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Title: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on June 23, 2010, 04:32 PM
NBA Draft Tomorrow Night...you can also talk about the 2009-2010 NBA season here since there wasn't a thread.

I'm prepping for the Scott E Roth Cup For Excellence in Mock NBA Drafting
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 23, 2010, 07:43 PM
So ... where does everyone think LeBron is going to end up?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on June 25, 2010, 02:08 PM
So...the draft.  Nothing too excited really, at least to me.  Lots of trades of rights to guys that probably won't be anything too huge.  With all the draft build up, just looking at the picks in the first rounds from the past years - and really, only a handful from each year (maybe only 2-3) really amount to true "stars" in the NBA.  The rest either fizzle out quickly, or in some cases become nice role players.  From last night, there's a few that might do well in the NBA - but overall it seemed like sort of a boring class to me.

The draft night really was all about LeBron it seems.  The Heat and Bulls both made trades to get huge under the cap, with enough room to sign two big names this offseason.  As far as the James sweepstakes goes, it sounds like a number of people are thinking Chicago.  I think Cleveland is still a possibility, but I wouldn't feel real confident if I was them either.  A Miami team-up with D. Wade could happen too, and would be very interesting to see since they could sign another max FA (like Bosh or Stoudemire) as well.  Crazy.  I do get the feeling that LBJ is going to draw this whole thing out and be wined and dined by all the different suitors, and stay in the headlines all summer long.  It seems like he really wants to enjoy all of this.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 25, 2010, 02:49 PM
The draft night really was all about LeBron it seems.  The Heat and Bulls both made trades to get huge under the cap, with enough room to sign two big names this offseason.  As far as the James sweepstakes goes, it sounds like a number of people are thinking Chicago. 

That's what was exciting about the whole draft to me... It looks like Bosh and James are going the same place, the question is where will that be.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on June 25, 2010, 09:23 PM
The draft night really was all about LeBron it seems.  The Heat and Bulls both made trades to get huge under the cap, with enough room to sign two big names this offseason.  As far as the James sweepstakes goes, it sounds like a number of people are thinking Chicago. 

That's what was exciting about the whole draft to me... It looks like Bosh and James are going the same place, the question is where will that be.



Miami.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 26, 2010, 01:40 AM
Chicago please.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 26, 2010, 08:06 AM
No, Miami would be just fine.  South Beach ... get to play with D-Wade ... no state income tax ... Pat Riley running the team.
It's a perfect set-up for multiple championships.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 26, 2010, 08:25 AM
So ... where does everyone think LeBron is going to end up?

Madison Square Garden.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Sprry75 on June 26, 2010, 05:02 PM
He's sure as hell not coming to Utah, because he's not a skinny white guy.

(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/000/978/929/102389393_crop_340x234.jpg?1277490220)

****.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 27, 2010, 08:21 PM
So ... where does everyone think LeBron is going to end up?

Madison Square Garden.

Well, sure ... if he doesn't care about winning titles.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 28, 2010, 10:09 AM
So ... where does everyone think LeBron is going to end up?

Madison Square Garden.

Well, sure ... if he doesn't care about winning titles.

I disagree.  If King James and Bosh or King James and Wade sign with the Knicks, I predict title in 3 years.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 28, 2010, 10:16 AM
I disagree.  If King James and Bosh or King James and Wade sign with the Knicks, I predict title in 3 years.

It's all academic. 
Report: LeBron to Chicago 'a Done Deal' (http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/06/27/report-lebron-to-chicago-a-done-deal/)   ;)

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LeBron James has decided against going on a free agency tour of the five cities that have made his short list of places (along with Cleveland) where he'd like to play next season, and will instead hold those meetings at home. The reason for this change of plans could be due to the backlash from fans and media alike over the idea, or it could be that James simply would like to hold court in his own castle, and be treated like the NBA royalty that he has become.

Or, it could be something else entirely. Like the possibility that James may have already made his decision.

Jonathan Abrams of The New York Times is reporting that these meetings, which will begin on July 1, may be nothing more than a formality, since he has spoken to one anonymous NBA executive who believes that LeBron is heading to Chicago, along with another of the prized free agents of this summer, Toronto's Chris Bosh.

"I think it's a done deal," the executive told Abrams.



Share  In other free agent news, the Knicks, who have gutted their roster in recent years in hopes of luring LeBron to NYC, aren't putting all of their eggs in King James' basket.

League sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard that the Knicks' first meeting at midnight Eastern on July 1st won't be with James, and won't even be in New York: it will be with Atlanta's Joe Johnson, and it will take place in Los Angeles, where Johnson is planning to hold all of his meetings.

The Knicks are also hoping to meet with Amar'e Stoudemire while in Los Angeles, before heading to Ohio on Thursday to meet with James at 1 p.m. ET. New York is obviously hoping to land LeBron, but reuniting Joe Johnson and Stoudemire with their former coach from their days in Phoenix, Mike D'Antoni, might be more than enough to console Knicks fans clamoring for the league's biggest star to play in their city.

What's interesting is that neither of these recent reports mentions the player who is right behind LeBron at the top of the 2010 free agent class, and that of course is Miami's Dwyane Wade. As much as James will be the lead domino in determining where exactly the rest of the superstar free agents end up, Wade's decision will have almost as much of an impact.

Just think: Of all the scenarios that have been talked about, the one that's rarely mentioned is the prospect of Wade and James teaming up to go somewhere together. And for the rest of the league, that one may be the most frightening of them all.

UPDATE: Chris Bosh's agent, Henry Thomas, has denied the report, according to NBA.com's Art Garcia. "Completely untrue," Bosh's agent Henry Thomas told NBA.com via e-mail. "He hasn't decided anything."
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 28, 2010, 11:53 AM
Lebron will stay in Cleveland. 

Why would he want to live in the shadow of MJ?  In Cleveland, there's no pressure but to get just ONE ring. 

In Chicago, he'd have to win six to not be considered a failure.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 28, 2010, 11:56 AM
Lebron will stay in Cleveland. 

Why would he want to live in the shadow of MJ?  In Cleveland, there's no pressure but to get just ONE ring. 

In Chicago, he'd have to win six to not be considered a failure.

Nonsense.

Additionally, if you gave someone a chance to live and work in Cleveland, or Chicago... I think most people would consider it an easy decision.

Lebron is as good as gone.  I think that the only question is whether he likes NYC, Chicago, or Miami best.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 28, 2010, 12:56 PM
Please.

You're biased because you live there now.  He has deep ties to Cleveland - he's played ball there his whole life and its home to him. 

He wants to bring Cleveland their first NBA championship; plain and simple.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 28, 2010, 02:02 PM
True... didn't consider that he's from there... it's a ****-hole though, biased or not, I'll stick by that one.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 29, 2010, 09:54 AM
A few sources in this article say that Miami is now the front-runner.  PLEASE let this be true!

Sources: James, Bosh, Wade meet, talk futures (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5338472)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2010, 10:41 AM
Although the "front runner" seems to change every day, that would be crazy to see something like that happen.  Three super-stars, all in the prime of their careers, joining the same team at the same time.  Sure, we've seen "all-star"-ish lineups before (Boston's Big Three, The Lakers with Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton/etc.), but I don't know that we've seen guys who were/are really all in their prime together like that.  Could be very interesting.  I don't know why, but I've never really liked the Knicks that much (probably stemming from the John Starks/Charles Oakley days vs. the Bulls)...so in a way it would be kind of funny to see them trade away and prepare for this big free agent class only to come away empty.  I do think they have a good chance to luring Joe Johnson and Amare there, which would really help them out.  Its going to be a fun offseason.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 2, 2010, 08:34 AM
I heard this stat yesterday.

Of the 64 NBA Championships: The Lakers or Celtics have won 33.

Of the past 31, 27 have been won by one of five teams: Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs, or Pistons.

Why even follow a team if they aren't one of those teams? They have no chance.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 3, 2010, 01:13 AM
The latest rumor has Wade seriously considering Chicago.

If he does that, it'd be a no-brainer for Lebron to do the same...

Oh man that'd be awesome.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/1152/wade-and-lebron-can-it-happen

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 3, 2010, 09:12 AM
Yeah, I was kind of surprised as I figured (at least at the beginning of the week) that Wade was probably a lock for Miami.  But now, it is starting to look like the Bulls could field the best team (supporting cast) so I can see why they would go for Chicago.  I'm starting to wonder if Miami might be left out in the cold in all of this, because I can't see LBJ (or Bosh) going there if Wade is gone - I think that sort of defeats the purpose of all the Miami talk anyways.  The thing is, Bosh is so tied to either one or the other (more recently Wade), and I don't think the Bulls can get all three (unless a sign and trade scenario was worked out possibly).  With a lot of other players likely staying with their teams (Rudy Gay, Paul Pierce, possibly Joe Johnson, possibly Ray Allen), the pool is thinning quickly.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 3, 2010, 01:52 PM
No love for Amare to be found anywhere?  He's gone from Phoenix, that much is now pretty well sealed even though you could go back to February and say that.  Looking like he might end up in New York.  Kind of surprised he didn't end up in some of the talks.  I'm not sure I'd take Bosh over Amare.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 3, 2010, 02:51 PM
No love for Amare to be found anywhere?  He's gone from Phoenix, that much is now pretty well sealed even though you could go back to February and say that.  Looking like he might end up in New York.  Kind of surprised he didn't end up in some of the talks.  I'm not sure I'd take Bosh over Amare.

I sort of feel the same way.  We were talking about it this week at work, and I think I'd rather have Amare if I was choosing a PF.  Both are talented, and there may sometimes be a question with Stoudemire's motivation, but when he plays hard he's one of the best in the league.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 4, 2010, 10:19 PM
The latest rumor has Wade seriously considering Chicago.

If he does that, it'd be a no-brainer for Lebron to do the same...

Oh man that'd be awesome.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bulls/post/_/id/1152/wade-and-lebron-can-it-happen



I spent most of my life rooting for the Bulls.  I would have no problem doing it again.


As for the Amare vs. Bosh discussion, I'd take Bosh in a heartbeat.  He's younger and rebounds better.  I question Amare's drive on certain occasions.  I've never had that issue with Bosh.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 4, 2010, 11:07 PM
The age isn't a major thing... only a year apart IIRC.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 6, 2010, 04:14 PM
Stoudemire to the Knicks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ajds1WrxGjNv9GXSP2SouS.8vLYF?slug=ys-stoudemireknicks070510).  One down. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 7, 2010, 08:11 AM
It looks like LeBron will reveal his decision tomorrow night during a one-hour ESPN primetime special:

Sources: LeBron decision Thursday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5359255)

Really?  I mean ..... REALLY!?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2010, 09:03 AM
Wade and Bosh to the Heat.

