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Title: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jeff on May 17, 2009, 06:18 PM
Thread title says it all.  Consider this the "suggestion box" for JediDefender. 

If you have something you'd like to see added (or subtracted) from the site, please let us know and we will investigate any and all options on the topic.  There is no guarantee any action will be taken on your suggestion, but it never hurts to put ideas out there for us to investigate.

Don't want to broadcast your idea in public for fear of backlash?  Then just send me your idea via email and we'll keep it private! 

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 17, 2009, 08:56 PM
Jeff, it's nice to see someone as passionate about the hobby and all around good-guy taking something like this on.

As one suggestion, I thought that the customzing Chop Shop that Jesse started back in late 2006 was going to be fun, but there only ended up being four updates, the last being almost two years ago.  I think that some sort of spotlight like this would be a nice thing to see on a semi-regular basis again.

Also, Jeff I thought the past front page updates you did were great.  I think going back to what you've always been doing will be a great benefit for both JD and its readers.

I guess I'm actually curious if this will have any impact on the future of the Pit? 

Anyways, congratulations Jeff and Paul, best of luck to you in the endeavor.  I am sure you will do a fantastic job.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 17, 2009, 11:58 PM
The return of the front page news will be fantastic if the reporting is anywhere close to what we see on sites like Han's Hideout.  More contests are always a plus as well!

I'd love to have some kind of comrehensive photo archive or even just a reference to tell me which figs are new vs. repacks or if something is a kitbash, where did the parts come from. 

One thing that always comes to mind when I think about JD is the loyal Kubrick following.  I'm wondering if there is someway to make this more ownable and regularly featured.  I love the checklist/guide that Jesse built.

I'd like to see a section titled something like "Here's how it works" from Jeff.  I read a lot of posts/debates/complaints on here about why there is a Legends line or why certain figures are made or shy they don't have better articulation/accessories/etc.  Jeff usually has some pretty good insight on most of these that I think some of us may not have thought about.  Some kind of weekly column/insight/rant from Jeff would be both fun and enlightening.

That's it for now - looking forward to whatever you guys come up with because I know it will be good!

Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediMoses on May 18, 2009, 02:22 PM
Until recently JD was my main/only outlet for SW related news.  As the news coverage understably evaporated, I have found myself less invested, staying largely within the geographic collecting board. 

Regular updates will definitely be a welcome addition, as would the column suggested by Justin - deciphering the action figure business.  Jeff always makes a lot of sense to me.

JD's checklists have been awesome references, and I hope those can be updated regularly.  A place for tracking case assortments would also be nice - would be a nice complement for the DPCI thread. 

While this is a site focused largely on the collecting, opening up the news to other SW-related developments would be great as well. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: jedi_master_sal on May 19, 2009, 02:25 PM
I'm not sure how customizing contest may have worked in the past. So let me make some suggestions.

• Each wave, pick a figure and run a custom contest based on that figure. The contest runs for two months (the now usual time between waves).
• Each wave gets it's own contest. Customizers can pick any figure from the announced wave to custom. The base body must be used (though can be slightly altered and repainted). Limbs/Head can be switched out or customed as much as the customizer wants. The contest runs for two months (the now usual time between waves).
• Theme custom challenge. From a new wave, a figure is to be customed to reflect a character you might see from a preselected source. For example one of the specific movies, Animated shows, video games. To further give an example, let's use the new Hoth wave. The challenge would then be to take one of those figures and customize it to one of the other movies.  Let's say the choice would be ROTS. One example of a custom would be to take the Needa figure and make him a ROTS officer. Or maybe Leia into a Padme fig.

It's up to you what the winner would receive. at the least, I'd say a new figure of the one they customized so the have a replacement for the one the "chopped up."
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 19, 2009, 02:28 PM
I've got a sponsor suggestion.  With so many people ordering Kubricks from NCS, I wonder if you might want to make them a sponsor.  Would also be neat to have a sponsor section/thread so we can easily get to those sponsors from JD instead of going there on our own.   ;)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Paul on May 22, 2009, 09:56 AM


I guess I'm actually curious if this will have any impact on the future of the Pit? 



Change is in the air for sure.

I'm not sure how customizing contest may have worked in the past. So let me make some suggestions



All good suggestions Sal.  Depending on the response from the community we may work some of that in, and if we do use those ideas, we would love to have you sit in as a guest judge if you want.

Right now, I have prizes lined up from some soon to sponsor's of the site and some other places that are customizer focused.  Look for more info in the coming days in the customs section and then get the word out to the customizing community.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 22, 2009, 06:01 PM
How about redesigning the photo archives?  Group items up under the lines they were in, etc.

Just a thought...right now it's the only reason I might go over to RS from time to time.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 22, 2009, 06:12 PM
How about redesigning the photo archives?  Group items up under the lines they were in, etc.

Just a thought...right now it's the only reason I might go over to RS from time to time.

Or partnering with some other site that already has really good photo archives... ;)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on May 22, 2009, 10:38 PM
How about redesigning the photo archives?  Group items up under the lines they were in, etc.

Just a thought...right now it's the only reason I might go over to RS from time to time.

Or partnering with some other site that already has really good photo archives... ;)

Never.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: P-Siddy on May 22, 2009, 11:34 PM
How about redesigning the photo archives?  Group items up under the lines they were in, etc.

Just a thought...right now it's the only reason I might go over to RS from time to time.

Or partnering with some other site that already has really good photo archives... ;)

Never.

I'm guessing Justin means Yak.  ;) Jay does a good job with photos there.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 23, 2009, 10:47 PM
I'm guessing Justin means Yak.  ;) Jay does a good job with photos there.

That's exactly what I meant.   You disagree with that Chris?
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on May 24, 2009, 03:30 AM
I won't comment on anything but negating the possibility of any RS partnerships, as I'm sure RS would agree.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 24, 2009, 03:18 PM
I won't comment on anything but negating the possibility of any RS partnerships, as I'm sure RS would agree.

