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Title: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on June 6, 2012, 05:09 PM
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Looks like several companies are posting their SDCC Exclusives...any guesses on a possible SW one?

I still find it odd that NO retail exclusives were shown in the TF slides. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on June 6, 2012, 05:13 PM
Only the Carbon Freezing Chamber 7 pack (http://yakfaceforums.com/main/2012/06/06/sdcc-carbonite-chamber-in-high-res/) as far as I know.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on June 6, 2012, 05:36 PM
I should have said "other"  :P

Has GG or Sideshow announced their exclusives?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 6, 2012, 07:12 PM
Anyone want to place bets on whether or not they learned their lesson from the "Revenge of the Jedi" set and these will be A LOT easier to get via Hasbro Toy Shop?

I'm hoping the answer is "yes", but I'm not counting on it.

I know it defeats the point of it being "exclusive" but I really wish as an alternative to buying this set, they were selling just Jar Jar in Carbonite on a Vintage card-back. So make it be where the 7-pack is only needed by extreme mint-in-package collectors.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on June 6, 2012, 09:01 PM
I'm not a big fan of exclusives being "hard to get", but if it's something really simple like exclusive packaging, I'm ok with that.  The ROTLA Lost Wave killed me that they'd do that...  That sucked.  The Revenge Cards, as far as I'm concerned, could've never come out to retail (including the black Trooper) and I would've been pretty much as happy.

I could've tried for the Trooper somewhere, but I wouldn't have been flailing about over it either.

I see Hasbro revealed a Marvel 3-Pack as an exclusive for SDCC already so I think there may be a Star Wars reveal very soon...  Jocasta Nu's a rumor going around, but not necessarilly for SDCC.  *shrugs*

I hope she's animated so I can not care.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 19, 2012, 02:19 PM
I will be at SDCC this year for my work on that Thursday and Friday (all day for both)
Anyone else from JD going?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Nicklab on June 19, 2012, 02:59 PM
I should have said "other"  :P

Has GG or Sideshow announced their exclusives?

Gentle Giant announced an Admiral Motti mini-bust as their SDCC Star Wars exclusive
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 20, 2012, 08:57 AM
I always go, but there may be a conflict this year. I won't know until a few days before, but we should certainly hook up if I do.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JACKOFTRADZE on June 20, 2012, 09:01 AM
LMK, would love to meet you.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on June 23, 2012, 07:22 PM
As it stands I think the only thing I am wanting from SDCC is the Marvel Universe Masters of Evil 3 pack.  But it stinks cuz I will be working until about 12:30 central time this year.  Does anyone remember about what time everything on HTS went up for sale last year?

Or is there anyone out there going to SDCC that might be able to secure me one of these?   ;) ;)

update:  just remembered I wanted the Jinx figures too.....  oops!  lol
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: speedermike on June 26, 2012, 12:09 AM
Changing the subject a bit, any idea if we'll actually see anything new this year?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on June 26, 2012, 12:26 AM
They better or the Hasbro reps are going to get a double tongue lashing from the fan boys. They've already pissed us off enough with bad distribution.  It will be fun to sit in that Hasbro panel.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on June 26, 2012, 01:29 AM
Some predictions...

-I think a repainted Snowspeeder is on the way, maybe as an exclusive.  Wedge's.  Snowspeeder Wedge maybe a short distance behind it.

-The TRU Exclusives will be unveiled if they don't get it beforehand.

-I think we'll see C6's exclusive(s).

-I think we'll see or hear at least a rumbling of some kind of attempt to get figures from early this year out in greater quantities...  If it's not brought up by them, someone will ask about it.

-Death Squad Commander...  I think it's gonna happen, and I think we'll be hearing about it before Summer's up.

-Clone Wars Fans are going to have something to be moderately happy about at least, despite the disappointing first half of the year.

-Target Christmas Items.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on June 26, 2012, 09:20 AM
SDCC Star Wars announcements:

The whole action figure line will be placed on hiatus until summer of 2013, so they can focus on some kiddie construction toys. The failure of Episode 1 related merchandise will be blamed. No new AOTC merchandise is planned, as the 3D release of that film will only play in select major cities and not see wide release.

No more large vehicles will be made because of low orders for the MTT, and the starfighter assortment will be cancelled, this will be revealed after the showing of a mock-up of some really awesome ship.

Lucasfilm will pull the Star Wars license from Lego so Hasbro can make Star Wars Kre-o.

Despite its success the BAD feature at Disney will be cancelled abruptly, all remaining parts to be rounded up and destroyed.

The Clone Wars cartoon will end after a 13 episode season 5. Cartoon Network announces that the new episodes will air in the show's new time slot, 4 AM on monday morning. These episodes will not be put up on Starwars.com.

New head of LucasFilm, Kathleen Kennedy, will reveal that the Star Wars live-action t.v. show plans are official cancelled.

 >:D
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on June 26, 2012, 09:55 AM
You are a prophet. I can definately see the first two happening.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Brian on June 26, 2012, 10:17 AM
I think it could really be an interesting presentation(s) at Comic Con this year.  With the rumors of the end of the Marvel Universe line, as well as hints to another Hasbro line seeing similar fate, there could lots of questions for the Hasbro people at SDCC this year.  Hopefully, we'll get some answers.  I do think we're going to see a scaling down/back of the line in some capacity, whether it is fewer individual lines (maybe one overall line), scaling back on articulation/new characters/etc., or a combination of both.  Action figure lines in general are in a strange place now, with kids caring less and collectors getting frustrated with price and distribution.  I'm really interested to see what the future holds for the SW line.  I think it is all but certain that TVC is done at the end of the year (or on hiatus at least), and the future of CW seems murky at best after the treatment it has gotten this year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on June 26, 2012, 03:15 PM
Proof that Build A Droid is coming back, go to Starwars.com and play the fun Jawa Junkyard: Droids game.

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 26, 2012, 06:17 PM
While I know that there is lots of talk that Vintage is going on hiatus in 2013, but what about the possibility of it continuing in the same fashion that it was introduced?

Instead of a running assortment throughout the year, they only release a dedicated wave of figures for the movie that is being released in 3D. So in 2013, we'll get one wave of Vintage figures and it will be figures all from Attack of the Clones; then in 2014, we'll get one wave of Vintage figures and it will be figures from Revenge of the Sith; etc...

So it's not continuing but it's not being killed outright either.

I wouldn't be surprised to see these waves to be a exclusive to a specific store either - like Toys R Us who has picked up quite a bit of end-of-year Vintage exclusives this year and has had a wave exclusive to them in the past...

Just a thought....
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Greg on June 26, 2012, 07:12 PM
Instead of a running assortment throughout the year, they only release a dedicated wave of figures for the movie that is being released in 3D. So in 2013, we'll get one wave of Vintage figures and it will be figures all from Attack of the Clones; then in 2014, we'll get one wave of Vintage figures and it will be figures from Revenge of the Sith; etc...

So essentially what happened this year for TPM, only intentional.  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on June 26, 2012, 07:52 PM
So essentially what happened this year for TPM, only intentional.  :P

Yeah - exactly! :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: darth broem 2 on June 27, 2012, 12:28 AM
Kind of interested to see if they will show anymore of the vintage 3 packs.  At least I may have a shot in hell at finding them in the stores...maybe.  If TPM figures ever get off the pegs by Christmas.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on June 29, 2012, 11:22 PM
Have we posted this in here yet?  Details on the brave souls who are willing to show up to the SDCC Presentation...  on Friday the 13th.  :P

Friday, July 13th , 11:00am-12:00pm
Hasbro: Star Wars—Hasbro's Derryl DePriest (VP, global brand marketing), Jeff Labovitz (director, global brand marketing), Michelino Paolino (senior director, product design), Brian Merten (senior manager, product design), Adam Pagano (senior art director), and Erik Arana (Star Wars product designer) discuss the popular Hasbro Star Wars line. Attendees will also get a sneak peek at upcoming, never before seen items. The panelists will also host some Q&A for your burning Star Wars action figure questions. Room 7AB
Tags:  Action Figures - Toys - Collectibles | Animation | Fandom | Kids | Movies | Science Fiction & Fantasy | Television
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on June 30, 2012, 08:13 AM
1 of 3 things will happen I predict:

1) hasbro will have "plants" in the audience who will lob them easy softball questions

2) at the last minute they will announce they are not taking questions at all

3) for some bizarre inexplicable reason, none of the people who show up and stand in line to get into this thing will have had any problems getting new figures this year, so the torches and pitchforks never come out.

We need a Denis Leary/Lewis Black type of SW fan who will stand up and speak with righteous anger, but intelligently. I really hope this is the year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Darth_Anton on June 30, 2012, 09:30 AM
Just locked down a room, so I should be there, and I always hit that panel.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: evenflow on June 30, 2012, 09:18 PM
1 of 3 things will happen I predict:

1) hasbro will have "plants" in the audience who will lob them easy softball questions

2) at the last minute they will announce they are not taking questions at all

3) for some bizarre inexplicable reason, none of the people who show up and stand in line to get into this thing will have had any problems getting new figures this year, so the torches and pitchforks never come out.

