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Title: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on October 30, 2007, 09:00 AM
Another season is upon us.  Who will challenge the Spurs this year?  Will they finally get the "repeat" that has so far eluded them?  Or will this be the year that Dallas or Phoenix gets past them?  Now that Boston is relevant again, do their three stars have enough to get them to the Finals?  Where will Kobe end up?  Tip-off is tonight!
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on November 1, 2007, 07:35 PM
just 81 more W's for the mavs perfect season.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on November 2, 2007, 02:32 AM
As a Laker fan I just wish they would resolve the whole Kobe situation as soon as possible.

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Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 9, 2007, 12:50 PM
Another season is upon us.  Who will challenge the Spurs this year? 

Ron Artest.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 9, 2007, 12:51 PM
Caption that pic.

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071107/capt.dd7a5fe5e43d4b1289b9f00ded6b7145.nuggets_knicks_basketball_nyjj106.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 7, 2008, 08:48 AM
Can any of you Association fans out there explain to me how Gerald Wallace (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3533) went from 2.1 blocks in 2005-2006 to 1.0 or less since then?

What is this, some kind of injury that affects his shot-blocking, but not his offense, that's been 1.5 years in duration?

He hasn't been the same since that rap he took on the noggin' in the opening weeks of last season.

 ???
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on January 7, 2008, 09:38 PM
Before that season his highest blocks was 1.3, it also coincided with the injury to Emeka Okafor.  Now with Emeka healthy there's less shot blocking opportunities. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 8, 2008, 01:30 PM
Before that season his highest blocks was 1.3, it also coincided with the injury to Emeka Okafor.  Now with Emeka healthy there's less shot blocking opportunities. 

Well, that's probably the best theory going. 

It definitely makes more sense than a rap on the ol' cranium causing him to stumble around confused and delerious on defense.

It just seems that Okafor, a Center, would be covering the 7' types, while G-Wall should have just as many opportunities blocking shots on the SF-SG types that are easier to block.  His minutes are also at career highs.

Your theory seems to make more sense in terms of offense, where he would get more shots with Okafor being out.  I'm not sure it translates into defensive shot-blocking opportunity. 

But maybe it does.

Neal?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on January 8, 2008, 11:51 PM
Who knows.  Maybe he was on HGH that season.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on January 14, 2008, 10:09 PM
Nice night by Wallace tonight :o

Celtics lose yet again.  Looks like the beast of the east is a wee bit more than mortal now.  Bored?  Disinterested?  Overconfident?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 15, 2008, 06:13 PM
Nice night by Wallace tonight :o


He went buck nutty.  How's this for a line:

54% FG  40 PTS  4 treys  8 REB  5 AST  2 STL  2 BLK


Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on February 1, 2008, 03:37 PM
Looks like the Lakers are getting Gasol. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3226203)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on February 1, 2008, 03:56 PM
I would say that's a pretty good deal for the Lakers, although Kwame has become a decent enough player out there - he's nowhere on the level of Gasol.  Once Bynum gets back from injury, that's a pretty nice front line.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 1, 2008, 05:29 PM
That makes the Lakers instant contenders - they could easily win a championship this season.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on February 6, 2008, 02:42 AM
Shaq to the Suns for Marion and Banks. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Anuto3CDAhvMGF3rnO0cIBG8vLYF?slug=jy-shaqdeal020508&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) ???
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on February 6, 2008, 09:17 AM
Yeah, that's definitely a trade I didn't imagine happening.  It seems a little strange from the Phoenix side.  I mean, I know they traditionally have trouble with the West's bigs come playoff time, and I do think the Lakers-Gasol trade made some of the west teams a little antsy, but it will be interesting to see if/how Shaq can fit in with the running Suns.  From what reports are saying, Shaq and Marion are both open to the move.  I've never quite understood why Marion wants out of PHX so badly, aside from not being the big cheese.  He makes all-star teams, plays on one of the best teams in the league - with title shots each year, and from what I understand is pretty well paid (due $17 mil next season unless he opts out).  Oh well, have fun in Miami Shawn :).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on February 6, 2008, 09:58 AM
Please, please, PLEASE let these rumors be true.  I'd love to see Wade and The Matrix play together.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 6, 2008, 02:22 PM
Just what the **** are the Suns doing?

