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Title: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 3, 2003, 11:15 PM
Yes, I know, the last 17 vintage figures made, but specifically what are they.  Not like I would expect to be lied to on ebay or anything like that.   ::)

Currently these are the figures listed as "last 17" in the titles on ebay:

Anakin
EV-9D9
A-wing pilot
Imperial Dignitary
Lando General
Luke Battle Poncho (Endor)
Romba
Warok
Yakface
Lumat
R2-D2 with pop up light saber
Han Solo Carbonite
Luke Stormtrooper
Imperial Gunner
Barada
Amanaman
Paploo?

Is that correct?  Some seem relatively "common" on ebay

And while we're at it, what are good prices for each?  Do we have a price guide here?
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 4, 2003, 10:25 AM
Yep, those are the last 17. A good discussion was on RS on why they are called the last 17.

When did the term of the last 17 figures come in to play? (http://forums.rebelscum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007167#000000)

As for what are good prices for each, depends if you want carded or loose & also depends on what you want to spend. Carded will run some major bucks as loose will not be that high.

Eg: Yak Face loose, $80.+ & POTF carded, a few grand or like this example, VINTAGE POTF YAK FACE MOC MOMC (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3150824656&category=52335)

Anakin: loose, $13. & POTF carded, again major bucks.

You can find Trilogo ones for a fair cost like Anakin, Tri Logo Anakin (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3151125343&category=50274)

Luke Stormtrooper, loose $80. + & carded, Trilogo, $200.+ ROTJ trilogo LUKE Imperal Stormtrooper (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3150402865&category=751) POTF, $200. + 1984 POTF MOC UNPUNCHED LUKE STORMTROOPER (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3151313736&category=50271)

Best to do alittle research on completed on eBay to see what they go for as they will vary from time to time. Who knows, you may luck in on a bargin!  ;)

Here's the old search page I use.

eBay Find Items (http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search-old.html)
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 4, 2003, 02:02 PM
Thanks Dale.

sorry, I should have stated loose.  I probably would grab the cheaper ones on trilogo cards, seeing as I have one to start down that dark path already....

I think I have a pretty good idea of stuff already just from watching the forums and ebay...

Annoyingly expensive:
Luke Stormtrooper
Amanaman (won an auction for $52 but reserve not met >:()
EV-9D9
Yakface

The rest seem only moderately expensive, $50 or less loose.  

These are the ones I don't come across very often:
Barada
Han Carbonite
Luke Poncho
R2 with saber

That leaves the rest that I see fairly frequently, sometimes in lots.
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: E.Z. on November 4, 2003, 02:45 PM
Yup those are the tough ones. I'm about half way there on the last 17. Anakin is the easiest by far. I'd say Yak is the most expensive followed by Luke Stormie. Luckily I got the Yak but the Luke is tough to find because of the helmet missing on so many of them.

Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 4, 2003, 10:09 PM
R2 with saber can run around $75.+ same with Han Carbonite. Sometimes tricky to find the saber for R2 & a real one. Lot's of repros out there. Luke Stormie helmet is another one that can be made.

Also be warned that there are repro figures out in the market. Yak Face has been floating around & even the Blue Snaggletooth are being made. :-\

EV-9D9 is known to have a loose arm. Nothing annoying than to get a nice one & his arm falls off.  :o
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 4, 2003, 11:00 PM
Thanks for that too.

I've seen numerous auctions for EV-9D9 with one arm, so I'm ready for that possibility.  Hoping to sneak one in a lot.  Same too for blue Snags.  A little scuffing isn't always a bad thing.  Yakface is bound to be last on my list :(

I'm not too opposed to repro's if it will save me some money, though all original is better.  

I've seen Luke repro helmets on ebay for BIN of $15 so that is tempting too.  I know, not quite the purist, but for the time being, then upgrade down the road.  

