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Title: The Clone Wars - Season One Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 3, 2008, 08:13 PM
Just thought I'd start up a place for us to discuss the new weekly series, starting tonight.  Two new episodes scheduled for tonight: "Ambush" featuring Yoda and some clones, and "Rising Malevolence" featuring Anakin, Ahsoka, and Plo Koon...and I'm guessing some more clones :).  Anyways, feel free to discuss the series here, for those who are watching.  I also just read that the episodes will be available for download on itunes starting tomorrow (new one each week), for $1.99 each.  Just as a heads up for everyone, if interested.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 3, 2008, 08:16 PM
Cool, I'm looking forward to it! ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 3, 2008, 10:18 PM
Hmmm...I think that like the movie, there are gonna be some mixed reviews for the show. I personally think it was very enjoyable, very entertaining, and a solid effort to please fans, but not without a couple tiny flaws here and there.

"Ambush" - I loved seeing Master Yoda in this one, his personality really seemed more Empire Strikes Back-ish in this episode than it did in any of the prequels and that was very nice to see. It worked well without seeming too forced. Very, very enjoyable. The ending with the clones' last shot hitting the rocks to destroy the droidekas was pretty awesome. I also liked how Yoda kicked Ventress' ass at the end so effortlessly and how she had to chicken out very similar to the way Dooku chickened out at the end of AOTC. Overall it was pretty excellent, with one exception...the battle droids. Unlike many others, I loved their little moments in the movie and thought they were hysterical; but in both episodes tonight they just went on and on and on and on. It got VERY annoying, and I'm worried that won't be going away any time soon. I still loved them in the movie...but again, it'll get pretty boring week after week.
 
So yeah, this episode gets an A-. I would've given it a B, but Yoda was just so good in this episode, and I was really happy with that. :)


"Rising Malevolence" - This one was a bit of a mixed bag for me. Not nearly as good as "Ambush," that's for sure. I was pleased with Plo Koon's character, and it was nice to finally hear him talk. I was equally pleased to see General Grievous back to being almost as badass as he was in the first series, after being kind of a bummer in ROTS. Anakin and Ahsoka, well, they're Anakin and Ahsoka. Ahsoka's always gonna bug a lot of people. I think she's tolerable, and her relationship with Anakin was actually fun to watch in this episode. However, this episode was a little boring compared to the previous episode and became a little predictable after a while.

Overall, it was still entertaining. B-.

Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: I Am Sith on October 3, 2008, 10:49 PM
I liked both episodes, although I have to say I liked Yoda's episode more.  I really liked how they incorporated some of his mannerisms from ESB into the character being portrayed in this episode.  Well done overall, and I'm looking forward to more of the stories they showed clips from tonight (like the Kit Fisto/Mon Cal episode).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: speedermike on October 3, 2008, 11:13 PM
I actually liked the Battledroid humor.  To me, they seem really demented, not just silly.  Especially during the lifepod hunting scene.  That made them a little scary in my eyes.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Scott on October 4, 2008, 12:16 AM
I absolutely loved Ambush, the other one was alright.

Not a huge fan of the amount and length of commercials >:(
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2008, 01:27 AM
Yeah, commercials blow and detract from it but such is TV I guess.

I loved it though...  Both episodes were good, and the pattern I'm seeing is something akin to the 2D toons.  Seems to me that they'll be taking a linear story and breaking it up (IE: the story of the CW Movie getting episodes here and there that continue that storyline), while other episodes will seemingly stand on their own similar to the CW2D series that had many little "single" shows that didn't tie together really.

Ambush was incredible...  It was classic Yoda goodness, being Yoda.  The droid humor I don't mind and think it's good for kids, plus it's fun making it clear that droids = dumb compared to sentient beings.  I loved how Yoda treated the Clones as though they were "children" he wanted to teach and broaden their lives and minds.  It's reminiscent of the way the Clones are (and are treated) in the Republic Commando series of books.  It also expands on the notion that the Clones are genuinely cared about by the Jedi, and that makes their "turn" oh so tragic in ROTS.  It's the kind of detail that really adds to the movies.

The second episode that was sort of a continuation of the movie (sorta) was cool and seems like it is going to be a part of a greater, longer, story arc.  I loved the droid hunters in space, and they really were sadistic, I agree.  The gruesome death of the Clones was pretty neat too...  I found that very adult for the series and cool.

And who knew Plo Koon was going to be made into one of the bad ass Jedi?  I mean the guy never does **** in the movies but now he's a mean mofo, and a cool Jedi kids are gonna go nuts over.

My gf's youngest loved it and already was saying, "I want _______ to be made" for various things from specific Clones to droids to separatists and weapons and stuff.  The mark of a true well crafted toy sales driver I suppose.

And how many toys did you see possible in just these two episodes yourselves as collectors?  I saw tons of crap...  Anakin's Freighter would be something I cannot imagine they won't make at this point. 

And does anyone else want Toydarian Troops?  I know I do.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 4, 2008, 08:08 AM
I loved both episodes as well. I was more partial to the Yoda one though, it felt like the Yoda from my childhood mixed with the ferocious Yoda from EII & EIII. The clones continue to impress with their firepower, their individual demeanor and their in-the-field banter. I love the "clankers" and "rollers" call outs regarding the droids and the Droidekas.

The second episode was chock full of ESB nods and I think was gears toward the older viewer. I like the reference to Han "this one goes there, that one goes there line" the revelation of the "Ion Cannon" technology and Ahsoka's and Master Plo's sensing each other through the force like Leia and Luke. Plus the Pod "1977" easter egg was cute too.

As for the toys, 2 episodes in and there's a season's worth of potential.
- the Yoda's cruiser pilot with the Jango-esque head gear
- the green/yellow deco battle droids
- Commander Thire for sure
- Master Plo's Clones (Wolfee, Boost etc.)
- All the Toydarians
- Holo Dooku
- the Twilight

I'm sure there are more but definitely enough the sustain the CW subline.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: evenflow on October 4, 2008, 08:54 AM
I thought Ambush was great, and excellant way to start off the series. The second episode was good, but not as good as the first.

I also enjoy the battle droids.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 4, 2008, 09:15 AM
Pretty much what others have said, I liked them both - but really loved the Ambush episode.  I wish we would have seen a little more of that OT-ish Yoda in the prequels, and this episode had a great mix of the mischievious Yoda and the badass lightsaber wielding one.  I liked how easily he took care of Asaaj, and enjoyed his interactions with his trio of clones as well.

The second episode was good too.  Plo Koon has always been my favorite "background Jedi", so it was nice to see him get some attention (and speak).  I figured they would try to make him pretty cool with Dave Filoni's well-known love of him - and it came off pretty well.  I also noticed the OT nods, and you can see how the show can/will skirt the line between kids and adults with the fairly dark clone/officer death scenes.  I didn't mind the droid humor/goofiness that much either, but I can see how it would get to be a little much for some people.  I kind of viewed it as crazy/sadistic too, as mentioned earlier.  Overall though, a couple of good episodes, and I know I'll be tuning in every week.  Oh, and lots of toy potential already, like you guys mentioned.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 4, 2008, 11:01 AM
Yeah, between the Toydarians, the clones, and the new battle droid decos, I'd be up for at least two "Ambush"-themed battle packs. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: speedermike on October 4, 2008, 11:11 AM
Guys...the toy "wants" from this show are going to unlike anything we've ever seen.  Look at us, after two epsides we're already making lists!
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Daigo-Bah on October 4, 2008, 11:34 AM
Yeah, both episodes were really good!  I already like it better than the Tartakovsky micro-series because it seems to follow a more realistic dynamic (things like Mace Windu "flying" and Yoda causing enormous ships to crash in the cartoon was over the top).  Here, a small battalion of droids and tanks were giving Yoda a little more challenge, which ties in better to the films.  Loved the classic Yoda theme as he's talking to the clones in their cave.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: DSJ™ on October 4, 2008, 01:25 PM
We don't get the cartoon till tomorrow night & I think it's only 1 episode, I just watched these on someplace called internets (http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/internet/). The copies are great & so is the sound & no commercials.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 4, 2008, 01:31 PM
We don't get the cartoon till tomorrow night & I think it's only 1 episode, I just watched these on someplace called internets (http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/internet/). The copies are great & so is the sound & no commercials.

As for the show, both were great, really digging the 3 stooges route with the battle droids as with Anakin & Ahsoka which reminds kinda me of Laurel & Hardy. Plo Koon just kicks ass!
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 4, 2008, 02:00 PM
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I liked how easily he took care of Asaaj
 

Excellent point I forgot... 

The way Yoda basically bitch slaps Assajj is great.  She's very afraid of him compared to Skywalker, Kenobi, etc.  I liked how they didn't play around with this or even hint that she's confident enough to take on Yoda.  They made it clear cut that there's a big gap between Yoda and Assajj, and she knew it.  Only Dooku feels powerful enough to take him on and Assajj is truly just a "child" by comparison.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: iFett on October 4, 2008, 04:35 PM
I enjoyed both of the episodes - obviously leaning towards Ambush as most of you are.  Really loved the ESB Yoda laughs here and there.  I'm also finding the clones to be very interesting character wise as this avenue obviously wasn't explored in the flicks. 

Not going into detail, but much better than the "movie" IMO especially since I didn't have to fork over $7.50 to watch these.  I've said it about the "movie" and I think they're overplaying this holo thing a bit too much.  I'm sure Hasbro will make every character in blue if they continue the animated line.

I had to pause the Video Cassette Recorder "VCR" when the Twilight was docked in the bay for a size comparison with the Gunships.  Yup...This sucker is huge.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 4, 2008, 06:48 PM
An interesting bit on the Twilight I read today on SW.com. It says that the Twilight was originally used to smuggle spice. I wonder if this "spice frieghter" was the same one that Luke heard about from his uncle.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theo Zissou on October 4, 2008, 11:48 PM
oh wow that is a cool little connection. now all they need to do is take the twilight back to tat so owen can see him in it.

I loved both episodes as well. ambush was sooooo good. when yoda took away ventress lightsabers i got the feeling he broke them before sending them back to her.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 6, 2008, 01:40 AM
Jayson, that's probably one of the most astute observations I've read so far...  Thanks!  That really actually made me grin when I read it, and I'd have never put that together...  Pretty cool thinking on that one though...  Makes total sense, if Owen had heard of Anakin's exploits or perhaps they "got together" when he crashed the Twilight on Tatooine even?

While watching the Steeler game tonight, I flicked around watching CW toon stuff too as they reaired tonight.

I think they're fantastic.  Ir eally didn't feel let down by the movie at all and these are great extensions.  I thought the Yoda episode was a good standalone of course, but the Ambush episode wasn't as good to you guys?  Come on!  The Clones getting sucked into space, the sadistic droids, the cool "broadside" Ion Cannon, Grievous getting "antsy" when Dooku tells him he's going to discuss it with his master, Plo Koon and the Clones escaping the blast, Anakin & Co. coming to save them in his new pimp ride?

That's pretty neat stuff to me and sets up another episode I think to continue the "main heroes" storyline.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Ben on October 6, 2008, 02:01 AM
I liked both episodes, the first probably being my favorite. I find the producers are making something both audiences can enjoy, and I like that. I was talking about this with Spuffy and Darth Rock Friday night, and the only thing we didn't like was all the phone calls made in the second episode. And we still have yet to see what Mace Windu looks like, since he's only been a hologram in the movie and series so far.

Can't wait for more.  :)
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 6, 2008, 04:35 AM
Thanks for the link Dale!  I just came in here to see if there were any links since I worked on Friday night.  I'm downloading it right now...
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 6, 2008, 12:11 PM
I noticed that the Official Site has launched the Clone Wars Episode Guide, which has a lot of details, summaries, trivia and more about the individual episodes:

Ambush (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode001.html)

Rising Malevolence (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode002.html)

Also, for anyone who misses the episodes when the air/re-air, it sounds like Star Wars.com and CartoonNetwork.com will have free streaming episodes a week after they air (with only two available for free at any one time).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: jedipurge on October 6, 2008, 01:09 PM
After seeing this I really wish they'd have gone a more realistic styling with the animation, only cause I want the toys to be in the same realistic styling as we've already had so far, as far as the actual toon it's fine.  I can't see myself buying too many CW fig just for the cool gear they're bound to have with upcoming figures.  GATTLING GUN, ROCHET LAUNCHER, DOUBLE HOLSTERS-KAMA, GERNADE BANDOLIER, that's just things off the top off my head that I want for the realistic style troops that we don't have.

As far as the Episodes they were both great.  Ambush was awesome for everything that everyone has already mentioned.  I like how Yoda knows the troops names, really that'd be kinda hard when they basically look the same, except hair style, age, scars, and tats.  I also liked the tat that one of the clones had that was on the back/side of his neck and kinda gave the hint that it went on down beneath the "collar" of the body suit.  The humor of the BD's I love, really it has to be there somewhere it's not going to be a kid friendly cartoon if it's all battles and no funny.

Malovelance was great, slow on the action but you're not going to expect that with every episode 'cause even though we all love action if they don't have the slow parts it will just be over the top.  As far as the BD's in space wouldn't just sending a lone fighter out there be more efficient?  just blast a hole in the viewport anf be done with it, why need a crusher/pincer ship and so many BD's when one lone ship/driod could do it?  I know it made very better action I suppose but in a realistic sense wouldn't that be better.  That and if Plo could use the Force to manuver the "dead" pod around to see into the viewport why couldn't he hurdle a piece of debris at the Hunters ship and destroy them before they even got close?

All in all I really enjoyed them both and the fact that it's just not about Anakin, Ahsoka, & Obi.  It seemed that while they were in Malevolance it seemed that most of the episode was concentrated on Plo and his troops.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: name on October 6, 2008, 02:58 PM
I also thought that the Ashoka moment where she senses Plo Koon's distress was an almost exact shot of Leia sensing Luke on Bespin.

By far, though, my favorite OT nod was this shot:

(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode002/illo01.jpg)


Dead on the same shot as the Death Star firing in both Eps IV and VI.  Right down to the droids doing the same "hide your eyes" gesture.

That one detail has always made me laugh...the Imperial training program of "you will have to be in a small space with a beam of energy powerful enough to destroy a planet..ummmm....be sure and hide your eyes as it passes."  It's like the old duck and cover filmstrips for nuclear attack.

Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 6, 2008, 03:11 PM
I had to pause the Video Cassette Recorder "VCR" when the Twilight was docked in the bay for a size comparison with the Gunships.  Yup...This sucker is huge.

I caught that when seeing a replay as well, that is sure a big ship - and, at least so far, seems to be getting a lot of attention so its possible it will see a toy sometime soon as well.  I wonder what scale it will be in at that point, but its yet another one of the great toy ideas from this series already.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 7, 2008, 12:36 PM
I noticed that the Official Site has a new web comic up leading into this Friday's new episode (its at the end, behind the previous two comics, from what I could see).  Its really nice to see that overall in this thread that it seems like almost everyone enjoyed the episodes, and there isn't a lot of negativity coming about so far.  I was listening to a podcast this morning (Star Wars Action News) and their discussion of the episode, and I couldn't believe all the problems some of them discussed on there.  Granted, its the nature of fandom (and Star Wars fandom in particular) to complain - and its everyone's right - but sometimes I'm astonished how often some people have just forgotten how to have fun and enjoy something.

I'm not saying this show (or Star Wars, or anything else) is perfect, but it seems like most of us understand that this is primarily geared to hook in new fans, and also appeal to fans like us - and it isn't meant to be strictly an "adults only" show.  Anyways, just a general comment, but this podcast had complaints about too many OT nods, the "logic" of Star Wars and the attacks of the Battle Droids, of course the battle droid humor, among other things.  Sure, there is good and bad, but I'm happy to see that most of our community here seems to be having fun with the show so far.  Hopefully the quality will continue.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 7, 2008, 03:07 PM
I was just reading this article (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18348) discussing the Clone Wars, and it mentions that Seth Green (Robot Chicken) is voicing Kit Fisto, and also says (unless they are confused with the movie) that Sam Jackson is voicing Mace Windu in the series.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 7, 2008, 11:48 PM
Jackson is indeed voicing Windu.  I'd not heard the Seth Greene thing but that's cool.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 8, 2008, 03:31 PM
The official site has a preview (with video) up for this week's episode, Shadow of Malevolence (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode003.html).  I really like those Y-Wing bombers, hopefully we'll see one of those next year in the Hasbro line.  I thought I was getting out of the prequel era vehicles, but some of these designs will make it difficult.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2008, 10:37 AM
I see the first two episodes are now online to watch over at StarWars.com, for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2008, 11:29 AM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/100810-CloneWarsDispatch.html) has their weekly Clone Wars feature up, and they specifically talk about the Y-Wing bombers and how they are the same Y-Wings seen in the OT.  They mention (what has been discussed here before) the idea that the Rebellion was sort of using "leftovers" from the Clone Wars, and those Y-Wings (they also talk about X-Wings) were stripped down versions of these original ones, used in the CW.  Anyways, just thought I'd pass it along.  I almost wish Lucas would have put more of this type of stuff in the movies.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Keonobi on October 10, 2008, 12:19 PM
Who is the voice for Plo Koon, he sounds like Tree-Beard (you know the Ent from LOTR).