This looks like an incredibly, horribly, lopsided deal.  What happened, did Marion just refuse to take the court again?

This is beyond comprehension.  That's all I can muster in terms of commentary about this deal.  This is simply beyond comprehension.

Shaq's missed 83 games over the past 3 seasons to a host of injuries, and he's garnering Shawn Marion, one of the top 10 players in the game?  Shaq's 36 years old.

Someone tell me what I'm missing here.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on February 6, 2008, 02:38 PM
I"m with you on this one.  Makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on February 7, 2008, 06:15 PM
i think both players were to the point of laying out on their teams.  shaq and marion were having career lows.   i don't know if it will push phoenix into being realistic contenders, but i don't think they are really worse for the deal, and miami definitely got better.

shaq might not seem like a good fit, but i guarantee dallas, san antonio and la will be watching with great interest to see how this works out.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on February 13, 2008, 05:51 PM
What in the hell is wrong with teams?

Jason Kidd and Malik Allen from New Jersey to Dallas in return for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, DeSagana Diop, Devean George and Maurice Ager

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 13, 2008, 06:47 PM
What in the hell is wrong with teams?

Jason Kidd and Malik Allen from New Jersey to Dallas in return for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, DeSagana Diop, Devean George and Maurice Ager



Don't forget the draft picks to NJ.

What did you find unbelievable about the deal?
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on February 13, 2008, 07:25 PM
What in the hell is wrong with teams?

Jason Kidd and Malik Allen from New Jersey to Dallas in return for Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, DeSagana Diop, Devean George and Maurice Ager



Don't forget the draft picks to NJ.

What did you find unbelievable about the deal?

this deal would really have to throw the mavs into a spiral for the draft picks to matter.  other than a little blind luck, the 29th pick in the draft usually doesn't pan out.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on February 13, 2008, 09:17 PM
5 Nobodys for Jason Kidd...sounds like Devan George blocked the deal anyway
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 13, 2008, 09:23 PM
5 Nobodys for Jason Kidd...sounds like Devan George blocked the deal anyway

Well, I think the Nets wanted the 2 draft picks and PG Devin Harris.  They're not gonna win a title with Kidd and are looking to rebuild.  Even the Mavericks were playing Harris to make him the PG of the future, but when Kidd became available, and with Gasol bolstering the Lakers and Shaq in theory bolstering the Suns, the Mavs wanted to take a shot now.

I don't see it as bad as the Marion-Shaq deal, but I think Kidd may have been worth a little more.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on February 13, 2008, 10:09 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong, I agree its nowhere near as bad as the Shaq deal.  Its just frustrating that the Wolves tried at least 3 times in the last 3 years to get Kidd and they agreed to that deal...I'm just pissed
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 14, 2008, 11:59 AM
I'm still marveling at how Devean George had the ability to block a trade for Jason Kidd.

Here's a guy averging 14 lousy minutes with 3 PPG avg. on 36% shooting.  He's 30, he's not exactly going to improve and start tearing up the league.

You have to think this deal is gonna get done with or without George.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on February 16, 2008, 11:18 PM
Just when I thought I had seen everything there was to see in the Dunk Contest ... along comes Dwight Howard.  Holy ****!
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on February 18, 2008, 12:44 PM
Yeah, I really enjoyed Dwight Howard's dunks.  He's fun to watch.  I thought he should have won last year really, as his dunks were more impressive than what I saw from the other contestants.  Its nice to see players like Howard actually coming up with something new again.  Now if they could put more than four contestants in it, or find a way to get some of the other "big names" to be in it, it would be even more entertaining.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on February 20, 2008, 01:56 PM
Sounds like Shaq will play tonight (against the Lakers) for the first time as a Sun.

I don't think this will play out like the Suns have hoped but we'll see.

BTW, when did the All-Star game become a cable only event?

The last time I watched the All-Star game it was on 'free' TV.



Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on February 20, 2008, 03:11 PM
I'm interested in seeing how the Shaq thing works out for the Suns as well, we'll see.  It sounds like Kidd is set to make his debut for the Mavs as well.  Although I understand the "hoopla" over it, I'm not sure it really improves their chances making it out of the West that much.  I guess, before last night, I didn't even realize that Mike Bibby had gotten traded to the Hawks.  I guess with all the All-Star and Kidd headlines, that was kind of below the radar.  It will be interesting to see if there are any more big names traded before Thursday's deadline.

On the All-Star game, I don't remember for sure but I think its been on TNT for at least the past three seasons, but maybe longer than that.  It is kind of sad that it isn't on "free" TV anymore, as I think all of the other major sports All-Star games are, but I guess they figure that pretty much everyone has at least basic cable at this point (which isn't always true).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on February 20, 2008, 03:30 PM
We don't have TNT, we get a TBS feed instead on our cable, so I couldn't watch either.  Went looking and didn't find it.  At least the dunk contest was on ESPN.  I really don't like watching NBA anymore at all, but at least the All Star game is supposed to be show and rules don't apply.  Gimme college any day.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 20, 2008, 04:36 PM
I'm interested in seeing how the Shaq thing works out for the Suns as well, we'll see. 

I picked them to win it all last year, and the team that (cheated) and eliminated them in the semis wound up winning instead.

In the long run, I think losing Marion was very bad.  But for this year, Shaq could put them over the hump and I'm going to pick the Suns to win again this year (assuming health of course)

PG Nash
SG Bell
C  Diesel
PF Amare
SF Hill

That's the best, most well-rounded attack in the NBA.  We'll see how this plays out, but I've got the Suns as champs.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on February 20, 2008, 04:49 PM
i haven't heard many suns as champs predictions this year.  actually the big 3 SA, Dallas and Phoenix don't even seem to be the favorites.   you would have to be stupid to ignore them, but i guess its just more exciting to talk about LA and NO.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on February 21, 2008, 01:33 PM
Hell of a game last night by the Suns and Lakers.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 21, 2008, 11:19 PM
Hell of a game last night by the Suns and Lakers.

Shaq looks like he did back in the Magic days, he hasn't looked that good in years.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on February 22, 2008, 11:10 AM
Oh, I wouldn't go that far, but he did look really good.  I'm glad to see that he gave that kind of effort earlier this year when he was healthy enough to be on the court with Miami. 
That's the one thing that has ALWAYS rubbed me the wrong way with Shaq.  His level of effort is laughable.  He only gives his all when he's called on it and he feels that he has something to prove.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on February 25, 2008, 11:31 AM

Shaq looks like he did back in the Magic days, he hasn't looked that good in years.

He looked even better yesterday with seven points and 1 for 8 from the FT line.

Without Shaq, the team would've lost by 32 instead of 30.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on February 25, 2008, 12:19 PM
Oh, I wouldn't go that far, but he did look really good. 

I was alluding to his physical appearance.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on February 25, 2008, 07:53 PM
Oh, I wouldn't go that far, but he did look really good. 

I was alluding to his physical appearance.

Oh ... OK.  Gotcha.  In that case, yes.  He looks to be in pretty decent shape.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on March 2, 2008, 09:47 PM
Great game between the Mavs and Lakers.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 10, 2008, 01:52 PM
D. Waaaahhhde girled out as usual and will miss the rest of the season while his vagina heals.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on March 10, 2008, 02:01 PM
Man, that's going to ruin their playoff chances.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 10, 2008, 04:55 PM
Man, that's going to ruin their playoff chances.



Their playoff chances were about as likely as the Knicks'.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on March 10, 2008, 05:00 PM
Ya think?

 :-*
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on March 17, 2008, 12:39 AM
22 in a row for the Rockets.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on March 18, 2008, 06:56 PM
22 in a row for the Rockets.



they are playing the celtics tonight.  it should be a pretty good test.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on March 21, 2008, 10:47 AM
22 in a row for the Rockets.