We need a Denis Leary/Lewis Black type of SW fan who will stand up and speak with righteous anger, but intelligently. I really hope this is the year.

Or the presentation will run extra long and there wont be any time for questions.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on June 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
1. No questions about distribution.
2. No questions about future releases.
3. No questions about retail prices.
4. No questions about the Live Action TV Series (even though we have nothing to do with whether it happens or not)

"So, any questions?"

*Many hands raised*

"Ones that aren't just insults directed at us or Hasbro?"

*One hand remains raised*

"You sir?"

"Yeah, could you take us through the process of how a figure goes from design to final product?"

"We'd be delighted..."(answer takes up 45 minutes of the alloted time.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 2, 2012, 09:27 PM
I'd like to know if Hasbro is going to still rerelease some of those WM exclusive TPM figures on Vintage cards since all that is warming the Vintage pegs are those dreaded TPM figures.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 2, 2012, 11:05 PM
I have a feeling that, if at all possible, Hasbro has axed those on vinty cards...  Even the droid was easy to get by the end of it.  Just my opinion but I think those are off the table.  I mean, a WHOLE EXCLUSIVE WAVE basically pegwarmed...  And they're all 100% outstanding figures in that exclusive wave.  I think that screams a LOT about the current state of the hobby in general.

I think similar Hasbro intervention's been taken on Wave 2 & 3.  Anything TPM's maybe poison to them at this point.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Brian on July 3, 2012, 10:38 AM
I mean, a WHOLE EXCLUSIVE WAVE basically pegwarmed...  And they're all 100% outstanding figures in that exclusive wave.  I think that screams a LOT about the current state of the hobby in general.

That is something I have noticed as well this year.  Not only did an exclusive wave (with several new figures, no less) pegwarm in many (most?) areas...but I've also noticed how many brand new waves are left in stock online weeks after they debut.  Granted, they are higher priced (like Amazon's $13 price), but even so....years ago that wouldn't have happened.  An exclusives wave of figures would nearly never be found, and if something new showed up online (particularly at a reputable place like Amazon) it would be gone within minutes.  It just seems like the line has lost a lot of "heat" in that way.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 3, 2012, 11:01 AM
On Monday's Attack of the Show on G4 they covered some of the Hasbro exclusives at SDCC - the Super Hellicarrier, the Cobra/Transformers HISS Tank and the Carbon Freeze Chamber set.

Now, I am assuming that the copy that Candace Bailey read came from Hasbro marketing, but I suppose it could have always come from some production assistant's imagination - but for the Hellicarrier and the Carbon Freeze Chamber sets she specifically called attention to the fact that they would be available online.

With the Hellicarrier that makes sense - the thing is huge and its size will definitely be a deterrent to someone who flew into San Diego for SDCC. With the Star Wars set, fingers crossed that they upped the numbers on the piece and the problems of the Revenge set from 2011 won't be repeated.

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 3, 2012, 11:43 AM
Well, Hasbro DOES tend to learn from its own mistakes...

Oh wait, no they don't.

 ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 3, 2012, 01:08 PM
I have a feeling that, if at all possible, Hasbro has axed those on vinty cards... 

I'll be upset if that's the case since I avoided those so I could get them on the vinty cards since that was my preferred method of getting them.   :-\  But I totally get that.  I'm tired of finding all 12 TPM figures pegwarming.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: warinthefloor on July 3, 2012, 03:41 PM
man I dig TPM, and bought all the figures, multiples even and damn I cant even scratch a dent in this glut
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: MasterFisto on July 3, 2012, 04:39 PM
I'll be upset if that's the case since I avoided those so I could get them on the vinty cards since that was my preferred method of getting them.

Well, it looks like it's time for you to go out and pick up those DTF figures.   ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 3, 2012, 04:44 PM
Have them build a Walmart in NYC.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Nicklab on July 3, 2012, 05:08 PM
Have them build a Walmart in NYC.

That's a WHOLE other discussion.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: MasterFisto on July 3, 2012, 05:51 PM
Have them build a Walmart in NYC.

I just talked to Sam Walton...done, and DONE!

Let me know if you need some assistance.  I'd be glad to pick some up for you, but I only ship loose.  Sorry.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 5, 2012, 08:33 PM
You know, if they do cancel these on the vinty cards, people are gonna be pissed that they will be missing some ##s in their TVCs... kind of like Salacious Crumb and the Mouse Droid from last year's exclusives.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 5, 2012, 11:51 PM
"People are gonna be pissed" seems to be something you should plug into every topic regarding the Hasbro Star Wars line...  They're damned if they do and damned if they don't I think.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on July 7, 2012, 12:06 PM
Do you guys want to do a meet up for lunch? I'll be there thursday. We havn't done one in a long time and would be great to see everyone again.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 7, 2012, 05:56 PM
"People are gonna be pissed" seems to be something you should plug into every topic regarding the Hasbro Star Wars line...  They're damned if they do and damned if they don't I think.

I love the line itself.  It's all the other crap that comes with it.  High prices, bad distribution, no availability.  If I want the figures I have to buy a case.  Sorry, that's not always an option.  So, it is very frustrating.  It used to be I could find 95% of the line in stores with some diligent hunting to find some items.  Now I can't find 95% of the line and have to hunt all the time to see zilch.  It's just irritating.  It's been going on for a majority of the year.  In fact almost a full 12 months.  Of course it's really hit a snag since TPM figures were put out. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 7, 2012, 09:35 PM
Have them build a Walmart in NYC.

That's a WHOLE other discussion.

Should we start a new thread??  I did see most of the ones I wanted at a Walmart near my parents, but I'm going to hold off until I hear they are officially cancelled.  I do hope someone asks a Hasbro rep (whether they are going to put those TPM ones on Vinty cards) if they are going to SDCC.  I'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediMoses on July 8, 2012, 01:08 AM
So does Hasbro have a presentation or are they just doing the 10 minute one on ones with the major sites?  Or is it both?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 8, 2012, 01:51 AM
Yes on presentation...

Have we posted this in here yet?  Details on the brave souls who are willing to show up to the SDCC Presentation...  on Friday the 13th.  :P

Friday, July 13th , 11:00am-12:00pm
Hasbro: Star Wars—Hasbro's Derryl DePriest (VP, global brand marketing), Jeff Labovitz (director, global brand marketing), Michelino Paolino (senior director, product design), Brian Merten (senior manager, product design), Adam Pagano (senior art director), and Erik Arana (Star Wars product designer) discuss the popular Hasbro Star Wars line. Attendees will also get a sneak peek at upcoming, never before seen items. The panelists will also host some Q&A for your burning Star Wars action figure questions. Room 7AB
Tags:  Action Figures - Toys - Collectibles | Animation | Fandom | Kids | Movies | Science Fiction & Fantasy | Television

And yes on the "ten-minute site 1-on-1s".  Those should be interesting.   ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 8, 2012, 10:31 AM
Has there been any official info on when stuff will go on sale at HTS?  Monday, Tuesday after the Con?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 8, 2012, 10:43 AM
Do you guys want to do a meet up for lunch? I'll be there thursday. We havn't done one in a long time and would be great to see everyone again.

Sure.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediMoses on July 9, 2012, 11:48 AM
Yes on presentation...

Have we posted this in here yet?  Details on the brave souls who are willing to show up to the SDCC Presentation...  on Friday the 13th.  :P

Friday, July 13th , 11:00am-12:00pm
Hasbro: Star Wars—Hasbro's Derryl DePriest (VP, global brand marketing), Jeff Labovitz (director, global brand marketing), Michelino Paolino (senior director, product design), Brian Merten (senior manager, product design), Adam Pagano (senior art director), and Erik Arana (Star Wars product designer) discuss the popular Hasbro Star Wars line. Attendees will also get a sneak peek at upcoming, never before seen items. The panelists will also host some Q&A for your burning Star Wars action figure questions. Room 7AB
Tags:  Action Figures - Toys - Collectibles | Animation | Fandom | Kids | Movies | Science Fiction & Fantasy | Television

And yes on the "ten-minute site 1-on-1s".  Those should be interesting.   ::)

So Are the 10 minute 1 on 1s for all sites or just the major ones.  I imagine JediDefender is one.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2012, 11:56 AM
We are, but we have to coordinate it with one of our friends attending the show due to none of the staff being able to make the trip and our usual suspect also not making the trip due to a recent move.

