

Jawa with WED 15 Droid
Tusken Raider (Jundland Wastes)
Tatooine Creature Pack (Jabba’s Palace)
Oola
Yarna d’al’ Gargan
Wioslea
Tiree (Rebel Y-Wing Pilot)
Hobbie (Rebel Pilot)
Arvel Crynyd (Rebel A-Wing Pilot)
Ak-Rev Weequay Drummer
Sgt. Doallyn
Yoxgit
BG-J38 (see our cool pimp of this figure right here!)
Brainiac
Danz Borin
Kal Fas (Saurin)
Ewok w/ Woklings
Ewok (2 Pack)
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darby on April 6, 2007, 08:55 PM
SO happy to see new rumor lists, but some of that is too good and too similar (tons of Jabba's Palace, tons of pilots - and aren't we getting an A-Wing Pilot this year?) to not raise alarms.  Would be awesome, though.  All those Ewoks would be fantastic.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Artoo on April 6, 2007, 09:07 PM
No Willrow as of yet. Tsk, tsk,tsk....
Atleast there'll be a new Padme.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Scott on April 6, 2007, 09:33 PM
Not to burst any bubbles...but


How much of this stuff came true?

http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4381&zoneid=7
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Jesse James on April 6, 2007, 10:04 PM
Ouch...  Well I don't keep up with that stuff so I forgot that, but wow that was either REALLY off the mark (Like the only thing I noticed that has come about was the non-animated Clone Wars stuff actually, and sparingly at that), or Hasbro nixed everything "rumored". 

I will say that Speederbike idea's a good one...  wouldn't anyone else agree?  *ahem*  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Nicklab on April 6, 2007, 10:20 PM
Nice list.  They've been wrong in the past, but there have been some instances where they've been right, too.  What's interesting to me in this case is that the list can be split into waves pretty easily.

TATOOINE - ANH
Jawa with WED 15 Droid
Tusken Raider (Jundland Wastes)
Wioslea
Brainiac
Danz Borin
Kal Fas (Saurin)

DEATH STAR - ANH
Tiree (Rebel Y-Wing Pilot)
Princess Leia (Imperial Captive)
Luke Skywalker (Detention Block Rescue)
Han Solo (Detention Block Rescue)
Chewbacca (Imperial Captive)

JABBA'S PALACE - ROTJ
Tatooine Creature Pack (Jabba’s Palace)
Oola
Yarna d’al’ Gargan
Ak-Rev Weequay Drummer
Sgt. Doallyn
Yoxgit
BG-J38

BATTLE OF ENDOR - ROTJ
Arvel Crynyd (Rebel A-Wing Pilot)
Ewok w/ Woklings
Ewok (2 Pack)
Darth Vader - Funeral Pyre
Rebels - Ewok BBQ

I'm not sure where Hobbie or Padme would fit in, but the others seem to line up pretty well.  But there are definitely some question marks.  There should be at least 1 core character in each of those waves, and there are none in the Tatooine - ANH set or the Jabba's Palace lineup.  That makes me scratch my head about those.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Artoo on April 7, 2007, 01:33 AM
If the DS wave is true, we can finally stop whining about Stormie Han & Luke. Though, there should be a VOTC Stormie in that assortment.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: JesseVader08 on April 7, 2007, 02:35 AM
There are some great figures on that list!  But Scott makes a good point.  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 7, 2007, 12:08 PM
Not to burst any bubbles...but


How much of this stuff came true?

http://www.galactichunter.com/absolutenm/templates/full_article_template_1.asp?articleid=4381&zoneid=7

Thanks. I've been wondering how reliable those predictions were.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Scott on April 7, 2007, 12:48 PM
Here was the other one (thanks to whoever at Scum saved this)

Quote
42N-TLR Predicts Big Things
10/27/2005 2:34:01 PM | Reported by 42N-TLR

Greetings! I am 42N-TLR, Precognition Droid, and I am skilled in over six million methods of soothsaying. The management at GalacticHunter realizes that the Swami has been in rehab on sabbatical for quite some time, and they have asked me to use my precognitive abilities to help you, dear readers, see what is coming in the future to a galaxy near you. (Please note that 42N-TLR's predictions are usually for 8-12 months in the future, not simply the next quarter or so.)
Cinema Scene, Screen Scene, Seen Again?
My first vision seems like a repeat, and it may be - from a certain point of view. Hasbro had tremendous luck with the old Cinema Scene Assortment, and its successor, the Screen Scene, wasn't so successful. The next attempt may work better. A new twist is being added to the $9.99 pricepoint group, currently the Deluxe Assortment, previously the Ultra Assortment. A series of two-packs is being developed featuring two figures, a base, and a cut-out backdrop for the $9.99 price range. First up is Hermi Odle (right) and a friend to be determined, although it's safe to guess that it will be a previously released figure.
Speaking of re-releases, the crystal ball forseeth the re-release of the Max Rebo Band - with a twist, naturally. At least one new member of the band, Ak-Rev and his drum, is being developed to complement this assortment. The Max Rebo Band two packs were originally Wal*Mart exclusives, but where these new sets will wind up is anydroid's guess.
Can You Ask For More? YES!
Someone at Hasbro paid attention to GalacticHunter's 2005 Wishlist <http://www.galactichunter.com/features/wishlist2005/index.asp>, as we've all heard that a new Leia Boushh, 'God' C-3PO, Chief Chirpa, and Hem Dazon are on the way. Now I prophesize a few more goodies from that list will be out in late (LATE) 2006: CZ-3 (left), Bom Vindim, BG-J38 (right), and an Ewok With Woklings are coming down the mountain from the mighty makers at Hasbro.
The future of the U-Shaped Cantina Bar Piece is still a little murky, as is the Bespin Cloud Car, but the crystal ball still has them playing a part in our collecting future. The AT-AT will also see a very exclusive re-release, so save your credits.
Speaking of EXCLUSIVE, my big, shiny orb tells me that a certain online e-tailer (or is that ee-tailer?) is working overtime to secure a very sweet EU action figure exclusive.
More Cloning Around
If you thought that the current parade of Clones would end with the impending release of Commander Cody, you would be wrong. Our trusty Tarot tells us that Commander Faie (above, left), Commander Neyo (above, right) and the Snowtrooper-esque Galactic Marine are on the way, too. Army builders rejoice! (Commander Faie, while not seen in Revenge of the Sith, bridges the gap between the Clone Trooper and the Stormtrooper nicely, and, yes, he will come with his sassy poncho.)
As always, the future is always in motion, and everything is subject to change at the whim of beancounters, designers, or even the price of oil.
Please deposit 50 Republic Credits for the next reading.
The Galactic Swami will return as soon as he dries out. Unless he has a fatal binge, in which case, I'll have a permanent gig.
Thanks to Jimmy for helping 42N-TLR polish his crystal [censored].


I believed whatever the Swami had to say because the Swami nailed almost every single thing the Swami predicted (over 75%)...

I don't believe ADAM, the record shows a not so good record and as I've said many times when these rumor lists pop up that ANYONE could put a list together of 60 figures for next year and get about 50% right based on what people have asked for continually over the last 3-4 years

Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: evenflow on April 7, 2007, 09:54 PM
Well i hope this years rumors tend to be more than false. Yarna being on there is always nice as are the ewok with wokkling.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: obi-dad on April 8, 2007, 12:34 AM
I agree with evenflow... I hope these do turn out to be true.  With as many ewoks there are that need to be remade, I would be surprised to see a mother and woklings before so many more that should be remade, especially now that Hasbro has started a new height/size for ewoks.  It would be a nice set, though.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 8, 2007, 10:33 AM
Well i hope this years rumors tend to be more than false. Yarna being on there is always nice as are the ewok with wokkling.

But don't forget that Yarna was part of the Comic-con gag where it was stated that she is far from any short list.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Daigo-Bah on April 8, 2007, 11:10 AM
Even though he's a space-suited human, Danz Borin is probably the one I'm most excited about for that wave.  Yoxgit is pretty obscure; it seems like there are much more prominent Jabba's throne characters to make first... then I remember that Hasbro has to spread these out over the next 10 years, so maybe it's smart to put him out now rather than after all the main characters are done.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 8, 2007, 02:03 PM
Some of those are very obscure (which is great) but I am with some others.  I don't really believe it yet.  It's too far off anyway...2008.  I hope it's true of course.  I am kind of surprised Bom Vimdin is not on the radar yet.  It just seems like he's a pretty interesting Cantina creature that they could whip up in no time. 
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Scott on April 8, 2007, 02:45 PM
That's what's great about good ole 42N...Bom Vimdin was on the radar last time...now...not :P
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: evenflow on April 9, 2007, 09:59 AM
Well i hope this years rumors tend to be more than false. Yarna being on there is always nice as are the ewok with wokkling.

But don't forget that Yarna was part of the Comic-con gag where it was stated that she is far from any short list.

Thats true, but being the highest voted OT charatcer in the latest fan choice poll, all the questions about her in the Q&A, and even the mention in the April fools wave males me think that she very well may be a possibility.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Jesse James on April 9, 2007, 04:15 PM
Scott's made a pretty good point I think so I'm definitely not getting my hopes up...  I sort of did at first, as the Speederbike was actually something I asked (in every detail listed in the rumor list by the way) Hasbro during one of the Q&A's and Hasbro's response was very receptive...  But when you think about it, the fact I asked the question and got a positive response means it's pretty easy to say, "hey we're getting a new speederbike next year, I heard it in a rumor", too, now that I ponder that a bit more...  Meh.

Either way I think Hasbro's got that idea in their head and liked it, so that's all I care about.  Since the track record though I'm not going to hold my breath on all the rest of that stuff though.  IG Lancer droids would be great, but somehow I feel like the odds aren't in our favor for cool stuff like that.  I dunno.

Glad I didn't run to my gf's kid saying "guess what I heard", because he'd have gone nuts hoping for those IG droids I think.  One of his favorite parts of the toons were those guys.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: speedermike on April 9, 2007, 05:59 PM
I'm hoping the IG droids show up in CW 3D!  Then we'lll really get a cool figure.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Nicklab on April 9, 2007, 07:20 PM
I think a new ROTJ era speeder bike is on the way, but I'm not basing that on the GH report.  Rather, I think that with figures like the VTSC Biker Scout and VTAC Leia out or on the way, Hasbro is probably hoping to get some speeder bikes out for these figures.  And I think the idea is that much more feasible since the battle pack concept has been expanded to include items like the Bantha and the BARC Speeders.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: speedermike on April 9, 2007, 09:57 PM
Y'know, after seeing that bantha Battle Pack, I think that a Jabba/Throne set with a figure or two is now really probable.  Jabba's pretty popular too, so I could see him being a general release piece, as opposed to an exclusive.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Rob on April 9, 2007, 10:28 PM
If Hasbro wanted to charge a few extra bucks and still make money, an updated dias would go a long way towards moving Jabba's off the shelf. 
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Brian on April 10, 2007, 09:17 AM
That's definitely a nice idea Rob.  Use the Battle Pack line to get another Jabba out there (I think Hasbro has mentioned before they want to re-do him), and pack him with his dais - even if it is a reuse of the vintage sculpt I think it would do well.  Paint it up nice and include a couple pack in figures, I think they'd have a pretty good seller on their hands.

I'd also really like to see ROTJ speeder bike packs on the shelves.  A new bike sculpt would be nice, and pack in figures like the VTSC Biker Scout, VTAC Endor Leia, or TSC Endor Luke.  Those would be pretty spiffy, and I think would sell well with both kids and collectors.  Its been far too long since we've seen OT speeder bikes out on the shelves.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: evenflow on April 10, 2007, 09:29 AM
If the Yarna rumors turns out to be true i think it woul dbe the perfect time to explore releasing Jabba the Hutt with Dias. Give us a nice Jabba's Palace wave and Jabba, Dias, and Oola pack-in and i think everyone would be happy.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 10, 2007, 09:38 AM
The new Jabba would be great. Yarna though, I think would be a major disaster. Sure, there's a lot of fan pressure for this one (not from me though,) but when you get down to it, when the kids see this figure, they're going to thumb their nose at it and Hasbro knows it.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 10, 2007, 07:30 PM
The new Jabba would be great. Yarna though, I think would be a major disaster. Sure, there's a lot of fan pressure for this one (not from me though,) but when you get down to it, when the kids see this figure, they're going to thumb their nose at it and Hasbro knows it.

All they have to do is make a Jabba's Palace creature 5 pack or a battle pack or something like that and toss her in there.  Make it an exclusive to a store, etailer, or wherever they wish.  If they can make Lucas' kids they can do something like that.  She does not have to be in every retail store across the country.  Yeah, I am sure they are afraid of making her because she would pegwarm like crazy.  I'd still get her though. 
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Scott on April 10, 2007, 10:17 PM
Put anything risky as 1 per case and only in one assortment like some of the stuff in Saga 2.0 was and I don't think you need worry about Pegwarming.  If sales dictate then go ahead and rerelease later in the year assortments.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: CHEWIE on April 10, 2007, 10:31 PM
Except that damn TAC Obi Wan. I'm already sick of seeing that figure.   :-X

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Rob on April 11, 2007, 12:36 AM
The new Jabba would be great. Yarna though, I think would be a major disaster. Sure, there's a lot of fan pressure for this one (not from me though,) but when you get down to it, when the kids see this figure, they're going to thumb their nose at it and Hasbro knows it.

More so than say.... this guy?:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Collectibles/Modern/The_Saga_Collection/Basic_Figures/050_Naboo_Soldier/tsc_saga050_f2.jpg)



Lucky for us, Hasbro does put out items on occasion solely based on what fans want.  I don't see any excuse to not get Yarna made eventually.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Jesse James on April 11, 2007, 01:37 AM
I'm really in the minority on Yarna as far as collectors go in that I really could care less if they made her...  I never cared much for any of the dancers.  I'll buy her though, but she falls under the class of "Senators" to me in that she's fairly dull to me...

I know I'm not in the majority on that though so I figure if they make her fine, they just need to make ICMG too. :)

About the Naboo dude, I dunno...  He didn't sell horribly here.  He's obtainable but he isn't at every store so he actually didn't do bad at retail by me...  I'm sort of shocked.  I still think his "army builder" status coupled with a good generic look to him moved him a little better than people thought he would go.  I did see a lot of him at Target tonight though so some places he did sit.  I think I'll nab a couple more of him if I see him again though.  Worth having a few of I suppose.

He is really solid proof though that you cannot ever place logic to Hasbro's methods and what you think you'll get out of them any given year...  Nobody asked for that guy that I can think of, nobody was putting him on wishlists, he's barely memorable from a generally disliked film, he's got little color/deco, he's human...

If they can do the Naboo dude then I want some of Jabba's human guards from ANH:SE and ROTJ (the guy that shot LUke's hand in particular is on my short list).  And ICMG.
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Darth Broem on April 11, 2007, 08:15 PM
Well I am not going to spaz if they never make Yarna.  However, she is quite noticeable in ROTJ and would like to have her in my little Jabba's Palace theme shelf.  For now I can just pretend the Rancor Keeper is Yarna  :P
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Reid on April 11, 2007, 08:33 PM
  For now I can just pretend the Rancor Keeper is Yarna  :P

Too skinny.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 rumors...
Post by: Artoo on April 11, 2007, 09:11 PM
Not ugly enough either. But he does have the man regular boobs. :P
Title: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: speedermike on June 3, 2007, 10:30 PM
I know it's really early to think about 2008, but...I've been thinkng about 2008.  With Force Unleashed coming out and the CW TV series, I wonder how much movie product we'll actually get. 

And, I'm curious if it will all be under one SW banner, with subtitles on the cards.  It could be a very cool year, as the designs for FU and CW look good.

Any thoughts or predictions?  I know that Hasbro has hinted at some 2008 stuff (SA Qui-Gon and others...) but we won't know for a while.
Title: Re: 2008?
Post by: Brian on June 6, 2007, 10:44 AM
I'm kind of curious what 2008 is going to look like as well.  You would think that the Clone Wars stuff would get a pretty big push.  It got its own line when we only had the "micro" series of 2-3 minute episodes, so you would think a regular, half-hour show would be an even bigger event.  Then, like you mentioned, we still have the Force Unleashed stuff that is pushed until next year.  What does that leave for the rest of the line?

There have been some figures rumored/mentioned already (Qui-Gon, Bothan, etc.), so I would think we're seeing some sort of "regular" movie line as well.  There's been polling on the future of the "vintage" line, so we'll likely see another wave of those in some sort of way - whether its continuing on how they have been, or incorporating the prequels.  Its tough to say how things are going to look for the lineup next year.  I can say, I never anticipated the amount of product we've gotten (or will be) in the 2007 line.  I think I'm on pace to spend as much as a movie year, or I easily could if I wanted to.  The amount of product is almost to the point of being overwhelming at times, at least for me.  Lots of great product though, so I'm not complaining.

It sounds like Clone Wars isn't scheduled to debut until the Fall, so maybe we'll see a more "normal" line of figures the first part of the year (with the one wave dedicated to the Force Unleashed), with a shift towards Clone Wars stuff in summer/fall.  We've already heard of more comic packs (it sounds like Legacy packs are rumored), and that line is apparently doing well.  It could be shaping up for another big year - eek.
Title: Re: 2008?
Post by: David on June 6, 2007, 10:49 AM
I think FU Wave, Qui-Gon, Bothan, and Thrawn are all thats really been confirmed yet. FU Wave looks awesome, some figures more than others. And the thing about the CW series that makes me so excited is that it presents a bigger chance for the AT-TE, and maybe just maybe a homing spider droid!
Title: Re: 2008?
Post by: jedi_master_sal on June 6, 2007, 01:38 PM
I think FU Wave, Qui-Gon, Bothan, and Thrawn are all thats really been confirmed yet. FU Wave looks awesome, some figures more than others. And the thing about the CW series that makes me so excited is that it presents a bigger chance for the AT-TE, and maybe just maybe a homing spider droid!

