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Title: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on January 8, 2008, 02:30 PM
What better way to kick off the '08 thread than with this news?

(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4938/t10731gossagegettyqy3.jpg)

Gossage elected to Hall of Fame (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/01/08/hall.2008.ap/index.html?eref=T1)

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Rice falls 14 votes shy; McGwire stuck at 128 votes

Posted: Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:03PM; Updated: Tuesday January 8, 2008 2:18PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- Goose Gossage became only the fifth relief pitcher elected to the Hall of Fame, earning baseball's highest honor Tuesday on his ninth try on the ballot.

Known for his overpowering fastball, fiery temperament and bushy mustache, the Goose received 466 of 543 votes (85.8 percent) from 10-year members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America.

Jim Rice was passed over yet again, getting 392 votes (72.2 percent), up from 346 (63.5 percent) last year and 16 short of the 75 percent needed. He will appear on the writers' ballot for the 15th and final time next year, when career steals leader Rickey Henderson will be among the newcomers.

Andre Dawson was third at 358 (65.9 percent), followed by Bert Blyleven at 336 (61.9 percent).

Mark McGwire, a casualty of the Steroids Era in some writers' minds, received just 128 votes -- the exact total he had last year. His percentage increased slightly to 23.6 percent, up from 23.5 percent last year when he was on the ballot for the first time.

Gossage, who fell short by 21 votes last year, joins Hoyt Wilhelm (1985), Rollie Fingers (1992), Dennis Eckersley (2004) and Bruce Sutter (2006) in Cooperstown's bullpen.

Gossage was a nine-time All-Star who pitched for nine major league teams from 1972-94 and had 310 saves -- 52 of them in which he got seven outs or more.

He will be inducted July 27 in Cooperstown, joined by five men elected last month by the revamped Veterans Committee: former commissioner Bowie Kuhn, former Dodgers owner Walter O'Malley, managers Dick Williams and Billy Southworth and ex-Pirates owner Barney Dreyfuss.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 8, 2008, 05:56 PM
Sweet!  I actually got to see him play when I was a kid!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on January 9, 2008, 12:00 AM
I can't believe McGwire is getting snubbed based on innuendo and no proof.  Sure I am sure he did stuff...he admitted to doing Andro...but who is to say Jim Rice didn't?  Or Andre Dawson?  Or Rickey Henderson?  That 70 HR season saved baseball after the strike in my opinion and he is getting blackballed...I hope every modern player gets the same treatment.

Also...

(http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/photo/photogallery/ws_top20_large/16.jpg)

This alone should get you in the Hall of Fame
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on January 9, 2008, 12:06 AM
Both Bert and Jack deserve to be in there IMH(omer)O.   :-\

When you look at the numbers, in his era, only Nolan Ryan had better stuff (wins, Ks, CGs) than Bert.  Too bad he's like 13 games shy of 300 or he'd have been in long ago most likely...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on January 9, 2008, 12:17 AM
Can we ever have a HOF discussion around here without you Minnesota people whining about some random slightly-above-average Twin who you think deserves nomination?

Who's next?  Kent Hrbek?  Dan Gladden?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JediMoses on January 23, 2008, 12:10 AM
Bert definitely deserves HOF, in my opinion too.  Did Goose choose the Yankees for his hat?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JediMoses on January 23, 2008, 12:11 AM
I am in the camp that the Twins should trade Santana or give him a market extension.  Losing him for compensatory picks is not an option.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on January 23, 2008, 07:18 AM
Did Goose choose the Yankees for his hat?

The player doesn't choose the hat, the Hall of Fame does.  And I'd imagine he'd go in as a Yankee.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JediMoses on January 23, 2008, 07:33 AM
Did Goose choose the Yankees for his hat?

The player doesn't choose the hat, the Hall of Fame does.  And I'd imagine he'd go in as a Yankee.

I thought they got to express a preference at least.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on January 29, 2008, 05:13 PM
Is Johan Santana gonna go into the HOF as a Twin, or as a Met (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-01-29-twins-mets-santana_N.htm)?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on January 29, 2008, 05:33 PM
 :'(

He'll go in as a Met.  The Twinkies don't even exist. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on January 29, 2008, 05:43 PM
**** You Carl

(http://www.10000takes.com/B96_Pohlad.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on January 30, 2008, 10:04 AM
Bad job by the Twins.  Both the Red Sox and Yankees had better offers on the table.

The Twins just basically waved a white flag.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on January 30, 2008, 10:09 AM
Bad job by the Twins.  Both the Red Sox and Yankees had better offers on the table.

The Twins just basically waved a white flag.
I agree, they could have had starting major leaguers instead 4 maybes.  Granted, they usually have come out like champs on these (see Joe Nathan, Fran Liriano, Christian Guzman, Eric Milton, Kevin Tapani, Rick Aguilara etc etc etc) It just sucks they are going to not spend money to field the best team out there.  I wonder all the time why I'm a Minnesota sports fan :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on February 20, 2008, 05:07 PM
I can't believe McGwire is getting snubbed based on innuendo and no proof.  Sure I am sure he did stuff...he admitted to doing Andro...but who is to say Jim Rice didn't?  Or Andre Dawson?  Or Rickey Henderson?  That 70 HR season saved baseball after the strike in my opinion and he is getting blackballed...I hope every modern player gets the same treatment.

Also...

(http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/photo/photogallery/ws_top20_large/16.jpg)

This alone should get you in the Hall of Fame

Scott - Couldn't have said it better. He should be in the Hall.

Is Johan Santana gonna go into the HOF as a Twin, or as a Met (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2008-01-29-twins-mets-santana_N.htm)?

Depending on his career with the Mets; I would venture to say he would go in as a Twin since he got his 2 Cy Youngs with us, and Strike Out King 4 years running with us.

Bad job by the Twins.  Both the Red Sox and Yankees had better offers on the table.

The Twins just basically waved a white flag.

By sending him to the NL we don't have to worry about having to face him except during with Inter-league play. Granted both teams had better offeres, we don't have to worry about him putting the screws to us 2 times a season.

Bad job by the Twins.  Both the Red Sox and Yankees had better offers on the table.

The Twins just basically waved a white flag.
I agree, they could have had starting major leaguers instead 4 maybes.  Granted, they usually have come out like champs on these (see Joe Nathan, Fran Liriano, Christian Guzman, Eric Milton, Kevin Tapani, Rick Aguilara etc etc etc) It just sucks they are going to not spend money to field the best team out there.  I wonder all the time why I'm a Minnesota sports fan :'(

They will be paying 15 million less this year than they did last year and look who all is gone (Santana, Hunter, Ford, LeCroy, Silva, Bartlett, & Tyner). Half our outfield is nothing but utility players, and our Pitching staff looks greener than the grass at the Dome. The Twins are just making it easier for the Tigers & White Sox to have good seasons this year, and it is possible that the Royals won't be the worst team in the league this year, we could be.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on February 21, 2008, 10:42 AM
I have done a piss poor job of keeping up with my Cardinals this off season. I was just reaquainting myself with the team and I want to scream...


David Eckstein - signed with Toronto
Scott Rolen - Traded to Toronto after a falling out with La (passed out behind the wheel) Russa - Got Troy Glaus
Jim Edmonds - Traded to the San Diego Padres
Gary Bennett (back up catcher) - Signed with the Dodgers
Troy Percival - Signed with Tampa Bay
So Taguchi - Signed with the Phillies


Not to mention that Chris Carpenter is still out from Tommy John Surgery...

Looks like 2008 is the season of the rebuild for my favorite teams.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on February 25, 2008, 09:38 AM
Red Sox extends Tito Francona's contract (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7835788/-Francona-gets-three-year-extension)

All I can say is - It's about ******* time.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jayson on February 28, 2008, 01:46 PM
What should they call it (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-cubs-wrigleyfield&prov=ap&type=lgns), Double Bubble Field? Dentine Ice Field?, Big League Chew Field?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on February 28, 2008, 02:32 PM
I have done a piss poor job of keeping up with my Cardinals this off season. I was just reaquainting myself with the team and I want to scream...


David Eckstein - signed with Toronto
Scott Rolen - Traded to Toronto after a falling out with La (passed out behind the wheel) Russa - Got Troy Glaus
Jim Edmonds - Traded to the San Diego Padres
Gary Bennett (back up catcher) - Signed with the Dodgers
Troy Percival - Signed with Tampa Bay
So Taguchi - Signed with the Phillies


Not to mention that Chris Carpenter is still out from Tommy John Surgery...

Looks like 2008 is the season of the rebuild for my favorite teams.

Yeah, looks like a rebuilding year.  Spiezo's gone now too, always liked him but can't say I blame them for parting with him.

So Taguchi, for some reason losing him bothers me.  He's old, but seemed to really be a valuable player.  The team needs to get younger though, so I can't really blame them for that one either; though I hate to see him go.

Who know though, they could surprise us this year. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on February 28, 2008, 03:26 PM
I have done a piss poor job of keeping up with my Cardinals this off season. I was just reaquainting myself with the team and I want to scream...


David Eckstein - signed with Toronto
Scott Rolen - Traded to Toronto after a falling out with La (passed out behind the wheel) Russa - Got Troy Glaus
Jim Edmonds - Traded to the San Diego Padres
Gary Bennett (back up catcher) - Signed with the Dodgers
Troy Percival - Signed with Tampa Bay
So Taguchi - Signed with the Phillies


Not to mention that Chris Carpenter is still out from Tommy John Surgery...

Looks like 2008 is the season of the rebuild for my favorite teams.

Yeah, looks like a rebuilding year.  Spiezo's gone now too, always liked him but can't say I blame them for parting with him.

So Taguchi, for some reason losing him bothers me.  He's old, but seemed to really be a valuable player.  The team needs to get younger though, so I can't really blame them for that one either; though I hate to see him go.

Who know though, they could surprise us this year. 

I am not surprised that Spaco (Spiezo) is gone. Between last seasons mid-season meltdown leading to him missing the remainder of the season and then the crap in December I can't blame them for cutting him. I bet the Cards told him that if he didn't clean up his act and keep it clean that they would cut him.

Taguchi was older, but like Eckstien had speed. I just find it hard to believe that the core of the roster is reduced to one guy (Pujols) and even at that he isn't at 100%. They should done something to hang onto some of the other players that could have helped out where he is lacking with this injury.