And now, two big losses in a row (to Boston and New Orleans).  On a side note, the Celtics are playing great, sweeping the Texas trip of Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio (and going 6-0 against them for the season).  I hope this is their year, I'd really like to see Garnett get a ring.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Darth_Ice on March 25, 2008, 08:27 AM
22 in a row for the Rockets.



And now, two big losses in a row (to Boston and New Orleans).  On a side note, the Celtics are playing great, sweeping the Texas trip of Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio (and going 6-0 against them for the season).  I hope this is their year, I'd really like to see Garnett get a ring.
Byant,Gasol,Bynum,Odom,Fisher..just might have something to say about that prediction..and oh a super head coach with the name Jackson..
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on March 25, 2008, 06:25 PM
the Celtics are playing great,   I hope this is their year, I'd really like to see Garnett get a ring.

i kinda hope not.  i hate it when a team buys a ring instead of developing a team.  i also hate it when players jump ship instead of trying to make your team better.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on March 26, 2008, 09:53 AM
Quote
i also hate it when players jump ship instead of trying to make your team better.

I see your point about buying a ring, but to be fair about "jumping ship", I think that Garnett has tried to do the best he could with what he's had alongside him in Minnesota in his career.  Plus, he seemed to always do it and just keep quiet - never "demanding a trade", when he could have done that a number of times.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: john todd on March 29, 2008, 03:04 PM
i will agree that he tried in Minnesota.  but, i hate it when players like payton and malone and barkley start jumping around at the end of their careers to try to get a ring instead of sticking with the teams and fans that cheered for them for all the years whether they won it all or not.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 15, 2008, 01:05 PM
Separated at birth?

LL Cool J:

(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_wQ4ARIMyIAoNCjzbkF/SIG=132j9h27f/EXP=1208365456/**http%3A//content.clearchannel.com/Photos/musicians/ll_cool_j/ll_cool_j_3MKTG.jpg)

Carmelo Anthony:

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080414/capt.6b1af2282e4a42bdb216de9911c1cd3c.nuggets_anthony_dui_basketball_codz103.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on May 5, 2008, 10:02 AM
So....anyone else think sitting your starters for three weeks at the end of the season is a good idea?  Hello, Celtics, yer lucky. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on May 6, 2008, 10:43 AM
No love for the NBA?  Detroit and New Orleans out to 2-0 leads?  Can New Orleans win it in their first real go at the playoffs?  I doubt it, but I wouldn't be opposed to seeeing it. 

And no, I don't think Boston is going to beat Cleveland. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on May 6, 2008, 11:12 AM
After going seven games against the Hawks, I have little faith in the Celtics as well.  But yeah, I'm shocked that NO is up 2-0 against the Spurs and I have no idea who the Pistions are playing right now...

I am more interested in the RB situation in Chicago. 

(http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/bensonDrunkmuch.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on May 6, 2008, 11:19 AM
I've been watching as much of the playoffs as I can, the Celtics in particular.  I wasn't enjoying the struggles against Atlanta, but I'm really holding out hope that they can turn things around from here on out.  Its been nice seeing New Orleans continue to play well, even against San Antonio.  I'm not necessarily a Hornets fan, but they are pretty fun to watch.  I'm starting to get concerned that no one can beat the Lakers though, they look pretty tough.  It sounds like Kobe will be winning the MVP award, if reports hold true.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on May 8, 2008, 01:08 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20080508/capt.cps.ncr65.080508095156.photo00.photo.default-341x512.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 10, 2008, 07:22 AM
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-04/20/xinsrc_5f4e4940a3a249ce8e15b8829ff0de4c_a.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on May 19, 2008, 12:47 PM
So happy to see the Celtics win a hard fought game yesterday.  They can quit with the Game 7's anytime though, I don't need the stress :P.  Hopefully they will play well against Detroit.  On the West side, I'm hoping that New Orleans can pull it off - I've seen enough of the Spurs for the past few years.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 20, 2008, 11:44 AM
Let's hope the Celtics don't come up against the Spurs and Robert Horry in the Finals.  Horry will probably chuck Garnett into the stands and incite a bench-clearing brawl and try to get some key players suspended.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on May 20, 2008, 12:12 PM
Could it be a Celtics-Lakers final?  :o 

If Horry does something like that again, or anyone does something like that again, hopefully the league will be intelligent enough to see it for what it is.  I don't disagree with Stern's stance on last year's incident, though it was pretty obvious for what Horry did, he couldn't do much about it.  If it happens again and he hands out the same sort of suspensions, then it's a huge problem. 