James with 'em?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2010, 09:07 AM
It looks like LeBron will reveal his decision tomorrow night during a one-hour ESPN primetime special:

Sources: LeBron decision Thursday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5359255)

Really?  I mean ..... REALLY!?

He's gonna announce his decision tomorrow and it hasn't leaked yet?

That's amazing in and of itself.

Still not as amazing as the narcissism involved in having a 1 hour special to announce your stupid decision.  Win a ring jackass, and then maybe I'll watch.  He hasn't done anything but lose in the postseason, excuse me if I pass on the whole dog and pony show.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2010, 09:15 AM
Stoudemire to the Knicks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Ajds1WrxGjNv9GXSP2SouS.8vLYF?slug=ys-stoudemireknicks070510).  One down. 

If James joins him, then the Knicks cleaned up.

If he doesn't, then the offseason that Knicks fans have been waiting for, for 3 years, was a total failure.  We were expecting a little more than a 20 PPG 10 REB player for $20 million a year with a history of major knee and eye trouble.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 7, 2010, 11:41 AM
It looks like LeBron will reveal his decision tomorrow night during a one-hour ESPN primetime special:

Sources: LeBron decision Thursday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5359255)

Really?  I mean ..... REALLY!?

He's gonna announce his decision tomorrow and it hasn't leaked yet?

That's amazing in and of itself.

Still not as amazing as the narcissism involved in having a 1 hour special to announce your stupid decision.  Win a ring jackass, and then maybe I'll watch.  He hasn't done anything but lose in the postseason, excuse me if I pass on the whole dog and pony show.

I'm with you here.

So much hype for a player (who calls himself the king), when in reality, what has he done besides win 2 MVP's?

I know what Kobe did - he won his fifth ring this year with a broken finger. . .on his shooting hand.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2010, 12:31 PM
He's gonna announce his decision tomorrow and it hasn't leaked yet?

That's amazing in and of itself.


It wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't made the decision yet.  The Miami stuff probably has him weighing that as an outside possibility, although I think he'd be better off in Cleveland or Chicago given that Miami would be out of money and still needing a lot of players.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2010, 02:21 PM
He's gonna announce his decision tomorrow and it hasn't leaked yet?

That's amazing in and of itself.


It wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't made the decision yet.  The Miami stuff probably has him weighing that as an outside possibility, although I think he'd be better off in Cleveland or Chicago given that Miami would be out of money and still needing a lot of players.

LeBron may be making this official tomorrow night, but I'm going to go ahead and leak this right now.

I've been looking at a lot of clues today, and I'm pretty sure I figured out....

That tomorrow night....

LeBron James....

Will be announcing....

That he will be playing for...

...

...

...

...

...


(http://silentarchimedes.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/lebron-knicks1_feature.jpg)


This is my bet.  We'll see tomorrow.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2010, 03:23 PM
Not if winning is as important to him as he says it is.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 7, 2010, 05:15 PM
Boozer to Bulls (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5361792)

Kind of figured this after the Bosh to Heat announcement earlier today.  As far as LeBron goes, it is really difficult to tell.  I still feel like he may stay put in Cleveland, but as much as I like it when players stick with a team - I just don't know if they can win titles with that roster.  Sure, they've had the best record in the league the past couple years, but they've obviously had troubles in the playoffs - and I'm not sure that will change.

I think the Heat are still very much in play, and possibly the Bulls.  The Knicks may have an outside shot as well, but like it was mentioned, if he really wants to win - and win now - I don't know if the Knicks are the best choice.  Really, Chicago has a pretty strong team if he wanted to join there.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2010, 05:47 PM
The Boozer pick up is great.  If Lebron was leaning away from Chicago it should at least give him something else to think about.  Chicago was a pretty good team already.  Add Boozer and Lebron to that and you're going to be a top team.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 7, 2010, 06:33 PM
Stephen A. Smith is swearing up and down that he knows LeBron is going to Miami with Bosh and Wade.

Everyone else I heard today claims they heard from God knows where that it's New York.

The "special" tomorrow night is from Greenwich CT very close to where the Knicks train.

Jared Dudley tweeted today that he found out it was New York.

And someone in the Knicks front office leaked he was coming here.

So...
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 7, 2010, 07:19 PM
Stephen A. Smith is swearing up and down that he knows LeBron is going to Miami with Bosh and Wade.

Everyone else I heard today claims they heard from God knows where that it's New York.

The "special" tomorrow night is from Greenwich CT very close to where the Knicks train.

Jared Dudley tweeted today that he found out it was New York.

And someone in the Knicks front office leaked he was coming here.

So...

So that means he's definitely staying in Cleveland.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 7, 2010, 07:27 PM
It looks like LeBron will reveal his decision tomorrow night during a one-hour ESPN primetime special:

Sources: LeBron decision Thursday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5359255)

Really?  I mean ..... REALLY!?

He's gonna announce his decision tomorrow and it hasn't leaked yet?

That's amazing in and of itself.

Still not as amazing as the narcissism involved in having a 1 hour special to announce your stupid decision.  Win a ring jackass, and then maybe I'll watch.  He hasn't done anything but lose in the postseason, excuse me if I pass on the whole dog and pony show.

I agree completely.  Good read right here:

State of LeBron: Live at 9, from his ego (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebrondecision070710)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 7, 2010, 07:29 PM
I'd obviously love for LeBron to join Wade and Bosh in Miami, but if he goes somewhere else, I'm still happy with what the Heat have done.  Plus, without LeBron, they will still have a bunch of cap space to sign a few other quality players.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 8, 2010, 08:40 AM
Sounds like Miami:

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/lebron-james-miami-dwyane-wade-chris-bosh/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002&hpt=C2
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 10:15 AM
Yeah Miami seems like it makes the most sense.  This would be just like what the Celtics did 3 years ago with the Big 3.  Had Pierce, get Allen and KG.  Now the Heat had Wade, get Bosh and King James.

Provided they stay healthy, they're gonna win rings.

If this is true and he's not a Knick, I'd say New York between the Nets and Knicks were the HUGE loser this offseason.  We literally have nothing to root for next season, both teams will be awful.

The Knicks have been building up to this for three years, shedding Starbury and Stevie Franchise.  Tons of other bad signings.  For what?  To pay Amare Stoudemire 5 guaranteed years of $100 million?  The guy will be exiting his prime before that and already had microfracture surgery and an eye injury.  Are you serious?  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 10:17 AM
It sounds like Miami... but yesterday it sounded like New York, and the day before that it sounded like Cleveland.

It's all "anonymous sources" and "league insiders" and all of these articles add the caveat "unless he has a late change of heart."

I think ESPN and the AP are making stuff up as they go along based on rumor, and no one (possibly Lebron included) really knows what the final decision will be.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 8, 2010, 10:30 AM

I think ESPN and the AP are making stuff up as they go along based on rumor, and no one (possibly Lebron included) really knows what the final decision will be.


They did the exact same **** during the Favre drama last fall, it got to the point where local radio was unloading on ESPN sources every morning about how ludicrous the whole thing was...a large part of this is self inflicted nonsense created by ESPN
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 8, 2010, 10:31 AM
Yeah, they seem pretty sure it will be Miami at this point - but they've been sure at other points as well.  I don't think anyone knows for sure either, but we'll find out tonight.  I don't mind LeBron at all, and think he is a fantastic player, but this whole one hour special thing is a little ridiculous.  Just tell us where you're playing, that's all anyone wants to know.

Honestly, if he really cares about winning and having a "legacy", I think Chicago is probably the best place for that.  Cleveland is nice to stay home, but I don't think they have the roster to win any titles.  Miami builds a nice powerhouse with Wade/Bosh, but even if they win a bunch of titles it will always be "with Wade", and I think that's D.Wade's team.  I don't think the Knicks or Nets have the guns to make it to the finals quite yet, maybe if they keep building the team up for a few years.  Chicago has nice pieces in place, and now with Boozer as well, and a young core that could win for awhile.  And, even though Rose and others were already in place, it would be LeBron's team.  All that being said, it seems like it might be Miami.  I thought Cleveland all along, but since they aren't going to be able to add much else to that team (without a trade), I'm not quite so sure.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 10:35 AM
Yep...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5363055

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All indications are that LeBron James is leaning toward signing with the Miami Heat on Thursday night, according to several sources with knowledge of the situation.

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Barring a late change of heart, sources say James has decided to join fellow All-Stars Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to form a potential NBA powerhouse.

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Chris Paul, one of James' best friends, has urged him to stay in Cleveland and let new Cavaliers coach Byron Scott coach him, according to sources. With such strong sentiment around him to not go to Miami, it's possible James could alter his decision.

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James' family and friends are divided over his decision to play in Miami, according to sources.

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While sources close to James insist his heart is in Cleveland and remaining with the Cavaliers was his preferred choice, they say he had concerns about signing a six-year deal there and ending up "31 years old, with bad knees and no title."

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 11:45 AM
This has become interesting to me, but not in the sense that I thought even I'd expect. 

The drama is overblown and I'm starting to hate on the whole situation in general.  I'm losing respect for LeBron as we go along but I think he's giving the NBA exactly what Stern and the league want - anyone thought about baseball or football since the NBA championships ended?  Nope, all about the NBA and the free agents, mostly LeBron.  So from a marketing standpoint, kudos to them.  But from a "I'm more important than God", though it hasn't been said, the whole thing is nauseating.  Sign a contract, let the team hype it and be done with it.  Humility, however, seems out of the question these days. 

So Miami - good shot there with Wade and Bosh but I'm not sure they need LeBron to win to be honest.  They've got a good inside/outside punch as of now and honestly I'm not convinced LeBron wouldn't screw that up by thinning the possessions out too much.  The Heat need some role players and I think they're set.  Who out of Bosh/James/Wade steps out of the limelight and plays the humble role player like happened with the Celtics?  Certainly not James and how does that sit with the other two? 

Honestly, if he really cares about winning and having a "legacy", I think Chicago is probably the best place for that. 

I don't know about that Brian.  Even if he wins a bunch of titles isn't Chicago still going to be Michal Jordan's town and the Bulls utlimately always his team?  With Boozer and Rose I think there's a good shot at championships there for sure but I don't know if he overcomes Jordan's legacy. 

New York could be doable with a quasi-twin towers thing with Stoudemire.  But who else is there?  Though New York may ultimately continue to build around that if he goes there I see titles being not much easier than in Cleveland but the city would certainly fit his ego which might be a big determining factor as well. 