Never said anything about partnering with those rebel scum.   ;)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Paul on May 24, 2009, 04:13 PM

It is a new new era so you never know what will happen. 

Besides a little known fact, my office is less than 2 miles from Philip's.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: iFett on May 26, 2009, 05:05 PM
I guess I'm actually curious if this will have any impact on the future of the Pit? 

Change is in the air for sure.

I hope it's a deathly change.  Somedays I can't tell if I'm on a political site or a toy collecting one - at least the way I "read" this site.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on May 26, 2009, 10:00 PM
I guess I'm actually curious if this will have any impact on the future of the Pit? 

Change is in the air for sure.

I hope it's a deathly change.  Somedays I can't tell if I'm on a political site or a toy collecting one - at least the way I "read" this site.


I fail to understand this. One forum is for politics, the other 25 or so are for Star Wars/toy collecting.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 26, 2009, 10:33 PM
I have to say that in just this last week its been a complete 180 on this site.  Great scoops hitting the front page, spotlights on customs, even the buzz around the forms seems more alive than it has been in months.  Keep up the great work guys - it is very much appreciated. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jeff on May 26, 2009, 10:38 PM
I fail to understand this.

Some folks out there (like Mike/iFett for example) use the "View the most recent posts on the forum" link to read the forums.  There are parts of some days around here where you politicos get rolling and the "most recent posts" link fills up with many,many politics posts compared to relatively little Star Wars posts. 

I assume it's not a problem for most of the members who click around the forum and can just ignore the Pit, but it is an "annoyance" (for lack of a better word) for "recent posts" users that has been pointed out to me by a few of the folks who have had to change their reading habits in an effort to avoid the politics junk.


Like Paul said, there will most likely be changes to the Sarlaac Pit.  It is a feature enjoyed by many folks, so most likely it won't disappear, but there are probably some changes coming to the Pit...
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: P-Siddy on May 26, 2009, 11:51 PM
Like Paul said, there will most likely be changes to the Sarlaac Pit. 

Instead of a hole in a ground with tentacles, it will now have a digital beak edited into it.  ;)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
Like Paul said, there will most likely be changes to the Sarlaac Pit. 

Instead of a hole in a ground with tentacles, it will now have a digital beak edited into it.  ;)

HAHAha!  Now THAT was funny.   ;D
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on May 27, 2009, 12:58 PM
I can absolutely see how it's a distraction for some people and an annoyance for others.  That's something that I figured would happen... I mean, there's a reason why other sites have not gone the route of allowing an "anything goes" section, at least not that I'm aware of.

However, I have grown quite fond of arguing with certain people, and to be honest, it's what kept me coming back for the past year or so.  Maybe if you keep it, make it an additional login or something... just a thought. 

Whatever you do with the Pit, I'm sure you will make an educated decision. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 27, 2009, 08:26 PM
Any chance of bringing back Figure reviews?  I know JJ stopped mainly because there was no way to get good pictures of the figures, I was curious if there's a plan in the works to start up again though.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Paul on May 27, 2009, 10:38 PM
Any chance of bringing back Figure reviews?  I know JJ stopped mainly because there was no way to get good pictures of the figures, I was curious if there's a plan in the works to start up again though.

Yes there is.  One of my favorite things that JD.com did when I was just a member and staffer was JJ's reviews.  We are going to have some of the next waves set up for review as soon as we can get them.  Be on the lookout for sure.  We promise it will be before the next Rebel Fleet Trooper is released, no matter how much JJ swears that is the "next" time he is going to review a figure.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 27, 2009, 11:22 PM
Why is the out of context forum closed again, presumably by Scott?   ???  He left a cryptic message, but I think he intended to say...

I kept trying to figure out why my left elbow was hurting this afternoon and then I started playing again ...

If you're going to shut down a thread (again), particulary one that survived for 31 pages, it would be nice to have some explanation as to why its being closed.  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Paul on May 27, 2009, 11:38 PM
Scott closed it at my request.  I apologize for any inconvenience, we may move it to a different section later, but for now, it needs a rest.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 28, 2009, 01:30 AM
Any chance of bringing back Figure reviews?  I know JJ stopped mainly because there was no way to get good pictures of the figures, I was curious if there's a plan in the works to start up again though.

Yes there is.  One of my favorite things that JD.com did when I was just a member and staffer was JJ's reviews.  We are going to have some of the next waves set up for review as soon as we can get them.  Be on the lookout for sure.  We promise it will be before the next Rebel Fleet Trooper is released, no matter how much JJ swears that is the "next" time he is going to review a figure.

Awesome news!  It's always been one of my favorite features here.

Now can we chain Chewie to his desk until he puts out a new Ryklof Enloe chapter?   :D
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on May 28, 2009, 01:40 AM
Thanks Matt. :)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Mikey D on May 28, 2009, 08:55 AM
Scott closed it at my request.  I apologize for any inconvenience, we may move it to a different section later, but for now, it needs a rest.

Thank Christ...
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 28, 2009, 10:35 AM
Scott closed it at my request.  I apologize for any inconvenience, we may move it to a different section later, but for now, it needs a rest.

Thank Christ...

A.) I would thank Paul or Scott - I'm pretty sure Christ had little involvement in this.
B.) Why wouldn't you just avoid a thread if you're not interested in it?
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Tracy on May 28, 2009, 02:03 PM
Scott - Thanks for pulling the plug on what was once such a fun thread.  The poor thing had been brain dead and on life support for way too long.   I couldn't bear to watch it suffer any longer - it was certainly an act of mercy and kindness. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jeff on May 29, 2009, 12:18 AM
#1 - Posting private messages from other members in the forums is bad form.  That is why they are called private messages.  Consider this a friendly reminder.


