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Title: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jayson on February 2, 2011, 03:02 PM
New Saga Legends Assortment (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS21115C)

Some decent OT army builders in there (Stormtrooper, Spacetrooper, DST)
Title: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 2, 2011, 04:03 PM
Those three are a nice change but the rest makes for a very lousy case pack:

Old Mace Windu when the new one is shipping
Old Aankin when the new one is shipping (They could have released the current one without sith eyes)
SBD when he is shipping now
Crappy Rocket action Fett
Horrible ROTS Yoda
How about Tan Battle Droids?

The majority of the figures herein this case are currently rotting on pegs right now. I undertsand these are kid focused but they could have brought in a lot of collectors with a little effort.
Title: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Greg on February 2, 2011, 04:27 PM
Old Mace Windu when the new one is shipping
Old Aankin when the new one is shipping (They could have released the current one without sith eyes)
SBD when he is shipping now
Crappy Rocket action Fett
Horrible ROTS Yoda

And this is why the Saga Legends and TVC lines need to be folded together. It doesn't make sense to have nearly identical figures (SBD, Anakin) and sometimes inferior ones (Mace, Yoda) on the shelves as Saga Legends at the same time as the TVC releases. Maybe I'm looking at things through rose-tinted glasses, but I don't remember this kind of overlap during the 2007 TAC line or even the 2008 Legacy assortments.
Title: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: CHEWIE on February 2, 2011, 04:54 PM
Hasbro has some very questionable logic, that's for sure.
Title: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Greg on February 2, 2011, 05:50 PM
Hasbro has some very questionable logic, that's for sure.

Nah... they only have Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Yoda competing against each other in THREE DIFFERENT LINES! Repack the TAC Obi/Ani/Yoda/Darth for vintage during year A, then update the figure and card for year B. Have a new Mace, Clone, and Battle Droid in year A, then repack them during year B. Fill out the rest of the line with new, collector oriented figures. Rotate/refresh the assortments every year for a mix of new characters, new updates, and plain old repaints/repacks. No need for one line with all repacks and another with some repacks and some new stuff.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on February 2, 2011, 07:22 PM
Death Star Trooper? Really? That's nice...except the figure kinda sucks.

Space Trooooper...will be hard to find.

Stormtrooper will probably be VOTC, meaning it'll look good but lack ball hips the worse looking Vintage figure has.

Super Battle Droid is odd, for a buck more you get retro card and a tiny pistol (also no stand/card and "secret weapons"...but). It would be hysterical if it was the Arena series version with ankle articulation.

Destroyer Droid...same old version...never got one...don't care, I never liked Destroyer Droids much.

Beau B. Fett, stock photo, they all are, no idea what they'll use.

SHould've kicked Windu out of the case, and had Snowtrooper in there.

Though, if nobody noticed, that is a CLONE TROOPERLESS Legends case. And that's surprising.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 2, 2011, 08:21 PM
Nice to see the Space trooper make a comeback. I'm liking the OT army builders too, but thankfully I've got all I need/want. Only figures I'd really like to see make a comeback are the recent At-St driver from the Target set and the Shadow Bikerscout from the Comic-con set.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Nicklab on February 2, 2011, 08:40 PM
It really is laughable to see how much character overlap there has been between the Vintage Collection and Saga Legends.  It really begs the question about whether or not the sales of those particular characters are SO strong that they need to be offered in multiple lines.

There are a couple of interesting offerings in this new wave.  The Death Star Trooper and Space Trooper immediately come to mind.  But everything else really leaves you scratching your head.  Especially since 9 out of 12 of these characters have been or will be offered in The Vintage Collection.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Diddly on February 2, 2011, 10:28 PM
The only EU wave figure I ever saw was the Bespin Guard, so I'm hoping to at least find a single Spacetrooper.