At this point I'm looking at Lakers vs Pistons as a prediction with the Lakers taking it in 6.  I'd rather the Celtics win though.  That'd be sweet, if only to rub it in against that guy formerly known as Colman. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on May 20, 2008, 08:13 PM
I'll go the opposite and say Spurs/Celtics.  I think the Spurs can beat the Lakers.  Bowen is annoying enough to somewhat "contain" Kobe, and the Lakers have absolutely no one who can guard Duncan.

As for the East, I think that the Celtics are finally going to lose a game at home, but they're also going to find a way to win a game on the road.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on May 21, 2008, 02:40 PM
I'm kinda shocked to not see Scott commenting on the draft lottery.  The MN legacy continues....
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on May 30, 2008, 02:59 AM
Lakers going to the Finals.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/JayDouble/Internet/7eb5f69c.gif)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 30, 2008, 03:23 AM
LOL

I saw that movie, what was it originally?  I can't remember now.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on May 30, 2008, 06:20 AM
Zoolander
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 2, 2008, 10:56 AM
I have to say it..Go Celtics.  I really hope that KG can get his ring, but it will be tough.  As much as I'm not really a Lakers fan at all, I have to admit its kind of neat seeing a Celtics-Lakers Finals match up again.  Hope its a good one!
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on June 2, 2008, 11:21 AM
I'm going for the celts as well. it would be cool for KG to get his. I'm just glad the spurs didn't go again. they won it too many times in the past few years.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2008, 12:25 PM
It's not the same Lakers-Celtics stuff without Colman around here.   :'(
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on June 2, 2008, 12:51 PM
I'd like to see the Celtics win too.  Does Ray Allen have a ring?

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on June 2, 2008, 02:16 PM
I'm going with the Celtics as well...my well known hate for Kobe, my manlove for KG  etc etc
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 2, 2008, 03:59 PM
I'd like to see the Celtics win too.  Does Ray Allen have a ring?



Nope.

I want the Lakers to win but I think the Celtics will win.  To me the Lakers lack some toughness and I think the Celtics will finally expose it. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 2, 2008, 04:37 PM
I'd like to see the Celtics win but I think it's gonna be the Lakers in 7.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 2, 2008, 06:33 PM
Zoolander

Ha!  Right before the gasoline fight (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3889944325139005442&q=zoolander&ei=onNESJ34A5CqrgKAq7mkCQ).

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on June 2, 2008, 07:57 PM
I'm picking the Lakers as well, but I'll be rooting for the Celtics the whole way.  I'd like to see KG, Pierce, and Allen get a ring. 
The Celtics really have to win both Games 1 and 2.  With the 2-3-2 format of the Finals, they do not want to go to LA tied 1-1 (or worse).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 2, 2008, 10:45 PM
I'm completely rooting for the Celtics but I am very concerned about the Lakers. 

Celtics have had an expectation all season long and that's not good.  Nobody, outside of Jay, mentioned them having a shot during the season.  Kobe's pissed and motivated, Phil's got a desire to prove something and it's a very good, young ball club.  There's not a lot of playoff experience floating around, outside of Kobe, on either team.  I'll be watching and cheering but I'd really like to see the Celtics win so I can mock the hell out of Colman, even in absentia. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 3, 2008, 09:13 PM
I'm completely rooting for the Celtics but I am very concerned about the Lakers. 

Celtics have had an expectation all season long and that's not good.  Nobody, outside of Jay, mentioned them having a shot during the season. 