If Pujols doesn't get to 100% soon I see him leaving and going to the AL to be a DH somewhere so he can get some limited play time, but also DH when the foot & hamstring are acting up. We all know that the Evil Empire (Yankees) or the Communists (Red Sox) will pay him big money for his to DH
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on February 28, 2008, 03:31 PM
Do you think he would accept a DH role though?  At this point in his career?  He seems to love playing in the field.  Damn, the thought of him leaving the Cards is scary.  Maybe adding Glaus will give him more protection, and hopefully Ankiel & Duncan will have solid seasons... if the pitching can come through, I think this team will be in contention in the division.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 25, 2008, 09:30 AM
You Twinkies fans gotta tell me why the Twins are willing to throw $47 million to Joe Nathan, and not pay Johan Santana, the best pitcher in baseball for the last 4 years.

Bunch of monkeys running that franchise I tell ya.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on March 25, 2008, 11:08 AM
You Twinkies fans gotta tell me why the Twins are willing to throw $47 million to Joe Nathan, and not pay Johan Santana, the best pitcher in baseball for the last 4 years.

Bunch of monkeys running that franchise I tell ya.

The Pohlad family is F'ed in the head (my personal opinion). We lost over 1/2 of our team from last year. Mostly due to free agency. What it boils down to is the Twins are taking a chance right now on the younger talent to step up and get better in time as Santana did. They probably figure that Santana has reached his peak or near his peak and is going to become more of a regular pitcher soon (Rodger Clemens after he left Boston). It is easier to trade him now when had 1 so-so season in 2007 then it would be to try and trade him if his season this year is the same. Especially since his contract is up this year. It is better to get something for him then nothing. Like what happened to us with Hunter.

As for why throw that money at Nathan - the market for a good closer is tough and teams are willing to pay top dollar for them. Especially since in a close game the closer is key. With the youth we have all around on the team it is necessary to pay some top dollar for a closer so we can be in contention this season. As it is that still isn't a given with this team.

Basically we need Nathan more than we need Santana. As we can put the pressure of good starting pitcher on 5 guys, and we can't do that with a closer.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: stormie on March 26, 2008, 03:34 PM
I find it really odd that the baseball season "officially" started earlier this week when Boston and Oakland played a pair of count-in-the-standings games in Japan, yet these same teams will come back home to play more Spring/exhibition games this weekend. It's just weird.

That's pretty much all I was thinking about regarding baseball, since my team (Giants) will suck beyond belief this year.  :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on March 26, 2008, 03:36 PM
They probably figure that Santana has reached his peak or near his peak and is going to become more of a regular pitcher soon (Rodger Clemens after he left Boston).

Yeah, whatever happened to that Clemens guy, anyway?  It's like after he left Boston, you never heard from him again after that.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 26, 2008, 07:00 PM

That's pretty much all I was thinking about regarding baseball, since my team (Giants) will suck beyond belief this year.  :'(

I wouldn't count them out just yet.  That pitching rotation of Zito, Lincecum, Cain, Lowry could turn out to be very very good.  We have to wait and see, but they definitely have potential.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's very likely, but definitely quite possible.

 :)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on March 27, 2008, 03:52 PM
I find it really odd that the baseball season "officially" started earlier this week when Boston and Oakland played a pair of count-in-the-standings games in Japan, yet these same teams will come back home to play more Spring/exhibition games this weekend. It's just weird.

That's pretty much all I was thinking about regarding baseball, since my team (Giants) will suck beyond belief this year.  :'(

MLB is just trying to get a larger fan base and since we have been stealing Asian players to attempt to turn them into American Superstars it figures that we would go over there to get them to follow our teams instead of their own.


They probably figure that Santana has reached his peak or near his peak and is going to become more of a regular pitcher soon (Rodger Clemens after he left Boston).

Yeah, whatever happened to that Clemens guy, anyway?  It's like after he left Boston, you never heard from him again after that.

Just turned into a guy that liked getting in the butt and then lied about it to Congress!  ;D



That's pretty much all I was thinking about regarding baseball, since my team (Giants) will suck beyond belief this year.  :'(

I wouldn't count them out just yet.  That pitching rotation of Zito, Lincecum, Cain, Lowry could turn out to be very very good.  We have to wait and see, but they definitely have potential.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's very likely, but definitely quite possible.

 :)


No games have been played except for 2 of them in Japan. This is still anyone's season.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: stormie on March 28, 2008, 01:28 PM
MLB is just trying to get a larger fan base and since we have been stealing Asian players to attempt to turn them into American Superstars it figures that we would go over there to get them to follow our teams instead of their own.

Yeah, I understand why they're doing it, but it just seems weird that the A's, for example, have already played two official games, but will now play 3 more exhibition games this weekend. It's like they should've been done with exhibition BEFORE starting the season.

I wouldn't count them out just yet.  That pitching rotation of Zito, Lincecum, Cain, Lowry could turn out to be very very good.  We have to wait and see, but they definitely have potential.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's very likely, but definitely quite possible.

 :)

I wish I shared your optimism. Outside of Cain and Lincecum, even the rotation is shakey. Zito's Spring ERA is over 10 and Lowry's hurt, and the fifth starter (either Correia or Sanchez) is iffy at best. Aurilia, Durham and Roberts are still being started, and Benji Molina is batting cleanup. And the division is going to be even tougher than last year (Colorado, Arizona, San Diego and Dodgers). Ugh, it's really going to be a long year.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, though.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on March 29, 2008, 03:35 PM
AL East: Boston
AL Central: Detroit
AL West:LAoA

NL East: NY
NL Central: Chicago
AL West: Arizona

AL Champ: Boston
NL Champ New York

World Champ: Boston

BTW...last year

NL East - Philly
NL Central - Da Cubs
NL West - Trollydodgers
NL Wild Card - Cards

AL East - Damn Yankees
AL Central - Motor City Kitties
AL West - Halos
AL Wild Card - BoSox

I got 3 out of 8 right but technically 5 of the 8 playoff teams
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 29, 2008, 03:52 PM
AL East: Yankees
AL Cent: Tigers
AL West: Mariners
AL Wild: Red Sox

NL East: Mets
NL Cent: Cubs
NL West: D'Backs
NL Wild: Phillies

World Series: Yankees over Mets
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on March 31, 2008, 02:00 PM
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Tigers
AL West - Mariners
AL WC - Yankees

NL East - Mets
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - D'backs
NL WC - Phillies

ALCS - Red Sox over Tigers
NLCS - Mets over Cubs

WS - Red Sox over Mets (I'll say in four games so everyone gets free furniture (http://www.jordans.com).  Last year they only had to win it.  I hear Jordan's insurance company was pissed so they made it more difficult this year). :-*

I went back and forth between the Tigers and Indians to win the Central.  Even with the Tigers' suspect relief pitching, I still think they're stronger than the Indians all around.  I also debated on having the wild card come from the Central and not the East, as has been mostly the case in recent years.  It seems every year we hear talk that the WC won't come from the East, but it seems to always happen.

The NL WC I was less sure of - the Braves, Brewers and the other teams in the West not named the Giants could also win it and I wouldn't be surprised. 

I'm just glad baseball is back (and being played in North America).
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: stormie on March 31, 2008, 02:15 PM
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Indians
AL West - Angels
Wildcard - Tigers

NL East - Mets
NL Central - Brewers
NL West - Arizona
Wildcard - Dodgers >:(

ALCS - Red Sox over Angels
NLCS - Arizona over Mets

WS - Red Sox over Arizona

The Red Sox are just too loaded to not be my pick.

Go Giants!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on March 31, 2008, 02:25 PM
AL East - Yankees (God I hate picking them)
AL Central - Tigers
AL West - Angels
AL Wild Card - Cleveland

NL East - Phillies
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - Arizona
NL Wild Card - Mets

ALCS - Tigers over Yankees in 7
NLCS - Phillies over Arizona

WS - Tigers in 4 if AL wins All Star Games, in 7 if NL wins All Star Game.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2008, 05:24 PM
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Indians
AL West - Angels
Wildcard - Tigers


I love when people don't pick the Yankees to even make the playoffs.

Don't hold your breath on that one.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2008, 05:59 PM
I love when people don't pick the Yankees to even make the playoffs.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

I know, right?  It's almost as silly as picking the Yanks to win it all, year in, and year out, no matter how much better the other teams are.

Anyway, here are my picks:

AL East:  Baltimore
AL Central: Kansas City
AL West:  Texas
AL Wild Card: Tampa Bay

NL East: Washington
NL Central: Pittsburgh
NL West: San Francisco
NL Wild Card:  Florida

ALCS: Tampa Bay over Texas in six
NLCS: Pittsburgh over San Francisco in five

World Series:  Tampa Bay over Pittsburgh in seven

Gonna be a crazy year!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2008, 06:14 PM
Get a life Matt.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on March 31, 2008, 06:18 PM
Yes sir, Jesus.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on March 31, 2008, 07:41 PM
Yes sir, Jesus.
No love for your new favorite team?

(http://www.norwichinn.com/images/masthead/dining-brewery-masthead.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on March 31, 2008, 08:42 PM
Looks like Eric Gagne still blows donkey balls...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on March 31, 2008, 08:58 PM
And looks like Mark Buehrle of the White Sox wants his ERA to match Rex Grossman's lifetime quarteback rating...  37.80 ERA?! :o
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on March 31, 2008, 09:01 PM
Looks like Eric Gagne still blows donkey balls...

A few more outings like that, and I'll be convinced his dominance with the Dodgers was steroid or HGH induced.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on April 1, 2008, 03:07 AM
No love for your new favorite team?

(http://www.norwichinn.com/images/masthead/dining-brewery-masthead.jpg)

Not this year, not unless they win the Series. 

NL Central's gonna be incredibly competitive this year.  Bank on it.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on April 1, 2008, 09:27 AM
Royals in First place in the AL Central...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on April 1, 2008, 04:43 PM
NL East - Atlanta
NL Central - St. Louis
NL West - San Diego
NL Wild - New York

AL East - Boston
AL Central - Cleveland
AL West - Los Angeles
AL Wild - New York

ALCS - New York
NLCS - Atlanta

WORLD SERIES - Atlanta in 6

NL MVP - Albert Pujols
AL MVP - Alex Rodriguez

NL CY YOUNG - Dan Haren
AL CY YOUNG - Erik Bedard

I'll probably go 0-15 with those picks.   ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on April 9, 2008, 02:07 PM
Not a bad start Redbirds... not bad at all...

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on April 10, 2008, 10:19 AM
Not a bad start Redbirds... not bad at all...