And I gotta agree with the baffling logic of putting Windu, SBD, Yoda, etc. into Legends when there are much, much better (or in the case of the SBD the EXACT SAME) versions of the same figures in the Vintage line.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: darth broem 2 on February 2, 2011, 10:33 PM
"I have a bad feeling about this."
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 03:12 AM
I still never see the red battledroids.  Those should be more abundant I think...  But yeah, basically the same thing everyone else was saying about the figures competing with one another, and Hasbro sticking inferior sculpts/figures into the Legends assortment.

It's a shame, and I think if they kept Legends to maybe animated figures for a little while, and instead repacked some of these guys on vintage cards, I think they'd do better.

Like for Legends, you put out a CW Ani, Clones, etc.  For Vintage repacks you slipped in that Spacetrooper, and so on.  Just makes more sense.  Right now it seems like a recipe for disaster in every way except the Spacetrooper.  HE's the battledroid 2-pack...  The rest, meh.

Or at the very least don't put the f'n things out in the vintage line at the same time.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: McMetal on February 3, 2011, 09:05 AM
I don't want to see any animated figures in that crap line. They already carry forward too many old TCW figures in the new animated case assortments. I don't think anyone is in a hurry to see more Space Helmet Anakins clogging the pegs.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: speedermike on February 3, 2011, 09:45 AM
I think carrying figures forward in TCW makes total sense, since it's on TV every week. Make one good Ani and one good Obi-Wan, and keep them on the pegs. Spend tooling money on the many, many new characters.  I think that Hasbro has handled TCW very well.

But jeez, as a business, why compete with yourself?  What mom or dad is going to buy the 10.00 Vinatge Mace and not the 8.00 Legends Mace.  It's total nonsense.

And...why not paint the DST grey?  Would it have killed them?
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Brian on February 3, 2011, 10:32 AM
Pretty much agree with what everyone has said here.  Nice to see some more OT in the Legends line, particularly something like the Stormtrooper, which I've always thought should be as readily available as the Clones in this line.  People always want/need more Stormies, and it would even make a good option for kiddos (particularly around Christmas).

The overlap is getting a little ridiculous, that is for sure.  I think many to most of them could be folded into the Vintage Collection, or dropped altogether (the inferior and competing sculpts).  I don't think anyone would complain if they were packing Stormtroopers, Spacetroopers, Hoth Rebels, Snowtroopers, Biker Scouts, etc. into the Vintage waves.  Otherwise, dedicate the line (Legends) more fully to army builders or "ultimate" versions of the main characters that you want on the pegs all the time (the perfect place for VOTC/VTSC/Evolutions re-releases, as well as army builders).

As others mentioned, I think that the Clone Wars line has been handled pretty well.  I can see where it would be frustrating for those ordering cases, since there is often only a handful of "new" figures and a bunch of repacks, but for a primarily "kids" line, I think it works well.  I know our nephews each asked for one CW figure from us for Christmas, one Cad Bane and one Anakin.  It was surprising how difficult it was to find a Anakin figure at retail around here at Christmastime.  I could have found a Legends or maybe even Vintage collection version, but he wanted the animated one, and those were pretty well sold out at that time here.  Those big heroes/villains (Anakin, Obi-Wan, Grievous, etc.) should pretty much always be there for the kiddos I think, whether it is in the CW line, or if they switched them into the Legends assortment (making it animated re-releases as suggested already).
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Greg on February 3, 2011, 10:41 AM
I still never see the red battledroids.  Those should be more abundant I think...  But yeah, basically the same thing everyone else was saying about the figures competing with one another, and Hasbro sticking inferior sculpts/figures into the Legends assortment.

Shameless Plug: If you're looking for red SA BDs, I'm trying to sell eight sets of them... shoot me a PM if interested.

