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Title: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jim on July 17, 2003, 10:15 AM: Looks like this will be announced tomorrow. What are your thoughts of what it might be? Like most people I have so many points I am afraid that it will be an item that will only use up about 1/10th of my points. I am hoping for some type of army builder which will allow us to get rid of them all. It would of been nice to offer a few items to those who collect different items or have a certain amount of points. Hasbro should of offered 4 items that would appeal to everyone.

1. Basic fig
2. Micromachine
3. 12" fig
4. Playset
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 17, 2003, 10:30 AM: Oh boy! Finally!!! I would think a figure makes most sense since that is the bread and butter of the line. Wasn't a silver Clone rumored at one time...that is what my money is on right now

And nice of you to swing in Jim :)
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Nicklab on July 17, 2003, 10:33 AM: The Silver Clone Trooper is going to be a Toys R Us exclusive at Holiday time. Pretty much the same deal as the silver R2-D2.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: jadesfire on July 17, 2003, 10:35 AM: I hope it's an army builder of some sort. I just know that I have a ton of points and should be able to get multiples of whatever they offer. (That 12" line, along with the ships, really ring up the points).
I just hope it's not one per address. :P
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 17, 2003, 10:35 AM: Hmm, strike one...well...

Super Articulated Clone Trooper???

Ties into the Clone Wars line to boot
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jim on July 17, 2003, 10:43 AM: Quote from: OCB on July 17, 2003, 10:30 AM
And nice of you to swing in Jim :)

Thanks Scott! I have been away for about 8 months now with only about 1/2 dozen posts in other forums. Thought I would try out the water here once again. There seems to be quite a few familiar faces and the maturity level seems to be much better.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Diddly on July 17, 2003, 11:30 AM: I can just hear Hasbro now...

"Oh, and our announcement concerning Jedi Master points, just keep saving them, we have something in store for you soon!"
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2003, 11:47 AM: The way I see it is this....

If they're going to do this promotion, it has to be on some level where children can get in on it.

Meaning, if I was 8 years old, I probably wouldn't have the means to save up 3000 jedi master points.

So, if it was say a figure, it would have to cost around 100 or 200 points max for a child to be able to get it.

So I hope they make something where we can order multiples.

Quite frankly, I'd prefer that it either be something completely exclusive - prefereably an army builder, OR...

Commtech stormtroopers - because then I'd be happy getting more than 1. Because i have around 3500 JMPs and I'm sure many of you guys have even more than that.

If they do make something that costs 1000 or more points, that's fine with me, but it would make lots of people upset (carded collectors, kids).
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: JediMAC on July 17, 2003, 12:49 PM: Hey Jim, nice to finally see you stop in for a visit here at JD! 8)

As for the points... Hmmm... No idea what Hasbro's got up their sleeve on this one, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Ever hear of that children's story Never Cry Wolf? Yeah, after hearing Hasbro's excuses, delays, purported upcoming announcements, blah, blah, blah for what - 5 years now - I'm not expecting diddly squat here really...

But I'd be more than happy if Hasbro pleasantly surprises us all with something nice. Hopefully I'll be sitting there at their session tomorrow at the Comic Con when they finally make the announcement. I might get to personally witness one of the truly historical moments of collecting in the modern era... :P

What are my guesses? Obviously I'd love a new figure, or any figure for that matter. I'm guessing if it's a figure, it'll be an older one, a rehash - possibly the Commtech Stormie like Rob mentioned. That'd be a decent choice at least, though they'd have to place some kind of limit on the amount each address could receive, or just produce several hundred thousand more of these things!

Other possibilities: Figure stands (boring), Hasbro collecting T-shirts... Not really sure what else.