Well, in the defense of everyone but Jay, it's not like we knew Pau Gasol would be gift wrapped and delivered mid-season.  I don't know how to put this, but, he's kind of a big deal.  People know him.  He's very important.  He has many leather-bound books.  And his apartment smells of rich mohagony.  He's friends with Merlin Olsen too, he comes over, on occasion.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 4, 2008, 03:01 AM
Well, in the defense of everyone but Jay, it's not like we knew Pau Gasol would be gift wrapped and delivered mid-season.  I don't know how to put this, but, he's kind of a big deal.  People know him.  He's very important.  He has many leather-bound books.  And his apartment smells of rich mohagony.  He's friends with Merlin Olsen too, he comes over, on occasion.

You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 5, 2008, 10:50 PM
I think the series just ended.  :-\

Pierce went down and looks to be in a lot of pain.  He didn't break anything, but I'm gonna bet he strained/sprained the medial collateral ligament.  2nd/3rd degree and he's done for the series.  I'm just guessing and haven't seen a good replay yet without a body in the way. 

I don't think they fill that hole in this series.


 ::)  And Pierce comes back in with a sleeve on his knee.  WTF?  You get taken out in a wheelchair and come back with a rubber sleeve on your knee?

Gah :o  Five minutes later Perkins is off to the lockerroom.  At least he was walking.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 5, 2008, 11:56 PM
I'm so confused.  Was that all theatrics?  Guess it worked if it was. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Theo Zissou on June 6, 2008, 12:02 AM
The lakers got Rondo'ed :) seen those commercials? lol

That was a really good game. The way Pierce came back out and hit those 3's. Felt like one of those old laker celtic games.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 6, 2008, 12:03 AM
Lakers got exposed for their lack of toughness inside.  
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on June 6, 2008, 08:49 AM
Was that all theatrics?  

No ... it was adrenaline.  According to reports, Pierce could barely walk after the game.  The trainers have a lot of work ahead of them to get him ready for Game 2.  Luckily for them, it isn't until Sunday.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on June 6, 2008, 07:53 PM
Thought they were playing Sat. night...?

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 6, 2008, 08:31 PM
Nope, Sunday it is.  Stretching it out for whatever reason.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 8, 2008, 11:19 PM
My goodness, the Lakers to need man up they're playing soft.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 9, 2008, 12:17 AM
Man, were the Celtics trying to throw it away at the end? :o  Yes, for 40+ minutes you seemed to be leading by twenty, but ya gotta finish the game boys.  I don't need heart checks like that. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 11, 2008, 12:51 PM
Anyone watch the game last night?  I have no trouble with the result, the Lakers played (a little bit) better than the Celtics no doubt. 

What was amazing was how universally horrid the refs were.   :o  They either completely missed or just let tons of stuff go.  About three and a half minutes to go, the Celtics have the ball and Pierce basically assaults Kobe to get loose.  He gets the ball, Kobe recovers and does foul him and gets called.  Much bitching ensued.  The second call was correct but Kobe was right to complain, I think a common citizen would have been arrested on the street for hitting as much as Pierce did.  Gasol got assaulted a couple of times too.  There were good Laker beatings on Celtics too. 

My point being this could be a really good and enjoyable series, but I hate what the NBA has become.  Basketball is still defined as a non-contact sport.  It was much more reminiscent of Australian rules football last night.  Blech.   
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 12, 2008, 12:29 PM
A friend of mine and I were talking about just this issue yesterday Brent.  We've been watching NBA games together for as long as I can remember, and have always been big fans, but the refereeing is bordering on ridiculous at this point.  Like you mentioned the hammering was going on both ways in much of that game, and the foul calls were wildly inconsistent.  Another thing we discussed is this ongoing trend of the home team generally have two to three times as many free throws as the visiting team.  Some of the announcers have chalked this up to "the home team is more pumped up, so they get to the line more", which seems ridiculous to me.  This seems like a good matchup between Boston and Los Angeles, and I'd rather just see the refs do the job they are paid to do, instead of inconsistently calling fouls or "letting them play".  Pick one way to ref and stick with it, as long as it is consistent.  They shouldn't be a factor in the game(s).