You hit the nail on the head there. If there's one last chance to get those two, then is the time. No excuses from Hasbro this time. Certainly not for the AT-TE. Even then, the Homing Spider droid is even easier to produce than the AT-TE. With all four legs the same , that's the same tool and die (mold) for it. That just leaves the body which is little more than a sphere with a few radar dishes on them. This one should have been a no brainer years ago. Plus since it could be easily assembled, it could come in a small box (long yes, but not wide) so it could be done at the right scale AND be kept at the $20 pricepoint. Okay maybe $30 if they make it so the Ball body can open up to hold a Battle Droid. No not canon, but makes for a good toy then and gives Hasbro a chance to sell more Battle Droids.

-Sal
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Rune Haako on June 22, 2007, 02:30 PM
http://www.theforce.net/topstory/story/ForceCast_June_22_2007_106935.asp

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/a/aa/Toonbuck.jpg/250px-Toonbuck.jpg)
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2007, 04:15 PM
This is technically 2008 rumors, but I didn't know if it was too soon to start a new thread.  For those of you who listen to TheForce.net's "Forcecast", they have a big segment with Dan from RS, and a lot of rumors are brought up.  Some were covered in the printed report from earlier this week, but there is more mentioned as well.  It sounds like ICMG is on the way, likely in 2009.  Also mentioned was a "Marvel comics" version of Jabba, an all-new super articulated Fleet Trooper (yay for Jesse), an AT-ST with expanded "cockpit" to hold two drivers, Toonbuck Toora, new Speederbike set similar to the WM exclusive (possibly with stands), a Rancor repack, a possible (2009) cinema scene/playset type of release (Death Star and Cantina are mentioned as possibilities) and more EU stuff.  I can't remember everything mentioned, but if you are interested, the segment starts around the 43 minute mark in the podcast, and lasts for 10 minutes+.  Grain of salt for everything, but interesting to hear/discuss either way.

Also of note, it is mentioned again that the TAC line will last into 2008, before transitioning into Clone Wars (likely in summer/fall).  It does sound like Clone Wars will be "the" line, and not a seperate one, and might be the main focus for the basic figure collection from that point on in 2008.  Its still a long ways off, so who knows what else we might see, but maybe that's why we're getting such a wealth of OT stuff this year.  We'll see.  Just wanted to pass this along to anyone who is interested.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: evenflow on June 22, 2007, 04:24 PM
Sounds interesting enough. I dont even knwo why i bother to ask but any mention of ROTJ figures? (me still hoping for Yarna) The marvel comics version of Jabba sounds interesting. Anyone know what makes it different?
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Scott on June 22, 2007, 04:29 PM
(http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/images/2005/may18/jabba.jpg)

Marvel used a redecoed Mosep for a Jabba stand in
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Brian on June 22, 2007, 04:33 PM
Not sure about ROTJ figures, I'd have to listen again.  I know that in one of the Q and A's Hasbro mentioned there being a "Jedi wave" next year for the 25th Anniversary of Jedi.  I think the difference with the comics Jabba is that it was based on the "guy" as opposed to the slug we know so well.  Apparently it was in early Marvel versions (you can see it in the reprint - #2 - that came with the comic packs this year).

Edit: What Scott said ;)
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: evenflow on June 22, 2007, 04:34 PM
Thanks for the info, not too impressive of a character though.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: P-Siddy on June 22, 2007, 06:51 PM
If that Mosep/Jabba is correct, then that means we'll be getting Mosep soon. Wasn't there talk of a figure being release in different colors than the regular movie version... ala Airborne Trooper? This might be what they're talking about.
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Darth Broem on June 22, 2007, 08:10 PM
That would be nice.
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Greg on June 22, 2007, 10:26 PM
This character could make a very unique and interesting action figure, so I am very excited. Background aliens are some of my favorites, especially the Senators, due to their elaborate outfits and the cool designs of the aliens.
Title: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Artoo on June 22, 2007, 11:53 PM
The latest Q&A session from SW Collector (http://www.swcollector.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5087#5087) had this question & answer.

3.) We're only two years away from the tenth anniversary of STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE. Knowing how far in advance you have to plot out figures, is it too early to start hoping for all-new, super-articulated sculpts of Qui-Gon Jinn, Darth Maul, and Obi-Wan Kenobi?

ANSWER: It would be a shame to wait that long for quality sculpts of such core figures.

We already know about the super articulated Qui-Gon. But the Maul & Obi-Wan are pleasant surprises. Though the Evolutions Maul is a good figure it still needs ball-joint elbows & a more neutral head.
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Artoo on June 22, 2007, 11:56 PM
Could be a nice figure. But it has pegwarmer written all over it.
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Vator on June 23, 2007, 12:49 AM
I for one am a great fan of both Episode I and the figure line, therefore this is an incredibly exciting revealation to me.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2007, 04:49 AM
Quote
an all-new super articulated Fleet Trooper (yay for Jesse),


The pessimist in me says not to hold my breath, however like the ICMG it is fantastic news and nothing they hinted to us at C4 that I recall.  Our man JediMAC I believe mentioned the Death Star/Cantina playsets being possible candidates in '08 in our coverage though and some of that sounds familiar to me.  Good stuff regardless.  Hasbro was very chatty with certain folks. ;)
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 23, 2007, 09:28 AM
New At-St sounds interesting. Wonder if a new driver would be on the way as well?
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 23, 2007, 09:31 AM
Could be a nice figure. But it has pegwarmer written all over it.

I agree... about the pegwarming part.  ;)
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: evenflow on June 23, 2007, 09:42 AM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Rune Haako on June 23, 2007, 09:58 AM
I hope this mean they'll release Rogwa Wodrata later as well since she uses the same body, and arms as Toora and they'd just have to sculpt a new head for her.

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/0c/Rogra.JPG)
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: Darby on June 23, 2007, 11:29 AM
She's one of those PT aliens I always liked, so that will be cool.  Pegwarmer city, though.  I said that about Gargra too, so what do I know.
Title: Re: Toonbuck Toora next year?
Post by: evenflow on June 23, 2007, 12:53 PM
Speaking of Gragra, i can see them using that figure as a base for this one.
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Artoo on June 23, 2007, 03:37 PM
Yeah, but Maul, Obi & Qui-Gon won't be in it. This basically tells us they'll be out next year.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2007, 06:27 PM
I hope it's more than just a wider cockpit though...  I really REALLY had hoped for a to-scale AT-ST.  The vehicle's not outrageously large.  I'll be disappointed with anything less unfortunately.  It'd be nice though if even PART of it is to-scale.  Something useable for a customizer.

Either way though that's a vehicle that needs reworked from the ground-up to me...  They mentioned to JediMAC at C4 (as per our coverage) that the AT-ST, Snowspeeder, and Speederbike were all on the potential resculpting list for more to-scale treatment...  I'm hoping they just can pull off the full to-scale treatment.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Nicklab on June 23, 2007, 07:22 PM
I've been hoping for a redone AT-ST, mainly for the cockpit inaccuracies.  I mean, the whole vignette with Chewie and the Ewoks in ROTJ just screams out for a proper AT-ST.  I think the best thing that the AT-ST has going for it is that the legs could probably fold up to the point where it might fit in a box that's not too large.  My fingers are crossed!
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Rob on June 23, 2007, 09:43 PM
Would they need to re-do the legs and body (bigger) to make this work?  Or can they get away with just doing the cockpit and re-using the rest?
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Nicklab on June 23, 2007, 09:54 PM
The body would definitely need to be redone.  It's just too narrow to seat two pilots.  And then I look at the engineering that went into the AT-AP, and it seems like maybe Hasbro is genuinely interested in stepping up the vehicles.  And I think they might have been thinking about updating the AT-ST for a little while. 
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Rob on June 23, 2007, 10:01 PM
I hope so.  I'm at the point where I've stopped buying lots of the vehicles that come out (jedi starfighter repaints mostly...) and would love it if they could update the classic molds.  To date the TIE Fighter, X-Wing, and Landspeeder are the only ones that they've changed dramatically.  (Right?)
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Nicklab on June 23, 2007, 10:03 PM
Well, Slave I got a major redesign with the SAGA line and the ensuing OTC repaint.  And there have been significant updates to the Millenium Falcon, but it's essentially the same toy but with some cool light effects.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on June 23, 2007, 10:56 PM
Would they need to re-do the legs and body (bigger) to make this work?  Or can they get away with just doing the cockpit and re-using the rest?

Personally I'd be disappointed with just a body upgrade, however someone (and I can't recall who but maybe Dago-Bah?) updated an AT-ST with a new head basically, on the old body, and it was a vast improvement.  Like I say I don't think I'd be content with it as a scale AT-ST's not really big at all...  Well within their ability and it's the kind of vehicle people might buy 2, or more of it.  I'm down for 6 anyway if it's done to-scale with modern figures...  If it were just the "head" portion done to-scale I'd still go for the customizing possibilities but Hasbro has it in them to really wow us with an OT resculpt.

TIE Fighter was nice...  It's an update, pretty simple one too, but the AT-ST's really something that needs the Landspeeder's treatment.  That was pretty slick.
Title: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Rob on June 23, 2007, 11:13 PM
Yep - forgot Slave one. 
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 26, 2007, 09:11 AM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: evenflow on June 26, 2007, 10:24 AM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?

I think i would prefer vintage cards with episode I pictures.
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Morgbug on June 26, 2007, 01:46 PM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?

I think i would prefer vintage cards with episode I pictures.

 >:(
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: evenflow on June 26, 2007, 02:50 PM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?

I think i would prefer vintage cards with episode I pictures.

 >:(

Trust me, i hear what you are saying, but i can't picture episode I cards in the clamshell and presented all special. It just doesnt work. Too new. Either way i won't get that same feeling of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2007, 03:06 PM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?

I hate those Episode I cards with a passion, but I'd much rather they did that then taint the vintage line with Prequel characters.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: speedermike on June 26, 2007, 04:49 PM
Oh, I think the whole appeal will be Ep 1 figs on vintage type cards, or never produced OT figs such as Tarkin or a RFT.  We've all seen customs of them, and they're very cool.
Title: Re: Possible Ultimate Maul & Obi-Wan in '08?
Post by: Morgbug on June 26, 2007, 04:53 PM
I am thinking that if they do include prequel figures into the vintage line, it will be with the 10th anniversary.

What if they did them on the Episode 1 cards?

I hate those Episode I cards with a passion, but I'd much rather they did that then taint the vintage line with Prequel characters.

I'd say that sums it up pretty well for me.  I don't really care that much if they make an SA prequel figure on a premium cardback in a clamshell.  There're enough out there that like the prequel stuff, so I understand it.  But I just don't want them to sully the Vintage cardback at all.  Plus there's no need to ding collectors $10 for the premium stuff anyway.  Superarticulation is really pretty pointless in-package.  

And Dan, I know you understand, I just gotta put in my $0.02

Oh, I think the whole appeal will be Ep 1 figs on vintage type cards, or never produced OT figs such as Tarkin or a RFT.  We've all seen customs of them, and they're very cool.

No, actually, I think they look stupid.  There's just no real rationalization for them being on vintage cards.  They're only 8 years old and don't qualify as vintage anything, they're modern era.  I'd be more accepting of unproduced vintage figures because they're from those movies at least.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Artoo on June 26, 2007, 06:45 PM
Who says they needed to be on a vintage style or TPM card? Why can't they be on a basic figure card?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2007, 06:59 PM
I'm more accepting of unproduced figures, as they actually make sense...  Sculpts of some of them exist, and sketches of others like Tarkin and the RFT exist I believe, so those things that are "almost made" really I think would be kind of cool in the vintage line, but at the same time I'm tired of the pricepoint.  Pawlus said something about this recently and I tend to agree...  Hasbro's milking the $10 pricepoint for figures you should basically get all the time.  Very few figures in the vintage format really make you feel good about paying $10 for them.

I love Bespin Luke or Hoth Han...  I even like Leia from the first series, and Han, and the Stormtrooper...  All great figures, but any time I reviewed vintage one of my gripes has always been the price is too much.  They're really rarely anymore premium than a basic figure generally is.  Articulation, regardless of Hasbro's bellyaching on the matter, is something you should EXPECT on figures...  I can see the paint aps, at times, but in general they aren't anything more or less than you get with MOST basic figures.  Accessories with the vintage figures are non-exist for many of them too, so really you lose out in some cases, at least with that aspect of cost...

So obviously I'm very against prequal figures at this point showing up crowbarred onto vintage-style cards and costing a premium.  THe "unproduced" idea has a certain coolness to it but obviously I'd like a new Tarkin and Fleet Trooper in the basic line because we deserve that I think.  And I'm still torn on if I'd really be content paying $10 for a Jawa, or Ewok, or Ugnaught, or Rancor Keeper...  So I'm really not sure I even want the vintage line "finished" in this format.  That's my opinion though...  Seems it's going to go against me anyway though, and the vintage line seems to do better at retail than the old Ultra/Deluxe lines have, so I can't say what they're doing doesn't make sense to them.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darby on June 26, 2007, 11:02 PM
I think unproduced OT figs in the vintage line is the only way to go.  It's the only way to make it 'special.'  $10 for the same quality fig as in the basic line is unjustified, and if we got Tarkin, Wedge, Slave Leia etc. on vintage cards it would make for a substantial reason to collect them carded.  Otherwise, I'd like to see the whole thing go away. 
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2007, 11:27 PM
I think unproduced OT figs in the vintage line is the only way to go.  It's the only way to make it 'special.'  $10 for the same quality fig as in the basic line is unjustified, and if we got Tarkin, Wedge, Slave Leia etc. on vintage cards it would make for a substantial reason to collect them carded.  Otherwise, I'd like to see the whole thing go away. 

I still think they should stick to what's vintage can be vintage again - but if they have to step outside of that, I might be able to convince myself that this was okay.

Prequel characters, under no circumstance.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 26, 2007, 11:49 PM
I'd be fine if they stopped the whole vintage line altogether after another wave or two.  Really all I can think of as figures that I truly want to see done in this style are the following -

- ROTJ Luke
- Gamorrean Guard
- Emperor
- Royal Guard
- Death Squad Trooper
- Jawa

Maybe a couple others, but I'm pretty tired of spending $10-$12 for good versions of figures.  They can do them in the basic line for about half the price.  I would love to see a special Jabba the Hutt done though that's reminiscent of the vintage setup with his dais.

Regarding prequel figures in this style... I'd rather them not.  Not for any purist ideals, but for the price they would be at retail. 

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: speedermike on June 27, 2007, 12:22 AM
I don't know, when I see something like this, I just feel like everything is tied together in one big idea, as opposed to the OT vs. PT thing...
(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/PICT0011198.jpg)

(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/card_bubble/032.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Vator on June 27, 2007, 01:19 AM
Why not just re-adopt the OTC-style cardbacks for the 2008 line? That way, we can forget about the silly VOTC line (I've never taken to calling it VTSC, VTAC, etc). The clamshell is a waste of resources, and the $10-12 pricepoint is hard to conscience for figures which really aren't any different than those available in basic.

So, yeah. VOTC really isn't as viable or attractive as it once was, for me at least. Did we need Bossk? Do we need an Ugnaught? Do we need Jango Fett? Yes- but they should've/should be in the basic line.

(Quietly acknowledges the fact that, sure enough, we may well be facing a $10-12 pricepoint in the not-so-distant future for basic figures... quality downgrades notwithstanding)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: CHEWIE on June 27, 2007, 03:13 AM
Well, for that matter - I do love vintage style packaging and seeing prequel characters in that does look awesome - so why not just make a line of all 6 films, that have vintage style packaging but no clam shells and are around $5-$7 each?  Some bubbles would obviously be larger than others for bigger characters, but it might work out just fine?

If basic figures hit $10 or so, that's just too high.  It could happen down the road, but for over 10 years they've stayed relatively the same price, so I don't see that big of a price hike anytime soon... especially not with how VTAC is sitting in my neck of the woods and from most reports I hear.

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: evenflow on June 27, 2007, 07:00 AM
I don't know, when I see something like this, I just feel like everything is tied together in one big idea, as opposed to the OT vs. PT thing...
(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/PICT0011198.jpg)

(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/card_bubble/032.jpg)

OK, now that i see it. It really just doesnt look right. I am actually surprised how much it doesnt look right. If the vintage line continues i think the only thing i will go for is original characters that should have been made like Yarna, Tarkin, Slave Leia...on the vintage cards.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 27, 2007, 09:33 AM
I don't know, when I see something like this, I just feel like everything is tied together in one big idea, as opposed to the OT vs. PT thing...
(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/PICT0011198.jpg)

(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/card_bubble/032.jpg)

I, on the other hand, feel violated. :P

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2007, 10:02 AM
I don't know how I feel about the prequel figures on "vintage" cardbacks either.  Like others have mentioned, I would rather they just create something similar to the OTC cardback - or maybe even a hybrid of the vintage and OTC cards.  Heck, I've ended up liking this year's basic figure cardbacks much more than I thought I would too.  I guess I prefer the character specific picture/artwork on the cardbacks instead of all the various inserts we used to get with the different figure lines.

As much as I like the VOTC/VTSC line (its the favorite part of my collection), I think I would be ok if it went away as well, if this is how things are going to go.  I wouldn't mind one more wave, covering figures like Jedi Luke, Bespin Han, and a handful of others.  Otherwise, it seems like Hasbro is capable of putting this type of quality into the basic line, and I'd just as soon they put it there.  Make a nice "Saga encompassing" type of cardback, incorporating the elements that most people seem to like so much from the OTC/Vintage/TAC lines, and just include everything on those.  We don't need to start paying $10 for all of our "good" figures, which is where things seem to be leading eventually.  Heck, aside from Target's price bump on the vintage stuff, the difference is really only $3 between basic and "Deluxe" pricepoints at this point.