My question is, do you think they'll offer up just one item, for X number of points? Or perhaps they might have a "tiered/pyramid" reward giveaway type of setup, like 300 points gets you some figure stands, 750 points gets you a shirt, 1500 points lands an army builder (rehash) figure, and 5000 points lands you a new, exclusive figure... 8)

I'll be quite curious to see how they handle the "you need to include your receipt(s)" deal. Obviously a lot of the points we've saved up are pretty damned old now, and most people have tossed their respective receipts out long ago (but not me! ;D)... 'Cause if it's just a "receiptless" offer, you're going to wind up seeing a lot of badly damaged product on the store shelves! This is going to be very interesting to see how they run their JMP rewards program... :-\

Hasbro's delay has backed them into a corner where they're now in a lose-lose situation for running their program IMO. If they require receipts for all the old points, people will be PISSED! If they don't, people will be PISSED at the chopped off points on a lot of retail store product. If they say that the program is starting NOW, and will require receipts from 7/03 and on, people will be PISSED they wasted all their time collecting the old points. Hasbro's in deep doodoo methinks! ;)

BTW, here's an old thread with some further ideas on the Jedi Master Points redemption:
What do you want for your Jedi Master Points? (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=1077)
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: max_one on July 17, 2003, 12:54 PM: i just hope it's something new, and not some rehashed fig or some revamped vehicle/playset.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Rob on July 17, 2003, 01:16 PM: Quote from: JediMAC on July 17, 2003, 12:49 PM
I'll be quite curious to see how they handle the "you need to include your receipt(s)" deal. Obviously a lot of the points we've saved up are pretty damned old now, and most people have tossed their respective receipts out long ago (but not me! ;D)... 'Cause if it's just a "receiptless" offer, you're going to wind up seeing a lot of badly damaged product on the store shelves! This is going to be very interesting to see how they run their JMP rewards program... :-\

GNT said that hasbro announced at some point that reciepts would NOT be required for whatever program they decide to put into place - specifically for the fact that it's been 4 years since JMPs first hit, and only now will there be a promotion.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: dustrho on July 17, 2003, 01:35 PM: Matt makes a good point... Hasbro has backed themselves in a corner on this one. I don't think they would be stupid enough to ask everyone for their receipts. I hold all of my receipts for two years, and then they get tossed in the trash. I'd say the majority of the people who buy Star Wars toys immediately throw out their receipts after making a purchase.

What exactly will Hasbro offer? If I were them I would offer something in the "holy cow, is that awesome or what!?" category. But, I have a feeling that it's not going to be anything great. They'll probably offer something like...

-- action figure carrying case

-- some lame figure that didn't sell well (Lott Dodd, Mace Windu, flipping deluxe toys

-- Star Wars / Hasbro clothing

Whatever it is, we should find out tomorrow. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it's actually going to be something worthwhile. We can only hope for the best.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jesse James on July 17, 2003, 01:35 PM: If you turn in so many million, or even billion points, you get a signed letter of thanks from every executive at Hasbro, and George Lucas personally writes you a letter stating how he loves the funding you've provided for him to live in his own community, make his own movies, and basically do what he wants.

Or you get a solid gold Jedi Master Point that's like the size of a coffee table...

Oh, and Hasbro did say last year that the points wouldn't require receipts... Whether they remain true to that word is up in the air.

If this redemption is lame, and they forced us to wait ALL this time, I'm gonna be one PO'd consumer...
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: chuckles on July 17, 2003, 01:56 PM: What if it turns out to be some kind of "rebate" of sorts. Like turn in 100 (or any amount) points and get sent a $5 coupon to be used towards any future Hasbro purchase. This way, you don't piss off the carded collectors because they don't miss out on a cool exclusive for lack of points to send in, and it will get people back in the store picking up more product to use these coupons on.

I know, probably very unlikely but as a carded collector who has at most a couple hundred points, I'd hate to see some awesome exclusive items that require 500 or even 1000 points to obtain.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Morgbug on July 17, 2003, 05:01 PM: Aw Jim, I can sell ya some if you like ;D

This should be very interesting. WE'll see if they recognize the market as collector's or both simply by the amount of points and the reward. The average kid is going to have maybe 300 points (30 single figs) whereas the average collector has somewhere between 1000-10000. It will be interesting to see what happens but they are basically in a no win situation. No way can they go with the receipt mentality given the length of time these things have been on cards and the fact that distribution has been horrible for most people since last fall.