I can't complain. Rick Ankiel is off to a great start. Now if Pujols could pick it up this team might be a contender.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on April 10, 2008, 08:31 PM
Hit two gonners last night... hitting .379... he's doing fine, just needs to get the guys in front of him on base.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JohnH on April 15, 2008, 12:16 AM
What the hell is up with the offense this year?  I was looking at the Royals stats today - their offense has been pretty quiet so I figured they'd be at the bottom of the pack.  However, despite hitting a meager .257, they're ranked 10th out of 30 MLB teams.  Hell, there are 10 teams hitting less than .250, four of those less than .240.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on April 17, 2008, 10:23 AM
What the hell is up with the offense this year?  I was looking at the Royals stats today - their offense has been pretty quiet so I figured they'd be at the bottom of the pack.  However, despite hitting a meager .257, they're ranked 10th out of 30 MLB teams.  Hell, there are 10 teams hitting less than .250, four of those less than .240.


As much of a joke as this is.....better pitching!?!?

players not as good at judging the pitches as they use to be in the past. Hell Giambi and Ortiz last weekend were batting less than .100, and at present are both batting less than .140 (Giambi - .139 & Ortiz - .121).
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 19, 2008, 03:40 PM
Brian Wilson must work out.

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080411/capt.4b4cc94f234d445383069e6678470515.cardinals_giants_baseball_cata110.jpg)

 :o
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on April 28, 2008, 11:18 AM
The New York Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/04/27/2008-04-27_sources_roger_clemens_had_10year_fling_w.html) has a story posted about a 10 year fling with country music singer Mindy McCreedy.



I suspect that if this pans out to be true that Congress will go after him harder and faster then they went after Wesley Snipes.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 6, 2008, 03:05 PM
Damn Cardinals!  How do you keep winning all these games?

What the Redbirds are doing so far this season is amazing... much more entertaining, and more spirited than what STL fans got to see the other years this decade when they were winning with Edmonds, Rolen and Co. 

Wow... seeing these younger guys with something to prove is a delight!  Keep it up Cards!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on May 6, 2008, 04:29 PM
Damn Cardinals!  How do you keep winning all these games?

What the Redbirds are doing so far this season is amazing... much more entertaining, and more spirited than what STL fans got to see the other years this decade when they were winning with Edmonds, Rolen and Co. 

Wow... seeing these younger guys with something to prove is a delight!  Keep it up Cards!


No kidding. 2nd Best Record in Baseball, 2 game lead on closest team, and winning at all cost. Great season, and I am happy that I have the MLB package with my cable company so I can see more games.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 6, 2008, 05:21 PM
It's a good start for the Cards at 21-12, but in such a short sample size of a month of games, I wouldn't put too much stock in it.  I like both the Cubs and the Brewers to finish a good 6-8 games ahead of them, with the Cards missing the playoffs.  I expect the Cards to be 2nd or 3rd in the NL Central standings by July 1st the latest.

Good team, and they'll finish .500-ish, but they're a bat and an arm short.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 7, 2008, 10:44 AM
22-12... and counting... they're winning games right now in dramatic fashion.  Ankiel - 2 outstanding outfield assists last night...

Arm and a bat short?  I'm not sure.  They're pitching over their heads right now, but the guys that are having success now showed glimpses of it last year... and we'll see if either Mulder or Carpenter come back.  I really don't want to see Mulder thrown back into the mix (and most people in STL don't either)...

Their team ERA is 3.55, which is pretty damn good... hitting is doing well too... granted they're not hitting the long ball but they are finding ways to outscore the opponent almost every game.  If Glaus finds his power stroke, they're going to have a much more potent offense.  If not, i'm sure they'll hit a couple ruts this season, but so far so good.  You can just see it in their jump.  This team is full of energy and players out to prove something.

Cubs... I'm sure they're going to be tough all year long, as their offense is great.  Their pitching is a little suspect though it seems.  And I'm not worried at all about the Brew Crew. 

It's still early of course, but the Cards just had their best April in team history. And considering they were predicted to do this -

5. St. Louis Cardinals

Prediction: 70-92
Key Additions: Troy Glaus, Matt Clement
Key Losses: Jim Edmonds, Scott Rolen, David Eckstein, Troy Percival
Projected Lineup: SS Izturis, LF Duncan, 1B Pujols, 3B Glaus, CF Ankiel, RF Ludwick, C Molina, 2B Kennedy
Projected Rotation & Closer: Wainwright, Looper, Pineiro, Reyes, Mulder/Clement (if either is ready), plus Carpenter due to return mid-season & Isringhausen

Analysis: How the mighty have fallen. Since Pujols busted onto the scene until 2006, the Cards were perennial National League favorites. Now they represent a shell of what they were. Glaus might be the best power hitter to ever hit cleanup for Pujols, but is anyone going to be shocked when he ends up on the DL at some point this year? They’ll start the season with up to 3 starters on the shelf, which never a good way to kick off a season. Unless Pujols puts up a “Barry in 2001” season, I cannot see this team doing much damage, due to the lack of starting pitching, the subpar bullpen, the aging closer and the non-productive bottom of the order. And they’re a boring team to discuss, so let’s just move on.


Still early like I said... but so far the experts couldn't have been more wrong.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on May 7, 2008, 10:57 AM
The Card's are playing some of the best baseball they have ever had. Granted they lost some big names, and some power, but the fact that they are getting clutch hitting and putting runs on the board still shows that they have the stuff to compete with the Cubs and Brewers. If they stay consistant (true for any team) like this and don't go through the loosing streaks that they had last year and in '04 they will be a contender in the NL Central.



Thank god Mauer got a hit last night and broke up the No-No that Chicago had going. I loath going to Chicago if the White Sox have been having their way with the Twins.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 15, 2008, 02:29 PM
Cardinals have been pissing me off for the past 10 days... at least they won last night.  About damn time.   >:(
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 15, 2008, 02:48 PM
Cardinals have been pissing me off for the past 10 days... at least they won last night.  About damn time.   >:(

In the same 10 days since my May 6th post, I might add.

 :P

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on May 15, 2008, 03:22 PM
Go............Rays?!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 15, 2008, 11:10 PM
Cardinals have been pissing me off for the past 10 days... at least they won last night.  About damn time.   >:(

In the same 10 days since my May 6th post, I might add.

 :P


Curse of the Dressel.   :-X
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 18, 2008, 08:52 PM
Go............Rays?!

Cards pulled two wins in a row out of their tails this weekend against the AL's hottest team... hopefully those Redbirds will get back on track now. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JohnH on May 20, 2008, 12:02 AM
And I still have yet to witness a no-hitter.  My kids convinced me to turn the Royals/Red Sox game off in the fourth inning so they could play the Wii.

****.  :(

John
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on May 20, 2008, 09:03 AM
Become a Red Sox fan, John.  They throw a no hitter every 8 months.  :P

Lester or Buchholz and Ellsbury were on the table for Santana at one point.  I wonder if the Twins are kicking themselves for not taking that deal?  A no hitter from each pitcher before the age of 25 and a legitimate candidate for ROY.  I'm glad they're here though and for years to come.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on May 20, 2008, 10:15 AM
The Twins are fools.  As a fan, I guarantee that. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on May 20, 2008, 10:23 AM
Go............Rays?!

Cards pulled two wins in a row out of their tails this weekend against the AL's hottest team... hopefully those Redbirds will get back on track now. 

Yep - even when they lose it's nice to see Tampa fighting hard and not getting destroyed every day.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on May 20, 2008, 11:28 AM
Go............Rays?!

Cards pulled two wins in a row out of their tails this weekend against the AL's hottest team... hopefully those Redbirds will get back on track now. 

Yep - even when they lose it's nice to see Tampa fighting hard and not getting destroyed every day.

Absolutely.  Seeing teams that nobody predicted to do much of anything having success is great to see.  I hope they win the division.

And if the Cardinals don't pull out the NL Central... I'd like to see the Brew Crew get it done... stuff like that is good for the sport.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 20, 2008, 11:32 AM
Become a Red Sox fan, John.  They throw a no hitter every 8 months.  :P

Lester or Buchholz and Ellsbury were on the table for Santana at one point.  I wonder if the Twins are kicking themselves for not taking that deal?  A no hitter from each pitcher before the age of 25

Not to take anything away from Lester - but he no-hit the Royals.  Still impressive of course, but almost everyone kills the Royals.  Lester just had a little luck and a few good catches on his side last night.

Ellsbury is a total stud muffin - he'll likely win the ROY.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on May 20, 2008, 11:37 AM
From what the Twins said, Lester AND Ellsbury were never offered to them, that is what they asked for...I believe Bucholz and Ellsbury were offered and they said no...either way, both the Yankees and Red Sox had better offers than they got in the end.  I am still bitter about said deal and letting Torii Hunter walk but signing Joe Nathan to huge huge money. 

That being said, Carlos Gomez is going to be an absolute stud, soon
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on May 21, 2008, 02:47 PM
Go............Rays?!

It is nice to finally see the Yankees in last place again (ALA 1980's). Now if the Red Sox can join them I will be happy. I am just so sick and tired of ESPN and Fox only showing games that have New York or Boston teams have for TV. Granted they bring in bigger audiences, but since I can't stand any of the three teams I watch something else or don't watch at all. I just want to see other teams being showcased.


Twins Deal - Not happy about it, but so far Gomez has done a decent job. Since Johan is only 5-2 and it took him 6 weeks get a win at home at Shea I glad to see things appear to be going in our favor. At least it wasn't a crappy deal like the Vikings did to get Walker from Dallas.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 21, 2008, 03:34 PM

Twins Deal - Not happy about it, but so far Gomez has done a decent job. Since Johan is only 5-2 and it took him 6 weeks get a win at home at Shea I glad to see things appear to be going in our favor. At least it wasn't a crappy deal like the Vikings did to get Walker from Dallas.

"Only 5-2"?  Hold on a second here - Santana is 5-2 with a 3.30 ERA/ 1.12 WHIP and 57 K's in 60 IP.  Opponents are hitting just .229 against him. 

As I recall each of the last 4 seasons (all of which he pitched 200+ innings) he got off to slower starts in April and May and after the All Star Break he pitched the next 3 months with ERA in the 2.00's.  Santana's career ERA through May is 4.00, even when he was a Twin.  By that standard, he's having his best season yet  ;)

Even if he doesn't heat up after the break, he's pitching damn well this season already.  Those are great numbers.  Not good.  Great.

Things are not "going (in the Twins) favor" with that deal.  They made a bad trade and they could have either signed him, or gotten more for him.  He is the best pitcher in the majors 4 years running and he's 29 years old.  And he's off to a great start this season.



It is nice to finally see the Yankees in last place again (ALA 1980's).

Okay we'll see how long that lasts.

Last I checked it was a 6 month season, not a 6 week season.

The cream will rise to the top when things settle out in the long dog days of summer that is the baseball season.

(http://www.sprintusers.com/wallpapers/uploadedfiles/080306ny_yankees_logo2022504.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on June 6, 2008, 12:42 AM
Okay we'll see how long that lasts.

