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Title: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on July 27, 2007, 03:37 PM
:o

08 Wave 1 (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1185566297,28528,)

- Po Nudo, 2-1B, Octuparra Droid, brand new Kashyyyk Trooper, Commander Gree (NEW!) more figs in wave.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 27, 2007, 04:15 PM
Oh boy, I bet that repainted VTSC scout trooper is going to look pretty bad next to the all new sculpt Kashyyyk Elite.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on July 27, 2007, 04:30 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SDCC07/Hasbropanel/IMG_3199.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2007, 04:32 PM
Loving all of these!

Now I'm glad I didn't over build my Kashyyyk army...

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on July 27, 2007, 04:32 PM
Me too, I only bought one.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 04:39 PM
Loving all of these!

Now I'm glad I didn't over build my Kashyyyk army...

 :P

Now you can use them as your Imperial Elite Endor Troops  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 04:40 PM
Yeah, its kind of surprising that we're getting re-dos of the Kashyyyk Troops and Gree so soon after their original releases - not that I'm complaining.  I'm glad I didn't go to nuts with the repainted version (picked up four), definitely looking forward to the new one.  The 2-1B looks nice too.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on July 27, 2007, 04:45 PM
Pic from SSG including Gree:

(http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/data/5416/SCC_3357_resize.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Ryan on July 27, 2007, 05:20 PM
I wonder why they are still calling it 30th Anniversary? Odd. This is a pretty good looking wave, I'm digging the accurate resculpts of Gree and the 41st clone. It is looking to be another expensive year next year...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Diddly on July 27, 2007, 05:25 PM
I'm not interested in a single one of those figures but they look way too good to pass up. I like what we've seen so far.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 27, 2007, 05:44 PM
I really don't get Hasbro though.  I love the look of the new Gree and Elite Kashyyyk clone.  But seriously, they just came out recently.  Why couldn't Hasbro do it right the first time?  It doesn't make any sense.  They were making accurately sculpted 14 point-articulated figures a year ago when they did the Elite clone, and during EIII when Gree came out.  Why didn't they just do it right the first time?  Very annoying.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 05:54 PM
I really don't get Hasbro though.  I love the look of the new Gree and Elite Kashyyyk clone.  But seriously, they just came out recently.  Why couldn't Hasbro do it right the first time?  It doesn't make any sense.  They were making accurately sculpted 14 point-articulated figures a year ago when they did the Elite clone, and during EIII when Gree came out.  Why didn't they just do it right the first time?  Very annoying.

Because they made money on them the first time, even though inaccurate, now they'll make even more money, with accurate sculpts, from geeks like us hunting them down all over again.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Artoo on July 27, 2007, 05:56 PM
Wow. A new Gree & Kashyyyk Trooper! 
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 27, 2007, 06:42 PM
I really don't get Hasbro though.  I love the look of the new Gree and Elite Kashyyyk clone.  But seriously, they just came out recently.  Why couldn't Hasbro do it right the first time?  It doesn't make any sense.  They were making accurately sculpted 14 point-articulated figures a year ago when they did the Elite clone, and during EIII when Gree came out.  Why didn't they just do it right the first time?  Very annoying.

Because they made money on them the first time, even though inaccurate, now they'll make even more money, with accurate sculpts, from geeks like us hunting them down all over again.

Maybe.  But they have the license through 2018.  There are tons of characters who haven't been made yet.  There's no shortage of ideas or material.  They could have just as easily done Gree and the Elite Clone correctly in '05 and '06 and then in 2008 Wave 1 done, oh I dunno, pick any 2 names...Yarna and Roth Del Masona for example.

I just think there are some creators of these figures at Hasbro that suck.  I can support this theory by looking at the likenesses of main characters like Mace Windu, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia etc.  Look at their faces.  Hasbro rarely gets that right.  Those characters very often don't even resemble their actor/actress.  I think the same goes for Gree and the Elite clone.  They could have gotten those figures right.  But I think they just suck sometimes.

Look at the Galactic Marine.  Airborne Trooper.   Slam dunks. They nailed those on the first try.  Somebody good at what he/she does created those.

If your theory is to be believed, we would have gotten crappier version of those figures so Hasbro could "make more money" when we buy the corrected version.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on July 27, 2007, 06:53 PM
Wow. A new Gree & Kashyyyk Trooper!  ::)

Agreed. Its only the first wave though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Artoo on July 27, 2007, 06:58 PM
I didn't mean the  ::). I'm excited about those, plus I never picked up a TSC Trooper. So I lucked out.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on July 27, 2007, 07:54 PM
I really don't get Hasbro though.  I love the look of the new Gree and Elite Kashyyyk clone.  But seriously, they just came out recently.  Why couldn't Hasbro do it right the first time?  It doesn't make any sense.  They were making accurately sculpted 14 point-articulated figures a year ago when they did the Elite clone, and during EIII when Gree came out.  Why didn't they just do it right the first time?  Very annoying.

Because they made money on them the first time, even though inaccurate, now they'll make even more money, with accurate sculpts, from geeks like us hunting them down all over again.

Maybe.  But they have the license through 2018.  There are tons of characters who haven't been made yet.  There's no shortage of ideas or material.  They could have just as easily done Gree and the Elite Clone correctly in '05 and '06 and then in 2008 Wave 1 done, oh I dunno, pick any 2 names...Yarna and Roth Del Masona for example.

I just think there are some creators of these figures at Hasbro that suck.  I can support this theory by looking at the likenesses of main characters like Mace Windu, Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia etc.  Look at their faces.  Hasbro rarely gets that right.  Those characters very often don't even resemble their actor/actress.  I think the same goes for Gree and the Elite clone.  They could have gotten those figures right.  But I think they just suck sometimes.

Look at the Galactic Marine.  Airborne Trooper.   Slam dunks. They nailed those on the first try.  Somebody good at what he/she does created those.

If your theory is to be believed, we would have gotten crappier version of those figures so Hasbro could "make more money" when we buy the corrected version.

I agree with you Dressel so don't get me wrong or anything.  A lot of the stuff seems either laziness or just putting some money into one thing like a scout trooper/#41 clone repainted in camo and calling them troopers that they're not or don't resemble while putting more money into developing something that totally kicks A$$ like Hermie.  While Hasbro got the sculpt right on the Airborne & Marine I think they're just making the money by all the repaints on these 2 instead of just doing resculpts.  While Yarna there would sell I'm sure you're probably not going to buy multiples of here like you would a clone.  If you look at it you could give Endor Han removable arms and give him Bespin arms/Jacket and plain shirt arms and you could have your fill of Han from 2 different movies in 1 fig.  But they gotta keep us interested and buying till 2018 so they just keep changing it around. 
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on July 27, 2007, 08:30 PM
as much as i am excited for this wave...im still Pissed off at hasbro for screwing up on this years collection. 7 months in and still no wave 3 to be found at all!! this is ridiculous. how do they expect to release all of the rest of this years TAC? now we will be seeing tac until next year cutting into next years figures. heck at this rate i will be lucky to see wave 4.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on July 27, 2007, 09:22 PM
as much as i am excited for this wave...im still Pissed off at hasbro for screwing up on this years collection. 7 months in and still no wave 3 to be found at all!! this is ridiculous. how do they expect to release all of the rest of this years TAC? now we will be seeing tac until next year cutting into next years figures. heck at this rate i will be lucky to see wave 4.

They explained what the holdup was about at Celebration 4.  Their initial vendors on the coins seriously dropped the ball.  So much so that they had to find a new manufacturer for the coins AND implement the coin redemption program.  Their desire to do that signifies to me that they're trying to do right by us rather than ship shoddy product.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rob on July 27, 2007, 09:40 PM
Yay for the idea of passing up on that last rendition of the Elite Clone.

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 27, 2007, 11:40 PM
Well I for one did build up the first Elite clone. But I'll build this one up to.

I can just have the fighting in seperate areas, or have the inaccurate ones in the background partially hidden by foliage in a diorama.

I'm down for this whole wave.

I am really surprised that Hasbro would revisit the Kashyyyk clone so soon though. Well that's good fr me though as I planned on ending my army building by 2008. But for this fig, I'll make an exception. (There are only a rare few that I'll make that exception to.)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2007, 03:36 AM
I like the character selection in this wave.  An alien Senator/Seperatist, 2 droids and 2 Clones!  Who wouldn't be happy with a lineup like that?

Initial reactions? 
-I've been hoping for the 2-1B ever since he showed up in ROTS.  Well done!  And I think a slightly less shiny repaint would be a nice offering for TESB fans.
-Po Nudo - Looks good enough for a Senator/Seperatist.  Hopefully he doesn't pegwarm.
-Octuptarra Droid - YES!  Finally something for all of my Galactic Marines to fight!  I just hope it isn't undersized to get it in a Basic Figure package
-Kashyyyk Trooper - Cool.  Glad that Hasbro is revisiting this sooner than expected.  I bought a few of the first version, but these will look much better.
-Commander Gree - Nice to see that they're probably using the Evolutions Clone as the basis for this one.  The leg holster/pouch is a nice touch.  And the helmet looks way better!  I also hope they have the backpack.

But I also get the feeling that we haven't seen everything in this wave.  They've only shown 5 figures and none of them are core characters.  And 5 figures is also a pretty small wave.  We only have 1 wave of 5 in the entire 2007 lineup.  Plus, almost every wave we get has some sort of core character slotted in the lineup.  Certainly that's the case with the 2007 line.  I'm thinking that maybe we'll get a Darth Sidious in this lineup, but that's just a prediction.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on July 28, 2007, 08:52 AM
Nice wave, really. Glad to finally get Po and Imp 2-1B.

As for complaints about bad face sculpts (and I'm one for that, too), just a devil's advocate: As an artist, it's easy to sculpt helmeted characters than a likeness of someone. At least it's been that way for me.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on July 28, 2007, 10:11 AM
Quote
-Octuptarra Droid - YES!  Finally something for all of my Galactic Marines to fight!  I just hope it isn't undersized to get it in a Basic Figure package

You're thinking of the Tri-Droid, the Octuptarra Droid is a smaller version of it, the Octuptarra Droid is seen on Utapau in ROTS.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on July 28, 2007, 10:51 AM
Really?  I could've sworn it was the same droid.  Go figure. ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Scott on July 28, 2007, 12:49 PM
I'm hoping there are at least 2-3 more figures in this wave and I'm really hoping those three are Buns Padme, SA Senate Duel Emperor and Queen Organa
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on July 28, 2007, 12:51 PM
I'm hopeing for a new Grievous, but we probably won't get one until The Clone Wars line.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Reid on July 29, 2007, 02:10 PM
Imperial 2-1B is awesome... I like Po Nudo too. More comments later.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JediJman on July 29, 2007, 09:13 PM
I'm so-so on this wave.  Waiting for it to grow on me.  I really like the new 2-1B, the rest I could take or leave.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 30, 2007, 10:11 AM
I knew we'd get a proper Kashyyyk trooper and properly painted Gree eventualy. I just didn't think I'd be so soon. Nice though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on July 30, 2007, 10:15 AM
im just happy this is wave one. 3 good looking army builders 1 droid and 1 random alien. if the trooper is as easy to find as the marine was then i will have a good (if its the same as this year) 5 months to army build him,but watch hasbro but the droid and alien at 2-3 per box (if this is the full wave) and short pack the AB. ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on July 30, 2007, 01:00 PM
The more i look at this wave the less i like it. It just doesnt have anything too exciting in it. I was overly happy with 2007, i hope 2008 does not take a huge step down. I am not expecting a lot of huge pack-ins like this year but i hope we continue to get some.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on July 31, 2007, 12:10 AM
I just got back from vacation so Im just now starting to look at Hasbro's Friday presentation--and WOW. Its really great to finally see Po Nudo, and BTW hes great 'PT' Aqualish custom fodder!. And the octuptarra droid will look fabulous on my Mygeeto bridge dio, even though hes not a tri droid, he'll work for now. And I'm really liking that accurate Gree, the first one was terrible. The 41st clone, eh, I am in the tiny, tiny minority that really didnt mind the first one. However, I only bought one and put it on a speeder bike, so these are a welcome addition to my clone army. 2-1B is cool but in my opinion the least exciting of the wave. I'll still pick one up, though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on July 31, 2007, 02:13 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2007/Hasbro/Friday_Presentation/Slide62.JPG)

Not sure where to begin except that '08 looks like a whole lot of '07 carrying over in terms of quality at least.  I kind of miss the concept of the coins, but I know people dug the stands.  I just felt the coins were a little more appealing as a side collectible, at least for me anyway.

-2-1B...  One of the lesser interesting looking figures, but still a droid is welcome when it's something new/different.  I like it but it's not one of the higher figures on my wishlists really.

-Po Nudo...  I was all about voting for Po in the E3 vote here on the forums.  The Aqualish Senator's pretty cool looking and will make a fine addition to the Senator wall (and it really is becoming a wall.  There's tons of those).

-41st Kashyyyk Trooper...  Whoa mama!  I bought a ton of these guys...  Well like 20 anyway, and now they're all Imperial Advanced Recon Troopers I guess. :)  I like the look of the new one.  The details seem like theyr'e just right, as they should've been from the get-go. 

-Octuparra Droid...  Not sure where this was honestly.  I thought it was the droid ont he Mygeeto Bridge...  It's cool looking but having a place to place it would be nice.

-Gree...  Best of the bunch is a Gree resculpt.  I just hope he has all the details of Gree's uniform and Hasbro can finally put that shoddy POS they delivered us in 2005 to rest.  It's looking good, so I'm very hopeful I can take Gree off my resculpt wishlists. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 31, 2007, 04:32 AM
I never managed to snag the original Gree. What was so awful about it anyway?

A nice looking wave, with a little something for everyone by the look of it. Po Nudo shall satisfy my cravings for weird aliens. The 2-1B looks kinda neat too. Looking to be yet another good year.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 31, 2007, 09:30 AM
I never managed to snag the original Gree. What was so awful about it anyway?


The inaccurately painted helmet was the sticking point for just about everybody.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on July 31, 2007, 12:26 PM
I was just thinking. If Hasbro is giving us a new Gree already does that mean we have a chance in getting a new Baccara as well? After all he was in more need of a resculpt then Gree was.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on July 31, 2007, 04:34 PM
I was just thinking. If Hasbro is giving us a new Gree already does that mean we have a chance in getting a new Baccara as well? After all he was in more need of a resculpt then Gree was.