I didn't get to watch the first two episodes when the were broadcast, but I had recorded them.  Overall I have to say they were pretty awesome.  Sure its a kid oriented show, but I like how it explores a period of Galactic history which is very rich, but hasn't been explored to any great extent.  I've read a fair amount of the Star Wars novels, and we've been told a lot that Grevious is some sort of tactical and strategic genius, but we haven't been shown it.  Atleast the episode with the big ion cannon started to explore that idea.  Even if he was thwarted by Anakin (who was after all "the best start pilot in the galaxy").

Something I've never quite understood is how come anytime someone turns on their little holographic communicator the other person is ready to talk?  The only exception being when Thire tells the King that Yoda wants to talk.  (Think back to ROTS as soon as Grevious is ready to talk Sidious is already on the line).

The channel guide for tonight seemed to show three episodes.  There was a repeat of Rising Malevolence, then a new episode, and then another show labelled "Star Wars", but there was no show info.  Anyone know what that third show is?  I've set it up to record anyway....
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 10, 2008, 12:46 PM
Who is the voice for Plo Koon, he sounds like Tree-Beard (you know the Ent from LOTR).

I believe that he's voiced by James Arnold Taylor, who also voices Obi-Wan Kenobi, but I'm not 100% positive on that.  I thought that I heard that somewhere though.  I am pretty certain that he isn't voiced by John Rhys-Davies (Gimli/Treebeard/Sallah from Indiana Jones).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 10, 2008, 12:59 PM
The channel guide for tonight seemed to show three episodes.  There was a repeat of Rising Malevolence, then a new episode, and then another show labelled "Star Wars", but there was no show info.  Anyone know what that third show is?  I've set it up to record anyway....

According to Cartoon Network's schedule, Rising Malevolence is on at 8:00 followed by an new episode "Shadow of Malevolence" at 8:30, then Ben 10 is on.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Keonobi on October 10, 2008, 01:37 PM
The channel guide for tonight seemed to show three episodes.  There was a repeat of Rising Malevolence, then a new episode, and then another show labelled "Star Wars", but there was no show info.  Anyone know what that third show is?  I've set it up to record anyway....

According to Cartoon Network's schedule, Rising Malevolence is on at 8:00 followed by an new episode "Shadow of Malevolence" at 8:30, then Ben 10 is on.

I think the third show was on at 10:30-11:00

Nevermind, I think its a rebroadcast of the Shadow of Malevolence.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 10, 2008, 02:13 PM
THey can just quit mentioning X-Wings NOW because X-Wings did NOT exist during the CW.  >:(  I hate EU rewriting if that's what they're going for.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 10, 2008, 09:21 PM
About half way through this episode and I've come to realize that the first 3 episodes have been better than TPM and AOTC combined.  :P

Highlights so far:
Y-Wing bombers (Shadow Squadron)
4-legged Gonk
the nod to the red, white & blue R2 unit from the Target exclusive ARC-170 Battle Pack
The medical transports and base
more sadism from Grievous
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darby on October 10, 2008, 09:43 PM
These are better, and it's primarily because the show so far evokes the elementals of the OT - Romanticism and adventure.  The images of the nebula gas whale things were pure Star Wars, as was the Y-Wings taking flight.  I loved the clone pilots in this too.  One thing I never got is why in the OT pilots have gear, yet Jedi get into star fighters (and every other single situation) without ever adding anything much beyond a headset.  You'd think if Lucas were really only out to sell toys, he'd have Obi and Anakin in a new costume every episode.  Has to drive the Hasbro guys nuts.  But the clones though... I guess they make up for it.   :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 11, 2008, 01:40 AM
Another fantastic episode...

The 4-legged Gonk was a favorite of mine too Jay, and I really hope for a figure of that now.  A cool take on an old favorite, and it shows you can even make GONK droids new and unique in some way.

The Y-Wings rock balls, and if they ever made it to-scale I'd go nuts.  I love the retro turret but it tanked the existance of 2-seater Y-Wings in EU that sit back-to-back with the pilots.  I'm sure something will be figured out to has that out but still I liked it anyway, they were cool.

I liked the Clone Medical Transports too.  Corellian designs and fit with the notion that Corellian design in ships is extensive and has many similarities (Corvettes, Mod. Corvettes, Gunships, etc., etc.). 

In general it was just another great episode and I love this show...  It's given me purpose on Friday nights at this point.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 11, 2008, 07:17 AM
The 4-legged Gonk was a favorite of mine too Jay, and I really hope for a figure of that now.  A cool take on an old favorite, and it shows you can even make GONK droids new and unique in some way.

No doubt. According to SW.com (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode003.html), they are actually called "Plunk" Droids and that is the sound they make as well. Tee hee.

(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode003/plunk.jpg)

Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 13, 2008, 03:09 PM
I really enjoyed Friday's episode as well, and like Jesse, I'm really liking this series so far.  Its appointment viewing/DVRing for me right now.  Like others, I really liked the Y-Wings, and hope we see those in toy form sometime soon.  Also caught a lot more OT line references this episode, which is kind of cool.  I've heard some comments on how they are overdoing them, but I guess they haven't bothered me.

Also, here's the Episode Guide (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode003.html) for this episode, at the Official Site.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 13, 2008, 05:22 PM
I don't think they're overdoing much of anything...  Is Ahsoka's nicknaming everyone sorta dumb?  Eh, maybe...  I don't care though, she's a good character and the ying to Anakin's Yang...  err something like that.

I like seeing this much battle, death, destruction...  The separatists are real jerkoffs in this series, the Jedi clearly aren't comfortable with the "using" of living beings like the Clones, and just a myriad of other cool crap.  It's a fun show to watch, and I'm geeked for Fridays now.

If I had one gripe, it's that episodes are too short.  I'd love hour long episodes, and given that it's animated I don't see why they didn't go that route.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Reid on October 13, 2008, 10:19 PM
I still haven't seen any of the episodes from this series. Anyone know if CN will be replaying all of them any time soon?

I also haven't picked up Force Unleashed yet. Geez I am behind with all the new Star Wars releases.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 13, 2008, 10:32 PM
You can watch the first 2 episode at SW.com, but if you'd want to catch them on tv, friday's new episode re-airs on the following Sunday at the same time 8:30 pm.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 13, 2008, 11:01 PM
Friday also shows both last week's and the new one...  They usually seem to air the new one a couple times a week though.  I sadly watch it if it's on and I'm not watching something else...  and sometimes even when I am watching something else.  I'm addicted.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 14, 2008, 09:45 AM
This week's comic update (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/comic/) is now up (its at the end of the current comic).  This previews this week's episode.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Keonobi on October 14, 2008, 09:48 AM
This week's comic update (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/comic/) is now up (its at the end of the current comic).  This previews this week's episode.

How come they don't include these comics at the beginning of the episodes?  I guess they want us to watch the show, and to go to the website to read this, etc.  That way we touch more of their media, meaning bigger advertising revenue, etc.  I just think this comics are neat and really complement the show well.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 15, 2008, 05:49 AM
Just caught the episode online (http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/internet/star_wars_the_clone_wars/), great stuff. The plunk droid is cool but those Y-Wings... fricken' sweet.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 17, 2008, 11:41 AM
Going back a bit to the debut episode, but I've heard/read some comments online (and we've discussed here) how Yoda in this episode was more along the lines of the ESB Yoda.  A point relating to this that I've heard is how the Yoda in the prequels was missing both the playfulness and the confidence that the Yoda we met in Empire really exuded.  The way he knew he could lift the X-Wing from the swamp is similar to how he so effortlessly dispatches Asaaj Ventress in a confident matter.  Plus, like we've mentioned here, there's the humor aspect.  The little laugh that we first heard in ESB returned in that episode, and I don't know that we hardly heard that at all in the prequels - maybe aside from the youngling training scene.  Anyways, just an interesting concept that I've heard brought up again.  I would have liked seeing a little more of the characterization of Yoda that we saw in the OT and this Clone Wars episode applied in the prequel movies.  He was so serious and even unsure of his decisions a lot of the time in the prequels, which isn't the same Yoda we know.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 17, 2008, 06:45 PM
I was very, very pleased with Yoda as well. :)

Oh and thanks for posting Brian, I had completely forgotten that the show was on tonight. :o


Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 17, 2008, 09:34 PM
Tonight's episode was rather anti-climactic to the "Malevolence" story arc. There were a few highlights but this seemed a lot like AOTC's Droid Foundry sequence to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 17, 2008, 10:06 PM
I liked it. Threepio and Artoo's banter was very enjoyable, and the lightsaber duel was cool. Anyone else catch the "Hello there" line from ROTS? :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on October 17, 2008, 10:15 PM
Anyone else catch the "Hello there" line from ROTS? :D

No, but now that you mention it, it makes Obi-Wan's line in ROTS very humorous.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: BrentS on October 18, 2008, 12:05 AM
My 9 year old son and I strapped into the CW tonight.  We both were cracking up at the Obi-Wan/ Anakin banter.  I also really enjoyed the battle droids tonight.  Sometimes I think there humor is a bit overdone but tonight's episode felt really cool.

So how long before Greivous get's his cape back?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 18, 2008, 12:15 AM
I enjoyed it a lot actually... 

Watching a behind-the-scenes thing, I'm really geeked at how they mimiced (till tonight) the hunting and destruction of the German battleship Bismark.  I'd not really noticed the parallels till I watched the documentary, and then it all made sense...

For those not familiar to the story, the Bismark was a massive ship built by the Germans in WW2, and launched against England/Allied vessels.  It was going to be a real pain in the ass to shipping, not to mention it outmatched every vessel the British had really.

It destroyed the British ship the Hood, which was the first to find it.  However it was immobilized by one of the first torpedo plane attacks of the war by the British, which damaged its rudder.  It was making a run away from a large British fleet who were trying to catch up to it, and it was trying to make port in occupied France for safety.  The torpedo planes locked the ships rudder though, so it couldn't maneuver, and it was sank with very few of the crew surviving then once it was tracked down.

The ending of the Malevolence isn't exactly similar, but the earlier parts certainly had a lot of similarities.  I thought the fleet was going to catch it and destroy it actually, tying it pretty well to the Bismark story.  It's kind of neat that a WW2 battle/scenario was mimiced just like was done for the Death Star assault though, don't you think?

Anyhoo I really liked tonights episode...  Lots of Jedi action, lots of Grievous...  I though the droids were funny, and I laughed out loud when Kenobi tried saving 3PO.   Whoops!  All going back to the galactic "who gives a ****" attitude towards droids it seems.

I thought the droids were funny too, and I dug the fire-control droids that came into the hangar to put out the fire from Padme's ship.

In general, a fun episode...  Had some space battling, some good interior action on the Malevolence, and I like how Grievous just shut his communications off with Dooku.  ;D  A good ending I thought, but abrupt for certain.  Next week's preview had me drooling...  Lotsa good Clone Warrin' next week.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Nicklab on October 19, 2008, 06:16 PM
The chase and interior of the Malevolence reminded me of a few things.  The plot of the Jedi & company making their way through the ship reminded me of the rebels in the Death Star in ANH.  But there were also hints of the droid factory chase in AOTC, but also Grievous chasing Shaak Ti and Palpatine through Coruscant in the original Clone Wars series.

But that big open space in the middle of the ship and the rail transport?  That kind of reminded me of the Cygnus in The Black Hole.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theo Zissou on October 19, 2008, 10:29 PM
Another cool episode. I'm starting to think this Malevolence storyline would of been better recieved as the movie storyline for theaters.

Those fire droids were pretty cool looking. This is one varient of the battle droid i would like to see in figure form.

Ha Grevious cutting off Dooku. makes you wonder where he hypered off to.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 20, 2008, 12:44 PM
The Episode Guide (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode004.html) for last Friday's episode "Destroy Malevolence" is now up at the Official Site.

Like others, I enjoyed this episode as well.  I just continue to look forward to this series each week, and like Jesse mentioned, next week's clonetastic episode looks pretty cool as well.  I'm not trying to bag on the prequels once again or anything, as I do enjoy those movies (or at least parts of them), but I really like the "feel" of this animated series so far - and wish we could have seen more of this in the prequels (in some ways, at least).  Anyways, I think the series has been great so far, and I look forward to it each week.  Like I saw many mention about the movie as well, but I would think young kids would be all over this as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 21, 2008, 11:52 AM
The Official Site has a preview of this week's episode, "Rookies" (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000702.html) up now - it looks like a good one to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 24, 2008, 10:04 AM
The new preview comic for this week's episode, "Rookies", is now up at the Official Site.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on October 25, 2008, 01:06 PM
I thought that was another excellent episode last night, I'm loving this show! :)

Looking forward to the Search for R2-D2 in two weeks...
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2008, 09:36 AM
I agree, another great episode this week - and I really liked the focus on the clones as well.  This series, at least so far, has really made them shine.  I've really been digging this series overall so far, its going to be tough waiting two weeks for another episode now ;).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2008, 10:14 AM
I just noticed that TV.com (http://www.tv.com/star-wars-the-clone-wars/show/73668/episode_listings.html) has the episode title listings for the next five episodes, just thought I'd pass them along:

Downfall of a Droid
Duel of the Droids
Bombad Jedi
The Lair of General Grievous
Cloak of Darkness

There is also a short synopsis for each episode if you click on them individually - I won't post them here for the spoiler sensitive, but it gives you a nice idea of who will be appearing and what is on the way.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 27, 2008, 10:31 AM
Bombad Jedi

Oh, I can't wait to read people's reviews of this episode...   :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on October 27, 2008, 10:36 AM
We are 1 week behind in Canada, just watched Destroy Malevolence. Pretty good episode, man those battle droids are nothing but stooges  :D  & Grievous cutting off Dooku... sweet!  ;D

Looking forward to Rookies, hopefully that will air this Sunday.

Oh good god! I just read that Bombad Jedi overview & saw who was in it....

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Rune Haako on October 27, 2008, 12:19 PM
The Lair of General Grievous is actually episode 12.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: BrentS on October 27, 2008, 08:34 PM


Oh good god! I just read that Bombad Jedi overview & saw who was in it....


Meeesa thinks it could be comical indeed.  I'm actually looking forward to the animated take on that.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 27, 2008, 09:15 PM
Jar Jar's brief appearance in commercials seemed a little funnier than Lucas made him out to be, and he's definitely a "cuter" character animated.  I'm thinking, given how cleverly they've taken Lucas' characters and made them fun and more interesting, that the CW3D toon could do good things with Jar Jar in a single episode, or even sneaking him in now and then.  I'm definitely liking the series sso much that I'll gladly given them the benefit of the doubt.

After Episode 1, I didn't feel the same way about Lucas and the Jar Jar character so I figure that must count for something in my own mind.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on October 27, 2008, 09:39 PM
I'm digging the WWII feel that the show has like the pin-ups on the walls and some other things.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on October 30, 2008, 03:45 PM
Although we have an extra week to wait for the new episode (nothing this Friday), the Official Site does have the preview (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000703.html) up for "Downfall of a Droid".
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theo Zissou on October 31, 2008, 01:20 AM
Jar Jar's brief appearance in commercials seemed a little funnier than Lucas made him out to be, and he's definitely a "cuter" character animated.  I'm thinking, given how cleverly they've taken Lucas' characters and made them fun and more interesting, that the CW3D toon could do good things with Jar Jar in a single episode, or even sneaking him in now and then.  I'm definitely liking the series sso much that I'll gladly given them the benefit of the doubt.

After Episode 1, I didn't feel the same way about Lucas and the Jar Jar character so I figure that must count for something in my own mind.

I agree. I'm really looking forward to this episode. I love the look of the animated jar jar. When they make the jar jar figure they need to throw in the jedi cloak :p
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on October 31, 2008, 02:35 AM
I've been enjoying the series well enough.

I agree with those who feel the clones are really great in this series. I actually think they need to either do more with Cody and Rex or make more clones series regulars. Or, I suppose if they got really crazy they could make non-clone characters more interesting.

I don't have the problem with Ahsoka some people on the Internet seem to have. As mentioned, are the nicknames annoying? Sure. Can I ignore them? Sure. She's not one-tenth as annoying as Jar-Jar. I'm really interested in finding out what happens to her character. I hope she survives Order 66 and goes one on one with Vader. I think they could really do something great with that.

Individually, I've liked all of the episodes, but I think the Malevolence storyline stuck around an episode too long for me. One of those (don't feel like looking to decide which) was my least favorite so far, and my favorite has been Rookies. I loved the line, "Heavy really did hate that place." Rex and Cody got laughs out of me as Rex tried to impersonate a commando droid to get into the outpost.