Now that's not to say I won't keep buying the VTSC line if it continues, I will, but I think I'd be ok with another wave or two and then just having a nice, well rounded basic line.  Heck, if they have to cut back the number of total figures in a year to put more quality into each one released, that's ok with me.  Give us the vintage quality (which we often get in the basic line - especially recently), and slow down the figures a bit.  Back to the subject though, it doesn't seem quite right putting the prequel figures on "vintage" cards with a clamshell and charging $10 - like others have said, there's nothing "vintage" about a line that is 8 years old.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: P-Siddy on June 27, 2007, 10:51 AM
I agree that I don't like shelling out $3-5 extra on vintage figures that we could buy for the $7 range we are now. I mean, it's probably frustrating to those who bought the vintage Scout Trooper in droves last year to find it released later in the same year as the Kashyyyk scout, and then in the next rereleased in the Legends line for the basic figure price! So hasbro can't say that they have to price the vintage figures higher than the basics because they're more expensive to produce. I doubt the cards are worth the extra $3-5.

As for prequel "vintage", I find it hard to think of TPM as vintage like I can the OT. It's just too recent. But I like the idea of the scene-specific pictures on the cards... maybe not exactly like those from the OT, but something similar.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: David on June 27, 2007, 06:33 PM
I don't know, when I see something like this, I just feel like everything is tied together in one big idea, as opposed to the OT vs. PT thing...
(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/PICT0011198.jpg)

(http://starwarscustomcarded.com/store/images/card_bubble/032.jpg)

OK, now that i see it. It really just doesnt look right. I am actually surprised how much it doesnt look right. If the vintage line continues i think the only thing i will go for is original characters that should have been made like Yarna, Tarkin, Slave Leia...on the vintage cards.

My feelings exactly. I really just think good PT characters should be on basic figure cards and that this line (VOTC) is just meant for Kenner. However, I too would be fine with Yarna, Tarkin, Slave Leia, etc. on vintage cards.

But Nien Nunb, Yakface, Sim Aloo, and Admiral Ackbar first.  8)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: brian_peppers on June 28, 2007, 12:49 PM
maybe they could make new figures from ot on vintage cards
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: P-Siddy on June 28, 2007, 04:05 PM
But Nien Nunb, Yakface, Sim Aloo, and Admiral Ackbar first.  8)

My problem with Sim Aloo would be not fitting in with the 2 dignitaries that are already made. Besides, he's a minor character and really doesn't need to be SA... but yes, he looks evil on the card.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on June 28, 2007, 05:15 PM
maybe they could make new figures from ot on vintage cards

HMMMM, you know that sounds like a good idea, ::) Except it has already happened :o VOTC VTSC and VTAC
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Nicklab on June 28, 2007, 06:47 PM
Here's a breakdown of everything Curto mentioned in his rumor report on the Forcecast:


GENERAL LINE NOTES
-30AC line look continues into 2008 without the coins, possibly to be replaced by figure stands
-Mid 2008 the line will change to Clone Wars


BASIC FIGURES
-Willrow Hood - Ice Cream Maker Guy - Probably 2009
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/bb/Willrow-hood.jpg)


-Lumat & Female Ewok with Wokling - Lumat listed in figure stands
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/8b/Lumat_ccg.jpg)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/01/Nippett.jpg)


-Grand Admiral Thrawn - Updated
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/77/Thrawn.jpg)


-Commander Praji - Imperial Officer - A New Hope
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/4/42/CommanderPraji.jpg/564px-CommanderPraji.jpg)


-Wes Janson - Rogue Squadron Pilot - The Empire Strikes Back
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/89/Day9ianliston.jpg)


-ARC Trooper Pilot - Clone Wars Gunship Pilot
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/5/58/Arc_pilot.png)


-Senator Toonbuck Toora
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/6a/ToonbuckToora.jpg)


-Rebel Fleet Trooper - Super articulated
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/02/Chad_hilse.jpg)


DELUXE FIGURES
-Vader's Secret Apprentice - possible deluxe pack (already listed at toysrus.com)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/9/93/SecretApprentice.jpg/236px-SecretApprentice.jpg)


COMIC 2-PACKS
-Both figures TBA - Star Wars Legacy Comic 2-pack (not including main characters)

-Tsui Choi & FIGURE TBA - Star Wars PURGE
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/8f/Kaiandchoi.jpg)

-Janek "Tank" Sunber & FIGURE TBA - Comic 2-Pack
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/7/78/Sunber_rebellion1.jpg/432px-Sunber_rebellion1.jpg)

-Jabba the Hutt (aka Mosep) & FIGURE TBA (most likely Han Solo) - Marvel Comics adaptation
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/09/JabbaHut.jpg)


MULTI-PACKS
-Speeder bike set (possible battle pack with Biker Scouts with hovering effect)
-Cinema Scene - Death Star - possible 2009
-Cinema Scene - Cantina - possible 2009 (including tables/seats/bar parts/distillery)


VEHICLES
-Large vehicle(s) may be on the way
-B-Wing Starfighter - with human pilot
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/9/95/B-wing_infly.jpg/600px-B-wing_infly.jpg)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/4/44/B-wing_helmet.jpg/584px-B-wing_helmet.jpg)


-AT-TE - Based on appearance in Clone Wars trailer (Hasbro hinting strongly)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/df/All_Terrain_Tactical_Enforcer.jpg)


-AT-ST (expanded cockpit to fit two pilots)
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/d/d1/Atstendor.jpg/363px-Atstendor.jpg)



CREATURES
-Rancor (repack, possibly improved)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Deanna Rash on June 28, 2007, 08:38 PM
You think they could make an AT-ST with the windows open on one for a change. :-\ :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Daigo-Bah on June 29, 2007, 12:54 PM
You think they could make an AT-ST with the windows open on one for a change. :-\ :P

Well, I did anyway!

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/paed7fe7e09110272bf56b1973397a110/f51ce4ee.jpg)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p7b46299bd893ab02b6d28727eee29e6b/ec38b813.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: David on June 29, 2007, 06:34 PM

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/bb/Willrow-hood.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/7/77/Thrawn.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/4/42/CommanderPraji.jpg/564px-CommanderPraji.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/5/58/Arc_pilot.png)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/6a/ToonbuckToora.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/02/Chad_hilse.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/8f/Kaiandchoi.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/0/09/JabbaHut.jpg)

(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/df/All_Terrain_Tactical_Enforcer.jpg)



Thats the stuff Im most excited about, especially Mosip, Praji, ARC Pilot, and AT-TE. And of course ICMG. Maybe ICMG means a whole Bespin wave is coming?  :o

Oh, and nice AT-ST custom, Greg!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 30, 2007, 09:32 AM
maybe they could make new figures from ot on vintage cards

HMMMM, you know that sounds like a good idea, ::) Except it has already happened :o VOTC VTSC and VTAC

I think he meant what Rob was saying, OT characters, like Tarkin, who were never part of the original 96. :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Smartypants1635 on July 2, 2007, 10:09 PM
Don't encourage him. :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 3, 2007, 12:37 PM
I didn't realize a new Rebel Fleet Trooper might be in the works... man I hope it's finally done right.

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: AnakinsHand on July 3, 2007, 03:50 PM
Absolutely. Would be great to have some good looking Rebel Fleet Troops to fight (and lose) to the Stormies.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on July 4, 2007, 02:10 AM
My signature may even change...  Monumental.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 4, 2007, 09:29 AM
My signature may even change...  Monumental.

and your avitar? ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Diddly on July 4, 2007, 03:41 PM
Nah, I'm thinking that Hasbro will do something small like give the POTJ Fleet Trooper some new arms with swivel joints, just to spite Jesse James. ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 5, 2007, 09:39 AM
Or give the sculpting job to the same guy who did the DS Trooper. :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: David on July 5, 2007, 02:40 PM
Nah, I'm thinking that Hasbro will do something small like give the POTJ Fleet Trooper some new arms with swivel joints, just to spite Jesse James. ;)

Or give the sculpting job to the same guy who did the DS Trooper. :P

NOOOOOO!!!!!! Dont say those things.
If what Darth Anton is saying happens, then well have an RFT who's taller than Vader.  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Jesse James on July 5, 2007, 09:44 PM
I can fix height, I cannot fix crap...  POTJ Fleet Trooper is simply unfixable.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 5, 2007, 10:31 PM
I agree, that figure is unfixable.  With the Yavin Guard that's out now, there's no reason we can't get a Rebel Fleet Trooper with the same type of articulation and similar quality in sculpt... I really hope they get it right the next go round, because  I can't see them going beyond a 3rd sculpt on this figure. 

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Artoo on July 5, 2007, 11:21 PM
-Cinema Scene - Cantina - possible 2009 (including tables/seats/bar parts/distillery)

That would be the best thing Hasbro's ever done.  :o
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 6, 2007, 09:18 AM
No, the best thing Hasbro's ever done was dump the He-Man sculpting, or should we consider that Kenner?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: CHEWIE on July 6, 2007, 11:49 AM
I'd probably agree with that.  The second best thing they've done I believe is recognize the demand for army building. 

Both should have been no brainers for them though.

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors!
Post by: David on July 6, 2007, 12:57 PM
-Cinema Scene - Cantina - possible 2009 (including tables/seats/bar parts/distillery)

That would be the best thing Hasbro's ever done.  :o

Second best thing. The best thing is the McQuarrie Signature Series. That still sounds pretty cool though, depending on who/what it includes and the price.
Title: 2008 Rumors...
Post by: Brian on October 5, 2007, 03:38 PM
I was just listening to the ForceCast, and Curto was on there for a few minutes and dropped some rumors (also, he's going to start having his own "collecting microcast" in the future).  Here's a few bits (starting around the 47 minute mark I believe):

-The Mustafar Panning Droid in Wave 1 was a last minute substitution for another ROTS character that is now being held for the Clone Wars line

-2008 Waves (following Wave 1 - ROTS) will be based around the following:
Episode 2
Jabba's Palace/Tatooine
Death Star
Endor (a Lumat/Female with Wokling rumor is mentioned)

-May be more than 1 Force Unleashed Wave (a new Palpatine - with "Sith lightning shooting" - is rumored for one of these waves as well - via ToyFare)

-Fall - Clone Wars basically takes over the line (rumored to be 40-50 figures in this line alone, including pack ins/etc. - a Clone Armor Obi-Wan on Speeder Bike was mentioned to go with a repack of the Durge w/bike from the CW line)

It sounds like there might be more to come from Dan on his microcast possibly, so we'll see.  Its nice to get a small (rumored) glimpse at what else 2008 will hold for the basic line though.  I'm glad that there will be some more OT-based waves.  With Clone Wars taking up a lot of the year, I don't necessarily need a ton of prequel figures prior to that as well.  It sounds like its going to be another big (and expensive) year, especially if we're getting 50 figures out of the Clone Wars portion of the line alone.  Including the "pre-CW" waves, we could be looking at 80-90 figures for 2008 (yikes).  Who knows, its all rumors right now.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors...
Post by: P-Siddy on October 5, 2007, 03:52 PM
-The Mustafar Panning Droid in Wave 1 was a last minute substitution for another ROTS character that is now being held for the Clone Wars line

Hmm. I wonder if it'll be a to-scale Grievous?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 5, 2007, 03:54 PM
No TPM Wave? >:(

We aren't getting one this year either!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Reid on October 5, 2007, 03:57 PM
No TPM Wave? >:(

We aren't getting one this year either!

That's half correct...

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87500Hlg.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on October 5, 2007, 03:58 PM
Quote
Hmm. I wonder if it'll be a to-scale Grievous?

I hope so.  After opening the "pre-cyborg Grievous" and seeing how tall that figure is, it would be nice to get an all-new scaled version of him as we saw him in ROTS.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 5, 2007, 04:00 PM
After, this year Im going to REALLY cut back. No MORE Darth Vader, Emperor, R2/C3PO, Chewys..I guess what im saying no more legacey figures.  Im really looking foward to more cantina creatures,Jabba's palce , Ewoks, Jedi ( that I dont have*no mace*) Maybe the EU, see if they make more from KOTOR, and for god sake NO MORE CLONES! LOL!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: evenflow on October 5, 2007, 06:57 PM
As long as we get some Jabba's palace characters i am happy.  ;D I hope the wokkling rumor is true as well.

Also great news about the Mustafar Panning Droid. If not for the switch we probably would have not gotten this figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Daigo-Bah on October 5, 2007, 11:02 PM
Wow, next year may be pretty light for me as far as SW is concerned.  I'm skipping all Clone Wars and prequel waves.  But there are the Raiders and GI Joe lines  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 6, 2007, 01:24 AM
Wow, next year may be pretty light for me as far as SW is concerned.  I'm skipping all Clone Wars and prequel waves.  But there are the Raiders and GI Joe lines  ;D

I wish I could restrain from Clone Wars/prequel stuff, but I love it.  That era just has so many interesting characters, and the prequel era is still relatively new in terms of Star Wars... so, I guess I just have a high interest level in it.

As for the Indy line, I'm screwed.  I have no idea how I can collect Star Wars, GI JOE and Indy.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors...
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 6, 2007, 09:31 AM

-2008 Waves (following Wave 1 - ROTS) will be based around the following:
Episode 2
Jabba's Palace/Tatooine
Death Star
Endor (a Lumat/Female with Wokling rumor is mentioned)


Good to hear that there's still some OT in the works.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors...
Post by: P-Siddy on October 6, 2007, 05:33 PM

-2008 Waves (following Wave 1 - ROTS) will be based around the following:
Episode 2
Jabba's Palace/Tatooine
Death Star
Endor (a Lumat/Female with Wokling rumor is mentioned)


I think these waves really have a lot to offer.

Hopefully E2 will give us some more background Jedi, SA Obi-Wan and Anakin and some Padmes (I like Padmes, sorry). There are too many from Jabba's palace to list, but I hope we get some good ones. I'm curious to see who'd be in the DS wave and Endor (or if it's battle of). The Wokling is cool and I'm not a huge Ewok fan. Love to see some Imperial Dignitaries to finish off the 2 we got already and a new Piett.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 7, 2007, 09:14 AM
With Jabba's Palace and Death Star, we should be getting some cooler stuff since these types of waves have been done a couple of times in the last few years.

For Jabba's Palace, we had better see one or two of the figures offered up in the current JD poll. My hope is for Klaatu at least.

For Death Star, how can we not be getting some new officers? Everything else has been done.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 7, 2007, 11:06 AM
Hmm, here's my guesses for these rumored waves:
Episode 2
SA Mullet Obi-wan, SA Anakin, at least one Padme if not more. SA Jango (recarded from the Evolutions set) and maybe a new Nute Gunray though Hasbro may have learned their lesson with Neimoidians.

Jabba's Palace/Tatooine: Hmm, plenty of backgorund characters here to pull from, so no need to list them.

Death Star: SA LUKE! Imperial officers (maybe one or two from the set from this year), SA Emperor with Throne (and no, I don't mean toilet...heh)

Endor (a Lumat/Female with Wokling rumor is mentioned): Okay the mother ewok and wokling would be uber cool and has been wanted for a long time. Maybe the old rebel dude who put on the scout trooper armor.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: David on October 7, 2007, 11:26 AM
My biggest question is if the Death Star wave will be ANH themed, ROTJ themed, or a little of both?

ANH
Luke Skywalker (new, SA)
Obi-Wan Kenobi (new, SA)
Imperial Officer (new, SA)
Death Star Trooper (TAC, grey repaint)
Stormtrooper (VOTC, repack)
Wulf Yularen (TSC, repaint w/accurate pants)
Cassio Tagge (TSC, repack)
Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin (new, SA)

ROTJ
Emperor Palpatine (new, SA)
Sim Aloo (new)
Ars Dangor (new)
Sate Pestage (new)
Admiral Ackbar (new, SA)
General Madine (OTC, repack)
Nien Nunb (new, SA)
Grizz Frix (new, SA)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 7, 2007, 11:33 AM

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87500Hlg.jpg)


After the weekend I had, buying about 25 figures, I'm actually relieved to see that I'm totally skipping this wave.  There is nothing in there that interests me whatsoever.  Poncho clone would have been good with the SA clone helmet, but that evolutions helmet is just awful.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 7, 2007, 12:57 PM
Episode 2

I'm really hoping for some definitive versions of main characters, as well as some background scene-fillers...

* SA Padme (arena)
* SA Obi-Wan
* SA Yoda (with softgoods)
* Cliegg Lars
* Owen Lars
* Beru Lars
* SA Zam Wessel
* Any characters from the Outlander club


Jabba's Palace/Tatooine

For Jabba's palace & Tattoine, I'm hoping for figures that have either never been made (and will enhance dioramas), or figures that definitely need an update (I'm looking at you, Ponda Baba). This kind of encompasses the Cantina and Jabba's palace, because you know they'll do both of them next year anyways...

* Tonnika Sisters (seriously, what's the deal with this?)
* Sgt Doallyn
* Ree Yees (I'm putting him down because I think he's is ******* cool, and a new version with more articulation would be sweet)
* Slave Leia (I'm not expecting an SA version, but we need one that can lay down, even if she's sculpted like that)
* Brainiac (he could even come with a small sliver of bar to place in between the curved sections...or Wuher's distiller)
* Ponda Baba (this guy needs a makeover in a major way)
* Dr Evazan (see above)
* Human palace guards (there's a bunch of them, and we need some)


Death Star

Not sure if this is ROTJ or ANH, so I'm doing both...