We're working on it, and we'll hopefully update soon on it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
It'll be good to know who's doing it... maybe we could get a list of questions to that person to present to Hasbro.  I know I've got one (which might be answered during the presentation) that determines whether I buy product now or wait.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 9, 2012, 02:06 PM
There's only 10 minutes unfortunately...  We're putting together as much as we can, but that's not a ton of time of course, and we're figuring only a handful of questions will be available.  We're trying to make it worth it though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 10, 2012, 09:12 AM
Any hopes I had for Hasbro attempting to redeem themselves at SDCC this year were dashed when I read this over at GH this morning:

"The focus for Star Wars this year appears to be Fighter Pods and not so much the traditional action figure line."

 ::)

Well, thanks for nothing. Is ANYONE buying those stupid things? I've never even seen a kid look twice at them on the aisle. I've heard plenty of parent comments though, like "They don't do anything" or "They're too small, they'll get lost" etc etc.

Watch the whole Hasbro slide show just be Fighter Pods...the audience would burn that conference room to the ground. Well, hopefully...
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 10, 2012, 10:58 AM
Seriously? That's the focus? Those stupid fighter pods that are constantly clogging the space on the pegs and shelves?

Wow - they are REALLY out of touch.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 10, 2012, 12:35 PM
Well, it's the focus of the Star Wars part of the SDCC press release at least...

Quote
STAR WARS

The Force is strong with Hasbro at Comic-Con International as the Company celebrates the recent launch of its popular STAR WARS FIGHTER PODS toy line, new action figures, the epic Course of the Force Lightsaber relay and more! To celebrate the highly collectible STAR WARS FIGHTER PODS line, visitors to the Hasbro booth will be able to pose in front of a unique display featuring DARTH VADER and CHEWBACCA statues in their ‘Micro Heroes, Mega Battles' FIGHTER PODS expression as well as a massive FIGHTER POD in the shape of a DEATH STAR filled with thousands of figures from the new line. Additionally, in what is becoming a Comic-Con tradition for Hasbro, fans of the traditional action figure lines will be able to step inside a ‘life-size' DARTH VADER RETURN OF THE JEDI blister card package and pose as their own action figure. Hasbro will be sampling STAR WARS FIGHTER PODS blind bags featuring one FIGHTER PODS figure and one "Pod" which will be distributed at various times throughout the show to fans while supplies last.

STAR WARS collectors will want to visit the Hasbro booth to get a sneak peak at current and upcoming toys in its MOVIE HEROES, CLONE WARS, VINTAGE, and FIGHTER PODS action figure lines. Fans won't want to miss these reveals as well as a look at the extensive line of STAR WARS vehicle toys and roleplay items to act out the intergalactic saga including ELECTRONIC MASKS, ULTIMATE FX LIGHTSABERS and more.

However, as STAR WARS fans know, the ULTIMATE FX LIGHTSABER can't be contained in the Hasbro booth alone. The ‘elegant weapon' will be featured in the Course of the Force, an Olympic-style Lightsaber relay presented by LucasFilm and Nerdist, taking place in the days leading up to Comic-Con, where participants will make a journey from Santa Monica to San Diego. Participants will hand off a custom Hasbro STAR WARS ULTMATE FX LIGHTSABER, the official Lightsaber of the Course of the Force, to the next runner as they begin their leg of the journey. Hasbro will welcome Ashley Eckstein voice of Ahsoka Tano in STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS and of the STAR WARS Course of the Force to its booth for an autograph session on Sunday, July 15 from 2:30-3:30pm in celebration of the epic Lightsaber relay where she will sign special Course of the Force photos for lucky fans. Tickets are required for participation and will be distributed in the Hasbro booth beginning at 9:00am on Sunday while supplies last.

I've highlighted the "action figure" parts - not much, eh?  And I'm sure the "extensive line of STAR WARS vehicle toys" probably means the MTT and maybe the rumored TRU exclusives (Slave I, AT-ST, Speederbike).
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: iFett on July 10, 2012, 12:46 PM
extensive line of STAR WARS vehicle toys?  I thought those were done?  Those $25-$35 repacks have never moved as far as I can tell...
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 10, 2012, 12:52 PM
Is this the April 1st press release?

Fighter pods are cute for kids, but not for the price they offer.  It seems at toy fair that they were pushing the whole Fighter Pods line, so I guess it's too early for them to bail on the concept, I guess.  Maybe Hasbro is listening to the collectors and scaling back, offering a few choice selection of figures for the future?  Say 30-36 figures/year compared to the years where it was overwhelming.  Who knows.  Hopefully, we'll get some answers.

I can't wait to see the new stuff.  Just a few more days to wait!
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 10, 2012, 12:54 PM
Are you sure the "Star Wars Vehicle Toys" isn't that AMP'D crap that they showed off at Toy Fair?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2012, 03:49 PM
I'm pretty sure this is because Hasbro has C6 and NYCC on tap too...  Bear that in mind.  You can't blow your wad early like other years when C6 is around and you sort of HAVE to show cool stuff at it, and NYCC seems to be on their plate now.  At least I was assuming NYCC was on their plate again this year...  maybe not.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Sybeck1 on July 10, 2012, 07:11 PM
Curto's podcast had two big reveals at the end of it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 10, 2012, 09:21 PM
I'm pretty sure this is because Hasbro has C6 and NYCC on tap too...  Bear that in mind.  You can't blow your wad early like other years when C6 is around and you sort of HAVE to show cool stuff at it, and NYCC seems to be on their plate now.  At least I was assuming NYCC was on their plate again this year...  maybe not.

There is a NYCC but I heard they were skipping it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on July 10, 2012, 09:24 PM
FOr those who don't to listen to Curto's podcast his big reveal are two two packs, one with Widdle and Oochee and one with the AT-ST drivers who they jack the walker from
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 10, 2012, 10:46 PM
I've heard the AT-ST Pilot we've personally seen, is part of the one AT-ST set...  We posted that rumor just a little while ago, and it seems like it's at least partially coming true.  I'm cool with an AT-ST Pilot 2-pack.

Funny how it coincides with that AT-ST in the Vintage Box...
Title: Re: SDCC
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 11, 2012, 02:50 PM
Is that Coleman Kcaj (sp?) on the shelf below? (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=400816293309646&set=a.154660191258592.33010.148167331907878&type=1&theater)  Not meaning to derail, half the fun of these ealry pics are playing eye-spy in the "background"   ;D  also cant determine what that is to the left of what I am thinking is Coleman.  Looks new....
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 11, 2012, 03:34 PM
I think so... also looks like there might be a Pilot of some kind (V-Wing or TIE?), Ep3 Anakin, a Clone (Sergeant?), and a couple others.

Looking at Twitter, I see some people are seeing Jocast Nu in that pic?  Not sure I see that...
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 11, 2012, 03:38 PM
someone on Facebook said they think that thing next to the supposed Kcaj is maybe Dooku's pilot droid from AOTC
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 11, 2012, 03:51 PM
I don't see Jocasta Nu either.  There is a female there with the opened sleeves, but I'm not sure who it is (I figured Padme, but I don't think she had an outfit like that).
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rune Haako on July 11, 2012, 03:57 PM
Looks like Dooku's droid to me.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 11, 2012, 04:09 PM
Ewok scouts not super articulated? I bet their price will be...wait...that made no sense...their prices will as much as a single carded Ewok. Well, I hope not. 2 pack is an odd deal...ROTJ 2-packs existed but not like that IIRC. In the glorious past, all 4 figures would be a  battle pack, maybe with Chewbacca tossed in.

I see another Anakin...to be expected.  Glad the Clone sgt who was in the film for  .0002 seconds will be getting an upgrade.
(Yeah, that's to be expected, too).
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 11, 2012, 04:33 PM
Gaaah! We're getting reveals already?!?! I'm not prepared...must...start...drinking immediately. This is the funnest part of the whole deal IMO, the slide show is inevitably a let-down.

Can't wait to see more stuff through the night, hoping for a little TCW love.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2012, 04:34 PM
Look up to the right of the packaged figures...  What's the big yellow foot thing?  Almost looks Sy Snootle-ish, doesn't it?

I see that thing with its arms raised...  Could that be Jocasta?  It's very slight.

If that black pilot is a V-Winger that's kind of disappointing.  I'd hoped they'd use the "white" armor from the Cross Section book ultimately...  That just looks like the same TIE Pilot, which it obviously could be too, but if it's a cobbled together V-Winger it's sort of a cop out.

Here's something of note...

The AT-ST DRiver we've seen does NOT have that web harness on.

It's got no holster but it's a different color than the Attack on Hoth set's driver.