Agreed. While I initally liked the Bacara figure, many clones have come after the release of that figure and have been MUCH better. Bacara needs a serious upgrade. Wouldn't take much either. Use a #41 body, swap out the helmets, add the Kama (skirt), and shoulder strap armor and bam. New enough Bacara to buy. This can almost be done anyway with a #41. I think it's the Helmet that just doesn't quite fit right, IIRC.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 31, 2007, 07:44 PM
-Octuparra Droid...  Not sure where this was honestly.  I thought it was the droid ont he Mygeeto Bridge...  It's cool looking but having a place to place it would be nice.

Jesse, you can see them on Utapau, most notably in the background when Obi-Wan and Grievous are dueling and more visibly when the Clones are fighting the Crab Droids.  Also, even though it wasn't in the films, they were pretty visible during the invasion of Coruscant in the "Clone Wars" animated series.

They're similar to the Crab Droids, though, in that they have varying scales within the universe.  The larger ones are indeed on Mygeeto in ROTS, but the smaller ones are in the film, too.

And, as I've been complaining about it for a while, too, add me to the "NOW DO BACARA RIGHT!" chorus line.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 31, 2007, 09:50 PM
I never managed to snag the original Gree. What was so awful about it anyway?


The inaccurately painted helmet was the sticking point for just about everybody.

Even the armor was mispainted though, and the sidearm missing.  The new figure looks right on and looks to have a removable helmet to boot.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on August 1, 2007, 01:20 AM
I never managed to snag the original Gree. What was so awful about it anyway?


The inaccurately painted helmet was the sticking point for just about everybody.

Even the armor was mispainted though, and the sidearm missing.  The new figure looks right on and looks to have a removable helmet to boot.

Add to the inaccurate helmet:

-Painted on suspenders
-No holsters/pouches on the thighs
-Inaccurate back

And yeah, the bad paint aps on the armor too.

I was more disappointed by the inaccurate sculpt than the paint applications though...  Painted-on suspender things?  meh...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on August 1, 2007, 01:51 AM
(http://www.jedidefender.com/gallery/files/gallery/Conventions/San_Diego_Comic_Con_2007/Hasbro/Friday_Presentation/Slide62.JPG)

Glad the coins are going away... useless pack in to me.  Not thrilled about THESE stands, why not "REAL STANDS" or just a consistent pack in that makes sense, like a build-a-figure pack-in?  I can't believe they still haven't done that for Star Wars.

2-1B - Liking it.  Glad they're making this version, guess for me he can double as the ESB version too... I want a few for customs as well.  Are those articulated knees I see there?   :)  Count me in for about 4 in total.

Po Nudo - Love it.  Bout time we get a new Separatist, and finally a new Aqualish!  Count me in for 2 for dioramas, and 2-3 more for customs.

41st Kashyyyk Trooper - I have about 10 of the old verison, glad I didn't get more.  I'll get about 10 of this new version. 

Octuparra Droid - YES!!!  Best of the wave.  I'll get about 10 of these.  And about half will be for oddball droid customs.  Definitely a surprise here.  OUTSTANDING HASBRO.

Gree - Glad he's being redone, but I'm ready to slap someone for giving him a removable helmet.  Now his helmet will look poofy like he has elephantitis uder that bucket of his.

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on August 1, 2007, 11:54 AM
I was just thinking. If Hasbro is giving us a new Gree already does that mean we have a chance in getting a new Baccara as well? After all he was in more need of a resculpt then Gree was.

Agreed. While I initally liked the Bacara figure, many clones have come after the release of that figure and have been MUCH better. Bacara needs a serious upgrade. Wouldn't take much either. Use a #41 body, swap out the helmets, add the Kama (skirt), and shoulder strap armor and bam. New enough Bacara to buy. This can almost be done anyway with a #41. I think it's the Helmet that just doesn't quite fit right, IIRC.

I cant agree more with this. I actually think they could do a better Bacara with an Evolutions body. Just repaint the kama, give him the right pauldron, and a removable helmet. There, an easy Bacara. DO IT, HASBRO!

I couldn't help but notice only five figures in this wave...maybe there's more, including that Bacara.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on August 1, 2007, 12:29 PM
Im surprised by the the fast retool on the Kashyyyk Trooper and Gree. I'll be picking those up and turning the previous ones into other troopers. The Po Nudo is going to be good custom fodder. Looking forward to the droids as well.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Reid on August 1, 2007, 02:12 PM
I NEVER thought Gree would get a resculpt. I figure, since he's such an obscure Clone, that Hasbro would think his ROTS figure to be good enough. Same with Bacara. I guess there's hope for him too.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on August 1, 2007, 03:52 PM
"I'm ready to slap someone for giving him a removable helmet..."

Well then, slap many of the people on these furums who asked and asked and asked for removable helmets.   Hasbro's only doing it because collectors wanted it.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on August 1, 2007, 03:57 PM
well he doesnt have a pauldron so his chin should be covered.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on August 1, 2007, 04:14 PM
I don't think Gree's "obscure" really...  He's with Yoda afterall, and the one that tries offing the Jedi Master Hasbro loves to throw at us again and again...  I think the ties to Yoda alone make him more resculpt-likely than Bacara really.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: roron corobb on August 2, 2007, 02:09 AM
Yes, Bacara was bad, but Gree was just as bad just minus the articulation problems ::). Bacara will be done again, because he can be made with already existing parts. Plus would be a money saver for Hasbro too, so you can count on him making a come back. I for one would like them to redo him on the #41 clone body over the evo one. The #41 IMO is a better Clone and has more articulation. I have been putting off making a custom do to the ease of making one, so you can mark my words we will see another Bacara again. You just can't count on Hasbro to make it perfect when they do.

roron corobb
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2007, 08:51 AM
I was a little surprised to see a Gree (and Kashyyyk Trooper) resculpt so soon after the initial release(s).  Not that I'm complaining, I'm really looking forward to both figures, but I thought it might be a thing where Hasbro said "good enough" for a bit longer.  Heck, they think their Rebel Fleet Trooper is "pretty nice", but they'll resculpt clones that are a year old ;).
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on August 2, 2007, 09:29 AM
Jedi Insider (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=10547) has some nice (larger) shots of these figures up now.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on August 2, 2007, 02:55 PM
Jedi Insider (http://jediinsider.com/index.php?catid=8&itemid=10547) has some nice (larger) shots of these figures up now.

Whoa that 21-b has atriculation galore.  Gree I'll have to get if anything for the damn binoc's  :-\  41st...eh I was actually fine with the repaint Scout.  Doc Oc Droid looks to have articulation galore x2.  Po I'll get 2 one to customize.  Also side note is the rifle that comes with the 41st a new sculpt?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on August 2, 2007, 03:08 PM
Ah those pictures help to do the figures justice. I was already sold on these. I am much more now. I'm even getting more convinced of the AT-RT set. And the EVO sets look much better. SA Qui-gon and Jango!!! Whoo-hoo.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on August 2, 2007, 06:42 PM
"I'm ready to slap someone for giving him a removable helmet..."

Well then, slap many of the people on these furums who asked and asked and asked for removable helmets.   Hasbro's only doing it because collectors wanted it.

I hate the removable helmets on ROTS clones, because Hasbro hasn't done as good with them... I know some people want them, but so far they've done a poor job on the ROTS removable helmets.  Same thing happened with the TAC Stormtrooper...

Just look how much larger this helmet is on a clone -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0565tactopstrooperfront.jpg)

Then how much better it looks here -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tsc064appoclone.jpg)

It's just like any other figure parts when there's more than one version of something made... to me the removable helmets are a step back on ROTS clones (except for Cody - to adjust, they reduced the size of his head itself so they didn't make an oversized helmet... another example is the Combat Engineer - cool figure, but the helmet really looks too big and also with that grade of plastic they seem to lose a lot of the details in the sculpt (not to mention the painting is never as precise) -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC/tsc068engineerLI.jpg)


Anyways, I'm sure you guys have seen these close ups but just in case -

(http://jediinsider.net/g/albums/Hasbro/30th/Wave_9/Picture1.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/albums/Hasbro/30th/Wave_9/Picture2.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/30th/Wave_9/Picture3__scaled_600.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/albums/Hasbro/30th/Wave_9/Picture4.jpg)

(http://jediinsider.net/g/generated/Hasbro/30th/Wave_9/Picture5__scaled_600.jpg)

It almost looks like Gree is a kitbash of three different figures -

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0506clonetrooperloose-m.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0538attegunnerloose-m.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0541cloneloose-m.jpg)

Almost like somehow the compressed these parts togther for a mock-up -

helmet - ROTS AT-TE Gunner or maybe even the ROTS Combat Engineer?
arms - ROTS Quick Draw Clone
torso - ROTS SA Clone
legs - ROTS Quic Draw Clone

If you look closely you can see the belt is positions the correct way (rather than upside down like the SA Clone).

Maybe it's just an AT-TE Gunner clone with modifications, but the waist kind of looks ball jointed from Hasbro's preview.  And the belt piece definitely does not look sculpted on, but rather a separate piece like the SA Clone.

This is probably the last time they make a Gree (other than repacks) so I'm hoping it's a good figure.

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 2, 2007, 07:46 PM


I hate the removable helmets on ROTS clones, because Hasbro hasn't done as good with them... I know some people want them, but so far they've done a poor job on the ROTS removable helmets. 

I think the Galactic Marine, Airborne Trooper, and Cody are all ROTS clone removable helmets that came out well though, except the pinhead under Cody of course, but the helmet itself isn't bad.

I wonder if that Kashyyyk Elite helmet is removable.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on August 2, 2007, 08:08 PM
You're right Dressel, they did do fine on those other helmet sculpts.  It's the generic grunt clone helmet they seem to have trouble with when making it removable.

I guess I should have clarified what I meant better.   :)

 :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on August 2, 2007, 09:34 PM
Quote
I wonder if that Kashyyyk Elite helmet is removable.

maybe a flip visor? it would be cool to have it removable though. I know it would only make me buy more of him. Nothing cooler than a briefing display with some clones holding their helmets under their arms :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Diddly on August 2, 2007, 11:24 PM
Hmm, that Elite still doesn't look "right" to me. Looks like all they really did was repaint the Biker Scout and maybe sculpted a new helmet.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on August 3, 2007, 08:09 AM
it also looks like the trooper has modified marine legs.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on August 5, 2007, 09:18 AM
The detail on all the figures is great. Quality work on all of them.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Cyber 7306 on August 17, 2007, 01:44 PM
I am definatly buying Po Nudo 21b and Commander Gree. They look so awesome!!!!!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on September 28, 2007, 11:32 PM
Here's the first wave

2008 Wave 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87500K#LargeImage)

I think i am most excited about the Mustafar Panning Droid.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on September 29, 2007, 12:09 AM
Here's the first wave

2008 Wave 1 (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87500K#LargeImage)

I think i am most excited about the Mustafar Panning Droid.

the panning droid looks wicked. ANd is that a new Obi?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on September 29, 2007, 12:51 AM

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/%5CAUTOIMAGES%5CHS87500Klg.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on September 29, 2007, 01:00 AM
Solid wave.  I was wondering when Hasbro would get around to adding some core characters to this wave, and the Obi-Wan and Darth Vader both look good.  Nice, subtle updates to the Obi-Wan, with the new head sculpt and softgoods obi.  As for Vader?  Very good.  Nice new headsculpt, and it appears to have some decent articulation. 

The Mustafar panning droid with hover platform looks awesome!  I don't think we're getting a good sense of it's scale though, since it's supposed to be big enough so that Vader can stand on top of it.  And the platform is supposed to be big enough to fit two characters.  I'll need at least two of these, one for the Mustafar miners and another for Obi-Wan and Vader.

The renaming of the Tri-droid seems interesting.  I know there's been some confusion with that particular droid.

The Clones look cool.  But I'm having a tough time getting excited about them.  I guess I'm cloned out to a degree.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nathan on September 29, 2007, 03:23 AM
Po Nudo is a must-have.

Undecided on 2-1B.

The tri-droid just looks kind of silly, so I'll pass.

And I've never liked the camo Kashyyyk troopers and don't have the original releases, so pass again.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth Slothus on September 29, 2007, 03:49 AM
I love the octupara droid-

Been waiting for that for awhile- Does the head go up and down? I wonder what the limb articulation is like.

the Lava droid looks good too.

DS
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 29, 2007, 04:43 AM
I'm gonna go ape on that 41st elite and the fatigues clone.  Very sweet.  I wonder if there are going to be as many 41st Elites hanging around on the pegs as there are Airborne clones and Galactic Marines.  I could go shopping right now to a TRU, 2 Targets, 2 Walmarts and a KB, and come home with 60 Galactic Marines right now if I wanted to, and the Marine is a phenomenal figure.  I hope the same goes for that 41st Elite.

EDIT:  I just enlarged the EE pic of the 41st, that is the same head from the tin biker scout with the flip up helmet, except the flip up helmet part that detatches from the head has been resculpted to be a little larger with a proper visor.  But the head and stationary visor part that sits on the neck is identical.

Looking at the size of Gree's noggin', that helmet does come off.

Some of you probably remember me saying that the ROTS Pilot Obi Wan's legs were way too skinny, almost nobody agreed.   But they were.  Anyhow, Hasbro corrected that.  And it looks much better now.

The poncho clone should have a better removable helmet, that Evolutions helmet is too small and really deforms when you put it on the figure's head.  The Clone Wars SA clone (AOTC Saga Legends clone) helmet is perfect, and I'd rather have that even if it doesn't come off.

Poncho Jango looks delightful.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on September 29, 2007, 09:05 AM
The Mustafar Droid is my favorite of the wave without a doubt. The one thing i do notice is what i was afraid of. They are carrying over figures from this year to next year for the wave. I really believe this year was special in regards to large pack-ins and new figures. I dont think we will be getting as much next year.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 29, 2007, 09:11 AM
OHG! They're all one per case. They're going to be super rare.  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on September 29, 2007, 09:43 AM
I will be all over this wave. But isnt Darth Vader just a repack of the Evo one?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on September 29, 2007, 09:51 AM
OHG! They're all one per case. They're going to be super rare.  ::)

(http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/64/06/23210664.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on September 29, 2007, 10:06 AM
Looking at the size of Gree's noggin', that helmet does come off.