* SA Emperor Palpatine with throne (one of my biggest wants in the line right now)
* SA Grand Moff Tarkin
* SA Final Duel Luke (with flap down)
* SA Admiral Ackbar (with command chair)
* Stormtrooper (rerelease this guy from now until eternity)
* Death Star Trooper (I can always use more of this guy, but with a head swap)
* Imperial officer (black tunic)
* Imperial technician (with scanning box)
* Han in stormtrooper disguise
* Luke in stormtrooper disguise


Endor

* Lumat/Female with Wokling
* SA Endor rebel trooper
* SA AT-ST driver
* Imperial trooper (basically, a death star trooper with jumpsuit...they were on Endor. Jesse, can you back me up on this?)
* Nien Nunb
* Wedge Antilles
* R2-D2 (with all his panels sticking out after he's been shot)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 7, 2007, 09:45 PM
Here's what I think we might get in 2008.  My own list is based on Curto's wave lineup, some of the recurring rumors we've been seeing for the past several months and my own speculation:


WAVE 2 - Jabba's Palace/Tatooine
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Cantina scuffle
Danz Borin - Mos Eisley Cantina
Brainiac - Mos Eisley Cantina
Wioslea
Yoxgit - Jabba's Palace
BG-J38 - Jabba's Palace Droid
Ak Rev - Max Rebo band drummer
Sergeant Doallyn


WAVE 3 - The Force Unleashed - Postponed from 2007
-Maris Brood
-General Rahm Kota
-Battle Ravaged Darth Vader
-Stormtrooper 1
-Stormtrooper 2
-Shadow Guard
-Juno Eclipse


WAVE 4 - The Force Unleashed - Postponed from 2007
-Emporer Palpatine
-Vader's Secret Apprentice
-Shaak Ti
-Proxy - Secret Apprentice's Droid



WAVE 5 - BATTLE OF ENDOR
-Han Solo - Ewok barbecue
-Luke Skywalker - Death Star II duel
-Darth Vader - Funeral Pyre
-Lumat & Female Ewok with wokling
-AT-ST Driver
-Nien Nunb - SA resculpt w/ removable cap


WAVE 6 - THE DEATH STAR
-Luke Skywalker - Tatooine garb w/ Stormtrooper belt & blaster
-Chewbacca - Imperial Captive
-Commander Praji
-Rebel Fleet Trooper - SA
-Death Star Docking Trench Stormtrooper
-Garven Dreis - Red Leader


WAVE 7 - ATTACK OF THE CLONES
-Obi-Wan Kenobi - Geonosis Arena w/ chain, spear & lightsaber
-Anakin Skywalker - Geonosis Arena w/ chain & green lightsaber
-Joclad Danva - Geonosis Arena
-Jocasta Nu - Jedi Archives Master
-Senator Toonbuck Toora
-Kaminoan cloner with clone infant
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 7, 2007, 10:12 PM
Quote
-Kaminoan cloner with clone infant

I take it the Kaminoan would be this one?

(http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/attack/2003/03/img/20030306_title.jpg)
      (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/attack/2003/03/img/ep2-1a-65592.jpg)

Or this one?

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/kaminoan/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Also where is that rumor from?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 8, 2007, 12:03 AM
Great lists guys, but where the F@*k is the ICMG?

Bespin Wave 8

ICMG with ugnaught companion
Electronic Ladies man Lando with 3 phrases: "Hello what have we here" - "You truly belong with us among the clouds" - How you doin' Chewbacca?"
White IG-88 Redeco
Black Bespin Guard & Foo-Man Chu version
Lieutenant Sheckil
SA Zuckuss
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 8, 2007, 12:23 AM
Quote
-Kaminoan cloner with clone infant

I take it the Kaminoan would be this one?

(http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/attack/2003/03/img/20030306_title.jpg)
      (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/explore/attack/2003/03/img/ep2-1a-65592.jpg)

Or this one?

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/kaminoan/img/eu_bg.jpg)

Also where is that rumor from?

That one is my own speculation.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 8, 2007, 12:24 AM
Great lists guys, but where the F@*k is the ICMG?


I'm pretty sure Hasbro said 2009, IIRC.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 8, 2007, 05:42 PM
Great lists guys, but where the F@*k is the ICMG?
I'm pretty sure Hasbro said 2009, IIRC.

I must have missed that.......I will have to dream about Electronic Lando.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedipurge on October 8, 2007, 06:39 PM



* Han in stormtrooper disguise
* Luke in stormtrooper disguise



I think I read somewhere that they were going to re release them in the comic packs minus the Marvel paint scheme.  Wave 5 I believe.... correct if wrong.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 8, 2007, 08:16 PM



* Han in stormtrooper disguise
* Luke in stormtrooper disguise



I think I read somewhere that they were going to re release them in the comic packs minus the Marvel paint scheme.  Wave 5 I believe.... correct if wrong.

Well, that's a relief. Wait...will we have to buy that craptastic Chewbacca mechanic figure?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CorranHorn on October 8, 2007, 08:38 PM



* Han in stormtrooper disguise
* Luke in stormtrooper disguise



I think I read somewhere that they were going to re release them in the comic packs minus the Marvel paint scheme.  Wave 5 I believe.... correct if wrong.

Well, that's a relief. Wait...will we have to buy that craptastic Chewbacca mechanic figure?

Yeah LTS we will. The movie accurate Han/Luke stormies are being packed in the same sets. I'm hoping the R2 that comes with Luke is movie accurate, it's about the only way I'll re-purchase that set.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Mister Skeezler on October 8, 2007, 08:40 PM
****...oh well.   :-\

I hope they aren't planning on rereleasing the rest of the set in realistic paint schemes...
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 8, 2007, 09:10 PM
Here's what I think we might get in 2008.  My own list is based on Curto's wave lineup, some of the recurring rumors we've been seeing for the past several months and my own speculation:


WAVE 2 - Jabba's Palace/Tatooine
Obi-Wan Kenobi - Cantina scuffle
Danz Borin - Mos Eisley Cantina
Brainiac - Mos Eisley Cantina
Wioslea
Yoxgit - Jabba's Palace
BG-J38 - Jabba's Palace Droid
Ak Rev - Max Rebo band drummer
Sergeant Doallyn


WAVE 3 - The Force Unleashed - Postponed from 2007
-Maris Brood
-General Rahm Kota
-Battle Ravaged Darth Vader
-Stormtrooper 1
-Stormtrooper 2
-Shadow Guard
-Juno Eclipse


WAVE 4 - The Force Unleashed - Postponed from 2007
-Emporer Palpatine
-Vader's Secret Apprentice
-Shaak Ti
-Proxy - Secret Apprentice's Droid



WAVE 5 - BATTLE OF ENDOR
-Han Solo - Ewok barbecue
-Luke Skywalker - Death Star II duel
-Darth Vader - Funeral Pyre
-Lumat & Female Ewok with wokling
-AT-ST Driver
-Nien Nunb - SA resculpt w/ removable cap


WAVE 6 - THE DEATH STAR
-Luke Skywalker - Tatooine garb w/ Stormtrooper belt & blaster
-Chewbacca - Imperial Captive
-Commander Praji
-Rebel Fleet Trooper - SA
-Death Star Docking Trench Stormtrooper
-Garven Dreis - Red Leader


WAVE 7 - ATTACK OF THE CLONES
-Obi-Wan Kenobi - Geonosis Arena w/ chain, spear & lightsaber
-Anakin Skywalker - Geonosis Arena w/ chain & green lightsaber
-Joclad Danva - Geonosis Arena
-Jocasta Nu - Jedi Archives Master
-Senator Toonbuck Toora
-Kaminoan cloner with clone infant
What about the Clone Wars figures? and where did you get Shaak Ti from? I thought Anakin knocked her off when he attacked the Jedi Temple?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 8, 2007, 09:29 PM
Shaak Ti is going to be in Force Unleashed, so hopefully there will be a new figure of her from the game...
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on October 8, 2007, 09:31 PM
and where did you get Shaak Ti from? I thought Anakin knocked her off when he attacked the Jedi Temple?

Shaak Ti is going to be in Force Unleashed, so hopefully there will be a new figure of her from the game...

Yeah, you can read about how Shaak Ti ties into the game's story at the game's Official Site (http://lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/#/story/characters/).  Here's a snippit:

"Shaak Ti was later able to escape Order 66, despite being in the Jedi Temple at the time of Darth Vader's attack. She fled Coruscant and traveled from world to world until finally landing on Felucia. Along the way, Shaak Ti found an orphaned Maris Brood and immediately sensed through the Force that Brood was a lost soul living on the edge of the dark side. Once on Felucia, Shaak Ti trained Maris Brood and the local Force-sensitive Felucians for an inevitable confrontation with the Dark Lord of the Sith."
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 8, 2007, 09:36 PM
What about the Clone Wars figures? and where did you get Shaak Ti from? I thought Anakin knocked her off when he attacked the Jedi Temple?

What, you want me to plan out AN ENTIRE YEAR?  WTF?!??!

As for Shaak Ti, check out The Force Unleashed - Characters (http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/#/story/characters/).  The information's out there provided you actually look.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 8, 2007, 09:56 PM
Yeah, you can read about how Shaak Ti ties into the game's story at the game's Official Site (http://lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/#/story/characters/).  Here's a snippit:

That painting of her is so damn hot.  I really hope we get a whole new sculpt for her based off of that.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CorranHorn on October 9, 2007, 12:05 AM
and where did you get Shaak Ti from? I thought Anakin knocked her off when he attacked the Jedi Temple?

Shaak Ti is going to be in Force Unleashed, so hopefully there will be a new figure of her from the game...

Yeah, you can read about how Shaak Ti ties into the game's story at the game's Official Site (http://lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/#/story/characters/).  Here's a snippit:

"Shaak Ti was later able to escape Order 66, despite being in the Jedi Temple at the time of Darth Vader's attack. She fled Coruscant and traveled from world to world until finally landing on Felucia. Along the way, Shaak Ti found an orphaned Maris Brood and immediately sensed through the Force that Brood was a lost soul living on the edge of the dark side. Once on Felucia, Shaak Ti trained Maris Brood and the local Force-sensitive Felucians for an inevitable confrontation with the Dark Lord of the Sith."

So they scripted two death scenes for her in ROTS and filmed at least one of them and yet Shaak Ti survives to make the video game? She is strong in the Force for sure.  :D
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on October 9, 2007, 01:25 AM
Yup, more or less.  Don't ya love EU? :)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 9, 2007, 02:19 AM
The one thing about Shaak Ti surviving that irks me is that I think it contradicts the Revenge Of The Sith  novelization.  In that I'm fairly certain that Vader kills her in the Jedi Temple.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 9, 2007, 09:29 AM
The thing that Irks me is that her death scene by Grevious made perfect plot sense, yet it was cut.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 9, 2007, 09:59 AM
Are you kidding?  The ensuing baseball sign exchange between Obi-Wan and Anakin was ridiculous.  I can totally understand why that was cut.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 12, 2007, 05:06 PM
4-Inches is saying the figure the Mustafar Lava Droid replaced in the 2008 Wave 1 was Stass Allie.

http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news.htm

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 12, 2007, 05:37 PM
4-Inches is saying the figure the Mustafar Lava Droid replaced in the 2008 Wave 1 was Stass Allie.

http://www.4-inches.de/inhalt/news.htm



Works for me. We'll prolly get Stass again somewhere down the line, I'd rather have the Lava Droid.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on October 12, 2007, 06:14 PM
I'd be glad to see Stass Allie in the basic lineup . Hopefully she will have a decent sculpt and no weird eyes, or rereleased with a BARC.

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 12, 2007, 06:54 PM
Hmmm, they're now saying she's in the AOTC Wave next year, not the Clone Wars line.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: evenflow on October 12, 2007, 08:41 PM
I am glad she got bumped for the droid, cooler figure in my book.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: David on October 12, 2007, 09:18 PM
I'm glad we're getting a new Stass and a new Lava Droid, we were in need of both, especially a new Stass. Great news!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: IshiTib on October 13, 2007, 04:59 PM
stass allie? how great, i love her and i'll surely buy her

i would even buy her if she comes out with this silly sculpt again :o
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on October 13, 2007, 09:53 PM
I'm up for a new version of her.  Super articulation would be outstanding... I wonder if somehow they'll use the sculpt of the Evolutions Bultar Swan as some sort of kit bash.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Artoo on October 14, 2007, 03:16 PM
I prefer the Lava Droid since we're getting both Mustafar Anakin & Obi-Wan. It looks pretty neat.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 16, 2007, 12:36 PM

Stass Allie is being listed here, no pic.

http://www.blister.jp/item7877.html
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Scott on October 16, 2007, 02:46 PM
That says 12" halfway down the page...doesn't it?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on October 16, 2007, 03:34 PM
All their basic figure listings say that.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 16, 2007, 04:36 PM
I am actually content with the ROTS Stass for now. I would much rather see Barris updated instead of Stass. Barris is overdue and would complement the very cool Luminaria. Stass in my opinion is really lame. I always like Adi Gallia better and would not mind her either in front of Allie as well.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 17, 2007, 09:21 AM
Are you kidding?  The ensuing baseball sign exchange between Obi-Wan and Anakin was ridiculous. 

They could have cut that part out. :P It's just that her death made sense on why there was a seat suddenly available on the council and neat knowing that Palpatine had ultimately arranged it.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on October 17, 2007, 10:53 AM
Are you kidding?  The ensuing baseball sign exchange between Obi-Wan and Anakin was ridiculous. 

They could have cut that part out. :P It's just that her death made sense on why there was a seat suddenly available on the council and neat knowing that Palpatine had ultimately arranged it.

Plus the fact that it would have made Grievous a bona fide onscreen Jedi-killer that he was supposed to be, instead of hoping that people watch the CW cartoons to get that.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: MetalJedi on October 17, 2007, 12:06 PM
Are you kidding?  The ensuing baseball sign exchange between Obi-Wan and Anakin was ridiculous. 

They could have cut that part out. :P It's just that her death made sense on why there was a seat suddenly available on the council and neat knowing that Palpatine had ultimately arranged it.

It's not her seat that Anakin takes. During the holo transmission to Yoda on Kashyyyk when the Jedi Council is shown you can see Shaak Ti in the transmission.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 18, 2007, 09:16 AM
Are you kidding?  The ensuing baseball sign exchange between Obi-Wan and Anakin was ridiculous. 

They could have cut that part out. :P It's just that her death made sense on why there was a seat suddenly available on the council and neat knowing that Palpatine had ultimately arranged it.

It's not her seat that Anakin takes. During the holo transmission to Yoda on Kashyyyk when the Jedi Council is shown you can see Shaak Ti in the transmission.

Yeaahhh. Saw that too. :P That scene was obviously added after they decided to cut the front.

They could have cut that out to make it make the opening scene make sense. All I'm sayin' is, with what Vlad said and making it her seat on the council the one that becomes available, it would have enhanced the sub-plot just a bit more.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: David on October 18, 2007, 08:07 PM

It's not her seat that Anakin takes.

It's Even Piell's if anyone was interested. Piell was killed by Grievous near ROTS I believe.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 23, 2007, 09:24 AM
Compared to last year, when did we start hearing about much of next years waves? It's feeling either about time to start hearing about wave 3, 4 and 5 or late hearing about them.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on October 23, 2007, 09:39 AM
I think we're pretty much on pace as far as news about new figures.  We usually see things up to about 6 months out.  The two major news events for Hasbro are Toy Fair and SDCC.  And we  wind up seeing the first half of their year at Toy Fair, and the second half at SDCC.  Stuff leaks out prior to those events, either from Hasbro themselves or from retailers who are sent imagery so that they can place their orders.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2007, 01:59 PM
I saw in the recent Q and A that Hasbro gave this info regarding the "classic" lineup for 2008:

"For 2008, we are going to take the classic total down by about one wave. So from the current 60 figures this year, expect around 53 figures or so. Episodes III-VI will each have waves along with a The Force Unleashed wave and a couple other surprises in there."

That seems to slightly contradict the earlier report (from the Forcecast/Dan Curto) that following Wave 1 we would have an Episode 2 wave, a Jabba's/Cantina wave, a Death Star Wave, and an Endor Wave (although everything aside from the AOTC wave could probably be made to fit).  That would make (with the Force Unleashed wave) 5 waves before the Clone Wars line takes over (as well as the "couple surprises" they mentioned) - along with their total of 50-or-so figures.  I don't see us having 10 figure waves (with the five waves they have), so something else must be contributing to that total - unless that includes Clone Wars as well, but that's not how I understood it.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 30, 2007, 09:24 AM
I think they said we're getting one less wave in '08, so depending on how you count '07, 8 or 9 waves (since 7.5 is in the bunch) we'll be getting 7 or 8 waves. Perhaps one will be yet another re-paint wave, but I would image the remaining waves will be clone war waves contributing to the basic figure line and the 53 figure total.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 30, 2007, 10:05 AM
Ok, since this is a speculative thread, let's do more of it.
Since we've heard 53 is the magic number for figures next year we'll go with that.

Assuming we have 8 waves of figures that's 7 figures per wave (give or take one as the total would be 56 figs and we are told 53)
So I'd speculate that the first  5 waves are "Classic" or TAC or whatever they want to call it.
Followed by ONE wave of TFU figs (which makes sense as that's all we've seen to this point).
Then lastly 2 waves of Clone Wars figures. (Which could carry over into future waves in 2009)

TFU has at least 7 figs that I can recall:
Maris Brood
Juno Eclipse
2 troopers
Vader
Sumo Jedi Master
Vader's Apprentice

That's all that's prolly needed from the game too (to start-if the game does well, and there's every reason to believe it will, we'll prolly see more figures in 2009).

So the shortage of 3 figures (even amounts of 7 figures per wave=56, minus 3, since the total is supposedly 53), will most likely come in the first 5 waves.