Now, regarding the overlap and such, I wouldn't mind seeing the Vintage line scaled back if it meant dropping the repacks, repaints, and upgrades. Instead of 8-11 new and slightly new figures per wave, I wouldn't mind 3 brand new figures, 2 or 3 upgrades/retools, and maybe one repaint. Make only two figures per wave "core" characters, and put the rest of the essentials in the SL line. If Hasbro wants to upgrade, let's say, Obi-Wan or a clone trooper, drop them from SL for that year and they can take the retool slots in the Vintage line. 
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Siths Herald on February 3, 2011, 03:39 PM
I think it's nice to see the Spacetrooper back.  I missed him last year. 
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on February 3, 2011, 04:15 PM
I think it's nice to see the Spacetrooper back.  I missed him last year. 

He is a great figures, I have 5 and may be tempted to get some more. Now if they only put more figures like this in Legends they would get more sales from collectors.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on February 3, 2011, 07:41 PM
I'm saying make Legends part of Clone Wars...  It was designed to sort of supplement Clone Wars when 2008 rolled around.  Get figures out that didn't have a CW3D figure out or coming out...  Why not take that premise a step further and make the repack CW figures now Saga Legends and take them OUT of the main CW line...  That way you could maybe slip a more obscure repack into TCW, while still getting your Ani's and OBi's out on a card that is virtually identical to the CW card... 

They could slip a realistic Legends figure in now and again too, but they're almost further ahead to take the repacks out of Legends with the realistic look, and try to capitalize by putting them on a vintage card and expanding the "vintage carded collection".  This is all assuming TCW is outselling Vintage and such, and that Legends is in need of some new life.

They've got the expanded tooling library for animated figures now to do it, I think it'd just make more sense to see animated figures in a line designed almost exclusively for kids to pick up the main guys they want.  That way a realistic Ani isn't competing with a realistic Ani, in a line that supposedly has the slower sales rates.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: DoctorPadawan on February 5, 2011, 02:26 PM
I agree with you to a point, Jesse, but I'm of the opinion that the SL line just needs to go away, period.  It really serves no purpose other than to confuse casual shoppers at this point, and the statements Hasbro has made about "getting main characters out there for kids" really holds no water, since the vast majority of SL figures this year had currently-shipping counterparts in either the Vintage or CW line.  That seems to be continuing with this "new" assortment of SL, where we will be getting an older Mace Windu (since outdone, I'm assuming, by the vintage version) and an older Boba Fett (whose vintage counterpart should be one of the figures that is carried forward in vintage cases as a repack).  The only figures in the "new" SL assortments that are worth it are the original VOTC Stormie and the EU Spacetrooper.

Not to mention the fact that there will soon be FIVE different Anakin Skywalker figures on the pegs across three assortments (CW Fishbowl Helmet, CW Season III Model, Saga Legends, ROTS Vintage, and AOTC Vintage), along with FIVE different Obi-Wan Kenobis (CW, CW Season III Model, Vintage ROTS, Vintage AOTC, Saga Legends).  That's simply ridiculous in this economy, from the retail end and Hasbro's end. 

Put simply, this is how I would do it:

-Saga Legends is DONE.  FINISHED.  KAPUT.

-Vintage is ALL new figures, with "case fillers" of older, still good figures on vintage cards (Battle Droids, VOTC Stormtroopers, Snowtroopers, Biker Scouts, etc). 

-Clone Wars has repacks that make sense, along the same lines as the "case fillers" motif in vintage (older, still good figures like deluxe version of Dooku, Pre Viszla, MagnaGuards, etc).

Two assortments is enough: one for the kids from the cartoon, one for the collectors in vintage.  Saga Legends is confusing and unnecessary at this point.  But then again, that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: McMetal on February 5, 2011, 07:39 PM
I agree completely Doc, the SL line is just a useless anachronism now. I can't imagine anyone would shed tears over its extinction.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on February 6, 2011, 12:35 AM
I'm hoping Legends last long enough for them to change the secret weapons to include Rebel fleet trooper blasters, stormtrooper pistols and rifles. Lightsabers would be nice, too...but unlikely. I like extra weapons...but I want more OT ones.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Darth_Anton on February 6, 2011, 12:42 AM
I'm hoping Legends last long enough for them to change the secret weapons to include Rebel fleet trooper blasters, stormtrooper pistols and rifles.