Thanks to Yoda's handy lightsaber skills.  ;)

I know I'm getting 2-1B and Po Nudo for sure... too bad we're not getting FX-6 to complement 2-1, though. Gree looks good, but I'm reserved on the Kashyyyk Scout, Mustafar Panning Droid and Tri-droid. I'll probably get them though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Reid on September 29, 2007, 11:26 AM
I'll definitely get Po Nudo, and maybe the droids... But that's it.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CorranHorn on September 29, 2007, 05:58 PM
Finally they're going to release the Evolutions ROTS Anakin on a basic card! Sure it could still use ball joint elbows, but until they get to that this is the best ROTS Anakin there is and should be readily available.

The changes on the Pilot Obi-Wan are interesting, a new headsculpt, softgoods skirt (why?!?), and Dressel I think the legs are the same as the previous figures, I think they may have either corrected the pelvis or the angle of the pegs which give the leg's a different stance.

The droids look pretty cool to me, nicely detailed I just hope they don't suffer from soft-plasticitis. The clones are a meh to me. I'm totally cloned out. The Aqualish senator looks nice, I just hope they learned their lessen from Lushros Dofine - senators don't sell!

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on September 29, 2007, 06:13 PM
senators don't sell!

There is corruption in the senate.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darby on September 29, 2007, 06:13 PM
I love the Lava Droid and the platform, but I love they're doing Mustfar versions of Anakin and Obi even better.  I'd like to see them a little more scruffed up, but they look really good.   Solid wave.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Phrubruh on September 29, 2007, 07:13 PM
I don't know. All I see are pegwarmers to mess up future waves. Obiwan and Anakin are too much the same as the last two years to sell. They will clog the pegs big time. The training clone and jango are left over from the previous wave.  The clones and the two droids are nice though. Too me it just doesn't look good.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 30, 2007, 09:23 AM
The changes on the Pilot Obi-Wan are interesting, a new headsculpt, softgoods skirt (why?!?),



So he can finally have a seat in his ship I'd guess.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Daigo-Bah on September 30, 2007, 10:44 AM
I have to admit a small part of me feels a pang of envy or a similar emotion when Hasbro releases a wave of excellent sculpts that I just won't buy.  Why?  Well, I only collect OT themed stuff, so when a great-looking wave (sculpt-wise, not necessarily theme-wise) comes out, I switch to the bitter old purist who complains that the kids won't get off my lawn or whatever  :P.  For ROTS toy fans, I think these are great, but I'm ready to see some OT 2008 stuff.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 30, 2007, 07:26 PM
I dont think we will be getting as much next year.

I hope you're right, even though I know that's not where you were coming from.  This 60 figures a year business is killing me.  For a line that has no current film, 60 figures PLUS a reissue line alongside it year after year just seems like a recipe for disaster.  Hasbro needs to cut the number of figures back (I could handle about 40 figures total, plus ships here and there, plus the comic packs) before they burn the retailers out on the stuff.  I hate to break it to them, but those mountains of Jerjerrods, Endor Threepios, Padmes, and (now) the 30AC Vaders are not good news for the future of the line.  Hasbro can claim "regional experience does not translate to the entire country" all they want, but when your pegs are consistently full with the same figures for the last year to the point that every new case assortment is only a trickle in every third store, it isn't a good sign.

But, Chicken Little-Me aside, I really like the looks of the new figures for 2008.  I've been wanting the Mining Droid/Platform for some time, and I only hope they give the Mining Droid one of those clear stands (ala the Jedi Temple Analysis droid) that will support Anakin's weight.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on September 30, 2007, 08:45 PM
Y'know, on paper 60 new figs a year sounds like a ton, however when you think that each wave is about 6 figures, that's equal to about 10 waves a year.  10 waves a year, comes out to about a new wave every 5 weeks.  6 figures every 5 weeks, just doesn't seem like too much for me.  Once I complete a wave, it seems like it's 3-4 weeks before anything new shows up, and I'm already jonesing for more!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on October 1, 2007, 01:30 AM
For me, it's the added expenses in collecting of army building, customizing, and the like that add to the "overwhelming" factors in a 60 figure year.  Oh, and exclusives, ships, etc., etc...  60 figures looks like a WHOLE lot more when there's all that added on there. :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nathan on October 1, 2007, 02:45 AM
6 figures + sales tax = $45 every five weeks. Here's how I look at it, and why I'm not a completist:

At my $7/hr pre-taxes, that's an 8-9 hr workday devoted solely to SW figures.

Or 17 gallons of gas.

Or 60 cans of cheap beer or 35 bottles of more expensive brews. ;)

For a two-of-everything carded and loose completist, double each accordingly. And of course this doesn't take into account even the 3.75" vehicles, comic packs, etc.--much less Galactic Heroes or any of the side-lines.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 1, 2007, 09:17 AM
Y'know, on paper 60 new figs a year sounds like a ton, however when you think that each wave is about 6 figures, that's equal to about 10 waves a year.  10 waves a year, comes out to about a new wave every 5 weeks.  6 figures every 5 weeks, just doesn't seem like too much for me. 

Do that for ten years and tell me where you have room to put it all. :P

That's why starting next year, I'm cutting back.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on October 1, 2007, 09:30 AM
I could do with less figures a year as well.  Not that I'm not enjoying what we get - this year in particular has been a great year of collecting, as we've discussed elsewhere here - but it does tend to get a bit overwhelming.  If it was just those 60 basic figures it wouldn't be as bad - but then there's the Legends line, all the army builders this year, vehicles, comic packs, exclusives, battle packs, etc.  I'm not a completist on anything really (this year the basic line has been though, for the coins  ::)), but it has been a lot to keep up with the past few years.  I keep telling my wife "well the movies are over, so it should be a lot less this year" - I've said that for a few years now.  I wouldn't mind seeing the 40 figure number mentioned earlier either, with the vehicles and comic packs sprinkled in too.

Now, back to this wave, it is great to finally see that Anakin packed on a basic card.  Ball jointed elbows would be nice, but aside from that its about the perfect ROTS Anakin.  I'll pick up a couple more if possible, and the Obi-Wan looks good too.  The new Lava droid was a surprise, and looks pretty nice.  The whole wave in general looks like a winner, and I'll be getting at least one of each I think (aside from the repacked ones from this year).  But, with all the Clone Wars stuff looming later next year, I hope we start seeing more OT goodness from future waves.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ctonra on October 1, 2007, 10:44 AM
THIS WAVE IS AWSUME, BUT I GUESS WE WILL NOW HAVE SOME CARRY OVER FIGURES THAT CAME WITH COINS THIS YEAR AND WITH STANDS NEXT.  I WONDER IF WE WILL SEE ANY MORE FIGURES FROM THIS YEARS IN NEXT YEARS WAVES
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: IshiTib on October 1, 2007, 11:13 AM
i like this wave, 3 good figures to buy for me:

po nudo (separatists, yeah ;D ), 2-1b and the lava droid is also very nice

commander gree only if he's cheap, but i don't think so ^^
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 1, 2007, 07:29 PM
The whole Octuptarra VS Tri-Droid thing has been a little confusing.  First Hasbro calls it the Octuptarra droid, and now it's called the Tri-Droid.  Hopefully we can get a bigger pic of the figure at some point to make a decent comparison.

(http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images//AUTOIMAGES/HS87500Klg.jpg)


Tri-Droid
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/90/TriDroid.jpg)


Octuptarra Droid
(http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/1/1a/Octuptarra_droid.jpg)


The image is leaning much more towards the Tri-Droid.  And as for a distinction from the Official Site, both droids are listed at about the same size/height.  One at 3 meters tall, the other at 3.7 meters tall.  And those dimensions have to make you wonder how tall the figure will finally stand.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on October 1, 2007, 08:56 PM
"Do that for ten years and tell me where you have room to put it all. "

Actually, Darth Anton,  I've been doing it since 1995!  And from 1977-1985 before that.  I have room for evertyhing in my attic, but only a portion of my collection gets displayed.  I rotate in new figs and put old ones away.  One day I hope to have more room to dispaly at least half what I have.

But I also keep my collecting to a minimum.  One of each figure to open.  I buy doubles of some army builders.  One of each ship to open.   NO REPACKS.  Legends is just a waste for me, but I'll grab one here and there.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 2, 2007, 09:28 AM
"Do that for ten years and tell me where you have room to put it all. "

Actually, Darth Anton,  I've been doing it since 1995!  And from 1977-1985 before that. 

Same here my friend. :)

I have room for evertyhing in my attic,

I forgot about attics. And basements. We don't have them here in SoCal. :(
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on October 2, 2007, 12:59 PM
Since this is Darth Vader and not Anakin anymore will we get some Sith eye on him?  I know we have "that other one" but really except for no ball jointed elbows this is the best ROTS sculpt of him and it would be great to have him with the Sith eyes.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 2, 2007, 05:28 PM
Y'know, on paper 60 new figs a year sounds like a ton, however when you think that each wave is about 6 figures, that's equal to about 10 waves a year.  10 waves a year, comes out to about a new wave every 5 weeks.  6 figures every 5 weeks, just doesn't seem like too much for me.  Once I complete a wave, it seems like it's 3-4 weeks before anything new shows up, and I'm already jonesing for more!

WORD!
Finally someone I can relate to! This crap is like crack: I NEED MY FIX!!!!!!!!!!

I wish they made 80 so we have a new wave every month.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 2, 2007, 05:36 PM
Im not buying the Obi/Anakin or the clones. Not buying anymore figures I already have! ANd when we are going to get a New Hope Obi updated?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 2, 2007, 05:43 PM
This wave is cool but I would have liked this Obi Wan with burnt clothing/dirt damage. Hopefully production will have that. Sith Eyes are a must!

There are a lot of figures overdue for update.

Old Ben can use a proper one but what about:
Nien Numb
Ponda Baba
Dr. Evezian
Luke xwing Hoth
Leia Hoth
Yakface
Gammorian Guard
Weequay
Uncle Owen

They need some serious updates.........
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on October 2, 2007, 06:04 PM
Im not buying the Obi/Anakin or the clones. Not buying anymore figures I already have! ANd when we are going to get a New Hope Obi updated?

We have in the form of the VOTC Obi. Like it or not, that's the update at least for now.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Mainland05 on October 6, 2007, 11:35 PM
This is very exciting... 8)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 16, 2007, 11:53 AM
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Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 16, 2007, 08:11 PM
StarWarsShop.com is listing Obi-Wan & Vader as coming on Lava Platforms, so does that mean the Lava Droid doesn't come with anything, and the platform in the pic is the one that comes with them?

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=414472;category_id=;pcid1=;pcid2=
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on October 16, 2007, 09:52 PM
Hmmm...I'm not seeing any foot pegs in that platform...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 17, 2007, 09:16 AM
StarWarsShop.com is listing Obi-Wan & Vader as coming on Lava Platforms, so does that mean the Lava Droid doesn't come with anything, and the platform in the pic is the one that comes with them?

Somehow I doubt it. Doesn't make sense from a price point stance.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on October 17, 2007, 09:34 AM
Maybe the platform is split up among the three figures? 

Obi and Ani each with half the platform and then the Lava Droid with the red lava portion... or something like that?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on October 17, 2007, 10:51 AM
Maybe the platform is split up among the three figures? 

That's my thinking, Jeff. Only way to get people interested in buying figures that are basically being rereleased.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 20, 2007, 01:09 PM

(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Hasbro1/100_3965.JPG)
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Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on October 20, 2007, 04:06 PM
Very awesome, I am surprised to see them all ready like that so soon. Anyone have any guess on the 3 coming soon blacked out figures.

EDIT------

I am thinking the hidden figures are the Force Unleashed figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on October 20, 2007, 05:06 PM
the platform looks really small. but besides that this wave looks amazing.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on October 20, 2007, 05:07 PM
I think you're right about the FU figures.  The one all the way to the right looks like that Jedi woman with the bare belly outfit.

AND...their are foot pegs on the platform!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 20, 2007, 08:47 PM
I'm just puzzled about the first silhouetted figure.  It doesn't match up with any of the figures that we've seen before.  But it could be this one droid character called Proxy that's listed on the Force Unleashed characters page.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 20, 2007, 08:58 PM
Are the Anakin and Obi the same ones Target put out last year as exclusives? I think they should have added the panning droid with those figures, maybe they would not have become peg warmers! Does anyone know how many more waves of the 30th they are going to do before they start TFU figures? OR are those going to be packed in the 30th cards as well? No more coins?   :(
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on October 20, 2007, 09:02 PM
I think that the first tow are stormtroopers, the first one has a leg holster on the right side.  The head shape looks odd because of the backpack...yup.  RS has pics up.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 20, 2007, 09:02 PM
Are the Anakin and Obi the same ones Target put out last year as exclusives? I think they should have added the panning droid with those figures, maybe they would not have become peg warmers! Does anyone know how many more waves of the 30th they are going to do before they start TFU figures? OR are those going to be packed in the 30th cards as well? No more coins?   :(

Whoa, talk about some serious ADD.  Maybe try one question at a time.  ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 20, 2007, 09:05 PM
Are the Anakin and Obi the same ones Target put out last year as exclusives? I think they should have added the panning droid with those figures, maybe they would not have become peg warmers! Does anyone know how many more waves of the 30th they are going to do before they start TFU figures? OR are those going to be packed in the 30th cards as well? No more coins?   :(

Whoa, talk about some serious ADD.  Maybe try one question at a time.  ;D
Sorry, but I hope they were goog questions. To answer the ? about the lava platform, the discription says "12" figures for the case, and that is how many figures are shown.  So I would say NO to the platform being with Anaking and Obi.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on October 20, 2007, 09:30 PM
Um, there's a picture on the previous page clearly showing the platform with the droid...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Smartypants1635 on October 20, 2007, 10:00 PM
I don't thing they were very "goog" questions at all, they are easily found out.

TFU starts in february next year.
No more coins.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 20, 2007, 11:12 PM
I will actually miss the coins. I like them better than the useless stands with logos on them. At least ROTS had cool environment stands.....

also disappointed that there is not lava damage on obi-wan and anakin.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 20, 2007, 11:18 PM
I don't think they were very "good" questions at all, they are easily found out.