On a bit of a tangent to that, I'm really getting tired of seeing virtually every single NBA player think they never foul.  I might be biased, being a fan, but Kevin Garnett might be one of the few players that I've seen rarely - if ever - argue calls against him.  Other than that, everyone from Gasol to Bryant, to Pierce to Perkins seem to argue or make forlorn faces over obvious foul calls.  I often wonder if while they are watching tape of the game, they're like "geez, I'm an ass, I clearly mugged him".  Anyways, just a mini-rant, its all part of the NBA these days I guess - but its getting old.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2008, 11:50 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 12, 2008, 11:59 PM
Nice collapse by the Lakers.

I think what pisses me off more is the lack of aggressiveness.  The whole reason they had a 24 point lead was they kept cuttting and attacking the rack. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on June 13, 2008, 10:09 AM
I've watched more basketball over the last week than I probably have in the last year...good stuff for sure, especially that collapse/comeback last night.  Surely was the stuff of legend.  I've been pretty pissed off though thinking that there were rumors of Pierce coming to Minnesota instead of the way it went, granted there would have been no equivalent to Ray Allen on the team but it still torques me the wrong way that the Wolves could have been better than they have been

Oh...and if they don't draft OJ Mayo...I'm done with them
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Neal on June 13, 2008, 02:16 PM
Oh...and if they don't draft OJ Mayo...I'm done with them

They may not get a chance to.  There's talk that the Heat may be interested in him at the No. 2 pick.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on June 17, 2008, 01:32 PM
So is tonight the night for Boston?

All signs point to yes.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2008, 02:13 PM
I guess that depends on what the NBA head office decides should happen :-\

Is it more exciting for the Celtics to win at home (it is not the storied Gahden, after all) or is it more exciting for them (or the Lakers) to win in a climactic game 7?   I'm guessing the sentiment for the Celtics big three dictates they get a win, since Kobe already has his and got the MVP, meaning they can be the team of destiny next year. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 17, 2008, 02:43 PM
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I guess that depends on what the NBA head office decides should happen

I used to try to avoid that type of thinking, and hope that the games were as "real" as they should be - but this year, I'm starting to wonder from time to time.  The wildly inconsistent officiating, particularly when it favors "ratings" or big market teams (at times) just adds fuel to the fire.  I told my wife before we watched Game 5 that the Lakers would win.  They weren't going to let a Lakers-Celtics match up get wrapped up that quickly.  I just really hope Boston can wrap it up tonight.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2008, 02:54 PM
I know I'm being overly cynical, but I can't shake that feeling right now.  I should by all rights be ecstatic - it's been a very, very, very long time since the good guys in green won the whole thing.  They've been cursed since Len Bias.  And not that I don't think they don't have the talent to win, I've been impressed by how well Garnett, Pierce and Allen have played.  I think Rondo and Cassell have really stepped up.  Perkins is proving to be an important player too, much to my delight.  But I just can't get over how awful the reffing has been, favoring the Celtics in so many instances.  And it pains me to say that too, because I really do want to see the Celtics win.  I loathe and despise the Lakers and always have.  Yet I'm not convinced they should lose. 

But I guess it's not over yet.  The Lakers could still win.  Even if they do though, I'm still going to have a bad feeling about the season aside from having the hated Lakers win. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on June 17, 2008, 02:56 PM
How obvious was the foul by Kobe on Pierce in the final minutes of Sunday's game?  You know the one where he stole the ball from behind and ran down for the dunk?

Pretty much sealed the game - and was quite obviously a foul.

Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2008, 11:42 PM
Well somebody in the head office has a hell of a sense of humor to humiliate the Lakers like that if this was scripted?   

Well, I'm happy.  Confused, but 22 years of waiting and I'm happy.  Especially to come at the expense of the Lakers, that makes it all the more sweet. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 17, 2008, 11:59 PM
Cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on June 18, 2008, 12:02 AM
Well somebody in the head office has a hell of a sense of humor to humiliate the Lakers like that if this was scripted?   

Well, I'm happy.  Confused, but 22 years of waiting and I'm happy.  Especially to come at the expense of the Lakers, that makes it all the more sweet. 
Does McHale get another ring?

(http://images.publicradio.org/content/2007/01/23/20070123_mchaleone_2.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 18, 2008, 12:06 AM
Probably yes.  But we won't know about it.  But I'm guessing Ainge is buying on the next fishing trip.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: JayDouble on June 18, 2008, 01:43 AM
Lakers got smoked.  Congrats to the Celtics.