I pretty much signed up here at JediDefender because it seems like this is one of the few places I can discuss the show without wading through senseless bashing. I can't even talk to my off-line friends about it, because they're stuck in the "Worst Star Wars Ever," "Killing Star Wars," Never Watching Star Wars Again" mindsets that make it nearly impossible to even discuss what I don't like about the show let alone what I do like about it.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention that I will be upset if this show doesn't have some Republic Commandos in it, preferably soon. There is some indication that the two scouts who reported the location of the Teth Monestary were Kom'rk and Jaing, two of the Null ARCs from Traviss's books but I don't know if that was the initial intent or if it was decided retroactively.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2008, 05:19 PM
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I pretty much signed up here at JediDefender because it seems like this is one of the few places I can discuss the show without wading through senseless bashing.

Heh...  Well welcome aboard TP-LM, and glad you're joining in...  I've read some "discussion" elsewhere too, and basically when all you have is people ******** all over it then you don't have much reason to join in...  I get if you didn't like an episode and you pop in with "why", but to repeatedly, again and again, state you just don't like the series...  What's the point?  Say it once and don't come back to the thread is my opinion...  At some point you begin looking like a troll digging for a fight.

Anyway, on the WW2 aspect of the show...

Anyone catch the "Allied Armed Forces Radio" kinda thing they had going on with the holo-chick playing music and the Clones listening?  Very neat...  Reminded me of Tokyo Rose and the like.  It'd be neat to hear a Separatist one doing some mind-******* with the Clones or something.

I thought Rookies was outstanding too but I found Rex/Cody doing an inspection alone kind of odd.  I'd preferred it being Rex OR Cody with a squad of Clones of their regiment/group doing the inspection...  Two seniors going around just seemed odd, but that's more a nitpicky bitch on my part.

I liked Obi-Wan's "That Cody's a good man" line.  I LOVE seeing the expansion of the relationships characters have, and how it stings more when Cody betrays Obi...  Likewise for next week's epsisode, I loved how Obi-Wan says, "Astromechs are a dime a dozen", poo pooing R2's "death", and Anakin's fist tightening.  I find it fascinating how Obi doesn't give two ***** about losing anyone or anything, while Anakin does...  Kinda makes Obi out to be a prick, which he sort of is in a way anyway, but I digress.

I thought Rookies was outstanding though and really impressive as a single episode.  I'm anxious to see its expansion to the Kamino assault, if there is one.  That'll rock.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on October 31, 2008, 05:41 PM
Anyone catch the "Allied Armed Forces Radio" kinda thing they had going on with the holo-chick playing music and the Clones listening?  Very neat...  Reminded me of Tokyo Rose and the like.  It'd be neat to hear a Separatist one doing some mind-******* with the Clones or something.

The WWII references are great. I'm a big history buff, and I love WWII, especially the Pacific Theater. As for the Separatists screwing with the clones, I just pictured two clones listening to a battle droid DJ tell them their girlfriends are back home sleeping with their brothers, and the two of them just looking at each other confused. It also makes me think of the line from Saving Private Ryan: (paraphrased) He just said the Statue of Liberty is kaput. It would be cool to see either way.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2008, 08:22 PM
THAT is a cool thought...  The "Statue of Liberty is Kaput" line and Hanks looking at the Para and saying, "Well that's disconcerting", haha.  If they incorporated that into the series (something similar) I'd have a stomach ache from laughing I think.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg on November 1, 2008, 08:51 AM
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I liked Obi-Wan's "That Cody's a good man" line.  I LOVE seeing the expansion of the relationships characters have, and how it stings more when Cody betrays Obi...  Likewise for next week's epsisode, I loved how Obi-Wan says, "Astromechs are a dime a dozen", poo pooing R2's "death", and Anakin's fist tightening.  I find it fascinating how Obi doesn't give two ***** about losing anyone or anything, while Anakin does...  Kinda makes Obi out to be a prick, which he sort of is in a way anyway, but I digress.

I'm going to have to disagree about Obi-Wan's prickness. I don't think his statement about R2 comes from not being attached to anyone, but rather just treating droids as products as opposed to people. Obi-Wan I think does get attached to people, as evidenced in his reaction to Anakin's turn to the dark side.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on November 1, 2008, 10:38 AM
I'm a little late to the discussion, but I had some thoughts about Shadow of Malevolence, the episode where Anakin leads the Y-wing squadron in the run on Malevolence. I had originally posted this on another site, and I'm copying and pasting it here if anyone has any thought about it.

I really liked this episode. There was a lot going on between Koon, Anakin, and Ahsoka. I'm not sure Koon isn't just undermining Anakin's authority with Ahsoka and needs to keep some things to himself. But I liked that Ahsoka pointed out to Anakin that just because he can surivive in crazy odds doesn't mean his men can. It's a lesson that's hard for Anakin to accept, and I think it very nicely showed that learning in a master and apprentice relationship runs both ways.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 3, 2008, 01:08 AM
I like that point too TPM, about Ahsoka calling Anakin on his wrecklessness...  He lost sight of the bigger picture, and it was costing lives.

About Obi-Wan's behavior, I dunno...  The implication by the commercial, I thought, was that Anakin was upset by the loss of R2 (his fist clenching, etc.), and Obi-Wan's response is "such is life, they're a dime a dozen" type of reaction.  Does Obi-Wan treat droids like "tools" and not something you care about?  Yes, but I believe this to be the prickishness...

Clearly Anakin and Luke don't look at R2 as anything less than a best friend to them... 

The SW galaxy has that odd stigma about droids for some reason.  Some people seem to openly hate them, there's some "bigotry" towards them what with the Cantina droid sensors and stuff.  I don't know why they're disliked by many but Anakin/Luke seem to enjoy them and treat them as equals and good friends/companions. 

To me it's like the difference in people who treat pets like members of their family, and then people who treat pets as "just animals".  I come from a family where pets are treated like children in the family, but I know people who wouldn't hesitate to put an animal down at the first sign of illness, and they wouldn't put the $$$ into vet bills to help them.

I guess what I'm saying is that Anakin's hurt by losing (or thinking he lost) R2 in battle, while Obi-Wan unfeelingly tells him to basically "get over it", more or less.

It's the same disconnect Obi-Wan can have with the Clones. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on November 3, 2008, 07:09 AM
Well, at least we learn why it is that Obi-Wan wouldn't recognize R2 in Episode IV. He's gone through so many astromechs, that he refuses to believe one survived.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 3, 2008, 09:34 AM
Clearly Anakin and Luke don't look at R2 as anything less than a best friend to them... 

The SW galaxy has that odd stigma about droids for some reason.  Some people seem to openly hate them, there's some "bigotry" towards them what with the Cantina droid sensors and stuff.  I don't know why they're disliked by many but Anakin/Luke seem to enjoy them and treat them as equals and good friends/companions. 

To me it's like the difference in people who treat pets like members of their family, and then people who treat pets as "just animals".  I come from a family where pets are treated like children in the family, but I know people who wouldn't hesitate to put an animal down at the first sign of illness, and they wouldn't put the $$$ into vet bills to help them.

That's an excellent example Jesse.  I'm also from a family (and its the same now in our own family) where the pets are members of the family.  My wife and I consider our daughter, and our beagle, our "kids", but we also have friends and family that are more like "its just a dog" (or cat, etc.) - so I definitely see the similar thought you have regarding droids and characters like Luke and Anakin.  Nice thoughts.  Looking forward to the new episode this week, really missed not seeing one last Friday.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on November 3, 2008, 11:02 AM
We finally caught up thus far, just watched Rookies. Good episode, really like the slight nod to Stormtrooper Han.  :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 4, 2008, 03:53 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video.php?aid=23771) has a short preview clip for this Friday's episode, "Downfall of a Droid".  It looks like we'll get to see Grievous' starfighter actually in some action.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 5, 2008, 11:26 PM
Grievous' Fighter was in Destroy Malevolence actually, but it was only seen briefly as it chased down the Twilight and dodged some fire from it, then GG ignoring Dooku and buggin' out.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on November 6, 2008, 09:30 AM
A lot of people have been telling me that the series is much better than the episodes released as the movie. Is this true?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on November 6, 2008, 03:14 PM
A lot of people have been telling me that the series is much better than the episodes released as the movie. Is this true?

I'd say yes.  I'm not anxiously awaiting the next installment like I did with the movies, but they are definitely entertaining.

I think the Rookies episode by itself was better than the theatrical release.

BTW congrats Dale!  Of course you'll be behind in less than 36 hours....enjoy it while you can.   :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 6, 2008, 04:08 PM
A lot of people have been telling me that the series is much better than the episodes released as the movie. Is this true?

Personally I disagree...  I find them all to be similar in style really.  That's not to say some of the TV episodes aren't better than the movie.  THe movie is cool, there's a lot to like about it and I consider it as good as most of the TV show thus far, with maybe only Rookies and the Yoda episode standing out as above the others.  The others are good/great and so is the movie IMO.  Rookies and Yoda were a notch above, but I'm far from disappointed in any of it.

I have to say I so far like the series immensely more than I liked either E1 or E2...  Maybe it's the freshness and someone else at the helm of it that makes me like it so much?  I don't know.  Either way I'm enjoying it a lot and right now I'd rather watch it than one of the movies on TV.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 7, 2008, 10:20 AM
This week's web comic (http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/comic/index.html), "The Fall of Falleen" is now up at the official site (it starts on page 34/35).  Looking forward to another new episode tonight.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg on November 8, 2008, 11:37 AM
Downfall of a Droid... should've been Downfall of a Series. Alright, last night's episode wasn't too bad, but it was the worst so far. I though the story, locations, characters, etc. were all fine and dandy. The editing and music and stuff like that really bugged me. I thought everything moved way too fast in the episode. And what the hell was up with the music? Sounded like the same annoying garbage that CN plays right before the commercial breaks. The other epsidodes kept a nice Star Wars feel, but this one seemed very aloof.

Also, does any of the over-the-top events/action bug anyone? I know it's a kids' show, but c'mon. 200 AT-TEs blasting away at the Federation frigates? I don't think the Republic would be losing with that kind of firepower. In the same realm of ridiculousness, the capital ships go down after only a few hits. That seems kind of odd to me, and I hope they fix that in future space battles.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on November 8, 2008, 12:10 PM
I thought last night's episode was okay. It did go a little fast though, and the music was weird. But I actually thought the AT-TE attack was kinda cool.

Was this the worst episode so far? Well, yeah, maybe, considering that it's only up against Ambush, Malevolence, and Rookies.

In the same realm of ridiculousness, the capital ships go down after only a few hits. That seems kind of odd to me, and I hope they fix that in future space battles.

I thought that was weird too, but they did take out the bridge if I remember correctly. The Star Destroyer in RotJ went down after Arvel flew his A-Wing into its bridge, so that's my explanation for it. Anyone else have something different?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on November 10, 2008, 09:47 AM
BTW congrats Dale!  Of course you'll be behind in less than 36 hours....enjoy it while you can.   :D

Yeah, bite me!  :P

Caught up again I think. The AT-TE attack was sweet, the assassin droids sure can move around. The gold droid was a pain in the ass just like the music, sounds like some kinda disco/prOn tune.  ::)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: iFett on November 10, 2008, 10:35 AM
Caught up again I think. The AT-TE attack was sweet, the assassin droids sure can move around. The gold droid was a pain in the ass just like the music, sounds like some kinda disco/prOn tune.  ::)

Agreed.  I thought the AT-TE attack played out beautifully.  Goldie sucked ass and I actually didn't care for him.  I also don't get the reprogramming bit.  Don't all the Jedi fly with astromechs?  What's the point in doing so if they get shot down?  Not the greatest episode so far, but those were the "highlights" for me.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on November 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
What did everyone think of the Trandoshan?

(http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Gha_Nachkt.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 10, 2008, 04:03 PM
Here's the Episode Guide (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode006.html) for "Downfall of a Droid".
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on November 10, 2008, 04:08 PM
Downfall of a Droid... should've been Downfall of a Series. Alright, last night's episode wasn't too bad, but it was the worst so far. I though the story, locations, characters, etc. were all fine and dandy. The editing and music and stuff like that really bugged me. I thought everything moved way too fast in the episode. And what the hell was up with the music? Sounded like the same annoying garbage that CN plays right before the commercial breaks. The other epsidodes kept a nice Star Wars feel, but this one seemed very aloof.

This episode was actually the second one created (the movie being the first) in terms of writing and animation according to SW.com. So, if you thought the movie didn't quite hit the mark in terms of quality or in having the Star Wars "feel" that is probably why.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 10, 2008, 11:16 PM
I didn't mind the episode overall but it wasn't the best.  I just got a chance to watch it last night, and it set up a greater story and I'm leaving it at that basically.

The space battle had some "flaws" from a logic standpoint but I think with the time allotted that they did the best they could while keeping the action interesting.  The Sep. ships were shieldless in the rear (an important plot point) when the AT-TE's attacked...  I think time constraints made it necessary for the walkers to seem more powerful than perhaps they are...  They did hit the engine quadrants though, a possible weak point on these ships, especially if they're unshielded.

The point about the bridge being taken out too...  It seems to be a weak point for some ship designs doesn't it? :P

Really though, I thought the Trandoshan scrapper with his IG assassin droids was pretty great, and the "ploy" Ani and Ahsoka tried using on him to get an astromech was funny.  It was neat seeing a fat Trandoshan ala the ones in Republic Commando too...  Anyone at all catch that?  He definitely reminded me of some of the slavers from the Rep Commando game.

The part about this episode that I really liked though, was what I talked about earlier...  Anakin's, once again, strong attachment...  Likewise I enjoy Obi-Wan's fairly heartless attitude towards R2.  To him, R2's "just a droid", but to Ani he's clearly a companion and friend...  He's getting impatient, angry...  That, to me, is what's making this episode good.  You're seeing Anakin, just like with his mother, and Padme, in the films, now getting upset over the loss of his droid...  It has nothing to do with R2's memory (which he doesn't wipe because he actually cares about R2 and doesn't want to make him "droid dumb" I guess), but rather it has to do with his controlling dark nature.  I love that...  It's trying to build just how Anakin becomes Vader and fill in some of that, "Wow he turned into a prick right away" feeling you got out of the movies...  It was a very long process, basically.

Now I'm curious to see this side story's conclusion...  Obviously Anakin gets R2 back, but it'd be really interesting to see the Seps get some juicy info out of it, that helps them break through into the core worlds or something.
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Post by: Brian on November 11, 2008, 08:52 AM
The Official Site (http://starwars.com/video/view/000704.html) has a preview up for this week's episode "Duel of the Droids".
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Post by: Phantom-like Menace on November 14, 2008, 02:02 AM
I didn't think it was too unbelievable that the AT-TEs could inflict enough damage to give Anakin's forces the upper hand. There were a great number of them (you can see fire coming from other asteroids off screen as well), and they were firing into unprotected, possibly sensitive areas like the engines, and it's possible they could even have taken out the shield generators and that the cruisers did most of the damage after that. I found it less believable that one of Anakin's cruisers gets knocked out so easily. I also agree that the time constraints of the show prevented the scene from running longer.

So not much to comment on this episode. I really liked the creative thinking that went into the AT-TE ambush. Kudos to whichever writer came up with that. I liked that we continue to see Ahsoka giving Anakin much needed advice. It's a shame something as simple as nicknames cause fans to discount her character's strengths. The IG assassin droid attack was cool, and I thought Ahsoka's bisecting the droid straight out from a flip was awesome. I did like seeing Artoo's escape attempt as well.

Otherwise, kind of a dull episode.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 14, 2008, 03:53 PM
Yeah the AT-TE thing I've not put too much thought into...  I think the writers tried to get you to "believe" it by having Grievous throw all shields forward, basically leaving his ass open...  And like was said, the hull/armor sections of those ships don't extend to cover the engine area, kind of like Destroyers have...  That means vulnerability in the rear, but perhaps it's made up for by a very strong forward armor/shield design.  With shields, the rear could've probably withstood the AT-TE's, but without shields back there they took much more punishment and that possibly affected all other aspects of teh ship then (shields collapsing 360 degrees around the vessel, etc.).

And I still think Goldie is a nod to Pittsburgh sports teams with the paint deco...  There's also a 36 in the name...  maybe a nod to Jerome Bettis? :)  Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Filloni's from Pittsburgh and very proud of that (or so I'm told).  I wish someone could ask him that question, just out of curiosity.
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Post by: Jayson on November 14, 2008, 10:15 PM
And I still think Goldie is a nod to Pittsburgh sports teams with the paint deco...  There's also a 36 in the name...  maybe a nod to Jerome Bettis? :)  Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Filloni's from Pittsburgh and very proud of that (or so I'm told).  I wish someone could ask him that question, just out of curiosity.

From the episode guide (http://starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode007.html):

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R3-S6's gold and black color scheme is based on Dave Filoni's hometown favorites, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Good call Jesse!
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Post by: Jesse James on November 15, 2008, 12:26 PM
Hah, and the "36" is Bettis' #, who was a major factor in the Steelers last super bowl win, so that's pretty neat.  Or at least I'm assuming that was intentional as well.  Weird coincidence if it isn't the case.