This works out quite nicely I think. Not a deluge of figures, broken up into larger "themes," and manageable. For those who are movie only collectors, you'll have a cheap year. For those wo don't buy video game figs, you'll get a break about mid-year. For those who don't buy repeated figures, there's plenty of opportunity to save. And for those who have to have one of every figure, it's still a decent amount.

-Sal
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2007, 10:19 AM
So I'd speculate that the first  5 waves are "Classic" or TAC or whatever they want to call it.
Followed by ONE wave of TFU figs (which makes sense as that's all we've seen to this point).

The only problem with your logic there is that we already know that TFU is slotted for Wave 2 in 2008.

I think when Hasbro said "a couple other surprises in there" they were meaning another EU based wave, like we got this year.  I could see it shaking out like this -

Wave 1 - RotS
Wave 2 - TFU
Wave 3 - ANH
Wave 4 - RotJ
Wave 5 - EU
Wave 6 - ESB

That's pretty much how it worked out in 2007, right down to the fact that 2007 Wave 2 (the Yavin IV stuff) was also a wave that was pushed back (from TSC in 2006) just like the TFU stuff this year.  ;)

Then, you fill Wave 7/8 with the switch over to Clone Wars cartoon...
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedipurge on October 30, 2007, 12:46 PM
So I'd speculate that the first  5 waves are "Classic" or TAC or whatever they want to call it.
Followed by ONE wave of TFU figs (which makes sense as that's all we've seen to this point).

The only problem with your logic there is that we already know that TFU is slotted for Wave 2 in 2008.

I think when Hasbro said "a couple other surprises in there" they were meaning another EU based wave, like we got this year.  I could see it shaking out like this -

Wave 1 - RotS
Wave 2 - TFU
Wave 3 - ANH
Wave 4 - RotJ
Wave 5 - EU
Wave 6 - ESB

That's pretty much how it worked out in 2007, right down to the fact that 2007 Wave 2 (the Yavin IV stuff) was also a wave that was pushed back (from TSC in 2006) just like the TFU stuff this year.  ;)

Then, you fill Wave 7/8 with the switch over to Clone Wars cartoon...

But I thought there was at least 1 wave of AOTC in the mix for next year.  But with Hasbro's logic like Jabba's wave this year that included figs from the Cantina is it really a ROTJ wave?  I don't know.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on October 30, 2007, 01:00 PM
But I thought there was at least 1 wave of AOTC in the mix for next year. 

Maybe, but Hasbro said in the Q&A last week that "Episodes III-VI will each have waves along with a The Force Unleashed wave and a couple other surprises in there".  No mention of AotC.


But with Hasbro's logic like Jabba's wave this year that included figs from the Cantina is it really a ROTJ wave?  I don't know.

During the summer conventions, Hasbro mentioned that the reason you saw some "wave shift" this year was due to factory costs/issues.  The Cantina Figures were originally supposed to be in the Tatooine/ANH wave, and Hermi and 3PO were supposed to be in the Jabba's wave, but the factory cost/issues caused those figures to get bumped back a wave.

The same thing happened in 2006 when part of the Endor wave was pushed back into the TPM wave, and the same thing is entirely possible in 2008 as well...  and if you believe the rumors, it's already happened with the creation of the Panning Droid figure set bumping a figure from the RotS wave into another wave where it doesn't technically belong.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 30, 2007, 01:50 PM
Okay, so just switch around the waves I mentioned.
Wv1, 3-6 are classic
Wv2 is TFU
and Wvs 7-8 are Clone Wars

Same result by the end of the year.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Desfiy on November 29, 2007, 08:24 PM
Well I'll be interested in, if it pans out this way.

The Revenge of the Sith wave, not all but some (but I wont be collecting these till the end of next year, when I do my collecting of all figures that are ROTS).

The Force Unleashed (will be getting most of these apart from the Darth Vader and Stormtrooper (although saying this I am drawn over the Stormtrooper)).

A New Hope (depending whats in it).

Return of the Jedi (depending whats in it).

Expanded Universe (depending whats in it, but I think they might put a Bastilla in there, just a hunch).

Empire Strikes Back (depending whats in it)

Clone Wars maybes if theres some decent figures in there for custom fodder but thats all.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 30, 2007, 08:53 AM
It's almost December. Shouldn't we already have conformation of the next couple of wave beyond wave 2?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on November 30, 2007, 10:03 AM
Something should be leaking soon.  Give it a few weeks.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Desfiy on November 30, 2007, 03:53 PM
I've decided on looking at the ROTS figures further, I am more than likely only going to pick up one and thats the 2-1B.

As I dont think I want to start another Movie Figure Collection, seeing I am working on my OT Collection still.

Once I have this sorted then I might look at whats out there for ROTS, but theres also the Indiana Jones figures which I like the looks of as well and the Pirates of the Caribbean figures and the Golden Compass figures, so at the min I dont know.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 4, 2007, 09:39 AM
I noticed that RS (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2940846&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#Post29408712940846) has a list compiled of all the rumors and speculation (or a number of them) for 2008.  I don't know if there is anything new on there (some of it looks pretty old too), but if anyone is interested, there is some interesting things listed there.  Regardless, it does sound like its going to be a big (and expensive) year again next year.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: I Am Sith on December 4, 2007, 09:51 AM
Wow, there are a lot of great figures and multi-packs next year if these all come true.  However, I'm glad that I'm getting out of collecting carded Hasbro figures...  That would be yet another expensive year.

I still paln on picking up the multi-figure sets like Evo, comic packs, and O-66 packs though.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: iFett on December 4, 2007, 10:07 AM
However, I'm glad that I'm getting out of collecting carded Hasbro figures...  That would be yet another expensive year.

Same here, but I haven't quite figured out how to "collect" going forward as I've been a carded/boxed completist for the past 7 years.  I'm tempted just to take a break for awhile, but I am looking forward to the Unleashed stuff - that's one set I'd like to keep carded.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Scott on December 4, 2007, 10:59 AM
Since when is Stan a source of rumors?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: I Am Sith on December 4, 2007, 11:45 AM
Same here, but I haven't quite figured out how to "collect" going forward as I've been a carded/boxed completist for the past 7 years.

Unfortunately I'll still be spending the same if not more on figures next year, they will just be Kubricks!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on December 4, 2007, 02:21 PM
Since when is Stan a source of rumors?

I was kind of wondering that as well?

Anyway for next year we should still have all this type of stuff right? 

1) Basic Figures 
2) Saga Legends - Or a new name for it?
2) Comic Packs
3) Evolutions - Sith and Jedi at least.
4) Battle Packs - Assume so
5) Order 66 Packs
6) Collector Tins??? 

Really the only thing going away figure-wise is the "vintage" cardbacks I believe.  I am assuming at the end of the year we will still get about the same number of figures as we did this year maybe 10-15 less perhaps? 
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 4, 2007, 03:35 PM
Other than TFU, it doesn't appear to be an army building year.

That's great news for me, since I'm cutting my SW budget in half for 2008.

I'm only building squads of 5 troopers from now on with the corrected Kashyyyk Trooper being the lone exception to this.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on December 4, 2007, 03:49 PM
RS has ICMG on the list... I thought for sure it was said he'd be here in '09.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 4, 2007, 04:03 PM
I noticed that too, it seems like that RS compilation basically covers all the rumors that have popped up for quite some time now.  I notice a lot of things from GH's last rumor list, which was out quite a ways back (I think they say April).  I don't know how accurate much of it is, but I'm sure we'll see some of the stuff off of this list.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Desfiy on December 4, 2007, 04:24 PM
Well even if we only see a third of it, theres still some decent figures on there, as for the Marvel Comic Pack I cant see it happening, as they said they were bringing only two Marvel out and that would be Dala and Shysa as the comic packs for Marvel.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 5, 2007, 09:17 AM
Since when is Stan a source of rumors?

That's my reaction as well. Anyone can guess figures that are coming out and get some right. :P
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Ice on December 5, 2007, 09:39 AM
Other than TFU, it doesn't appear to be an army building year.

That's great news for me, since I'm cutting my SW budget in half for 2008.

I'm only building squads of 5 troopers from now on with the corrected Kashyyyk Trooper being the lone exception to this.
Only 5? Cutting back? LOL!  Im cutting back next year as well! Im not going to be completest next year. I do not need more R2's &C3PO's. Vaders,Chewys,Hans,OBi,Anakins, ect., I have to see the TFU figures, but the only ones I plan on buying are Vader's SA and Juno. I just want to cut back!!!! ;D I need help!!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: darthchuckmc on December 5, 2007, 12:28 PM
I'm sticking to Saga figures only. I haven't decided on TFU yet, but I'll be skipping CW line, unless they are Clones with cool deco made in the movie style.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 5, 2007, 01:35 PM
Other than TFU, it doesn't appear to be an army building year.

That's great news for me, since I'm cutting my SW budget in half for 2008.

I'm only building squads of 5 troopers from now on with the corrected Kashyyyk Trooper being the lone exception to this.
Only 5? Cutting back? LOL!  Im cutting back next year as well! Im not going to be completest next year. I do not need more R2's &C3PO's. Vaders,Chewys,Hans,OBi,Anakins, ect., I have to see the TFU figures, but the only ones I plan on buying are Vader's SA and Juno. I just want to cut back!!!! ;D I need help!!

Well when you consider that for me at bare minimum I would get  20 of any troop type figure, yes it's an extreme cut back. Some troops I bought 40 of and in the case of the Utapau trooper have well over 100 of. So again yes, 5 troops of a specific troop type character is cutting way back for me.

Figure at $7 a pop, and comparing me going from 20 down to only 5 troop figs, I'm saving $105 per troop type figure. Not to mention the ones I buy more than 20 of.
I wasn't just an army builder, I was an extreme army builder. Now I'll be content at being a squad builder...lol

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 17, 2007, 09:15 AM
Checking out RS' 411 Report for 2008 (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_411_Hasbros_2008_Plans_110912.asp), and if those rumors hold true, it looks like its going to be another big year.  And here I thought I could cut back, but that doesn't look very likely.  I know some of the stuff is already being commented on in other threads, but I thought I'd bump this one up with a few rumors as well (more at the linky):

Figures

Clone Wars - 17 figures to start with, more to follow
Basic Figure Line - 30 Figures are mentioned, with the "build a droid" pack in
Force Unleashed - Aside from what's already been seen, more waves are expected
Comic Packs - 15 new two packs
Evolutions - 8 sets throughout the year
Battle Packs - Plans for 18 next year

Vehicles

AT-TE - We've all been discussing this ($99.99)
Millennium Falcon - Apparently retooled to hold 20 figures
"Basic" Assortment - 10 Icon vehicles on the way

Exclusives

The Force Unleashed Jungle Rancor Battle Pack
Jabba's Palace Rancor Battle Pack
Jabba's Skiff Guards Battle Pack
The Force Unleashed Battle Pack
Aayla Secura Starfighter
Clone Wars Battle Pack

That isn't including all the other stuff, like Galactic Heroes (28 two packs and 5 vehicles), Unleashed battle packs (18), Mighty Muggz (22 figures), and other miscellaneous stuff.  It all sounds cool, but yikes, I better start saving now.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 17, 2007, 09:55 AM
Couldn't be any more excited about the Falcon, I hope retooling means bigger. I still have managed not to open any on the ones released since '95.

Also excited about the build a droid gimmick, hoping it's the big spider droid, but hope it won't force me to buy figures I don't want. Probably will though. I've been vocal about figures I discriminate against, so they're probably doing stuff like that and the coins just to spite me. It is all about me after all. ;)

Other than that, lots of stuff. Good year to cut back.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Artoo on December 17, 2007, 10:56 AM
That Falcon set sounds great!
Next year will be very expensive.  :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: iFett on December 17, 2007, 11:00 AM
Lots of good stuff heading our way.  Not really sure how much of this I can resist being that 08 is the year I was planning on significantly cutting back.   :-\

That Falcon set sounds great!

Ya, but I already know how to stick 20 figures in my Falcon.  I have hopes, but they're not very high.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 17, 2007, 12:33 PM
I'm getting more and more stoked about the AT-TE. 20 clones fitting inside, lights and sounds? Really, this report better be true, otherwise the guy at RS is one huge jag-off.

I didn't really want to buy another Falcon, however if it's much bigger inside and has all the bells and whistles as has been claimed in that report, then I may bite on it, depending on cost.

Lots of other good things coming out next year.

Certainly seems to be the year of the vehicle, at least to me.

I'll be passing on Galactic Heroes and the mighty mugg things. In fact I'll be selling off my Galactic Heroes collection this year. They are cute and all, but I didn't buy the playsets. Just didn't want to pay $30 for just one or two new ones and that left me with a bad taste in my mouth. So I've quit collecting that line.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Daigo-Bah on December 17, 2007, 02:02 PM
Reading the 411 report reminded me about how, despite the huge increase in merchandise Hasbro has been producing year after year, there are progressively fewer and fewer things each year that I buy since my collection is entirely OT.  Up until early '99, I bought everything since it was all relating to the 3 OT films other than the odd item here or there, but next year probably has, what, 10% of OT merchandise?  I thought the PT films would halve the OT output, but now comics, cartoon, and other EU related material is taking over!

I would be very excited about the Millennium Falcon if it wasn't for the word "retool".  That sounds like it will have the same outer shell but all new innards.  If that's the case, easy pass for me.  But if they re-sculpt it at least 20% bigger and a bit more proportionate, I'm in.  The BAF Droid idea could work out nicely, but I hope each wave of 5 or 6 has one BAF, and that it is a droid relating to that wave.  For example, I'd like to see a Battle of Yavin wave that has a Red Leader R5 unit in 4 or 5 parts spread throughout.  Or even better, a Hoth wave with a resculpted Probe Droid in 5 or 6 parts.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt on December 17, 2007, 02:30 PM
I would be very excited about the Millennium Falcon if it wasn't for the word "retool".  That sounds like it will have the same outer shell but all new innards.  If that's the case, easy pass for me.  But if they re-sculpt it at least 20% bigger and a bit more proportionate, I'm in.

Here's something from a few months back which I found kind of interesting:

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If you had the opportunity to re-design the Millenium Falcon toy from scratch, what is one thing you would want to incorporate that was not on the original toy? (JI, 08/17/07) (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=10583)

Hah - that's a great question. While there were a variety of responses from our team when questioned, the #1 answer seems to be room in the cockpit to fit four figures and actual smuggling compartments. Sorry, that's two things, but we can always dream, can't we?

A redesigned cockpit would definitely have to be bigger than the current version, but the current cockpit is already way out-of-scale with the rest of the ship, and a bigger cockpit would be even moreso.

I'd love to see what they could do with an all-new Falcon, built from scratch.  No doubt it would run circles around the existing one.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on December 17, 2007, 02:35 PM
Agreed... a new sculpt would be the icing on the cake for OT vehicles as far as I'm concerned... very unlikely that it could be to scale or anything, but I'm thinking that it will be quite a bit larger than the vintage mold. 

I'd love to see an extending hatch for Lando to rescue Luke.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on December 17, 2007, 02:39 PM
I'd love to see an extending hatch for Lando to rescue Luke.   :)

A med-bay would be cool too so Luke can lay there with his arm bacta thingy.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Matt on December 17, 2007, 03:00 PM
There's nothing in that report that indicates that the Falcon will be any bigger:

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The current plan is a retooled Falcon that not only has lights, sounds, and firing missiles, it also has character sound bites and can fit 20 figures!

The most recent update to the Falcon included lights, sounds, and firing missiles, so that's no big deal.  Neither is a new sound bite chip.  The 20 figures thing is a bit puzzling, though.

One thing that I've always found strange about all the Falcon toys is that huge wedge or pie slice that's blocked off, that you can't do anything with.  I've never dismantled a Falcon, so I don't know what all is housed in that section, but perhaps they've found a way to open that up for another little play area.  Maybe that's the big retool, I don't know.  Just a guess.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on December 17, 2007, 03:23 PM
I hope you're wrong about that Matt, but that could very well be the way they're going with this.  If it is, I'll most likely pass.

New = Chewie buys. 
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jayson on December 17, 2007, 07:05 PM
From Hasbro.com (http://hasbro.com/starwars/default.cfm?page=news&newsID=EA11ECA7-D56F-E112-41042A9CD713E663) today:

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The coming year is going to be very exciting for Hasbro’s boys properties. We realize that fans are anticipating 2008 as much as we are, and that speculation on our line is a large part of the excitement.  Fans of Hasbro’s boys brands may be noticing some information circulating on the web.  While you may be tempted to believe that this information is accurate, we want to remind our fans, that unless product information or images are posted on an official Hasbro brand site, brand Q&A, or released by Hasbro’s Corporate Communications team, the information is not authorized and therefore not official.  We do not want to get consumer hopes up when rumors turn out to be unfounded.

We can’t wait to share great information, images and products with fans of all ages at the appropriate time as determined by Hasbro and, as appropriate, our licensors.

The various rumor mills have either hit a big nerve with Hasbro and spoiled a chunk of their TF and CC plans or we've set ourselves up for some large disappointments in the coming year.  :-\


Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 17, 2007, 08:05 PM
Wow.  This is a pretty significant response from Hasbro.

I've heard that some people inside Hasbro have been wondering just where Rebelscum has been getting info and/or hard copies of product so early.  I wonder if this info might be significant enough that Hasbro is able to trace it back to the party who leaked it out.

They had taken a hard stance on things like this a few years back.  I remember their PR team basically threatening to embargo websites that were posting unauthorized imagery of some unannounced figures.  I wonder if this incident is going to elicit a similar response towards collecting sites.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on December 17, 2007, 08:40 PM
Well, I can see Hasbro's point. 

There is a lot of stuff that gets cancelled or made exclusive or delayed, so it's not like everything on the 411 rumor list is guaranteed.  Many folks take these lists as 100% gospel, but there are often a lot of misses on them...