#2 - The out-of-context thread.  A couple weeks back, an exchange of nasty posts caused the thread to get a 2-week time-out.  After the cooling off period it was re-opened but still on probation.  After a few days of further discussion on the topic, we changed our minds and decided maybe it was better left closed.  A majority of the staff thought the same thing that the thread's creator thought -

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Fonzie_jumps_the_shark.PNG)

How many poop and weiner jokes does it take for folks to get bored of them?  About 4 years and 31 pages I guess.  Like Paul said, maybe someday it'll come back, but for now it's resting again.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on May 29, 2009, 10:56 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Fonzie_jumps_the_shark.PNG)

Hrmm.  I assumed that Nate was just a fan of Fonzie with no pants.  Thanks for providing a little more clarity around the closing Jeff. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 30, 2009, 03:34 AM
How many poop and weiner jokes does it take for folks to get bored of them?

For the record, poop and weiner jokes never get old.  Crappy out of context posts get old after four years and 31 pages.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: iFett on May 30, 2009, 09:08 PM
Will JediMac ever return  ???
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on May 30, 2009, 11:50 PM
The word is "no" on that.  Matt is a field reporter for Rebelscum now.  He seemingly convinced Philip they're "old friends" by utilizing a photo he has.  It's a tragic situation.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 31, 2009, 02:32 AM
That post should guarantee his return!

Or a drive to PA to kick the **** out of Jesse!   :D
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on May 31, 2009, 02:34 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on June 3, 2009, 11:19 PM
One suggestion I would like to make is that you guys link to other fan sites more often on the main page with news updates.  I know that quite a bit of other sites have no problem doing so for each other and for JD - I was sort of expecting to see this happen with the new ownership, but so far I haven't seen it.  Hopefully that's in the works though.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: I Am Sith on June 13, 2009, 11:01 PM
Any way we can cut down on the number of members we have with 0 or 1 post to their names even after years of being members?  Just seems like a waste to have to maintain all of their information when they haven't contributed anything to the site.  Just a suggestion, do with it as you wish.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Morgbug on June 15, 2009, 11:16 PM
Any way we can cut down on the number of members we have with 0 or 1 post to their names even after years of being members?  Just seems like a waste to have to maintain all of their information when they haven't contributed anything to the site.  Just a suggestion, do with it as you wish.

You never know what'll happen though.  I think if folks aren't causing a problem by their inactivity, then leave them be.  I remember when this idea floated through 'Scum and it started becoming a status thing about who had x number of posts in such and such a period of time.  I know that's not your intent Michael, but I think it can end up being perceived as such.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on June 15, 2009, 11:22 PM
I think JD staff should give out free rare Kubricks to anyone with at least 5788 posts.   >:D
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Ryan on June 16, 2009, 09:20 AM
Any way we can cut down on the number of members we have with 0 or 1 post to their names even after years of being members?  Just seems like a waste to have to maintain all of their information when they haven't contributed anything to the site.  Just a suggestion, do with it as you wish.

You never know what'll happen though.  I think if folks aren't causing a problem by their inactivity, then leave them be.  I remember when this idea floated through 'Scum and it started becoming a status thing about who had x number of posts in such and such a period of time.  I know that's not your intent Michael, but I think it can end up being perceived as such.

Another problem that would create is it would make catching trolls and spammers more difficult. When someone signs up we are able to see if they have the same IP address as anyone who has posted here before.  A lot of times we'll delete spammers posts, or move them to our super secret section where they are looked after by top men, so they may only have 0 or 1 posts. If we were to delete these accounts it makes it much easier for them to register again under with a sock account and slip under the radar.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 16, 2009, 11:11 AM
...or move them to our super secret section where they are looked after by top men...

Who?
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Ryan on June 16, 2009, 11:12 AM
TOP men.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Angry Ewok on June 16, 2009, 11:17 AM
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Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: I Am Sith on June 16, 2009, 11:57 AM
You never know what'll happen though.  I think if folks aren't causing a problem by their inactivity, then leave them be.  I remember when this idea floated through 'Scum and it started becoming a status thing about who had x number of posts in such and such a period of time.  I know that's not your intent Michael, but I think it can end up being perceived as such.

Another problem that would create is it would make catching trolls and spammers more difficult. When someone signs up we are able to see if they have the same IP address as anyone who has posted here before.  A lot of times we'll delete spammers posts, or move them to our super secret section where they are looked after by top men, so they may only have 0 or 1 posts. If we were to delete these accounts it makes it much easier for them to register again under with a sock account and slip under the radar.

Good explanations guys, thanks.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediMoses on August 2, 2009, 03:41 AM
Any chance the checklists can be updated this year?
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 5, 2009, 09:55 AM
One suggestion I would like to make is that you guys link to other fan sites more often on the main page with news updates.  I know that quite a bit of other sites have no problem doing so for each other and for JD - I was sort of expecting to see this happen with the new ownership, but so far I haven't seen it.  Hopefully that's in the works though.

Bump.

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_CloudCarProto3Loose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_SnowspeederProto4Loose_TN.jpg) (http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_SwampSpeederProtoLoose_TN.jpg)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on December 5, 2009, 11:33 AM
A suggestion for you CHEWIE, is that you may want to actually read the story and see, those aren't all the same images the other sites have posted.   Especially when you linked the thumbs from our own front page, and at least ome is even different from any other sites right there if you look close.  :)  Not to mention they're larger, more detailed, extra variety of a couple, and so on.  These weren't from the other sites (though I see a couple sites lifted the images directly for their forums I guess).
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on December 5, 2009, 12:16 PM
Chewie. Accuracy. Fact.

Which one doesn't belong?

 :P
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 5, 2009, 03:50 PM
This is not the first time something like this has happened.  And for whatever reason, I'm personally receiving questions and outraged comments from certain individuals who wish to remain anonymous regarding this who were rather put off by it.  The argument is that it's easy to enlarge images and other fan sites were already giving Coreplanets their due with this latest new bit prior to the front page announcement here.  If your unnamed "friend" gave you the images including some new ones, great.  But a lot of people who saw Coreplanets receiving their due credit for breaking this news is going to see this as petty, whether it's justified or not.