The biggest surprise to me is Cleveland?  Doncha think you should have maybe gone after some of these other free agents as well?  Miami already sort of had Wade but didn't sit on their laurels waiting for LeBron(or Wade or Bosh) to just m agically sign on.  Cleveland seems to be going with the family/loyalty/heart strings approach and not much else.  The Cavs lost in the semis to a bunch of old men (mostly) and clearly Clevaland needs another body or two and if you want to have a hope of competing with a Miami with Bosh/Wade shouldn't you have gone after someone too?  It looks like Cleveland either wins with LeBron staying, a moral victory but no closer to a title, so why the lack of effort with others?  I mean if LeBron leaves you're going to have a lot of cap room to sign exactly who?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 8, 2010, 11:56 AM
I don't know about that Brian.  Even if he wins a bunch of titles isn't Chicago still going to be Michal Jordan's town and the Bulls utlimately always his team?  With Boozer and Rose I think there's a good shot at championships there for sure but I don't know if he overcomes Jordan's legacy. 

That's an excellent point.  As someone who followed the Bulls religiously from about 88 until they blew the team up post '98, to me that is always going to be Jordan's town.  Heck, unless it got to a ridiculous number of championships, I think everyone would always be comparing any team to those '90s Bulls teams.  Like you said, I don't think he ever overcomes Jordan's legacy there.  I meant as far as forging his own legacy as "LeBron as a champ", the Bulls might be the best option (unless he's willing to wait for help in Cleveland/NY/NJ).  If he joins the Heat, they sure could be awesome to watch and win a lot, but I think a lot of people will maybe look at it different because he had a lot of help (and help in their prime).  Plus, like you said, who is going to take the back seat there?  No one in Boston seemed to have a problem scoring less, whether it was Garnett, Allen, or Pierce.  They were just about the wins.  I could maybe see Bosh taking that route, almost by default, but is someone like Wade or James really going to be ok with averaging 16-18 ppg?  We'll see I guess.  In a way, I think it is exciting because it could be interesting to watch a team with three guys right in the prime of their careers playing together.  Sure, we've had "Big 3" scenarios before, but often when 1-2 of the players were on the downhill side of their careers.  Heck, you could even say that about the Celtics, although they have been able to make it work.  Either way, I'll likely be watching tonight to see how it all goes down.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 11:59 AM
I don't know about that Brian.  Even if he wins a bunch of titles isn't Chicago still going to be Michal Jordan's town and the Bulls utlimately always his team?  With Boozer and Rose I think there's a good shot at championships there for sure but I don't know if he overcomes Jordan's legacy. 

I've never bought into that line of argument (not just because I want him to come to Chicago either)... Kobe's doing just fine in Kareem's town. 

The big three went to Bill Russell's team and won.

Lebron can make his own legacy in Chicago if he wants to, and if he doesn't come here because of Jordan's shadow, then he's scared and I doubt he'd want to be associated with that.  If he goes elsewhere, it has to be about the pros of some other team, it can't be because of Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 12:15 PM
I don't know about that Brian.  Even if he wins a bunch of titles isn't Chicago still going to be Michal Jordan's town and the Bulls utlimately always his team?  With Boozer and Rose I think there's a good shot at championships there for sure but I don't know if he overcomes Jordan's legacy. 

I've never bought into that line of argument (not just because I want him to come to Chicago either)... Kobe's doing just fine in Kareem's town. 

The big three went to Bill Russell's team and won.

Just my thoughts Rob really, nothing more.  But I'm not sure Kobe is a valid comparison because of the tremendous separation in years between the Kareem era and Kobe.  Even Jerry West isn't that reverent about the Kareem years. 

Same goes for the Celtics - Russell's teams were so long ago I never even saw them play.  And some character named Bird came in there in the interim with some other goofs and won once or twice so I don't think the Celtics are an adequate comparison.  There's a huge history of winning there over a very long period of time.  The same can be said of the Lakers who won titles with some guy named West, another guy named Chamberlain before those average players named Kareem and Magic did anything prior to Kobe (who might have had some help from some dude named Shaq).  Those are both legacies of winning championships that span decades and involve a number of stellar players over a great span of time.  Chicago's winning history is encompassed enitirely by the Jordan era.  I think that makes it different.  Or maybe it just makes it another chapter in what will utlimately be Chicago's long standing legacy of championships - maybe LeBron is chapter 2?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 12:26 PM
Fair enough.


Carlos Boozer doesn't think the Bulls are out of it... that Lebron told him that he's down to two teams and hasn't decided yet:

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5363820

I think this means the Knicks are out... I think it's two out of Cleveland, Miami, and Chicago.



... (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100708)

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15. What should LeBron do? Pick Chicago. That's where the rings are. The fact that he didn't say to Bosh, "Come to Chicago with me, we'll play with Rose and Noah and win six titles together" was the single most disappointing outcome of the summer. That team would have been a true juggernaut with pieces that actually complemented each other, unlike this pickup-basketball situation that's brewing in Miami. Even with Boozer there in Bosh's place -- and I think he's a great fit for them, with or without LeBron -- it could still translate to multiple titles, because Rose could have been the best second banana since Kobe in 2001.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 12:59 PM
For what it's worth I think the Boozer/Rose/LeBron pairing would actually work better than Wade/Bosh/LeBron for precisely the reason that Wade and Bosh are legitimate stars on their own.  Boozer was an all-star but never struck me as the sould of the Jazz.  Rose I guess currently is the star on the Bulls but I think adding LeBron would open the floor up for him a lot (which the addition of Boozer already should do).  The only problem with Chicago would be the lack of a true center but I'm guessing with those three in place you might be able to start a coat rack and still win.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 8, 2010, 02:22 PM
anyone thought about baseball or football since the NBA championships ended? 

Football, yes.

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  Even if he wins a bunch of titles isn't Chicago still going to be Michal Jordan's town and the Bulls utlimately always his team? 


Yep.  It's either Cleveland or Miami for James.  No way he joins Chicago.  Rob knows how I feel about this.  I'm in the camp that believes he's too scared to play in the shadow of the greatest player ever. 

Every (home game) night he has to look at the giant statue in the parking lot. 

Every.  Night. 

Six rings in the back of your mind.

(Oh, and Brent, it's Michael with an "E", don't let it happen again). . . ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 02:32 PM
Sorry about the spelling.  When the reply box gets to full of text it starts doing funky things so I can't proof-read while going along and I'm too lazy to preview it.  Mea culpa; due apologies to the Chicago faithful and Mr. Jordan. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 02:56 PM
ESPN 1050 radio is reporting it's Miami.

Apparently there's a 4 team deal in the works with the Raptors, Rockets and someone else to dump Beasley tonight, pay max money to Wade, Bosh and James.

Also there are people calling in from Miami stating there are press conferences and celebrations popping up for later.


So, I dunno.  Probably Miami I guess.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 03:05 PM
There's another report that he's reserved a bunch of rooms at the W in Miami.

So, either it's an elaborate hoax, or that's the end of it.

I hate Miami.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 03:15 PM
Ugh.  Who the hell wants to watch the Knicks or Nets this year?  We've been waiting for this offseason forever.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2010, 03:52 PM
Ugh.  Who the hell wants to watch the Knicks or Nets this year?  We've been waiting for this offseason forever.

I feel for you.  I really do.
Seeing that I've followed the Heat (Wade in particular) over the last seven years, I must say that I'm pretty psyched for the new season ... even if LeBron does choose a different team. 
I told the guys at work today that if LeBron does indeed choose Miami, expect me to be walking around with a constant erection for the next year.  Minimum.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 04:34 PM
For some odd reason I'm really hoping LeBron signs with Cleveland now.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 05:12 PM
Here's a fun one...

http://chicago.sbnation.com/2010/7/7/1557813/lebrons-tax-bills-are-going-to

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The news today about the LeBron James sweepstakes has been fast and furious. Sources all over the place are claiming that he's headed for the Knicks, or the Heat, or staying with the Cavs. The Bulls signed Carlos Boozer, though as of late they still haven't been labeled front runners. Perhaps the only person who knows where King James will be playing basketball next year is James himself.

...or maybe his accountant?

This rumor is coming out of the hard to believe, but seems to be true department. Earlier today, Eric Mansfield, a news anchor for WKYC-TV in Cleveland tweeted something rather interesting...

    FLASH: Summit Co. processed request TODAY to change address on tax bill for BJ'S home from an LLC in Cleveland to a new address in Chicago

We confirmed that the address change has taken place. To verify yourself, follow these instructions:

    http://co.summit.oh.us/

    On the lower left —→ Taxes and Appraisals

    In address line, enter “4157 Idlebrook”

    Now, on the left, click the link for the 2008 tax bill. Compare the address listed for Rachael Investments in the summary section on the 2008 bill, vis-a-vis the 2009 bill.

    You’ll see.

The relevant information is that the 2008 tax bill for the property, which is owned in the name of LeBron James and Rachael Investments LLC, was sent to an address in Ohio, c/o (care of) Kurt Schoeppler. Who is Kurt Schoeppler?

He's LBJ's financial advisor. The new c/o on the Chicago address is the CPA firm Weinberg Solheim Howell & Shain, located on LaSalle Street in downtown Chicago.

So what does this mean? It means that the property tax bills for the house that James owns in Cleveland are no longer being mailed to the Cleveland based office of his financial manager, but rather to a CPA firm in Chicago that caters to high net-worth individuals... including the first family.

Now there could be very legitimate reasons for hiring this CPA firm in Chicago, that have nothing to do with where he will play for the next several years. Perhaps James likes Chicago accountants. Perhaps the firm in question has a personal connection to his financial manager Schoeppler, or another of James' inner circle. Maybe he got a recommendation from the President himself. For all we know, someone on James' side could have picked a random name out of the yellowpages and decided to transfer James' accounting to them.

But... it still seems like an awful lot of trouble, shipping tax bills and the like, to a Chicago based CPA firm if LeBron's principal place of business is essentially going to be in NYC, Cleveland, or Miami. Even if Weinberg is an absolutely wonderful CPA firm, I would have a hard time believing there are not comparable firms, who also cater to high net-worth individuals (athletes, celebrities, etc) located in NYC or Miami.

Given all that, the conclusion I've come to is that:

This is real. LeBron James (or his financial manager) has really hired this accounting firm to do his taxes. It is not a red herring to confuse people on where he is going to play -- changing the address on ones' tax bill and expecting it to leak to the public is relatively ridiculous.

HOWEVER

It may have nothing at all to do with where he is going to be playing basketball.

So, take it for what it's worth.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 8, 2010, 05:32 PM
You know, LBJ is pretty smart - I really could see him doing all of this stuff in Miami and Chicago to throw folks off.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 05:45 PM
You know, LBJ is pretty smart - I really could see him doing all of this stuff in Miami and Chicago to throw folks off.

Agreed.  I doubt there's anything credible floating around.  Whichever team he picks, people who predicted it will claim that they knew all along, but I think it's a pile of BS.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 06:44 PM
For some odd reason I'm really hoping LeBron signs with Cleveland now.