Interesting...  These could still be prototypes and the final won't have holsters, or they could be totally separate figures too.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 11, 2012, 04:37 PM
Look up to the right of the packaged figures...  What's the big yellow foot thing?  Almost looks Sy Snootle-ish, doesn't it?


looks like 3po and Chewie to me on the right of the the pic
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2012, 04:50 PM
I was thinking the yellowish bit was a broader foot, not chrome-ish gold...  Might be glare though too I guess.  Doesn't anyone there have a friggin' iPhone!?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2012, 06:02 PM
The best thing I've seen so far is that Mahawnik (sp?), Naboo Pilot, Aurra Sing & Gungan Warrior are all shown on the Vintage figures shelf and Aurra and the Gungan seem to have paint application differences - and the Gungan for sure has a new super-long staff accessory.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 11, 2012, 06:17 PM
The best thing I've seen so far is that Mahawnik (sp?), Naboo Pilot, Aurra Sing & Gungan Warrior are all shown on the Vintage figures shelf and Aurra and the Gungan seem to have paint application differences - and the Gungan for sure has a new super-long staff accessory.

Where'd you see those?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 11, 2012, 06:18 PM
Gungan for sure has a new super-long staff accessory.

The Walmart Gungan came with that too.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 11, 2012, 06:20 PM
Looks like Dooku's droid to me.

Definitely the Pilot Droid (with console to the right).
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Nicklab on July 11, 2012, 06:33 PM
The best thing I've seen so far is that Mahawnik (sp?), Naboo Pilot, Aurra Sing & Gungan Warrior are all shown on the Vintage figures shelf and Aurra and the Gungan seem to have paint application differences - and the Gungan for sure has a new super-long staff accessory.


Where'd you see those?

Check out the GH Facebook page. They managed to get on the floor early today
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2012, 06:59 PM
Gungan for sure has a new super-long staff accessory.

The Walmart Gungan came with that too.

None of my WalMart Gungans had a staff this long...

(http://www.galactichunter.com/gh/sites/default/files/imagecache/rescale_inline_400px/wysiwyg_imageupload/7/sdcc12pre-16_0.jpg)

(image from Galactic Hunter)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 11, 2012, 07:06 PM
None of my WalMart Gungans had a staff this long...

Did you open the figure? It comes in 2 pieces to assemble (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/2012Hasbro/Discover_The_Force/DTF05-GUNGAN_WARRIOR/DTF05-GUNGAN_WARRIOR-09.jpg) into one long one.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: speedermike on July 11, 2012, 07:18 PM
Boy...this hobby is really getting to an end for me.  This used to be the coolest time of the year...seeing new product and looking forward to finding it the following year.  But jeez...there's so little that's "new" it's just sad.

I am hoping, really, really hoping, that something cool shows up in the slideshow.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 11, 2012, 07:22 PM
A lot of the displays are off-limits right now. Good stuff will be shown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 11, 2012, 07:34 PM
None of my WalMart Gungans had a staff this long...

Did you open the figure? It comes in 2 pieces to assemble (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=/2012Hasbro/Discover_The_Force/DTF05-GUNGAN_WARRIOR/DTF05-GUNGAN_WARRIOR-09.jpg) into one long one.

LOL - yeah - I didn't realize the two staffs actually clicked together - I thought one was a spear and the other was something to throw those energy bombs....

Sorry - my bad...
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 11, 2012, 07:37 PM
I love that Hasbro brought out all the Wave 1 TPM vehicles to show off in the displays, in case you didn't get a good look at them on the clearance aisle of your local Walmart the past 3 months.

Looks like a big bag of suck to me so far, though as others have pointed out, it is early yet.

Curious though, if you had advance floor access to the Hasbro display, wouldn't you try to take pictures of the "new" figures? Specifically, the ones on the secret mystery shelf right below the 2-packs? It would only take one clear, head-on photo to clear up once and for all whether we are looking at Pablo Jill, Black Oddball, Jocasta Nu, or whatever.

I've looked over all the advance photos at GH and SSG and there still seems to be only that one grainy, half-glimpse of a shot under the 2-packs. Need the crisp, HD full-on money shot!

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 11, 2012, 08:01 PM
The awesome Movie Heroes Boba Fett with rocket firing jet pack! (at least it's a good mold) A another barely articulated Battle Droid that (explodes?) splits in two! (how many crappy new battle droid sculpts do the need?)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 11, 2012, 08:59 PM
Remember too Mike, there's C6 to show stuff...  They've got the extra layer, so it spreads things a little thinner now.  The "big sensory overload" days may be over if they're going to keep Celebrations and intermitent NYCC attendances going.  I remember when you'd be punched in the nuts with a pile of new at SDCC and that was it till February.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Brian on July 11, 2012, 09:02 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure we'll see a whole lot at SDCC either with both C6 and NYCC coming up - as others have mentioned.  What I do hope we'll get is some sort of information on the future of the line(s) during the presentation, Q and A, or just visits throughout the weekend.  Is CW ending?  Are we getting a scaled back line in 2013?  Is vintage definitely leaving (for now), and is build a droid coming back?  Are we seeing a shift to "simpler" figures a la the recent battle packs?  These are things I'd like to find out more about.  Of course, I'd like to see some new stuff too, even if they just show one new wave or something at each upcoming show (along with rumored exclusives, etc.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on July 11, 2012, 11:58 PM
See you all tomorrow at the show.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Matt R. on July 12, 2012, 07:11 AM
It seems like Luminara is next for a update.  Again over at Sandtroopers has a image of her in Barriss Slot.  Hasbro goof I guess

here the link http://www.sandtroopers.com/events/sdcc2012/preview_night/Hasbro/target2.html
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 12, 2012, 08:19 AM
Look another Boba Fett.  Thank goodness.  It's been like a month since we got one.  Sorry, but yeah I like seeing the AT-ST and Ewok 2 packs.  Those were a nice surprise.  Doubtful I will ever actually see them let alone hold them in my hands, but nice nonetheless.  I like the new Nien Nunb.  I don't remember seeing a picture of it. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 12, 2012, 09:37 AM
I'd like to know if Hasbro is going to still rerelease some of those WM exclusive TPM figures on Vintage cards since all that is warming the Vintage pegs are those dreaded TPM figures.
You know, if they do cancel these on the vinty cards, people are gonna be pissed that they will be missing some ##s in their TVCs...
I do hope someone asks a Hasbro rep (whether they are going to put those TPM ones on Vinty cards) if they are going to SDCC.  I'd appreciate it.
maybe we could get a list of questions to that person to present to Hasbro.  I know I've got one (which might be answered during the presentation) that determines whether I buy product now or wait.

So Steve, will you stop worrying now? (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120712/)  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 12, 2012, 09:39 AM
I'd like to know if Hasbro is going to still rerelease some of those WM exclusive TPM figures on Vintage cards since all that is warming the Vintage pegs are those dreaded TPM figures.
You know, if they do cancel these on the vinty cards, people are gonna be pissed that they will be missing some ##s in their TVCs...
I do hope someone asks a Hasbro rep (whether they are going to put those TPM ones on Vinty cards) if they are going to SDCC.  I'd appreciate it.
maybe we could get a list of questions to that person to present to Hasbro.  I know I've got one (which might be answered during the presentation) that determines whether I buy product now or wait.

So Steve, will you stop worrying now? (http://www.sandtroopers.com/sandwatch/hasbro/20120712/)  :P

I could, but you know Hasbro.  ;)  Yes, I am happy to see that they will be out soon and I can finally get these on the vinty card... if I can find them.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 12, 2012, 09:52 AM
Showing all this great new stuff for the SW line is all well and good, but having it in a display case is one thing; actually, you know, sending it to stores so people can buy it is another.  The only way I'm going to be excited about them is if Hasbro says, "Yeah, we're fully aware of how badly we've ****** up this year and we're going to fix it starting now" but, you know, that'll never happen in a million years.  ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 12, 2012, 10:05 AM
Showing all this great new stuff for the SW line is all well and good, but having it in a display case is one thing; actually, you know, sending it to stores so people can buy it is another.  The only way I'm going to be excited about them is if Hasbro says, "Yeah, we're fully aware of how badly we've ****** up this year and we're going to fix it starting now" but, you know, that'll never happen in a million years.  ::)

You're so right. All I can think about is that shiny new Mando Transport they showed off so proudly in their display case last year. Who knew then that would turn out to be the Mother of all boondoggles?

The thing is, they've screwed up so badly to this point that I think the situation is now beyond their control to fix. For example, they have NO leverage to compell Walmart to "un-delete" that Class II SKU. That ship has sailed, and the Naboo Fighter is the toy that ends up paying the price. K-Marts are closing left and right, TRU is struggling badly and can't even seem to dump the SOTDS crud from last year. It's nice that they're getting some cool new exclusives, but the 3 stores around me have not stocked any TVC figures past Wave 1. EVER.

I just don't think, given Hasbro's track record and leading economic indicators, that the big box stores like Target and Walmart are going to get on board like they used to. The only thing I can see helping is some sort of "mass cull" by the Hasbro reps like they used to do, going store to store and pulling all that junk from the aisles, and then offering Wally and Target a sweet discount to load up up the new stuff.