Do as you please though, it's your reputation (http://www.coreplanets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6592&page=2) that can come into question with this sort of thing, but ultimately it's your decision.  All I'm doing is having the guts to be the one to raise my hand and say "That looks petty" and taking the opportunity in your public suggestions area to make you aware that some people are put off by it. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on December 5, 2009, 06:12 PM
No, it isn't easy to enlarge images and maintain the quality of the image.

Really, this website is questioning that JediDefender stole some of their images? Is this a joke? Are we supposed to care what some new, regional fansite who is WRONG thinks? Whoever is complaining needs to do just a little bit of research about JD and how SW news collecting sites works. That, and perhaps direct communication via e-mail to us instead of posting fanboy slander in their own forum.

I can assure you, our reputation is most certainly not on the line with this one.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 5, 2009, 09:53 PM
No, it isn't easy to enlarge images and maintain the quality of the image.

Really, this website is questioning that JediDefender stole some of their images? Is this a joke? Are we supposed to care what some new, regional fansite who is WRONG thinks? Whoever is complaining needs to do just a little bit of research about JD and how SW news collecting sites works. That, and perhaps direct communication via e-mail to us instead of posting fanboy slander in their own forum.

I can assure you, our reputation is most certainly not on the line with this one.

That's actually rather easy with these ones Chris...  I just did it from one of the Coreplanets pics, which was simple (http://chewie34.250free.com/120509droid.jpg). 

Regardless though, if you don't care what other collectors think, that's fine and some may perceive that as to how you feel about the Star Wars community outside of JD.  CP isn't new though, they've been around for quite a while.  They had a server change a little while back which required new registrations, but they're anything but new.  It's a great community over there.

And when you were running things Chris, some JD members used to slander other sites publicly here quite a bit and you were one of the loudest ones for a time.  So your comment is a bit odd.  I don't see that sort of thing going on anymore though, so obviously that's better for everyone.  In regards to the originator of those pics, he hasn't said anything bad about JD to my knowledge.  He was just appreciative to the sites that did credit the original posting.  If JD had done something of the sort, nobody would have felt slighted.  Mistakes happen of course, but those are corrected when they are indeed mistakes.

Really though in the case of all these prototype images, I hope you realize that to some people it looks negligible.  Whether that was the intent or not is only known to you guys, so I'll take your word and if anyone else asks me about it, I'll simply direct them to this thread and they can make their own decision.

My point has been made.   ;)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2009, 02:34 AM
First, I figured you knew me long enough CHEWIE that you considered me honest.  This is my story, so since you seem to be the one questioning things, you're questioning myself and my integrity publicly, as I see it.  I don't care for that, and if you wish to talk petty, I feel that makes you look at least equally petty to be honest.  I never really question you publicly on anything...  I considered you someone I'd respect publicly if you posted something and I wouldn't question it, but I see I don't get equal treatment.  I'm disappointed to say the least.

Next, these images are NOT easy to enlarge without noticeable loss of detail...  I see clear differences between your image of BGJ38 and my original picture, which I assume you have some experience and see the differneces...  And I'm not even adept at Photoshop.  Maybe you respect Rob and Brad's opinions enough to believe them though?  If you do, feel free to ask ROb and Brad how completely inept I am at Photoshop and how I've asked questions from them just on how to watermark stuff.  ;D  If you think I know how to steal an enlarge images, well you're way off the mark, trust me, haha.    It also doesn't make sense that anyone's even arguing that point though, considering I have a few images in there not posted elsewhere (IE: The open cockpit on the Snowspeeder which was a personal request).

I'm disappointed I'm having to defend myself to you CHEWIE.  I guess I really expected different, I don't know.  I find that just disappointing is all I can say I guess.  I don't jump on your ass when I have posted things you've picked up on and posted at a later time or date on Yakface, have I?  Likewise I just gave credit to Jayson for his scoop on the new CW packaging the other day.  That was a great story I thought.

Lastly though I'd like to address the site that originally posted the images of the protos...  I don't know them as I don't know many collectors out in that area, but I hold no anymosity towards them either.  I'm sure they're all nice guys.  I didn't steal their images as you've made sure to imply (Probably one of the most disappointing things I had the joy of reading on an otherwise decent day), I was given these by a source is all, like I noted.  One I have known in the past for images like the Target TIE Fighter and more.  I don't know anyone at Coreplanets and meant no disrespect to them, but the fact is I had some of the same images (only larger) and a couple that weren't posted anywhere as well, so I ran our own story on the matter.  

If someone there feels wronged by me though, my apologies to them, but lots of sites wind up using images others have access to as well...  I think simply looking at the story in any capacity would've proven that I hadn't done that, but again my apologies to anyone who was offended, that wasn't the intent.  It also wasn't exactly posted at a news site either though, so I also felt no real need to credit someone for images I had myself, and which are different, and which I figured would be interesting separately due to their size and the additional pictures.

Like I said, a lot of this issue really disappointed me because I get along with pretty much everyone on staff at other sites that I can think of.  I've had some snide things said about me by others I used to consider friends here and there, but largely it's never been an issue with me.  I don't have enemies, or at least I didn't think I did, and so now I'm a little wiser I guess.

EDIT:  I'll also add that anyone who's fuming to you in private over Jedi Defender is free to email Paul or other site administration on the matter.  Currently Paul's kicking up his feet on vacation I believe, but I'm sure he's interested in what people have to say rather than them remaining silently angry.  Maybe everyone considers me a heartless bastard, but at least Paul's a nice guy and this is his site.

My apologies for spelling mistakes above, I'm typing from a less than comfortable terminal right now as I'm not home at the moment.  I think I'm missing more mistakes than I'm seeing too.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Ryan on December 6, 2009, 03:05 AM
That's actually rather easy with these ones Chris...  I just did it from one of the Coreplanets pics, which was simple (http://chewie34.250free.com/120509droid.jpg).  