This will take a considerable period of time to complete, I see that quite clearly.  I just wish I was having the luck that someone else around here has demonstrated, though my effort has not been comparable in hunting.  Vinty's will start up seriously for me again some time around March.  I think of summer as vintage hunting season :P
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 4, 2003, 11:16 PM
Was this a good price or bad price? (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3152692848&category=50271)

I did not bid, not the right time for me to do so, but it was tempting.  A nice, nm-mint complete fig, essentially loose but coin too.
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 5, 2003, 08:36 AM
I would say not too bad a price for a minty Luke Poncho. A loose one sold for $45. loose complete Luke Poncho (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3150957271&category=2475)  & a carded one sold for $45.99  LUKE IN BATTLE PONCHO (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3149890992&category=2475)

There was also a Trilogo on a cut card that went for $42.00  CUT CARD LUKE BATTLE PONCHO (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3151152837&category=2475)  

All in the timing!  ;)
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: E.Z. on November 6, 2003, 12:17 AM
I think that price is very good for a Luke Poncho MOC. Another figure with a tough to find weapon, so it's better to buy it on card and insure you get the real deal.

I bid $41 on the tri logo cut card and lost, so to get one with the coin for close to the same price would have been nice.
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on November 7, 2003, 12:00 AM
I agree with DSJ timing is a big part of the success in obtaining the last 17 at a reasonable price.  I saw a nice condition Carbonite Han sell for $35 the other day.  

I still need 13 of the last 17 to go and  I'm in no rush as I have better things to spend money on.  Patience is key as well.

Repro's are a matter of opinion I suppose, I for the record dont buy them as I think it hurts the hobby.  To me it's a simple as counterfit vs. non counterfit.

Try posting a want add on other boards as well as checking here from time to time.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&group=rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting.vintage

Good luck!


-Fish-
   
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 7, 2003, 11:24 AM
Thanks.

One of my grand plans has been ruined for these.  There are currently at least two EV-9D9's on ebay.  One without a left arm, the other without a right arm.  I was hoping to score both and build one complete version.  From the bidding, it looks like someone else has the same idea.  

Does this droid lose one arm more frequently than the other?  Or is it simply either/or?  
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on November 7, 2003, 03:33 PM
Funny you ask that, my droid has a loose left arm I believe.  I would assume that either one could go loose.  What are the auctions at$ ?


-Fish-
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 7, 2003, 11:28 PM
Right arm droid ends in about 20 minutes (sorry), currently at $22.  Left arm ends in about 2 days, still low.  search under star wars vintage last 17 and you'll see it.
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 9, 2003, 12:53 AM
Left arm droid ends Sunday.  


Missed an Anakin that sold at $12.50 today :'(  Playing with the kid. :)
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on November 12, 2003, 11:44 PM
nice way to fill a few holes (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3155410829&category=50281)
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: jokabofe on November 13, 2003, 12:22 AM
that's a nice lot to win... if only i had an extra $500 lying around the house... damn rent  >:(
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on November 13, 2003, 12:25 AM
Nice auction, but man was it difficult to follow the description.

I don't have money like that to spend all at one time.  Regarding spending time with the kid and missing the auction...

Glad to hear you were doing something positive with your child, there will be plenty of Anaking at that price.  I recall seeing one from a Tony the Toy Man end at $7.99 with no bidder.

BTW, I just got back from meeting Colman and your White Clones have been delivered.  Enjoy and thanks for the JMP's.


-Fish-
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on November 13, 2003, 12:29 AM
that's a nice lot to win... if only i had an extra $500 lying around the house... damn rent  >:(

Interesting avatar...

I'm a niner fan.  If my memory serves me well, we will be meeting for the last game of the season at 3 Com.  Let's hope it's worth something and you have not wrapped up the division.


-Fish-  
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: jokabofe on November 13, 2003, 12:33 AM
no offense, but i hope we have... but i don't have a lot of faith after the last 2 weeks. it just seems like the 'hawks remembered who they really are, and that they didn't deserve to be 6-2... so now they are 6-3, and slowly slipping away i fear.  :'(
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on November 13, 2003, 12:43 AM
No offense taken.  Your not a big rival...yet ;D

Now if you were a Cowboys fan it would be a whole different story!  BTW, are the Action Fleet you have loose or carded?  


-Fish-
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: jokabofe on November 13, 2003, 01:00 AM
action fleet from my trade list are all mib, if that's what you're referring to. if it's not, then i'm lost  ???
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 13, 2003, 10:10 AM
A nice way to get them all in one shot providing you have that amount of coin around! Though the Han Stormtrooper should be a freebie!  ;D
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Thomas Grey on November 13, 2003, 12:16 PM
Here's a wrench or 2 to throw into the works...

1. I know that POTF is the last 'movie related' vintage release, but do we or do we not include the Ewoks and Droids figures in the grand picture of things? If so, they would be the final figures I assume, but again, they are not movie related.