I hope it ain't clothing. An army builder would be fine. Silver Fett would kill the scalper market ;D
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: krisvds on July 17, 2003, 09:25 PM: as long as they ask 500 / fig or so ;)
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Darby on July 18, 2003, 12:13 AM: My hope is that it's a program (ongoing) for getting figures we're not going to get otherwise. Whether this is figures like Yarna or Ice Cream Maker Guy (Dorme?) or getting Figures That Time Forgot (Trophy figs, Eopie, etc.), I'm all for it. But since this is reality, it's going to be something less than stellar.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Darth Broem on July 18, 2003, 08:21 AM: I would think they would choose a 3 3/4 figure for the promotion. It's probably the easiest thing for Hasbro to distribute to the masses and store. What it would be is anyone's guess really. It would probably be something geared towards any type of fan. For example I doubt it would be something like B'omarr Monk again. Probably nothing that obscure. I don't know it will be interesting to find out what it is :)

I am just glad to see there may actually be a promotion.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 02:52 PM: The verdict

Sounds like it is an auction!

For those of you who aren’t attending Comic-Con this week, here is what we unveiled today at our presentation.

We are pleased to announce the creation of Jedi Master Points Auctions. Since 1999, you’ve been saving up your points, and we have finally come up with a way for you to use them. Scheduled for launch in September, Jedi Master Point Auctions will enable registered users of www.starwars.hasbro.com to use their Jedi Master Points as currency in a series of online auctions. We are still finalizing what will be auctioned on the site, but we will have hard-to-find items like Jorg Sacul, Toy Fair Darth Vader and the R2-D2 Astromech Droid. The promotion is scheduled to run for a three-month trial period. We will then evaluate the program for the future; however, this may be the only opportunity to ever use your Jedi Master Points, so don’t save them up for something in the future! The total number of auctions will also be limited, so bid early. As more details about the promotion are finalized, we will post on the website, so check back here.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: jadesfire on July 18, 2003, 02:52 PM: An auction??? WTF???
I'm going to be sick now....
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jango Fettish on July 18, 2003, 03:11 PM: Lays did the same thing with the ePloids, and auctioned off Frito Lay promo Episode 2 stuff, like standee's, etc. It went over very well.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jeff on July 18, 2003, 03:23 PM: Quote from: OCB on July 18, 2003, 02:52 PM
The verdict

Sounds like it is an auction!

We are still finalizing what will be auctioned on the site, but we will have hard-to-find items like Jorg Sacul, Toy Fair Darth Vader and the R2-D2 Astromech Droid. The promotion is scheduled to run for a three-month trial period. We will then evaluate the program for the future; however, this may be the only opportunity to ever use your Jedi Master Points, so don’t save them up for something in the future! The total number of auctions will also be limited, so bid early. As more details about the promotion are finalized, we will post on the website, so check back here.

How are they going to keep track of the points?

What if jerks out there bid 1,000,000 points, "win" the auction, but don't have the points to send in? Will they just get a mean note from Hasbro or will the Big H have to go through the list of bidders until someone actually sends the points in?

OR, will we have to send in our points first so they can be counted and then be eligible to vote in the auctions?

I'll be waiting to see how this potential fiasco turns out...

Jeff
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Reconsgt on July 18, 2003, 03:23 PM: I guess i will have to see for myself how it goes. I would have hoped sor something where evryone who has enough points to redeem could do so. This leaves me feeling that alot of people may be stuck with these things in the end. I guess it depends on the amount of items avaliable.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 03:24 PM: I'll guess you have to send in all your points and they will establish an account for you with which you can bid on items. PErson with the most points wins I guess
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Darby on July 18, 2003, 03:26 PM: Not sure I like this at all.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: jadesfire on July 18, 2003, 03:30 PM: I know it states that they have "other" items also, (gee...maybe another Ep1 Watto) so put point values on them also. How hard is that??
Yes, I know there are some that haven't been able to get the exclusive Sacul figure (or the others mentioned for that matter) but they still aren't guaranteed a figure in an auction.

Sorry, there is just no way that I am going to give Hasbro two thumbs up on this idea. And please don't say, "They didn't have to do anything" because as far as I'm concerned, they didn't.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: chuckles on July 18, 2003, 03:34 PM: Well, the bad news is, as someone with only a couple hundred loose points, this pretty much leaves me with no chance to win any of these auctions.

The good news is (to me anyway) is that there doesn't seem to be any new exclusive items I'd be missing out on either.

All in all, this news does nothing for me really.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: SilverZ on July 18, 2003, 03:42 PM: So, it looks like we've saved these for years for the chance to redeem them for something - and so far, all suggested items that many hard-core enough to save JMPs since '99 probably already have.