Really Justin? C'mon man don't use that as an example. Our version and their version were close to the same size so of course it is easy. Even with your edit you can still see some pixelation. You picked the smallest picture where the difference is hardly noticeable. Try using a better picture. (and let's even pretend for a second that we don't have any of those extra photos.) Take the A-Wing for example.

Here is CP's version:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/bear78/IMG_0446a.jpg

Here is our high-res version (which is close to three times the size of the CP version):

http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/1-08/10Hasbro_AWingProto1Loose_Full.jpg

And lastly here is the enlarged CP version:

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19222.0;attach=4641;image

Notice how it looks like utter **** and nothing like our image? I can vouch for Jesse's rudimentary Photoshop skills. I mean no offense to Jesse here, but he definitely isn't capable of doing something like that. And more importantly he is not the kind of guy who would do something dishonest like that. Aside from Jesse, there is no way that one of us who know Photoshop here would have the time (especially not on a Friday night) or the desire to attempt to drastically resize and sharpen that many pictures. And even IF we did, there's no way we could get them to be that clear. We aren't out to steal credit or people's images or anything malicious like that. Jesse just happened to get his pictures right after they found theirs. That kind of thing happens all the time, both in this hobby and in the real world.

I think Jesse said it nicely already, but I'm hurt too that you'd accuse him of this Justin. You do enough work in Photoshop with all of your photo novel work that you should absolutely know how hard it is to make images bigger and retain the same clarity. And I frankly think it is borderline dishonest on your part to suggest that we did just that. Especially considering that Jesse has some images that Core Planets doesn't. It seems like you didn't even look at our story Justin, rather you just saw thumbnails and for whatever reason you assumed we stole them.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Nicklab on December 6, 2009, 08:16 AM
I'd like to chime in from a reporting standpoint.  I've reported for 2 collecting sites over the past 8+ years so I've got some background where I feel comfortable chiming in here.  The major point of consideration in this instance appears to be SOURCING.  A reporter's work is only as good as the sources they're able to tap.  And in this case it seems that there is the possibility that both Jesse and Bear78 (?) may have had a similar source, if not the exact same source.  That source may have been able to provide images of different sizes to both outlets.  All parties involved should keep that in mind.  Was there any agreement of exclusivity with this source and any news outlet?

However, given the sensitive nature of these sources it may not be possible to publicly source these images.  This is a compromise that has to be made by a reporter when it comes to weighing the value of the content (images in this case) against the risk of compromising a source.  This is also where integrity comes into play, because the agreement to respect that source's need for anonymity may be to protect the source for any of a number of reasons.  Including the need to protect someone's job.

In my opinion, the only questions that should probably be asked about this JD article compared with the Coreplanets should be from the person who reported this for CP and their source.  Or this could have been dealt with in a polite fashion by an email exchange between the Coreplanets person and Jesse.  
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Rob on December 6, 2009, 11:02 AM
Next, these images are NOT easy to enlarge without noticeable loss of detail...  I see clear differences between your image of BGJ38 and my original picture, which I assume you have some experience and see the differneces...  And I'm not even adept at Photoshop.  Maybe you respect Rob and Brad's opinions enough to believe them though?  If you do, feel free to ask ROb and Brad how completely inept I am at Photoshop and how I've asked questions from them just on how to watermark stuff.  

I could paint Justin's head onto Mini-me's body and you'd never be able to tell the difference.  What I can't do, is significantly enlarge a raster image without losing detail in proportion to the degree of enlargement - that's just how it works.

Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 6, 2009, 11:29 AM
I'm always shocked at the amount of discussion that goes on from time to time about who is sourcing from where and making sure the right people get credit.  I guess if I was working my tail off to provide pics and someone used them as their own, maybe I'd feel differently, but I don't think I'm alone in throwing a gigantic Who Cares!? 

Jayson puts in countless hours of photography and postings over at Yakface.  His pics are always getting ripped off, but I can't recal a single time where he's ever complained about it.  If anything, he gets crap from other people when they've both acquired pictures from the same source. If YOU photograph it and someone else uses it, then go ahead and gripe and I'll back you up.  But if you copied a pic from Ebay or wherever and another site does the same, don't gripe how someone didn't give YOU credit.  That's ridiculous.

And in this particular case, I'd either just ignore complaints and be done with it, or if it really means that much to you then list your source.  If you care about those who care about stuff like this, then why not just put "Source: _________" on the photos and be done with it?

Now back to the actual topic of the thread - my suggestion for the "New" JediDefender is for Jesse to get a ******* new avatar.  That bug eyed dude creeps me out every time I come here.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 6, 2009, 03:49 PM
Jesse, since you knew that CP had posted these first, I think a simple nod somewhere to CP for sharing this information with the community well before JD did would have been appropriate and easily avoided any and all confusion.  Moving forward, my suggestion is that in the future if a situation like this arises again, just give the other site their due credit for breaking the news first.  Ignore that if you want to, I guess.  I was pleasantly surprised to see even RS do that today, even though these images are all over their forums now, Curto still linked to CP.

But this here is a suggestions thread for your forum members to post things out in the open.  So let me be crystal clear here - I don't think that there was so much of a feeling that anyone stole images from CP so much as dismissing them by not giving them due credit to be the first source to reveal them.   I would not have shown any sort of image comparison if not for Chris saying it's not possible.  In certain cases it is, which is all that image was.  And like I said, I'm taking your word for this Jesse so please don't feel offended.  I was responding to Chris on that one.  And other than rooting for the Steelers, I don't consider you a bastard.   ;)

I don't think I'm alone in throwing a gigantic Who Cares!?  

Maybe that's the best approach to take.  I would guess that most collectors don't care, or even know about this discussion.  
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 6, 2009, 09:10 PM
With the large amount of SW collector sites out there now, how the hell can you tell who gets what scoop first, unless it's an exclusive to a particular site? Seems enormously petty to complain about this issue, considering it's not an exclusive set of photos.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on December 6, 2009, 09:25 PM
I'm still not home so this may be full of mistakes here again, but I wanted to clear this up real quick.