TFU starts in february next year.
No more coins.
Who asked you!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 21, 2007, 01:08 AM
I looked pretty closely at the silhouettes on the cardback.  It looks like those figures are as follows:

___  # 08/09  Imperial Evo Trooper
___  # 08/10  Imperial Jump Trooper
___  # 08/11  Maris Brood

Are the Anakin and Obi the same ones Target put out last year as exclusives?  I think they should have added the panning droid with those figures, maybe they would not have become peg warmers!

No, not at all.  And those came out in 2005. 

The Obi-Wan in this wave is a kitbash of the ROTS Obi-Wan pilot figure.  The changes appear to be a new head sculpt and most of the skirt portion of the tunic appears to be made from softgoods.  There's a pic of that Obi-Wan in the cockpit of the Grievous starfighter, and it appears as though it might have some kind of scorch marks on the tunic.  ***EDIT - I looked at the image again, and that Obi-Wan in the Grievous fighter is a prototype, and the markings on it aren't scorches, they're the prototype indicators that Hasbro uses to identify pre-production pieces.

The Darth Vader in this wave appears to be the ROTS Evolutions figure.  It looks like the headsculpt might be slightly different, and the paint apps look a bit better, too.

The Panning Droid looks like it's a good figure on it's own.  Add in the mining platform and I think it's a good set.

Does anyone know how many more waves of the 30th they are going to do before they start TFU figures? OR are those going to be packed in the 30th cards as well? No more coins?   :(

From what I mentioned above, it appears that wave 2 is the first wave of The Force Unleashed.  There are rumored to be two waves for TFU, followed by a few 30AC transitional waves leading up the Clone Wars line.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 21, 2007, 09:10 AM
What a surprise to wake up to. Feels like these are going to be here before we know it.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darby on October 21, 2007, 11:48 AM
These all look fantastic.  I was hoping Obi and Anakin would be a little more scruffed up from their duel.  Obi, anyway; Anakin looks pretty good.  Can't wait for these.   :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Artoo on October 21, 2007, 01:05 PM
Whoah. This soon.  :o
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 21, 2007, 01:31 PM
These probably will not hit until mid to late January.  We've still got three waves worth of 30AC that have not shipped at all, and a good deal of wave 5 and 6 yet to hit most stores.  And you can bet on mid to late January because of the post holiday doldrums and subsequent inventory process.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on October 21, 2007, 03:57 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Hasbro1/100_3978.JPG)

Man, those wider bubbles sure look empty without the coins.... still, I like what I'm seeing in this wave, especially the panning droid - I love the fact that we finally get the platform.  Guess that makes up for the lack of things with the rest of the wave.

And, I can't tell from the pic, but I REALLY hope that Darth Vader there has the yellowy "sith eyes" since that is one repaint I'd still like to see again on an Anakin/Vader.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on October 21, 2007, 04:08 PM
I dont need another Anakin or Obi. With all the characters they could have did why these two?  Im gad Hasbro is makeing my choice to no longer be a "completests" easy! 
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on October 21, 2007, 04:12 PM
no coin but we do get..STANDS.. :P. I dont know i really liked the coins but now that they are gone I dont have to buy one of everyfigure any more. Back to picking and choosing my favourite ones again :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on October 21, 2007, 04:31 PM
With all the characters they could have did why these two? 

Because kids like Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi.  End of story.

I hate to break it to you, but there will probably be more Darth Vaders, Luke Skywalkers, and Han Solos next year too...  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ruiner on October 22, 2007, 04:47 PM
(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Hasbro1/100_3978.JPG)

Man, those wider bubbles sure look empty without the coins....

Yes, I agree - they could have at least packed the stand in that space.  Nothing looks worse on the shelf than an empty bubble.  We were definitely spoiled this year with the coins and inordinate pack-ins.



Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: iFett on October 22, 2007, 04:53 PM
I hope the prices get bumped back down a buck or two, but I doubt it'll happen....I'm just sick of overpaying for pack-ins that I could care less about..

Isn't that a stand at the bottom of the bubble?  I thought I read somewhere that the stands would be coming back after the coins.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 22, 2007, 04:55 PM
Yes, I agree - they could have at least packed the stand in that space.  Nothing looks worse on the shelf than an empty bubble. 

Isn't that a stand at the bottom of the bubble?  I thought I read somewhere that the stands would be coming back after the coins.

Yep, I think Ruiner meant that they should have packed the stand in the coin's former location.  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Matt on October 22, 2007, 04:58 PM
The Darth Vader in this wave. . .

I just want to go on record as saying that this annoys me.  The whole "Anakin/Darth Vader" thing.  Yes, I know that in the film he's "Darth Vader," and even the toys are "Darth Vaders," but, to me, the suit = Darth Vader.  He's still Anakin up until he gets put in the suit.

It's much easier that way, Papa Lucas be damned.  This whole "he's actually 'Darth Vader' before the suit" deal has unnecessarily and annoyingly complicated things.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 22, 2007, 05:06 PM
Quote
This whole "he's actually 'Darth Vader' before the suit" deal has unnecessarily and annoyingly complicated things.

True, but I don't mind it as much. Though, I think if they're are going to go the route of making any pre-armor designated Vaders, then they should have the "Sith Eyes" to differentiate.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ruiner on October 22, 2007, 05:29 PM
Matt's right on this one.

Darth Vader = armor.

And heavy breathing.

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on October 22, 2007, 06:15 PM
http://www.sandtroopers.com/events/dallas_fandays_2007/pics/target136.html

the picture of Gree in that photo looks like he has balljointed hips. This is starting to make me wonder if they have an all new clone trooper sculpt.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on October 22, 2007, 06:51 PM
Matt's right on this one.

Darth Vader = armor.

And heavy breathing.

And what's Padme's say about that?  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 22, 2007, 06:52 PM
I dunno, 1 second he's Anakin, then he gets duped into carving up Mace, next second he's Darth Vader.

(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2907/pdvd0342gx.png)

No glowey eyes, just a new name.  I kinda like that there's a transition period between going to the dark side, taking a name in the Darth series, and then getting jacked by Obi Wan and having to wear the suit.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 22, 2007, 07:14 PM
Then there is the glowy eyes when carving up the separatists on Mustafar.

I say

Sith Eyes or Armor figure = Vader figure

No Sith Eyes / No Armor figure = Anakin figure
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Artoo on October 22, 2007, 09:53 PM
http://www.sandtroopers.com/events/dallas_fandays_2007/pics/target136.html

the picture of Gree in that photo looks like he has balljointed hips. This is starting to make me wonder if they have an all new clone trooper sculpt.
Gree requires an all-new sculpt soo....
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on October 22, 2007, 10:08 PM
http://www.sandtroopers.com/events/dallas_fandays_2007/pics/target136.html

the picture of Gree in that photo looks like he has balljointed hips. This is starting to make me wonder if they have an all new clone trooper sculpt.
Gree requires an all-new sculpt soo....

isnt he just regular phase 2 armor with some straps on?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Matt on October 23, 2007, 12:33 AM
I dunno, 1 second he's Anakin, then he gets duped into carving up Mace, next second he's Darth Vader.

No glowey eyes, just a new name.  I kinda like that there's a transition period between going to the dark side, taking a name in the Darth series, and then getting jacked by Obi Wan and having to wear the suit.

A transition period makes sense.  But this happens so fast.  Makes me wonder what incredibly life-changing, life-defining event occurred that gave Darth Maul his name.  How did Darth Maul get his name, anyway?  Is it explained away in the Exhausted Universe?

Anyway, I understand it, begrudgingly.  But I'll still always equate the suit with Darth Vader.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 23, 2007, 07:09 AM
A transition period makes sense.  But this happens so fast.  Makes me wonder what incredibly life-changing, life-defining event occurred that gave Darth Maul his name.  How did Darth Maul get his name, anyway?  Is it explained away in the Exhausted Universe?

from wiki:

"After a month's time, his master returned and challenged him to a duel, which, already weakened, Maul quickly lost. Sidious then told Maul that he had failed and is soon to be replaced. Overwhelmed by hatred, Maul nearly defeated his master. When Maul's emotions were finally spent, he prepared to die, only having been met by Sidious' satisfaction. By wanting to kill his own master, Maul had in fact passed the final test. His master proclaimed him Darth Maul, Dark Lord of the Sith, and took him to a new home on Coruscant."

No birth name has been given.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on October 23, 2007, 11:41 AM
I noticed in RS's coverage of "Star Wars Fan Days", they have some loose pics up of this wave for next year.  They are towards the end of that group of pics, but it gives you a better look at the figures up close if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Matt on October 23, 2007, 12:41 PM
from wiki:

Danke.

Quote
No birth name has been given.

Leroy Tucker.

There.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on October 23, 2007, 04:03 PM
No birth name has been given.

Leroy Tucker.

There.

Dennis Rodman's brother?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Artoo on October 23, 2007, 05:32 PM
isnt he just regular phase 2 armor with some straps on?
Yes but that requires a new sculpt. Hasbro just re-painted the clone for the first Gree & everyone hates it.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2007, 09:17 AM

isnt he just regular phase 2 armor with some straps on?

At the very least he's a kit bash since he has ball jointed hips.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 24, 2007, 11:19 AM
::droooool::

(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Focus/DSC02193.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Focus/DSC02191.jpg)

Thanks to Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Figure_Focus_2008_Wave_1_Revenge_of_the_Sith_109673.asp) for the images.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 24, 2007, 11:31 AM
Gree has ball-jointed wrists. That's a first for a Star Wars figure.

The Panning Droid and Platform were originally accessories for Obi-Wan & Vader, and the Droids arms plug into the lava base.


Read it here, Rebelscum (http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Figure_Focus_2008_Wave_1_Revenge_of_the_Sith_109673.asp)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 24, 2007, 11:54 AM
I'm pretty disappointed in the Panning Droid. The execution is just plain lazy.

A. No separate transparent base to support the Droid.

B. Why put foot pegs on top of his head if you have to take the droid and attach it to another base that has foot pegs. Kind of kills "the mood" of the set.  ::)

C. How long do you think it will take for Vader to topple off the droid's head given the flimsy arms that are now meant to support him.

D. It's a Lava Panning Droid. Where is the lava for the bowl?

Move over Mustafar Lava Miner... you're gonna have company.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on October 24, 2007, 12:14 PM
I guess that a little messed up about the Lava Droid orignally being a pack-in and now its own figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: iFett on October 24, 2007, 12:19 PM
They're half-assed accessories so they should have been pack-ins, but I suppose Hasbro has "spoiled" us a bit to much this year...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 24, 2007, 12:28 PM
Now I wonder what figure these accessories replaced.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on October 24, 2007, 02:41 PM
I think the panning droid looks pretty good actually.  So does the Elite Corps clone, and Gree is looking better to me now.

My favorites are the Octuparra droid and 2-1B though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on October 24, 2007, 03:54 PM
This wave has some solid picks but Pu Nudo is a real loser. I would have preferred Cin Drallig instead of a figure that will join the rest of my senator figures....at the bottom of my figure bin.

I am happy to see the Anakin on a single card but I would have liked some fire damage deco & sith eyes. Same for Obi Wan, fire damage. I hope we do not see another price increase because these figures are skimpy. Not even Jedi Cloaks included just the crappy 06 stands. I have to agree that the Lava droid is pretty useless and will warm pegs after awhile.

Gree, Kash Trooper, Tri, & 21 look great. I am glad I dump my o6 Kash Troopers and that I only had 6 of them. Count me in for 12 & 6 Tri Droids.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on October 24, 2007, 04:11 PM
The one thing I like about Po is the head.  I'm sure I'll get suckered into getting a few of this figure just for head swaps.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on October 24, 2007, 04:28 PM
I'll buy a second Po Nudo to make his aide.

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9838/ponudosaideda0.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 25, 2007, 09:27 AM
I'm really excited for the Gree now. He may just turn out to be the most perfect figure ever.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on October 25, 2007, 11:58 AM
Hmmm.  I'd really like to see some kind of clear stand for the Lava Panning Droid.  Otherwise there's no way that it's going to be able to support Vader.  I might have to do some "special modifications" to make that happen.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 26, 2007, 09:24 AM
Hmmm.  I'd really like to see some kind of clear stand for the Lava Panning Droid.  Otherwise there's no way that it's going to be able to support Vader.  I might have to do some "special modifications" to make that happen.

Someone highlighted a clear stand in a photo over at scum (I think it was in the package,) but it wasn't included in their "Exclusive" loose pictures.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on October 26, 2007, 09:35 AM
Hmmm.  I'd really like to see some kind of clear stand for the Lava Panning Droid.  Otherwise there's no way that it's going to be able to support Vader.  I might have to do some "special modifications" to make that happen.

Someone highlighted a clear stand in a photo over at scum (I think it was in the package,) but it wasn't included in their "Exclusive" loose pictures.

I saw that post too. It's not a stand - it's part of the inner bubble tray.

(http://webpages.charter.net/chrisswan/stand.jpg)

(http://www.rebelscum.com/SWFD/Hasbrobasic/DSC02163.JPG)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 27, 2007, 09:05 AM
Thanks, Jaybird!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on October 31, 2007, 02:26 PM
Then there is the glowy eyes when carving up the separatists on Mustafar.

I say

Sith Eyes or Armor figure = Vader figure

No Sith Eyes / No Armor figure = Anakin figure

I agree totally, but something I kind of been wondering to myself how do we explain Darth Tyranus/Dooku we never see any Sith eyes with him and obviously Sith eyes can be turned on and off just from watching the Mustafar scene Anakin  doesn't have them when he comes up to Pad's but 5 minutes ago he had 'em tearing up the Sep's.  I hope it's somehow explained but with the way the EU is it'll probably be a lame reason.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Rune Haako on November 1, 2007, 06:07 PM
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Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: speedermike on November 1, 2007, 06:15 PM
Wow.  Check out the ball-jointed wrists on Gree.  Can't wait to see that in a saber holding figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Reid on November 1, 2007, 07:26 PM
This wave looks nice. My favorites are Po, Imp 2-1B, and the tri-droid.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 2, 2007, 10:28 AM
Wow.  Check out the ball-jointed wrists on Gree.  Can't wait to see that in a saber holding figure.

I was wondering what made them decide to go with Ball-jointed wrists, but it finally hit me, they'll work optimally with the binoculars.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on November 2, 2007, 02:35 PM
Commander Gree: This looks like it'll be an amazing figure! The paintjob is a lot more accurate and it's good to finally get Gree with all his accessories from the movie rather than just the repacked blaster.