Or maybe you're just hoping you never end up sharing a workplace with Neal?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Diddly on July 8, 2010, 07:24 PM
Watch him end up on the Globetrotters.

I honestly could care less about where LeBron goes. The Lakers are retaining next year anyway and I'm sure he'll choke in the playoffs again.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 07:48 PM
I honestly could care less about where LeBron goes.

This whole thing is more for people who live in Chicago, New York, Miami, or Cleveland.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2010, 07:57 PM
For some odd reason I'm really hoping LeBron signs with Cleveland now.

Or maybe you're just hoping you never end up sharing a workplace with Neal?

 ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2010, 07:59 PM
So ... he's changed a mailing address to Chicago, he's making the announcement near the Knicks' practice facility, and he's supposedly scheduled a party this weekend in South Beach. 
Yup ... he's staying with the Cavs.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 08:26 PM
So ... he's changed a mailing address to Chicago, he's making the announcement near the Knicks' practice facility, and he's supposedly scheduled a party this weekend in South Beach. 
Yup ... he's staying with the Cavs.

I still can't believe all of these new reports that he'll be playing opposite Kevin Durant on the Thunder.  What a turn of events!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Diddly on July 8, 2010, 08:35 PM
I honestly could care less about where LeBron goes.

This whole thing is more for people who live in Chicago, New York, Miami, or Cleveland.

If only there was a way for the hype to stay within those cities.  :P

Also apparently Tweets are coming in that the Miami Herald is canceling "welcome" pages.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 09:31 PM
Well that was anti-climactic.  All the reports today were spot on.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 8, 2010, 09:35 PM
No ****.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 8, 2010, 09:37 PM
Agreed...but cool to see.  Bosh/Wade/James is so much better than Allen/KG/Pierce that I really think they have to be the favorites for it all next year.  It will be interesting to see who else they can now put on the roster.

Not sure why the Knicks are letting Lee walk as well...he's still young and averaging 20/10 a game.  He visited the Wolves last week but with Love and Jefferson I don't see him signing here.  

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 09:43 PM
Don't forget Milicic with the Pups.  ;)

Sure will be interesting to see what the Heat can do and would agree they'd have to be preseason faves.  Had to laugh when they showed the Heat's next rosters scoring averages.  Uh guys, there's only one ball and you took three #1 scorers and put them on the same team, I seriously doubt they'll all maintain their respective scoring averages going forward. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 8, 2010, 09:48 PM
Don't forget Milicic with the Pups.  ;)

Sure will be interesting to see what the Heat can do and would agree they'd have to be preseason faves.  Had to laugh when they showed the Heat's next rosters scoring averages.  Uh guys, there's only one ball and you took three #1 scorers and put them on the same team, I seriously doubt they'll all maintain their respective scoring averages going forward. 

Didn't you hear, the Heat are going to score 150 ppg.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 09:53 PM
Ah, my bad.  I was unaware the rest of the league was planning on rolling over. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 8, 2010, 09:59 PM
Yeah Darko was their big signing...the Wolves have talked about this offseason for 2 years and they signed a washed up European center ::)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 8, 2010, 10:09 PM
I just realized a very bright point for me out of all this LeBron stuff:

The Florida Panthers will move to Winnipeg at the end of the season/in time for 2011-12 because they need to clear some professional athlete ego space out of South Florida.  Woot!

Yeah Darko was their big signing...the Wolves have talked about this offseason for 2 years and they signed a washed up European center ::)

Well I'm pretty pleased the Wolves continue to stink.  We had a blast at the Wolves/Suns game on Sydney's spring break with those $800 front row seats for $200.  I'd say it's a pretty safe bet we'll get the same or a better deal in spring of 2011.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 8, 2010, 10:18 PM


Not sure why the Knicks are letting Lee walk as well...he's still young and averaging 20/10 a game.  He visited the Wolves last week but with Love and Jefferson I don't see him signing here.  



Knicks fan here..


I saw they're actually unloading David Lee to GS for Azubuike, Anthony Randolph and Turiaf.

I like it!  Especially the Randolph part.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2010, 10:19 PM
I'm losing my mind right now!

 ;D

Yeah, I'm a fan of the team and their outlook is certainly brighter now, but I'm not one of these fans who blindly states that they are now guaranteed to win a title.  I think they have an excellent chance, but there is still a TON of work to be done with the roster.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 8, 2010, 10:21 PM
I saw they're actually unloading David Lee to GS for Azubuike, Anthony Randolph and Turiaf.

I like it!  Especially the Randolph part.

Yeah, that kid is a stud.  He just needs a chance to play which he wasn't really getting under Nellie.  That's a nice pick-up.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: GrandMoffNick on July 9, 2010, 08:40 AM
Does anybody know if Lebron James has announced what team he's going to sign with? I wasn't sure if they'll mention it anywhere.

Thought the Cavs' owner's comments were pretty unprofessional, but pretty hilarious to hear him say what he thinks.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 9, 2010, 08:41 AM
Sounds like Michael Beasley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794) is being shipped to Minnesota, to help clear more space for the Heat.  They're going to have to get someone to play with these guys though :).

You know, at first I sort of felt for Cleveland in all of this - but after what I have seen/read since his decision, I don't know that I do.  I know it is just the extreme cases, but they keep showing them burning his jerseys, etc. and now the statement released from Gilbert (owner) was just low class (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365793).  A few quotes:

"He's gotten a free pass.  People have covered up for him for too long.  Tonight people saw who he really is."

On the matchup with Boston: "He quit.  Not just in game 5, but in games 2, 4 and 6.  Watch the tape."

"LeBron has to go to a team with two other superstars already so he can win a championship.  We will win a championship before the Heat do."

And the one I found funny: "I personally guarantee that the Cleveland Cavaliers will win the NBA championship before the self-titled former 'King' does."

Now, I understand that the guy has to try to unite a depressed fanbase somewhat, but come on.  They've done nothing but sing the guy's praises and beg him to stay for the past months, years, etc. And now?  Plus, I would be shocked if the Cavs win anything, let alone before the Heat do.  Not that they are guaranteed a championship by any means, but I'd take them before Cleveland in any bet.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 9, 2010, 09:09 AM
It is too bad that he wasn't honest enough with the ownership group to say that he wasn't coming back to Cleveland and they could have at least traded him last year...which was the biggest fear that everyone here had right before KG signed his record breaking deal in 1999 and then again when extended in 2003.  There was a real possibility he was going to bolt (most people said to Chicago) but he didn't and they traded him at the right time.  Unfortunately, not for the right players :-X
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Jeff on July 9, 2010, 09:52 AM
Sounds like Michael Beasley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794) is being shipped to Minnesota, to help clear more space for the Heat

Beasley for a second round pick in '11?  Nice to have that fall into our laps... and I guess that means that Jefferson's days are really numbered now.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on July 9, 2010, 09:59 AM
Ryan posted this on facebook and I think it's a good read - here's an excerpt:

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But give King Fame this: On the night the NBA's No. 1 free agent proposed to Miami and dumped northeastern Ohio, at least the showman was smart enough to know that if he ever wanted to hoist a championship trophy, he needed a genuine leader such as Dwyane Wade to get him there.

Oh, and he can't be Magic now. Or Bird. Or Michael. Or Isiah Thomas, Tim Duncan or Bill Russell or any other NBA supernova who stuck around long enough to win championships for a town and its people.

LeBron can be Shaquille O'Neal, who left Orlando amid hard feelings to become a basketball mercenary in many more glorious pastures. He can be Kevin Garnett, who had to leave Minnesota to win it all.

As a legacy guy, he needs to know: His decision to spurn the Cavaliers for more talent and hope in Miami forbids LeBron from ever being one of those all-time greats who persevered through coaching changes, roster changes and wrenching playoff losses to lift a trophy to the rafters for the team who drafted him.

He didn't quit on Cleveland with his made-for-ESPN finale. But he did give up on the belief that the Cavaliers could surround him with the pieces he needed to stay on a championship path.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/08/AR2010070806864.html
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 9, 2010, 10:28 AM


The biggest surprise to me is Cleveland?  Doncha think you should have maybe gone after some of these other free agents as well?  ....  Cleveland seems to be going with the family/loyalty/heart strings approach and not much else.  The Cavs lost in the semis to a bunch of old men (mostly) and clearly Clevaland needs another body or two and if you want to have a hope of competing with a Miami with Bosh/Wade shouldn't you have gone after someone too?  It looks like Cleveland either wins with LeBron staying, a moral victory but no closer to a title, so why the lack of effort with others?  I mean if LeBron leaves you're going to have a lot of cap room to sign exactly who?

I'm sticking with those feelings now.  Exactly what will Cleveland do now that LeBron is gone.  They should have been chasing someone to complement him or at the very least be a stop gap now that he's gone.  It's just weird. 

Checking the free agent list (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aoa5NtNAz4IpXDlnosQkj5C8vLYF?slug=ys-nbafreeagenttracker2010) there ain't all that much out there for the Cavs to go get.  How are you going to win before the Heat with what's available out there now? 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 9, 2010, 10:35 AM
Ryan posted this on facebook and I think it's a good read - here's an excerpt:

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But give King Fame this: On the night the NBA's No. 1 free agent proposed to Miami and dumped northeastern Ohio, at least the showman was smart enough to know that if he ever wanted to hoist a championship trophy, he needed a genuine leader such as Dwyane Wade to get him there.

Oh, and he can't be Magic now. Or Bird. Or Michael. Or Isiah Thomas, Tim Duncan or Bill Russell or any other NBA supernova who stuck around long enough to win championships for a town and its people.

LeBron can be Shaquille O'Neal, who left Orlando amid hard feelings to become a basketball mercenary in many more glorious pastures. He can be Kevin Garnett, who had to leave Minnesota to win it all.

As a legacy guy, he needs to know: His decision to spurn the Cavaliers for more talent and hope in Miami forbids LeBron from ever being one of those all-time greats who persevered through coaching changes, roster changes and wrenching playoff losses to lift a trophy to the rafters for the team who drafted him.

He didn't quit on Cleveland with his made-for-ESPN finale. But he did give up on the belief that the Cavaliers could surround him with the pieces he needed to stay on a championship path.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/08/AR2010070806864.html

Great read.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2010, 10:39 AM
How are you going to win before the Heat with what's available out there now? 

Um yeah what the Cavs owner said was kneejerk, emotional, and stupid.  There's a 0% chance of the Cavs winning a championship next year, and if he thinks he can assemble a squad that can hold a candle to James and Wade, he can forget that.  I do not blame him for being really really upset. 