I'm pickin' up Goldie now just for my desk, even though Goldie turned out to be a prick.
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Post by: JangoTat on November 15, 2008, 03:58 PM
Hah, and the "36" is Bettis' #, who was a major factor in the Steelers last super bowl win, so that's pretty neat.  Or at least I'm assuming that was intentional as well.  Weird coincidence if it isn't the case.

I'm pickin' up Goldie now just for my desk, even though Goldie turned out to be a prick.


if it was based on NHL teams one could say artoo and goldies fight was a nod to the Leafs vs the Pens ::)
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Post by: iFett on November 16, 2008, 08:01 PM
Very good episode for the most part.  Loved the droid fight between R2 and Goldie!  Had a feeling there was something wrong with him.  Nice to see him go.
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Post by: David on November 16, 2008, 09:49 PM
I'm really looking forward to next week, despite Jar Jar. The episode sounds pretty cool from what I read in the Visual Guide.
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Post by: DSJ™ on November 17, 2008, 09:10 AM
All caught up again thus far.  :P

Ha, the droid fight was neat & droid poppers! Those are pretty cool, never seen them before.

Jar Jar is next week already, oh dear god!
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Post by: Rune Haako on November 17, 2008, 09:32 AM
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Ha, the droid fight was neat & droid poppers! Those are pretty cool, never seen them before.

You've never played Republic Commado? :P
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Post by: Matt_Fury on November 17, 2008, 02:24 PM
I thought this two part episode was pretty weak overall.  The fact that Goldie was a spy was way too damn convenient and it bothers me that Grievous and Anakin have so many run ins.  They set up the scene in ROTS as if it was the first time Obi-Wan and Anakin had met Grievous.
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Post by: Rune Haako on November 17, 2008, 04:54 PM
They didn't meet though.

Dave Filoni said they never will until ROTS.

As for Obi-Wan, it's not implied in ROTS that they've never met.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 17, 2008, 05:25 PM
Did Anakin meet Grievous?  I didn't think he had yet...  Not in the toons anyway.

I actually thought Goldie was a spy in the first episode so the "convenience" didn't really bother me.  It did seem, afterall, like it was doing the opposite of what they wanted all the time.  I thought they were maybe going to set Goldie up as Ahsoka's future droid but it just seemed like they were going out of tehir way to make Goldie seem like he was doing stuff on purpose.

I liked both episodes really, but they weren't the best.  I think they were as good as the Malevolence storyline though...

Droid poppers were indeed introduced in republic Commando, Dale.  They'd basically slow down some of the bulkier droids so you can take them out.  They also brought shields down on Destroyer Droids IIRC.  They were called "EMP Grenades" in RC though I think, not "Poppers".

I liked that SBD's shot at them while the moron regular droid picked it up and shook it.  Somehow the regulars seem smarter than SBD's on some level, but not in that sequence.  :-\
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Post by: Brian on November 18, 2008, 09:53 AM
The preview (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode008.html) for this week's episode, Bombad Jedi, is now up at the Official Site.
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Post by: DSJ™ on November 18, 2008, 10:02 AM
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Ha, the droid fight was neat & droid poppers! Those are pretty cool, never seen them before.

You've never played Republic Commado? :P

That would be a negative.  :P

The preview (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode008.html) for this week's episode, Bombad Jedi, is now up at the Official Site.

Jar Jar... noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!  :D
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Post by: Brian on November 18, 2008, 04:07 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video.php?aid=24244) has a clip up from this week's episode "Bombad Jedi" as well, featuring Jar Jar and C-3PO.
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Post by: JangoTat on November 18, 2008, 05:15 PM
oh my, mesa so excited to see thisa episode ;D


jar jar and 3po are awsome cant wait to see this one haha
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Post by: Brian on November 19, 2008, 02:49 PM
For anyone who has or will be picking up the deluxe (or blu ray) version of the Clone Wars movie, in the special features area there is a feature called "The Clone Wars: The Untold Stories" which features a lot of episodes that have not only aired, but will be airing later this season as well (with footage).  Minor spoilers, if you don't want to see anything before it airs.  Also, if you're lucky enough to have a blu-ray player (not me, yet), it appears you can get some glimpses of some of the live action movies in blu-ray quality.  I wonder if we'll see blu-ray releases of the Saga next year?
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Post by: BrentS on November 19, 2008, 10:34 PM
Anyone know if the DVD or Blu-Ray comes with an iTunes digital copy?
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Post by: Jayson on November 20, 2008, 06:28 AM
The 2-disc SE and the Blu-Ray versions include the Digital Copy.
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Post by: Brian on November 20, 2008, 11:59 AM
I see this week's preview comic is up at the Official Site, and it features the Dannl Faytonni and Achk Med-Beq characters, as well as Jar Jar and 3PO.
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Post by: Phantom-like Menace on November 21, 2008, 01:07 AM
I enjoyed the fight between Ahsoka and Grievous. I laughed when she cut Grievous' hand off. He's really got to watch that. They did a good job balancing making her seem like she didn't have a chance but still getting away. It was also enjoyable when she dropped into the fight at the end and took out the droid starfighters.

Of course Artoo got to kick a little butt. At first I thought it was going to be cutesy, but as soon as Goldie started to fall and fired his grapple onto Artoo, I knew Artoo was about to cut him loose and send him to the Maker. Loved Anakin's last minute save. Cliche, but welcome.
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Post by: BrentS on November 21, 2008, 06:41 PM
The 2-disc SE and the Blu-Ray versions include the Digital Copy.

Nice!  I'll definitely put the blu-ray version on the christmas list.
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Post by: Jayson on November 21, 2008, 09:50 PM
A pretty ho-hum episode. A few brief OT and OT concept references but otherwise it was a big "death of Jar Jar" dick tease episode. The 4 legged Crab Droid, the Neimoidian Transport, and seeing Gree and the 41st Clones were cool though.
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Post by: David on November 21, 2008, 10:01 PM
So no Lair of Grievous next week? :(
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Post by: Jayson on November 21, 2008, 10:06 PM
So no Lair of Grievous next week? :(

Nope... The Malevolence Saga. It makes sense I guess being the holiday weekend and all.
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Post by: Rune Haako on November 21, 2008, 10:27 PM
So no Lair of Grievous next week? :(

Cloak of Darkness is before Lair of Grievous.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on November 21, 2008, 10:41 PM
So no Cloak of Darkness next week? They made it sound like they're just gonna re-run the "Malevolence Saga." :-\
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Post by: BrentS on November 21, 2008, 10:42 PM
Well my 9 year old son thoroughly enjoyed the episode.  I liked the nods to the OT (as usual).  I thought the Rodian's were really well done.  Certainly not the best, but I think the animated style really suits Jar-Jar.
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Post by: David on November 21, 2008, 10:44 PM
So no Lair of Grievous next week? :(

Nope... The Malevolence Saga. It makes sense I guess being the holiday weekend and all.

Never mind - missed your post.  :-[  :-X
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Post by: Scott on November 22, 2008, 08:25 AM
We really enjoyed the Jar Jar episode.  The humor of this show is what really resonates with me and last night was chock full!

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Post by: Darby on November 22, 2008, 09:26 AM
I liked it too.  It wasn't as good as some of the others, but Jar Jar works in the animated context and they made a good attempt at making him sympathetic.  I never minded Jar Jar, really.  I wish they had let him actually rescue Padme from the tower, as it kind of undercut the story, but in the end it worked.
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Post by: David on November 22, 2008, 12:21 PM
I actually liked last night's episode, I was pleasantly surprised by how well Jar Jar works in the animated Star Wars galaxy.

The Rodian stuff was great, too, and it was a cool story. Another character that seems to be far more enjoyable in the animated series (both of them) is Padme. I thought it was funny how Anakin's cloak was in a closet in her ship, and Three-so had to cover that up when Jar Jar asked about who it belonged to.

Another cool part that I got a bit of a laugh out of was when Threepio redirected the battle droids that were looking for Padme and "the Jedi." That was a great ANH nod that also just goes to show how non-battle droid droids are taken for granted in the Star Wars galaxy. One second the bad guys can be chasing after Threepio, and the next they'll just forget all about that and be taking directions from him. Anyways, just thought that was really neat.

Looking forward to new episodes!
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Post by: Scott on November 22, 2008, 12:25 PM
One thing I noticed...since when was Padme's father a Senator? That was said in the first dialogue between her and Farr.

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Post by: David on November 22, 2008, 03:15 PM
I searched the web. Nothing about him being a Senator, at least not in Wookieepedia (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruwee_Naberrie):

"A former craftsman of buildings, Ruwee was also a volunteer worker in the Refugee Relief Movement as a young man, where his younger daughter Padmé would later follow in his footsteps.

When his daughters were still young, Ruwee left the mountain village he was born in and took the family to live in Theed, where he hoped there would be more opportunities for Sola and Padmé.

Ruwee, along with his family and thousands of other Naboo, attended his daughter Padmé's funeral, shortly after the Clone Wars had ended. At the time he was a teacher at the Theed University."



The official site (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/ruweenaberrie/index.html) had a pretty similar bio on him. ???
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Post by: Rune Haako on November 22, 2008, 04:13 PM
A preview is up on the Cartoon Network Clone Wars site for the Cloak of Darkness episode, it looks AWESOME!

Best episode yet by the looks of it!  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Scott on November 22, 2008, 04:41 PM
My first gut reaction when I heard it is that they confused Padme and Leia
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Post by: JangoTat on November 22, 2008, 04:51 PM
One thing I noticed...since when was Padme's father a Senator? That was said in the first dialogue between her and Farr.



they dont say her father was a senator they just say Farr was a close friend in the senate. Dont have to be a senator to be friends with one you know ;)

its was a pretty good episode, not the best but it had some lol moments.
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Post by: Ben on November 22, 2008, 05:27 PM
I really didn't think I'd like an episode that I thought used the weakest links of the prequels, (Padme, Jar Jar, and Nute Gunray) but I was pleasantly surprised by this episode. Hope to see more like it.
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Post by: DSJ™ on November 23, 2008, 02:44 AM
I just watched the episode via an online link, I too thought I would not like it as Jar Jar was in it but it was fun to watch. I agree that an amimated Jar Jar works really well, no doubt we will see more of him.
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Post by: Phantom-like Menace on November 23, 2008, 08:18 PM
I think the episode suffered from not being straight-up comedy. Kevin Rubio's involvement made me think it would be laugh a minute. I didn't really smile at anything, let alone laugh. I don't think it was even intended to be funny per se, but just have some funny moments. I thought it was going to be funny with maybe some serious moments.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 12:42 AM
I didn't mind this episode, but it's probably my least favorite so far...  I think a Jar Jar episode is good to slip in though, as long as this is more or less "it".  He's definitely more tolerable as a cartoon and in this series/context, than he was in E1.  It also sets him up as basically being a retard being taken care of by others...  more or less.

I thought Padme was pretty slick in the episode, and I thought 3PO had the most "humor" to him.  I did like Jar Jar calling him threeso though.  That had me laughing some.  I'm curious how the capture of Gunray plays into the whole storyline now as well.

It was a nice little stand-alone episode, but it's not near as good as Rookies, or the Yoda episode.  Those were amazing and still had humor. 

Oh and I liked the thing Jar Jar made friends with.  I thought that was a funny little twist.
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Post by: Brian on November 24, 2008, 09:26 AM
Like about everyone else, I enjoyed this episode too.  I also think that Jar Jar works pretty well in the animated form, and Padme and 3PO were both enjoyable in this episode too.  Actually, over the years I find I don't mind Jar Jar nearly as much - and I think this cartoon episode showed that he could have been more tolerable in the movies (TPM in particular, since his role is much smaller in the others) if they would have used him a little more wisely (and less).
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Post by: Jesse James on November 24, 2008, 11:34 AM
I actually have always disliked Anakin in E1 more than Jar Jar, and that's just the piss poor acting job that the kid did.  There's tons of competent child actors and Lucas went with an "unknown" more or less who stunk up the flick...  Add in Lucas' ****** writing/lines and you're pretty well hosed on getting anything positive out of him for the film.

To this day E1 is the most worthless of the films for a wide variety of reasons.  I can watch for the good it has in it, but it's still pretty bad.  The animated series trumps it by far, and I'd say it's ahead of Episode 2 as well right now.  It's maybe never going to reach E3 quality, but it'll come real close I believe.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2008, 12:11 PM
The preview is up (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000731.html) on the Official Site for the next new episode (next week I believe), Cloak of Darkness.  It looks like it will focus on Luminara and Ahsoka, and Assaj's attempt to rescue Nute Gunray.
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Post by: Jayson on November 25, 2008, 12:48 PM
Separated at birth?
 
McQuarrie Concept Painting vs Sea Monster from "Bombad Jedi"

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/sab.jpg) (http://www.yakface.com/jayson/sabb.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2008, 12:54 PM
The Episode Guide (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode008.html) for Bombad Jedi does mention that the Kwazel Maw is indeed based on Ralph McQuarrie's Dagobah Swamp Slug design.  Kind of cool.
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Post by: Jesse James on November 25, 2008, 10:03 AM
Incredibly cool on the slug, and next week's episode looks fairly badass, and a major contrast from last week's.  They really seem to be aiming for creepy/violent next week.  Assajj is one whacked out bitch.
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Post by: Brian on December 3, 2008, 04:38 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video.php?aid=24523) has a short clip up from this week's episode "Cloak of Darkness".
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Post by: Phantom-like Menace on December 5, 2008, 02:28 AM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video.php?aid=24523) has a short clip up from this week's episode "Cloak of Darkness".

The description of the scene is that Unduli gives Padawad (sic) Ahsoka Tano guidance. I saw no guidance (and certainly no "Padawad").
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Post by: Jayson on December 5, 2008, 09:49 PM
Another great episode tonight - maybe one of the best. The lightsaber duels rivaled the prequels and I really liked Luminara's character - kind of a female Qui-Gon in terms of disposition as a master. The Senate Commandos were way cool as was Argyus. I suspected he as was a traitor before the reveal but he met his end quite gruesomely. He deserved to die for that hairstyle alone.

Other highlights:
• The boarding pods - cool how they bored into the hull to release the SBDs
• 327T - a nice nod to the ANH treadwell
• The detention center - straight up Death Star homage
• clone carnage - there were plenty of trooper bodies (and head) piling up in this episode

Overall a very solid episode.
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Post by: BrentS on December 5, 2008, 10:08 PM
I liked this episode, but I'm really looking forward to next week.  I've been waiting to see Master Fisto in his animated glory!
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Post by: Ben on December 5, 2008, 10:25 PM
After the first three waves of figures, I was wondering how Hasbro would keep their line fresh. I got my answer with this week's episode, with the Phase I Gree and the Senate Commandos will make awesome toys if the big H gets around to them.

This was the first time I noticed the violence disclaimer at the beginning and after the commercials. Has that been there for a while?
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Post by: Jayson on December 5, 2008, 10:39 PM
This was the first time I noticed the violence disclaimer at the beginning and after the commercials. Has that been there for a while?

It was present during the past couple episodes, but once the killing was done the following breaks no longer flashed the warning.
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Post by: Ben on December 6, 2008, 02:19 AM
OK, thanks.  :)  I tend to surf around during breaks, so I guess I missed it.
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Post by: David on December 6, 2008, 10:17 AM
I thought last night's episode was terrific! Luminara is an awesome character and the Senate Guards were very cool looking. It was also nice to see at least one episode where Asajj goes on a mission and doesn't **** it up, that was getting kinda boring.