Yes. This is a must.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: 501ST on February 6, 2011, 12:15 PM
I agree completely Doc, the SL line is just a useless anachronism now. I can't imagine anyone would shed tears over its extinction.

I also agree with Doc on this.

Have not touched any SL figures since the TVC came along. I collect CW and TVC alone - already have quite enough figures of the SL repacks to suit me.

Cannot see what it's doing cept filling some of the empty pegs,currently here (Queensland,Australia) the SL figures just pegwarm.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Captain Piet on February 6, 2011, 01:20 PM
Why this line isn't integrated with vintage or whatever the current line is, I just don't understand.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Matt_Fury on February 6, 2011, 01:30 PM
Why this line isn't integrated with vintage or whatever the current line is, I just don't understand.

Would you like to spend extra on army builders just to put them on a vintage card?

I think that's all the line is good for....plus the occaisional "main" character that sold well in the past.  I'm on the lookout for a couple more snowtroopers and will get a couple more Space Troopers if I see them.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Nicklab on February 6, 2011, 08:57 PM
Honestly, there are only a few Saga Legends figures I see with a good degree of regularity:  Episode III Anakin & Obi-Wan, the Phase I Clone, Phase II Clone and the 501st Clone.  The rest of the Saga Legends lineup seems to sell through pretty well in the NYC suburbs. 

Hasbro could certainly stand to tweak the character selection so that there's not so much overlap between Vintage and Saga Legends.  But I think you're going to find that the sales numbers for Vader on a Vintage card are pretty even with sales of Vader on the Saga Legends cards.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: 501ST on March 8, 2011, 11:09 AM
the SL line is just a useless anachronism now. I can't imagine anyone would shed tears over its extinction.

Nope,no tears from me. But I am a heartless bastard.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Nicklab on March 8, 2011, 11:56 AM
the SL line is just a useless anachronism now. I can't imagine anyone would shed tears over its extinction.

Nope,no tears from me. But I am a heartless bastard.

And what if this line proves to be the avenue by which we might get the Gamorrean Guard re-offered?  And how about the running change of the Hoth Rebel Trooper that was packed in the Defense of Hoth pack which was a Target exclusive?  These are figures that I am very hopeful to see offered in Saga Legends at some point in time.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on March 8, 2011, 12:45 PM
that would be too cool for school to have Gam Guard out in SL. I could definitely see myself getting more of these if I saw them swinging on the pegs if there was nothing else to be had.  I do not army build by any means - but I did feel compelled to grab 4 of these guys.  I am pretty sure I remember reading that Jabba purchased 9 of them initially - so I could grab 5 more   :P

The rebels, while not as interesting to me, I could see getting more of - just to a much lesser extent per version than the Gam Guards.  I just loved that big old nasty piggy creature when I was a kid. 
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Nicklab on March 8, 2011, 01:09 PM
I think it would be almost foolish of Hasbro to pass on the opportunity to get more Gamorrean Guards out on the market.  The secondary market prices of $20+ for that figure should definitely give them good reason to get more of them out on the market.  And Hasbro does actually watch what's hot on eBay. 
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on March 8, 2011, 01:36 PM
They are sloooow to change Legends' line-up, though.