Kashyyyk Trooper: I will be buying several of these, another awesome figure. It's funny that the loose shot has him with Gree's backpack though. Now that Hasbro has proved that they won't go bankrupt resculpting some of the lamer army builders of 2005 and 2006, I hope this means we have a chance of getting a new Bacara.

2-1B: As a huge fan of 2-1B (Robo-Quack) from Empire Strikes Back, this figure is a must-have for me. I do hope Hasbro gives us a way to get more of the chopper droids, because I only got one during its original release.

Obi-Wan Kenobi: Nothing special whatsoever. Notice the uneven paintjob from his head to his neck. I wonder if they'll fix that. Even if they do, this figure is a PASS, and it will definitely pegwarm.

Anakin Skywalker: I never acquired the Evolutions Anakin, so I will definitely be buying this figure to replace my ridiculous 'Saber-Attack' Anakin.

Po Nudo: I see a lot of customizing/diorama potential in this figure, so I will probably be getting a few.

Tri Droid: A great surprise! I will need at least four for my Mygeeto bridge diorama.

Panning Droid: It looks very cool, but not the most exciting figure of this wave. It will probably pegwarm after a while.

Overall, this looks like another excellent wave!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedipurge on November 2, 2007, 05:05 PM
With all the all new version of Gree I'm hoping we get a new clone head---that hopefully we get him with a different hair cut like www.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Faie.  But since the Elite troopers helmet doesn't come off and Gree does I'm kind of hoping for a semi blend of the 2 characters.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: I Am Sith on November 15, 2007, 02:27 PM
(http://www.sirstevesguide.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/1360.jpg)

Is the body suit supposed to be grey on this trooper?  Looking at the movie recently I could swear it's the standard black body suit.  Do I need a new TV, or has Hasbro gotten it wrong?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on November 15, 2007, 06:23 PM
They are getting it wrong....sigh, again.


And is it me or does it seem like the helmet is wrong. The visor looks off kilter adn still too much like the Biker Scout.

Gawd, I'm glad this will be my last big army builder. I'm done with it after that. Just squads for me (5 figs) of troop type figs.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on January 26, 2008, 02:41 AM
Someone over at RS found this wave at Walmart.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 26, 2008, 02:56 AM
****...  I'm still tracking down coin figures...  Not relishing the idea of stand figures being out.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on January 26, 2008, 09:46 AM
It doesnt surprise me. I am glad i done with the coin album, those last waves were tough, I still have not seen 7.5 at retail.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 26, 2008, 01:29 PM
Agghhhhh!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on January 26, 2008, 10:14 PM
Someone over at RS found this wave at Walmart.
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in the states or canada?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: DSJ™ on January 26, 2008, 10:22 PM
Sacramento, CA  (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hasbro30th&Number=2987385&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=5) I believe.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on January 26, 2008, 10:44 PM
so much for canada getting wave one first...hasbro really doesnt give two ****s about us up here.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CaptainYoda on January 26, 2008, 11:05 PM
A local Wal-Mart here in the OC (Orange County, CA) had some of this wave. I picked up the Po Nudo and 2-1B. They were in those cardboard trays packed with wave 7.5 and 8 figures. Including the McQ Rebel Trooper, Hawkbat Clone, Jango. I did not see the Mustafar droid, Kashyyk trooper or the Tri-Droid. The ones that did have from wave one, they had one of each.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 27, 2008, 02:21 AM
Capt. Yoda, did they have coins (the repacks) or stands?  Just curious...  I still need Pax Bonkik's coin and Holo Vader's coin.  Saw some 7.5 the other night, but of all things they were the ones people just sent me coins for the other day. :)  Not the odder figures int he lot like Pax, or the red naboo guy, or Vader.  You'd think they'd be the tougher scores.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on January 28, 2008, 09:52 AM
I was just checking out a Gallery of Wave 1 (http://www.swactionnews.com/photogallaries/PTAC.html) that SW Action News has up, and it looks like the Anakin must have new hip articulation - or could the previous Evolutions version do that?  I don't remember I guess.  Looks like a nice wave overall, hopefully it starts hitting more widespread soon (although the break has been nice).
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on January 28, 2008, 10:11 AM
it looks like the Anakin must have new hip articulation - or could the previous Evolutions version do that?  I don't remember I guess.

I thought I heard somewhere along the line (Q&A, convention, early pics, someplace ???) that both Obi-Wan and Anakin were not straight repacks but had been retooled to add a new waist area that allowed both figures to have ball jointed hips so they could do the splits like that...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CaptainYoda on January 28, 2008, 11:21 AM
Capt. Yoda, did they have coins (the repacks) or stands?  Just curious...  I still need Pax Bonkik's coin and Holo Vader's coin.  Saw some 7.5 the other night, but of all things they were the ones people just sent me coins for the other day. :)  Not the odder figures int he lot like Pax, or the red naboo guy, or Vader.  You'd think they'd be the tougher scores.


Most of them had coins.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 28, 2008, 11:26 AM
Yep, they have B.J. hips.  :P
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2008, 03:04 PM
Any pics you could share?
I am really happy to hear that these are not straight repacks and have real upgrades.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 28, 2008, 05:33 PM
Any pics you could share?
I am really happy to hear that these are not straight repacks and have real upgrades.

Listen and watch the enhanced Star Wars Action News Podcast (http://hhttp://www.swactionnews.com/). They have a segment in this week's episode (#127) detailing the entire first wave for 2008.

Retooled Evo Anakin: (new hip articulation & tabard)
(http://www.swactionnews.com/images/Photogalleries/PTAC/Anakin-loose-2.jpg)

Retooled Pilot Obi-Wan: (new head, hip articulation & tabard)
(http://www.swactionnews.com/images/Photogalleries/PTAC/Obi-loose-2.jpg)

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 28, 2008, 07:38 PM
Whoah! Now that's some articulation!

it's about time they get the hips done right. I know some of the clones had this on them, but lacked articulation in other areas.

I was going to pass on these two before, but now I'm going to have to buy them. This is a MUCH improved upgrade.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2008, 08:01 PM
Yeah, you cannot gripe on that...  at least not too much.  The ultimate Jedi figures for the most part.  Ani's arms are still angle-cut joints, which were fairly limited for poses, but the Obi-Wan's as good as it gets to me.  Hasbro easily gets me to buy these.  I'd have bought htem with "Mustafar Battle Damage" burn marks actually.  The hips are a no-brainer on them though now.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 28, 2008, 08:04 PM
WOW I am more impressed with JJ's super fast response to my request. Many thanks for these outsatnding pictures.

These 2 Jedi are awesome! 2008 has a nice start!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on January 28, 2008, 08:26 PM
now watch next year they will be retooled with ball jointed wrists lmao
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ctonra on January 28, 2008, 08:30 PM
Well I guess that is two more figures i am picking up. I was going to pass on those two and save some money but after seeing those pics. i am getting them.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 28, 2008, 08:32 PM
Jayson posted the pics so I can't take credit. ;D  Great shots showing how improved the figures are though for certain.  It makes me wonder how "improved" 2008 figures may be overall, if wave 1 alone has 3 really SA figures in it like that.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: iFett on January 28, 2008, 09:13 PM
Thanks for the pics Jay!  It's been awhile since I've been able to view stuff you've posted.  Is it just me?   ;)

Looks like there might be a bit of GI Joe action going on with those hips.  Too bad you can't see what's going on under the tabard - I assume that's the skirting?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 28, 2008, 09:18 PM
Too bad you can't see what's going on under the tabard - I assume that's the skirting?

The tabard is actually the plastic part below the waist. Previous versions have had a solid tabard, these new ones are split in the front.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JediJman on January 28, 2008, 09:27 PM
Too bad you can't see what's going on under the tabard - I assume that's the skirting?

The tabard is actually the plastic part below the waist. Previous version have had a solid tabard, these new are split in the front.

So do these guys look like GI Joes under their skirts?  ???  I was never a fan of that style of figure, but I guess I don't mind it here where they've covered it up.  Put me down for 2x of each!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: iFett on January 28, 2008, 09:33 PM
Too bad you can't see what's going on under the tabard - I assume that's the skirting?

The tabard is actually the plastic part below the waist. Previous version have had a solid tabard, these new are split in the front.

Guess I didn't know what tabard even meant  :-[  Plus I don't open my SW stuff as you know...silly wabbit - but thanks for clarifying for me Jay  :)

These were going to be the first two carded figures I was going to pass on in 08, but now I'm second guessing myself.  Looks like I may have to crack open/get rid of some other lines to make more room for 08.

**I have my Cobra Crimson Guard posed exactly as Anakin right now (at least leg wise) and I'd love to post a photo, but I'm on dial-up at the moment.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JediJman on January 28, 2008, 10:05 PM
**I have my Cobra Crimson Guard posed exactly as Anakin right now (at least leg wise) and I'd love to post a photo, but I'm on dial-up at the moment.

They still offer dial-up access?   ???  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on January 29, 2008, 12:30 AM
The only thing thats lacking on the Anakin is the elbows. Other than that both are really supurb figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2008, 01:47 AM
MJ, can you snap any shots "upskirt" on the Jedi to see the new toolings on the legs?  I'm kind of curious how the joints look on these, and if they're better than Luke 2004's were.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on January 29, 2008, 05:40 AM
Just for the record I felt really wrong taking these pics. But here's the "upskirt" view. Sorry the pics aren't that great.

(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/inkedjediknight/obiani.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 29, 2008, 09:08 AM
Got to open an Obi wan, Vader and Lava droid, the SA hip make a world of difference, truly well done. We'll never need another ROTS Obi Wan. I agree with Rob though that Vader could have used better elbows.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on January 29, 2008, 09:13 AM
I am excited for the Lave Droid for soem reason. Other than that the wave doesnt excite me much. I am going to miss the coins.  :-[
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Muftak on January 29, 2008, 09:25 AM
Anyone care to comment on how well the Panning Droid parts work with their respective Jedi? Foot pegs? Stands? etc.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 29, 2008, 12:55 PM
I cannot wait to get these for customs purposes. I hope this is the new staple for all upcoming Jedi. Nice job Hasbro on selling me the same characters again!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on January 29, 2008, 03:45 PM
I cannot wait to get these for customs purposes. I hope this is the new staple for all upcoming Jedi. Nice job Hasbro on selling me the same characters again!

Now I wish I would of gotten a couple more each for customs.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 29, 2008, 03:58 PM

Now I wish I would of gotten a couple more each for customs.

You'll have about 200 more cracks at them, they'll be clogging the pegs until about November.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on January 29, 2008, 04:06 PM
Yeah that is true.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 29, 2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks for the pics...  Interesting.  They look better designed in that "region" than VOTC Luke was, which was what I was hoping for.  I thought the Luke's joints were sort of ugly looking if you could see them.  These look just better designed in general, so that's definitely a positive.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 30, 2008, 09:14 AM
Anyone care to comment on how well the Panning Droid parts work with their respective Jedi? Foot pegs? Stands? etc.

I haven't put my guys on the the droid, but both the droid and the platform have two or more pegs. I'd imagine the tough part would be balancing on both.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: AmanaMatt on January 31, 2008, 02:10 AM
Here's my two cents:

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0172.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0173.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q93/Mattschlo/100_0171.jpg)

Scale is a bit of an issue this round!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 05:06 AM
Interesting stuff...  Hmmm...

Height does seem...  Off.  On the clone anyway.  A droid is what it is, I can sort of blow that off, but the clone's more than a tad disappointing.

The more I look at it, the more it bothers me...  Thanks for the pictures Matt, they really illustrate how off these two are.  The 2-1B droid at the Science Meets Imagination tour is NOT small.  Not that small anyway.  Definitely around average human size, which the original 2-1B wasn't overly large, so I really think that new one's way undersized if they're supposedly the same droid type.  Far worse than the Clone.

however, the Clone's more annoying to me because, well, why the hell is a clone shorter than another Clone.  The biker Scout Sculpt's not absurdly tall or anything, it's right around every Clone-ish type trooper.  So yeah, that figure's pretty small. 

Maybe he's a clone of Commander Cody since, well, his figure isn't exactly winning height contests either.  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 31, 2008, 08:10 AM
Whoa.

Well ****.

That Gree vs. Kashyyyk clone shot really bugs me.  They should be the same height.  How the hell did Hasbro screw that one up?

I can't see myself buying a ton of the Kashyyyk clone now, and it's a damn shame too.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on January 31, 2008, 08:31 AM
maybe its a younger clone?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on January 31, 2008, 08:56 AM
Interesting. I didn't think you could make a normal sized character shorter than the Bikerscout.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: efranks on January 31, 2008, 09:41 AM
Wow.  That Kashyyyk Clone Trooper sucks.  WTF, Hasbro? 

It's like what happend with the Hoth Rebel Trooper in the first wave of Saga 2004, made him way short and small compared to every other figure.  I may pass on this figure just because of that but it's okay because seeing the new articulation on Obi-Wan I may buy him when I'd originally thought I'd be passing on just another re-pack.

I'm thinking with that new Obi-Wan body it's going to be easy to swap in an AOTC or CW-ish head from the other versions that are out and end up with several ultimate versions of Obi...and a bunch of headless bodies.

   E...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Scott on January 31, 2008, 09:50 AM
2-1B is the bigger travesty IMO, there is absolutely no reason he should be so underscaled...the clone is maybe an wee bit short but not a HEAD shorter...that sucks
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on January 31, 2008, 10:38 AM
I got these last night at Walmart... first thing I noticed was how small the 2-1B droid is... but for some reason it doesn't bother me all that much... I guess because the sculpt is so damn good. 


(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/013108one.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/013108two.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/013108three.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/013108four.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/013108five.jpg)

I wasn't able to find a Po Nudo or Tri-Droid yet... didn't see an Anakin either, the one in the pic is the Evolutions version... I did get an Obi Wan at a different Walmart though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: AmanaMatt on January 31, 2008, 10:45 AM
Nice pics! Wow....I never made the front page before - very cool, thanks. Just wished I had focused my 2-1b shot now!!! :)

The Kashyyyk Clone  is still a super cool fig, but the height issue bugs - I will need to see how I can somehow make him a tad taller...

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 31, 2008, 10:50 AM
According to the SW databank (http://www.starwars.com/databank/droid/21b/), 2-1B is 1.5 meters tall (less than 5 feet). So, is this new sculpt more accurate scale wise?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on January 31, 2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah... 1.5 meters is 4.921245 feet.