Last I checked it was a 6 month season, not a 6 week season.


Lucky thing too - that should give the Yankees just about enough time to desperately claw their way to a wild card berth and a first round exit.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 6, 2008, 08:56 PM


Lucky thing too - that should give the Yankees just about enough time to desperately claw their way to a wild card berth and a first round exit.


Yeah well that's a luxury you can afford when you already have 26 World Championships under your belt.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on June 9, 2008, 09:06 AM


Lucky thing too - that should give the Yankees just about enough time to desperately claw their way to a wild card berth and a first round exit.


Yeah well that's a luxury you can afford when you already have 26 World Championships under your belt.

Sure it is considering the Yankees BUY championships. Their farm system is one of the worst in the league. The Yankees don't know how to grow talent, just buy it when it is nearly past their prime.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 9, 2008, 09:22 AM
The Yankees don't know how to grow talent, just buy it when it is nearly past their prime.

Oh I know, just ask Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter, Melky Cabrera, Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Robinson Cano, Ian Kennedy, Chien-Ming Wang, and Andy Pettitte.

The Yankees have a higher percentage of home grown talent than many other MLB teams, including the Mets AND the Red Sox.

So who, may I ask, is your favorite team?  I'm sure they're as home grown and pure as the wind driven snow.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on June 9, 2008, 03:12 PM
Go Cards.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 9, 2008, 07:00 PM
The Yankees don't know how to grow talent, just buy it when it is nearly past their prime.

Oh I know, just ask Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera, Derek Jeter, Melky Cabrera, Joba Chamberlain, Phil Hughes, Robinson Cano, Ian Kennedy, Chien-Ming Wang, and Andy Pettitte.

The Yankees have a higher percentage of home grown talent than many other MLB teams, including the Mets AND the Red Sox.

So who, may I ask, is your favorite team?  I'm sure they're as home grown and pure as the wind driven snow.

I've learned to just ignore the haters, and love it when the Yankees win.

On another note, We took my mother-in-law to a Rockies game Saturday night for her birthday and got to watch them beat the brewers live!  Coors Field is a great park to watch a game in and when the Rockies score 7 points in a game, Taco Bells in Colorado have a 4 tacos for a dollar deal.  Sweet.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on June 9, 2008, 10:49 PM
I ended up getting tickets to the White Sox for my birthday and we went yesterday.  It was a great game to watch as the Sox just pummelled the Twins.  They then beat them again today to take a 6.5 game lead over them in the AL Central.  They start a three game set with the Tigers tomorrow and with how the Tigers are playing lately, they could easily add a few more games to their lead.

If their pitching staff can stay healthy and they can keep their bats going, I can definitely see them stealing the AL Central this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on June 10, 2008, 08:49 AM
Congrats to Junior on hitting his 600th home run last night.  One of the all time classiest players and well deserved.  Too bad his all out play and injuries cost him some time.  We could possibly be talking about him trying to break the home record shortly.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on June 10, 2008, 02:35 PM
It came as a shock to me this morning to hear them say he missed something like 425 games since he's been with the Reds :o.  I have to believe that he would have been very close to beating the all time record had he been healthy.  He'll definitely pass Sosa this season and could possibly move into 4th over the next season or two if he continues to play...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on June 10, 2008, 04:27 PM
I ended up getting tickets to the White Sox for my birthday and we went yesterday.  It was a great game to watch as the Sox just pummelled the Twins.  They then beat them again today to take a 6.5 game lead over them in the AL Central.  They start a three game set with the Tigers tomorrow and with how the Tigers are playing lately, they could easily add a few more games to their lead.

If their pitching staff can stay healthy and they can keep their bats going, I can definitely see them stealing the AL Central this year.

Considering how the Tigers, Twins & Indians have played it is very likely that they will be the team to beat in the Central (I want to vomit saying this)!!!



So who, may I ask, is your favorite team?  I'm sure they're as home grown and pure as the wind driven snow.

Chewie said it best
Go Cards.
I am a Minnesota Twins fan as they are my home town team and I am a big Cardinals fan.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on June 10, 2008, 05:08 PM
Heh... my favorite team, other than the Cardinals is the Twins actually... I love that team.  Ever since I got my first Kirby Puckett card (87 Topps  ::) ) something about the Twins always put a smile to my face. 

I actually rooted for the Twins over the Cardinals in the 87 series... talk about getting a lot of spite from my fellow 4th graders at the time!   :o
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on June 10, 2008, 05:12 PM
My best friend's little brother, John Allman (http://kuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/061008aaa.html), just signed with the Cleveland Indians today, out of college.  He's got a very long road ahead of him, but who knows.   :)

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 12, 2008, 01:54 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080612/capt.bdd6c66035044728833cf11a978bc007.rangers_bradley_baseball_ny151.jpg)

That boy ain't right.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2008, 02:38 PM
As long as he keeps hitting the way he has been, it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on June 20, 2008, 05:13 PM
Jeter voted most overrated player in Sports Illustrated poll (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Jeter-voted-most-overrated-player-in-Sports-Illu?urn=mlb,89331)

This is by far one of my favorite stories against the Yankees. Not only do I hate them but the fans rated Jeter as the #1 overrater player and A-Rod as #3.


YANKEES HATERS UNITE!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 20, 2008, 05:37 PM
Jeter voted most overrated player in Sports Illustrated poll (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Jeter-voted-most-overrated-player-in-Sports-Illu?urn=mlb,89331)

This is by far one of my favorite stories against the Yankees. Not only do I hate them but the fans rated Jeter as the #1 overrater player and A-Rod as #3.


YANKEES HATERS UNITE!!!

You know what, you got OWNED above when you made this statement:


Sure it is considering the Yankees BUY championships. Their farm system is one of the worst in the league. The Yankees don't know how to grow talent, just buy it when it is nearly past their prime.

You have no answer for my comments because I'm right, and you're impossibly wrong, and confused.

I'd spend a few minutes proving you wrong on this one too, but I'll wait for you to refute my contention that the Yankees have MORE homegrown talent than any other team in MLB.

And in the meantime, while you're busy posting hopelessly ridiculous "arguments," Jeter sleeps quite well at night with his 4 championships and dozen postseason appearances, and ARod is the best player in the game today and may go down as the best EVER.

This is all about jealousy, and not an ounce more of anything else.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 20, 2008, 11:09 PM
I just can't see how he could be considered overrated with the career he's had.

The poll must have been taken exclusively in Boston.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt_Fury on June 22, 2008, 02:36 PM
I never heard of a switch pitcher before! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369826,00.html)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on July 1, 2008, 02:48 PM

This is all about jealousy, and not an ounce more of anything else.

Yawn - were you talking. Sorry wasn't paying attention.


I never heard of a switch pitcher before! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369826,00.html)


That is freaking cool. I would love to see that kid pitch (No matter the team - EVEN YANKEES [just for you Dressel])
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 6, 2008, 10:36 PM
(http://www.brpf.org/100px-MilwaukeeBrewers_100.gif)

(http://thestartingfive.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/cc.jpg)

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 6, 2008, 11:13 PM
Tomorrow?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 6, 2008, 11:31 PM
Tomorrow?

Yeah basically.  It's basically Sabathia for 1B prospect Matt LaPorta and 3 others.

The Brew Crew should give the Cubbies a run for their money now.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 6, 2008, 11:38 PM
Will he pitch against the Tigers?  I don't want to lose a start, but it's Sabathia against Verlander, so it might help. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on July 6, 2008, 11:43 PM
I doubt he'll pitch if they are even close to trading him

And this deal makes the Twins deal for Santana look like a steal
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2008, 06:58 PM
Man crush.  Dealt.

(http://sean.keener.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/cubs-logo.JPG)

(http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/gfx/baseball-rich-harden_392.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on July 8, 2008, 07:54 PM
(http://www.brpf.org/100px-MilwaukeeBrewers_100.gif)

(http://thestartingfive.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/cc.jpg)

Welcome to Milwaukee, CC Sabathia.  You'll be a fine addition to the starting rotation of my favorite MLB team.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on July 9, 2008, 12:30 AM
I seem to have developed some freakish Brewer-love myself.  Sabathia, Hart and Fielder on my fantasy team.  Maybe  I need me a hat?

BTW, nice non-use of periods Matt. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on July 13, 2008, 10:19 PM
Maybe  I need me a hat?

You're welcome to mine, if you have a watermelon to hang it on.  I no longer follow the Brewers.

Quote
BTW, nice non-use of periods Matt.

Thank you.  I had to look it up on Wikipedia to make sure I was punctuating it (or not, as it were) correctly, which means I'll probably have to change it again next week sometime.

*******************

R.I.P. to fellow Okie and all-around good guy Bobby Murcer, who died yesterday of brain cancer at the age of 62.

Goodbye, Bobby.  You were one of the few Yankees who didn't suck.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: JediMoses on July 15, 2008, 01:35 AM
Wow, Josh Hamilton was unreal tonight in the first round.  Glad my man JM got the win, but Hamilton deserved it.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on July 15, 2008, 11:02 AM
ESPN yet again showed no love to Justin last night. NO ONE picked him or even talked about him when it came time to pick their winners. And when it was all done they all glossed over him as the champ by blowing it off by saying people will forget that he won soon, but will never forget that Hamilton put 28 out in the 1st round. What a bunch of ass clowns.

Hamilton put on an exhibition last night, just forgot to leave a little in the tank for the final round. Justin took advantage.

I just can't believe that they had 3 people mispronounce Justin's name 3 time in a row before they awarded him his trophy. One time he was called JASON, and then they mispronounced his last name 2 times and one of them came from that airhead that ESPN had on the field talking to all the guys.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Nicklab on July 15, 2008, 12:08 PM
Josh Hamilton really is a great story.  And last night he was amazing in the derby.  Now did Justin Morneau get overshadowed?  Yes, even if he did win the Home Run Derby.   But you've got to feel something for Josh Hamilton coming back like this, putting up amazing numbers after nearly losing it all due to his drug problems.  And to have the guy who pitched BP to him in American Legion ball on the mound last night was an even greater indication of how Hamilton has turned his life around and realized what was really important in his life.

