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Title: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2007, 12:52 PM
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1. Lieutenant Treidum
2. Commander Jir
3. Commander Praji
4. Lieutenant Childsen
5. Lieutenant Tanbris
6. Captain Khurgee
7. General Bob Hudsol
8. Commander Lajaie
9. Commander Willard
10. Del Goren
11. R3-O1
12. R5-K6 (Red Leader's)
13. Rebel Technician
14. Rebel Hanger Technician
15. Generic Blue Symbol Rebel Pilot
16. Gold 3 Ryle Torsyn
17. Gold 5 Davish "Pops" Krail
18. Gold 6 Hol Okand
19. Red 4 John D
20. Red 7 Elyhek Rue
21. Red 8 Bren Quersey
22. Red 10 Theron Nett
23. Red12 Unnamed

This is probably the most difficult scene in the OT to pin down Who Is Left.  Mainly because the entire Briefing/Death Star Battle is filled with unnamed pilots and those that have been named have been switched several times over the last 15 years first by Decipher, then by the Insider and finally by the fine folks at Wookieepedia.  So, what I've settled on is the most recent names as given in Wookiepedia.  I've also listed the few distinct Imperial Commanders and Lieutenants that have speaking lines (including Praji and Jir from the beginning of the movie)

What is still missing is the unnamed pilots in the Briefing scene, there are several hard to see astromechs there and just general Rebel leaders.   If I've missed any major ones, please list and I'll add.

My idea would be a new Rebel Pilot Box Set and one of Imperial Commanders and another of some Rebel Astromechs.  Also one of the HUGE ones that they have made but needs a really bad resculpt is Red Leader

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/redleader/img/movie_bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Nicklab on December 7, 2007, 01:29 PM
Excellent list Scott!  The only other Rebel pilot that's coming to mind is the Y-Wing pilot Tiree, but he looked a lot like Lt. Lepira who just came out this year.

Oh, and Commander Praji is strongly rumored for next year.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 7, 2007, 02:15 PM
Holy bottom of the barrel Batman!
I never knew they had names, I love the obscure nature of these guys. I really did Red leaders R5 unit, that would be a sweet repaint. Red 4 has a big beak that would make an interesting head sculpt, the big schnoz protruding from the face mask would be priceless. I dig Red 7 too, he looks like Moe from the 3 Stooges, they should come in a two pack or BP. Hasbro really should make the Ultimate Obscure Battle pack for each movie. We can get our fix of the Galaxy's greatest losers done in one glorious shot.

Technically we already did get the Generic Blue Symbol Rebel Pilot with the original Y-Wing & TRU Red leader X-Wing. An updated version would be nice.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Scott on December 7, 2007, 02:16 PM
The original Y-Wing contained Tiree if I recall which is why I didn't list him (and he had a Red Symbol not blue)

Does he need a resculpt...yep.  But that's not what this list is ;)
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: jedipurge on December 7, 2007, 02:24 PM
What the hell is up with #13 Rebel Technicians' hat, hopefully if Hasbro does make this guy they give him a hat that actually fits on his head  ;).  Don't forget the almighty Porkins definately needs a resculpt.  As far as the #14 hanger technician,  paint up an AT-ST pilot in tan give 'em a new helmet and gloveless forearms and their you go.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on December 7, 2007, 02:26 PM
What the hell is up with #13 Rebel Technicians' hat, hopefully if Hasbro does make this guy they give him a hat that actually fits on his head  ;). 

I missed that guy. He is awesome!
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Nicklab on December 7, 2007, 02:38 PM
The original Y-Wing contained Tiree if I recall which is why I didn't list him (and he had a Red Symbol not blue)

Does he need a resculpt...yep.  But that's not what this list is ;)

That Y-Wing pilot has the right markings on his helmet for Tiree, but I don't think that figure  was ever identified as an individual pilot.  That's why I brought him up.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2007, 04:32 PM
I'm more interested in the plain old rebels in the beige uniforms than anything else.  Mostly everything else I can do on my own with simple head swaps if I really want to.  Though a nice SA Imperial Officer in black duds would be cool.