As for the idea of ending of Legends being integrated with Vintage, what would probably happen is that Hasbro repacks the same crop of Legends figures on vintage cards as part of the vintage assortment (They've really already have done this with Super Battle Droid and ROTS Obi Wan), therefore you have the same  repacks/peg warmers on fancier card backs...arguably making things worse than before since they'd have the same SKU as vintage. Does anyone remember the late 90's? The same figures shipped over and over and nothing new to be found because stores were packed to the gills with Tarkins, rancor keepers, Ponda Babas  and so forth, and the stores stopped ordering to the point that a wave was cancelled and sent to the fan club. If Legends merged with Vintage, you can take the current the Vintage Sandtroopers and ROTS Clones stuck at stores and mulitply them times 10.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Brian on March 8, 2011, 01:59 PM
I'd love to see the Gamorreans in Saga Legends at some point as well.  Heck, I'm just hoping that ROTJ wave in general sees a little more distribution, because it really seemed to come and go quickly both at retail and online.  I still see a Rebel Soldier now and then (our Target has had one on the pegs for over a month now), and there might be Wooof or Ackbar around somewhere, but that is about it.  Overall, the ROTJ figures really sold quickly here.  The Gamorrean would be a great choice for SL, and hopefully we'll see that happen.  There have been quite a few new army builders lately (Hoth Rebel, Endor Rebel, Gammies, upcoming RFT, etc.) that could be added to that lineup.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jeff on March 8, 2011, 02:12 PM
I'm just hoping that ROTJ wave in general sees a little more distribution, because it really seemed to come and go quickly both at retail and online. 

Well, when the Wave 3, Rev 12 cases start shipping in May (ie the case with Wedge), you'll get your wish. ;)

what would probably happen is that Hasbro repacks the same crop of Legends figures on vintage cards as part of the vintage assortment (They've really already have done this with Super Battle Droid and ROTS Obi Wan)

Not just those two, there is already tons of character overlap between the two - Vader, Jango, Grievous, Ep2/3 Clones, 501st Trooper, etc.  Sure the sculpts used vary a bit betwen the two lines now, but the idea of getting those Legends characters on vintage cardbacks is already done.

If they were thinking of pulling downgrades on us (swapping the Legends AotC Trooper for the new one for example) going forward at the higher Vintage price point?  Man, that would be some fun reading on the forums! :P
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on March 9, 2011, 11:21 PM
Hasbro press photos of the next Legends assortment show Spacetrooper...which is really the POTF2 Dark Trooper. OOPS! Also, the Saga 2006 kit bash Boba Fett. What will be on the actual cards, though, remains to be seen.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jabba the Slug on March 19, 2011, 03:14 AM
Hasbro press photos of the next Legends assortment show Spacetrooper...which is really the POTF2 Dark Trooper. OOPS!

I'm really hoping that gets fixed (and we don't get the POTF2 Trooper), or else SL will once again be completely useless to me this year...
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on May 1, 2011, 04:59 PM
Someone forgot to tell Hasbro that April Fool's Day was a month ago!  :(

(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/Halomite/32882pkg_11.jpg)

(http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m625/Halomite/32881pkg_11.jpg)

Also, no long states "Includes Secret Weapons", so maybe Hasbro dumped them to save 2 cents per 100 figures reissued.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on May 2, 2011, 12:45 PM
Sniff...sniff...I smell running change. The final squeeze of obsolete tools.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on May 2, 2011, 01:01 PM
You mean the running changes that Hasbro can't intentionally do but has done 4 times with Legends, and 5 or so times with Vintage in the past 10 months?

What's funny, I never got that Dark Trooper. Even when he was reissued the first time 3 years ago, he was dated looking.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 2, 2011, 07:36 PM
I wish they would release the B.A.D. dark trooper on a card, instead of the "bad" dark trooper.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on May 9, 2011, 03:06 AM
As per the front page...

New Legends Figure Images! (http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1304924256,44818,)

This confirms a couple things, and can either elate people, or annoy them, depending on which figures they were most interested in I guess.  Most annoying to me is that Fett...  Certain figures should just be retired, and he's one of them.  You have Fett molds that are vastly superior, please use them.