Now, as a Knicks fan, or if you're a fan of Chicago, we can't be happy either.  We did all get a little something though.  NY got Amare, Anthony Randolph and Azubuike.  Chicago got Boozer.  And by God, if none of us ever hear about one of Neal's erections ever again, we'll all go down as winners this offseason.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 9, 2010, 10:41 AM


The biggest surprise to me is Cleveland?  Doncha think you should have maybe gone after some of these other free agents as well?  ....  Cleveland seems to be going with the family/loyalty/heart strings approach and not much else.  The Cavs lost in the semis to a bunch of old men (mostly) and clearly Clevaland needs another body or two and if you want to have a hope of competing with a Miami with Bosh/Wade shouldn't you have gone after someone too?  It looks like Cleveland either wins with LeBron staying, a moral victory but no closer to a title, so why the lack of effort with others?  I mean if LeBron leaves you're going to have a lot of cap room to sign exactly who?

I'm sticking with those feelings now.  Exactly what will Cleveland do now that LeBron is gone.  They should have been chasing someone to complement him or at the very least be a stop gap now that he's gone.  It's just weird. 

Checking the free agent list (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aoa5NtNAz4IpXDlnosQkj5C8vLYF?slug=ys-nbafreeagenttracker2010) there ain't all that much out there for the Cavs to go get.  How are you going to win before the Heat with what's available out there now? 

And, after the tirade the owner spewed out last night, what player is really going to want to come to Cleveland and play for him.
I completely feel for the Cleveland fans and the organization, but that was totally unprofessional.  
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2010, 10:42 AM
Just a side note, anyone notice the chipmunk-like appearance of James' cheeks last night?  I think there's a chance he might be doing a cycle of steroids this offseason.

Looking at his physique, this should shock nobody.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 9, 2010, 10:47 AM
Just a side note, anyone notice the chipmunk-like appearance of James' cheeks last night?  I think there's a chance he might be doing a cycle of steroids this offseason.



I did notice ..... some time ago.  They've been like that for awhile.  We're so used to seeing him with a headband on, which makes his head (skull) appear to be wider and/or takes away from the width of his jaw. 
At the same time, steroids wouldn't surprise me at all.  And not just with LeBron.  Some of these guys are absolute monsters.  I can't believe no one has ever questioned certain players about steroids before.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on July 9, 2010, 10:50 AM
  And by God, if none of us ever hear about one of Neal's erections ever again, we'll all go down as winners this offseason.

Sorry about that.  I have to know my audience.  I won't speak of it again.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 9, 2010, 11:00 AM
I'd like to know across pro sports if marijuana is tested for and if it is do they do anything about it?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2010, 11:22 AM
I'd like to know across pro sports if marijuana is tested for and if it is do they do anything about it?

Haha.  Performance inhibiting drugs.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 9, 2010, 03:15 PM
Just a side note, anyone notice the chipmunk-like appearance of James' cheeks last night?  I think there's a chance he might be doing a cycle of steroids this offseason.

Looking at his physique, this should shock nobody.

Are you saying his wee is going to be smaller than Neal's?  :-X
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 9, 2010, 03:57 PM
Just a side note, anyone notice the chipmunk-like appearance of James' cheeks last night?  I think there's a chance he might be doing a cycle of steroids this offseason.

Looking at his physique, this should shock nobody.

Are you saying his wee is going to be smaller than Neal's?  :-X

Regardless of Neal's size or lack thereof (I know for a fact he has huge feet), I'm pretty sure steroids leaves your wee alone, but it does shrink your testicles.  Not sure if you're a science guy or not, but testosterone is made in the testes, and if you're injecting or ingesting it, your body knows and the negative feedback shrinks the testosterone-producing tissues of the testicles.  So, wee stays the same, nuts shrink.

Now for God's sake let's get back to basketball before I throw up.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 11, 2010, 09:54 PM
Jesse Jackson is making an ass of himself:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5372266
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 12, 2010, 05:52 AM
Jesse Jackson is making an ass of himself:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5372266


If anyone cared enough about Jesse, an intervention would have been staged already and he'd have gotten treatment.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 12, 2010, 11:43 AM
I see that the Suns are making a couple of trades for Turkoglu and Josh Childress, losing Barbosa and Dwayne Jones.  That team (Phoenix) is almost going to be unrecognizable, aside from Nash/Hill, from the Suns we've known over the past few years.  Over the past few years, they've lost or gotten rid of Johnson, Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion, Barbosa, Bell, and a few others.  Looks like they have a stockpile of "small" Power Forwards now though with Turkoglu, Frye, Warrick, etc.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2010, 08:23 PM
Sounds like the Heat have potentially added Udonis Haslem, Mike Miller, Juwan Howard, and Zydrunas Ilgauskus over the past week or so to go alongside their "big 3" (along with holdover Mario Chalmers).  Although some of them (Howard/Z) are older, they are building somewhat of a supporting cast around them.

Also, sounds like the Wolves sent Al Jefferson to the Jazz for a couple future 1st rounders.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 13, 2010, 10:39 PM
I read about the Wolves trade: going to build around Kevin Love???  Seriously?  No, really?  Sure, he had a 20-20 game against the Suns when we were down in the Twin Cities but without Jefferson drawing the double teams, I just don't see it.  Big, slow white guy?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Scott on July 14, 2010, 08:50 AM
No way are they building around Love, they just wanted to get rid of Al's contract.  They keep talking about building around Rubio which will be next year...that means they want to run and if you look at their roster, that is what they are.   Unfortunately...running teams only make it so far.  I like what they have done on the offseason with the exception of draft night
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Sprry75 on July 17, 2010, 07:47 AM
I didn't watch Jefferson at all except for the games he played against the Jazz, so I don't know for sure, but I think he's going to be a terrific addition here.  I'm a little worried about the ACL/knee, since injuries have a tendency to get aggravated or whatever for Jazzmen, but I think a low post player like Jefferson can really take off in Jerry Sloan's system.

And I can't tell you how happy I am that Raja Bell is coming back.  Sure, he'll be ready for Social Security by the time his three year contract is out, but still, I'll take this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V8ZukXsWmk) any day of the week.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on July 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
Chris Paul has apparently asked to be traded out of New Orleans.  Hmmm. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 22, 2010, 09:16 PM
Chris Paul has apparently asked to be traded out of New Orleans.  Hmmm. 

Well if LeBron, Wade and Bosh each want to give him 1/3rd of their salary, I know who's winning rings for the next 5 years.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on July 22, 2010, 11:09 PM
Well if LeBron, Wade and Bosh each want to give him 1/3rd of their salary, I know who's winning rings for the next 5 years.

The Lakers? 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 23, 2010, 07:58 AM
That is incorrect.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on October 26, 2010, 10:45 PM
Ah, a wonderful start to the season.  The Celtics win their opener but more importantly Miami loses.   8)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on October 26, 2010, 10:49 PM
Ah, a wonderful start to the season.  The Celtics win their opener but more importantly Miami loses.   8)

Yup.  Even being a Heat fan, I called that loss today.  Can't say that I was surprised about it.  They're not ready to beat the elite teams yet (especially on the road).  They'll take a couple of months to gel.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Diddly on October 27, 2010, 12:08 AM
I thought LeBron left Cleveland so he could quit carrying entire teams on his back?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 28, 2010, 10:08 PM
The Heat brass should suspend LeBron for 10 games minimum for bumping the coach in frustration.

LeBron needs to be put back in his place, really badly.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on November 28, 2010, 11:26 PM
The Heat brass should suspend LeBron for 10 games minimum for bumping the coach in frustration.

LeBron needs to be put back in his place, really badly.

Agreed.

And the Heat can suck it.  Every time they lose I get a little extra bounce in my step.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on November 29, 2010, 12:41 AM
The Heat brass should suspend LeBron for 10 games minimum for bumping the coach in frustration.

LeBron needs to be put back in his place, really badly.

Agreed.

And the Heat can suck it.  Every time they lose I get a little extra bounce in my step.

Then you must look like you're on a pogo stick lately.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on April 1, 2011, 11:39 AM
Busted by the paparazzi.

(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2011/04/ipt/1301666439.jpg)

Now I know why Ron Artest has not been answering my... um... fan mail.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on April 25, 2011, 02:17 PM
Man, I hope CP3 and the crew can eliminate the Lakers. . .
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 8, 2011, 11:08 PM
Man, I hope CP3 and the crew can eliminate the Lakers. . .

Mavs did it in a sweep.  Happy days.  In general I hate the Lakers but they were quite poor sports in losing today.  I get the frustration, but Bynum should get a hefty fine and at least a couple of games suspension from the league. 

Ah well, suck it Colman, no threepeat.   ;D
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 9, 2011, 12:47 PM
I don't watch much Basketball, but when I do I root for Dallas.

I was expecting a typical playoff choke job by the Mavs going up against the mighty Lakers.  So, that was really fun to watch.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: King_Maul on May 9, 2011, 02:18 PM
I thought the Lakers and Mavs were evenly matched before the series.  The Lakers didn't convert their opportunities to win games 1 and 3, and of course, the Mavs did the right things in all 4 games.

I've not seen the Lakers having to run around the court so much on their rotations, and the Mavs still got really good open looks.  The defense was awful while Dirk and the bench seemed unstoppable.  It was obvious the Mavs were the better team in this series and not the Lakers unable to play to their potential.  It was tough watching four games with nothing positive Laker-wise to come out of them.

It $uck$ Lamar and Andrew lost their cool.  I wonder if there's anything inside the locker room we're not hearing.  It was interesting to see Phil/Pau and Phil/Lamar go at it on the sidelines, and Andrew making his trust issues comments after game 3.  Losing causes strange things I guess.

It'll be interesting to see how next year works out for the purple and gold.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on May 9, 2011, 02:24 PM


Mavs did it in a sweep.  Happy days.  In general I hate the Lakers but they were quite poor sports in losing today.  I get the frustration, but Bynum should get a hefty fine and at least a couple of games suspension from the league.

Agreed.  I was so happy to see the Mavs finish them off yesterday, and in such routing fashion.  I've just never liked the Lakers either, and like Brent mentioned, they (or at least a couple) were such poor sports in the loss.  I really thought they would not only win the series (originally), but thought for sure they would win yesterday being "fired up" from the 0-3 start.  There is obviously some problems going on there.  I thought even Kobe looked pretty unspectacular - for him - in this series.  ESPN had some statistics covering his fourth quarter shooting in the playoffs this year, and it wasn't too hot.  Don't get me wrong, I still wouldn't want the ball in his hands at the end of the game against my team, but I wonder if age is starting to show a bit with Kobe (even though he's not "old" by any stretch).
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 9, 2011, 10:59 PM
Much as I despise the Lakers and hate Kobe I'll give him credit.  I found this quote today in reference to Bynum and Odum:

Said Bryant: “They played better than we did. So letting the game get ugly like that where players potentially can get hurt you don’t ever want to see that happen. We can learn from that. We regret doing that. That’s not something you want to see in the game of basketball, ever.”