Let's look back at RS's 411 for 2007 (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_411_Get_Ready_To_Drool_99045.asp):

- 30th Anniversary Showcase Poster Packs? never happened
- Wave 3: RotJ - Oola w/Chain never happened
- Wave 4: AOTC - Mace Windu #2 never happened
- Wave 4: AOTC - EU Yuuzhan Vong never happened
- Limited Edition Vintage Assortment - Jawa never happened
- Limited Edition Vintage Assortment - Bespin Han Solo never happened

Those are just a few examples, I'm sure if you dug into all those 411 lists, you could find more. 

Anyway, yeah - rumor lists are fun, but you have to remember they are just that - rumor lists.  I'm sure there are a few clunkers on the current list, only time will tell I guess.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on December 17, 2007, 09:14 PM
Exactly Jeff, and that's why sometimes I think the over-zealous nature of forums is a detriment to posting anything anyway...  I think it's contained in a smaller community where we've all been in this for a long time mostly.  We know the ropes, and that things change, and we also know a rumor and a wishlist are things that can easily get misconstrued...  And I think that happens with some "intent" at times through certain people.

Your list is a perfect example Jeff, of things that maybe were on lists and nixed, maybe got prototyped and dropped, or for all we know they weren't even discussed or seriously considered, and simply were someone's wishful thinking.

You go to a site like rebelscum's forums though, and you've got a TON of people saying a lot of basically bull**** things about new products.  Case-in-point would be AT-TE news from the past week...  Cool and all, but immediately I got a number of mails about exclusivity and such to Target...  People see a Target DPCI and there was immediate rapid stupidity claiming it as exclusive to that store, then panic sets in with others over exclusivity they "heard", and things.

One person says it, another believes it and says it again, and so goes the growing snowball effect...  And that's just simply not the truth or even known at the moment.

Such is the hobby though...  It was the same 10 years ago, just different players at the time.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 17, 2007, 09:33 PM
I do not see their point at all.

Whether it's true or not I feel that was a pretty dick move on Hasbro's part to release a statement like that. Part of the fun is the speculation & rumors about the line and finding out whats coming through leaks. They should be thankful we are that interested in it to care what's coming out next year. So what if it's true, like it's really going to affect what we buy. From what I heard everyone is pretty juiced about the list. If it turns out some of it's not true for various reasons what does it really change? If anything it is a good indicator for a possible future release. **** happens, they should not have their panties in a bunch. (Seeing the faces under the Mandos I am not surprised by this)

Sometimes Hasbro's no comment answers just dont cut it. The UBP were so hush-hush when it was so well known for months. What was their response the entire time: "no comment". Target's a bunch of ***********, they should be happy we shop there at all the way they treat us yet we gobbled them all up, well at least the UBPs. (The Arcs, Arc BP & AT-RT are rotting nicely.)

You know where Rebelscum gets their info? I will tell you, most likely from a sales rep. It's quite common in the Toy industry that information of line lists leak through sales reps that have the information to present to buyers. They have to solicit order sheets for forecasts. RS has a good contact most likely in the sales division. When I was at Mattel we knew what Hasbro and every other company had up their sleeves 80% of the time. Word gets out and we are days away form 2008, the line is buttoned up. 75% is in production or produced to ship in time, they know whats coming out so do not buy that garbage for a second. Very few things at this point will get moved or dropped.

I am not going to let Hasbro make me feel like my hand was slapped because "I dipped into the cookie jar". They can get that 3.75 figure and shove it 3.75 inches up their ass. Let them try and "punish" us. Like politicians, you have to make your voice heard with your vote. In the case of Hasbro make them hear you with your dollar. They will listen. We have no reason to grovel.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on December 17, 2007, 10:28 PM
Hasbro has one legitimate point that I can understand:  they don't want to get people's expectations up needlessly.  That leads to bad feelings among collectors and I can understand them trying to avoid some bad PR.

But Hasbro has SOME responsibility to bear here.  Why?  Because they're letting collector media dominate the news cycle about the line.  News releases have been few and far between.  The Q&A process has been a nice sort of news supplement, but we've gotten less and less in the way of news releases from Hasbro.  Hasbro has let the situation change so that collectors are depending more on collecting websites than on official Hasbro news.  The end result is that those websites run with what news they can find, and since they're collector media and not regular press they'll publish info without the fact checking and confirmations that a regular reporter would do.

If Hasbro decides to be more forthcoming with the info, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to post the things they said today.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2007, 09:21 AM
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But Hasbro has SOME responsibility to bear here.  Why?  Because they're letting collector media dominate the news cycle about the line.  News releases have been few and far between.  The Q&A process has been a nice sort of news supplement, but we've gotten less and less in the way of news releases from Hasbro.  Hasbro has let the situation change so that collectors are depending more on collecting websites than on official Hasbro news.  The end result is that those websites run with what news they can find, and since they're collector media and not regular press they'll publish info without the fact checking and confirmations that a regular reporter would do.

If Hasbro decides to be more forthcoming with the info, then maybe they wouldn't feel the need to post the things they said today.

This is an excellent point.  When is the last time you can remember Hasbro.com breaking new info about the Star Wars line?  Sure, there have always been rumors circling when things are on the way, but I think even with the first round of the VOTC figures, the first time we really saw them well was on Hasbro's site.  These days, the updates are virtually non-existent.  Like you mentioned, if they would debut figure waves/etc. on their site, and not act like these toys are national security issues, they wouldn't have nearly the problems with rumor lists and speculation most likely.  Its part of the age we live in now with the internet, but if they kept their site a little more update with news and not just new games or things like that, it would probably help the situation a bit for Hasbro.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 18, 2007, 09:46 AM
I agree 100% with JACKOFTRADZE.

If hasbro wants to keep us from being disappointed, then they need to diffuse this now by just coming out with the info.
Yes, they wanted to hold it until ToyFair, but in today's age, holding onto news is just unrealistic.
If the news of the AT-TE (among the other RS 411 reports) then Hasbro needs to say so definitively.

Problem is they say this or that is not coming out, then BAM 6 months later there it is.
We all know Hasbro's claims that it takes a year of longer for a toy to make it to market.
So if they make a claim that something isn't coming out, then 6 months later it does, we all know they are LYING.

So rather than admonish we collectors for getting excited about this, they should relish in this if indeed the report is true.
It should be clear to Hasbro now from the great response the AT-TE is getting. If that report ISN'T true, then at the least it's excellent consumer feedback for them without them having to do any work.

I've got to be honest to say that while I'm stoked by the report, the specs for the AT-TE as given seem like a fanboy dream. Lights, sounds and room for 20 clones??? That seems WAY over the top. I'm still hoping that if made it will have room for 7 clones and doesn't have to have lights and sound, just be in scale. That would be quite enough for me.

It's a wait and see on our part, but Hasbro should not tell us to basically "shut up" about the news.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on December 18, 2007, 10:14 AM
Although we know things (with Hasbro's news) likely won't change anytime soon, how would you like to see the news be released?  If Hasbro did choose to actually release news on their website, would you like it in small doses (holding some for Toy Fair and/or Comic Con), would you like to know what's coming for the first half of the year, or the entire year at once?  Would you like a basic outline/idea, and then maybe get pics and further info in small doses throughout the year?

Although I'm always ready for more/new information, I guess I don't mind if we get it in doses throughout the year.  I don't necessarily like having only Toy Fair and Comic Con be the times when we actually get concrete information from Hasbro about the upcoming year's releases.  If Comic Con is the place where we see the "remainder of 2008" lineup/exclusives, I guess that is ok.  It seems like the first half of the year is often when things are slow, as far as news and stuff goes.  If Hasbro wants to "beat the websites to the punch", I think they should consider at least a few product updates and news releases other than the big Fairs.  To be honest, I'm surprised we haven't gotten a concrete lineup and/or pictures leaked of Wave 3 (after to ROTS and Force Unleashed waves) of 2008 by this point.  It seems like we often have seen stuff like this by now.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jayson on December 18, 2007, 10:26 AM
Although I'm always ready for more/new information, I guess I don't mind if we get it in doses throughout the year.  I don't necessarily like having only Toy Fair and Comic Con be the times when we actually get concrete information from Hasbro about the upcoming year's releases. 

I wouldn't mind if Hasbro handled product news like the QnA where one QnA participant a week is given a true exclusive tidbit on new merchandise, rather than denying the existence of a known product or the happenstance of the right site asking the right question on the right cycle.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 18, 2007, 10:51 AM
Although I'm always ready for more/new information, I guess I don't mind if we get it in doses throughout the year.  I don't necessarily like having only Toy Fair and Comic Con be the times when we actually get concrete information from Hasbro about the upcoming year's releases. 

I wouldn't mind if Hasbro handled product news like the QnA where one QnA participant a week is given a true exclusive tidbit on new merchandise, rather than denying the existence of a known product or the happenstance of the right site asking the right question on the right cycle.

This would be much more acceptable.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on December 18, 2007, 10:55 AM
Although I'm always ready for more/new information, I guess I don't mind if we get it in doses throughout the year.  I don't necessarily like having only Toy Fair and Comic Con be the times when we actually get concrete information from Hasbro about the upcoming year's releases. 

I wouldn't mind if Hasbro handled product news like the QnA where one QnA participant a week is given a true exclusive tidbit on new merchandise, rather than denying the existence of a known product or the happenstance of the right site asking the right question on the right cycle.

I like that, Jay! That's a good idea.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: CHEWIE on December 18, 2007, 11:09 AM
I agree with JACK too, as well as what Jaybird said.

Nicklab has an excellent point as well by pointing out that Hasbro holds some responsiblity here.  Their website isn't being used to communicate information adequately.  Fan sites are going to post what information they can find. 

RS should have been a little more careful with the news article in my opinion though, and not made all the news they posted seem so official.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: P-Siddy on December 19, 2007, 03:58 PM
Nicklab has an excellent point as well by pointing out that Hasbro holds some responsiblity here.  Their website isn't being used to communicate information adequately.  Fan sites are going to post what information they can find. 

I agree with that, too, Chewie. If Hasbro wants to be the presenter of new goods, they should put more effort into their site. But that SW site is not very informative I believe most collectors look to their favorite SW collecting sites, like JD, to find their news.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 19, 2007, 04:19 PM
I believe most collectors look to their favorite SW collecting sites, like JD, to find their news.

Damn right!

(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w298/jackoftradze/Jackoftradze%20Star%20Wars%20customs/hayes.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on December 19, 2007, 04:35 PM
Like you mentioned, if they would debut figure waves/etc. on their site, and not act like these toys are national security issues, they wouldn't have nearly the problems with rumor lists and speculation most likely.  Its part of the age we live in now with the internet, but if they kept their site a little more update with news and not just new games or things like that, it would probably help the situation a bit for Hasbro.

I totally agree with this and I have always felt this way with regards to Hasbro releasing information as soon as they possibly can as opposed to waiting for Toy Fair or the Summer Conventions.

First Argument: They don't want fans to be disappointed if something doesn't come out
This makes absolutely no sense to me. Ok, so they said a Yuuzhan Vong figure was coming and they decided to push it back to next year. BIG F***ING DEAL! I mean, we all got to drool over the Force Unleashed figures at Toy Fair in Feb 2007 and what happened to them? They got pushed back to being released in 2008. I saw all of the collectors out there committing suicide or sending death threats to Hasbro over this delay, it was truly a dark day for collecting indeed.  ::)

Second Argument: They don't want other toy companies to know what they are up to, afterall selling toys is a competitive business
Ok, this one is b.s. too. When I was a kid and my mom asked me which I wanted for my birthday, of course I said "Star Wars figures!". I did not care that they had less articulation than GI Joe, I liked Star Wars and that's what I wanted. My mother and I did not jump from Star Wars to GI Joe because Hasbro had out-innovated Kenner with their line of army-based 3.75" figures. There is only ONE maker of 3.75" Star Wars figures. Hasbro has the monopoly on the Star Wars franchise. No one competes with them directly. Kids who are fans of Star Wars are not going to want Ben 10 figures because they "look cooler" - if they think Ben 10 is cooler than Star Wars then you've already lost their purchase, it had NOTHING to do with what innovations Ban Dai put into their P.o.S. toys.

Third Argument: We need to hold information back for Toy Fair
To this, my response is simple.

Why?

With all of the fan forums out there, you couldn't BUY the kind of marketing research we provide them. If Hasbro were to post pictures of the AT-TE today and a list of features of the vehicle. They could scour the boards between now and Toy Fair and everytime they speak with a buyer for a major retail chain, plop the stack of message board comments a mile high and say "all of these fans are EXCITED about this vehicle and 95%+ of them don't seem deterred by the $100 price tag - you can't loose with this piece!" The converse could work to their advantage as well. Propose something like Star Wars Customs/Choppers or whatever those turds were called, see all of the negative feedback on the collector boards and perhaps you might decide to rethink them since it sounds like they might rot at retail (which the DID!), perhaps you pull them and don't even bring the line as a discussion point with the buyers.

I can come up with MANY more examples like this where showing us stuff BEFORE Toy Fair could help them better sell aspects of the line that might otherwise be a tough sell with the buyers for the chains.



Perhaps I'm over simplifying things a bit, but I do not understand why they have to react like they do. How about just coming out and saying "Yeah, we're planning on doing A, B, D, E, F, H, I but items C, G & J have been held back for re-imagining/re-work to see if we can improve on the concept." No harm, no foul, no one boycotts Hasbro, cause afterall, they are the ONLY game in town when it comes to Star Wars 3.75" action figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Daigo-Bah on December 19, 2007, 11:58 PM
Man, I agree completely, Pete Fett!  I think the major problem here is that Hasbro does not acknowledge nor respect the fact that we older collectors make up the majority of SW spending.  I don't care if there is a kid or his mom buying a Vader or a Luke once a month- how about guys like Darth Anton and Chewie (and me, and many more of us!) who get multiples upon multiples of army builders every week?  They won't listen to us when we say SW Choppers is a dumb idea- because they think the kids will want it.  Fine- screw up your sales there over and over until you realize that you have to focus on us collectors to support this industry for the next 10 years and beyond.  (By the way, I think overall 30AC has been great for us with all the pack-ins and McQuarries; it's like Hasbro says one thing and does another)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on December 20, 2007, 10:44 AM
Hasbro can't break the tradition of breaking news at either Toy fair or SDCC. It's an industry standard to do so. So bucking this might be a black mark in the toy industry. That's bunk though to me. They can do the complete official news then, but in the meantime, little tidbits here and there, a pic once in awhile...

As I mentioned before holding onto this news and claiming it's not true only to have the toy in stores less than 6 months later says they were lying.

Gawd, this stuff is SO not secret, nor has anything to do with national security so why NOT let the cat out of the bag, when a collecting site reports the info.

If Hasbro were diligent about reporting news on their OWN site, then there really wouldn't be much need for the Q&A sessions.

Mind you I like reading those from all over the net, but if we could find this same info out on their official site, KNOWING it's official well....   It still wouldn't deter me from coming here or the other sites I go to. It would be an added "stop" to my browsing.

As has been mentioned before, all of these collecting sites provide Hasbro with FREE market research. They may choose to ignore it but that's been to their detriment. Gawd I forgot about those horrid choppers....whomeve thought of those should be fired...heh. Big waste of time and space on shelves. Those were TOO niche.

Now things like ships and vehicle as well as playsets that actually GO with their bread and butter action figure line....that's a different story. If all holds up, 2008 WILL be a banner year for vehicles. Yet playset will once again be trounced.

I did a rough esitmate of my purchases for SW this year. It was $7K. This was 84% Hasbro, 14% Gentle Giant, and  2% other misc SW purchases. I went over by $1K. But that was due to those damn Commander Busts. Next year I'm cutting the SW budget in half. No more repaints of Titaniums; no more rehashes of figures unless they are SIGNIFICANTLY improved-not just one better articulated joint, I mean Complete SA; no more Galactic Heroes; no more ship repaints (execept maybe Aayla Secura's JSF if that rumor is true); no more massive army building-cutting down from an average of 20 troops for a given figure down to 5.

So...fine by me if hasbro want's to hold back info. They are keeping me less and less excited about the future, so I'm budgeting less for their product. I honestly belive that if every collector cut their spending in half, many lines, not just SW, would die fairly quickly. I don't see parents spending close to $7K on a kid for toys. With exception to Christmas toys, I'd doubt even half of that. Yet, I can believe there are many collectors who spend at least $5k on toys (not just SW either).

So Hasbro can play their game. But they've lost a huge chunk of my business. Pony up on the info Hasbro and keep me enthralled! And I want some damn playsets already! I need them for the approx. 4000 figures I have!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on January 5, 2008, 01:23 PM
2008 Wave 3?

I find this hard to believe when there's a Clone Wars line coming out but,

From, http://potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12706

Obi-Wan (in General's armor)
Clone Trooper with quad cannon
Clone SCUBA Trooper
Saesee Tiin in General armor
Padme Ilum
Black IG-88 Speeder-Bike Droid
Mon Calamari Warrior
Quarren Soldier
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Dan on January 5, 2008, 01:41 PM
That's a sweet looking list-  :o
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 5, 2008, 02:51 PM
I find this hard to believe when there's a Clone Wars line coming out but,

Agreed.

Unless they are looking to cover all of the designs from the Cartoon Network series before delving into the designs of the new cartoon.

Can anyone think of any other Clone Wars cartoon designs that you would want to see done once a wave like this came out? I can't think of any right now.