Either way though I'm not too bothered by it.  It's a great figure...

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/5/50/ROTS2-1bdroid.jpg/250px-ROTS2-1bdroid.jpg)

And the sculpt looks very accurate to me.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on January 31, 2008, 01:20 PM
Regarding the Kashyyyk Clone, the height difference bugged me for all of a few seconds. Looking at the two side by side though, there doesn't seem to be that much more that's different other than the helmet. I'm still going to army build these though. I just wish Hasbro would have gotten it right the first time around or waited another year or so to come out with an updated version. I've already got over 40 of the first ones. I look to get that many of the corrected version as well, but that will be my last big army builder. I was going to hold out for the 501st #41 sculpt clone, but no clear word on that yet. Besides I have plenty 501st between the #6 and AT-TE gunner molds. So I may not build that one up much in the #41 mold.

While the difference in height between 2-1B seems dramatic, it's not like I'm ever going to have them side by side in a scene, so that doesn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on January 31, 2008, 01:35 PM
The scale issue on 2-1B doesn't bother me.  Comparing any of the new stuff to the PotF2 stuff is like apples and oranges.  Is the new one too short or was the old one too big?  I don't care as long as the new one looks cool standing next to Chopper Droid and Med Table Anakin.

The scale issue on the Clone though sucks.  The 2004 Hoth Dude was a good analogy.  I can handle things being out of scale when copmpared to stuff that's 10+ years old, but if the Kashyyyk clone isn't even to scale with other figures in the wave then yeah, that sucks... :-\
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on January 31, 2008, 02:14 PM
I find it a bit surprising the Kashyyyk clone is a bit smaller, but it's not a drastic difference I don't think... once you have a few in a diorama, I think they'll look pretty sweet.

I forgot to mention their waist gear is removable.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 31, 2008, 02:34 PM
I tell ya, when adding the POTF2 2-1B into my ROTJ meeting diorama, I had to cut off his feet and lower legs to get him to look right standing there.  He was way oversized before.  I like that the last few years have seen a size reduction for characters other than Vader and Chewie.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 03:18 PM
These 2 figures do look great but I have to say I like the camo deco ops on the Saga2 Trooper better. The scale is a bit bothersome on him but he looks equal in height to Gree so I hope they do not change it any further. 21-B being smaller is not a bad thing as is most likely more film accurate.

Jeff hit it on the head with POTF2 figures, look at the mitts on most of them, they are so out of proportion. It's Apples to Potatoes, not oranges. This reminds me when we all realized how bad the detail was on the Vintage stuff when compared to POTF2. Now they are laughable.

Will TAC be like this in 10ys?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2008, 03:25 PM
Quote
This reminds me when we all realized how bad the detail was on the Vintage stuff when compared to POTF2. Now they are laughable.

Will TAC be like this in 10ys?

I often wonder the same thing.  Its funny, I can remember being the same way when a friend of mine and I first started picking up POTF2 figures.  We were amazed with how much better they were than vintage.  I can remember the Boba Fett in particular being quite impressive to us, and its funny now looking at that figure compared to the VOTC version.  It doesn't seem like figures can get a whole heck of a lot better than they are now, but I'm sure that we thought the same thing back then.  There are always improvements in paint and all that, so you never know.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ctonra on January 31, 2008, 03:37 PM
in the future we will have life like robotic replicas of the charaters,that are perfect in every way. with voice chips and playset to interact with.

I know, I know i went over the top with the whole playsets statements.

but mark my words if Apes could rule the world in the future then we can get playsets

And where is my flying car!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JangoTat on January 31, 2008, 03:51 PM
in the future we will have life like robotic replicas of the charaters,that are perfect in every way. with voice chips and playset to interact with.

I know, I know i went over the top with the whole playsets statements.

but mark my words if Apes could rule the world in the future then we can get playsets

And where is my flying car!

wasnt there a movie like that..and the toys ended up getting some military AI chip in them and they tried to kill people or something or other toys. I think it was called small army or small soldier. lol yeh i think i like my toys the way they are.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: ctonra on January 31, 2008, 04:01 PM
Yeah
Small Soldiers was the movie name I think
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on January 31, 2008, 04:22 PM
I can remember the Boba Fett in particular being quite impressive to us, and its funny now looking at that figure compared to the VOTC version.  It doesn't seem like figures can get a whole heck of a lot better than they are now, but I'm sure that we thought the same thing back then.  There are always improvements in paint and all that, so you never know.

I have the same memory when I picked up Boba Fett and Luke X-Wing. I was knocked on my ass by Luke's helmet details and Boba's armor scratches. I said it does not get better than that.
Man I was wrong.

I am sure improvements will be made but I think these will hold up longer than the previous series. I will catch up with you on this topic in 10yrs. Sound like a plan?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Daigo-Bah on January 31, 2008, 05:50 PM
I know, I know i went over the top with the whole playsets statements.


Lol, I was with you with the flying cars and intelligent ape leaders, but then you had to go ahead and say Hasbro will make SW playsets.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on January 31, 2008, 08:28 PM
Man oh man, 2-1B is short.  Just opened all my wave 1 loot up and 2-1B just doesn't look right next to Bacta Luke.  I don't really have a problem with the Kasyykk Trooper, but 2-1B... 
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 08:46 PM
I was reading some conversation on this elsewhere...

A point was brought up that, "you can't fault 2-1B because the original figure was made during POTF2 and they didn't care about scale back then", which really isn't a good point in the slightest...  Here's why.

These folks are citing a figure's possible "inaccuracy" based on the timeframe he was released, not the "facts" on what a to-scale 2-1B figure would look like compared to other figures in the line...  Essentially they are using the argument that anything prior to, let's say 1999, is inaccurate because Hasbro didn't focus on accurate figure sizes at that time...

Wouldn't it be smarter though, to say that 2-1B's POTF2 figure could easily be to-scale compared to a VOTC Han, or SA Clonetrooper because the actual droid prop from Empire Strikes back isn't a dinky little thing compared to a normal person?

The prop's on tour with the Science Meets Imagination tour (In Philly this upcoming month I do believe)...  Saw it in person in Columbus myself.  I'm 5'10", not short and not tall, and this wasn't a SMALL piece of prop, let me tell you.  It wasn't big either, but 2-1B seemed to be an average-sized man to me...

I dunno, it just seemed very silly to me that people would so quickly discount POTF2 figures just because, well, they're POTF2 figures...  So clearly they mustn't be the right heigh, eh?   ::) 

But whatever it takes to "accept" the figure's diminutive size, that's fine by me.  I don't honestly consider this droid to be the same model that was in Empire Strikes Back, actually.  To me they were in the same family, but not the same model...  Kind of like an R1 and R2 unit.  So with that, I am not terribly bothered by the height at all with the droid.  So 2-1B's ok to me, if not a little smaller than I would've preferred.

On the Clone, the height difference isn't as bad, but still...  A clone is a clone.  He's shorter than Gree, and I'd guess he's shorter than the basic Clone sculpts like the SA one, or #6 clone, or the AOTC SA one...  That's a little annoying to me, and just a quality oversight on Hasbro's part.  It annoys me with Cody too.  I believe the argument for people to be happy about that issue is that "you can't compare him to the original 41st figure, blah blah blah", but really...  That figure's "average" height, so yeah, you sorta can...  It comes up short, and that's that.

I guess for many it's just easier to cover for Hasbro when they do something wrong because they make the thing you like, so people get "personally offended" or something when you cite there's something wrong with it, but it just seems silly.  Like burrying your head in the sand on it just so you can't see its faults or something.  To each his own of course.

The 41st's such a great figure overall it seems (even removable pouches!), that the height thing really sticks out like a sore thumb more to me now.  They came real close on that one for sure though.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JediTray on January 31, 2008, 09:20 PM
Hasbro = Cheap Ba$tards.

It is most likely a move to save on plastic since it is petroleum-based.  That really sucks.  I'll stick to the POTF2 2-1B.  That's just ludicrous.  Maybe some answers could come from a future Q&A.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 09:57 PM
I honestly don't agree with the issue being a matter of cheapness.  Raw materials that produce SW figures aren't such a delicate balance in the cost scheme...  Plastic's a funny thing.  Many cite it as something that's skyrocketing, and over a great number of products produced it is a more major impact, but shrinking 2 figures here and there really isn't something that would make a financial dent in the overall cost.  Really nothing they would've done would've GREATLY impacted the bottom line short of selling x number of an existing tooled figure, like mixing in a repaint or some such.

Most of the cost-cutting measures are something done across the board, to lessen the financial burden.  Less articulation, less paint applications, etc.  I think these two figures are really just a quality issue no different than a lop-sided leg on Stormtroopers we got throughout 2007, or the design of the Marine's feet so they're a little difficult to stand.  They're just that kind of little thing that's not caught in time, and collectors are stuck dealing with it.

Now, if the line overall went from say a 3.75" to 2" scale, I think you'd see a materials cost impact to the line as a whole (not to give Hasbro ideas, heh), but that's a whole other story.  It's one wave with 2 seeming flaws.  Just like Cody was a little short in 2006, or Dutch Vander's figure is too tall in 2003, I think it's really just a goof on Hasbro's part.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 31, 2008, 10:08 PM
Very true Jess... also if plastic costs were going to be an issue in 08, why go back to the plastic stands rather than continue on with the aluminum coin pack-in?

And just to touch on the 2-1B underscaled discussion. I don't see an issue with it being "underscaled", I look at this figure as the definitive ROTS 2-1B, not the ESB 2-1B.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rots21b.jpg)  (http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rots21b2.jpg)

Edit: The 2-1B in ESB is, to me, a different model altogether model year:

Different color, Different height, Different chest. Different arm. Different figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Diddly on January 31, 2008, 10:32 PM
Hmm... I have mixed feelings about this. 2-1B... I don't know, I thought he was taller, but then again droid height shouldn't matter that much. Troopers, I'm fine with some height differences but Clones are supposed to be the same. I don't know, I'll have to wait and see when I see them in person.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on January 31, 2008, 10:36 PM
I agree with Jayson on it being a completely different character...  A clone is a clone, like I said.  The height's more important because of the character not really changing.  The 2-1B is not the same figure...  If it's comparison is the POTF2 figure, or it's intended to be a resculpt of that, it's not right, but really to me I am in the camp it's a completely different droid series is all, and thus the height doesn't bug me too much.

Part of that probably is that I just don't have a ton of interest in the character/figure either.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on January 31, 2008, 10:51 PM
The 2-1B model in ESB is, to me, a different model altogether: Different color, Different height, Different chest. Different arm. Different figure.

Different height?  Hmm...if you really want to get technical, sure, there's a timeframe difference between a ROTS-era 2-1B and an ESB 2-1B, and as you mentioned, the coloring, chest and arm are different.  But the height?  The droid model is still the same.  Using a different example, you could argue that R2-B1 isn't R2-D2, but it is still the same droid model, regardless of the timeframe difference.  Should R2-D2 be any shorter than R2-B1?  Hasbro scaled this newest version of 2-1B off.  Way off.  2-1B wasn't a munchkin of a droid.  And this newest version of 2-1B is small.       
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on January 31, 2008, 11:09 PM
I think the R2-D2 / R2-B1 example is slightly flawed. What physical/exterior differences, other than color, are there? None.

To clarify my point, let's try this example:
A Chevy Camaro (from 1967) represents the ROTS-era 2-1B and a Chevy Camaro (from 1988) represents the ESB-era 2-1B. The Camaros are the same "make and model", but with drastically different exteriors.

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on January 31, 2008, 11:40 PM
But see, I don't think there's a real difference between a ROTS-era 2-1B droid and an ESB-era 2-1B droid.  Cars change over the years, but droids in the SW galaxy?  There are minor differences (color, detailing) between both eras of 2-1B, sure, but for there to be what seems like a big height discrepency? 

Of course, according to the SW database, 2-1B is supposed to stand about 4 1/2 feet tall.  Didn't seem that short in either movie (ROTS or ESB).       
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: P-Siddy on January 31, 2008, 11:45 PM
I agree with the different models of 2-1B to differentiate the RotS and ESB models and I think Jay's analogy of the Camaros is good.

As for the different sizes of clones, I think one could chalk that up as different ages. Between AotC and RotS, we saw 3 age groups of clones, the Daniel Logan as the young clones, Bodie Taylor as the red jumpsuit trainees, and Temuera Morrison as the older clones we see, like Cody. So I would say the shorter clones are more the younger Bodie Taylor clones.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Scott on February 1, 2008, 12:37 AM
IMO the droids head should be the same size...which should replecate the size of a human head...this figure looks like a pea brain while the POTF2 is at least in scale to the other figures.  Height I can see could be different but not everything else...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 1, 2008, 09:00 AM
The 2-1B's size doesn't bother me at all, it's just a droid. as for the Kashyyyk clone, I'll just have to wait until he's standing in formation with all the other clones.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Daigo-Bah on February 1, 2008, 10:43 AM
I saw this wave last night, and that clone's sculpt looks great.  I can definitely see the frustration you army-building-in-formation guys would have though, but in dio scenes I think he would work out well.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Morgbug on February 1, 2008, 11:17 AM
To clarify my point, let's try this example:
A Chevy Camaro (from 1967) represents the ROTS-era 2-1B and a Chevy Camaro (from 1988) represents the ESB-era 2-1B. The Camaros are the same "make and model", but with drastically different exteriors.

The only problem with your analogy is that the older version of the car is vastly superior to the newer version.  Wait, maybe that's what you were getting at. ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on February 1, 2008, 11:25 AM
To clarify my point, let's try this example:
A Chevy Camaro (from 1967) represents the ROTS-era 2-1B and a Chevy Camaro (from 1988) represents the ESB-era 2-1B. The Camaros are the same "make and model", but with drastically different exteriors.

The only problem with your analogy is that the older version of the car is vastly superior to the newer version. 

As a proud multi-Camaro owner, I totally agree.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Morgbug on February 1, 2008, 12:04 PM
Multi-Camaro  :o  If those are 67-69, color me green with envy.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 1, 2008, 04:04 PM
Quote
But see, I don't think there's a real difference between a ROTS-era 2-1B droid and an ESB-era 2-1B droid.  Cars change over the years, but droids in the SW galaxy?  There are minor differences (color, detailing) between both eras of 2-1B, sure, but for there to be what seems like a big height discrepency?