Short of that, I don't see anything primed to break through the logjam.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 12, 2012, 11:13 AM
They really need to start getting on board with making assortments and case-packs that are online friendly.

Figures need to be packed at 2+ of each new figure in the wave per case.

Vehicles - well the Naboo Fighter is the only NEW vehicle in the Class II assortment - they should be making available cases that are just 3x the Naboo Starfighter. That way, online retailers can easily offer for sale, just that vehicle.

Sure, go ahead and let them still sell a case of all three Wave 2 vehicles for someone who wants the repaints.

The days of catering to the "casual shopper" at the brick-and-mortar stores with mixed assortments are gone. Time for Hasbro to wake up to that fact. Start offering cases that collectors want to buy and save what collector base you still have, while you still can.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: CHEWIE on July 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
A another barely articulated Battle Droid that (explodes?) splits in two! (how many crappy new battle droid sculpts do the need?)

I kinda like the Battle Droid,but I know a lot of people may be sick of them.  To me it looks like the best tan Battle Droid since the ROTS one in 2005 - thought I know it's not very articulated.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Greg on July 12, 2012, 02:10 PM
I was bummed that Hasbro had barely any new items (what, two Movie Heroes?) in their displays last night. If I remember correctly from previous years, we would get to see a few new things on preview night and then the rest of the new stuff would be unveiled during the presentation. So far the best things shown during SDCC were mistakes (Luminara), absent from the actual show (new carded TVC images), or not meant to be seen (AT-ST and Ewok sets). 

A another barely articulated Battle Droid that (explodes?) splits in two! (how many crappy new battle droid sculpts do the need?)

I kinda like the Battle Droid,but I know a lot of people may be sick of them.  To me it looks like the best tan Battle Droid since the ROTS one in 2005 - thought I know it's not very articulated.

You aren't the only one who likes the Battle Droid! The sculpt looks great, and the exploding feature appears to be well done and somewhat sturdy. Knee and elbow articulation would be nice but it isn't a deal breaker. I'll take whatever variety I can get for my droid army.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rob on July 12, 2012, 03:11 PM
Showing all this great new stuff for the SW line is all well and good, but having it in a display case is one thing; actually, you know, sending it to stores so people can buy it is another. 

Am I missing something?  I haven't seen hardly any new SW stuff yet.  A couple of 3 packs and a ton of product that we've already gotten is all I've seen so far.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: CHEWIE on July 12, 2012, 03:37 PM
You aren't the only one who likes the Battle Droid! The sculpt looks great, and the exploding feature appears to be well done and somewhat sturdy. Knee and elbow articulation would be nice but it isn't a deal breaker. I'll take whatever variety I can get for my droid army.

Good to hear!

I'd like to get around a dozen of these, for a specific scene.  Maybe standing in front of the MTT or something preparing to get blown to pieces by some clones or something. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 12, 2012, 04:23 PM
wonder if these will be in scale? (http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=view&album=2012_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FNeca%2FDay_1%2F&pic=IMG_0427.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20)

(picture changed to a link since TNI does not allow hot-linking of images - Jeff)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 12, 2012, 04:29 PM
Am I missing something?  I haven't seen hardly any new SW stuff yet.  A couple of 3 packs and a ton of product that we've already gotten is all I've seen so far.

It was more of a general statement about displaying supposedly upcoming product at these shows than referring to anything specifically "new" being shown. My point being that, while displays are nice, the point of making products like these is to actually sell them, which Hasbro seems to not be too interested in this year, going by the state of retail.

Although, Rob, since I haven't seen anything past the single case one local Walmart got back in February, everything in that case is new to me (and a lot of other people, I'm sure, would agree).
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 12, 2012, 05:25 PM
wonder if these will be in scale? (http://i.toynewsi.com/g/generated/2012_San_Diego_Comic_Con/Neca/Day_1//IMG_0427__scaled_600.jpg)

(picture changed to a link since TNI does not allow hot-linking of images - Jeff)

Link doesn't work?

What is it?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 12, 2012, 05:39 PM
they are very small ET figures

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=view&album=2012_San_Diego_Comic_Con%2FNeca%2FDay_1%2F&pic=IMG_0427.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on July 12, 2012, 06:01 PM
I thought that at Toy Fair...

ET Wave 2 (http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=view&album=2012_Toy_Fair%2FNECA%2F&pic=IMG_8711.jpg&dispsize=800&start=20)

Those are 6" in the front...3-3/4" in the back?

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Matt R. on July 13, 2012, 03:23 AM
In that pic of the Ewok Walker jackers, under them it looks like a Tie Pilot, Anakin, Green AOTC Clone, a droid, and it looks like Pablo Jill.  I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2012, 08:28 AM
So...who's live streaming the Hasbro presentation this morning/afternoon?

And is it 11am EST or PST?

TIA~
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on July 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
The figures that were there were disappointing. My son was pretty geeked on the transformer stuff. He wanted to buy them. We spent alot of time over at the lego area. We made three landspeeders and about a dozen tiles for the board. Some of the card and dice games were fun. It was amazing the massive number of people there. We spent alot of time over in the vendor areas too. It was amazing how many vendors had the target three packs for at least $35. I didn't get the carbonite set from Hasbro. It seemed you needed a ticket to buy them but the tickets were gone by 8:30. Well that saved me $86. Someone wanted to scalp me a ticket for $20 though.  :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
So...who's live streaming the Hasbro presentation this morning/afternoon?

And is it 11am EST or PST?

It should be 11am Pacific.

As for streaming, I think SWAN (http://www.swactionnews.com/) usually streams those, but there may be others out there as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 02:26 PM
Check our front page NOW.  We're live-posting answers as they come in.

http://www.jedidefender.com/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1342202889,33133,

Keep Refreshing for details as I update it as fast as I am able to.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on July 13, 2012, 02:28 PM
What do they mean the TPM stuff did well? What are they smoking?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Matt on July 13, 2012, 02:41 PM
Most of the world's whiniest bitches have assembled together and are currently commenting on the SWAN live stream.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: DoctorPadawan on July 13, 2012, 02:50 PM
So, I was following GH's live tweeting of the Hasbro presentation/Q&A and, from the way it sounded, this year's dismal distribution issues weren't addressed at all.  Seriously?  People ask about the possibility of vintage-style prequel figures for the millionth time, but NOBODY addresses the elephant bantha in the room?

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 13, 2012, 02:52 PM
And no one asked about the future of the Clone Wars line?!?! WTF? JUST ASK THEM ALREADY.

And WTF is Krell?!?!

And what is the 19th carded Clone Wars figrue for 2012?

I mean, seriously!
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Phrubruh on July 13, 2012, 02:55 PM
So what did they say about fixing distribution? Anyone bring a noose?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 02:59 PM
Distribution was never brought up in the Q&A, at all.  Whoever was there didn't ask I guess.  It was short but some info was out.  They do wanna get the Mando shuttle out.  Our revised list is posted on the front page though till more info possibly trickles in.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 13, 2012, 03:02 PM
wow that sucked.  All the figures look "new enough to make you mad" and their droids that accompany them look cool.  Oh well, only 30 figures for the year, shouldn't hurt the wallet too much.

I wonder how much Jocasta will cost?  Never ordered from Brian's cuz I know their prices are high.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 13, 2012, 03:03 PM
Why didn't anyone ask about distribution? Was that a room full of people who are always able to find what they need or something?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 13, 2012, 03:14 PM
Galactichunter just confirmed Spider-Maul for later this year
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rune Haako on July 13, 2012, 03:18 PM
Realistic or Clone Wars?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2012, 03:49 PM
Some other interesting notes/thoughts from the presentation -

- Were there no Walmart exclusives shown for the Fall?  I guess having to clearance out all that "great selling" TPM Discover the Force stuff maybe soured them on excluisves for a while? :P

- No Celebration 6 exclusive?  Wow.  Sort of makes me wonder if there were plans for maybe Jocasta to be the C6 exclusive that crumbled and caused her to get dumped at Brian's Toys instead maybe?  Or maybe they just didn't want the hassle of selling something at that show?  Strange to have nothing from Hasbro, but my wallet is happy about it I guess.

- Where are Yakface/ReeYees?  Didn't the Q&A confirm one or both of them for 2012?  Did they maybe hold them back for some sort of 2013 ROTJ 30th anniversary thing or something? :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jayson on July 13, 2012, 03:54 PM
Galactichunter just confirmed Spider-Maul for later this year

Update: GH Correction no Spider Maul for 2012 - spider version too big.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rune Haako on July 13, 2012, 04:01 PM
Maybe Wal-Mart will have an AOTC 3D B.A.D. wave as an exclusive, and they just didn't reveal it yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: SnTrooper on July 13, 2012, 04:26 PM
I would say the lack of Wal-Mart exclusives means they either didn't want any because DTF wasn't as good as they hoped or they are waiting to show a new line of DTF for AOTC3D at CIV.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rune Haako on July 13, 2012, 04:39 PM
Some great pics here,

http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/index.php/2012/07/13/sdcc-2012-hasbro-star-wars/
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 13, 2012, 04:43 PM
I can totally skip Jocasta Nu.