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 10, 2011, 11:36 PM
I get the frustration, but Bynum should get a hefty fine and at least a couple of games suspension from the league. 

Five game suspension and all told it'll cost Bynum $700,000 for his behaviour in the last game of that series.  Ouch. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 11, 2011, 10:52 AM
Good.  That was some of the most unsportsmanlike punk-ass nonsense I've seen in awhile.
 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 12, 2011, 10:04 AM
Bummer to see the Heat win but hardly a surprise after Rondo dislocated his elbow (and for the record I don't think Wade did anything intentionally on that play).  So with the Celtics out I'm cheering for the Thunder now (or the Bulls maybe).  Great triple OT game the other night and then they came out hard last night.  If they can get by the Grizzlies I'm not sure they can upend Dallas, but I'll be hoping. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2011, 10:15 AM
Watching Lebron and the all star team screaming last night made me nauseous.  I wanted Lebron to come to Chicago but I'm glad he didn't.  Sorry Neal, but I'm just praying that someone knocks them out of the playoffs. 

I know he'll get there eventually, but deep down I want Lebron to be the Dan Marino of Basketball.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Brian on May 12, 2011, 10:53 AM
Agreed about all the excessive celebration by the Heat last night, sort of ridiculous.  Granted, I'm a Celtics fan, but I saw the writing on the wall after Rondo got hurt and wasn't so much shocked or mad that they lost last night.  The Heat seemed to be acting like they just won the championship, LeBron in particular (who was apparently crying on one knee?).  It looks like they'll have a pretty good shot at taking it all now, but he's gone further than this with the Cavs before so I'm not sure why he was so emotional at this point.  Oh well.

With the Lakers being knocked out, I was fairly happy to see anyone else win it at this point too - but I'd sort of rather not see the Heat win either (apologies to Neal and any other Heat fans).  I'm going for the Thunder at this point too, or possibly the Bulls.  It has definitely been an interesting year for the NBA playoffs with the Spurs, Lakers, and Celtics all going down early (and somewhat easily).
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 12, 2011, 11:01 AM
Assuming the Bulls come out of their series in this round, I'm absolutely cheering for them.  We got to see them in Minneapolis back in March and my daughter even got Rose's autograph on her Bulls hat.  Plus how do you not cheer for a team with a guy named Boozer. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 12, 2011, 11:19 AM
Watching Lebron and the all star team screaming last night made me nauseous.  I wanted Lebron to come to Chicago but I'm glad he didn't.  Sorry Neal, but I'm just praying that someone knocks them out of the playoffs. 

I know he'll get there eventually, but deep down I want Lebron to be the Dan Marino of Basketball.
 

Stay strong.  If Dallas can take out the Lakers, then Chicago or OKC or Dallas can take out the Heat.

I'm right there with you.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2011, 11:22 AM
I'd love to see the Mavs win it all.  If there's a basketball team I root for, that's it.  I'd love to see Dirk and Kidd get rings.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on May 12, 2011, 11:58 AM
Are they both ringless?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2011, 12:14 PM
As far as I know, yes.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on May 12, 2011, 02:05 PM
No need to apologize to me, guys.  I know all too well that absolutely no one is rooting for this team to win.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on May 12, 2011, 03:09 PM
No need to apologize to me, guys.  I know all too well that absolutely no one is rooting for this team to win.

For what it's worth it didn't bother me when Shaq and Wade did it.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2011, 03:18 PM
No need to apologize to me, guys.  I know all too well that absolutely no one is rooting for this team to win.

For what it's worth it didn't bother me when Shaq and Wade did it.

Agreed.  Outside of watching the Mavs melt down and seeing Wade go to the freethrow line every 4 seconds...

There's just something different about this little orchestrated all-star team that's pretty nauseating.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 12, 2011, 04:25 PM

There's just something different about this little orchestrated all-star team that's pretty nauseating.

Yup, as Brian described the theatrics last night were over the top.  You beat the Celtics, a very good team, but with aging superstars and their up and coming star with a dislocated elbow.  It's not like the Celtics were really going to win this year, regular season record being good or not. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 13, 2011, 08:43 AM
Meh, Miami wins that series whether Rondo is healthy or not, so I don't think that had a major impact on the ultimate outcome. They didn't lose because of their play at the point.

 
Looking forward to the Bulls/Heat matchup...Chitown pwned them in the regs season, but it's a new deal now.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on May 13, 2011, 09:13 AM


 
Looking forward to the Bulls/Heat matchup...Chitown pwned them in the regs season, but it's a new deal now.


Yes, they beat the Heat during the regular season, but then again ... so did the Celtics.  The Bulls won the three games by a total of 8 points.  In the first game, LeBron was sitting and Bosh went out in the 4th quarter, in the second game, Bosh had his infamous 1-18 performance (ugh), and the third game was the even more infamous "Crygate".  Just as a note, this is not the same Heat team.  That being said, Chicago scares the hell out of me.  They have home court advantage, a ridiculous defense, and D-Rose.  Of course I want to see the Heat win, but this is going to be a long series regardless.  I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 16, 2011, 09:08 AM
Very happy to see the Thunder roll on, that was an exciting series. I don't think Dallas wanted to play Memphis, they have some really tough matchups. OKC is more of a 2 man gang.

REALLY surprised to see the Bulls CRUSH the Heat that way. I figured all of these games would be close like the regular season, but that was just a beat down. I mean damn, are they really THAT much better than the Heat? Miami had a lot more time off to prepare for that game after all. I guess the Boston series was emotionally draining but damn, last night was embarrassing.

Hope they can get it together at least to make it competitive. Spoelstra really worries me though, that kid just seems in over his head.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: I Am Sith on May 16, 2011, 07:38 PM
These were by far the biggest highlights from last night's Bulls Heat game:

The Taj Gibson Show (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Taj-Gibson-holds-a-dunk-party-embarrasse?urn=nba-wp3246)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 18, 2011, 08:39 AM
That was quite an impressive display from Dirk last night. I haven't watched much of the Mavs this year, because it's hard to shake that feeling that they're going to fall apart inevitably, but this team could go all the way. LOT of veteran leadership and savvy.

Seemed to work out ok letting Durant go wild and focus instead on shutting down Westbrook. If they can keep that up they will be in good shape.

If the Heat lose again tonight I think they are done.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 18, 2011, 10:17 AM
That was quite an impressive display from Dirk last night. I haven't watched much of the Mavs this year, because it's hard to shake that feeling that they're going to fall apart inevitably, but this team could go all the way. LOT of veteran leadership and savvy.


12-15 from the field and 24-24 from the line.  Scored 48 points while only taking 15 shots, none of them were 3-pointers.

One of the most (if not the most) efficient performances in playoff history. 

I do hope they go all the way... even if it means beating the local team here.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 19, 2011, 09:50 AM
Ok, so last night is a lot more like what I expected to see from the Heat/Bulls series.

Who thawed out Haslem from his Cryo-Chamber before last night's game? Dude was a force!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: I Am Sith on May 19, 2011, 08:53 PM
Whoever thawed him out can go ahead and put him right back in as far as I'm concerned.  IMO he was the difference in the game, along with the Heat actually being able to get rebounds away from the Bulls.  The Bulls looked gas'd the entire game, it seemed like they couldn't get anything to fall, and they just didn't have the same intensity they had in Game 1.  I'm going to be very interested to see how it goes after Game 3 because after Sunday they go back to playing every other day.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 23, 2011, 09:58 AM
I've decided I'm actually pretty excited for a Mavs/Heat Finals. Great storylines on both sides there.

Bulls and OKC are nice stories too, but they arrived too early. They have not paid their playoff dues yet, IMO. See you guys over the next few years.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 24, 2011, 12:08 AM
Bulls and OKC are nice stories too, but they arrived too early. They have not paid their playoff dues yet, IMO. See you guys over the next few years.

Don't disagree with that statement, but who aside from Wade has actually paid their playoff dues on the Heat?  Would like to see the Thunder in the finals, but think they're still lacking a player of some sort, maybe two, on top of needing to learn to how to play in the playoffs in the later rounds.

And what's with the "blue out" in Oklahoma?  I get that the white out thing has been around for a while, but it's kind of all screwed up in sports with Phoenix Coyotes doing the white out that they inherited from us.  Of course it looks idiotic because the home teams in hockey wear dark jerseys.  (Oh and some idiots locally are talking about reviving the white out here, because it originated in Winnipeg yet they haven't figured out home teams don't wear white).  SO anyway on basketball the last two games the Thunder fans are decked out in the same color, almost exactly, as Dallas.  Weird.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on May 24, 2011, 09:25 AM
Bulls and OKC are nice stories too, but they arrived too early. They have not paid their playoff dues yet, IMO. See you guys over the next few years.

Don't disagree with that statement, but who aside from Wade has actually paid their playoff dues on the Heat?

Though he hasn't won a championship, LeBron has been to the Finals and played in quite a few playoff series in his career.  Haslem has a title.  Bibby has been in the playoffs a ton throughout his career.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 24, 2011, 09:32 AM
Right, Miami has plenty of dudes who have earned their shot, chiefly Lebron. This is not an up-and-comer type team with no previous playoff experience. OKC had never even won a playoff series before this year.

I just feel like the general path is that you slog it out for a couple of years in the playoffs before getting that title shot. Pistons did it, Bulls did it, Spurs, etc.

Even when Boston got there that first year with their Big 3 the guys themselves were pretty battle-tested. I just like to see a little seasoning rather than the "flash-in-the-pan" type teams. OKC and Chi-town are both young and have time to refine their games. They'll have other shots.

I hope Miami matches the grit Dallas displayed last night. I feel like both teams have one eye on each other now and are trying to keep pace. Should be a great Finals.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 25, 2011, 08:37 AM
Whew, Miami really escaped narrowly last night, that would have been a tough loss to overcome. Pretty exciting stuff, although I still cannot understand how the Bulls are hanging in these games. They've barely got 2 guys that can score with any consistency. Yeah, the defense is good, but so is Miami's and their offense is much, much better. I guess rebounding is a big key, but still, kind of a head scratcher.

Hoping Mavs can close it out tonight and get some rest.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 25, 2011, 10:27 AM
Yuck... looks like Dallas is our only hope now... if Wade does it to Dirk again the poor guy might hang himself.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: King_Maul on May 25, 2011, 12:13 PM
... if Wade does it to Dirk again the poor guy might hang himself.
Yeah, he just might.

This time around though, Dirk seems more dialed in and has an effective supporting cast.  From top to bottom, the Mavs are playing arguably the best team ball of the 4 remaining.  Their offense is flowing nicely, and they can go all the way.  I would be interested to see how things go for the Mavs against a team that plays tough D the entire game.  Can they keep this winning trend up?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 25, 2011, 12:25 PM
This time around though, Dirk seems more dialed in and has an effective supporting cast.  From top to bottom, the Mavs are playing arguably the best team ball of the 4 remaining.  Their offense is flowing nicely, and they can go all the way.  I would be interested to see how things go for the Mavs against a team that plays tough D the entire game.  Can they keep this winning trend up?