Justin Morneau won the Home Run Derby.  Josh Hamilton won the fans hearts.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Heart_of_Darkness on July 30, 2008, 05:38 PM
When is the next time the Braves will be playing?  ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on July 31, 2008, 05:09 PM
Manny to the Dodgers, Bay to the Sox?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on August 1, 2008, 10:26 AM
When is the next time the Braves will be playing?  ::)
They played last night and beat the Cardinals to avoid a sweep in Atlanta.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 6, 2008, 10:24 AM
Mmmmm.  Joba Chamberlain is bringing his MRI results to Dr. James Andrews.  Andrews....Andrews....that's the guy with the black cloak and giant sickle, right?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on August 26, 2008, 12:27 PM
Headline of the day:

"Guardado traded for Hamburger "


I think if the Rangers held out for a Baconator, the Twins would have coughed it up.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Heart_of_Darkness on September 6, 2008, 07:59 PM
I wish the Atlanta Braves would come  play in California. I can't go back to atlanta yet  :P
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 8, 2008, 09:47 AM
I don't know if this is more appropriate in the 'The Force Unleashed' Video Game thread or not, but I was looking at the White Sox  web-site this weekend to see what channel the game was being telecast on. When I opened the link to the schedule, there on September 16th is a nice picture of Darth Vader.  When I move my cursor over the picture, it says 'The Force Unleashed', but doesn't provide a link or anything...  I wonder if LA is planning a marketing campaign that also includes MLB...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 9, 2008, 09:36 PM
Well, I think that the White Sox have finally gotten down to their ninth life tonight... Konerko went down in the 5th with a knee injury and it looks to be serious...  So that's Quentin, Crede, Contreras and Konerko all out.  Even if they are able to limp into the play-offs, I don't see them making it out of the ALDS without these guys.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on September 10, 2008, 11:46 PM
Bless your heart Carlos Pena.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on September 11, 2008, 08:06 AM
Bless your heart Carlos Pena.

**** off, Mike Timlin.

(Although the offense deserves most of the blame.  Numerous opportunities to end the game with a lousy bloop single and they couldn't get it done)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2008, 09:58 AM
You guys have won a few world series in the last couple years.  These 2 road wins were the biggest deal in our franchise's lame history.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 11, 2008, 10:36 AM
SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/09/10/schilling.newyork.ap/index.html) posted a story about Curt Schilling running his mouth about New York sports fans being "bitter and mad and misserable".

Story...


BOSTON (AP) -- A shoulder injury has kept Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling sidelined all season, but his mouth is in good enough shape to take on New York.

Schilling blasted New York sports fans, calling them "bitter and mad and miserable" for their apparent glee over New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's season-ending knee injury.

Schilling talked about Brady's injury Tuesday during his weekly appearance on WEEI radio.

"The euphoria in New York is palpable," he said. "I mean, the Yankees suck this year. And they're bitter and mad and they're making excuses over that. And now, you know, now they got Tom going down, so, you know, New York's excited."

He later added: "They want us to be as bitter and mad and miserable and they are. And, unfortunately, it's not going to happen. The sad part is going to be when [the Patriots] beat the Jets next week."

Schilling has taken shots at New York in the past, and Tuesday acknowledged he's not a favorite there. But he said that's fine with him, recalling Boston's rally from three games back to beat New York in the 2004 AL championship series. Schilling famously forced a seventh game, pitching as blood seeped through his sock from a suture on his ankle.

"I was front row and center when their quote/unquote dynasty ended, so I'm OK with that," Schilling said.




Granted I am not a NY sports team fan myself, but when you suffer a season (possibly career) ending injury you really have nothing to talk about. Schilling is nothing more than a self absorbed ******* who likes seeing his name in the headlines. If anyone is "Bitter and mad and misserable" it is his worthless ass.

Dressel - Please don't remind me that I said this in defense of NY as I might have to shoot myself inspite of it!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on September 11, 2008, 11:07 AM
You guys have won a few world series in the last couple years.  These 2 road wins were the biggest deal in our franchise's lame history.

No doubt.  They certainly surprised me this year, I really didn't think they would be able to sustain what they're doing all year and would come crashing down to earth.  It sucks they don't get many fans at their home games.

SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/09/10/schilling.newyork.ap/index.html) posted a story about Curt Schilling running his mouth about New York sports fans being "bitter and mad and misserable".


And that surprises you (even though it's the truth  :P)?  Schilling's always been a blowhard.  Still doesn't change the fact that the guy will never have to buy another beer in Boston for those two WS rings he helped bring to Boston.

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on September 11, 2008, 11:59 AM
No doubt.  They certainly surprised me this year, I really didn't think they would be able to sustain what they're doing all year and would come crashing down to earth.  It sucks they don't get many fans at their home games.

Yeah, I managed to see them a few times here in Texas, but I can't do much about it.  It's a real shame that they're not drawing bigger crowds.  Maybe if they move the thing to Tampa proper, build a real stadium, and keep winning they'll draw more.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on September 11, 2008, 04:13 PM


"The euphoria in New York is palpable," he said. "I mean, the Yankees suck this year. And they're bitter and mad and they're making excuses over that. And now, you know, now they got Tom going down, so, you know, New York's excited."

He later added: "They want us to be as bitter and mad and miserable and they are. And, unfortunately, it's not going to happen. The sad part is going to be when [the Patriots] beat the Jets next week."


First of all Mr. Schilling, I'm not sure where you've been, but we beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl and we don't need any help from the injury gods to beat him again.

Second, in the event you're referring to the Jets, everyone knows the Patriots are still the favorites to win the division.

Lastly, shut up once in a while, you're a moron.


Knashdx - no worries.  You got this one right  :D
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt_Fury on September 12, 2008, 12:46 AM
Schilling really is a huge *******.

I'm a huge Yankee and Giants fan and I don't really care that the Yankees are playing like **** this year.  Granted, I'm disappointed, but it's not that big a deal.  I've seen them win plenty of World Series.  How many have most Boston fans seen the Red Sox win?  Two?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on September 12, 2008, 12:52 AM
How many have most Bostan fans seen the Red Sox win?  Two?

You guys are all spoiled... that's still 2 more times than the Rays have ever seen the post season.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 12, 2008, 03:59 PM
Home teams determined today for the one-game play-offs at the end of the season, if needed:

The Home Teams (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080912&content_id=3461998&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Happy that the White Sox will be at home if they end up having to play the Twins...  I really hope it doesn't come down to that, but the way those two teams are playing lately, anything is possible.

I'm sure Boston is happy they got home field as well...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 14, 2008, 10:46 PM
So last night when they announced that the Cubs/Astros series was being moved to Milwaukee, I logged in and tried to get tickets for tonight's game right when they went on sale.  Sure enough, I end up with seats right behind home plate, row 1, seats 1 & 2.  Carlos Zambrano then proceeds to throw a no hitter, the first for the Cubs in 36 years.  Unfortunately, my wife told me not to buy the tickets because we wouldn't have been able to get a sitter on such short notice.  Dammit!

Congrats to Big Z though, that's a huge accomplishment for him!  And congrats to Geovani Soto who caught him.  Quite a feat for a rookie catcher.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on September 18, 2008, 10:16 AM
Last evening I was at Target on my way home from the gym.  I was in line and there was this girl behind me with giant boobs, wearing sunglasses and some goofy hat talking on her blue-tooth.  She's talking to someone about how "wow, he hit TWO home runs tonight?!"

So having just come from the gym and having been watching a little bit of Baseball Tonight, I've figured out that she's talking about Hanley Ramierez.  So I'm thinking that this girl must like baseball, or have a fantasy baseball team of her own...

Then she starts dissecting his swing saying something like (but not exactly), "yeah, I'm telling you he started standing closer to the plate and shortening up his swing and it's going to be great for him."

Now, whatever she said, it was obvious that she knew more about the technical aspects of baseball than I did and I started thinking to myself that she was really super serious about this stuff.

Then she says "hell yeah, I'm going to have to call him soon and congratulate him."

Then she starts talking about some other player she knows on the Marlins who she'd been talking to the other day and he was complaining about being on the road in some posh hotel and she was quipping about how horrible it must have been for him and yadda yadda yadda.  I didn't get a chance to ask her about this because she never got off the phone and I was done, but it was a little bizarre to have just been thinking about Ramierez earlier that night because of the two HR's and to then randomly bump into some girl at Target who apparently is friends with him.

So I thought I'd share.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 22, 2008, 09:33 AM
Stayed up last night to watch the final game at Yankee Stadium. The night was exactly how I pictured it. And now regardless of my feelings towards the yankees I need to get a piece of baseball history from the stadium. I hope they sell parts of the stadium because that would be the best thing I could have in my collection.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on September 24, 2008, 02:39 PM
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Indians
AL West - Angels
Wildcard - Tigers


I love when people don't pick the Yankees to even make the playoffs.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

 :D (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iam1HOvcj4fRpXMD4eauz0Q1q27gD93D0R5O6)

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: CHEWIE on September 24, 2008, 03:28 PM
Gah!  Last time the Cardinals played this bad in August/September, they won the World Series.  Go figure.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 24, 2008, 05:10 PM
AL East - Yankees (God I hate picking them)
AL Central - Tigers
AL West - Angels
AL Wild Card - Cleveland

NL East - Phillies
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - Arizona
NL Wild Card - Mets

ALCS - Tigers over Yankees in 7
NLCS - Phillies over Arizona

WS - Tigers in 4 if AL wins All Star Games, in 7 if NL wins All Star Game.

Well I biffed the AL big time. Only one I got right was the Angels. With 5 games left to play the Arizona Diamond backs are still in contention for the NL West, but if the season ends and nothing changes I only missed Arizona in the NL so I didn't do too bad.

My surprises of the season...

Tampa Bay - Need I say more?!?!
New York Yankees - They had become such a normal in the payoffs lately I figured they still had a chance at the begining of Sept. I am happy they didn't make it.
Twins - Honestly I figured we we be finishing between Cleveland & KC near the bottom
Tigers - These guys picked up so much talent over the the off season between '07 & '08 I had them pegged as World Series bound not celler dwellers like they are.
Milwaukee - Didn't see them playing as well as they have or as consistantly. Still trying to figure out how a Vegitarian gets so fat. Can you please explain that to me Mr. Goodyear Blimp (aka - Prince Fielder).
Cubs - I figured they would win the Central, but not kick everyones asses like they have.



It is the 100 anniversary of the last time the Cubs won a World Series. Lets hope for a continuation of the curse. Because if it comes down to a Chicago series I will root for the Sox just to see the curse extended.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 24, 2008, 09:59 PM
It is the 100 anniversary of the last time the Cubs won a World Series. Lets hope for a continuation of the curse. Because if it comes down to a Chicago series I will root for the Sox just to see the curse extended.

I will root for the White Sox not only because they are my team, but also because my wife is a die hard Cubs fan ;D  However, with how they played yesterday and are playing today, I'm not confident that they will even make the play-offs :-\
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 25, 2008, 09:20 AM
It is the 100 anniversary of the last time the Cubs won a World Series. Lets hope for a continuation of the curse. Because if it comes down to a Chicago series I will root for the Sox just to see the curse extended.