See, this is where my R2/R1 analogy I believe does hold some water...  They're the same droid, at heart, built at different points in time...  Radical changes made to them though.  You can't tell a camaro from 2000 is supposed to be from the same family as the original really.  R1 is the original, R2 the next, and so on...

However, all that aside, I agree with Scott...  And this goes back to my earlier point about people saying 2-1B (the new one) is properly scaled.  It's not.  If you do a little research on it, you find that out as well.  So I don't get why there's some people saying it is.

The original 2-1B was built off of an average sized mannequin, nothing small framed.  It's on display as I noted in the prop tour going around right now, and it's as tall as, and as wide as FX-7 (also on tour with him).  It's the size and shape of about a 6' tall human male...  It's not "tiny" like that new figure is.

Ultimately, like I said, it just matters to me less on that figure for some reason...  Maybe because, as a droid, I can BS the different model year type argument, or whatever.  It certainly bugs me less than the Clone is all.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on February 1, 2008, 04:21 PM
If you do a little research on it, you find that out as well.  So I don't get why there's some people saying it is.

You can do all the research you want and it still won't matter.

IF you base your arguement on the actual 6' 2-1B prop, then yeah the new one is too small and the old PotF2 one is the "right" scale.

IF you base your argument on the EU stuff written about the 2-1B model (Star Wars Databank Entry), it says he's only 1.5m tall, making him under 5' feet tall and making the new one "correct" and the old one too tall.

It's all in your point of view. You can probably argue either point until the cows come home, but in the end folks will still think their side is "right"...

(cough *blue coat/brown coat* cough)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on February 1, 2008, 04:24 PM
So the new 2-1B is to scale...from a certain point of view...

(http://encyclopedia.wizards.pro/images/3/3d/Obiwankenobi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Oboewan on February 1, 2008, 04:50 PM
But see, I don't think there's a real difference between a ROTS-era 2-1B droid and an ESB-era 2-1B droid.  Cars change over the years, but droids in the SW galaxy?  There are minor differences (color, detailing) between both eras of 2-1B, sure, but for there to be what seems like a big height discrepency? 

Of course, according to the SW database, 2-1B is supposed to stand about 4 1/2 feet tall.  Didn't seem that short in either movie (ROTS or ESB).       

I may have totally missed it and if so I apologize... but:

"Aren't you a little short for a 21-B droid?"
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on February 1, 2008, 04:55 PM

"Aren't you a little short for a 21-B droid?"

2-1B Droid to Vader: Aren't you a little crispy for the most powerful Sith in the galaxy?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Scott on February 1, 2008, 04:55 PM
I don't really care about height, ESB 2-1B didn't even have legs so I'm not sure how they can say how tall he , it's the scale that bothers me.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rots21b.jpg)

The droid head should be the same size as a human head and based on this shot, I think that is still the case.  If you compare POTF2 to a human scaled head, its fine, you compare the new one to a human head, its not...

(http://imaginarycinema.com/images/burton/normal_beetlejuice299.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on February 1, 2008, 11:57 PM
If you compare POTF2 to a human scaled head, its fine, you compare the new one to a human head, its not...

Yes, the new one has a head just like Harry the Haunted Hunter.

We can argue whether or not 2-1B is scaled correctly in terms of height.  But I think the fact remains that the new 2-1B has a huge flaw in the way he is proportioned.  I mean, he shouldn't have a head the size of a pea, should he?   
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2008, 02:44 AM
Quote
IF you base your argument on the EU stuff written about the 2-1B model (Star Wars Databank Entry), it says he's only 1.5m tall, making him under 5' feet tall and making the new one "correct" and the old one too tall.

I didn't even know the Databank listed its height, much less listing it wrong... 

Then again, the Databank lists AT-AT's as 15 meters tall, but the films show them to be at least 20 meters tall...  The same thing is going on with the Executor, which is listed a significantly less length than it actually is portrayed to be in the movies.  Go figure.

Personally, and I agree it's like blue/brown coat arguments, I go with the ACTUAL size of the item...  In this case the droid.  2-1B from ESB was anything but short, so that figure's accurate...  The ROTS one may be smaller, but as Scott posted with the picture, the head at least is too small, and that leads me to believe the rest of the figure is.

The Kashyyyk Trooper still bothers me more...  It's a clone for god's sake, so it shouldn't be shorter than another Clone like Gree or the others.

EDIT:

By the way, I picked these up tonight...  2-1B is kind of cool because the detailing is really nice on him, just such a shame he's dinky.  That said, it seems to me that Anakin got quite a facelift over his previous figure!  Way more than initially thought.

His entire torso is new, and ball/socket articulation now...  His hips are ball/sockets of course, but the torso really is neat, and I must say, they sculpted it so his arms are more able to hold a saber 2-handed now.  Far better than the Evolutions figure is able to, so really it's a major improvement.  His eyes are blue, I find this odd since I thought he had sith eyes for this scenario, but whatever.  It's a really great figure...  I had a gripe on the elbow joints, but the torso fix really makes them more versatile.  Good for Hasbro on that one...  Well worth the re-purchase.  He looks OUTSTANDING on the panning droid too, I must say.

Obi-Wan's nice, but mine's head won't stay on.  He too seems to be mostly resculpted.  The hands seem new, the head, the legs...  The arms and body aren't I guess, but everything else seems to be.  He's not as nice as Anakin, but he is quite nice for his duel on Mustafar.

2-1B is the waves weakest figure IMO...  Which says a lot as, even short, he turned out to be a decent figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on February 2, 2008, 12:12 PM
For some reason the 2-1B is my favorite of the bunch... though I'm a sucker for droids... but, I don't have a Tri-Droid yet, so I'm thinking that will be my favorite when it's all said and done.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on February 2, 2008, 06:17 PM
I don't have a Tri-Droid yet, so I'm thinking that will be my favorite when it's all said and done.

I think you'll find that the Tri-Droid is quite impressive.  It's certainly big. 
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2008, 08:50 PM
Yeah, the pic I saw of the tri-droid with a trooper showed it to be massive by comparison.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: 77Skywalker on February 3, 2008, 10:01 PM
I just picked up Obi-Wan Kenobi and also Darth Vader today.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2008, 11:15 AM
I don't have a Tri-Droid yet, so I'm thinking that will be my favorite when it's all said and done.

I think you'll find that the Tri-Droid is quite impressive.  It's certainly big. 

I'm really hoping so... actually, I think the one I ordered is being delivered today.  I can't wait!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CorranHorn on February 4, 2008, 12:13 PM
I scored most of this wave while out in New England this past week - just missing Gree at this time. Here's my 2 cents on these figures...

Vader: Great to see the Evo ROTS Anakin in circulation on a basic card. They've re-done the paint job to bring out some details, especially in the head. They did however paint the right glove arm brown instead of black. The hip articulation works really nice on this one and I'm definitely going to want to nab another when I get the opportunity. Of course I would have liked to seen ball-jointed elbows, but we all know Hasbro will get to that on the next refresh of this figure - damn them for knowing we'll buy it!

Obi-Wan: Whereas the new hips work well for Anakin, they don't as much for Obi-Wan. For starters the cloth skirt actually restricts some of the movement in my tests (you know, extensive playing with the toy  :P) and the design gives the impression that Obi-Wan is birthing. Add to that an even wider stance than the original Pilot figure and the hip articulation is a bit of a downer here. The head looks ok, but it appears I have a bad one (I'm not the only one from what I've been reading) as the hole in the head for the ball joint is not big enough to accomodate the neck joint. A little fixing will have to be done on my part and no doubt Hasbro will fix this as they did the comic pack Mara last year.

Po Nudo: A nice sculpt, the head looks pretty vicious. He's loaded in the arm articulation but the design of his cuffs at the end of his arm restrict the hand movement. The robes prevent access to the legs, but it's not such a big deal for this type of figure.

2-1B: The sculpt on this one is amazing and he's full to the brim with articulation. The details really stand out nicely, it's a well done figure. The size may be an issue for some, but it's easy to think that this particular model is of a shorter height than say the 2-1B we saw in Empire. A cool droid for sure.

Panning Droid: The detail is ok on this guy, unfortunately he suffers from Hasbro's soft plastic and the legs/arms have already warped. I don't see how the droid itself could stand long if you put Anakin on as intended. The platform is well done, I like the addition of the lava form under it. It's been designed to be modular so if you want to do an extended platform for the duel it's definitely doable.

Tri-Droid: Again we have an issue with soft plastic and an odd design. I couldn't figure out at first how to attach the legs and when I finally did they just didn't snap into place properly. The feet on the legs are made of the typical crappy plastic so it won't be long until this guy is tipped over. With that said, the detail is well done, the sculpt gives this one promise and could definitely fill out the Seperatist droid ranks as long as you don't have an issue with the feet.

Kashyyyk Trooper: The lame one of the bunch in my opinion. I know this is supposed to be a more accurate sculpt, but I prefer the repainted VTAC Biker Scout and as such I'm only going to stick to this one figure. There's nothing really new to this guy and the paint job pretty much sucks, I think the biggest eye sore though has to be the huge backpack he has, it just does not look good.

I did get to see Gree as my buddy picked it up and that does appear to be a good figure. An all new sculpt with the suspenders added for realism and the new hip and wrist articlulation make for a nice fun bonus.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2008, 12:21 PM
Gummy legs on the Tri Droid?  Damnit!  I hope mine stands well enough.  That just sucks because the sculpt looks really good.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: MetalJedi on February 4, 2008, 02:13 PM
I have no problems with the Tri-Droids I purchased. In fact I want more.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on February 4, 2008, 02:13 PM
I have no problems with the Tri-Droids I purchased. In fact I want more.

Cool - good to hear!   8)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on February 6, 2008, 11:49 AM
My Octurapara droid stands just fine... it took a while to figure out exactly how to position the legs, but once I figured it out...

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608droid2.jpg)

(http://www.yakface.com/toyguide/dioramas/chewie/020608droid1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 6, 2008, 02:46 PM
I thought it's sack was supposed to be bigger and more elongated in shape.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Phrubruh on February 6, 2008, 03:03 PM
There is a dirty joke there but I'm not sure what it is.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 6, 2008, 03:20 PM
"that's what she said!"

It applies to so much...

EDIT:

By the way, I moved my post from last night...  It wound up in the wrong thread, so look up if you're interested, it's a couple posts up.  N/M, I'm a doof and screwed up when hurrying...  Check your work, blah blah blah...  Yeah, I suck.  ::)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 21, 2008, 12:49 AM
Finally found Gree out of this wave tonight, and while cool looking and really nicely accessorized, I find the hip articulation a little pointless.  It doesn't really give him that wider a range of motion because the armor does seemingly inhibit it a bit.  Not to say I don't care for it, he's one of the better figures of the way, but it doesn't help him much.

I could maybe see it help him sit on a speederbike type seat better though...  If they go with this improvement on future Clones, I hope they implement that.  It'd be great on a Scout Trooper to be honest.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 27, 2008, 09:01 AM
Got to open up the remaining figure from this wave yesterday, Gree, Kashyyyk trooper, Po, Tri-Droid and 2-1B. Plenty of spot on reviews already, so I'll just add that these were all really well made figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 27, 2008, 04:10 PM
Finally found Gree out of this wave tonight, and while cool looking and really nicely accessorized, I find the hip articulation a little pointless. 

When I opened mine last night I thought the same exact thing. It really is pointless. The leg armor hinders any cool poses. At least the wrist articulation was very nice.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on February 27, 2008, 04:53 PM
Finally found Gree out of this wave tonight, and while cool looking and really nicely accessorized, I find the hip articulation a little pointless. 

When I opened mine last night I thought the same exact thing. It really is pointless. The leg armor hinders any cool poses. At least the wrist articulation was very nice.

I like the articulation myself. It allows for squating poses and he can play dead well.  :P

(http://www.yakface.com/TGuide2004/ActionFigures/tac08/03/lf24.jpg)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Ice on February 27, 2008, 05:53 PM
does his head come off naturally or do have to do some customising? I leave my figures carded sooo....I guess it suck to be a card freak sometimes.. ;D
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 27, 2008, 06:07 PM
You have to open them...you don't know what you are missing.
Free them from their cardboard prisons.....

The head is a ball joint so you have to pop it off but the neck stem is still there. So if you want that off you have to cut it off for real, no going back.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 29, 2008, 12:56 PM
I just got my wv1 figs from HTS.

Tri-Droid: Freakin' outstanding!! Excellent articulation, great sculpt, TALL!!! You definitely get your monies worth with this figure!!
2-1B: Cute little figure... to cute. It could be bigger, but I'll deal with it. Articulation is excellent. However, on mine one leg is shorter than the other. Is it that way on yours too?? This is an above average figure with flaws.
Panning droid: The base is very cool, but should have been bigger as the platform was much bigger in the movie. The droid itself is cool. It calls for one of those clear stands with the small poll to hold it up to make it look like its hovering though. It's an okay purchase for background filler, though I now wish I'd have only bought one. It's good a a single purchase, not so much for multiples.
Obi-wan Kenobi: WTF, I thought his leg joints had that added articulation like the Vader does. I'm disappointed in it because of that. It's essentially the same figure from lat year in that respect. THe only decent improvement is the soft goods skirt which does add some poseability. It's a good figure, but we've seen most of it before. Again now wishing I wouldn't have bought two. The other is up for sale/trade, just PM me.
Darth Vader (in Jedi robes): This would have been the definitive Vader in jedi robes, but for the elbow articulation. Swivel?? What gives. He gets all the best articulation everywhere else but there. Still even with that flaw he's highly poseable. An improvement for sure, just not quite perfect.
Commander Gree: OMG, it's him, it's really him! THIS is the figure Hasbro should have released first for Gree. Hell, if just the deco alone would have been like this one, the first one would have been the definitive one. However this new upgraded version not only beats it in deco, but articulation as well. I don't quite get the wrist articulation. One goes sideways the other goes up and down. Still It's not a complaint, more a "Huh?" If you didn't score the first Gree, this is the one to get. If you did score the first Gree, this new one is STILL the one to get. Cal the previous one his XO (second in command). I have several of that first one, so for me those will be his command staff. (at least until/if Hasbro makes the Turbo tank-then they will be the crew for that instead)
Po Nudo: Well I can't review this one yet. I got a "variant" version, lol. His head popped off in the package and it resting in the area of his "package." It looks kinda funny, so I'm keeping it carded. I'll shoot some pics tonight and post them up later for you all to see. rom what I can tell though the sculpt is good and his head, hands and torso should make for good custom fodder.
Kashyyyk trooper: Ok, first things first...why so soon Hasbro. I could have said that for Gree, but since he's a one time purchase it's cool. The Kashyyyk trooper is an army builder. Some of us are still reeling from the purchases of the first one. Now you make this corrected one so soon and basically make the first ones outdated. Okay now that I got that out of my system...wait one last thing, he's a bit short for a clone trooper... Okay now to the review. Excellent job. Deco is nice, articulation is awesome, you got the RIGHT weaon, even if it's a bit think for him to hold. This is a must buy. I'm only a tad disappointed that I have to rebuild this version of clone trooper, but heck that will just gie me two versions on the armor. I'll call the first one the upgraded armor. Heck the first one was dubbed "elite," so that works. This new one is just the grunt then.