I realize it is difficult, and potentially costly, for Hasbro to come through with something that will satisfy years of point collection, but this sounds like a bad, bad, bad idea.

I can't see them taking in the points and issuing credits to spend online, it just seems like a tracking nightmare. Can you imagine the workload it would take to tabulate customers points (and do it accurately) then implement them in a database for auctions that start in September?

The whole idea sounds bad, and that's just the logistics! What about the items up for auction? How many items total will be there? What will the quality be? Are there shipping costs? What if auctions are won by deadbeat bidders?

If cost of the promotional item (thats what it is, really, just 4 years late) was an issue, I'd be happy to have paid a "shipping and handling" fee per order to make it easier for them to swallow. If they were worried about offering an exclusive item that upset retailers, why not do this in conjucntion with another entity, like the Fan Club? There seems there would be a lot of different ways to handle this than what appears to be about to happen.

J
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Darth Kenobi on July 18, 2003, 03:49 PM: Thank god I have all of the htf exclusives since ToyFare Vader since I would never have enough points to go and win an auction. I think this is a stuipid ideal Hasbro has put in to effect. I wish I was over at comic con and booed and laughed at the Hasbro reps who said this annocenment. Most carded people (like me) should just throw their points away since we will never have enough to get anything worthwhile. I have around 1,000 or less points from the clearance figures and army builder figures I have but that is not alot compare to the loose collectors.
ONCE AGAIN THIS IS A STUIPID IDEA FROM HASBRO
::)
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 03:53 PM: Just got off the phone with JediMAC, here is what hasbro had to say

The auctions will be held on eBay
Jedi Master points will somehow be converted to a $$$ amount
Only 3 months
Maybe only One time Deal
Auctions will be 1 week long
Need to be a registered starwars.hasbro.com member
US Citizens only
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jesse James on July 18, 2003, 03:53 PM: Not worth the wait...

That's the best way to describe this debacle with the Jedi Master Points.

Offer an exclusive figure... A 3.75", never before made, mail-away promo... Do something civil for your consumers instead of this.

I have a lot of JMP's to use on an auction, but I could've given a rat's behind about their idea... I have Toy Fair Vader... I have Silver R2... I have Jorg Sacul.

What this boils down to is Hasbro didn't want to do much for this pomotion... They realize we are getting impatient on using these and that they needed to do something that would remedy the situation with the points, but not cost them anything because the franchise is failing.

So what's the answer? Oh we'll auction off crap for them...

It's insulting really, and they should've done something that let everyone get something they didn't have... I'm sorry, but after the years of "Don't throw those away, you'll need them!" rhetoric, this answer they've given is unacceptable.

Maybe had this been 1998, we'd have gotten some new figure, but alas it's for not... I miss the days of Muftak/Kabe, Spirit of Ben Kenobi, or Bo'Omar Monks... Where have those days gone?

Bad bad bad idea...

Here's one... Why not just make the bonus pit droids in a baggie... So many points gets you a set. I'd have been happy personally, wouldn't you have? Or a grey jumpsuited Imperial Officer (just redeco the POTJ one in grey instead of black)? I'd have gone for that. Hell, I'd have used every point I have on that.

Nah, too simple, logical, and too giving to the fans I guess.

They've devised a plan where they think many people will use their points up wastefully, and those who don't win will just be SOL on the situation and may as well chuck those JMP's in as packing material the next time they're shipping a Star Wars figure to a friend who can't find diddly squat in his area.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 03:56 PM: Worth Posting Again

Just got off the phone with JediMAC, here is what hasbro had to say

The auctions will be held on eBay
Jedi Master points will somehow be converted to a $$$ amount
Only 3 months
Maybe only One time Deal
Auctions will be 1 week long
Need to be a registered starwars.hasbro.com member
US Citizens only
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Matt Carroll on July 18, 2003, 04:01 PM: Auctions? Ugh. This just sounds like a mess to deal with logistically and a good number of people won't be able to "spend" their points as they will be outbid. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that (hopefully) some collectors will be able to fill in holes in their collections, but this just isn't a good way to do it, IMO.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: DSJ™ on July 18, 2003, 04:06 PM: Quote from: OCB on July 18, 2003, 03:56 PM
Worth Posting Again