I will root for the White Sox not only because they are my team, but also because my wife is a die hard Cubs fan ;D  However, with how they played yesterday and are playing today, I'm not confident that they will even make the play-offs :-\


If the season ends and the White Sox are a 1/2 game down of the Twins; MLB will require the Sox to play the missed game they had with Detroit to determine accurate standings (on 9/29) and if necissary a tie breaking game with the Twins on Tuesday 9/30. Twins definately have the easier schedule for the remainder of the week.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 25, 2008, 11:34 AM
Don't remind me.  I would much rather play the Royals than the Indians as well as not have to possibly play Detroit to force a play-off...  The only thing I can hope for is they catch some momentum tonight with a win and carry it through the weekend.  However, confidence is at an all time low at the moment...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on September 25, 2008, 11:39 PM
The only thing I can hope for is they catch some momentum tonight with a win and carry it through the weekend.  However, confidence is at an all time low at the moment...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Now we just have to dust KC and hope the Sox continue to choke... (http://www.jedidefender.com/jsmentek/crossfingers.gif)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jayson on September 25, 2008, 11:41 PM
Twins Win! Twins Win! Twins Win! God that was a fantastic game.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on September 25, 2008, 11:49 PM
I haven't yelled that loud at a sporting event on TV for a long time...what a game

Although I can't believe the 3rd Base ump called out Swisher...that sucked (sorta :P)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 26, 2008, 08:29 AM
The White Sox don't deserve to get into the play-offs at this point, no matter how hard it is for me to type that out...  They have the chance to close out the Division by winning all three games but instead get swept and now find themselves a 1/2 game out.  They played like **** the last three games.  I'm disgusted as a fan right now.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 26, 2008, 08:56 AM
The White Sox don't deserve to get into the play-offs at this point, no matter how hard it is for me to type that out...  They have the chance to close out the Division by winning all three games but instead get swept and now find themselves a 1/2 game out.  They played like **** the last three games.  I'm disgusted as a fan right now.


as much as it pains you to type this, as a Cardinals fan it pains me even more to say this...


You could always back the other Chicago baseball team going to the playoffs!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 26, 2008, 10:20 AM
You could always back the other Chicago baseball team going to the playoffs!

I will anyway.  I don't wish any ill-will toward the Cubs unless they are playing the White Sox in interleague play.  I also will have to root for the Cubs if I want to be allowed to stay in my house during the play-offs...  My wife is a die-hard Cubs fan.  If the Sox can't make it into the play-offs, then I hope the Cubs 'win the whole ******' thing' to quote one of my favorite basball movies.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on September 27, 2008, 08:43 PM
AL East - Red Sox
AL Central - Tigers
AL West - Mariners
AL WC - Yankees

NL East - Mets
NL Central - Cubs
NL West - D'backs
NL WC - Phillies

Ouch. 3 out of 8 in the playoffs for sure, 4 if the Mets make it (and only one right in the AL, although to be fair, nobody saw the Rays doing what they did this year).  The Mariners?  What the **** was I thinking?

I'll wait until all the teams are in and the match ups set before making my playoff predictions. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on September 27, 2008, 09:16 PM
although to be fair, nobody saw the Rays doing what they did this year

I don't know... there was at least one person preaching from the Rays pulpit...

AL Wild Card: Tampa Bay

In fact, he even picked them to win the whole thing!  Now THAT is some baseball skillz...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on September 27, 2008, 09:23 PM
although to be fair, nobody saw the Rays doing what they did this year

I don't know... there was at least one person preaching from the Rays pulpit...

AL Wild Card: Tampa Bay

In fact, he even picked them to win the whole thing!  Now THAT is some baseball skillz...

Hey, what can I say?  I may not know much, but I do know my baseball, folks.

(Thanks for not quoting the rest of my predictions, Jeff.)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on September 29, 2008, 11:04 AM
I guess I'm a Detroit fan today... go Tigers!   ;D
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 29, 2008, 11:58 AM
I guess I'm a Detroit fan today... go Tigers!   ;D

Go Sox Go!  I really hope that the White Sox win today so that the Twins and Sox can have one more game head to head.  I just hope that the rain stops so they get the game in...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 29, 2008, 12:50 PM
I guess I'm a Detroit fan today... go Tigers!   ;D

Same here.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 29, 2008, 03:15 PM
2:15 PM CST -


Game has been in a rain delay. Unsure when start time will be.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 29, 2008, 08:23 PM
2:15 PM CST -
Game has been in a rain delay. Unsure when start time will be.

7:26 PM CST -

WHITE SOX WIN!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 29, 2008, 09:06 PM
2:15 PM CST -
Game has been in a rain delay. Unsure when start time will be.
7:26 PM CST -
WHITE SOX WIN!!!

8:06 PM CST -

Tickets in hand for tomorrow's game.  See y'all at 6:30 CST tomorrow night!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on September 30, 2008, 09:10 AM
2:15 PM CST -
Game has been in a rain delay. Unsure when start time will be.
7:26 PM CST -
WHITE SOX WIN!!!

8:06 PM CST -

Tickets in hand for tomorrow's game.  See y'all at 6:30 CST tomorrow night!


I so freaking hate Detroilet!!! Those idiots couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on September 30, 2008, 09:58 PM
1-0?  I was expecting a lot more than that...   :'(
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on September 30, 2008, 10:01 PM
Nice time to go in to a slump Justin ::)

COngrats to the Sox I guess, I'll be rooting for the North Siders :)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on September 30, 2008, 11:18 PM
Just got back from the game.  Holy Crap was that stadium rockin'!  That is the most fun I have ever had at a baseball game!

I give Danks and Blackburn a lot of credit for some great pitching, and both teams played really good defense.  That game could have gone either way the way each team was playing.

First time in 102 years that both Chicago teams are in the play-offs together...  I hope one of them ends up winning it all!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 12:04 AM
First time in 102 years that both Chicago teams are in the play-offs together...  I hope one of them ends up winning it all!

Well it won't be the White Sox.  ...............Go Rays.  :)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 1, 2008, 07:51 AM
ALDS:
Angels over Red Sox (my heart says the latter, my head says the former)
Rays over White Sox

NLDS:
Phillies over Brewers
Cubs over Dodgers

ALCS:
Angels over Rays

NLCS:
Cubs over Phillies

World Series:
Angels over Cubs (although I wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs end 100 years of futility)

Go Red Sox!!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 1, 2008, 09:52 AM
First time in 102 years that both Chicago teams are in the play-offs together...  I hope one of them ends up winning it all!

Well it won't be the White Sox.  ...............Go Rays.  :)


Damn straight!!!!



ALDS:
Angels over Red Sox (my heart says the latter, my head says the former)
Rays over White Sox

NLDS:
Phillies over Brewers
Cubs over Dodgers

ALCS:
Angels over Rays

NLCS:
Cubs over Phillies

World Series:
Angels over Cubs (although I wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs end 100 years of futility)

Go Red Sox!!


I hope not. Chicago teams and Boston teams need to all loose!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 1, 2008, 04:25 PM
Phillies over Brewers
Cubs over LA Dodgers

Angels ove Red Sox
Rays over White Sox

Conference Series

Phillies over Cubs
Rays over Angels

WS
Phillies over Rays.


Good Lord I need to see a championship in Philly before I die
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 1, 2008, 10:43 PM
The city of Tampa OWNS the city of Philadelphia when it comes to playoff time.

It's psychological at this point.   ;D
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 2, 2008, 08:58 PM
Hey Rob, are you aware of any previous history between Balfour and Cabrera?  I'm really curious to find out what the hell that altercation was all about in the seventh...

And Evan Longoria... that boy good!  Without him, the Rays lose that game today.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2008, 02:06 AM
Not only do I not know of any history between those two, but I didn't get to watch the game.  I don't know why the **** they had to schedule it for the middle of the work day, but I'm mad about it.

As for Longo... yeah, we love that guy.  He absolutely needs to be rookie of the year.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2008, 10:59 AM
Saw this and thought I should post it here.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/17033/sitthefuckdown.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 3, 2008, 11:01 AM
It's official - the Cubs are cursed.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 3, 2008, 11:32 AM
Dude, that's been official for like 60 years.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 3, 2008, 12:01 PM
It's official - the Cubs are cursed.

It has been 100 years since they won one, and over 60 since they were in one. They don't stand a chance in LA.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth Broem on October 4, 2008, 06:27 PM
I am a Cubs fan.  This is what will happen.  The Cubs will win the next 2 in LA.  Then blow it at Wrigley Field in game 5.  It is tradition now for the opposing team to win it at Wrigley and make all the fans cry yet again.  Then witness the other team jumping up and down in celebratory mood.  More than likely they will have a lead in the 9th and Wood will magically blow it. 

Actually, they will probably just wilt under the pressure yet again tonight. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 5, 2008, 01:48 PM
Actually, they will probably just wilt under the pressure yet again tonight. 

Sorry Man.  I share your pain, although indirectly, as my wife is also a Cubs fan.  Next year...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 5, 2008, 04:33 PM
Phils win  ;D. Two similar teams in LA and PHL. Hopefully Utley steps up and Burrell keeps its going so Howard can see some pitches.

I still like the Phillies in the series, even if the rest of the country has jumped on the LA bandwagon.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 5, 2008, 06:59 PM
Next year...


That has been the Cub's moniker for 100 years now.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 5, 2008, 08:20 PM
That has been the Cub's moniker for 100 years now.

And probably for a whole lot more...

On a happier note, the White Sox managed not to blow a lead today and won one.  Now they are in a pretty good position going into tomorrow's game with Floyd on full rest.  I thought that Guillen was crazy pitching Danks tonight on 3 days rest, but it worked, so I won't complain.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 6, 2008, 08:23 PM
Rays win!

Baseball's never been so exciting (for people from Tampa that is).
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2008, 12:26 AM
I'll jump on the Rays bandwagon

I also like how the Cubs "choked" and absolutely no credit was given to the Trolleydodgers.  They are an entirely different team with Manny and oh yeah, they have the best manager ever.

I wouldn't mind seing a Dodgers v Red Sox series :)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 7, 2008, 08:18 AM
Rays win!
Baseball's never been so exciting (for people from Tampa that is).

Congrats to the Rays.  They definitely deserved to win that series.  Baseball in Chicago has never been so disappointing...

I also like how the Cubs "choked"...

Yes, this is what the Cubs do.  Their business model has been working well for 100 years, why change things now.  Seriously, if there was a company that functioned like this in the 'real' world, they would have gone under decades ago.  However, come opening day next year, Wrigley Field will again be packed to the gills with starry eyed fans hoping that 2009 will be the year!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 7, 2008, 08:26 AM
I heart me some Jon Lester...