And of course, the Spacetrooper is now pretty well locked that we're not getting the 1998 Darktrooper in his stead. :P  That figure will go quickly, even though I think it's the weaker of the two designs, personally.  It's still a popular figure regardless, and will sell great I think.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Diddly on May 9, 2011, 03:50 AM
VOTC Stormtroopers? TAC Destroyer Droids? TLC Spacetroopers? Sign me up for a bunch of those. Really hoping I can find them, I NEVER get the good Legends figures in my stores. I've still only seen one Battle Droid 2 pack, so I'm fully expecting to only see Yoda and Fett from this wave.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Darth_Anton on May 9, 2011, 08:44 AM
I wish they'd offer more imperial themed weapons packs. It would entice me to pick some these up for the fun of it.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Greg on May 9, 2011, 09:17 AM
VOTC Stormtroopers? TAC Destroyer Droids? TLC Spacetroopers? Sign me up for a bunch of those. Really hoping I can find them, I NEVER get the good Legends figures in my stores. I've still only seen one Battle Droid 2 pack, so I'm fully expecting to only see Yoda and Fett from this wave.

The Destroyer Droid looks like the previous SL releases with the firing missiles. The bulky torso is a huge giveaway. I am looking forward to getting some Storm Troopers and Space Troopers... I had no doubt that the promotional photos of the Dark Trooper were errors, so seeing the Space Trooper on the card is no surprise at all.

One entry that I don't understand is the Death Star Trooper. I remember that figure peg warming the first time, and I predict that this release will be no different. My apologies to anyone who likes the figure/character, but the design is really boring.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on May 9, 2011, 05:02 PM
Still gotta wonder if some of those Darktroopers won't still appear at retail.

At least Space Trooper has a gun. I wish he had 6 or 7 guns...I like the secret weapons.  Heck, I wanted that idea expanded on. I wanted the previous clone gear to include more actual gear, like gun belts and clone helmets...someone at another forum couldn't understand the point of that (they were never a kid or something or would never buy a used figure without a helmet). And lightsabers...kids loose lightsabers, and some of those removable blade ones broke on me.


Batteries included with R2-D2! WOW! How generous!  :P

Oh, it seems a solid assumption that the weapons are gone since they actually changed R2,Yoda and Vader's card inserts.

 2006 Vaders and Boba Fetts... :-X
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on May 9, 2011, 07:54 PM
I agree on the gear, and I'd take that a step further...  Include backpacks, maybe a heavier weapons type item like Draa's rocket launcher or whatnot.  I like crap like that.  I liked the GI Joe weapons packs as a kid...  Extra helmets?  Hey, why not?  I'd dig seeing Thermal Detonators like Boussh Leia's too...  Or bombs like the Endor accessory bombs.  Sachel packs like the Airborne Trooper?  Cool by me.

What's the guy doing with the extra guns that he feels they're "justifiable" but anything else isn't?  That's odd.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Keonobi on May 9, 2011, 09:56 PM
Agreed, including a greater variety of accesories would be fantastic.  I know I picked up a bunch of GI Joes at Marshalls over the last couple of years on clearance (my Wife is adamant that I DON'T COLLECT GI JOE! :) ) solely because of the weapons/backpacks/etc. that they included.  I don't know if its just because of the EU-Stormtrooper (Hondo Karr) who was big into knives, but I think a Stormtrooper looks wickedly menacing holding a big knife (they gotta have a blade tucked away somewhere in the armor right?).
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on May 9, 2011, 11:13 PM
I'd dig seeing some medical gear stowed into the sets too...  Bacta packs, maybe a medic sachel bag (redeco the Airborne Trooper's sachel to look like a medic bag or something), maybe even a stretcher...  It's fun to dream about the goofy stuff that they could do as an accessory I guess.  Stuff not maybe applicable to the figure, just fun to have around if you want it.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Mister Skeezler on May 10, 2011, 03:18 PM
I'd love more small environment pieces too, with the appropriate character. C-3PO doesn't need a pack in rocket launcher, but some cantina cups, a stool, maybe some assorted crap to sprinkle around Jabba's palace and the cantina...I'm sick of making (and painting) sculpy vases...

Characters like the Jawa could have "junk", officers and politician characters could have datapads or some of those weird sculptures. I guess a lot of that relies on new sculpts, but there are some things that would make good pack-ins that have already been released.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on June 23, 2011, 05:58 PM
You've probably heard, but "New" Legends are actually out there now. Saw them at Wal-Mart (one where Legends are back up to $7.88 each). No surprises.