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Jesse, since you knew that CP had posted these first, I think a simple nod somewhere to CP for sharing this information with the community well before JD did would have been appropriate and easily avoided any and all confusion.  Moving forward, my suggestion is that in the future if a situation like this arises again, just give the other site their due credit for breaking the news first.  Ignore that if you want to, I guess.  I was pleasantly surprised to see even RS do that today, even though these images are all over their forums now, Curto still linked to CP.

This is exactly my point though...  CP did NOT post THESE images!  They posted their own, and I had larger ones.  I wasn't stealing their thunder...  most people had already seen the smaller images, and I was doing OUR story for OUR benefit because I had unique images that were either all larger, or were COMPLETELY new.  That's the point.

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I don't think that there was so much of a feeling that anyone stole images from CP so much as dismissing them by not giving them due credit to be the first source to reveal them.   I would not have shown any sort of image comparison if not for Chris saying it's not possible.  In certain cases it is, which is all that image was.  And like I said, I'm taking your word for this Jesse so please don't feel offended.  I was responding to Chris on that one.

No offense but I'm really believing this, at this point.  Your implications of theft of the images were pretty clear, and much like you, I got a couple messages not pleased with that issue myself.  Maybe you didn't think what you said through hard enough, but the implication was there I believe, if nothing else by your photoshopping over our images with a new watermark.  You were clearly showing how you felt CHEWIE.  Excuse me for not believing what you said above there entirely on this, but it's what I see with your post at CP.  You maybe believe me now, but I still feel I was personally attacked.  

As far as slighting Coreplanets, like I said, first and foremost they're not a news outlet so I wasn't really even considering slighting anyone as an issue.  I'm sure the guy that posted them is a nice guy and kudos to him for his pics.  Second though, I still maintain our images are OUR images from our source, which are completely unique.  Was the other guy mad I didn't link to them?  I doubt it...  I only ran our story because it was unique.  Had this been an exclusive, much like Yakface's Clone Wars packaging sneak peak, I'd be geeked so much about the SNowspeeder I would've gladly ran a story on it with credit...  It wasn't though.  I don't know what else to say on the matter.

What Coreplanets should be mad about though, are sites without their own images not linking to them, and just lifting them and saying it's their story.  Technically though, they're not watermarked either so nothing's stopping anyone from doing that...  Curto credited Coreplanets because he doesn't have the pictures, if I were to guess...  Dan's pretty good about giving credit where it's due, he always is, and when Scum releases exclusive info it's pretty much credited by everyone to them...  Same deal when Adam May posted the Big Falcon last year, and so on and so forth.  I'm not mad we're not getting credit for having larger images, different photos and such either.  Sites often upload them to their own forums (I see mods at sites do it a lot, actually), and while disappointing there's little that can be done about it besides watermarking.  I could be annoyed that we gave everyone a look inside each item in much greater detail, and other sites are studying that stuff, and not crediting us with it though, sure.

It's like this to me though...  Does Scum post their watermark on High-res Hasbro pics?  Does Galactic Hunter?  Does Yakface, etc.?  Do they not all get, generally, the same high-res images?  Should they all credit the one that posted them first?  Does this analogy make any sense?

I'll say again on the issue of enlarging, and Rob (Brad too) works in graphics and things for a living so I wholely believe him on this as an expert, you cannot enlarge without losing detail.  If you compare your enlarged BGJ38 with my large image, CHEWIE, yours lacks some detail.  If you compare yours with the smaller image from CorePlanets, yours lost some detail still.  I'm a bonafied noob at PS, and I see it.  I know you're not because of your PN's so I'm sure you see it too.


but I don't think I'm alone in throwing a gigantic Who Cares!?  

Without a doubt I can't disagree with this at all.  I've only replied because my integrity was called into question on my own forum home, and less the rest...  I'm a tad peeved at that, and I doubt that perspective changes.  Like I said, I'm viewing the online community a little differently tonight now thanks to this recent string of stuff.  

Nothing was stolen though, and if people are offended by something, they really need to contact the administration of our site first, rather than CHEWIE, and voice it to them.  I'm not the boss.  I don't feel I did some great disservice to anyone though, and if someone's upset they really have my sincerest apology, but they also don't have the images I personally received either, so I don't think they should be upset, nor did their images get posted as our news at all, and I'm disappointed some seem to have thought that on their own, or have been lead to believe that is the case.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 6, 2009, 10:26 PM
Yeah yeah yeah, but are you going to change your avatar?  Seriously, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.   :o
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 6, 2009, 10:50 PM
Jesse, I didn't photoshop over your images.  I enlarged a CP pic, and threw a fake URL there just to show Chris a point, that if someone wants to enlarge an image frpm the CP to look similar to the JD ones, they can (at least on the random one that I picked).  I certainly did not say that was what you did, I was answering a question as to how it could cross someone's mind that this was done.   

The exact quality may not be the same using any given program, but I could tweak or sharpen the pics up some if I wanted to and maybe get closer (which I really DO NOT care to do, all it will do is make you think I'm trying to call you a liar - which I'm not doing).  And yes there's a lot of detail lost in those images when enlarged, the JD ones aren't quite as crisp as the smaller ones at CP either and if I were to enlarge them the same thing would happen.  That's going to happen nearly every time images are enlarged.  It does not mean that you're being called a liar though. 


As for posts, I guess I'm not sure which post you're referring to at CP?  This one?

Quote from: CHEWIE;108859
No problem, I don't know understand why so many fan sites are afraid to link to other sites and give them the due credit they deserve.  It's pretty sad sometimes.


^ That was made over 24 hours prior to you posted the images, and was not in reference to JD.  It was in reference to a trend around the community where some sites don't link to others too often when the other site gets a nice scoop.  It just so happened that after I said that, the JD news was posted. 