All in all a pretty decent wave. Some parts were stinkers, but the figs over all were pretty darn good and some very good. I'm glad to see the quality of figure is on par or better than previous ones. Kudos Hasbro!

-Sal

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on February 29, 2008, 02:32 PM
I just got my wv1 figs from HTS.

Obi-wan Kenobi: WTF, I thought his leg joints had that added articulation like the Vader does. I'm disappointed in it because of that. It's essentially the same figure from lat year in that respect. THe only decent improvement is the soft goods skirt which does add some poseability. It's a good figure, but we've seen most of it before.

He does have (http://www.yakface.com/2008/PTAChips/04.html) the upgraded hip joints. Maybe yours are stiff.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on February 29, 2008, 04:40 PM
The hips on mine were pretty stiff and hard to move at first.  I had to be real careful or it felt like the peg could easily snap.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 29, 2008, 04:41 PM
I just got my wv1 figs from HTS.

Obi-wan Kenobi: WTF, I thought his leg joints had that added articulation like the Vader does. I'm disappointed in it because of that. It's essentially the same figure from lat year in that respect. THe only decent improvement is the soft goods skirt which does add some poseability. It's a good figure, but we've seen most of it before.

He does have (http://www.yakface.com/2008/PTAChips/04.html) the upgraded hip joints. Maybe yours are stiff.

Well hey, whadda you know! Indeed mine does have the correct hip joints. Thanks for posting that. I didn't try all to hard to move the joints thinking because they didn't move initially that either it didn't have them or that I would break the figure. Cool. Okay my assessment of Obi-wan has changed! It's an excellent figure.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on February 29, 2008, 09:11 PM
Okay, my camera is acting strange, so I had to scan this in. Sorry for the poor quality, but it's a carded figure on a scanning bed, so it's the best I can do.
It's headless Po Nudo, with a strange "package" attachment... lol
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/2300620115_f8c91e9b5f_b.jpg)

Now you can see why I don't want to open this one.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: David on February 29, 2008, 09:16 PM
That's cool, neat score!  :)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: evenflow on March 1, 2008, 02:22 PM
Thats pretty funny.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 1, 2008, 02:28 PM
Now both heads are in the same spot.

That's head imbalance.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Kendo Benobi on March 4, 2008, 09:54 PM
Someone may have already posted this but has anyone figured out how the panning droid "connects" to the platform. I am not an engineer and I can't make it work.

Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on March 4, 2008, 10:06 PM
I have yet to pick this figure up but the Panning Droid "arms" plug into 2 holes (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TAC/TAC0808panning2.jpg) in the lava - not the platform itself.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Nicklab on March 4, 2008, 10:43 PM
Someone may have already posted this but has anyone figured out how the panning droid "connects" to the platform. I am not an engineer and I can't make it work.



I just worked this out myself last night.

The two arms that are not being used to hold the lava cauldron can swing forward to plug into the lava.  The platform will lift off of the lava base, and you'll find two slots that are intended for those two arms to plug into.  Plug those in, then replace the platform and the Panning droid and lava mining platform are effectively one unit.

If my explanation isn't clear enough, check out the small photo on the figure blister.  It shows how the pieces integrate.  But the way I set mine up looks a good deal better than the RS image.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Ook on March 5, 2008, 04:57 AM
Why does Gree have two cannisters? ???

(http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC/TAC0803greeBK-tn.jpg) (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/TAC/TAC0803greeBK.jpg)

They've sculpted one onto the back of his armor in addition to the one on the belt.

I also noticed that they turned the belt rightside up this time. I wonder if they originally designed the belt to fit the #41 body in the upside down position by mistake? Something's seriously impeding Gree's ability to bend his waist forward and back... I can't tell if it's the extra canister or the fit of the belt...?
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jayson on March 5, 2008, 06:35 AM
A few clones in ROTS had multiple canisters attached to their armor, Gree being one of the them.

Here is a shot of the Coruscant Clones from ROTS. There are at least 5 different armor "kit" configurations.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rotsclones1.jpg)

#1 has the 2 canisters
#2 has one canister and an Antenna attachment (think #41 black antenna accessory)
#3 has some sort of black piece attached above the canister
#4 has some sort of black piece attached above 2 canisters
#5 is hard to tell what's going on back there but there appears to be 1 canister up on the back by the neck
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Kendo Benobi on March 5, 2008, 07:02 AM
Someone may have already posted this but has anyone figured out how the panning droid "connects" to the platform. I am not an engineer and I can't make it work.



I just worked this out myself last night.

The two arms that are not being used to hold the lava cauldron can swing forward to plug into the lava.  The platform will lift off of the lava base, and you'll find two slots that are intended for those two arms to plug into.  Plug those in, then replace the platform and the Panning droid and lava mining platform are effectively one unit.

If my explanation isn't clear enough, check out the small photo on the figure blister.  It shows how the pieces integrate.  But the way I set mine up looks a good deal better than the RS image.

THANKS! The trick was getting his arms going in the right direction. I was looking for slots in the base.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Ook on March 5, 2008, 07:32 AM
A few clones in ROTS had multiple canisters attached to their armor, Gree being one of the them.

Here is a shot of the Coruscant Clones from ROTS. There are at least 5 different armor "kit" configurations.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rotsclones1.jpg)

#1 has the 2 canisters
#2 has one canister and an Antenna attachment (think #41 black antenna accessory)
#3 has some sort of black piece attached above the canister
#4 has some sort of black piece attached above 2 canisters
#5 is hard to tell what's going on back there but there appears to be 1 canister up on the back by the neck

Wow. Who knew they varied so much...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 5, 2008, 10:08 AM
A few clones in ROTS had multiple canisters attached to their armor, Gree being one of the them.

Here is a shot of the Coruscant Clones from ROTS. There are at least 5 different armor "kit" configurations.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/rotsclones1.jpg)

#1 has the 2 canisters
#2 has one canister and an Antenna attachment (think #41 black antenna accessory)
#3 has some sort of black piece attached above the canister
#4 has some sort of black piece attached above 2 canisters
#5 is hard to tell what's going on back there but there appears to be 1 canister up on the back by the neck

Good call and way to look out!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Diddly on March 7, 2008, 12:12 AM
Finally saw my first sighting of this wave today. There was no Gree or BARC but at least one of everything else. I almost bought the Anakin and Obi-Wan but ultimately decided against it. Ball jointed knees aren't enough for me to pay $7.50 for figures I already have multiple versions of, especially when all I do is stand them on a shelf. I almost bought Po Nudo (sp?) and 2-1B but the paintjobs on all of the Po faces were awful and all of the 2-1B's were warped due to the cheap plastic it looks like Hasbro used on it. No interest in the droids. (I'll pick up the Tri-Droid or whatever it is in the Mygeeto battle pack)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on March 7, 2008, 04:25 PM
Looks like this whole wave (including Gree and the Kashyyyk Trooper) are currently in stock at HTS.  Get 'em before they're gone!
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Kendo Benobi on March 7, 2008, 10:41 PM
I wasn't too jazzed about this wave when it was first uncovered/announced because I am tired of all of the Clones. (I know, I may have to switch to GI Joe or another hobby this fall.)

But, the Kashyyyk Trooper may be my favorite of all the Clone Trooper variations. It looks cool.  There I said it. Can't believe one the Clones is one of my favorites in any category. Gree is also not half-bad. I just found the entire wave at my local Walmart (and what's up with McFigures??? I counted 8 Snowtroopers and at least 6 Rebel Troopers on the pegs next to the couple dozen Moff Jerjerrods collecting dust.)

And did they actually try and make the whole Anakin-Obi-Panning Droid-Platform work? Nice try though. Individually you can imagine what they might look like together.

Another separatist. (At least it wasn't a third Clone.)

Some more droids. (Teenage 2-1B???)

Not too shabby overall.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: jedi_master_sal on March 8, 2008, 12:14 AM
Looks like this whole wave (including Gree and the Kashyyyk Trooper) are currently in stock at HTS.  Get 'em before they're gone!


They are still up. I sure as heck wish we could buy more than 1 Kashyyyk trooper at a time. That's the only one I need to get more multiples from this wave.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Force Guy on March 8, 2008, 11:31 AM
I'll pick up the Tri-Droid or whatever it is in the Mygeeto battle pack

The Tri-Droid is my personal favorite of the bunch.  I highly recommend picking one up.  The 2-1B sculpt would've been great if it wasn't for the fact that he was severely vertically challenged.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 9, 2008, 10:05 AM
I don't know if it matters to you Diddly, but in case you didn't know, the Tri-droid in the BP is a repaint.

I'm right there with you FG, the Tri-droid is a highlight of the wave for me.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Diddly on March 9, 2008, 01:56 PM
I don't know if it matters to you Diddly, but in case you didn't know, the Tri-droid in the BP is a repaint.

Didn't know that, I suppose that two good recommendations are enough for me to snag it next time I see it...
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2008, 02:25 PM
I love the Tri-Droid too Force Guy and it might be my favorite...  I do like the wave overall though.  Ani/Obi are a nice upgrade and that's my favorite sequence of Episode 3, so they really are nice figures to have.  I think I slipped a Q to Hasbro in our Q&A for those exact figures, even with the stands, but I hoped for more of a burnt deco to the outfits...  Oh well.

The Gree's really nice too...  Kashyyyk Clone is nice but his size...  I think I'd label Gree pretty much "perfect" out of the wave, and the only one who is so, so he's likely what I consider the best.

What gets me about the Tri-Droid, and I love it, but the legs do bow over time.  I've got about 5 of them now and they're all bowing a little.  It's frustrating but that's life with some of the figures I guess.

2-1B is easily the weakest of the lot...  I was watching ROTS the other day on skinemax and it's really clear that even the 2-1B in ROTS is as tall as Palpatine at least, as they're clearly in the same shot and not a long distance away from one another.  It's a shame he's such a tiny figure now because he's not a bad figure besides his scale.

So, to summarize... 

-Every Figure has one problem, most are minor though...  Obi's head, ANakin's elbows, Trooper's height, Tri-Droid's bowing...

-2-1B sorta blows because he's dinky.

-Po Nudo is a freak.

-Cmdr. Gree is probably the best overall execution of a figure in the wave.  Tri-Droid is just a hulk though, and that gives him cool points to me, and he's probably my favorite of the wave for that.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on March 10, 2008, 09:35 AM
I was kind of surprised to find this entire wave at Target this weekend.  I picked up a Gree and another Kashyyyk Trooper, so I'm all caught up on this wave now.  I haven't had a chance to open them up yet (Gree was the only one I was missing before), but they look pretty good.  Although it is a bit small-ish, I really do like the sculpt and everything of the Trooper otherwise (same goes for 2-1B - nice figure, just too small).  Agreed on the Tri-Droid, that's another figure that feels like you're really getting your money's worth from the basic figure line (much like Yoda w/Kybuck and others from last year).
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: CHEWIE on March 10, 2008, 10:58 AM
Yep, the Tri-Droid is amazing.  I've picked up three of them so far, passed on a few more.  Actually his size is keeping me from getting more - I'm just straight up out of room to display these!   :-\

I also agree with you Force Guy about 2-1B... when I first got the figure, the height didn't bother me at all.  But now it does for some reason.  As a result, I've only bought one.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Ook on March 18, 2008, 05:49 AM
I got the panning droid today and I'm having a blast with him! :D He's a really fun little guy. I like his coloration/deco and all his little arms. This is stellar accessory set as display stands for Anakin and Obi-Wan, but the droid himself is a neat figure, too. I'm definitely getting a second to set beside the Mustafar playset's lava pool, to mine ore with the miner guy. I love how all 4 of the pieces, the droid, bucket, platform and lava all interact. I dug out Mustafar and spent much of the evening trying out all the possibilities. ;D LOL I had forgotten the legs attach to the lava, and just a minute ago tried out that set-up on my desk. I actually managed to get A & O into a pretty decent fighting pose right on top of it:

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd14/sergeant_ook/Toys/mustafar_duel001.jpg)

I have a question for those who bought the '08 Anakin: Is the torso exactly the same as the original Evo? Is his windpipe still so bloody big it limits the posability of the head??
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 18, 2008, 09:30 AM
Took a while, but I'm finally done with this wave. I'm surprised there wasn't a revision case with two Kashyyyk troopers per case.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Jeff on March 18, 2008, 09:51 AM
I'm surprised there wasn't a revision case with two Kashyyyk troopers per case.

There is (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS87500K3).  ;)
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 19, 2008, 09:26 AM
Alright then! Doesn't help me, but glad to know it'll help others.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Brian on March 19, 2008, 09:41 AM
Just a quick side-note - the Wave 1 figures that I found at retail didn't have the Rex stickers, but I got a couple via HTS late last week (Gree and a Trooper), and both of them did include the sticker and offer.  Nice to know that they aren't just packed in with the older Legends figures.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on March 20, 2008, 09:41 AM
That's interesting. I didn't know basic figures were supposed to have them at all.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Ook on April 1, 2008, 07:59 PM
Finally laid hands on my first Kashyyyk soldier today, and I'm quite impressed! ;D

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the color scheme on the Order 66 camo clone trooper ends up looking pretty decent when placed next to the scout guy.
Title: Re: 2008 Wave 1 - Revenge of the Sith
Post by: Darth_Anton on April 2, 2008, 09:31 AM


I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the color scheme on the Order 66 camo clone trooper ends up looking pretty decent when placed next to the scout guy.

Yes they do. I have a squad of each next to each other awaiting photo's.