Yep, there's a lot at stake with a Mavs/Heat match-up.  The single-star and solid team model vs. the collude-during-the-offseason-and-build-your-own-instant-all-star-team model.  If the Heat win the title this year all these players are going to keep trying to build their own championship teams through free agency.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 26, 2011, 09:05 AM
Ok, we're halfway there! Awesome showing by the Mavs last night, Dirk was money once again. I think you have to be a little concerned about their propensity to fall behind late in this OKC series though. The thrilling come from behind heroics are exciting, but they're not likely to duplicate that success consistently against a veteran team like the Heat.

What's up with hometown hero Eric Maynor (VCU) waving off his OKC teammates at the end there? Did he forget who he was?  :D

Looking forward to a spirited match-up tonight, Bulls are going to bring it.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on May 26, 2011, 09:15 AM

Looking forward to a spirited match-up tonight, Bulls are going to bring it.

Agreed.  I don't think the Heat will close out the Bulls tonight (though I obviously hope they do).  The Madhouse is going to be crazy.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 26, 2011, 11:26 PM
Am now cheering for the Mavs.   ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: I Am Sith on May 27, 2011, 07:51 AM
Am now cheering for the Mavs.   ;)

I'll second that!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on May 27, 2011, 08:57 AM
What a wild game...I really thought the Bulls were going to get it done. For about 45 minutes they looked invincible.

Should be a great Finals, so many angles, storylines, etc. I just wish they would start throwing down this weekend!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on May 27, 2011, 10:30 AM
If the Heat win after these three guys colluded to make their own all star team, I'm officially done with Basketball. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: P-Siddy on May 27, 2011, 10:49 AM
I saw the last 3 minutes of the Bulls game... sad that the Bulls couldn't guard against the 3s. some phantom WWF penalties, too. I guess that's why I began to hate watching NBA, too subjective of calls and obvious favoritism of star players. And, Rose needed to pass the ball instead of being stuffed repeatedly.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2011, 11:17 AM
... some phantom WWF penalties, too. I guess that's why I began to hate watching NBA, too subjective of calls and obvious favoritism of star players.

I didn't catch the end of last night's game unfortunately but I'll echo the complaint about the NBA's officiating.  I said it back when the Celtics won that I thought it felt fixed and it sure seems that way these days.  It's almost ordained who will win each year.  I know that's a conspiracy theory primarily.  I just find it odd that the NBA would want the Heat to win after how that worked out.  It's great for the fans in Miami, but are there really people in other cities that approve of how that deal went down?  Other than displaced Floridians that were already Heat fans that is.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: I Am Sith on May 27, 2011, 11:35 AM
I may be a bit biased being a Chicagoan, but when you consider that the Bulls and Heat were tied (at least I thought they were) in defensive rank this season, the number of penalties that were called on the Bulls compared to the Heat was significant.  I don't see how one team could be that much more prone to penalties than the other when they were ranked almost equally going into the series.  By giving the Heat 10+ additional attempts per game, it changed the complexion of the game (points, substitutions, momentum).  I didn't think that the games were called very well at all the entire series, but it was particularly bad in the final minutes of last night's game.

And I for one am really getting tired of the overacting going on in the NBA.  Lebron drops to a knee and grabs his face as if Rose punched him, only to be revealed on the replay that Rose didn't even touch him.  What a crock.  These babies need to toughen up.  Fine, when Bosh and James were hit by Boozer on his flagrants, I agree that they should go down.  But the others?  Come on...  I think that the NBA needs to seriously consider penalties for overacting..
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on May 27, 2011, 12:03 PM
Agreed.  There was a bad one in the Dallas series too; I think it was Ibaka who made out like he'd be stabbed in the face after a Dallas player's elbow came within a foot of his face.  He fell to the floor clutching his face - it was absolutely ridiculous and I was cheering for the Thunder too. 

The refs can only call what they call (poorly, it seems, but oh well) but the league should institute a "diving" rule.  If upon review, no foul was deemed to have occurred and the player overacted they should apply a hefty fine.  So yeah, maybe you get the foul in the game but the $10,000 fine after the fact probably makes you think twice the next time. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on May 27, 2011, 04:11 PM
I still can't believe that the Heat managed to pull that one out.  Wow!
I've purchased tickets for games 1 and 2 and will be flying to Florida on Tuesday.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 1, 2011, 12:14 AM
Heatles!

Neal, how was it?

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 1, 2011, 10:05 PM
Heatles!

Neal, how was it?



It was awesome.  The Arena was going nuts, especially during the 4th quarter.  I had a great time.  Worth every penny.  Here's hoping I have a similar experience tomorrow night at game 2!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 3, 2011, 08:56 AM
What an incredible game, this Finals has been the most entertaining I can remember in some time. I don't think I even care who wins, I just want to see them keep going at it like this for 7 games.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 3, 2011, 09:49 PM
What an incredible game, this Finals has been the most entertaining I can remember in some time. I don't think I even care who wins, I just want to see them keep going at it like this for 7 games.

That game was like a punch square in the nuts ... made even worse by seeing it in person.  It's still bothering me now.  Ugh.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 4, 2011, 10:10 AM
What an incredible game, this Finals has been the most entertaining I can remember in some time. I don't think I even care who wins, I just want to see them keep going at it like this for 7 games.

That game was like a punch square in the nuts ... made even worse by seeing it in person.  It's still bothering me now.  Ugh.

Cavs and Knicks fans have been feeling this way since "The Decision" special on ESPN.

Don't worry, the Heat will probably still win their championship this year.  But I'm still rooting for Dirk to win one.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 4, 2011, 09:09 PM
But I'm still rooting for Dirk to win one.

I wouldn't mind seeing Dirk eventually get a ring ...  I just don't want him to do it against Miami.

 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 7, 2011, 09:34 AM
After Game 3, I finally realized I am pulling for the Mavs. Heat are an interesting story, but you get the feeling they'll be back here, a lot. I feel like this is probably the last gasp for Dallas.

They are going nowhere fast though, unless that bench starts showing up, not to mention the other 4 stiffs standing around out there watching Dirk.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2011, 10:05 AM
Dallas needs Dwight Howard!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 7, 2011, 12:35 PM
Dallas needs Dwight Howard!

I think just about every team does.

 ;)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2011, 12:57 PM
Dallas needs Dwight Howard!

I think just about every team does.

 ;)

Miami doesn't.   >:(
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 7, 2011, 02:37 PM
Jeopardy time:

"Through the last three 4th quarters of this Finals series (that's the final 12 minutes of each game), I have only scored nine TOTAL points."

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2011, 03:06 PM
Jason Terry?

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 7, 2011, 04:06 PM
Dallas needs Dwight Howard!

I think just about every team does.

 ;)

Miami doesn't.   >:(

Sure they do.  As much as I love Joel Anthony, center is their weakest position.

Jeopardy time:

"Through the last three 4th quarters of this Finals series (that's the final 12 minutes of each game), I have only scored nine TOTAL points."



I'm guessing that you're referring to LeBron, but like many other misguided people, you're not giving him credit for everything else that he's been doing in the four quarters.  He's creating easy offense for others and playing lock down defense.  Players that he has directly guarded in the fourth have only scored a total of FIVE POINTS.  There's much more to playing winning basketball than scoring.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2011, 04:33 PM
Sure they do.  As much as I love Joel Anthony, center is their weakest position.

Nonsense.  The Heat are currently poised to win the next 5 titles, with or without Dwight Howard.  Who's going to beat them?  They're a player-made All Star team.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 7, 2011, 05:56 PM
You're both wrong.

The correct response is "Who is Lebron James?"

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 7, 2011, 05:57 PM
That was my other guess, but i saw that Dirk was calling Terry out for his lack of 4th quarter production.

On that note, if the Mavs don't win tonight they're done.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 8, 2011, 09:04 AM
Wow, another great performance from the self-proclaimed 'king' (the heir to MJ's throne):

3-11, 8 pts, 0 blocks

Hopefully he can ride the coat tails of Bosh and Wade to a handful of rings. . .


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuTEyfelHaPjUCFy2ejB_DE5nYcB?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lebron_james_worst_playoff_game4_nba_finals_060811
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 8, 2011, 09:21 AM
Yeah ... I'm not sure what's going on with LeBron.  It would be one thing if he was missing shots, but he's actually shooting well in this series.  He's just not being aggressive offensively.  At all.  Wade is carrying this team ... again.  You could totally see it in his effort in the second half last night and his near plea for help in the 4th quarter.
I'd like to see LeBron attack in Game 5 ... but he should've done that in Game 4.  I don't know what to expect anymore.  The only positive from last night is that we only lost by three.  As badly as they played, the Heat should've been blown out.  I still like our chances, but a few things have to change.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 8, 2011, 09:24 AM
BTW, he had zero points in the 4th quarter last night so that's NINE total points for the King through four (4th) quarters, or 48 minutes of basketball when it really counts.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: P-Siddy on June 8, 2011, 11:00 AM
I think the Commish told him to hold off so he can have a spectacular Game 5 to where he outscores all of the Mavs minus Dirk.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 8, 2011, 11:55 AM
And I think he'll never be able to handle the lead role of a professional basketball team.

It's quite evident.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 8, 2011, 12:10 PM
I wonder if Scotty Pippen has any thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 8, 2011, 12:47 PM
Think i read somewhere Lebron had like 10 FT attempts through the first 3 games too, for a guy that can get to the rack like him, that is abysmal.

It's been an odd series...it's like Bosh and LBJ suddenly switched roles. One guy has redeemed himself, the other seems to be shrinking before our eyes.

Is Haywood out for the rest of the series? The Mavs need that guy. And someone organize a search party for Peja.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 8, 2011, 04:29 PM

Is Haywood out for the rest of the series?

From what I read on ESPN.com, it looks like he might be.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 9, 2011, 11:48 PM
Wow.  Knowing that everyone was questioning his heart and dedication and ability day long yesterday, Lebron turned in 2 points in the 4th quarter of game 5.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 9, 2011, 11:50 PM
LOL - that's 11 points through five quarters!!

What a schmuck - can't even step up and cover for his injured teammate.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 9, 2011, 11:57 PM
And those two points were with 30 or so seconds left when the game was pretty much decided.

He did finish with a triple double... but none of it when it mattered.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 10, 2011, 12:20 AM
Don't mess with Texas Bron Bron!!!!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 10, 2011, 09:27 AM
Three days off couldn't have come at a better time.  Wade's going to need the time to recover, seeing that if they're going to win a championship, he's going to have to carry LeBron's ***** ass to it.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
I still think the Heat win.  Although I've let a little bit of hope that they won't creep back into my equation.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Dressel Rebel on June 10, 2011, 11:13 AM
I still think the Heat win.  Although I've let a little bit of hope that they won't creep back into my equation.