2. Is a complete POTF figure considered complete without the coin? I would almost say not, but it is not a necessary accessory to the figure. It's like the Freeze Frames or COMMTechs I guess. I am sure if I had the dough, that I would try for the coins as well because they are cool and would set this series of figures apart from others if displayed with the coins.

Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Reconsgt on November 13, 2003, 12:27 PM
I consider the coins to be part of the complete fig.  I view anything that is packaged on the card as completeing the figure as originally offered in retail.   I will buy potf figs without coins in a heart beat if the price is right.  But in the end I guess its up to each collector to decide how complete they want.
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: DSJ™ on November 13, 2003, 12:42 PM
Is a complete POTF figure considered complete without the coin?

Depends on the collector. He may collect loose but may not want the coins but then again, he may want them. A carded collector, well, no choice!  ;D  

As for myself, I have a loose collection with some coins & some carded. I picked up a few coins but not all. In time I may but no rush. The hardest was the Yak Face coin. Glad I got him!  ;)
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: JediMAC on November 13, 2003, 02:18 PM
1. I know that POTF is the last 'movie related' vintage release, but do we or do we not include the Ewoks and Droids figures in the grand picture of things? If so, they would be the final figures I assume, but again, they are not movie related.

Some people include them, but I'd say that most people don't.  I'm as "completist" as they come, and I don't consider the Droids or Ewoks lines to be a part of the standard Vintage line, and have no plans of collecting them whatsoever.  That's why I hate that Vintage figure poster issued by the Fan Club a few years back - it includes these cartoon figures as a part of the "Vintage whole".

I'd say that collectors who do include them, probably do so because they're completists of the Vintage "era", and not necessarily because they're part of the Vintage line of figures.  They're obviously a very seperate and unique line, and don't go with the standard line at all.  Same can probably be said for the upcoming "Animated" Clone Wars figures.  Many people won't collect them, since they're "different" and not part of the regular line.  To each their own really, as it's all in the eye of the beholder.

I'll never pick the Droids and Ewoks up, and won't think twice about it despite my completist tendencies and OCD...   ;)  BUT, and this is where it can get a little tricky...  I do consider the vehicles from these lines to be a part of the standard modern collection.  Go figure.  Yeah, hypocritical, I know.  But an A-Wing is an A-wing, and just 'cause Kenner was too lazy to issue it in the regular line, but fortunately squeezed it out in the Droids line, it's a necessary Vintage ship to acquire, without a doubt!  Even the Droids Side Gunner and ATL Interceptor are "EU" ships that I think go right alongside the rest of the mini-rigs from the regular line.  So ships - yes.  Figures - no.

2. Is a complete POTF figure considered complete without the coin? I would almost say not, but it is not a necessary accessory to the figure. It's like the Freeze Frames or COMMTechs I guess. I am sure if I had the dough, that I would try for the coins as well because they are cool and would set this series of figures apart from others if displayed with the coins.

Again, it's all in the eye of the beholder, but I'd fashion a guess that most casual Vintage collectors would not consider the coin as a necessary item to make the figure complete.  I sure don't.  Most people consider the figure to be complete if it comes with all of its "accessories" with which to use with the figure.  Obviously the figure can't "use" the coin (unless you're really imaginative).  The vast majority of vintage POTF figures being desribed as "loose and complete" would usually just be the accessories, and not the coin.

That's not to say there's not folks out there like Wayne, who DO consider the coin to be a part of a "complete" loose figure.  But I'd probably label most of those folks as more than just a "casual" vintage collector - really just a personal preference.  But if you want to label your loose Vintage figure collection "complete", but don't have the coins (or Ewoks and Droids figures), not too many people are going to dispute you.  Otherwise, the OCD completist in me would be running out and acquiring those items as well, 'cause my collection(s) MUST at all times be totally complete or I go inveritably insane!  Considering that doesn't seem to be the case with my mental well being as of right now, I'd therefore personally conclude that the coins, Ewoks, and Droids aren't part of the "complete" Vintage set...   :P
Title: Re: What are the "last 17" figures?
Post by: Morgbug on April 28, 2004, 11:02 PM
Some nice carded auctions of last 17 up this week on ebay.  Won't be me bidding, but interesting to watch them.

clicky here please (http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=iansmith90&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50)