I think so far Rookies is still my favorite, but Cloak of Darkness is a pretty close second. Looking forward to next week's episode with Kit Fisto! :)
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Post by: Darby on December 6, 2008, 06:00 PM
I also liked last night's show tremendously.  Luminara is a great character, and it'd be nice to see more of her.  The commandos were cool, and so was Asajj, finally.  I like the show when it focuses less on Obi/Ani and more on the ancillary characters of the saga.  So next week ought to be cool - looking forward to it for a while now.
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Post by: DSJ™ on December 6, 2008, 07:05 PM
Our TV listings do not have Cloak of Darkness being aired tomorrow night so I had to go through an online source to see it.  ;D

Now that was an extremally entertaining episode, the Senate Commandos were neat as with the boarding pods. Luminara was excellent & Asajj was just plain badass. Loved the 3 way bitch fight.  8)

I just wish this show was more than 30 minutes, I could sit through an hour of it.  :)
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Post by: JangoTat on December 6, 2008, 08:59 PM
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I just wish this show was more than 30 minutes, I could sit through an hour of it. 

pfft. I wish they were 30 minutes, I have been downloading all of them since we dont get them on time up here and all of them have been around 20 minutes long.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on December 8, 2008, 10:18 AM
I thought last Friday's episode was pretty good as well.  Again, its nice to see the focus on another Jedi - and the episode was interesting overall.  I really liked the Senate Commandos as well, kind of wish we would have seen them in the movies as well.  Really looking forward to next week's episode, it looks like a good one.  Also, although I definitely don't mind the shift away from the trio of Anakin/Ahsoka/Obi-Wan - isn't it about time Obi-Wan got an episode?  I'm sure its on the way, but he's been largely a supporting (or holographic) character so far - aside from a couple of moments (the fight vs. Grievous).  Anyways, I usually enjoy the ones focusing on someone outside of them more anyways - but I always enjoy some Obi-Wan action.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on December 9, 2008, 10:21 AM
The Official Site (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000733.html) has the preview up for this week's episode, Lair of Grievous.  Looks like a good one, really looking forward to it.
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Post by: Brian on December 12, 2008, 11:06 AM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/120812-Clone-Wars.html) has a feature up discussing tonight's Grievous-centric episode.  I'm really looking forward to this one, and to seeing Fisto and his new padawan.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darby on December 13, 2008, 09:40 AM
This was a lot of fun.  I think I wanted some more interaction between Kit and Nadar, but what can you do in 30 minutes.  The fight between Kit and Grievous blew away the ROTS fight between him and Obi, but Grievous has become in the course of this the Black Knight.  It's hard to take him seriously.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on December 13, 2008, 10:12 AM
The Lair of Grievous was a good episode, I liked the saber duel between Kit & Grievous. I still like Grievous cutting off Dooku in the transmissions, makes Dooku more pissed at him.  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Nicklab on December 13, 2008, 03:08 PM
I think so far that "The Lair of General Grievous" was by far the best episode of the series.  It shows some of the divisions within the Jedi.  The effort to destroy the Jedi by Dooku setting the trap.  The treachery of the Sith in testing one their so-called allies.  I think it was one of the best crafted stories I've seen.  And when I saw that the Lucasfilm people went to one of the premier Japanese anime writers/directors to help put this episode together?  I was really impressed.  The episode had some of that darkness that's present in anime.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on December 13, 2008, 03:12 PM
Awesome, awesome, AWESOME episode! Kit and Nahdar were terrific and the lightsaber duels were very, very cool. By far the best episode so far. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on December 13, 2008, 04:38 PM
It was a good episode, I liked the end where Yoda, Mace and Kit contemplated what this war was doing to the Jedi.  The action sequences were also cool.

I'm curious about next week's episode, but I'm hoping Obi-Wan and Anakin don't actually catch up to Dooku.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: I Am Sith on December 14, 2008, 03:39 PM
Really liked Friday's episode a lot.  Best I've seen thus far.  Absolutely loved the scenes where Greivous had his legs cut off and he was walking around on his arms like in ROTS.  Also liked seeing the room that had all of his replacement parts hanging from the ceiling...  I'm smelling a future release from Hasbro - Build a Greivous action figure, including authentic battle damage and replacement parts!
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on December 15, 2008, 07:19 AM
The lightsaber duels were quite cool, especially when Kit grabbed the second lightsaber. I still can't forgive Episode III for doing absolutely nothing with Grievous's four-armed lightsaber potential.

I think my favorite part of the episode, though, was when the clones fired the grapple lines onto Grievous. The scene seemed to animalize Grievous, like he was just some dumb beast they were taking down.

Of course it was cool to see the Sith engage Jedi in a way where the heroes were basically incidental, just parts of the overall plan and not the actual targets. And it was cool to continue to get episodes about characters other than Anakin, Obi-Wan, etc. It's definitely a strength of this series.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on December 15, 2008, 09:44 AM
I really enjoyed "Lair of Grievous", probably one of my favorite episodes yet.  Although the writing was on the wall pretty much from the beginning, I was a little disappointed to see Nahdar get offed in this episode.  I kind of liked having a Mon Cal Jedi.  Anyways, I really enjoy these episodes that feature the "other" Jedi.  As I've said, Kit and Plo are my favorite "other/background" Jedi of the prequels, and its nice that they've both gotten feature episodes.  I can understand obviously why these other members of the Jedi order didn't get much time in the prequels (wasn't really time), but its nice to see them fleshed out further in the Clone Wars series.  Its going to be a rough couple of weeks waiting for a new episode now, but I'd say - going into this holiday break - the series has been very good so far.

Oh, and here's the Episode Guide (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode010.html) for "Lair of Grievous", as well as the preview (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000734.html) for "Dooku Captured", which looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 15, 2008, 03:07 PM
So I enjoyed this week's episode a lot as well...  I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it was good.  I enjoyed last week's a bit more I think, but mostly because it was more combat/military oriented whereas this episode seemed almost like a horror movie!  Grievious' house of horrors basically. 

I was talking with a buddy of mine who is just now getting into watching the series, and he loved the last couple episodes.  I told him they're not all perfect but the last two weeks were pretty close.  He digs the humor from various characters like Grievous' medical droid.  I told him Anakin's droid/holo are pretty entertaining as well, mostly due to the sort of slow voice.

Anyway this past week was awesome due to Grievous' home being this shrouded fortress nobody knows or knew about.  Then inside he's got beasties for pets, and lots of traps, and his guards and some droids...  Very cool.  I also liked Grievous' disgust at the use of battledroids, and how his relationship with the Separatists is strained (at best).  It's funny how Grievous almost is pitiable, in that he'd be a good leader but he's warped now and so he's with the wrong side.  It almost makes you wonder if the Republic had gotten to him before the Seps, would he be happier commanding Clones?  He's clearly not happy with sub-par soldiers the Seps give him.

It's a very interesting series I think, mostly because of these little questions and details they slip in there.

Last week's episode was similarly good, but like I said it had a more military touch to it, and I liked that a lot...  The boarding craft the Seps use are incredibly cool to me, and I thought the Senate commandoes were quite cool.  My buddy and I are noticing the trend though where new characters last about as long as red shirts on Star Trek.  Argyus, Grievous' Droid Doctor, R3S6, Trandoshan Scavenger...  Lots of people getting offed.  I love that the show gets a violence rating, haha.  Ya know they're aiming for our attention spans by making it something more than the cutesy Jar Jar episode.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on December 16, 2008, 12:55 AM
Last week's episode was similarly good, but like I said it had a more military touch to it, and I liked that a lot...

It occurs to me I never really commented on last week's episode. I enjoyed the episode. I get the feeling I'm always going to have to comment on liking the lightsaber stuff in this series. There were little novel bits like the split Ahsoka performs, or Ventress' using her 'sabers to descend the turbolift shaft, and all of it continues to be on par with Episode III and far and away better than the pisspoor lightsaber work of Episode II.

My one complaint was the portrayal of Luminara. For a person who changes her assessment of the situation one-eighty inside of two seconds, she's adamant about selling whatever the current version is. One moment Ventress is no match for her (and honestly, Luminara holds her ground even with a gout of steam in her eye), and Ahsoka isn't remotely needed. The next, Ventress is so powerful as to shake her confidence to the point where she undermines her own authority in a distracting confessional in the middle of the battle. I'm all for admitting to one's mistakes, even to subordinates; it shows maturity. However, you should do it after the crisis, and you should remember that you need to balance that with the fact that you are in charge and need to maintain at least some amount of authority after admitting your mistakes. Luminara all but submits to Ahsoka. I could almost hear Eyore-like her thinking "Why bother?"
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 16, 2008, 12:18 PM
I agree.  I think Luminara's character fell prey to the time constraints of the series though, unfortunately.  Squeeze in, in 22 minutes or so, all the crap you want.  Luminara "growing" as a leader and teaching Ahsoka and things...  Did Ahsoka learn anything?  Not really by my estimation.  She disobeyed Luminara, she got violent with Gunray...  It's like Luminara was easily talked into anything.  That was weird for sure.  Definitely if there were another half hour, i think they would have done a better job of that.

Ahsoka's cocky behavior is clearly a byproduct of Anakin's teachings I think, but I'd have liked to see Luminara be a little more forceful, and teach Ahsoka rather than the other way around.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on December 18, 2008, 07:25 AM
I think it goes deeper than the time constraint issue. George Lucas needed to describe the Jedi as having a flaw that would mean their downfall. He decided it would be arrogance, and he proceeded to show us how their arrogance allowed them to fall prey to a labyrinthine plot that unfolds over decades and involves whole governments moving to the plans of a master manipulator. While Lucas certainly made mistakes with some plot holes and continuity errors within Sidious's plan, he put in the effort to show that it took a very, very elaborate deception to get past the Jedi.

Now, however, it seems writers use this arrogance as a crutch for lazy writing. If they don't feel like putting forth the effort to show an elaborate plot, they'll have the Jedi fall for anything. If asked they simply say, "The Jedi are arrogant." The Jedi can do any stupid or callous thing convenient to the plot simply because, "Well, the Jedi are arrogant, you see." And what's best is we don't even expect something elaborate or creative, because we just accept this arrogance. In fact, the greatest disservice is to the Jedi. The Jedi now come off as so arrogant, so completely removed from reasonable behavior, that it seems less like a tragedy that they were wiped out and more like a good thing that the galaxy was rid of the inexcusably criminally negligent. This episode wasn't too bad. Luminara didn't come off as a complete loss, but I think her situation here does reflect some of the exaggeration of the Jedi's flaw that has allowed nearly every background Jedi to go to the Darkside and/or completely bungle simple activities.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 18, 2008, 05:17 PM
I agree, I'm just saying that a 22 minute episode leaves some obvious time issues to squeeze it all in, believably.  If that makes any sense...  I liked Luminara, especially her voice, but it's tough to squeeze in all those flaws and deeper plot points for the Jedi in the overall CW storyline, when you've only got Luminara and Ahsoka for such and such ammount of time...  In this case, about 22 minutes.

I try not to jduge the toon much because of that flaw...  They'll always have too short a time to really get too deep with it, in believable segments.  An hour long format would improve that situation...  Ahsoka/Luminara's time together could've been made deeper with more time obviously, but because of the fast pace of the show, we're left watching Luminara go from all-powerful to flawed in 22 minutes.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on December 19, 2008, 12:40 AM
No, your time constraint point is certainly a valid argument, and I'd even agree with it. I just think there's a lot more to it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Nicklab on December 19, 2008, 01:07 AM
I don't think the lack of character exploration with Luminara is due to the length of the episodes at all.  Right off the bat the series explored multi-episode story arcs.  The Malevolence story spanned 3 episodes.  And there have been ongoing story arcs for a number of the Jedi as well as the Seperatists.  Luminara might be a Jedi master, but she isn't so significant that the producers are spending a lot of time getting to know her.  The "Cloak of Darkness" episode was much more about Ventress, Ahsoka and Nute Gunray.  Not Luminara.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2008, 01:37 AM
Exactly though, that's my point...

Luminara doesn't get much time simply because she's Luminara...  I think they conveyed her character well enough so it's not even a complaint on my part, I just think characters aren't always going to get much attention.  Fisto, Koon, Luminara and others won't get a ton of play basically.  The series will almost always inevitably turn to Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka, and to a lesser degree the villains...  Ultimately I think you'll get more out of Rex/Cody too than you will out of these secondary Jedi Masters...  I think that just all is easily chalked up to it being a half-hour series of shows though. 

Multiple story-arcs are probably going to be reserved for "more important" characters ultimately...  More episodes may come up for these other Jedi, but ultimately it seems to me the team creating the series would like to squeeze more into one episode for secondary characters than giving them more time.

That keeps it similar with the original 2D toon as well, giving a Jedi an episode here and there, and those uber short episodes conveyed some of the Jedi's personality even, but they didn't give them too many multiple episodes (if any) at all.  The series will focus on the important people mostly though, and that's what should ultimately be expected, but what I'm saying is that the half hour your'e given means you're going to get some of these secondary Jedi's stories crammed in there due to the time constraints.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 19, 2008, 09:08 PM
Bah, guess we're a couple weeks from new episodes.  Bummer...  I didn't realize it was repeats this week and next (if anything is on).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on December 22, 2008, 11:39 AM
I know we've all seen all the episodes, or close to it, but for those interested - the Official Site (and I think CartoonNetwork.com as well) has all of the aired episodes available to watch online for free from today until the end of the year (I believe).  Nice way to catch up on things leading into the next new episode on Jan 2.  I noticed that CN also seems to be airing a lot of CW (out of order and at various times) during the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Keonobi on December 29, 2008, 12:08 PM
So I'm about a month behind on the show, I'm catching up on the last three episodes this week. 

Going back to the Duel of the Droids episode from November.  Anyone catch that Ahsoka cuts of Grevious' right hand, but that's the same (intact) right hand he uses to support himself when he jumps into his fighter?  I know its a little thing, just bugged me a bit.  Or maybe its a nod to all the little things like that in the OT :)  Though I was a bit confused, because the hand the falls to the ground only has 4 fingers, but I haven't gone back to check if his hands only have four fingers throughout (simplified animation perhaps, I know in ROTS he had 6 on each hand, which divided into three on each hand when his arms split...

Anyway, I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I wanted to comment on that little thing.  Overall I love the series.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: BrentS on December 29, 2008, 05:40 PM
We watched the Clone Wars Movie on Blu-Ray last night.  It was fun to go back and watch the movie after seeing the first episodes of the series.  A question for you, was the Rodian in Palpatine's Chamber the same Rodian senator that Padme goes to visit later in the series?  I think it may have been but I wasn't sure. 
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on December 30, 2008, 09:02 AM
TheForce.net (http://theforce.net/jedicouncil/interview/henrygilroyanddavefiloni.asp) has a nice interview up with Henry Gilroy and Dave Filoni discussing the Clone Wars series.  They mention some things that got cut (Panaka, Plo vs. Grievous, etc.), some characters that may be appearing, the "OT connections" and more.  Kind of an interesting read, and most of the spoilers seem to be taken out.  They also talk about changes from the EU stories, Lucas' involvement, and more.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on January 2, 2009, 01:26 AM
Pretty cool read. The section about Ahsoka and Plo in Episode III was a good laugh, and it's really cool that they try to be creative in working around contradicting stories like Grievous's origin. The teasers for upcoming episodes were great, but the word deleted was starting to give me conniptions. What?!? What was deleted? ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on January 3, 2009, 06:18 PM
Overall a rather disappointing episode. I think it suffered from main-character-itis: an episode that focuses on characters whose "destiny" is already planned out i.e. Obi-Wan and Anakin. I much prefer the episodes that tell stories of 2nd and 3rd tier characters who's stories have yet to be told.

Also I didn't like the whole Pirates of the Caribbean meets Star Wars arc with the pirate Weequay although I did like their flying saucer type ships.   

I guess we'll have to see how this plays out in the next episode. I'm not liking the Sith and Jedi team up to escape plot device. It seems way too formulaic - even for Star Wars.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Rune Haako on January 3, 2009, 07:49 PM
Nice to see that General Loathsom may be returning in a prequel episode to the movie.

That was my question. ;D

Though I can't see why they just can't have him escape, or be rescued from Republic custody. ???
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: iFett on January 3, 2009, 08:15 PM
I liked the episode for the most part.  Seemed to be more "adult" themed IMO.  Can't wait for the conclusion.  Getting VERY sick of Obi-Wan's repetitive teachings to Anakin and his oh, here we go again crap though.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 4, 2009, 02:38 AM
I have no idea when we get the show back on telly up here but I did manage to catch Dooku Captured online. So space pirates... meh, looked like another episode filler to me & it kinda ran slow. Will see how this ends next time with Jar Jar.  :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 5, 2009, 01:52 AM
I actually really liked the episode, only because I enjoyed the expansion of Obi/Ani's relationshp...  We see them i nthe films, but ultimately we only see them briefly "having a good time".  Otherwise they're almost advesarial, as in the movies there's frequent disagreemnts and things...

In the cartoon we see them in a more playful setting, having adventures...  I like that a lot. 

I also liked the pirates...  Pirates in SW EU have sorta always been like just a transplant of piracy here on Earth, so I dig it.  They weren't really over the top I thought, as they're all in their spacey looking gear, have a definitely cool ship, and they just seem like a roving band of opportunists.  Had they tried to make them sound silly, saying things like "Arrr matey" and stuff, then I 'd have been rolling my eyes.

That waid, I agree with you Jayson, on next week's episode.  I don't dig the thought of Dooku working with Ani/Obi to escape, and I really think Jar Jar should be left to that one episode, and be done.  Though he was somehow more tolerable as a cartoon, and his constantly calling 3PO "Threeso" was funny...  But yeah, I'm seeing next week's episode as trying to infuse the kiddie element into a 2-parter that started out with a good adult tone to it (the Weequay grabbed the waitresses ass, that was funny and he got slapped for it.  That's the little stuff I dig about the series).

Next week could be a downer.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Nicklab on January 5, 2009, 04:39 PM
This week's episode was definitely a step backwards.  "Lair of General Grievous" was such a strong episode in comparison.  And for the show to take it's holiday break and come back to this?  Hmmm.  The only thing that it might have going for it is that it's the first episode of a multi-episode story arc.  There's the potential for it to get better.  But with Jar Jar showing up in the coming attractions?  We'll see.  I think the Ryloth storyline might be a lot better than the pirate story.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on January 8, 2009, 08:21 AM
I actually really liked the episode, only because I enjoyed the expansion of Obi/Ani's relationshp...  We see them i nthe films, but ultimately we only see them briefly "having a good time".  Otherwise they're almost advesarial, as in the movies there's frequent disagreemnts and things...