I'm rooting for the Sox (obviously) and the Phils.  I think both series will be great and both could go 7 games.  The Sox-Rays series could potentially rival some of the Sox-Yanks series with the bad blood and two pretty evenly matched teams.

Go Sox and Phillies!!

PS - I like the Angels.  I love the way they play the game and I think Mike Scoscia is a great manager.  And I certainly respect them for giving the Red Sox everything they had that made for 4 spectacular games.  With that said, John Lackey has now joined LT on the list of sorest whiniest bitch losers ever.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 7, 2008, 09:50 AM

I also like how the Cubs "choked"...

Yes, this is what the Cubs do.  Their business model has been working well for 100 years, why change things now.  Seriously, if there was a company that functioned like this in the 'real' world, they would have gone under decades ago.  However, come opening day next year, Wrigley Field will again be packed to the gills with starry eyed fans hoping that 2009 will be the year!

I am in no way a Cubs fan, but you have to give the fans credit. They are one of the most loyal group of fans around. It doesn't matter if they are tanking like they did in the 80's or championship contending teams in this decade, the fans are aways there in droves and are VERY loyal. I my experiences with baseball fans from both of Chicago's teams are very different.

I was at Wrigley field in 2004 for a Cardinals/Cubs series in July. The night before the benches cleared and a couple of Cub's players were ejected. Cardinals won the game but it was definately an ugly game. The next day I am at the Cardinals/Cubs game; in the midst of taking a leak a guy walks up behind me slaps me on the back and says, "hope your boys don't beat us up too bad today!" I was wearing my Cardinals jersey. All game long the Cubs are taking it to the Cardinals and I am hearing it from everyone around me (going into the 7th inning the Cub's are up 8-1). In the 7th the Card's explode out and end up winning the game 11-8. As I am leaving the park I get a couple pats on the back about how good the game was, and that the Cub's will get them next time. The best game and experience  at an away park I have ever been to.

Earlier that year I had gone to a game at US Cellular to see the Twins face the White Sox. There had been a problem earlier that year with some fans that had jumped onto the field and beat up a coach from KC. Doug Mientkiewicz (who was the Twins 1st Baseman at the time) had made a comment about how bad the fans were. Of course this pissed a lot of Sox fans off. Knowing this I choose not to wear my Twins hat to the game. At some point in the game the pitcher for the Sox beans Mientkiewicz, benches clear and things get ugly (on the field & in the stands). My budy Justin starts shooting his mouth off at the Sox fans around us. I pull him aside and flatly tell him that if they decide to jump us that he better worry about me more than the Sox fans. Game ends and the Sox win. I get back to my car (I have a twins window cling) and I see 2 guys walking away frommy car laughing. I got to my car and they had spit all over my car. Worst experience ever at a ballpark.






After the Twins were elliminated, and the Card's didn't make it to the play offs. I decided that there was no way I could chear for Central Division teams in either league. I can't stand Man-Ram, and I am tired of Boston and NY always winning the AL EAST so that left me chearing for the Rays, Phillies & Angels. Since the Angels are out I am all for a Phillies/Rays World Series.

If BoSox beat the rays I want the Phillies to take the whole thing.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 7, 2008, 10:28 AM
I wouldn't mind seing a Dodgers v Red Sox series :)

I bet MLB would like the ratings that would come with that series too.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on October 7, 2008, 10:33 AM
I wasn't saying the Cubs choked...I was saying the Dodgers got no respect for absolutely destroying them and are a totally different team w/ Manny who they only had for what, 2 months?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 7, 2008, 08:53 PM
I wasn't saying the Cubs choked...I was saying the Dodgers got no respect for absolutely destroying them and are a totally different team w/ Manny who they only had for what, 2 months?

Oh I realize Scott, I just like twisting that knife in the side of the Cubs fans any chance I can get...

There had been a problem earlier that year with some fans that had jumped onto the field and beat up a coach from KC.

I got to my car and they had spit all over my car. Worst experience ever at a ballpark.

I remember that KC game.  That was the worst thing I think I've ever seen at a baseball game.  There was something in the air that year, because I think there was another incident where someone went after an ump too.  Under no circumstances should a fan ever go onto the field at a game.  Unless of course the fall over the railing going for a foul ball, but that's another discussion...

As far as your experience at the Twins game, I know what you're talking about.  I'm a Sox fan and I've almost gotten into fights with other Sox fans over their behavior at games.  My wife and I used to make a point of going to the inter-league games every year between the Cubs and Sox.  However, we stopped going to the games at The Cell because of the atmosphere.  When they still played night games at The Cell for that series, I came very close to getting into a fight with 3 guys as we were leaving the stadium because my wife was wearing her Cubs jersey.  It was the game where Carlos Lee hit a walk off Grand Slam for the Sox.  We were in the upper tank and were walking down the stairs to leave.  A guy saw my wife was a Cubs fan and decided it was a good idea to get in her face as she was trying to exit.  As he was yelling at her and pointing in her face I grabbed him by the throat and pushed him back into his row.  His two buddies were going to 'rescue' him but thought better of it for some reason.  I don't know if it was because they saw I was a Sox fan or because they had a moment of clarity and realized it wasn't smart to talk that way to a lady.  Either way, confrontation avoided.  However, my wife decided it was best to put on her coat as we were walking to our car...  I think I counted 5 fights that night...

Needless to say, after that year they no longer play that series at night, and we no longer attend those games.

If you avoid the upper tank, the crowd is usually a little better.  I've never seen any problems when I've been in the lower levels.  Now that we have the kids, we usually try to go on Sundays because those are the 'family' games.  It's a much more friendly atmosphere on Sundays...

I'll tell you what, if you and Justin ever think of going to another Twins series at The Cell, give me a shout.  I think it would be a good time to head down there with some MN fans.  And if you don't enjoy yourselves at the game because of the crowd, I'll pay for your tickets :)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 10, 2008, 02:52 AM
Phils win  ;D. Sweet Bay Jesus if Ryan Howard starts to hit sometime this post season, we are going to be a very hard team to beat. I know its only one game, but I still love the fact that no one is talking about Philly. Keep it up media, the us against the world mentality is very powerful
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 14, 2008, 09:32 AM
Ultimate conundrum for me. Grew up a Philies lover living just North of Phily and adopted the Dodgers when I move to LA. Still, Philies haven't won a series since 1980.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 14, 2008, 06:59 PM
Ultimate conundrum for me. Grew up a Philies lover living just North of Phily and adopted the Dodgers when I move to LA. Still, Philies haven't won a series since 1980.

I could move anywhere on the planet and will never stop being a Philadelphia fan.....its a curse.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 14, 2008, 10:51 PM
The idea that the Rays could win one of the first two games was believable.

That they could march into Boston and beat the crap out of Lester was very far fetched.

That they could do it again the next day is beyond belief.

Still 4 outs to go... but I'm feeling good about the Rays chances of hanging on to a 13-4 lead.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 15, 2008, 08:13 AM
Hats off to the Rays.  After looking flat in game 1, they've been loose ever since and the scoreboard shows it.  If the Rays win game 5 (and I fully expect them to), the least I hope for is the Sox don't play like a bunch of limp dicks and actually make a game of it instead of it being over in the first inning.  The Rays are the better team and have been the entire season.

With that said, I hope the Phillies smoke their asses in the World Series.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 15, 2008, 09:14 AM
As long as Boston isn't in the World Series I don't care who wins. It would be great to see the Rays win as they have had the storybook year and this would be the ultimate finish to the season. Any team that is haveing what is called a "Cinderella" season will for all time be compared to the 2008 Devil Rays.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 15, 2008, 10:20 AM
As long as Boston isn't in the World Series I don't care who wins. It would be great to see the Rays win as they have had the storybook year and this would be the ultimate finish to the season. Any team that is haveing what is called a "Cinderella" season will for all time be compared to the 2008 Devil Rays.

If you put any money down on them to win the world series at the start of the season, you'd be doing well.  I think they said last night that they were getting 100 to 1.

With that said, I hope the Phillies smoke their asses in the World Series.

Not going to happen (assuming everyone gets there).  The Tampa owns Philadelphia come playoff time.   :D

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jayson on October 15, 2008, 11:50 PM
Congrats Philly fans!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 16, 2008, 09:18 AM
Yay Phillies!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 17, 2008, 07:47 AM
Wow.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 17, 2008, 09:04 AM
I SO GD HATE THE BOSTON RED SUX!!!!



Freaking Tampa is up 7-0 and end up loosing 8-7. Last nights win is a momentum killer. Game 6 will be very very tough. I really want Tampa to win and will be cheering them on.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 17, 2008, 11:43 AM
If the Sawx come back to win the series, how do you think Boston will react when two of their teams lose championship in the same year. ;D Im a die hard Philly fan in every sport, but a part of me roots for the Red Sox. Maybe its my extreme hatred of the Yankees, or maybe its cuz of Mikey D, I dont know. In any case, Ill always root for Philly first and will be disappointed if they lose the WS.

Rob. Tampa cant own philly if they choke in the ALCS. Just saying.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 17, 2008, 12:18 PM
Rob. Tampa cant own philly if they choke in the ALCS. Just saying.

No doubt, but if you told me at the beginning of the series that the Rays would win 2 out of 3 in Boston and have 2 chances to close out at home, I'd have taken that in a heartbeat.

They scored 38 runs in their last 4 games, and have Shields going tomorrow.  There's no need to panic just  yet.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 18, 2008, 10:35 PM
I take it all back.  The Rays are clearly shell shocked after what happened in game 5 and the Sox suddenly have more confidence then they know what to do with.  If Tampa doesn't pull off a miracle of their own tonight, they're done for.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on October 19, 2008, 11:41 PM
Wow what a great series and Game 7

I think it should be a great World Series!


I am really happy the Twins gave up on Matt Garza  ::)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 19, 2008, 11:43 PM
Hell yeah.

Garza was completely money.

And David Price is for real.


Now it's time to stick it to Philly again.   ;D
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 20, 2008, 07:47 AM
Congrats to the Rays for not folding under the pressure like the Yanks and Indians.  They earned everything they got and deserve to go to the World Series.  I'll take solice in the fact that the Sox actually went down swinging and didn't give up (a bit easier to say after two World Series titles).  Garza pitched two outstanding games and beat the Sox best pitcher twice in the series, something not easy to do (although his constant spitting, made worse by the extreme closeups and HD, bugs the **** out of me.  Who the **** has that much saliva?).