Or were you referring to this post I made over there...?

Quote from: CHEWIE;109006
Just realized that Rebelscum posted on their main page and linked here just as they should - congrats Bear!

That was in reference to CP sending Curto the pics three days ago via email.  I think Curto did the right thing when he linked to CP today.  He could have linked to his own forums if he wanted to because the pics are all over the RS forums now.


Anyways, if there's more pics that they get, they've already said they're going to watermark them so there can't be any sort of confusion like this again as this has been unfortunate.  And I know that you think I was a complete dick by bringing this up because I am the one who escalated this here, and the JD staff would probably get some enjoyment out of a solid punch to my temple about now.  But, I mentioned this whole thing because I still am a fan of JD and thought this was worth bringing up since you do have a suggestions section. 

But look at the bright side, since I brought it up, it opened up the perfect opportunity to clear up any questions and shoot the messenger at the same time.  :)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Chris on December 6, 2009, 11:07 PM
Your explanations about image size and quality are bull****. Even those who have minimal Photoshop skills (like Jesse and myself) know that when you enlarge from a smaller image, quality is NOT maintained. You have been debunked by professionals and casual users. Your example picture looks like ****, just as everyone has said all along.

All of your long winded replies have been nothing but the typical CHEWIE cop-out. Man up and admit you are wrong about the image quality discussion, and that you opened your mouth about our pictures which were not copied but actually larger and higher res. Jesse had the source on the phone to request poses for Christ sake! Keep in mind all of this while remembering that nowhere did Jesse claim to post the first pictures.

Don't worry though everyone, CHEWIE obviously knows more about this situation than those actually involved, and he also knows more about SW collecting site etiquette and news in general than those who have posted thoughts here derived from their many years of experience.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 7, 2009, 12:30 AM
GUYS.  We have a much bigger problem to worry about.  Lookit Jesse's ******* avatar for Heaven's sake - that needs to go.  And now Carpet is using it too....AAAAgh!  Can someone please ban that picture? 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Jesse James on December 7, 2009, 12:45 AM
You don't want to see the next one. :)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 7, 2009, 12:51 AM
You don't want to see the next one. :)

Great, now Rob is copying you too.  Switch to the next one -nothing could be worse than that picture Jesse.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2009, 01:02 AM
Your explanations about image size and quality are bull****. Even those who have minimal Photoshop skills (like Jesse and myself) know that when you enlarge from a smaller image, quality is NOT maintained. You have been debunked by professionals and casual users. Your example picture looks like ****, just as everyone has said all along.

All of your long winded replies have been nothing but the typical CHEWIE cop-out. Man up and admit you are wrong about the image quality discussion, and that you opened your mouth about our pictures which were not copied but actually larger and higher res. Jesse had the source on the phone to request poses for Christ sake! Keep in mind all of this while remembering that nowhere did Jesse claim to post the first pictures.

Don't worry though everyone, CHEWIE obviously knows more about this situation than those actually involved, and he also knows more about SW collecting site etiquette and news in general than those who have posted thoughts here derived from their many years of experience.

Such eloquence on display here tonight.  :)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 07:17 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about - you can photoshop ANY picture bigger and get the same quality, every time. Here, look:

(http://www.megatoothpastemammals.com/bigJJeyes.jpg)

Looks the same to me.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 07:20 AM
Yeah yeah yeah, but are you going to change your avatar?  Seriously, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.   :o

Yeah, JJ, why don't you go back to that cute little Rebel Soldier pic you used to use? He was so darling.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2009, 10:36 AM
I don't know what you guys are talking about - you can photoshop ANY picture bigger and get the same quality, every time. Here, look:

(http://www.megatoothpastemammals.com/bigJJeyes.jpg)

Looks the same to me.


No glowing eyes?

Amateur. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2009, 10:47 AM
I don't think I'm alone in throwing a gigantic Who Cares!?  

Maybe that's the best approach to take.  I would guess that most collectors don't care, or even know about this discussion.  

Most collector's don't care, because there's no scandal here.  A very small number do... and by small number, I mean one plus the imaginary person or persons who complained to you, but never bothered to check with Jesse.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 7, 2009, 11:13 AM
Yeah yeah yeah, but are you going to change your avatar?  Seriously, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.   :o

Yeah, JJ, why don't you go back to that cute little Rebel Soldier pic you used to use? He was so darling.

Rebel Soldier?  Hmmn...I don't even remember that.  I thought I had a clone trooper prior to this one.  Do I have a stalker?  Better watch out for flying pizza Carpet.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2009, 11:31 AM
I agree, there's no scandal Rob.  Perhaps you can also see this from a different point of view than that of a JD staffer though?

A small forum posted some images of potential 2010 product that nobody else had access to (or so it seemed). I'm a very active member of that forum and saw there was some irritation there, and also received personal messages about it as well.  So I decided that I would take the hit and bring it up here.

I think maybe looking at it this way will help hammer the point I was trying to make:

Question - What do these sites all have in common in regards to 2010 prototype images?

- Banthaskull
- Jedinews
- Jeditemplearchives
- Rebelscum
- Sandtroopers
- Yakface


Answer - They all chose to report the news and linked to the small forum that revealed them first.  

Jedidefender did not, and ran a story with their watermark on the images.  To some people that looked fishy (and not everyone is going to realize that JD had some of their own images that were not shared elsewhere).  I brought up what I knew about this here and was honest in why there was a perception that something looked odd.  At that point, Jesse made his case and I took him for his word.  I still think a courtesy nod to CP would have been nice, but that's just a personal opinion. 

You guys can smear me all you want.  It doesn't matter to me.  What I did was bring something to your attention that you didn't want to hear, and explained how this sort of thing can be perceived from a different view than your own.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Rob on December 7, 2009, 11:49 AM
I don't pretend to know what exactly happened beyond the posts in this thread, but did those other sites receive larger images directly from sources of their own and still choose to give credit to that other site?