In the cartoon we see them in a more playful setting, having adventures...  I like that a lot.

That's what I enjoyed about this episode as well.  Obi-Wan's my favorite character of the prequels, so its nice to see his character used a little more (as its mostly been in holos and brief cameos so far).  I'm with others where I usually enjoy seeing the 2nd/3rd tier Jedi more often, but its nice to see the big guns every so often too.  Like Jesse mentioned, I liked seeing Obi-Wan and Anakin "get along" and have some fun adventures - something that I feel was missing in the prequels for the most part.  You didn't get a real big sense that they were actual "brothers" or best friends, as they seemed to be more adversarial most of the time, like Jesse said.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on January 10, 2009, 12:00 AM
I really liked this week's episode.

The Weequay pirates are extremely awesome ;D, and (dare I say it) Jar Jar's actually somewhat enjoyable in the cartoon. :-X

I also thought that the interaction between Anakin/Obi-Wan/Dooku wasn't entirely as horrible as it could've been, but I still don't like that they came in post-AOTC/pre-ROTS contact with Dooku at all. :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 10, 2009, 04:39 PM
I'm beginning to agree that they need to cut back on the Dooku/Ani/Obi interaction...  Or at least cut back on Ani interacting with him.  It's bugging me slightly.

Jar Jar is better as a cartoon, which is sort of ironic.

I liked this week's episode as well...  I think the Weequay were pretty snazzy and it sorta set them up to reappear it seems.  Pirates are pirates I guess, and not too dissimilar from real world pirates on Earth. :)  Their ship(s) kicked ass.  I liked the design.

I thought the interaction with Dooku, while getting a bit much (too much connection), was still funny and entertaining.  I thought they genuinely pulled it off better than I thought they would.  Likewise with Jar Jar...  he seemed almost remotely intelligent, and had a touch of humanity he didn't have in the films I noticed (burrying the Gran senator, actually having an idea and workign with the Clones...  Like they said, "he's smarter than he looks".).  It's funny that the cartoon people did more with Jar than Lucas could ever have pulled off.

THis episode had a lot of just fun Star Warsy stuff to it...  The animals, the pirates, the "humor".  It redeemed the last episode's shortcomings I think, and makes for one good 2-parter together IMO.

I can't honestly say I've been disappointed in the series at all.  It is above par, and I think compiled it'll appeal more to me than E1 (for sure) or E2 perhaps.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 10, 2009, 07:05 PM
Not a bad episode. Funny, I was watching the Last Starfighter late last night & one of the ships reminded me of the pirate saucer.

Best line... He's smarter than he looks!  :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: iFett on January 11, 2009, 08:13 PM
I enjoyed Friday night's episode just as much as the others.  JarJar is obviously in here for comic relief and he fits MUCH better here than he ever did in the movies - even though he's still over the top (dumbass).  Seems like they voiced him with a different actor this time. 

I liked the ending though.  Shows the good side of the Jedi and the bad side of what will inevitably happen to the Weequay's home.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on January 11, 2009, 11:41 PM
Not a bad episode. Funny, I was watching the Last Starfighter late last night & one of the ships reminded me of the pirate saucer.

I assume you mean the ship Alex and Grig was chasing through the asteroid cavern? I thought the same thing.  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 12, 2009, 02:36 AM
...I still don't like that they came in post-AOTC/pre-ROTS contact with Dooku at all. :P

The entire reason why I didn't like it.

And leaving the pirates alone at the end.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on January 13, 2009, 02:20 AM
I won't comment too much on the most recent two episodes, since most of my thoughts have been covered. I'm in the camp that thought the episodes were okay, not much to laud, not much to loathe. I'm really looking forward to the coming episode. The previews didn't really make Aayla feel important to the episode, but descriptions seem to imply she's going to get almost as much to do as Luminara in her episode.

It would be nice to see more previously established background and EU Jedi like Bultar Swan, Qunilan Vos, K'Kruhk or maybe even some more obscure ones.. I don't care if it's just a shot of a crowd of Jedi full of Easter egg cameos.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 13, 2009, 04:00 AM
Agreed, that it would be nice to see some non-film EU Jedi and other characters come up.  Vos and others are popular enough you'd think they'd slip them in at least with cameos.  Maybe not centered characters as kids relate more to the movies than the EU of course, but little cameos would be great for some of those characters in the series.  It'd tie the EU into the, well, EU as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: The Stolen CCG License on January 14, 2009, 03:54 PM
Seems like they voiced [jar jar] with a different actor this time. 

Yeah, that was odd.  I didn't want to be bothered by it, but I found it extremely distracting.  I never think about any of the other characters voices, but all I could think about was, "that's not Jar Jar.  that's not Jar Jar."  I didn't notice anything in the Rodia episode, so I'm confused.  If they have another voice actor do the upcoming Ach Med Best character... well, my feeble brain can't even wrap itself around how bizarre a concept that is. 

Also, boooo to non-complete-season DVD releases.  It's exactly 0% surprising, but still, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!! 


Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jeff on January 14, 2009, 05:20 PM
Also, boooo to non-complete-season DVD releases.  It's exactly 0% surprising, but still, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!! 

$20 for 4 episodes? (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news_galaxydivided_dvd.html)   ::)  ::)  ::)

No thanks...  no way I'm spending $100 on 5-6 DVDs to get all the episodes for season 1.  I'll wait for the eventual box set...
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on January 14, 2009, 05:26 PM
GEORGE LUCAS RAPED MY DVD PLAYER! >:(
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darby on January 14, 2009, 05:28 PM
They do mention in the story that there will be a boxed set later in 2009, also on Blu Ray.  I will be waiting.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 14, 2009, 07:44 PM
yeah Ill just get the box set. and if it is coming out this year then i guess I can stop downloa....i mean waiting patiently for it to give on tv up north.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on January 14, 2009, 11:40 PM
Yeah I'm gonna wait and pay $100 for the boxed set.   :-X

heh, j/k...  sorta...  well, maybe not. 

Yeah though, **** George Lucas with cauliflower because that's a real dickhole maneuver.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: JangoTat on January 15, 2009, 01:05 AM
my guess is $40 for DVD $70 for the blu ray. cant see 20 episodes going for $100, not even Lucas will be able to pull that one off.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2009, 02:11 AM
I'll wait for the box set. I'm not falling for this volume nonsense.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: BrentS on January 15, 2009, 04:55 PM
Blu-ray Box set for me please (with digital copies too I hope)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on January 16, 2009, 12:57 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/010916-Clone-Wars-Weekly.html) has a little feature on this week's episode "Jedi Crash" up over at their site.  I guess this episode was written by Katie Lucas.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: iFett on January 16, 2009, 01:11 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/010916-Clone-Wars-Weekly.html) has a little feature on this week's episode "Jedi Crash" up over at their site.  I guess this episode was written by Katie Lucas.

Is that a good or bad thing?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on January 17, 2009, 11:16 AM
WOW. Those talking lemurs were really annoying. That may have been the worst episode yet. :-\
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 18, 2009, 09:25 AM
Just watched Jedi Crash, it was an interesting episode but not that great.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg on January 18, 2009, 03:16 PM
This seemed like an episode in which one good segment made the whole episode good to me. I thought that the space atmosphere battle in the beginning was very well done. Cool effects, lots of action, and something I really wanted to see from the series. The tactical droid was funny, reminded me of one of those crazy villains from the StarFox videogame. After the first commercial break, the episode kinda flopped. I like the Lemurs, but hated the voices. I wouldn't mind seeing the Ithorian Warriors in the series at some point, as well as Clone Troopers with those attack dog creatures. Some of the ROTS concept art is very intruiging andit was nice to see some of the designs used.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on January 18, 2009, 06:59 PM
So Aayla Secura is french (nice nod to the actresss that portrayed her in the films), but did they land on the planet Ireland?   :D

Not the greatest episode, but I liked the nod to Quinlan Vos.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: DSJ™ on January 22, 2009, 09:51 PM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars "A Galaxy Divided" on DVD (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news_galaxydivided_dvd.html)
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: Nicklab on January 22, 2009, 10:19 PM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars "A Galaxy Divided" on DVD (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news_galaxydivided_dvd.html)

Only 4 episodes on a disc is somewhat disappointing.  I'd really rather get the full season all at once.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2009, 06:30 PM
George Takei is a guest voice tonight on CW...  I cannot wait to hear who he's voicing.  I love Takei ever since he joined the Stern show part-time, and I just know it's gonna be funny hearing his distinct voice as some SW character now.
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2009, 09:33 PM
I liked just hearing Takei's voice as that fat Neimoidian...  That's funny for no real reason at all. 

The episode was ok...  New weapon, testing it on lemur's with scottish accents...  It was a nice enough 2-parter I think, with action, technoloy, etc.  I enjoyed it.

Next week's looks much cooler though.  Seeing the diplomatic necessities that the war would cause, it's cool to see Kenobi leading some Clones for an episode on a mission to just settle a problem down.  Looks like cool Clones in next episode too, with cool vehicles and whatnot.  And Muftak's species making an appearance?  Neat.

I wanted to note too about this week's episode that I thought the comic that went with it was cool.  It rolled the Amanin out again, and man they make a cool species when you can actually move them around and do something with them other than have them stand around with a staff.  One of my favorite alien species without a doubt, mostly because they roll around to get from point a to point b. 
Title: Re: Clone Wars 3D
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2009, 10:51 PM
I liked tonight's episode (and the two parter in general) pretty well.  I can see why some don't care for the "lemur species", but like Jesse mentioned, the action was pretty cool and its nice to see characters like Aayla and Bly get featured a bit.  That said, I agree with Jesse that next week's episode looks pretty cool.  I've been hoping for an Obi-Wan focused episode, and the cold weather clones/vehicles/gear look pretty sweet.  Definitely looking forward to that one.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on January 23, 2009, 10:53 PM
I liked tonight's episode (and the two parter in general) pretty well.  I can see why some don't care for the "lemur species", but like Jesse mentioned in the other thread, the action was pretty cool and its nice to see characters like Aayla and Bly get featured a bit.  That said, I think that next week's episode looks pretty cool.  I've been hoping for an Obi-Wan focused episode, and the cold weather clones/vehicles/gear look pretty sweet.  Definitely looking forward to that one.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on January 24, 2009, 09:36 AM
Preview clip (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000754.html) up for next week's episode, "Trespass".  Looks very Hoth-y, and pretty cool to me.  Also, I noticed on the front page, the CW character image this week looks very similar to a Biker Scout (or the Elite Corps troops, whichever you prefer).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darby on January 24, 2009, 11:21 AM
Yeah, next week looks great.  The Phase 1 snowtroopers look a lot like the McQuarrie Snowtrooper.   :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 24, 2009, 02:18 PM
Defenders of Peace was OK, still not the best tho. Those Lemmings Lemurs were just plain Irish like Matt mentioned. Oh me lucky charms!  :D

Next weeks looks sweet, nice & cold & more action.  8)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: The Stolen CCG License on January 26, 2009, 12:15 AM
I guess it's supposed to be all, I dunno, poignant or something, when things happen like Aayla rescuing the clone who kills her in Episode 3...

but I'm increasingly just finding it irritating.  The Clone Wars has already been a lot of fun... so much fun that I'd be happier just divorcing it from the Prequels and the whole Anakin storyline.  In my world, there should be some rocking Clone Wars, then 30 years of off-screen evolution that eventually spits out a full-on evil Darth Vader and evil Stormtrooper Empire without us having to watch it happen.  These little reminders here and hints there aren't helping make Order 66 seem even more devastating, they're just making it harder for me to ignore how clumsy I found the whole affair.  I'm sure I'm probably wrong somehow, and I'd rather not feel this way, but this seems to be how I'm feeling about it.  Can't I just root for Anakin and the Clones and be left alone?   
   
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on January 26, 2009, 12:47 AM
Preview clip (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000754.html) up for next week's episode, "Trespass".  Looks very Hoth-y, and pretty cool to me.  Also, I noticed on the front page, the CW character image this week looks very similar to a Biker Scout (or the Elite Corps troops, whichever you prefer).

just the treath/d I was looking for...I like to rediscovering things etc.

The Snowtrooper is Rex in cold gear since he is along with Anakin & Obi in this Icy planet.

dunno about the Recon Scout, but is awesome!

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/CW-newtroopers.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/CW-Ana-Obi-CloneSnowees.jpg)


We would see the ROTS George Lucas Wroonian filthy race in action

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/CW-Wroonians.jpg)


Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on January 28, 2009, 05:08 PM
A new preview clip (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=25554) is up at Newsarama for this week's episode, "Trespass".  I still think this week's episode looks pretty cool, and I'm hoping we get figures (and vehicles) of all this "cold weather gear" type stuff.  Anyways, nice little clip for those interested.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on January 29, 2009, 04:12 PM
A new preview clip (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=25554) is up at Newsarama for this week's episode, "Trespass".  I still think this week's episode looks pretty cool, and I'm hoping we get figures (and vehicles) of all this "cold weather gear" type stuff.  Anyways, nice little clip for those interested.

There was not a Commander Bacara at all, but great episode, the snowtroopers were more faithful the the concept art as was the snow land according to Filoni...

But what the heck is happened with that misinformation by Wookieepedia? it seems that neither for the next chapter there will be a Commander Bacara  ::)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on January 31, 2009, 11:18 AM
Edited:

The Death of Commander Mag & his troops by Talz, was the reason for Jedi Obi and Anakin to come for an investigation in Ep 15: Trespass.

They look so cool.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/CW-ShivCommnderMag.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on January 31, 2009, 04:41 PM
Just watched Trespass, fricken' sweet episode. The cold weather gear looked great on the troopers & the vehicle bikes are sweet too. Chairman Cho, what an ******* & he deserved what he got. As for Senator Chuchi... I'd hit it!  ;)

A preview trailer for The Hidden Enemy (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000758.html) is up.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Darby on January 31, 2009, 05:44 PM
I thought Trespass was the best episode of the series so far, and not just because of all the awesome Snowtroopers.  Good writing, good story.  And I love the Talz.  I hope Hasbro makes some of those, but with them apparently not doing Nadarr, one has to doubt how obscure they're going to get with the line.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on February 1, 2009, 12:02 AM
So far I go with this mature episoe & rookies.

Sooner or later we will see this guy in action...can't wait to see the chapter  :)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/CW-whitescout.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on February 1, 2009, 11:41 PM
I thought the nod to McQuarrie concept snowtroopers was a great touch. They even use the same concept helmet markings on Rex.

(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/coldrex.jpg)(http://www.yakface.com/jayson/coldrex2.jpg)

Does anyone else think there may have been a subtle nod to the whole blue/brown Han coat debate too.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on February 1, 2009, 11:54 PM
Yes Filoni stated that in one of the clips...

Now I'm interested to find the illustrated book where they said they took inspiration of/for  McQuarrie snowees & troopers for Trespass. I bet its an out of print book  ::)  :)

They said Ep V Hoth was not faithfull to the illustrations & lands cuz in the mov was based in real locations not CG etc.<--- Sorry for my brocken english.

Love the concept art:


(http://starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode015/illo.jpg)
(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode015/bts07.jpg)
(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode015/bts03.jpg)
(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode015/bts04.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on February 2, 2009, 09:48 AM
"Trespass" may have been my favorite episode yet, or at least in the top few.  The Hoth sequences are some of my favorites parts of Star Wars in general, so that might have something to do with it.  The clone snowies looked pretty cool, and I even liked the "cold weather" get up for Obi-Wan and Anakin.  Nice use of the Talz species in here too.  I hope we see toys of all this stuff, including the speeders, very cool.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2009, 05:02 PM
My only gripe is that the Talz were established as being off-world already, so that taints EU a little.  I'm sorta putting these as like Humans coming from a variety of planets.  Talz and other species maybe evolved on various planets...  Still though, there's a Talz Jedi in the original CW, and now they were just discovered during the CW?  That was a continuity snaffu.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on February 2, 2009, 05:05 PM
Also of note that the bio for Baron Papanoida (Lucas in smurf disquise from EIII) has been retconned to make him of the same species as the Pantorans.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 2, 2009, 08:29 PM
I wonder if he becomes the next control freak ******* to take over their race?  It'd fit his personality even.  Cute tie-in. ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Phantom-like Menace on February 3, 2009, 02:32 PM
The only thing about this episode I didn't like was the fact that they chose Talz for this story. I know Lucas has no need to adhere to established EU, which includes Foul Moudama as a Talz Jedi, but as Jesse James said, they could be an isolated, primitive population of the species. It just seems dialogue could have been changed only slightly and fixed everything. They didn't have to be called creatures, and if Obi-Wan had mentioned encountering Talz before, it would have been more believable that he would be able to negotiate a meeting.

Otherwise, everything was pretty cool.

Sorry for my brocken english.

What's your native language? I'm certain you speak English better than I speak your language, even if it's one I've studied, so no worries. Anyone who learns this crazy language after their own language has my respect.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2009, 07:03 PM
I've often found foreign folks usually speak better English than Americans do, so don't feel bad Theta.