So what about that Yoda themed packaging...Movie Heroes?

Was droid factory the supposed new 3 3/4" segment?

Maul pack december release...yeesh...

Where's that dumb new vehicle construction line or did they wise up and #%$% can it before release?

New 12" figures....they love to waste tooling...what, someone saw Gentle Giant's 12" retro stuff had a following, so let's make prequel stuff like that for mass release.

With vintage going away, hopes for reissues of hard to find vintage releases go with them. No echo bases troopers for me!
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 13, 2012, 04:50 PM
New 12" figures....they love to waste tooling...what, someone saw Gentle Giant's 12" retro stuff had a following, so let's make prequel stuff like that for mass release.

Oh yeah, that has a "me too!" cash grab written all over it based on how well GG is doing with the Kenner stuff.  They'll probably be a heck of a lot cheaper than the GG 12"ers, but I can't see these really being all that popular with the folks who are buying the GG Kenner versions.  :-X
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2012, 04:55 PM
That's something I was wondering about, is Droid Factory the only line for 2013?  That's fine with me (although sad for CW, if that's done), as I've always hoped for a consolidation of things.  If so, that means approx. 40 figures for 2013, which feels about right I think.  Plenty AOTC heavy (so I guess they must be moving forward with AOTC 3D, although they haven't announced it yet), but that is expected.  Not a ton of stuff shown, but we do have more shows coming up too.

As for what we did see, it all looks pretty good.  I'm happy to see BAD come back (especially if TVC does need to go away).  The figures shown look very nice, and I'll likely pick up most to all of them, but this really did sort of feel like been there done that.  Again, they look great, but for the basic line is there a single character we hadn't already gotten a pretty decent version of before?  These are better, and I can understand the focus on AOTC, but I guess there wasn't any basic figures in particular that made me go "finally, can't wait for that one".  That said, I usually try to stay positive about this stuff, so I am looking forward to them.  I do hope we're not in for another Movie Heroes line alongside this though.  I think Star Wars could use a simpler approach, and if this is it for the year, that is ok with me.  Surprised no one at the Q and A asked about the fate of CW or MH, etc. though.

As far as exclusives, those are pretty great I think.  I'm already going to have to ask for help with those K-Mart two packs, as we really don't have one in the area here and they look spiffy.  I can't wait for that Speeder Bike, as well as the TRU packs we saw awhile back.  I'm not a boxed collector, but I'm stupid enough to at least have a passing thought about picking up another Falcon just for that box.  I won't most likely (can't afford it/space), but I'm at least tempted.  What happened to the rumored Slave 1?  Maybe more to announce later at other cons, but if that is indeed coming too, TRU is getting a landslide of SW for the holidays this year (multi packs, Speeder Bike, Falcon, AT-AT, and possibly Slave 1).  That's a lot of "big" stuff.  Weird that the MTT wasn't shown, although I guess they are looking ahead more with that presentation.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 04:59 PM
I think repacking HTF will continue.  No reason not to think that way...  They love to fill a wave out like that if they can.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 13, 2012, 05:07 PM
Hopefully. Wave 1 will be solid "new" figures, though. 

Movie Heroes  or some equivalent has to be returning...there's some AOTC stuff in those BAD  waves, but they'll still milk it more. They'll want a basic phase 1 clone back on pegs, along with Jango Fett, Yoda, super battle droid, destroyer droid, Obi-Wan...

Also, reissued vehicles.

Lot more to reveal for 2013, even if it's not great stuff.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 13, 2012, 05:22 PM
I really can't believe there's more sandtroopers and clones coming out...WTF?

And I can't really support that Brian's Toys exclusive. Those guys are scalpers, and I won't give them my money.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Greedo The Green Menace on July 13, 2012, 05:37 PM
Yeah, these are nice, but theres not really a lot here that screams WOW to me. I don't really see anything new here, a lot of redoes that had a version not all that long ago, and lots of trooper repaints. Kind of ho hum, but the new droids are definitely nice. Here's hoping they're saving somthing nice for C6, I'm really hoping for a new Cantina dude or two, and maybe a Jabba goon. Maybe wave 3. The exclusives however are all rather excellent, especially the Ewok hoards.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 13, 2012, 06:14 PM
So Movie Heroes AND Clone Wars are both continuing...

Wonder what these lines will ultimately have?  They didn't even make the slideshow at all.  You'd think as a line presentation you'd slip in at least that they're continuing.  We got confirmation from Hasbro though that neither is going away.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediMoses on July 13, 2012, 08:18 PM
When are the site Q and As?  Seems to me that there are lots of questions that could have been asked and were not.  Especially about MH and CW, CW more from my perspective.  I wonder if they are going to squeeze in another Vintage assortment at the end to get those hard to find figs out.  Seems like a lot of retail space to fill between now and Spring 2013.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Brian on July 13, 2012, 08:50 PM
So Movie Heroes AND Clone Wars are both continuing...

Wonder what these lines will ultimately have?  They didn't even make the slideshow at all.  You'd think as a line presentation you'd slip in at least that they're continuing.  We got confirmation from Hasbro though that neither is going away.

Although that is good for CW, it is sort of disappointing that we're going to see the continued deluge of SW stuff at retail.  I really feel like it is starting to hurt the line (although the figure choices have a lot to do with that too).  I was hoping BAD would be "the" line in 2013, weird that they didn't even have a slide for CW or MH.  It makes sense though, since with the AOTC push it would be weird not to see Jango, Obi-Wan, Dooku, etc.  In a year of strange moves, the presentation at SDCC seems like yet another one.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Darby on July 13, 2012, 09:01 PM
So I found Tarkin last week and I had this moment. I kind of felt like, 'Wow! What more do I really want?'

The only thing I ever really wanted that I don't have after 30 years are the Ewoks that jack the AT-ST and here they are. I saw them and I had another moment. 'Done.' If it ended tomorrow, or even if it didn't, there's very little else to keep me engaged. The Droid Factory stuff is nice, but it's clear that CW is evaporating into this line, and what we are getting is largely revisiting old ground. There's no 'new' and that is a problem for SW as a whole. I doubt I will ever abandon it completely (there's always something) but I think I am stepping away at the end of the year.

Anyone else feel this way?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 13, 2012, 09:23 PM
I'll say that the average wave of vintage had more "gotta have it" figures than either of the announced Droid Factory waves.

I see getting Padme and Biker scout if it's actually new...which it don't look like. Maybe the Geonosian if they made a new head.

Wave 2, Mara Jade if she's good...uh...Biggs if he's good (not another Luke body). A-Wing pilot if its the Sullastan (or that old woman...haw!).

20 figures + 4 BADS, the only one on my wishlist is FA-4...

Price also has a lot to do with that. I like BAD's, but I think I completed like 2 during its original run. The rest were franken-droids.




Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 13, 2012, 10:22 PM
This is the bad thing about B-A-D.  If you don't want half of the figures to get the damn droid it sucks.  Or in this case I wonder if I will ever see the entire wave to even have a shot at getting them to begin with.  Luckily I can live without the droids they have shown so far.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: P-Siddy on July 13, 2012, 10:28 PM
Yeah, nothing too exciting in the reveals for figures.  I think I'm only interested in FA-4 and he's a BAD
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2012, 11:06 PM
Has there been any word on MSRP?  If the Vintage Collection is ending, it'd be nice to see them drop a dollar or three off the price.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediMoses on July 13, 2012, 11:39 PM
The images suggest a $9.99 msrp
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Rob on July 13, 2012, 11:50 PM
Wow... I was not paying any attention to the placards... dumb question.  Thanks.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: EpicGon on July 14, 2012, 12:02 AM
Seems the 2013 biker scout would have longer legs than current tsc version (retooled and repacked)

Padme sculpt is great, specially her head... I hope HASBRO could achieve so detail for a better slave Leia or Endor Rebel General Leia.

The 2013 tie pilot looks the same mold of death star cardstock rotj pack, only the helmet paint applications are varying, like those small silver lines on the forehead.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jeff on July 14, 2012, 12:49 AM
weird that they didn't even have a slide for CW or MH.

Again, at the start of the presentation, whoever was talking said they were only focusing on "NEW" stuff in the presentation.  They said that since everything for regular retail for MH and CW for 2012 was shown at Toy Fair or in the booth on Wed/Thurs (like new MH Boba Fett or Battle Droid, and CW Fox) they were skipping it in the presentation in order to focus on 2013 and Fall 2012 exclusives.  That is why there were no slides or no mention of them, no recap of the lumat/nien nunb waves, etc. 

When are the site Q and As? 