I'd be happy with just these two boring characters though when it comes down to it -

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebeltech.jpg)

...lots more cool aliens from the prequels that I'd rather see first though.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: evenflow on December 7, 2007, 06:15 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Rune Haako on December 7, 2007, 06:22 PM
This version of Geneal Jan Dodonna.

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/9/91/Dodona.jpg/250px-Dodona.jpg)

Battle Damaged R2-D2.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2007, 07:47 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.

Yeah!  I remember that prototype accessory set too... I'd love to see that stuff actually come out, with perhaps an upgraded version of the figure we saw.  I really did like the accessories.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: IshiTib on December 8, 2007, 04:46 AM
the only interesting figure would be dodonna in the other outfit
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Dan on December 8, 2007, 07:30 AM
You could almost get away with making this another ultimate battle pack- a few new heads on a few pilot bodies, some new heads on tweaked officer bodies, a retooled leia, battle damaged R2, plus an old mold x wing and a ladder that would hopefully work for both x wing molds, and maybe a death star gun and gunner.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: MetalJedi on December 8, 2007, 08:07 AM
Battle Damaged R2-D2.

I'd rather them make a different astromech instead of another R2-D2.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 8, 2007, 09:08 AM
This version of Geneal Jan Dodonna.

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/9/91/Dodona.jpg/250px-Dodona.jpg)


You could make that version by design using the Antillies.

I'd take every character on that list though.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Scott on December 8, 2007, 02:36 PM
http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=4698.msg65189#msg65189

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/dodonnacustom3.jpg)

It is a pretty easy custom and I guess while technically right I don't see a lot of clamoring for a coated Dodonna.  I would not be shocked to see him down the road in a Battle Pack or soemthing
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Jesse James on December 8, 2007, 03:55 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.

Thank god it didn't!  It was the POTF2 Fleet Trooper + POTF2 AT-ST Driver...   :-X  That's one ugly figure.

A new one would be nice, but I always hoped for him with that hover-sled in the deluxe line or some such.  I'd love a Yavin Tech though, and the Yavin Petty Officers...  Also would like to have the Yavin War Room Officer...  If you look closely, he looks like the regular technicians until you see he has on pants and a shirt similar to a Fleet Troopers except the color is like the technician's jumpsuit.  He's the guy wearing the headset talking to the pilots during the battle.  His shirt has a collar ala the RFT's shirt.

It's one of those little uniform differences, plus the guy has a speaking role too.  It'd make a neat figure to me, but it's something most people don't notice.  He's like a technician officer or some such it seems.  I believe he's also visible at the briefing, I believe sitting with the pilots, but you have to have a good eye to catch him.  Not sure if he's on your list Scott but he should be as he's different.

Anyway, there's two types of Rebel Petty Officers (ballcap guys) too...  One type wears a fairly baggy, ill-fitting uniform with more pockets.  The other type wears a more form-fitting uniform, and often have an ascot/scarf on.  The uniform is REALLY distinctly different when you look at it, and it gives the impression of a lower rank with a more "functional" combat uniform for the ill-fitting uniformed group.  Their has are also slightly different in that one bears a multi-color insignia while the form-fitting one does not.

So again, it's minor to some, but technically there are two separate officer types...  They're also kept noticeably separated in the Yavin Ceremony scene, so it's not just a costuming screw-up.  It was clearly intentional.  They're kept separate throughout the lines.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Scott on December 8, 2007, 04:01 PM
The guy talking to the pilots is Del Goren...here's there :)

(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/delgoren.jpg)
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 8, 2007, 09:32 PM
Thank god it didn't!  It was the POTF2 Fleet Trooper + POTF2 AT-ST Driver...   :-X  That's one ugly figure.

I didn't care about the figure, it was the accessories that I wanted. 
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2007, 02:47 AM
Ah, ok, thanks Scott...  Good call then.  Nice spotting him.  I guess I missed him on my skimming.  :-[

I still champion the uniform differences in the officers in the crowd.  I was flipping through a FC mag at the grocery store this evening, and there's some real crisp shots of the ceremony...  Check it out.  Clearly unique, and noticeably separated uniform groups.  Only really two distinct styles, but they are intentionally kept into separate groups.  If they can do the black jumpsuit Imp with hats, I'll take the two Rebel officer types at the ceremony for sure.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 9, 2007, 09:01 AM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.