Just got off the phone with JediMAC, here is what hasbro had to say

The auctions will be held on eBay
Jedi Master points will somehow be converted to a $$$ amount
Only 3 months
Maybe only One time Deal
Auctions will be 1 week long
Need to be a registered starwars.hasbro.com member
US Citizens only

Hasbro is not making friends with the international market! US Citizens only >:(
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Scott on July 18, 2003, 04:20 PM: Just remebered Shipping and Handling will be included with the auction...so that is not extra
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Diddly on July 18, 2003, 06:45 PM: From my post at RS:

Auction? It took them four years to come up with a friggin' AUCTION idea to spend the Jedi Points? What a load of bull***t. Why can't they just give away a Sacul, or some other exclusive/Hard to find fig for about 100 points each? I am extremely disappointed with Hasblow for this idea. I'll participate, but they'd better have some damn good deals on that site.

Now with the rules that OCB has posted, I will NOT be participating in this.

**** you Hasblow.

>:(
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Darth Broem on July 19, 2003, 02:24 PM: Yep I agree. Well maybe 3 people will be able to use their points when they win the auction. LOL! What a damn joke.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: MetalJedi on July 19, 2003, 03:13 PM: At least they could do is give us some more generic clones or something.

This auction idea maybe a "in the works" project but it's still a lame idea.

Good luck to those who has a billion JMPs.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Jesse James on July 20, 2003, 01:14 AM: Might I reinforce this...

WRITE to Hasbro. Pen & Paper, or print it out, but send a letter to them ASAP. I plan to this week... Let them know your opinions...

I think the whole JMP debacle is insulting that they think this would have gone over well with the collecting community.

I'm curious also, who is going to save theirs now? I have a TF Vader, a Sacul, and an R2-D2... Why should I spend them? I may hold them still... I wish others would as well, and boycot this most assenine of maneuvers by the big H. Getting on Hasbro, and not acknowledging these auctions would be a nice way to send a strong message to them that if they have their finger on any pulse, it's that of a corpse, and not this collecting community.
Title: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Jim on July 21, 2003, 10:40 AM: Like everyone else, I totally disagree with the way Hasbro handled the JP's. I just hope the figs dont end up being 10,000 points for some figure that has already been released. I also hope that collectors are not beat out by online stores. What also scares me is the quantities available on a fig. If they have a dozen TF Vaders then you are screwed. Thousands of people will be bidding, leaving 99.9% with nothing to show. This promotion will most likely fail and the Jedi Points in the future will be useless. BTW, I have close to 8000 points and I probably dont even have a chance.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Scott on July 21, 2003, 11:48 AM: I have never really went and added my points up but the whole thing sorta is blah to me and unless that announce a full list of what will be up for auction I'll probably not even bother
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Reconsgt on July 21, 2003, 12:29 PM: I was curious as to what the "cost" of some of the items may go for but with any auction I guess it will be upto demand.

I added up the points I could find, after 2 moves I lost a bunch. I doubt I will be in the running for anything as I keep most of my collection carded and boxed.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: jadesfire on July 21, 2003, 01:44 PM: 8000 points??!! How you could you NOT be in the running for something?? I opened all my dolls, ships and other stuff (not all my figures but about half) and I have less than half the points you do! Heck, I even have the UPC pieces that have no points (Jabba's dancers, orange card back etc..) .
Just curious if you collect dolls also or if all your points are from figures and ships??
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Jim on July 21, 2003, 01:53 PM: Quote from: jadesfire on July 21, 2003, 01:44 PM
8000 points??!! How you could you NOT be in the running for something?? I opened all my dolls, ships and other stuff (not all my figures but about half) and I have less than half the points you do! Heck, I even have the UPC pieces that have no points (Jabba's dancers, orange card back etc..) .
Just curious if you collect dolls also or if all your points are from figures and ships??

All my points are from Figs, Ships, Beasts and Playsets. At one point I had quite a few army builders which allowed me to acquire so many points. I sold most of my collection about 6 months ago due to personal reasons and within the last few months have been re-acquiring what I had sold off. Which in turn has allowed me even more points. I gave away about 2000 more points to me nephew recently when he heard about the news of the auction. It may seem like alot, but I am sure there are greater numbers out there. Plus, some online dealers must have tons of these.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Morgbug on July 21, 2003, 02:01 PM: I just found about 760 points worth of stuff I will open over the next couple of days. Add that to probably about 1500 or so points already. I haven't opened or touched any of the ships, beasts or deluxe sets yet. I'm guessing I'll top out around 5000 or so points, but I too don't think I'll be in the running.