They were after the presentation, like 1-2pm I think.  With only ten minutes per site, I doubt you will see very involved Q&A type things posted from most places.  I'm sure the info from them will make it's way out as news over the next day or so. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 14, 2012, 01:22 AM
Our Q&A is getting transcribed but bear in mind our person doing it was also there on his dime, and his time, trying to enjoy the show...  I'll probably wind up with it tomorrow.

Good point on the MH/CW Jeff.  I'd not seen/heard any of that.  Makes sense if it's old, no sense to retread.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Matt R. on July 14, 2012, 02:55 AM
I wonder what they will shown at CVI.  Droid Factory Wave 2 ?, The Rest of CW ?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2012, 12:05 AM

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Hasbro gave all the sites they maintain a relationship with a chance at 10 minute scheduled interviews during Comic-Con this year. We asked one of our friends to handle our interview for us, and he passed along the full details to us today! Read on for the questions we were able to get answered by the Hasbro staff at the show.

We asked our friend and forumite Darth_Anton if he'd take the time to handle our Q&A while he was attending Comic-Con and he happily obliged. We owe him a big thanks for taking the time out of his own convention-going to do this for us!

The three Hasbro personnel on hand to handle the Q&A were Daryl DePriest, Jeff Labovitz, & Brian Merto. We'd also like to thank them for taking the time out of their busy schedules for one-on-one interviews with the sites.

Read the full interview transcribed below:

7/13/12 interview with: Daryl DePriest, Jeff Labovitz, Brian Merto

Q: What’s the big change for 2013 and the direction? Because you guys are coming from having three different 3 ѕ lines, three different classes of vehicles, battle packs and all kinds of exclusives, are you going to stick to the same theme or is something going to be dropped?

Jeff: For 2013 versus 2012, the only thing that is changing is the battle packs, at least in the main line aren’t planned. But, other than that, it’s still the same love for the 3 ѕ”. There will be the movie heroes line, the Clone Wars and the new droid factory line. We’ll have the same vehicles assortments, the class 1 and class 2. Role-play and everything else.

Daryl: Will the vintage vehicles carry on, Jeff, or are we dropping them?

Jeff: In the main line, they have been dropped. So that is a change but, there’s still potential for exclusives.

Q: But, there will still be OT themed and PT themed vehicles?

Jeff: Yes, absolutely.

Q: A new Tie Fighter or something?

(Brian laughs)

Jeff: Same vehicles assortments are planned. Class 1 and Class 2, both the original trilogy aswell as prequel.

Q: No Class 3. No biggies next year?

Jeff: No biggies planed for 2013. The MTT’s rolling out now, about to hit shelves. And truthfully, the performance of that, in large part, will dictate how much support we can provide for those very expensive vehicles for the future.

Brian: (Having seen my Imperial army) So we hope you’ll buy three.

Q: The other two did really well. Everybody loves the AT-AT and the Millennium Falcon. I would hope that one hiccup doesn’t kill it for anything else like a new shuttle or a new sail barge...

(Laughter)

Jeff: There could be a Sail Barge, right.

Daryl: Beyond the iconic ones, some of the others can be a struggle to get to the numbers that we need for success on these because these cost A LOT to tool and develop.

Q: The price of the 12 inch?

Jeff: I gave a range because the suggested price hasn’t been set yet, but directionally, $12.99, $14.99. We wanted to communicate that it’s not going to be a high priced, highly articulated figure. These are for kids. 5-point articulation. The accessories, except for the lightsaber blade, are molded to the hand, so they’re not removable.

Daryl: It really celebrates “the toy” of Star Wars.

Q: So you could throw them around and not break stuff. With the heavy amount of Attack of the Clones coming out in 2013, I would assume that it’s coinciding with a special 3D release?

Jeff: Nothing’s been formally announced. We’d love to see that, we would love to see all of them come out over the next few years. Next year, we can say we do have some Attack of the
Clones product, but we also have some product that runs across the full line, all six movies plus the EU and especially Clones Wars.

Daryl: Any entertainment news is going to be released by Lucasfilm.

Q: Any thoughts on redoing a Snowspeeder with Wedge deco and a Snowspeeder Wedge?

Brian: Would make a great exclusive.

Daryl: That’s a great idea. Right now we don’t have a plan, but I would say, that’s a great idea.

Q: If you do go back to doing OT ships, are you going to do them less clean to give them that lived in look that we all know and love?

Brian: We do what we can.

Daryl: Deco is a big challenge for us. Because that’s a lot of human labor involved in all of that. And the more weathering you do, it drives the price way up, so we have to find the right balance.

Brian: We’re desperately trying to look out for efficiencies earlier on in the design process so that we can optimize the amount of Deco that goes on so that maybe something that was counted as a lot hits and very expensive gets pushed down to a lesser expense so we can afford to do some of the weathering. We constantly try to come up with new ways to do weathering that might be less costly. We realize there’s a cry for that.

Daryl: Are we doing to moss effect on the AT-ST, the Endor AT-AT?

Brian: Yes. What I did on the Endor AT-AT is, I took the labels off and that’s paint on there instead of those labels and the feet do have the two color mud, the same thing as the AT-ST. It has a bit of weathering on it. I generally have a little bit more leeway with the exclusives so I can get away with a little bit more.

Q: Going back to the OT characters, characters that you’ve designed that many consider definitive, like VOTC Han, if you guys revisit that, what new can you do? Or is that something that you would just repack?

(Daryl does a jig, laughter)

Brian: We always see new reference. Lucasfilm sometimes provides new reference. There may be a really important facial expression like, you just mentioned Han, but on a... my mind’s
blanking... a smile of a...

Daryl: Luke?

Brian: No. (laughs)

Jeff: Luke, Chewie, 3PO…

Brian: The green guy in the…

Jeff/Daryl/Anthony: Greedo.

Brian: No, no, no. The Jedi.

Anthony: Oh, Kit Fisto.

Brian: Kit Fisto! We’ve never done him smiling.

Daryl: No?

Brian: No, we haven’t. So that is something that we could do that is actually meaningful.

Daryl: We tried, not quite got to the level that we want.

Q: Not like smiling Luke?

Daryl: Hopefully, not like smiling Luke.

Q: Any thoughts on revisiting the 2D Clone Wars, the Tartakovsky stuff? In my opinion, when those came out, those were great.

(Two minute warning.)

Daryl: We loved it too. Very fertile hunting ground. While Lucasfilm is producing the amazing series that they’re producing, that’s where we’ve agreed that the focus will be, so no plans to go after any more Genndy figures right now. That’s not to say that they couldn’t be part of a fan vote or anything like that. We’re working on the main Clone Wars series right now. That’s our focus.

Q: (Having heard the question asked multiple times.) You’re going to have to repeat this but, the whole distribution issue… That’s what everybody’s asking about because everybody, including myself, is very frustrated. I’m very frustrated because I can’t find the figures.

Jeff: We understand the frustration. We have some frustration about it as well. So far in advance of the product hitting shelf, we plan on how we organize our lines and what types of volumes. So with Episode 1, we wanted to ensure a very strong support for the movie. We released a lot of figures and there has been a bit of slow down some at retail... the figures have been backing up a bit.

The good news is, the new waves are starting to hit now, and what we’re trying to do is leave room for us in the future, perhaps with vintage, not in main line, but being able to do it through exclusives... is to find figures that have been in short supply and find ways of getting them back out there. Maybe not in 2013 and maybe not 2014, although it could be, finding ways to get them back out into circulation, the figures that weren’t able to hit this time around.

Q: Thank you.

We'd like to thank the Hasbro team and Darth_Anton again for handling the Q&A at the show for us. It was appreciated and we hope to hear more soon from Hasbro at Celebration VI
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 12:11 AM
The key I guess is whether or not they're actually going to try to do something about their "frustration"....

Doesn't sound like it will be anything this calendar year though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: McMetal on July 15, 2012, 10:55 AM
Good stuff, thanks for working on that guys.

I am confused though - I could have SWORN that GH was reporting that the Class II series was completely dead. Like, formally discontinued after the Naboo fighter. But this Q&A makes it seems like that series will continue.

I really hope so, because I still hold out hope for the Transdoshan skiff and Trident Drill Squid ship, and other cool rumored stuff like that in the future.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on July 15, 2012, 12:33 PM
Thanks for posting the Q&A, the guys seem genuinely nice but like they are stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to answer questions - they very rarely can come out and give full answers. It's true that they have to balance what they want with what is economically feasible but they (hasbro) deside to make minimally articulated large figures that no one wants.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2012, 01:24 PM
The Class II Vintage packaged vehicles are dead at retail but will still be offered as exclusives (potentially)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2012, 02:05 PM
The 12" figures aren't wanted here...  As usual it's a case of Hasbro trying to make something specific for kids (and MAYBE attempting to capture some random GG Jumbo dollars).  A large, and I'd say insanely cheaply made if it's $15 or less, figure with minimum articulation and gear molded to its hand so it doesn't get lost...