About the Talz...  Yeah, I was disappointed, but I'm really to the point that I consider Star Wars not much different than Star Trek...  Lots of species that look/sound/act the same, but from different planets.  My Star Wars has Jawas being indigenous to a number of planets...  Humans are indigenous to a number of planets, etc.  Corellia, Naboo, Alderaan, etc. all have indigenous humans...  Other species can have that too...  Some are less common, some have small differences (extra set of eyes, or like ST they have maybe just slightly different physical features like pointy ears or a ridge on their nose, spots, or something).  That's just how I've come to accept things...  The Talz have "cousins" that haven't evolved past a more primitive state, but there are Talz from a more evolved planet out there cruising the galaxy, becoming Jedi, and just livin' it large like any other advanced species.

It helps me sleep at night with these continuity errors nobody gives a **** about.

In turnabout though, I think it's cool that Baron Papanoidia is now part of that Chairman Cho guy's species.  Cool tie-in there, and adds something to Lucas' character...  sorta.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on February 5, 2009, 07:24 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=25774) has a preview clip up from this week's episode, "Hidden Enemy".  From what I understand this is a "prequel" episode to the Clone Wars movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg on February 5, 2009, 08:20 PM
Prequel to the prequel of that one prequel that was the third sequel from the series of prequels. Oh boy, this is getting fun!   ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on February 5, 2009, 11:53 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=25774) has a preview clip up from this week's episode, "Hidden Enemy".  From what I understand this is a "prequel" episode to the Clone Wars movie.

Exactly, also perhaps thats why there was not Ashoka Tano in Trespass, finaly we will understand the movie better. Now I know that all chapter are "not" in alphabetical order, could be 2 or 3 but not all.

 PS: these guys are  George Lucas "wanna bessss" by going back & foward  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Theta 288 on February 7, 2009, 08:16 AM
That Haircut says it all right  ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 7, 2009, 04:59 PM
Good episode, can't wait till next week for the double feature.  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 9, 2009, 02:28 AM
An outstanding episode and it did fit with the opening of the film fairly well...  I'm excited for two new episodes in one week.  This week's though was very well made from a production standpoint I felt.  The way the story took Ani/Obi away and things, and the thoughts of a Clone traitor, and then who it was...  It wasn't exactly a Sherlock Holmes novel or anything but it was still neat, and I thought it was a great military episode too.

It was interesting how a planet under military dispute can turn into this possibly very long-term battle with troops for both sides getting entrenched on it and just basically duking it out too.  This gives an interesting insight into the SW galaxy.  I think a lot of people think of combat as basically the Rebels hitting and running and things, but it shows that forces can embed themselves, and a planet could theoretically be fought over for very long time periods with both sides having fixed "bases" on the planet, and it just becoming a conventional war for a single planet, basically.  It's not like you can just bombard everyone from orbit and "win". 

Stuff like this makes the importance of numerical superiority, and things like the Death Star all the more important.  The DS really would be a decisive tactical advantage, but without that you would be hard pressed to "control" all these planets.  Fighting on planets you don't want to just pulverize could be going on all over the place, and spreading resources thin.  This seems to be sort of something going on in the Clone Wars...  Just from a military POV it's interesting to me.

This episode did set up some of the movie.  Not a lot, and ultimately it just happens to take place before and on the same planet the movie started with, but it does do a slight lead-in with the armor/weapons loss and things.  It could've just as easily been another planet or something, and the story would've worked fine.  I like that it tied the movie to it though.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 10, 2009, 04:10 AM
I didn't like the fact that there was a clone traitor.  It's like when they have a Secret Service agent try to assassinate the President.  It's just not believeable to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 10, 2009, 08:55 AM
Cartoon Network Picks Up Second Season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars (http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news20090209.html)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on February 10, 2009, 08:59 AM
StarWars.com (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000764.html) has a preview up for the "Ryloth Trilogy" that was apparently shown at NYCC.  I think this is the Season 1 finale (3 parter).  Looks like lots of Mace Windu in these episodes, and they look pretty nifty so far.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 10, 2009, 09:17 AM
Holy crap! That's looks awesome, lot's of battles & Mace looks like he's pissed.  8)

That one guy on the bridge sounds like Kirk from ST & what's with shooting at Will?  :D

Blue Shadow Virus (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000762.html) looks interesting.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on February 10, 2009, 08:53 PM
Really looking forward to some Mace Windu action! ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 10, 2009, 09:14 PM
Deifnitely a nice looking sequence of episodes coming up, and a great way to close out the season.  I'm geeked to watch that 3-parter.  I like seeing Naboo have a little action on it too though, other than lame romance between bad actors. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: King_Maul on February 10, 2009, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the links guys.  Some great action for sure.  Friday nights has become standard stay at home and watch TV night with entertaining CWs and BSG episodes.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on February 13, 2009, 10:10 PM
OH. MY. GOD. :o

Those two episodes were the most hideous additions to Star Wars it has ever been my extreme displeasure to witness. I am stunned those ghastly turds were even be allowed to be aired. I mean WOW. My jaw dropped and stayed down for the entire torturous hour. After every episode, I add new characters to my wishlist in the Clone Wars section, but this time I don't think I'm gonna bother.

WOW.

All I can say is that the Ryloth trilogy had better be pretty damn good to make up for the **** they put us through tonight. Because that was just unfuckinbelievable. :P
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jayson on February 13, 2009, 10:39 PM
I agree. Utterly forgettable. Jar Jar continues to be the turd in the punchbowl of the Saga..

They need to have a massive space battle episode done in the style Master and Commander or the battle of Midway.

Imagine having swarms of Vulture Droids and Pod Hunters going kamikaze into the bridges, gun emplacements, engines and hanger bays of a few Republic Cruisers. The episode then focuses on one of the cruisers to tell the tale of the survival and sacrifice of its crew. They know that their ship is all but lost, they evacuate aside from a few brave souls who stay on board to disable the navi-computer and then go to lightspeed head long into the Separatist fleet, sacrificing themselves to save the rest of the Republic fleet.

I think that could be a little better than Jar Jar getting his tongue stuck in the dome of an Astromech and subsequently toppling a bunch of shelves.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: King_Maul on February 13, 2009, 11:02 PM
I wonder if I should even spend the hour watching it tonight???  May be, I'll just catch up on some reading instead ;).
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on February 14, 2009, 10:40 AM
they evacuate aside from a few brave souls who stay on board to disable the navi-computer and then go to lightspeed head long into the Separatist fleet, sacrificing themselves to save the rest of the Republic fleet.

Can two of the brave souls be Ahsoka and Jar Jar? :D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 15, 2009, 01:08 PM
Just watched the double flick episodes. Jar Jar the buffoon numpty to get blaster training to sharpen his skills. Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!  ::)

Tho it was nice to see almost an hour, it was not the best.   :-\

Next week looks like Yoda is badass!  8)
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on February 15, 2009, 01:16 PM
So are they just re-running "Ambush" next week?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: King_Maul on February 15, 2009, 01:22 PM
I did end up watching the 1 hour/2 episode run, and the only thing I really got out of it was Anakin was starting to show his uncontrolled anger and feelings toward Padme more.  I'm not sure why Jar Jar is getting so much air time, but his goofiness and character is annoying.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 15, 2009, 01:26 PM
So are they just re-running "Ambush" next week?

Yeah, hence the double episode this week. Still yoda is badass.  ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: David on February 15, 2009, 05:14 PM
So are they just re-running "Ambush" next week?

Yeah, hence the double episode this week. Still yoda is badass.  ;D

Agreed! "Ambush" is a terrific episode and still one of my favorites. ;D
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: King_Maul on February 16, 2009, 01:02 AM
So are they just re-running "Ambush" next week?

Yeah, hence the double episode this week. Still yoda is badass.  ;D

Agreed! "Ambush" is a terrific episode and still one of my favorites. ;D

Is that the one that was shown on TNT (I think) after the NBA Slam Dunk Contest?  Yoda and his three 3 red clones, one being Thire, has to deal with Ventress.  Yep, Yoda kicked butt in that entire episode.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2009, 01:54 AM
I got to watch these Saturday night finally... 

First, Jar Jar isn't that bad to me in the cartoon...  He's an idiot, but he somehow seems better than he was in the film.  Maybe it's the context of cartoons that helps him be less annoying to me, I don't know.  He doesn't add anything, nor does he take away to me, so I'm not bothered by him.  His first episode was his best though...  He's become more like he's crowbarred in lately.

Second, I thought the overall story of the 2 episodes was good...  I found the evil dr. (with a German accent...  developing biogenics to cause mass destruction...  Was this guy plucked out of a WW2 history book?) much more annoying than Jar was, actually.  But the story I thought was pretty decent...  It would've been nice had it been a Neimoidian as the evil dr. though, just so you could tie it to why he's on Naboo, maybe seeking revenge or whatever.

Third, I really dug Anakin and Obi-Wan at odds with one another.  Anakin's flip in ROTS becomes more believable when you see some of the "depth" to it.

I thought the moon planet place with the bad kid was kind of funny actually, and had a great Star Warsy feel to it.  I do think this series could stand some good sized space battles.  I know someone else mentioned that and I agree wholeheartedly.  They've lacked that for the most part so far.  The 2D toon even gave us that, so it'd be nice to see in the 3D one.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Brian on February 16, 2009, 09:57 AM
I got to watch these Saturday night finally... 

First, Jar Jar isn't that bad to me in the cartoon...  He's an idiot, but he somehow seems better than he was in the film.  Maybe it's the context of cartoons that helps him be less annoying to me, I don't know.  He doesn't add anything, nor does he take away to me, so I'm not bothered by him.  His first episode was his best though...  He's become more like he's crowbarred in lately.

Second, I thought the overall story of the 2 episodes was good...  I found the evil dr. (with a German accent...  developing biogenics to cause mass destruction...  Was this guy plucked out of a WW2 history book?) much more annoying than Jar was, actually.  But the story I thought was pretty decent...  It would've been nice had it been a Neimoidian as the evil dr. though, just so you could tie it to why he's on Naboo, maybe seeking revenge or whatever.

Third, I really dug Anakin and Obi-Wan at odds with one another.  Anakin's flip in ROTS becomes more believable when you see some of the "depth" to it.

I thought the moon planet place with the bad kid was kind of funny actually, and had a great Star Warsy feel to it.  I do think this series could stand some good sized space battles.  I know someone else mentioned that and I agree wholeheartedly.  They've lacked that for the most part so far.  The 2D toon even gave us that, so it'd be nice to see in the 3D one.

Yeah, definitely not two of the better episodes this past week.  Like Jesse, Jar Jar doesn't annoy me quite as much as others - but I still think they overdo the stupidity aspect of his character a bit.  I mean, its well know how much fans hate that TPM version of Jar Jar, and they have an opportunity to play up some other sides (less annoying) of his character in this series, but it doesn't seem like they are doing it.

The "evil scientist" was definitely over the top in this episode though.  For some reason, I sort of liked the kid's "reprogrammed" battle droid army, with their various variations and everything.  Silly, but sort of amusing.  I agree about the space battles, we're long overdue there.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Jesse James on February 16, 2009, 12:39 PM
I liked the kid, he didn't bother me at all...  I thought the whole planet he was on was pretty interesting.

Did the Dr. remind anyone of Gold Member from the Austin Powers movies?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 16, 2009, 02:17 PM
I like watching the show, but if it went away it wouldn't bother me too much.  Kinda weird eh?
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg on February 16, 2009, 02:46 PM
I liked the kid, he didn't bother me at all...  I thought the whole planet he was on was pretty interesting.

Did the Dr. remind anyone of Gold Member from the Austin Powers movies?

Oooh yesh yesh yesh yesh yesh. I will unleashed my gold shadow virus!
Yeah, the accent did make the doctor sound like Goldmember. I though the voice sounded familiar but I couldn't quite place it.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: DSJ™ on February 16, 2009, 03:05 PM
Clip from Clone Wars - Episode 17 "Blue Shadow Virus" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oislorAesRs)

(http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/logans_run_palm.JPG) = (http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/episode018/img04.jpg)

T-minus 1 post & game over man!
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Post by: David on February 28, 2009, 01:58 PM
Pretty good episode last night. Ahsoka was actually decent this time, and the space battles are always neat. It was cool to see the Y-Wings and the Plunk Droid again. Looking forward to the Mace Windu stuff next week! :)
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Post by: Matt_Fury on February 28, 2009, 11:24 PM
I think last night's episode was one of the more solid, enjoyable ones.  I'm looking forward to the last two.
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 1, 2009, 06:28 AM
Just watched Storm Over Ryloth, the space battles were cool.

Did you catch R2-KT in the hanger?

(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i306/DSJcdn/Random/CloneWarsR2-KT.jpg)
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Post by: Jesse James on March 2, 2009, 12:53 AM
I thought it was a red droid, which was probably due to my TV more than anything.  Cool to see her...  Cool to see a good space battle too, and something very war-centric for the series, unlike the whole "super weapon" thing they go with now and then.  It was a pretty good episode that should tie together to the others nicely, hopefully.

I'm anxious to see the last two now.
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 8, 2009, 05:59 AM
Just watched part 2, Innocents of Ryloth. Lot's of shoot 'em up things, nice story with the young Twi'lek & the Clone Troopers.

Part 3, Liberty on Ryloth (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000782.html) looks good with Mace in action.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 9, 2009, 02:50 PM
I've enjoyed the last two episodes and both tied nicely together...

It was nice to see some good space action, and to see some kind of strategy going on what with the Cruiser rolling over to draw in the Frigates.  I liked that this tactic was pulled directly from EU sources too, from the Thrawn Trilogy...  That was a nice nod to probably the best EU material out there.

I thought Ahsoka's plight was nice, but her acting was meh, so it sort of diminished a little of the "feeling".  I liked the action though, and seeing the V-19's getting a little bit of action early on since they're largely left out of things at times.

I thought then this last episode was interesting.  HEavy artillery proving what it could do against landing craft was neat, and why you can't just land when/where you want to all the time.  Things like that flesh out how combat in SW works...  Same as Cristophsis fleshes out siege warfare and whatnot.  It's interesting stuff.

The Clones side-story was nice and showed maybe a hint that some Clones think dramatically different than others, and they're not all the same, yada yada yada...  It leaves that opening that some didn't turn on the Jedi and whatnot.

I liked seeing the EMP grenades you use in Republic Commando getting used for the first time in the toon to minimize collateral damage too.  Pretty neat stuff.

All in all, I'm really digging this storyline so far, and I'm anxious for the next two episodes (are the next two part of the storyline, or just the next one, and the last episode is stand-alone?).  Oh and it was nice to just see Cody/Kenobi for once too.  No Ani/Ahsoka duo...  I like seeing Kenobi and his troops alone sometimes, or a new Jedi (Windu) will be nice too...  Anakin/Ahsoka are too often the focus I feel.
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 13, 2009, 08:43 PM
It was the two nicer episodes after that disastrous Ep 17 in Naboo.

I love space battle, so I was cheering Ashoka in her 1st try as pilot leader, poor little one  :), the next Ep, well, I love Cloninni chapters as well, pretty little Twilek, the Clone was attached to the little one, probably he will have a son like RC Darman of Omega squad if he survives the odds  :)
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Post by: Jayson on March 13, 2009, 10:52 PM
Tonight's episode was pretty mediocre when compared to the first 2 in the arc. I thought the Droid Bombers were cool - another nice nod to the OT. Mace was good, as were his troops but the rest of the characters were boring.
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Post by: Darby on March 14, 2009, 12:14 AM
It was nice to see Mace, but tonight was hugely anti-climactic and hugely pointless.  That bridge?  You've got air support... and space ships that have established air superiority... so what matter is a bridge to Minas Tirith?  I mean Ryloth City?
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 14, 2009, 12:43 AM
I have to see it tomorrow, dont have cable yet hehe...

I will be more focused in the Scout RT drivers than anything else  :)
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 14, 2009, 08:16 PM
Just watched Liberty of Ryloth, yeah the bridge thing was WTF. Bridge on... bridge off... bridge on... etc. Could have use a ship to get in. As for Mace, the force was strong with him.

Clip up for Hostage Crisis (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000786.html)
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 14, 2009, 11:46 PM
Nice Episode, Windu is one of my favorite Jedies.
Nex Ep cool to see Aurra Sing (But I would prefer her in an event with Ki-Adi-Mundi & the Jedi Tusken father/son Sharads ....
Can't help to notice that they are re-using the same actor's voice of Dukoo for the Blue guy  :P
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Post by: Brian on March 16, 2009, 09:21 AM
I enjoyed the end of the Ryloth trilogy, but agreed on the bridge stuff.  Mace did come off as pretty cool in the episode though I thought, and I liked the use of the AT-RT walkers.  It seems like this series has done a good job of showcasing a lot of the vehicles from the prequels and making them look cool, as we just got short glimpses of them in the movies.