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on January 5, 2008, 02:59 PM
Nelvaan Warrior (mutated and not) (A mutated one would be HUGE!)
Skakoan Techno Union Scientist
San Hill and the other Muuns.
Battle Droid with speeder sub.
Jedi Sha'a Gi
Jedi Daakman Barrek
Jedi K'Kruhk
Jedi Tarr Seirr
Muunilinst Neimoidian
Gooey unarmored Durge
Sidious w/ Hologram Walker
Phase 2 Captain Fordo
Jedi Nem Bees (we don't see him in the cartoon in Jedi attire, but they could still make it with it.)
Kon'me
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 5, 2008, 03:24 PM
OK - point taken. Looks like I need to go back and watch the DVDs.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on January 5, 2008, 03:36 PM
If there's any truth to that, wave 3 will be the best of all next year.  I can see it happening, especially if Hasbro wants to get the first CW show out of the way as they focus on the new one.  Also, there's that mail in promotion sometime this year...
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on January 5, 2008, 06:32 PM
To be honest that is the best wave I have heard of for 2008 in regard to basic figures at least.  The other 2 are ok but I'm interested in every figure listed there.  Yes, I realize it's just a rumor but it looks good to me.   

Of course I would assume Kenobi and Padme Ilum would be all new nice sculpts.  People may be sick of clones but the SCUBA trooper geeks me up a bit :)  Gotta like Saesse in General's armor and an IG droid!
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: ctonra on January 5, 2008, 09:24 PM
I wish this wave is true I want every figure on that list, please be true.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Scott on January 5, 2008, 10:32 PM
I'm not to jazzed about this...especially with the all out blitz next fall will bring, I'd rather have these few Wave spots filled with the Movies and not two back to back non movie waves :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darby on January 5, 2008, 11:53 PM
Also, Ilum Padme would jive with Hasbro's hint that one early '07 battle pack figure would be revisited in this wave.  I'm stoked about this.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Greg on January 6, 2008, 12:36 AM
As happy as I would be if that was the actual Wave Three lineup,(I love the clone Wars)I cannot help but think that this is just a fan wishlist that got reported as a rumor somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 6, 2008, 03:32 AM
I'm not to jazzed about this...especially with the all out blitz next fall will bring, I'd rather have these few Wave spots filled with the Movies and not two back to back non movie waves :-\

I'm with the old man here...  A practical blockade on the line will be inevitable with the cartoon, why mix in a wave early short of a "preview" wave?  PIss on that...  I want movie stuff beforehand.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 6, 2008, 09:18 AM
Hopefully that's clone wars wave 3. I'm not too happy about the prospect of this being a basic figure wave.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Scott on January 6, 2008, 09:36 AM
And don't get me wrong, as a Clone Wars wave its fan-frickin-tastic.  Pretty much knocks out most the remaining holes from the original cartoon...so far I've been a little disappointed with the first 3 waves
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 6, 2008, 09:48 AM
Isn't there supposed to be the regular TAC-style line running concurrently with the Clone Wars line?

I was under the impression that the Clone Wars stuff was going to be completely separate from the Star Wars Saga collection. Just like Saga Legends was separate from TAC in 2007. So there should be some movie-based waves coming out at the same time as the Clone Wars stuff. Perhaps I misread/misinterpreted some of the Q&A answers from a while back...

Hopefully we will see this wave at Toy Fair and perhaps it might even be the first wave featuring the Droid Factory BAF concept.

So I re-watched all of the Clone Wars last night.

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Nelvaan Warrior (mutated and not) (A mutated one would be HUGE!)
Skakoan Techno Union Scientist

The mutated Nelvaan Warriors were huge and unless they made a deluxe figure (which I don't see happening) these aren't ever getting made. Perhaps an unmutated warrior might get made, but I doubt it. The Skakoan Scientists were nothing more than color variations of Wat Tambor, if they were to ever make these guys to go with the Nelvaan Warriors then it would just be a repaint of the Wat Tambor figure.

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San Hill and the other Muuns
Muunilinst Neimoidian

Well, San Hill we already got as part of the Geonosis War Room Screen Scene. Perhaps the figure could LOOK better, but otherwise, there's really no need to do him again. In addition, the other Muuns with San Hill are all dressed relatively the same. Check out this image of them being lead off:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/5/55/Muuns.JPG2.JPG)
Not exactly exciting IMHO. Same thing goes with the Neimodian, basically he looked like Nute Gunray with blue/gray clothes as opposed to Nute's typical Red/Yellow/Orange attire. So again, if they made this figure it would just be a repaint of Nute.

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Gooey unarmored Durge

Ok - this revelation about Durge in the Cartoon was one of the weakest parts. I am thankful that instead of another battle between Durge and Obi-Wan, we got the extended Volume 1 Episode 20 with the Jedi facing off against Grievous. Since we're talking about Animated Clone Wars figures done in the realistic style, I'm afraid that the closest you might get to this is battle damaged Durge w/his helmet removed as seen in issue 3 of the Obsession comic series.

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Jedi Sha'a Gi
Jedi Daakman Barrek
Jedi Tarr Seirr

Ok - so Barrek is only seen in a blurry hologram. Sha'a Gi is the Jedi Padawan that gives into fear and Tarr Seirr is the Cerean Jedi. I guess in terms of adding them to the ranks of the Jedi, having figures of them would be cool. But none of these characters are overly exciting in terms of design.

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Jedi K'Kruhk

I had forgotten that they had made that Whiphid Jedi in Volume 1 Episode 20, K'Kruhk. They even say that the other Jedi are dead yet K'Kruhk has shown up in the Dark Times comic and in the Legacy comic. So now of course, they've modified the details around the Battle of Hypori to indicate that K'Kruhk was THOUGHT to have been dead. Ok, fine. I have no doubt that we will eventually get a K'Kruhk figure. Hopefully though, the figure will be based on a design of him from the Dark Horse Comics - completely with Straw Hat.  ;D

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Jedi Nem Bees (we don't see him in the cartoon in Jedi attire, but they could still make it with it.)
Kon'me

Nem Bees comes from the "What's the Story" feature on StarWars.com. If they were going to give us a Jedi Nem Bees figure, hopefully it will be him in his Jedi Attire. As he appeared in the cartoon is nothing more than a Max Reebo figure. The Kon'me are interesting design, and again were part of the "What's the Story" feature, since they were only ever featured for a split second fighting off Seperatist forces. The design when translated into the movie-style figures might end up looking like a poor-man's Arbiter (from Halo) which would be okay I guess but might cause some problems.

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Battle Droid with speeder sub

This design would definitely be welcome, you need something for Kit Fisto, the Scuba Clones and the Mon Calamari to fight against! The Manta Sub-fighters are also pretty cool, might make for a neat battle-pack at some point. Manta sub-fighter, 2 mini-subs w/battle droids, shirtless Kit Fisto.

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Sidious w/ Hologram Walker

This design borrowed from the appearance in The Phantom Menace. I have no doubt that we will eventually see this figure get made. Personally I would prefer a light-up feature over a wind-up walking feature, but I'd be willing to bet that Hasbro tries the walking feature route.

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Phase 2 Captain Fordo

I'd rather see them give us a better Captain Fordo in the Phase 1 ARC-Trooper armor before going the Phase 2 route, but since they already have a good Phase 1 ARC Trooper figure, it would be cool if they gave us a Captain Fordo figure that could easily switch between Phase 1 and Phase 2 versions. Perferably with a soft-goods kama.

So in the end, I still maintain that if that list is indeed made, the majority of the prominent designs from the series will be covered. Sure there are some stragglers, but those worth making (K'Kruhk and Holo Sidious on Hologram Walker) appeared elsewhere and are likely to be made at some point.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Roton7 on January 6, 2008, 02:43 PM
it would be cool if they gave us a Captain Fordo figure that could easily switch between Phase 1 and Phase 2 versions.


Oh man... that would be a nice figure. ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on January 6, 2008, 04:54 PM
2008 Wave 3?

I find this hard to believe when there's a Clone Wars line coming out but,

From, http://potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12706

Obi-Wan (in General's armor)
Clone Trooper with quad cannon
Clone SCUBA Trooper
Saesee Tiin in General armor
Padme Ilum
Black IG-88 Speeder-Bike Droid
Mon Calamari Warrior
Quarren Soldier

If this is true, I like the lineup.  I've been waiting on this Obi-Wan, Saesee Tiin and the IG Lancer droid for a while.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2008, 12:05 AM
So I re-watched all of the Clone Wars last night...

Nice analysis Pete, most of those names hadn't meant anything to me.

2008 Wave 3?

I find this hard to believe when there's a Clone Wars line coming out but,

From, http://potf2.com/potj/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12706

Obi-Wan (in General's armor)
Clone Trooper with quad cannon
Clone SCUBA Trooper
Saesee Tiin in General armor
Padme Ilum
Black IG-88 Speeder-Bike Droid
Mon Calamari Warrior
Quarren Soldier

Isn't there supposed to be the regular TAC-style line running concurrently with the Clone Wars line?

I was under the impression that the Clone Wars stuff was going to be completely separate from the Star Wars Saga collection. Just like Saga Legends was separate from TAC in 2007. So there should be some movie-based waves coming out at the same time as the Clone Wars stuff. Perhaps I misread/misinterpreted some of the Q&A answers from a while back...

Could Wave 3 of the basic line actually be the first wave of the Clone Wars line already?  I thought the Clone Wars line was replacing the basic figure line, not running alongside it.  But that seems awfully soon to be moving into Clone Wars figures already since the show isn't due until the fall.  (I'd better go read through the Q&A section and try to clarify this...)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 7, 2008, 01:35 AM
And don't get me wrong, as a Clone Wars wave its fan-frickin-tastic.  Pretty much knocks out most the remaining holes from the original cartoon...so far I've been a little disappointed with the first 3 waves

I agree again, they're THE CW figures I've asked for personally.  That's almost what makes me doubt the validity, as it's almost "too good to be true" kind of a thing.  Yet at the same time stuff's been good quite often, so maybe it's going to happen.  I just wish it was part of the CW line so they could give us more movie stuff while the giving's good.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 7, 2008, 09:12 AM
  I just wish it was part of the CW line so they could give us more movie stuff while the giving's good.

Amen. Seems a bit much considering the figures from this wave are more or less going to be the focus of the fall line.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on January 7, 2008, 09:32 AM
Echoing what others have said, the lineup for this wave looks great.  I'm a little surprised that we may be seeing this though, with the big CW push later in the year.  This is basically my wish list for the Clone Wars figures I'd like to see, so it would make for a great wave - but I wouldn't mind seeing a little OT love in these waves before CW takes over.  I know we got a lot of nice OT figures in '07, but I'm greedy :).  If this lineup is true, we've got ROTS, TFU, and CW taking us likely through the spring for basic figures, with the "Clone Wars" line hitting in the fall.  Who knows, maybe the waves will be released quicker than that, but otherwise it might make finding "movie" figures kind of tough for a bit.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jeff on January 7, 2008, 10:20 AM
I was under the impression that the Clone Wars stuff was going to be completely separate from the Star Wars Saga collection. Just like Saga Legends was separate from TAC in 2007. So there should be some movie-based waves coming out at the same time as the Clone Wars stuff. Perhaps I misread/misinterpreted some of the Q&A answers from a while back...

I thought the Clone Wars line was replacing the basic figure line, not running alongside it.  But that seems awfully soon to be moving into Clone Wars figures already since the show isn't due until the fall. 

Clone Wars is replacing the Saga Legends line, not the main Saga basic figure line according to Hasbro (via a JediTempleArchives Q&A answer (http://jeditemplearchives.com/content/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3588)):

Right now, we do not have plans for a full third figure line consisting entirely of greatest hits/legends in the Fall..since this line will basically be replaced by the Clone Wars line.  However, we are planning on doing some select "greatest hits" in the main (Saga) line....

So, yeah - like Pete said you should still see movie stuff on the shelves next to the CW stuff.  I think they even confirmed a new RotJ wave for Fall 2008 (via the Yak Q&A), so it's not like the movie stuff dies after the cartoon comes out.  Cut back maybe, but not gone...


As for Wave 3 rumor, I'm not getting my hopes up.  Many figures on that list could be repacks, repaints, or kit-bashes, so I'm not getting too excited until we hear/see more...  it sure will suck when it's revealed that the Armor Obi-Wan and Ilum Padme are just carded releases of the old BP figures.   :-X
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 7, 2008, 02:28 PM
If this rumor is true then I'll be stoked for some of them.

I'll get:
X1 Obi-Wan (in General's armor)
X2 Clone Trooper with quad cannon
X5 Clone SCUBA Trooper
X2 Saesee Tiin in General armor
X1 maybe Padme Ilum (Has to be a total new fig for me to buy again)
X4 Black IG-88 Speeder-Bike Droid
X5 Mon Calamari Warrior
X5 Quarren Soldier

I'm trying real hard to stick to squad numbers (5) instead of going crazy with army building.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 7, 2008, 07:00 PM
So, yeah - like Pete said you should still see movie stuff on the shelves next to the CW stuff. 

Thanks for the clarification Jeff, that's exactly what I needed to know.

As for Wave 3 rumor, I'm not getting my hopes up.  Many figures on that list could be repacks, repaints, or kit-bashes, so I'm not getting too excited until we hear/see more...  it sure will suck when it's revealed that the Armor Obi-Wan and Ilum Padme are just carded releases of the old BP figures.   :-X

Ideally, I hope you're wrong, but realistically you're probably right.  If they're willing to repack figures in the basic figure line, then they're likely willing to do the same in the CW line.  But even so, surely they realize how sucktastic that Ilum Padme was?  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jayson on January 7, 2008, 07:10 PM
realize how sucktastic that Ilum Padme was?  :-\

hmmm.... sucktastic Padme  :)
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 7, 2008, 07:25 PM
But even so, surely they realize how sucktastic that Ilum Padme was?  :-\

I dunno - as far as Padme figures go, it is hardly the worst one ever made - the first AOTC Padme with the quick-draw action was far worse IMHO.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: evenflow on January 7, 2008, 07:28 PM
realize how sucktastic that Ilum Padme was?  :-\

hmmm.... sucktastic Padme  :)

 :D
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Diddly on January 7, 2008, 10:10 PM
But even so, surely they realize how sucktastic that Ilum Padme was?  :-\

Didn't they say in one of the Q&A's that they thought it was "pretty darn good for a preposed figure"?  :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 7, 2008, 11:12 PM
Something along those lines...

I've found from the Q&A's I've read that, any time you ask them a question and slip in, "I think that could've been done better", they usually seem to imply they feel whatever it is was quite nice in the first place...  Snowbunny Padme fit in with the current line about as well as screaming Mace Windu fits in with the current line...  ;)

Pointless to argue of course, but she was a less than stellar figure.  I guess as pre-posed figures go, she's ok though...  Maybe they had a point?  To each their own I guess.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Rune Haako on January 11, 2008, 05:23 PM
From, http://www.theprivateuniverse.co.uk/cgi-bin/showarticle.pl?section=news&articleid=2464

The latest Paugus Toy Company news letter is packed full of goodies coming to UK collectors this year. Not just Star Wars but Indianna Jones, Marvel and Transformers. Read on for some scoop news and shed loads of stuff to save up for... including that new Millenium Falcon!

SW 3 ¾” FIGURE ASSORTMENT WAVE 8.5 - February 2008
30TH Line look with figure stand
Obi-Wan on Lava Platform
Darth Vader on Lava Platform
Lava Miner Droid and Platform
Commander Gree
Kashyyk Trooper
Tri Droid
2-1B Medical Droid
Separatist Po Nudo

SW 3 ¾” FIGURE ASSORTMENT WAVE 9 - March 2008
Force Unleashed Darth Vader
Force Unleashed Rahm Kota
Force Unleashed Maris Brood
Force Unleashed Stormtrooper #1
Force Unleashed Juno Eclipse
Force Unleashed Heavy Stormtrooper
Force Unleashed Shadow Guard

SW 3 ¾” FIGURE ASSORTMENT WAVE 10 - April 2008
Obi-Wan with Generals Armour
Clone Trooper with Quad Cannon
Clone Scuba Trooper
Saesee Tiin with General Armour
Padme Ilum
Black IG-88 Speeder Bike Droid
Mon Calamari Warrior
Quarren Soldier

SW UNLEASHED 2” BATTLE PACKS WAVE 6 - February 2008
HERO PACK: TFU Main Hero, Smaurai Jedi, Maris Brood, Juno Eclipse
VILLAIN PACK: TFU Vader, Emperor, shadow Guard (x2)
TROOP PACK: TFU Gas Mask Trooper, Heavy Trooper, 2 Redeco Troops

SW UNLEASHED 2” BATTLE PACKS WAVE 7 - April 2008
SW UNLEASHED 2” BATTLE PACKS WAVE - June 2008

SW 3 ¾” SAGA LEGENDS ASSORTMENT
Wave 1 ’08 Fans Choice - March 2008

SW 3 ¾” BATTLE PACKS WAVE 4
Wave 4 - January 2008

SW 3 ¾” BATTLE PACKS WAVE 5
Wave 5 - TBC

STAR WARS ACTION FIGURES Star Wars Galactic Heroes 2 Packs Wave 1 ‘08 - January 2008
Dagobah Luke & Yoda
Weequay & Barada
Grand Moff Tarkin & Imperial Officer
Leia & Poncho & Endor Rebel Commander

Wave 2 ‘08 - March 2008

STAR WARD GALACTIC HEROES CINEMA SCENES RATIO - TBC

STAR WARS 3.75” BUILD-A-DROID FIGURES Waves TBC - Spring/Autumn
CLONE WARS 3.75” BASIC FIGURES Waves TBC - Spring/Autumn

SW 3 ¾” COMIC PACKS WAVE 2 - March 2008
Expanded Universe Anakin and Assassin Droid
Expanded Universe Baron Fel and Derek Kilvian
Expanded Universe LT Jundlund and L T Shan
Expanded Universe Stormtrooper Disguise Mouse and Basso
Expanded Universe Rep Commander and Super Battle Droid