I hadn't been paying attention to the lack of JMPs on POTF2 stuff, so you can imagine my dismay when I looked at those. On the bright side, all my He-Man Lukes can stay on their orange cards.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Reconsgt on July 21, 2003, 02:08 PM: Wait till some lots of JMPs start poping up on ebay. There was an auction about a month ago that sold for 30 sum dollars for 1250 points.

That may be a better way to get the figs you want sell the points take the cash and buy them ;)
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Scott on July 21, 2003, 02:12 PM: So far Jim that is the most I have seen, I have to have 5000 I'm guessing, I just have never counted them all. Sort of like I have never counted my figures...
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Jim on July 21, 2003, 02:20 PM: I dont know if anyone else is willing, but if these auctions go for crazy prices, then I say we all band together our points. If we win offer them in some kind of contest on the site.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: JediMAC on July 21, 2003, 05:00 PM: I was sitting in at the Hasbro panel at the Comic Con when they made this announcement, and my jaw almost hit the floor. Surprisingly, the crowd that was present at the discussion didn't let out a loud moan/groan, or anything. But I was pissed off to hear about this absolute crap method of point redemption...

The Hasbro rep said they obviously had to be very careful from a business standpoint how they set up the promotion, since there were so many tens of thousands of JM points out there in collectors hands, that there was no way they would be able to cash them all in without getting hit badly financially. So it sounds like there will be a fortunate few who are lucky enough to cash in some of their points and get something nice. Since I already have all the items they mentioned as potential giveaways, I'm really not too concerned about the whole thing. Unless they come up with some other unannounced, and unique items, I'll probably just pass on the whole thing.

No idea how many points I've got, though I'm sure it'd be somewhere between 5,000 - 10,000, if Jim's got 8 and Scott thinks he's got about 5. I haven't been cutting them off the cards, but I've saved all the cards and boxes, so when I move next month, I suppose I could tally 'em all up and see where I stand if I decide I'm interested later on...

The whole thing really stinks though. What was Hasbro thinking? Ebay? They've got to know what a lot of collectors out there thing of the whole auction thing. I'm also guessing that without the need for a receipt, and considering the general desparateness of many folks to add a TF Vader or Sacul to their collections, we're going to be seeing a LOT of cut up SW Hasbro product on the retail shelves in the near future. Hopefully I'm wrong about that, and that there aren't such unscrupolous people out there that would do such a thing, but I won't be surprised if it does...

Shame on you Hasbro! Wish I had the cojones to tell them so at their booth later on, but I unfortunately just bit my tongue...
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: dustrho on July 21, 2003, 05:21 PM: I'm sure I have between 3k-5k Jedi Points, but I highly doubt I'm even going to worry about using the points toward anything. I can't believe Hasbro is doing it as an auction... not fair to the people who love collecting Star Wars but don't have all the points saved up. I give the whole thing a big thumbs down.
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Darth Kenobi on July 21, 2003, 05:38 PM: I think I have around 500 or so I haven't counted them in a while and think I lost them some where. Since this annocement if I did lose them it sounds like I don't have to worry to much.
I wonder how many points are out there if Hasbro is worried that they will be hit hard with a promition like a figure or something.
Suipid Idea Hasbro.
Title: Re: Jedi Points? Your Prediction
Post by: Snively Bandar on July 21, 2003, 08:20 PM: My prediction is that Hasbro in their infinite wisdom will come up with some stupid ploy, like using the JMPs in an Ebay auction type of thing to get junk that we already have. Can you imagine if they did something as stupid as that?! ::)

Oh, wait a second... :P
Title: Re: How many JP points will it take?
Post by: Ben on July 22, 2003, 01:57 PM: Would it have killed them to offer a mail-in? Here was a perfect opportunity to get unreleased stuff like Trophy OOM-9 and Obi-Wan in collector's hands. But, it was probably the idea of the same corporate sleazeball that thought collectors would absolutely LOVE to see action features on their Star Wars figures.
Title: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jim on July 23, 2003, 07:33 AM: Check out this auction:

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%

This numbnuts wants $50 for his points. Two things come to mind here. That probably wont be enough points to win anything, plus you can already buy some of the planned items if you had $50. I hope anyone that who buys these gets burned. Opinions?
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jedirhino on July 23, 2003, 07:55 AM: someone has bid on it!!!!