No secret weapons, as we already new.

No Dark Troopers on Space TRooper cards, thankfully (Or not for folks who wanted old Dark Troopers). Space Trooper has a pistol now.

Saga 2006 Boba Fett and Saga 2006 Vaders.  :( 

Battle Droid is same old one, no ankle joints, and there is NO blaster included, no matter what the package says...unless it's incredibly well hidden.

Destroyer Droid is the action attack version.

Stormtrooper is VOC, or close to it.

Death Star Trooper seems to have same hair color and even the weathering on his blaster.

Mace Windu is 30th release of that same mold...HA!  30th anniversary.

Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: McMetal on June 24, 2011, 01:16 PM
Saw the newest wave of Legends at Target today while out hunting TVC Wave 7. Meh.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 25, 2011, 08:47 AM
I picked up the imperial guys at WM yesterday. Pure impulse buy.

And not having the extra weapons is a real let down.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on July 16, 2011, 10:28 PM
I just saw a full set of Legends at WM, for the first time...  The new ones that is, which is to say the old ****** stuff with less pack-in stuff, so yeah...  Saw 'em though.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Sybeck1 on July 16, 2011, 10:35 PM
Found this wave spread out over two Targets in the Memphis area, minus the Spacetroopers I was hunting for of course,
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 6, 2011, 03:42 PM
I've finally found this wave spread out over several visits to Target and I was wondering - I never seem to find figures SL24 and SL26.

I've looked on lists and most say that SL24 is Obi-Wan, but SL12 is also Obi-Wan and he's shipping in the case, so what's the deal there?

Also, the Destroyer Droid and the Spacetrooper both come numbered SL31, which one is really SL31 and is there one of them out there with the fixed number?

Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Darby on August 6, 2011, 03:50 PM
SL24 if I'm not mistaken is a pilot Obi Wan version which shipped for a while last year.  26 not sure.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Pete_Fett on August 6, 2011, 04:07 PM
SL24 if I'm not mistaken is a pilot Obi Wan version which shipped for a while last year.  26 not sure.

I was just looking at EE's case listings for Legends, and for the Wave 3 Rev1 and Rev2 cases they have the figure listed as:
SL24 Obi-Wan EPIII

So I guess it's just a SotDS packaged version of the Red/White Pilot Obi-Wan Legends figure....
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: JediMoses on September 19, 2011, 11:35 PM
Glad to see Hasbro putting the nail in the coffin on these.  Annoyed by the lack of the weapon pack in, which I some how missed until tonight.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on September 20, 2011, 12:39 AM
Yeah, the weapon removal was a punch in the ding ding from them.

A) it costs NOTHING to add that.  Total dick move to remove it.

B) They went from having some paint aps on them to even removing those, so it wasn't like they already hadn't cut the corners as low as they could short of removal.

C) It was one of the only reasons I'd buy a Legends figure I didn't really need sometimes.  Snowtroopers are cool, I have a lot, but sometimes the pack of weapons was enough for me to say, "Eh, at least I get some extra Commando and Stormtrooper blasters", and I'd cave.  Now they somehow have made Legends even more unattractive, which was hard to accomplish for me.

2007's were just awesome things everybody was wanting more of.  I mean, Pit Droids!  That was great.

2011's were figures you'd maybe want more of, but clearly it's aimed at kids more than the adults, and so for them to remove something like extra guns (kids love that, don't they?  Extras of what they lose is good, right?), I'm just disappointed in that.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on September 20, 2011, 08:26 AM
Kids like extra guns, they'd like extra lightsabers, too*. Watching some stop motion vids on youtube, some of which are made by kids, they use the extra weapons, the EMP launcher (?) is used as a bazooka. Going by my yard sale hunts, its also the weapon most likely to survive and be sold at a yard sale (got two of them this year).

All the clones that needed rifles had a chance to get them.

For those of us who do buy used figures that often come without accessories, it was an incentive to get some new figures.