Thank god it didn't! 


Couldn't agree more. That was when figure sculpts were moving away from He-Man. It would have been a major step backwards.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 9, 2007, 12:54 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.

Thank god it didn't! 


Couldn't agree more. That was when figure sculpts were moving away from He-Man. It would have been a major step backwards.

Wouldn't have been worth it for the accessories?
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Nicklab on December 9, 2007, 01:01 PM
With a totally subpar kitbash figure?  I think the focus needs to be on a good figure, first and foremost.  Packing a crap figure with a cool accessory is like polishing a turd.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Darth_Anton on December 9, 2007, 03:35 PM


(http://www.jedidefender.com/spearson/yavin/rebelhanger.jpg)


I would actually like this one made. I remember a prototype popped up years ago for an accessory set. Too bad it never got released.

Thank god it didn't! 


Couldn't agree more. That was when figure sculpts were moving away from He-Man. It would have been a major step backwards.

Wouldn't have been worth it for the accessories?

Curse you and your points. :-X
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 9, 2007, 07:42 PM
With a totally subpar kitbash figure?  I think the focus needs to be on a good figure, first and foremost.  Packing a crap figure with a cool accessory is like polishing a turd.

If you recall those accessory sets were only throwing out repacked or kitbashed figures anyway.  Hasbro's focus was actually on new accessories, hence they are called Accessory Sets.

Anyways, I think most of us would have rather of seen the Yavin set than THIS (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/swsaga/saga-hothacc_cardfront.jpg).
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Jesse James on December 9, 2007, 11:36 PM
Wouldn't have been worth it for the accessories?

No, but my reasoning why is that there's a better set of base figure parts to use, even if you still wanted to just do a kitbash with all the bits and pieces...  POTF2 pack-in TIE Pilot legs (articulated at the knees), "Imperial Officer" body, and generic head w/RFT helmet... 

By no means is it ideal, but it's a semi-poseable, decently sculpted figure...  Buying figures for the accessory is only cool when you get at least a half-decent figure with it.  Endor R2 that's out now comes to mind...  I'd say the recent Tatooine Luke, but...  Well, eh.  I guess I won't say that.  I have bought those on sale just for the tower though, it's so sweet.  But only on sale...   :-\
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: Nicklab on December 10, 2007, 12:26 AM
With a totally subpar kitbash figure?  I think the focus needs to be on a good figure, first and foremost.  Packing a crap figure with a cool accessory is like polishing a turd.

If you recall those accessory sets were only throwing out repacked or kitbashed figures anyway.  Hasbro's focus was actually on new accessories, hence they are called Accessory Sets.

Anyways, I think most of us would have rather of seen the Yavin set than THIS (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/swsaga/saga-hothacc_cardfront.jpg).

I'm very aware of those SAGA packs as well as that Yavin base prototype.  It used the POTF2 Rebel Fleet Trooper mondo-beefcake head on an Imperial Scanning Trooper body.  And it looked TERRIBLE.  I'm glad Hasbro shelved that one.  If they revisit the idea down the road I'm sure we'll get a much better figure than that piece of garbage.  A ladder or two doesn't impress me enough to want such a completely fugly figure.
Title: Re: Who Is Left From The Battle of Yavin?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 10, 2007, 11:03 AM
Just different styles of collecting Nicklab - I'd either pitch the figure or give it to a kid because yes the figure sucked.  My Yavin scene would look a lot nicer with some more accessories though... and after the thousands of dollars I've thrown down for this hobby, I'd gladly fork over $10.00 more for some decent accessories... and looking back, this was 5 years ago that it would have come out.  I'd say that if it DID come out 5 years ago, most would be glad that it did because we'd at least have some nice Yavin accessories.

Anyways, I agree Jesse that the figure could have been a lot better - I was surprised that they didn't toy with the idea of using the POTJ Imperial Officer body as the base for it... and yeah the Tatooine Luke this year isn't a good figure, but I bought 6 of them for the vaporator.  Well worth it to me.   :)