I agree, there's no scandal Rob.  Perhaps you can also see this from a different point of view than that of a JD staffer though?

A small forum posted some images of potential 2010 product that nobody else had access to (or so it seemed). I'm a very active member of that forum and saw there was some irritation there, and also received personal messages about it as well.  So I decided that I would take the hit and bring it up here.

Instead of investigating a little bit, or demonstrating any measure of tact, you jumped to conclusions and called someone out in public.  The "or so it seemed" part of your post here is important, because from the biased point of view of a JD staffer and a non-father, it seems to me that you're more interested in justifying your initial assumption that Jesse stole the images and magically scaled them up in a fully impossible manner, than just apologizing and letting it go.  Meanwhile Jesse, who didn't do anything wrong, immediately apologized to anyone who might have been offended by the whole thing - like an adult would do.

Sometimes I really hate the internet. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/facepalm.gif)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2009, 12:12 PM
I don't pretend to know what exactly happened beyond the posts in this thread, but did those other sites receive larger images directly from sources of their own and still choose to give credit to that other site?

Not that I know of.  Again, what I was trying to do is explain how this could be viewed outside of the JD world.


I agree, there's no scandal Rob. Perhaps you can also see this from a different point of view than that of a JD staffer though?

A small forum posted some images of potential 2010 product that nobody else had access to (or so it seemed). I'm a very active member of that forum and saw there was some irritation there, and also received personal messages about it as well.  So I decided that I would take the hit and bring it up here.

Instead of investigating a little bit, or demonstrating any measure of tact, you jumped to conclusions and called someone out in public.  The "or so it seemed" part of your post here is important, because from the biased point of view of a JD staffer and a non-father, it seems to me that you're more interested in justifying your initial assumption that Jesse stole the images and magically scaled them up in a fully impossible manner, than just apologizing and letting it go.  Meanwhile Jesse, who doesn't owe anyone an apology, did apologize to anyone who might have been offended by the whole thing - like an adult would do.

Sometimes I really hate the internet. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/nextseason/Fun%20With%20Message%20Boards/facepalm.gif)

The conclusion that I made was that CP didn't get any sort of nod here.  That's really the only conclusion that I had made.  The rest, I was curious about hence I brought it up.  If I had jumped to a further conclusion, I could have been a lot more direct than what you are claiming.  I didn't do that though because I didn't feel that was fair without knowing more information.  I wanted to give you guys a chance to explain, which is why I bumped my old post about crediting news stories.  Once I bumped it, I felt I owed you guys every reason as to why I brought this up.  And I have been nothing but honest with you in this thread.  

I do apologize to Jesse for not explaining myself better, but not for jumping to a conclusion that I didn't actually jump to.  

So, thanks for the thorough explanation Jesse, and for this suggestions section too.  But I guess my entire point about supporting other community sites has been missed, the fact that the clarity of the photos became the focal point of this discussion only derailed the entire point I was trying to make.  Supporting the rest of the community is what this was all about, not accusing JD of stealing images.  Sigh.   :(
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: CHEWIE on December 7, 2009, 12:13 PM
And BTW, the avatar thing is starting to freak me out.  For a brief moment I don't know who I'm reading a post from... Jesse, Rob or Ryan.   :P
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 12:51 PM
Rebel Soldier?  Hmmn...I don't even remember that.  I thought I had a clone trooper prior to this one.  Do I have a stalker?  Better watch out for flying pizza Carpet.

JJ = Jesse James, darling.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 12:52 PM
No glowing eyes?

Amateur. 

I'm certainly capable, but I was just trying to back you up, man.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 7, 2009, 03:26 PM
Rebel Soldier?  Hmmn...I don't even remember that.  I thought I had a clone trooper prior to this one.  Do I have a stalker?  Better watch out for flying pizza Carpet.

JJ = Jesse James, darling.

As usual, your attention to detail comes shining through.

 Jedi Jman.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 05:17 PM
And as usual, your reading comprehension is dreadfully lacking, as yes, I'm aware of your screen name here having two letter J's, but when I wrote:

Quote from: Carpeteria3000
Yeah, JJ, why don't you go back to that cute little Rebel Soldier pic you used to use? He was so darling.

I was writing directly to Jesse James in reference to your suggesting that he change his avatar. I was suggesting he change back to his previous avatar, the darling little Rebel Soldier pic he used to much fame and attention. I can't imagine why I would suggest that you would change your own avatar when the subject was on Jesse's. Nothing more - it's as simple as that, sir.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 7, 2009, 05:33 PM
Okay, here's your full post:

Yeah yeah yeah, but are you going to change your avatar?  Seriously, I'm going to have nightmares tonight.   :o

Yeah, JJ, why don't you go back to that cute little Rebel Soldier pic you used to use? He was so darling.

Seeing as how you quoted me and then referenced JJ, it's pretty unclear which of us you're referencing.  But of course, you're never wrong in your little imaginary carpet world. 
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 7, 2009, 05:52 PM
The issue was Jesse changing his avatar. Not you. Why would you changing your own avatar save you from the "nightmares" induced by Jesse's avatar? That makes no sense. And as you so eloquently pointed out, you never had a Rebel Soldier avatar, so one would likely make the leap to judgment that I wasn't addressing you, but hey, I guess it's really unclear.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JesseVader08 on December 7, 2009, 11:40 PM
Since this has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand, shall we just drop it?  Save this BS for where it belongs.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: JediJman on December 8, 2009, 01:20 AM
I was just trying to redirect the conversation about picture sourcing in a lighthearted way.  Sorry for the confusion Carpet.
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: DSJ™ on December 8, 2009, 01:55 AM
(http://jessewarden.com/archives/facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: The New JediDefender - Have Any Suggestions?
Post by: Carpeteria3000 on December 8, 2009, 07:37 AM
I was just trying to redirect the conversation about picture sourcing in a lighthearted way.  Sorry for the confusion Carpet.

I'm all set. No worries.