Also, you can sell your unwanted weapons on ebay, same with the BAD parts.

*This is strange that lightsabers have only been offered in the Episode 1 accessory packs, vintage Kenner didn't include any in their mail-in offer and Bespin Luke's saber was soooo easy to lose.

I'd bring the concept back and make 6 assortments, one per movie...cut it back to 5 weapons per set but include some lightsabers.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: AJ98 on October 12, 2011, 07:52 AM
I was at my local Walmart the other day and found a bunch of empty pegs for the Saga Legends figures with a price tag that read $2.00. not sure why this particular Walmart would price the figures so low but it was only for the Saga Legends and not any of the Clone Wars. needless to say there was only one Kenobi to be found. been patiently waiting for them to restock but so far no luck.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2011, 10:58 PM
So I was at Target this weekend...  I'm there just about every weekend, actually, but this struck me as interesting and something I see fairly routinely...

Everyone hates Legends.  I get that.

But for at least 4 weeks straight, at this single Target, they have put at least one new case of Legends out each week, and that case has sold fairly well.  I have bought the Battledroids each time out of it lately since they're on sale and all.  I don't generally pay close attention to which characters are out because Legends hasn't had a lot I was into myself.

I'm just saying...  4 weeks in a row (or more), 4 fresh cases, 4 cases selling down pretty well and getting re-ordered serving up another BD 2-pack to me each week (and Spacetroopers to others I guess since they seem to be the other one I see go fast or not at all).  Color me a little surprised I guess because I too have been down on Legends this year, but I swear it does better than CW sometimes, and CW moves well here except the weird secondary guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: JediMoses on October 31, 2011, 11:18 PM
I am in many targets in the Twin Cities over a week.  Most have gotten cases of Legends in the past few weeks and slowly but surely burn through them.  I hate the amount of space they take up and the lack of variation in the mx for the past three years.  Yet, they sell. 
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Mister Skeezler on November 2, 2011, 09:26 AM
Legends aren't bad when there's a good rerelease. What doesn't make sense is to have a $10 vintage Vader, Anakin, Boba Fett or Obi-Wan hanging on the pegs next to a $7 Legends version. That's just bad business, and kind of hamstrings the Vintage line.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on November 2, 2011, 12:08 PM
Movie Heroes will make the Vintage soar then.

I've bought more battle droid 2-packs and Snowtroopers than I have any vintage carded army builder.

I know we are cheated out of a tan droid 2-pack because Hasbro doesn't do running changes except when they do.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on November 6, 2011, 02:45 PM
I noticed at Target, the current wave is shipping, all older repacks, but without the secret weapons. So Snow Troopers and Jango Fett and Battle Droid 2-packs with no frills. Just a heads up for packaging variant collectors and those who might be disappointed if they were expecting extra guns.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jayson on November 6, 2011, 04:03 PM
I noticed at Target, the current wave is shipping, all older repacks, but without the secret weapons. So Snow Troopers and Jango Fett and Battle Droid 2-packs with no frills. Just a heads up for packaging variant collectors and those who might be disappointed if they were expecting extra guns.

Yep, both assortments (http://www.entertainmentearth.com/hitlist.asp?searchfield=saga+legends&eeshop=&x=0&y=0) of wave 3 are sans "Secret Weapons".
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Jesse James on November 7, 2011, 07:24 PM
Yeah those are the ones I'm seeing (and the ones with the Spacetrooper/DST) at Target, but they're selling through at a shockign pace...  And my WM's selling through too but not re-ordering as furiously.  The SL pegs are pretty empty at WM though, and really only TCW is full up.
Title: Re: 2011 Saga Legends Figures
Post by: Scockery on June 8, 2013, 06:52 PM
At TJ Maxx/Marshalls I got 2 Destroyer Droids and 2 Super Battle Droids for $3 each. One store had another SBD for $4...HA! No, thanks. And the same store had another for $4.99. Other figures were still $4.99, someone realized separatist troops are undesirable?