SW 3 ¾” COMIC PACKS WAVE 3 - June 2008
SW 3 ¾” COMIC PACKS WAVE 4
SW 3 ¾” EVOLUTION PACKS WAVE 0.5 - January 2008
Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader
The Sith
Clone Trooper to Storm Trooper
SW 3 ¾” EVOLUTION PACKS WAVE 1 - March 2008
The Jedi Legacy 3 pk
The Sith Legacy 3pk
The Fett Legacy 3pk
Evolutions Forced Unleashed 3pk
SW 3 ¾” EVOLUTION PACKS WAVE 2 - TBA - June 2008
EXCLUSIVE EXPANDED UNIVERSE COMIC PACK - Autumn/Winter
Waves TBC

EXCLUSIVE EXPANDED UNIVERSE PACK WAVE - May/June
Waves TBC

SW 3 ¾” VEHICLE ASSORTMENT WAVE 8 - April 2008
General Grievous Starfighter Vehicle
AT-PT Republic Walker Vehicle
Anakin’s Green Ep II Starfighter
Obi-Wans Blue Ep II Starfighter

STAR WARS MILENNIUM FALCON £149.99 - Autumn TBC
STAR WARS CLONE WARS AT-TE VEHICLE - Spring Autumn
STAR WARS 3.75” A-WING GREEN LEADER WITH ARVEL CRYNYD - Autumn / Winter

TITANIUM STAR WARS 3” VEHICLES WAVE 5
Tatooine Skiff - March 2008
AT-OT
Ep2 Jedi Star Fighter with Warp Ring
Millenium Falcon (2005)
Camo Scout on Speeder Bike
WAVE 6 - June 2008
WAVE 7 - October 2008
WAVE 8 - November 2008

STAR WARS MIGHTY MUGGS WAVE 1 - January 2008
Darth Vader
Chewbacca
Boba Fett
Darth Maul
Luke Skywalker
C3-PO

WAVE 2 - July 2008
Stormtrooper
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Commander Cody
Jango Fett
Count Dooku
Rex

STARS WARS FORCE ACTION LIGHTSABER - January 2008
STAR WARS FORCE UNLEASHED DELUXE L’SABER - January 2008
STAR WARS BASIC LIGHTSABER - TBC
CLONE WARS ELECTRONIC BLASTER - TBC
CLONE WARS BASIC LIGHTSABER - TBC
CLONE WARS CLONE TROOPER HELMET ASST - April 2008
CLONE WARS ULTIMATE LIGHTSABER - March 2008
CLONE WARS ELECTRONIC LIGHTSABER ASST - April 2008
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 12, 2008, 09:11 AM
I sure hop that A-Wing re-release utilizes the Tyco body. Bummer about Basic wave 3 though.  :(
Title: Wal-Mart UPCs & Evolution Pilots Rumours
Post by: Rune Haako on January 12, 2008, 01:37 PM
From Rebelscum.com's Forums

Evolutions

65356930048 SW REBELLION PILOTS LGC
65356931537 SW REBELLION PILOTS 2
65356931536 SW IMPERIAL PILOTS L
65356930047 SW PADME AMIDALA LGC

Vehicles

65356931175 SW FED SPIDER DROID
65356931176 SW V-19 CLONE SHUTTLE
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth Broem on January 12, 2008, 01:55 PM
Well I am actually looking forward to wave 3 the most.  But yes, hopefully some OT basic figures will come out soon afterward?  At least some nice figures from Indiana Jones are coming out pretty soon.  Although none from Temple of Doom? 
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Nicklab on January 12, 2008, 06:04 PM
That definitely lends some creedence to the earlier reports we saw of these Evolutions sets.  And there had been mention of the V-19 previously as well.  The Spider Droid invariably has to be the Homing Spider Droid, if it's indeed part of a vehicle assortment.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 12, 2008, 07:52 PM
Ooh, Rebellion pilots!  Can't wait to see what that is!  Maybe a ANH Wedge, ESB Snowspeeder Dack, and a B-Wing pilot?
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: ctonra on January 12, 2008, 08:04 PM
I wonder seeing as rebel pilots are listed twice with two different UPCs, Could it be a running change like there was with clone/stormtrooper set during ROTS.  Maybe head swaps??  could explain so many pilots listed on all the rumor lists.  just a thought.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Darth Broem on January 12, 2008, 08:27 PM
I am hoping that a Luke Snowspeeder and Wedge (Xwing or snowspeeder) are in the mix.  It would be nice to get a Naboo Pilot with long coat and a red-suited B-Wing pilot from the vintage days.  We'll see.  It should be interesting.   
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 12, 2008, 09:07 PM
From Rebelscum.com's Forums

Evolutions

65356930048 SW REBELLION PILOTS LGC
65356931537 SW REBELLION PILOTS 2
65356931536 SW IMPERIAL PILOTS L
65356930047 SW PADME AMIDALA LGC

Vehicles

65356931175 SW FED SPIDER DROID
65356931176 SW V-19 CLONE SHUTTLE


This is good news. I'm not as excited about the EVO sets as I am the vehicles, especially the Spider Droid.

Wow, the AT-TE AND Spider Droid in one year! I may faint!

Well it IS the right year for it what with the cartoon and all.

-Sal
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Matt R. on January 12, 2008, 09:19 PM
I hope this true because of REBELLION PILOTS !!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D Yes, I definely excited because not just one set but 2 sets and an Imperial Pilot set. Cross your fingers boys for these. 
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: JangoTat on January 12, 2008, 09:46 PM
Hasbro did say a new wedge figure was coming out this year, im not sure but they also said something about not being on basic cardback  ::)
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Artoo on January 13, 2008, 02:02 AM
Imperial & Rebel pilots!  :o
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 13, 2008, 07:14 AM
I'm really shocked at this news. Two sets of Rebel Pilots?!

Wow, hopefully these are going to be great.

I have no doubt that the Tycho body will be used to some degree here.

Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 13, 2008, 09:44 AM
Might want to change the heading of this topic, one might think that this topic serves the same purpose as the Target DCPI thread.

As for the rumors, I'm down with everything, especially the Evo sets.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Darby on January 13, 2008, 12:32 PM
I wonder if the two Rebel sets will be like the Clone/Sandtrooper running change before.  That would be a great and easy way for Hasbro to deliver a lot of pilots to us.  Wedge will definitely be one of these.  I bet he's going to be a snowspeeder pilot, because they will want to anchor one of these sets with a core character, and the only that makes sense is Snowspeeder Luke.  And since Wedge always gets the shaft, he will be in the second set, a new head on the 'new' Snowspeeder Luke body.   :)

My predictions on the Rebels:
Set 1
Y-Wing Pilot
Snowspeeder Luke
Some type EU pilot

Set 2
B-Wing Pilot
Snowspeeder Wedge
Some type EU pilot

But the best thing is the Padme set.  They said once they weren't going to do something like that.  Glad they changed their minds, and hope they just go all out with it.

Hoping the Padme set looks something like this:
TPM - Pre-Senate Gown
AOTC - Gold Crown Naboo Dress
ROTS - Peacock Dress
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: JesseVader08 on January 13, 2008, 07:20 PM
I wonder seeing as rebel pilots are listed twice with two different UPCs, Could it be a running change like there was with clone/stormtrooper set during ROTS.  Maybe head swaps??  could explain so many pilots listed on all the rumor lists.  just a thought.

That would be perfect for me.  ANH, ESB, ROTJ; 2 of each. 
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs & Evolution Pilots Rumours
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2008, 12:53 AM
Interesting for sure...  I'm very hopeful the Spider Droid is to-scale because, well, to me they're sort of integral bits to a Separatist army, and there's just something about the big Sep items that makes them so cool...  I'd love to own one of those.

The V-19's THE Clone Wars vehicle I've wished for...  I'm wondering though, is there a shuttle variant in the new toon that warrants the name change?  Or is that just a miscommunication, and it's the fighter?  I'm hopeful for the fighter...  It's such a neat design, I'd hate to see it overlooked.

The Evolutions stuff is cool...  Maybe they're remembering the popularity of the Reb. Pilot Cinema Scene with these?  I could see them dipping into the prequals for "Rebel Pilot Precursors" too though and not making them solid OT pilots.  We need some good new OT pilots though between the Snowspeeder guys, the B-Wingers, a new great X-Winger, the grey Y-Wingers from ROTJ...  There's pilots yet to be made decently by Hasbro, that's for certain.  Add in possible EU characters and it really gets out there.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2008, 01:04 AM
I was looking forward to Wave 3 being OT, but I guess not according to this list...  Either way, it's a dream Clone Wars list, and like Jeff pointed out, the basic line's going alongside Clone Wars, so I'm down for that wave of dream CW figures.

Though...  I must say, it makes me wonder if the Clone Wars line is taking a bit of a turn somewhat from the basic line...  Maybe the sculpting style, or something.  I really hope not, as I prefer realistic looks and the articulation/details, but I've got this sinking feeling it isn't going to fit in for some reason.  :-\
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs & Evolution Pilots Rumours
Post by: Nicklab on January 14, 2008, 02:00 AM
The V-19's THE Clone Wars vehicle I've wished for...  I'm wondering though, is there a shuttle variant in the new toon that warrants the name change?  Or is that just a miscommunication, and it's the fighter?  I'm hopeful for the fighter...  It's such a neat design, I'd hate to see it overlooked.

I think you might be overthinking the situation.  I can't say that I expect a whole lot of valuable or completely accurate info to be in the WalMart computer system.  They're probably only calling it a shuttle because the wing configuration is *somewhat* similar to the Imperial Shuttle.  The V-19 is almost certainly the fighter, and it's a Clone Wars vehicle.  We saw it in the original animated series and it's in the Clone Wars sneak peek on the official site.

The only shuttle-like vehicle that I've seen near Clone Wars is that B-Wing-like ship that Anakin flies in the trailer.  And that looks like it would be bigger than something that might fit in the assault vehicles line.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs & Evolution Pilots Rumours
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2008, 02:57 AM
I don't really consider it "overthinking" a situation, just some fun speculation based on the info at hand...  What are the odds the person that entered the information into the WM system was aware of a tri-wing shuttle design enough to confuse it with a V-19 fighter afterall?  Probably non-existant really.  I think a miscommunication is likely the error, and I agree with you Nick that it's very likely the fighter because it is pictured pretty clear in the sneak peak, plus the Lego version bodes well for a Hasbro one I'd think...  Lots of positives for a fighter over the item description being "accurate". 

I'm just hopeful for one scenario panning out over the other (albeit less likely) one...  It's always fun to speculate regardless, given the nature of "news" leading up to Toy Fair.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Muftak on January 14, 2008, 08:09 AM
Though...  I must say, it makes me wonder if the Clone Wars line is taking a bit of a turn somewhat from the basic line...  Maybe the sculpting style, or something.  I really hope not, as I prefer realistic looks and the articulation/details, but I've got this sinking feeling it isn't going to fit in for some reason.  :-\

My guess on why a Clone Wars wave like this just before the Clone Wars line starts would be that Hasbro realized they need to do these "old" cartoon figures before they get bogged down in "new" Clone Wars figures. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a figure from the original cartoons again.

I don't expect we will see animated style figures at all, though.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: ctonra on January 14, 2008, 08:29 AM
I kind had that same feeling about the clone wars line, I am hoping not cause that would mean all the rumored Ships would be be in that new style too. and that would suck to finally get a AT-TE and it would be cartoony.   
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 14, 2008, 09:08 AM
I'm fairly confident that if Hasbro decided to do CW figures in a cartoony style, that the figures would get their own sub-line, so I think we can rule out any possibility of cartoon-sculpted figures for wave 3.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs.
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 14, 2008, 09:10 AM
I wonder seeing as rebel pilots are listed twice with two different UPCs, Could it be a running change like there was with clone/stormtrooper set during ROTS.  Maybe head swaps??  could explain so many pilots listed on all the rumor lists.  just a thought.

That would be perfect for me.  ANH, ESB, ROTJ; 2 of each. 

That's my best hope as well. It's easy for Hasbro to do and as long as the bodies are good, I won't mind one bit.
Title: Re: Wal-Mart UPCs & Evolution Pilots Rumours
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2008, 10:00 AM
These rumors do sound pretty good, and I'm definitely looking forward to the Evolution sets.  I hope they have what everyone is listing in this thread, some nice SA rebel pilots (with a Wedge and Snowspeeder Luke being the ones I'd definitely like to see).  The Padme set is a welcome surprise as well, seeing as they sounded like it wouldn't happen at one point.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: ctonra on January 15, 2008, 01:32 PM
Anton
        I was think more alone the lines of the Clone Wars Line that is due this Fall.   That will be running as a seperate line.    I think Wave 3 will be in the realislic appeal.   I am hoping I am wrong about the fall line, but then again that would just mean it will be easier to pass on.  Saving a few$$
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 16, 2008, 12:40 PM
Ooh I'd be pissed if the AT-TE was the cartoon style and not the realistic style. It would just be like Hasbro to go that route too as the cartoon style would have less detail....grr.

When the hell is ToyFare!!!?!!!

I need to see this thing to quell my bursting curiosity.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 16, 2008, 03:30 PM
I am 99.9% sure Hasbro already confirmed that all 3.75 including the new CW TV show will be realistic interpretations due to  build on the 3.75 platform. They said they did not want to revisit cartoon style for a long time. All of this will be realistic sculpts, I place my life on it as I am that sure.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: evenflow on January 16, 2008, 03:34 PM
I rememeber that as well. I dont think they are going to be animated style. Dont get me wrong, i enjoy the look, but dont think many people felt the same way and Hasbro seems to know that.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Brian on January 16, 2008, 03:43 PM
As others have already said, I'm pretty sure its been said that the CW line will be "realistic style", but I guess we'll see here in a month or so at Toy Fair.  Also, I thought in one of the Q and A's it was mentioned that a figure got delayed from TAC (2008) Wave 1 to the Clone Wars line, and I don't think it would "fit in" with the CW line if it was in the realistic style (as the rest of Wave 1 is).  I kind of liked the toon figures the last time around, just as a small sub-collection, but since its pretty likely the next CW line will be longer-lived, I'd like to see them in the movie style as well.  If they want to do a toon-type line, make it a different line (and limited) like the last time.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JangoTat on January 16, 2008, 04:21 PM
according to the front page of snowtroopers.ca it looks like the BAF will be seperate from the basic line and be at a higher price  :-X $12.99 CDN i dont know how much that would be in the states though.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 17, 2008, 09:03 AM
according to the front page of snowtroopers.ca it looks like the BAF will be seperate from the basic line

I can't see that, that's just too many lines; Basic, SL, BAF and CW. No more than two lines running concurrently.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JangoTat on January 17, 2008, 04:22 PM
according to the front page of snowtroopers.ca it looks like the BAF will be seperate from the basic line

I can't see that, that's just too many lines; Basic, SL, BAF and CW. No more than two lines running concurrently.

well this is hasbro we are talking about.

only thing im scared of is that if BAF is part of the basic fig assortment and their listed at 12.99 it might mean that CDN has had a $3 increase in figures. if thats the case i dont think i have any other choice but to quit collectioning again :(
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 19, 2008, 08:22 AM
Well, Saga Legends will be ending when Clone Wars starts.

So first half of the year: TAC & Saga Legends

Second half of the year: Clone Wars & The Saga Collection 3

Where in the second half of the year, the Saga Collection will be the secondary line, the waves will still be themed, but we won't get waves like Wave 5 & 7 where all of the figures will be new, we'll get waves where like 1 or 2 figures are new, 1 or 2 figures are kit-bashed and then 1 or 2 figures are complete repaints/repacks.

That is the impression that Hasbro has given us via Q&A answers.

So if the Droid Factory line is separate that would make three lines at once. I'm pretty sure Hasbro has stated that there will not be more than two lines running at any one time either.

So my guess is that what I'm calling The Saga Collection 3 will also be The Droid Factory Collection
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 19, 2008, 09:08 AM
Thanks for putting that together Pete, that makes sense.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: JangoTat on January 19, 2008, 12:45 PM
well according to some pictures i saw over at RS. the new obi and ani figures both have ball jointed hips and the lava plat form is tiny. not even big enough to hold the told figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Artoo on January 19, 2008, 10:03 PM
WTF? That's retarded.

When is Toyfare?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 19, 2008, 10:44 PM
well according to some pictures i saw over at RS. the new obi and ani figures both have ball jointed hips and the lava plat form is tiny. not even big enough to hold the told figures.

Ya know, I know they said that they decided to make the lava droid it's own figure, but the base being too small for Obi/Ani is ridiculous. They could have EASILY made it two halves that connect. Include a half with each fig and bam full base. So we don't get the actual lava drdoi, fine. That can be a pack-in for a battle pack at some later date.

I for one wouldn't mind seeing a Mustafar battle pack. Have the new seperatist leader never made, mixed in with some of the old, or the old characters in new outfits. Throw in the lava droid as an accessory. Heck make this an ULTRA set and they would have a place and reason to make the "flea" and rider.

How hard could this all have been, really?
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Nicklab on January 20, 2008, 10:41 AM
When is Toyfare?

Toyfare magazine appears on newsstands every month.

Now if you're talking about the NY International Toy Fair, that happens in mid February.
Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: Pete_Fett on January 22, 2008, 07:50 PM
To be precise Toy Fair 2008 is February 17 - 20, 2008 and the Jacob Javits Center and in surrounding showroom locations.

Here's the website for it:
http://www.toyassociation.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Toy_Fair&Template=/TaggedPage/TaggedPageDisplay.cfm&TPLID=193&ContentID=3538

Title: Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
Post by: evenflow on January 22, 2008, 08:24 PM
I am going to make my yearly attempt to get into the Hasbro showroom. Sadly it fails every year.  :-[ I am guessing an Indiana Jones exclusive.