Well I suppose that there are people out there that will buy anything
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jim on July 23, 2003, 12:44 PM: Well another one has popped up and only $100 for 3450 points. What a bargain.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3139929954&category=2476
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: DSJ™ on July 23, 2003, 12:54 PM: People will do anything to make a buck! ::)
Sad thing is, like the first auction, there are others that want to have the most points they can get so they can bid away.
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Darth Broem on July 23, 2003, 02:12 PM: I said it another forum that's it's a good idea. I mean he is not going to win the auctions Hasbro eluded to. The points won't do him any good now. Hasbro probably won't have another promotion like send in the points and get a figure. So, he might as well get some money for them if he can. Otherwise they are worthless. And sure enough someone has bid.
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jesse James on July 23, 2003, 07:00 PM: My recommendation is not to hate this guy selling his... Hate the concept Hasbro came up with. Hate the fact they are basically doing something to use up the Jedi Master Points without having to "give back" to the people who have loyally bought their half-hearted product just because we love Star Wars.

Hate anyone, hate Hasbro. That guy just saw an opportunity, and I hardly blame him for what he's done.

I'm personally keeping my JMP's... Maybe another offer will be made, but the auction idea doesn't entice me at all and I have the figures they've mentioned so far and don't want any more of them, even if I could sell them for outrageous prices.

Maybe someone who really needed them will get them... I can hope.

It's just a whole sham to me... I do see it as insulting to the loyalty we've shown over these years, and believing that we'd actually ALL get to use our points some day in a promotion that benefits the masses instead of just a select few.
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: dustrho on July 23, 2003, 07:12 PM: Well, I actually think it's a great idea selling those Jedi points on eBay. There's no way in hell that I'll ever be able to use them... I just don't have enough of them. I only have about 3,000 tops, and those are all still on the carded figures packaging (which I won't open). But I do have a bunch of Jedi points from opening some figures, so maybe I'll sell them on eBay. It's a great idea, and the person that started selling them has a very creative mind.
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: jadesfire on July 23, 2003, 07:20 PM: I don't see anything wrong with it. If people want to bid on points, let them. I also have around 3000 points and need none of the things which Hasbro offered but if someone wants to buy or trade my points for a figure I'm missing I'd be all for it! I'd get a free figure (which is all I ever wanted anyways) and they'd get a few thousand more points.

As mentioned above...Hasbro is the one who should shoulder all the anger with this useless promotion. :P
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jedirhino on July 24, 2003, 11:29 AM: Hey I have some plastic ties used to tie figures and vehicles into the box to sell...do you think I could get $100 for 100???!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Jim on July 24, 2003, 11:54 AM: I really dont mind the fact that people are selling these. The part that bothers me is the price for some of these. I know its a free country and you can sell things for whatever price you like but to me the price is much too high. Like I stated earlier, you can buy most of those figs for $50 or $100. Why bother paying that much for points?
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: obi_robz on July 24, 2003, 05:22 PM: At least you guys have a chance of getting something…the UK has been excluded (again).

Anyone from the US want to buy my 3000+ points? ;)
Title: Re: Jedi Points on Ebay? Give me a break!
Post by: Angry Ewok on July 25, 2003, 01:56 AM: Yea, I'm not cutting out any points for this Ebay stuff. I think whoever thought this up should crash in Lucas' private jet, directly into Ewok Lake... I've said that before, now that I think of it.
Title: Jedi Points Whats the Latest?
Post by: Jim on July 31, 2003, 10:12 AM: Any idea when Hasbro is going to start giving more info out on these? Dates, Products offered, rules and regulations? To make this fair and to avoid the pitfalls, you should have to send in your points to register. This will eliminate people cheating which everyone knows is going to happen. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Jedi Points Whats the Latest?
Post by: SiteC on July 31, 2003, 10:48 AM: No, no sending in points pre-auction. That way if you lose the auction, you have no points for the next round and your f-ed