Hopefully they meet up again next year with a different outcome.   ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: ruiner on June 18, 2008, 08:27 AM
Just glad the 1998 Bulls held onto their record...though it would have been cool to have Kobe's name in the record book under the largest defeat in Finals history...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 18, 2008, 09:37 AM
It was quite the whoopin last night.  I'm so happy to see the Celtics win the title, and their "Big Three" in particular - Garnett, Allen, and Pierce.  Its nice to see them add a title to their resume.  It was really a fun game to watch I thought (unless you're a Laker fan), because Boston could almost do no wrong.  Nearly flawless basketball played, and watching Ray Allen shoot like that is a thing of beauty.  Congrats to the Celtics, hopefully they can add another one next year before everyone gets too old :).
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: King_Maul on June 18, 2008, 12:03 PM
Congrats to Boston.  Lakers were man-handled last night.  Boston was running on all cylinders and made it look very easy.  I think someone on TV last night said it was more of a coronation than competition.  I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 26, 2008, 11:47 AM
So, is anyone paying attention to the NBA Draft stuff leading into tonight?  It sounds like Derrick Rose is a lock at the top pick for Chicago, but it is still up in the air at 2 (Miami) and 3 (Minnesota).  Michael Beasley and OJ Mayo are the names most often connected to those picks, although there are others.  There also appears to already be a trade sending Jermaine O'Neal to Toronto to play alongside Chris Bosh (TJ Ford heading to Indy is the other principal part of the deal).  Anyways, should be an interesting draft night.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on June 27, 2008, 01:09 AM
Does anyone have a team I can root for?  Kevin McHale can seriously go put his head up his ass and die from suffocation...
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 27, 2008, 03:26 AM
Does anyone have a team I can root for?  Kevin McHale can seriously go put his head up his ass and die from suffocation...

I'd let you in on a piece of the Knicks and Nets over here but...


Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2008, 10:22 AM
Does anyone have a team I can root for?  Kevin McHale can seriously go put his head up his ass and die from suffocation...

Yeah, McHale really doesn't know what he's doing does he?  I mean sure, he got some more "parts" from this deal - and unloaded a big crappy contract, but I think they should have stuck with Mayo.  Sure, its not like they were going to win a championship this season - but they are starting to put together a nice young team (or could have been) with Mayo, McCants, Brewer, Jefferson, etc.  I just don't see Kevin Love turning out to be nearly as good as Mayo in the pros.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Scott on June 27, 2008, 12:17 PM
Except pretty much all three of the last three draft picks are really not living up to anything they were supposed to (McCants, Foye and Brewer especially)

Getting Miller was big and McHale sounds like he wants to have Kevin Love's child if he could...ugh I am just sooooo pissed right now at my team. 
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on June 27, 2008, 12:32 PM
Yeah, he seems quite obsessed with Kevin Love, that's for sure.  You're right, Miller was a nice pick up, and might be the best part of that deal.  I thought Foye was going to be pretty good, but hasn't shown much so far (especially when Brandon Roy was the alternative).  I would have much rather see them keep OJ Mayo though.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Morgbug on June 27, 2008, 03:27 PM
I'd compare him to another former Celtic doing player shenanigans, but an Ainge comparison might be too painful :-X
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 27, 2008, 05:27 PM
Yeah, he seems quite obsessed with Kevin Love, that's for sure.  You're right, Miller was a nice pick up, and might be the best part of that deal.  I thought Foye was going to be pretty good, but hasn't shown much so far (especially when Brandon Roy was the alternative).  I would have much rather see them keep OJ Mayo though.

Well, I'm going to have to wait about 2 years before I grade that trade.  If Love turns out to be better than Mayo plus they got Mike Miller, McHale will be end up being praised instead of hated.  So we'll see.
Title: Re: NBA 2007 - 2008
Post by: Brian on July 2, 2008, 11:57 AM
It looks like we have our first big free agent move of the offseason, with Baron Davis apparently signing with the Clippers.