I know, even with the 3-2 edge, I still think it's 50-50 odds.

The Heat are too good to mess up this bad.

Even though I'm hoping for the Mavs to win, I'm not delusional.  There's no reason why the Heat should have lost this series.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2011, 11:20 AM
Yep.  If they were headed back to Dallas up 3-2 it'd be a no brainer.  I don't like their chances in a game 7 on the road.  I think if they have any hope they have to win it on Sunday.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 10, 2011, 01:33 PM
God, I hope you guys are right.  Not feeling overly confident right now ... and I get all weekend to stew in it.  Awesome.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 10, 2011, 01:35 PM
Agreed.

L.A. came back from being down 3-2 last year.  Won the last two at home.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2011, 06:39 PM
I saw Lebron before the game and asked him to break a dollar. He only gave me $.75 in return. I asked him for the rest and he said," I don't have a fourth quarter."
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: King_Maul on June 10, 2011, 07:12 PM
I know, even with the 3-2 edge, I still think it's 50-50 odds.

Yeah, it's really where the series should be given the 2-3-2 format.  I know it's easier said than done, but the Heat just needs to hold at home to be champs.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2011, 08:18 PM
For the record, I HATE the 2-3-2 format.  2-2-1-1-1 is much better IMO.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on June 10, 2011, 08:58 PM
For the record, I HATE the 2-3-2 format.  2-2-1-1-1 is much better IMO.

Ah but the travel is so much more expensive.   ::)  At least that's the rationale they used for switching.  We can pay players tens of millions of dollars but need to find ways to reduce travel costs.  Right. 

And I'm dearly hoping Dallas can find a way to win, but expect Miami to win. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 10, 2011, 10:08 PM
And I'm dearly hoping Dallas can find a way to win, but expect Miami to win. 

So do most Dallas fans.  This team has been so good for so long and has had so many playoff melt downs... not to mention blowing the 2-0 lead to this very franchise 5 years ago.  Mavs fans have a damaged psyche.  They could be up by 20 with 2 minutes to go on Sunday and I bet most of them would still expect to lose.

This is their best shot, I think they know this, and I think they'll play their asses off in game 6.  If they don't win, I think they'll be deflated enough to lose game 7 too.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on June 12, 2011, 10:41 PM
 :D

Most pleased am I.  And it's not like Miami isn't going to win a championship with this group.  I am just damn happy they didn't pull it off this year.   8)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2011, 10:48 PM
Victory for the good guys for once.  It's been a while.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Neal on June 12, 2011, 11:04 PM
Congrats to the Mavs and their fans.  Great team there in Dallas.
Here's hoping there's no lockout.  Too much momentum in the League right now.  It would be a shame to lose it.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 12, 2011, 11:15 PM
:D

Most pleased am I.  And it's not like Miami isn't going to win a championship with this group.  I am just damn happy they didn't pull it off this year.   8)

Couldn't agree more.  Miami is too good... too many players will want to go there.  They'll have depth before too long and will probably start winning championships.

But if they had to go through the only team that I ever even mildly cared about, in their first go around, after what happened 5 years ago, I'd have probably stopped watching basketball all together.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 12, 2011, 11:47 PM
Finally!  Rings for Kidd and Dirk!

Maybe next year LBJ.  How many times have we said that now?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Matt on June 12, 2011, 11:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/d2xN3.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 13, 2011, 12:12 AM
Classic /\

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg734/scaled.php?tn=0&server=734&filename=afv.png&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Jesse James on June 13, 2011, 02:34 AM
Wow, that one's disturbingly good.

I hate basketball, but for some reason I was really happy about Dallas winning this.

It's almost a prerequisite to dislike Cleveland to live here... Seriously, I think you have to sign something before you buy a home even, but yet I felt good for them too, in all this.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Diddly on June 13, 2011, 03:12 AM
I've basically been raised as a Spurs fan but I hopped on the Mavs bandwagon for the Playoffs. Glad to see guys like Dirk and Kidd finally win the big one. Yo'd think this will put an end to the ridiculous "LEBRON IS THE NEXT MJ!" debate but we'll be hearing the same thing in the fall... if there is even an NBA season next year.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Paul on June 13, 2011, 08:07 AM
How is this for irony.  The year Dirk and Kidd win is the year that Mark Cuban decides he is going to break tradition and perhaps not award rings.

I can't find a link but it is was mentioned on the news this AM on the local Fox Channel.

Not sure what the weather is going to be or if there is traffic, heck this is the only thing to knock American Idol news off the top of every broadcast.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: ruiner on June 13, 2011, 09:44 AM
I heard it's a rumor.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 13, 2011, 09:59 AM
Could not have asked for a more satisfying ending to a great series. This is the most I have enjoyed watching the NBA since Jordan was around. Lots of great drama this year.

Gotta feel great for Kidd, Dirk, Jet, Marion, heck pretty much everyone. I love Tyson Chandler and JJ Berea's games too.

I'm even happy for Cuban, dude is the closest thing to Dan Snyder that the NBA has, so it's good to see him learn and grow. You gotta give those rings out though, come on.

Whither the Heatles? They could have won this thing with a little more determination, so it's not like they need to blow it all up. They really need a top-tier point guard though, someone who can actually control the flow of the game and run the offense. This 1-on-1 thing they try to do is not reliable.

I think they also need a seasoned veteran with at least one ring who can step in and regulate. A Charles Oakley/Ben Wallace type dude who can get in Lebron's and DWade's faces when necessary.

And how stupid was that whole coughing-on-tape schtick those 2 pulled? REAL mature fellas.  ::)

Lebron? I just don't get it. Dude is not even in the same conversation with Jordan anymore, as far as I'm concerned, or even Kobe for that matter. His disappearing act was just baffling.

GO MAVS!
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Matt on June 13, 2011, 11:59 AM
Classic /\

(http://i.imgur.com/vYs0n.png)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: EdSolo on June 13, 2011, 01:07 PM


I'm even happy for Cuban, dude is the closest thing to Dan Snyder that the NBA has, so it's good to see him learn and grow. You gotta give those rings out though, come on.



If that were the case, wouldn't LeBron et al. have gone to Dallas?  Snyder is a complete ass who craps on the fans and runs the Skins like a fantasy football team.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2011, 01:24 PM
LeBron played 40 minutes.

In the eight minutes he didn't play, Miami outscored Dallas by 14.

In the 40 minutes he played, the Mavs outscored the Heat by 24 points.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 13, 2011, 01:50 PM
If that were the case, wouldn't LeBron et al. have gone to Dallas?  Snyder is a complete ass who craps on the fans and runs the Skins like a fantasy football team.

I know it's a popular sentiment nationally but that's not really an accurate view of the guy anymore. I'm a former season ticket holder and I certainly don't agree with everything Danny has done, but he is much like Cuban in his youth and obsession for winning (and tendency to rub some people the wrong way). The Skins just don't have any actual success to show for it.  ::)

I love that Cuban basically just shut up for the whole playoff run and did not allow himself to become a distraction. You know he was itching to have a go at Philip after that sweep.

What did you guys think of Lebron's postgame comments?
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on June 13, 2011, 02:19 PM
What did you guys think of Lebron's postgame comments?

You mean about the haters and how he doesn't care?  I think that shows he cares.  I think that also shows that he thinks about himself a little more highly than he ought to.  Yes, people are hating on him but if he thinks that's all they're doing then he needs to shake his head.  I think the folks that are hating on him are doing just fine in most circumstances and are enjoying a situation that made LeBron look bad.  I think they, just like he, are going to go on with their lives.  Most of us have to work for a living so no, we can't spend the summer at a mansion with our posse without any financial concerns so sure, LeBron has it made.  But he's an ass for flaunting it. 
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2011, 02:24 PM
What did you guys think of Lebron's postgame comments?

All I saw was a guy in a nice suit saying I I I Me I I Me Individual My Me I My Individual We Me My I I I I I Me I Us Me My.

It's Lebron day.  We're all taking the last 12 minutes of the day off.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: McMetal on June 13, 2011, 04:50 PM
It's Lebron day.  We're all taking the last 12 minutes of the day off.

LOL, I'm taking my talents to the sofa.

Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Rob on June 13, 2011, 05:41 PM
Good read: (http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/06/13/feeling-the-heat/?sct=hp_t11_a1&eref=sihp)

Quote
This should have made me very happy. After all, I spent the entire NBA season rooting against LeBron James and the Miami Heat. I rooted against the Heat with a joyous zeal. People often asked me why — some lectured me about it. That’s OK. I’m sure I can put the reasons into words if necessary. I rooted against the Heat because I was ticked off at LeBron for quitting on the Cavaliers at the end of last season. I rooted against the Heat because I was ticked off at LeBron for making a mockery of Cleveland and how much the fans there loved him. I rooted against the Heat because something about three buddies deciding to get together in an exotic locale and dominate the NBA seemed like a plot for a bad James Bond movie. I rooted against the Heat because I do not like anyone cutting in line. But the truth is, it didn’t come down to reasons or words. I rooted against the Heat because it was fun. I’ve not really despised a team in a long, long time.
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: Morgbug on June 13, 2011, 10:43 PM
Stealing this photo from a guy on the spawn board.  Love the back of the t-shirt....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v403/DIRK/IMG_1645.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA 2010-2011
Post by: EdSolo on June 14, 2011, 07:06 AM
If that were the case, wouldn't LeBron et al. have gone to Dallas?  Snyder is a complete ass who craps on the fans and runs the Skins like a fantasy football team.

I know it's a popular sentiment nationally but that's not really an accurate view of the guy anymore. I'm a former season ticket holder and I certainly don't agree with everything Danny has done, but he is much like Cuban in his youth and obsession for winning (and tendency to rub some people the wrong way). The Skins just don't have any actual success to show for it.  ::)

I love that Cuban basically just shut up for the whole playoff run and did not allow himself to become a distraction. You know he was itching to have a go at Philip after that sweep.

What did you guys think of Lebron's postgame comments?

I grew up in the DC suburbs.  Synder has only been hands off in the past year.  Things like getting rid of Brian Mitchell so they could bring in a washed up Deon Sanders or drafting Heath Shuler are prime examples of his screw ups.  Just about everything at a Redskins game experience sucks...especially the extreme nightmare of parking, nevermind the price to park.  Synder has bought up DC radio stations so he can have complete control over broadcasts...i.e. no one can bad mouth him or the team.  The guy is nothing like Cuban, and he certainly is no Jack Kent Cooke.  He is just a rich guy with a Napoleon complex.