That's just not made for us.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 02:59 PM
That's just not made for us.

I'm not sure WHO they are made for. The five year old kid in me screams "lame!"

So once again, time will be spent on another sub-line that will be flooding the shelves and eventually hitting the clearance aisle just like all of the other non-3.75" formats that have come since they shut down the 12" line being a regular thing....
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediJman on July 15, 2012, 03:43 PM
The 12" line just speaks volumes about how profit is job #1 right now. They copy a much better collector line from another company, but position it for kids despite the lack of any play value.  I might have even considered a few of these to go with my vintage ones (Jango Fett, vinyl cape Maul, some of the bounty hunters, etc.  But with the weapons molded on, these are practically statues.  Lame.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 04:40 PM
First off - let me just say - kudos to Darth_Anton for handling the 10 minute Q&A session. I just want to get that out of the way first.

Now - I'm going to ask a question - and I'm sure it's not going to make me very popular, but I gotta say it...

Why does it feel to me like the Hasbro team "got off easy" with regards to being asked the really tough questions? (both during the panel and in the 10 minute site Q&A sessions)

What do they mean by "the new waves are starting to hit now"? Is there a magical place that is receiving new cases regularly that I don't know about?

And does "and what we’re trying to do is leave room for us in the future, perhaps with vintage, not in main line, but being able to do it through exclusives... is to find figures that have been in short supply and find ways of getting them back out there. Maybe not in 2013 and maybe not 2014, although it could be, finding ways to get them back out into circulation, the figures that weren’t able to hit this time around"...

...mean that NOTHING is being done to fix the distribution issues before the Vintage line comes to an end at the close of this year?

I read that answer as if they're saying "we know figures like Shae Vizla, Malgus, Kithaba, etc... are popular, but they aren't going to be in circulation in the line again this year, if you miss them you're beat".

I get it - if you come across as confrontational it will be the last time you get the opportunity to ask questions, but there has to be a difference between asking the tough question and being confrontational.

Please know that I am not speaking about anyone here or on any other site specifically, this is more of an "on the whole" observation and it is born purely out of the frustration I have continued to feel this year trying to keep up with collecting this line.

(hoping this post doesn't get me banned)
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scott on July 15, 2012, 05:03 PM
Don't worry about getting banned  :P

FYI We put the questions together, DA asked them. 

I will say that in general our relationship with Hasbro has always been one of mutual respect and we have always tried in general to emulate the same tone of the old Collectstarwars where many of us came from.  We aren't afraid to call a spade a spade but haven't in general participated in the "Hasblow Sux" mentality that some other sites project.

I also think it would have been tough for DA to editorialize on the spot and ask clarifyers or follow ups based on elusive and slippery answers being given.  Hopefully the same thing happens at C6 where more of us will be there.

Thanks again to Darth Anton for doing this
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 15, 2012, 05:53 PM
It was very tough for DA because 10 minutes is shorter than you imagine it to be when you're doing an interview like that...  We figured a set # of Q's and tried to leave him some wiggle room to ask his own Q's, or to ask ours his own way sort of, since it was his time.  I think he did a nice job...  Some of our Q's didn't even get asked/answered, and some the "point" of the Q was missed and glossed over completely.

On the Hasbro answer on distribution, I got out of that, that HTF stuff this year isn't likely to be repacked into the new look, but that they are leaving room to offer them in an exclusive format if possible...  It also doesn't mean it won't find its way out some other way.  Shae Vizla really just started shipping, and there's a bit of year left, so it's early to hit the panic button there.  Others, time's running out but I think there's some hope they'll be available again, but maybe not in next year's main line.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Sprry75 on July 15, 2012, 06:08 PM
Hasblow sux.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: shmashwitdaclub on July 15, 2012, 08:20 PM
any news on what day/time the SDCC stuff will be for sale on HTS?
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
Thanks Jesse and Scott...

I definitely don't want anyone to think I'm suggesting that I would be satisfied with anyone going in "guns blazing" screaming the battle cry "Hasbro Sucks!"

Quite the contrary.

Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Darth_Anton on July 16, 2012, 09:37 AM
I have to say, the time went by very fast. I really wanted to get to the other questions, because they were great, but I didn't anticipate the forum of the interview, which was in the middle of the floor, and the genuine enthusiasm from the guys while we were talking. I really wish you could see their faces because, with the exception of the distribution question, they seemed to be having a lot of fun with it.

I consciously moved the distribution question from the top of the list to the bottom and I think it set a nice tone, because as soon as I broached the subject, the mood changed. It was certainly their most prepared answer and I wish I had more time for follow up. However, I hope by piecing together similar interactions, we can get a more telling picture.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Jesse James on July 19, 2012, 02:05 AM
I can't recall if Hasbro had said they weren't doing one for sure or not, but I have to say I was a little disappointed to see there was no mail-away planned for this year as well...

I was overall pleased with SDCC, but there were a few things kind of bummed me out too.  This being one of them.  It was up there with no C6 exclusive figure (I really hoped for funeral pyre Vader).

I loved the mail-aways though...  I love getting stuff in the mail I guess.  I don't know why.  I blame a lot of this on the constant brow-beating Hasbro took over damaged cards for these programs.  I think they felt it was becoming too cost-prohibitive in the long run.  :-\
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2012, 07:54 AM
That and the fiasco over which UPCs people could use.  I cant believe how much that blew up in their face despite the best of intentions. I'm sure they just decided it wasnt worth the hassle.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: TheSon on July 19, 2012, 04:43 PM
I wonder if the Jocasta figure was originally slated as a mail way before they canned the idea. It seems to fit like it was.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Pete_Fett on July 19, 2012, 05:21 PM
I wonder if the Jocasta figure was originally slated as a mail way before they canned the idea. It seems to fit like it was.

Whether it be a mail-away, a Celebration VI exclusive that Hasbro Toy Shop walked away from, or some other online retailer exclusive, I would bet my life that their first choice wasn't to have Brian's Toys carry it....

 :-X
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: speedermike on July 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
The 12" line just speaks volumes about how profit is job #1 right now. They copy a much better collector line from another company, but position it for kids despite the lack of any play value.  I might have even considered a few of these to go with my vintage ones (Jango Fett, vinyl cape Maul, some of the bounty hunters, etc.  But with the weapons molded on, these are practically statues.  Lame.

Profit is always #1.  Hasbro is a business.  That's no surprise.  What is, though, is their inability to actually get the stuff that people want into their hands.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Captain Piet on July 19, 2012, 08:30 PM
I'm pretty pissed about this one, just because it seems the only crack I'll get at the Jarbonite.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Mister Skeezler on July 19, 2012, 10:26 PM
The 12" line just speaks volumes about how profit is job #1 right now. They copy a much better collector line from another company, but position it for kids despite the lack of any play value.  I might have even considered a few of these to go with my vintage ones (Jango Fett, vinyl cape Maul, some of the bounty hunters, etc.  But with the weapons molded on, these are practically statues.  Lame.

Profit is always #1.  Hasbro is a business.  That's no surprise.  What is, though, is their inability to actually get the stuff that people want into their hands.

Ugh, they had no problem getting TPM figures into my hands. So much so, that they keep trying to get those things into my hands...over and over.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediJman on July 19, 2012, 10:46 PM
I wonder if the Jocasta figure was originally slated as a mail way before they canned the idea. It seems to fit like it was.

We'll probably never know, but I think it was likely the Celebration VI exclusive.  Packaging seems a little too nice and too many accessories to have been the mail away.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: Scockery on July 19, 2012, 11:01 PM
Too limited appeal for mail-away...remember they acted like Sgt. Brick didn't do well enough, kinda doubt they'd have promoted some old librarian to general audiences as a mail-in.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: darth broem 2 on July 19, 2012, 11:25 PM
It screams Celebration exclusive to me.  What is amazing is they had all this time to get an exclusive for it and could not deliver on one.  It's very strange.  Yeah, there is no way it was going to Brian's Toys.  I would think Entertainment Earth would get it before Brian's Toys would.  Good score for them though. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: TheSon on July 19, 2012, 11:28 PM
Too limited appeal for mail-away...remember they acted like Sgt. Brick didn't do well enough, kinda doubt they'd have promoted some old librarian to general audiences as a mail-in.

It wasn't that long ago that we got Qui-Gon and Eopie as a mail away. I am sure that was more plastic than what we are getting for three times the price with Jocasta. And no matter what they are trying to say about Bric, they did have to produce more to fill all the orders.

I ordered a Jocasta, not because I am dying to have one, but because I like the possibility of having other figures that a portion of the collectors' world wants but the general public would never support.
Title: Re: SDCC 2012
Post by: JediJman on July 20, 2012, 08:51 AM
I fogot about the Eopie.  Good call.