The season finale, hostage crisis, looks like it could be pretty cool.  Definitely looking forward to it.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 17, 2009, 05:08 PM
I liked the idea of the plasma bridge, actually.  Ryloth till then had been shown as kind of a backwater lame world, but the city they were assaulting was clearly a more modern and sci-fi looking place, and I thought it was pretty interesting...  The greed thing that wound up keeping the bridge open/up was interesting from a story point of view too.

But really I thought the plasma bridge was a cool piece of technology...  Much better than them using some kind of drawbridge type thing.  This seemed much more of a positive sci-fi explanation to me, as to why they have a bridge for protection into the city... 

I thought the whole 3-parter was good.  They're really whoring the new Clint Eastwood Duros...  I see Aurra Sing is in this week's episode too.  Interesting for sure.
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Post by: Brian on March 18, 2009, 07:16 PM
Newsarama (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=26723) has a little teaser video up for this week's season finale of Clone Wars, looks kinda neat.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 19, 2009, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the link Brian...

I'm liking him, a LOT.  I'm liking seeing Sing coming up, and generally these other badasses, and what appears to be an episode of pure violence and evil ****.  I like it.  Seems like they want to go out on a more adult note for the season and I couldn't agree more.
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Post by: David on March 19, 2009, 11:55 AM
AWESOME preview. I'm really looking forward to this episode!
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Post by: Scott on March 20, 2009, 10:54 PM
Overall I'd give season 1 a solid B+.  I still think the concept of Anakin having a Padawan is completely asinine and she annoys the hell out of me.  The greatest that is the rest of the stuff far outshines anything Ahsoka ruins.  There is so many cool little things happening all over (like 2 weeks ago when one of the cruisers got shot down coming in to the city) or this week and the inclusion of Aurra Sing.  When random R5 droids pop up or some dude we saw in Episode III is in the background or those cool hybrid Y-wings.  This is the story of cool likeable Anakin which makes his fall in Episode III all the more tragic, to me at least.    What is also neat is there is really a lot more to tell, and the idea of a live action series next year has me as giddy as a schoolgirl.
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Post by: David on March 20, 2009, 11:59 PM
That season finale was awesome beyond all reason. I dug the bounty hunters, the Senate Guards, the Droid Commandos, and all the dark violent stuff (the bunny droid getting shot made me fall off the couch laughing my ass off). Cad Bane is excellent and I even liked the little fish guy. Like Jesse said, they're whoring the **** out of him, but it is good to see that he'll continue to play a big role in Season 2.

Great, great stuff. ;D
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Post by: DSJ™ on March 22, 2009, 10:34 AM
Hostage Crisis was pretty good, yeah I laughed when that bunny droid got shot.  ;D

Bane is pretty sneaky & bad ass.  8)

A long wait till next season, hopefully it's as good as the first season.
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Post by: GrandMoffNick on March 22, 2009, 11:27 AM
I think the season was great.

And whereas I am curious to see where the Anakin/Ahsoka thing will go and end, I really like her and she doesn't ruin anything AND I think kids really like her and this Cartoon Network show is very much for kids.
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 22, 2009, 03:02 PM
One of the most exiting episodes.
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Post by: Jesse James on March 23, 2009, 02:10 AM
So I finally got to watch this this evening...  I thought it was hands down the best episode of the series.  I thought it was close to the Rookies episode, but ultimately I felt it was just better.  Mostly the dark/violent nature of it was what I liked.

The Gran Senator getting gunned down in the back was great, and all the Senate Guard getting shot by Sing and then the last guy getting his neck broke...  Truly violent and just nice to see from Star Wars since it took a big turn away from "kiddy stuff".  The whole last few episodes have been good about that.

I loved Bane though...  Guy's a badass, and cold.  Leaving a cliffhanger for the next season was a good idea.  Even my gf was interested in what's up now. 

On Ahsoka...  Eh, I sorta disagree Scott.  I see the whole having a padawan thing as just the way of the Jedi once they reach knighthood...  You get one for a little while, and she'll move on as she's older to another master.  It's kind of like Obi-Wan's line in ESB where he says to meet Yoda and claims he's the Jedi who taught him...  Was Obi-Wan a padawan to Yoda at one point?  He probably studied at various points in his age/training under different Jedi, but his last before the trials was Qui-Gon...  Ahsoka is also being used as a test for Anakin himself, by Yoda & Co. apparantly, so it's just easier for me to take I guess.

I think she is mostly for the kids, and she's far from my favorite character of the series...  She's pretty far down the list actually, but I'm not annoyed by her either.

And speaking of annoying, I really liked seeing Ziro the Hutt in the episode. :)  I'm sure it pissed off many, but to me I thought he was great.  I love the whole concept of him, and it's interesting how this may tie to the Clone Wars, separatists, and whatnot.
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Post by: Brian on March 23, 2009, 11:10 AM
I really enjoyed the finale as well.  Cad Bane did come off as pretty cool, and I liked the use of Aurra Sing as well (the commentary on SW.com mentions that we'll see more of her).  Its going to be a long wait for Season 2, but it will be a good chance to re-watch a number of these episodes.

For the season overall, I agree with Scott, I'd give it a solid B+ as well.  It wasn't perfect, but there were a lot of good episodes and the show overall was just "fun" to watch.  I think there are some aspects that they touched on better than the prequel movies, particularly seeing Obi-Wan and Anakin as "good friends" as we were originally told in ANH.  I never got much of that feeling in the prequels, aside from a scene or two in ROTS prior to Anakin's turn.  They have also done a nice job of highlighting some lesser known characters and vehicles and made them look pretty cool as well.  I was a little surprised we didn't see more "background" Jedi highlighted during the season, aside from Plo Koon (who we really didn't see past the Malevolence trilogy), Kit Fisto, Mace Windu, and to a lesser extent Luminara and Aayla Secura.  I mean, we've likely got several seasons to go, but I don't think we've hardly seen Jedi like Ki Adi Mundi, Shaak Ti, SaeSee Tiin, and others.  But, there's time for that.

I found Ahsoka more bothersome earlier on, but as the season has gone on I don't think its been quite as bad.  They seem to have tried to tone her down a little bit more as the season went along, and also actually had her "mess up" a little bit here and there as well.  For awhile, she was a little too unstoppable as a padawan - Anakin is the chosen one, not Ahsoka ;).  Otherwise, she hasn't bothered me much - and like I said, has been better in the back half of the season.  Looking towards season 2, I hope we see more Obi-Wan (not just in holograms), more Jedi, more of the bounty hunters, and some more clone-focused episodes as well.  It was a good season, sad to see it end.
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 23, 2009, 12:46 PM
Well I like Ashoka alot, cuz my daughter can love SW, be inspired cuz of  her.
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Post by: Theta 288 on March 24, 2009, 04:06 PM
thex ep look promizing, Bane would be a favorite bad dude character.
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Post by: David on April 4, 2009, 12:03 PM
Does anyone know when this is coming back? I forget.
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Post by: Brian on April 4, 2009, 05:43 PM
Does anyone know when this is coming back? I forget.

As far as new, Season 2 episodes, I think all we've heard is "Fall" - which can mean anywhere from September to November it seems in TV land.  They are playing the season 1 episodes in repeats fairly liberally lately it seems though, still on each Friday at 8 (and the next Saturday morning) and I think they're starting to play them on weekday afternoons this week as well (and I also think they play an episode on the Saturday night adult swim lineup).  There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to what order the play them in though.  I think they've played Bombad Jedi more than any other episode, and they also seem fond of the first four episodes of the season.  I did see Lair of Grievous on this morning, that's one of my favorites.
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Post by: Darth_Anton on April 6, 2009, 10:36 AM
Caught my first ever episode, beyond the theatrical release. I have to say that I was fairly impressed.
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Post by: Brian on April 6, 2009, 08:23 PM
Cartoon Network announced Clone Wars: Decoded (http://www.newsarama.com/tv/040906-SWTCW-Decoded.html).
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Post by: David on April 6, 2009, 09:49 PM
Kinda like the thing they do with LOST.
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Post by: JediShawn on April 13, 2009, 04:56 PM
So I realized with Anakin being more "calm", if you will, that Ahsoka has become the Anakin of the movies. A bit whiny, impatient, quick to anger ("No! That's what you said last time and now all my men are gone! My whole squadron!" You can totally hear Hayden Christensen saying that). I kind of like where she has been going lately with having to face failure.
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Post by: Brian on April 15, 2009, 11:00 AM
IGN (http://tv.ign.com/articles/971/971021p1.html) has a nice interview up with Dave Filoni reflecting on Season 1 and looking towards Season 2.  I've noticed in a lot of interviews with Filoni he really talks about making/modeling the CW series after the "classic movies".  He is also asked about the use of characters like Boba Fett and Quinlan Vos, although he is cagey with his answer.
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Post by: Brian on April 17, 2009, 07:25 PM
I noticed the last few weeks that CN has been showing "fan favorite" episodes on Friday nights in the normal airing spot, at least until they start the "decoded" Clone Wars episodes in May.  It just got me to thinking, what are the favorites among our group here?  What are your top five or so episodes of the season?  I liked the majority of them, but if I narrowed it to five (in no particular order) it would probably be:

1. Ambush
2. Trespass
3. Lair of Grievous
4. Rookies
5. Ryloth Trilogy/Hostage Crisis (I'll cheat a bit on this one)

There were others I liked as well, but those were probably my favorites off the top of my head.
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Post by: David on April 17, 2009, 11:03 PM
Listing my favorites is actually pretty easy for me. Lair of Grievous was pure awesomeness and the other four all had their shining moments of awesomeness to varying degrees.


1. Lair of Grievous
2. Trespass
3. Ambush
4. Cloak of Darkness
5. Hostage Crisis

HONORABLE MENTION:
-Rookies
-The Malvelonce Trilogy
-The Ryloth Trilogy
-The Gungan General :-X


How about everyone's least favorites? For me, it's the Blue Shadow Virus double feature, hands down. Yuck. :P

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Post by: Hobbie on April 18, 2009, 12:37 PM
For those that missed it and haven't voted yet: Green R5 Skate Park CW Promo (http://www.starwars.com/video/view/000684.html)

EDIT:  This was posted here accidentally.  I intended to post this in anoth thread - sorry guys!  (but it is a cool spot.  The fact that the droid was rendered "realistically," apparently just for this spot makes me wonder what the series would have looked like if they would have tried to get away from the 'animated" look completely. )
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Post by: Brian on April 29, 2009, 12:03 PM
For those of you who watched/enjoyed the first season of Clone Wars, I was curious, do you still catch it on reruns now?  I noticed that we still have most of the season on our DVR, and thought it was time to clear some space up and was looking to delete some or most of the season.  Do any of you save and/or rewatch the Clone Wars anymore at this point?  I noticed that this Friday starts the "decoded" episodes, running in order for 22 weeks until the Season 2 premiere from what I understand.
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Post by: Jayson on April 29, 2009, 12:12 PM
For those of you who watched/enjoyed the first season of Clone Wars, I was curious, do you still catch it on reruns now?  I noticed that we still have most of the season on our DVR, and thought it was time to clear some space up and was looking to delete some or most of the season.  Do any of you save and/or rewatch the Clone Wars anymore at this point?  I noticed that this Friday starts the "decoded" episodes, running in order for 22 weeks until the Season 2 premiere from what I understand.

I still do, it's been kind of a routine with my wife and me. Most episodes hold up well on repeated viewings and its fun to look for those "easter eggs" I might have missed during their first run. The only this I haven't rewatched in its entirety is the CW movie. The episode have been far better in my opinion.
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Post by: Brian on April 29, 2009, 12:23 PM
I still do, it's been kind of a routine with my wife and me. Most episodes hold up well on repeated viewings and its fun to look for those "easter eggs" I might have missed during their first run. The only this I haven't rewatched in its entirety is the CW movie. The episode have been far better in my opinion.

I actually just watched the CW movie on DVD a month ago or so for the first time since seeing it the theater.  It may have been having seen the entire season first, but I enjoyed the movie a little bit more the second time around.  I still enjoy the series more as well though.
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Post by: Jayson on May 1, 2009, 09:22 PM
I agree totally. The series for me has made the movie far more enjoyable especially with the "skyguy" and "snip" **** being far less jarring/annoying than it was initially. I hope the series continues to develop the new and unique stories and characters that the first season got into. The later episodes really seemed to find its legs in that regard and I hope the space battles continue to be a strong plot device as well as those seem to translate the best to maintain the "feel" of what is Star Wars.

Anyone catching the Decoded episode tonight? I'll be watching it but I can't imagine it being all too revelatory as I expect the trivia from the StarWars.com CW episode guides being the source for the pop up info for each episode.
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Post by: Jesse James on May 2, 2009, 02:02 AM
I didn't find it amazing or anything, but it  had some stuff that was different.  It basically was a cheap way to remarket Season One so people would watch again.  I won't cry if I miss one, but it was fun to watch for the pop-ups.
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Post by: Angry Ewok on June 1, 2009, 11:38 PM
I'm loving the Decoded episodes... Just wish I had Tivo or something so I could catch up with everyone else. From the handful of episodes I've seen, though, the series is a bazillion times better than the movie.
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Post by: Jesse James on June 2, 2009, 12:45 AM
I really liked the movie...  You guys bum me out.
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Post by: Nicklab on June 2, 2009, 01:41 PM
Caught some of the leaked footage for season 2.  Looks like someone managed to get video of a presentation at Star Wars weekends.  Looks pretty cool.  And there's an increased Bounty Hunter angle.
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Post by: Theta 288 on June 8, 2009, 02:20 AM
Caught some of the leaked footage for season 2.  Looks like someone managed to get video of a presentation at Star Wars weekends.  Looks pretty cool.  And there's an increased Bounty Hunter angle.

Indeed, here is my fav part.

 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus/th_CW-BountyHunter.jpg) (http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Comerus/Comerus/?action=view&current=CW-BountyHunter.flv)
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Post by: Keonobi on June 22, 2009, 12:47 PM
Hey, question about something related to the show.  When they come back from commercial breaks frequently they'll have a time lapse video of someone painting a mural (there is one with a bunch of Clone Trooper helmets) in the foreground is a urban vinyl style figure that is painted up like Cptn Rex.  I've done a couple searches online and I guess the feel of Cartoon Network was styled by Kidrobot and the little animated guys they have for a lot of the shows (the same shape as the Cptn. Rex I mentioned) are based on his Munny design, I guess they are called Noods.  Anyway.  Is there anyplace to buy a Nood?  I see on Kidrobot's website you can buy Munnys, but not Noods.
Title: Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2009, 07:48 PM
Sounds like Season 1 will hit on November 3rd :)

http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news20090715.html

(http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/news20090715/tcw_sm.jpg)
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Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2009, 12:09 AM
Yay! :)

I was really hoping to get a DVD set of Season one, rather than the whole crap of a couple here and there. 
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Post by: BrentS on July 16, 2009, 10:56 AM
That's awesome.  I'll be getting the blu-ray version for sure.
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Post by: Diddly on July 16, 2009, 05:38 PM
I'm surprised they're actually giving us the COMPLETE season and not pulling a Family Guy and giving us 13 episodes of mix and matched seasons and charging $40.
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Post by: Jeff on July 16, 2009, 05:59 PM
I'm surprised they're actually giving us the COMPLETE season and not pulling a Family Guy and giving us 13 episodes of mix and matched seasons and charging $40.

Oh, they are still planning on continuing the "mix-and-match" $20 discs too - the second 4-episode $20 disc is due in September, ahead of this full season 1 set.

Title: Re: The Clone Wars - Season One Discussion Thread
Post by: A.J. on July 28, 2009, 07:43 PM
I missed out on season 1 because I have zero access to a Tv on Friday nights so I'll be getting the DVD. :)
Title: Re: The Clone Wars - Season One Discussion Thread
Post by: Keonobi on October 9, 2009, 02:00 PM
So Orn Free Taa; he's a Twi-Lek, right?  Because it seems like all the other Twi-Leks have two head tails, but Orn seems to have four (from the Ryloth episodes as well as the Senate Seige).
Title: Re: The Clone Wars - Season One Discussion Thread
Post by: Jeff on October 9, 2009, 03:51 PM
Courtesy of the Internet EU Nerds (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Orn_Free_Taa):

Like Chom Frey Kaa, another obese Twi'lek, he differed from the normal Twi'lek in that he had four lekku instead of the normal two. His weight allowed him to develop an anterior set of fatty lekku from the thick brows common in male Twi'leks. In Twi'lek culture this may have been seen as a sign of power or virility.

So, he doesn't have 4 head-tails, he has 2 head tails and two fat-ass eyebrows I guess.   ::)
Title: Re: The Clone Wars - Season One Discussion Thread
Post by: darth_sidious on January 2, 2010, 10:33 PM
I held off buying CW Season 1 on DVD so that someone could pick it up as a gift for me - and I am really amazed how it turned out. I love the book design, and all the sketches and concepts from the Clone Wars series - it makes me want to go track down the actual Clone Wars art book. It would be cool if they do this every year and release a new season in book format with drawings and other behind-the-scenes info, so that by the end of the shows run, we'll have 5 of these matching sets.