Go Phils!  Do something the Eagles and Flyers couldn't and beat a team from Tampa St. Pete.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 20, 2008, 08:17 AM
Congrats to the Rays.  Way to stick with it and pull out the victory...  Man they gave Boston a lot of opportunities to score.  Reminded me of how the White Sox couldn't score against them at home either...

(although his constant spitting, made worse by the extreme closeups and HD, bugs the **** out of me.  Who the **** has that much saliva?).

Glad to know I wasn't the only one that was bothered by that.  Was it me or did it seem like TBS was intentionally going to different camera angles later in the game instead of the close-ups of him?  It seemed like around the 6th they finally realized that he was spitting so much and tried to avoid too many close-ups.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Dressel Rebel on October 20, 2008, 09:47 AM


World Series:  Tampa Bay over Pittsburgh in seven

Gonna be a crazy year!

Hrmmmm.  Not too bad actually Matt.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 21, 2008, 06:51 PM
Yuck, cant watch ESPN cuz they are riding Tampa's jock too hard, let alone every other sports media. Come Sunday, everyone will be talking about the parade down Broad St. And if by chance the Phils do lose, go ahead and quote this post with some smart ass response. Ill still be here being a homer
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on October 22, 2008, 01:34 PM
Hrmmmm.  Not too bad actually Matt.

Thanks.

I am the new Warlord of Sports Betting.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: ruiner on October 22, 2008, 01:49 PM
Should've put some money on that **** when the season started.

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 22, 2008, 03:02 PM
They were something like 200 to 1 to win the world series.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on October 22, 2008, 03:05 PM
Have they won the World Series yet?
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 22, 2008, 03:22 PM
Yes.  4 games to 2.  The MVP was Evan Longoria.

Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on October 22, 2008, 03:36 PM
Goddamnit!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 24, 2008, 09:36 AM
Three bad call over two games. Not a good trend. One of them last night might have cost Phili a run.  :(
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 24, 2008, 09:51 AM
Three bad call over two games. Not a good trend. One of them last night might have cost Phili a run.  :(

It's not going to matter if the Phils continue to not hit with runners in scoring position.  That same problem ultimately cost the Red Sox in the ALCS and if the Phils don't get their **** together in Philly, it could cost them as well.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 24, 2008, 12:19 PM
I think the only games the Phillies win are going to be the ones with Hammels starting.  The rest of their rotation isn't going to be able to beat the Rays batting.  And if Longoria and Pena ever start hitting, it's lights out.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 25, 2008, 10:07 AM
Three bad call over two games. Not a good trend. One of them last night might have cost Phili a run.  :(

It's not going to matter if the Phils continue to not hit with runners in scoring position. 

Can't disagree with that at all.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 26, 2008, 01:48 AM
F**K YES That is all.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 26, 2008, 10:05 AM
Yeah, that sucks.  It's kinda tough to hit when every pitch 7 inches off the plate is being called a strike.  Oh well.  I don't like the Rays chances anymore.  I think they had to beat every pitcher not named Cole to have a shot at this thing.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 26, 2008, 10:43 AM
Good not for PA sports fans yesterday, Penn State and the Phillies!
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 26, 2008, 07:14 PM
Rob as much as I like our chances, there is no way that anyone should believe this series is over. Now if Blanton wins tonight, I ll be a little more geeked, but this Rays team is still dangerous. Either they are too young to know they shouldnt be here, and win the whole thing, or they are too young and fold under the pressure. At this point I think its the first, but I gotta feeling about us. And unlike most of my feelings on Philadelphia teams, this one is positive.


By the way, I still hate ESPN. You would think the Rays are up 3-0
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Jeff on October 26, 2008, 11:33 PM
Rob as much as I like our chances, there is no way that anyone should believe this series is over.

How about now?   :-X
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 27, 2008, 12:08 AM
It's most assuredly over.  They're not beating Hamels, and they're not winning 3 straight. 





Oh, and the officiating crew has been downright horrible.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on October 27, 2008, 12:13 AM
So what's gonna happen with the fans in Philadelphia?  Are they going to be humble about winning their first professional sports championship in 25 years, or are they gonna be like the people in Boston, and turn into a bunch of dicks?

(Sorry, Mikey.) 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 27, 2008, 02:54 AM
I wanna say humble, but lets face it, we are kinda dicks anyway and we havent won anything in 25 years.

There are actually giving the city love on ESPN now, its gonna snow.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Matt on October 27, 2008, 04:12 AM
I wanna say humble, but lets face it, we are kinda dicks anyway

Good point.  (http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2820/lolxr4.gif)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 27, 2008, 08:15 AM
So what's gonna happen with the fans in Philadelphia?  Are they going to be humble about winning their first professional sports championship in 25 years, or are they gonna be like the people in Boston, and turn into a bunch of dicks?

(Sorry, Mikey.) 

Hey now. I've been a dick long before Boston teams started winning.

It's true, though.  Success brings out the ********.  But it's not just limited to Boston, it just happens that Boston is currently enjoying a run of championships and competitiveness.  I seem to remember Lakers fans and Yankees fans (especially) being just as bad when they were winning seemingly every year.

Good to see the Phils finally starting to hit.  Hopefully they win tonight.  Don't want to go back to the Trop after losing with your best pitcher on the mound and give the Rays hope.  End it tonight, celebrate and party hard.  Just don't burn down the city - I want to catch the Red Sox in Philly next year.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 27, 2008, 09:24 AM
So what's gonna happen with the fans in Philadelphia?  Are they going to be humble about winning their first professional sports championship in 25 years, or are they gonna be like the people in Boston, and turn into a bunch of dicks?

(Sorry, Mikey.) 

I won't take offense either (being from Philly.) However, in Philly, that's just they we they are, 24/7.  :-X
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 28, 2008, 08:11 AM
What a cluster****.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 28, 2008, 09:30 AM
Never quite expected that. Was interesting to learn that they could have called the game if the Rays hadn't scored. Even though I'm routing for the Philliies, that would have sucked.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 28, 2008, 09:37 AM
The umps did the right thing by allowing the Rays a chance to tie the game before calling it. The backlash that would have ensued would have been enormous.

IMHO if they had called the game without letting the Rays get a chance to tie it would have been a blow to baseball worst than the 1994 strike. The entire integrity of the game would have been destroyed. The backlash at Selig would have cost him the Commissioner job (not like he deserves it).
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2008, 10:31 AM
Yeah, the Rays scoring that tying run really let Baseball off the hook. 

Regardless, that game was bull****.  The strike zone was a joke, and they should never have been playing in that weather. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 28, 2008, 01:20 PM
Well this blows. Game 5 was just postponed until Wednesday night at the earliest. The weather here in south jersey is really crappy. About 40 degrees, strong winds, and pouring. Ive heard that Philly has seen snow flakes.

My question is who does this benefit more? Its potentially a 3 inning game. Do you throw your game 6 starter or led with the bullpen. How about Lidge for 3 innings :P
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 28, 2008, 02:31 PM
Well this blows. Game 5 was just postponed until Wednesday night at the earliest. The weather here in south jersey is really crappy. About 40 degrees, strong winds, and pouring. Ive heard that Philly has seen snow flakes.

My question is who does this benefit more? Its potentially a 3 inning game. Do you throw your game 6 starter or led with the bullpen. How about Lidge for 3 innings :P

I suspect taht they will go with the game 7 starters and if you need a game 7 then you have someone start on 3 day rest.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 28, 2008, 02:42 PM
I'd expect the Rays to go with David Price.  He's got closer type stuff, but is usually good for more innings.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 28, 2008, 04:43 PM
I read something on Yahoo this morning that both teams need to start with the same line-ups that they ended with yesterday.  And the Ray's manager said he had no intention of changing pitchers.  Granted this was last night, but I could see them keeping Balfour in...
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Scott on October 29, 2008, 10:08 PM
Congrats to the Phillies and their phans
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 29, 2008, 11:29 PM
Indeed - congrats.    :)


Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: I Am Sith on October 30, 2008, 08:35 AM
Congrats to the Phillies, their fans, to Rollins and Burrell for sticking it out so long in Philly and it paying dividends for them, and to Lidge who seems to have finally gotten over his 2005 post-season meltdowns.

I really hope Longoria doesn't allow his World Series performance to affect him too much moving forward.  He's a great player and has a great carreer ahead of him, so I'd just hate to have him labelled as the next A-Rod (where play-off performance is concerned).
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 30, 2008, 08:38 AM
First championship Ive seen in my life time and I was asleep. :( Its alright, Im out to buy my championship gear now.  ;D

Did you guys happen to see my post on Oct 1. Yea, I called it.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Mikey D on October 30, 2008, 08:54 AM
First championship Ive seen in my life time and I was asleep.


And I'll be giving you a bunch of **** for it this weekend.  You should have had Astar wake you up. Mom is mighty disappointed you missed it.  :-*

Congrats to the Phillies, their fans and to Philadelphia for finally winning a championship.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: knashdx on October 30, 2008, 09:05 AM
This has been one crazy playoff series. Congrats to the Phillies, they definitely played the better baseball. Congrats to the Rays for having a stupendous year, better luck next year.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Darth_Anton on October 30, 2008, 09:20 AM
Woo-hoo! 28 years, it's about time.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Morgbug on October 30, 2008, 09:58 AM
I'm happy for Utley and Rollins, two of my favorite players in baseball.  Happy for the fans in Philly as well. 
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on October 30, 2008, 04:16 PM
First championship Ive seen in my life time and I was asleep.


And I'll be giving you a bunch of **** for it this weekend.  You should have had Astar wake you up. Mom is mighty disappointed you missed it.  :-*

Congrats to the Phillies, their fans and to Philadelphia for finally winning a championship.

She forgot to wake me up, and I was awake since 2:30 am. Besides I was too nervous to watch it anyway. I knew they would win, but in the back of my mind I was waiting for the choke.
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2008, 04:18 PM
I'm happy for Utley and Rollins, two of my favorite players in baseball.  Happy for the fans in Philly as well. 

The ones who throw batteries at opposing players?  Or the handful of normal ones?   ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: Sugart on November 2, 2008, 03:15 PM
I'm happy for Utley and Rollins, two of my favorite players in baseball.  Happy for the fans in Philly as well. 

The ones who throw batteries at opposing players?  Or the handful of normal ones?   ;)

Yup, not even tiny AAA's, but F-ing D's baby.

Chase Utley is the f***ing man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwOroBj13eE&feature=related
Title: Re: MLB 2008
Post by: stormie on November 12, 2008, 10:07 AM
Well, the post-season awards are underway, and I'm quite pleased that the Giants' Tim Lincecum won the NL Cy Young award. In the midst of a dismal season, he was definitely a very bright spot.