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Title: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Scott on March 5, 2004, 03:15 PM
Martha was found guilty on all 4 counts of obstruction and perjury.  I wonder how she'll decorate her cell?

Stewart Guilty (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=&e=1&u=/ap/20040305/ap_on_bi_ge/martha_stewart)

NEW YORK - Martha Stewart (news - web sites) was convicted Friday of obstructing justice and lying to the government about a superbly timed stock sale, a devastating verdict that probably means prison for the woman who epitomizes meticulous homemaking and gracious living.

The jury of eight women and four men deliberated three days before convicting Stewart of all counts against her. The charges carry up to 20 years in prison, but Stewart will most certainly get much less than that under federal sentencing guidelines.

Her ex-stockbroker Peter Bacanovic, 41, was convicted on all but one count against him, making a false statement.

The charges centered on why Stewart dumped about $228,000 worth of ImClone Systems stock on Dec. 27, 2001, just a day before it was announced that the Food and Drug Administration (news - web sites) had rejected ImClone's application for approval of a cancer drug, an announcement sent ImClone's stock plummeting.

Stewart and Bacanovic claimed they had a standing agreement to sell when the price fell below $60. But the government contended that was a phony cover story and that Stewart sold because she was tipped by her broker that ImClone CEO Sam Waksal was frantically trying to dump his own holdings.
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Famine on March 5, 2004, 03:50 PM
 :P

Country club prison is nice, I hear.

Kevin
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: SilverZ on March 5, 2004, 04:10 PM
I'm no fan but, but considering that her company is, in an instant, essentially worth squat now, plus looking at a minimum of 16 months in the pokey or up to 20(!) - she's ruined.

Is that a fair penalty for the "crime"?
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Reconsgt on March 5, 2004, 04:14 PM
 I a sick and tired of corprate big wigs circumventing the system and profiting from insider info. She knew the risks and gambled that no-one would find out. She guessed wrong and now has to accept those consequences.

 Like the one juror stated
"Maybe it's a victory for the little guys who lose money in the market because of these kinds of transactions," said juror Chappell Hartridge.

Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: FX-7 on March 5, 2004, 05:21 PM
I wonder if she'll get to work in the prison kitchen?

Buh Bye Martha
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: paploo on March 5, 2004, 06:59 PM
i am glad the b is going to jail. read the last line of the yahoo report
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Force Guy on March 5, 2004, 07:31 PM
I hope that Jeff Skilling and/or Ken "Kenny boy" Lay are next!    
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: DSJ™ on March 5, 2004, 07:38 PM
(http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Humor/images/MS-LIV.jpg)
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: jadesfire on March 5, 2004, 07:47 PM
Good one, Dale!!

When this first hit the news last year, I felt that they were trying to direct atthention off of the other inside trading debacles and desided she was as good as a scapegoat as any.  Then I started reading some of the evidence that was being collected and during her trial when all the evidence was presented, I realized she was as guilty as hell.  As stated above, she got caught and has to pay the price.  No pity party here for Martha or the rest of the bunch that will be going to trial soon.  
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Famine on March 5, 2004, 09:04 PM
I get why it says www.marthastewart.con


Cause shes a convict!

Kevin
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: paploo on March 5, 2004, 10:05 PM
surprisingly her site doesnt sell black and white striped outfits...marthas new favorite outfit
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Mainland05 on March 5, 2004, 10:49 PM
I don't really understand what she did wrong? ???
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: paploo on March 6, 2004, 12:05 AM
I don't really understand what she did wrong? ???
She was investigated because of insider trading. This was because she got an a tip from her broker that iclone, a stock she owned, was having a drug denied from the FDA. This is horrible for the stock. She sold before the FDA thing was made public. This tip is called insider trading.
She was not convicted of this, but she was convicted for basically lying about it. She had her broker change her documents to say she was to sell when the stock hit 60. They lied about the whole thing...you cant do that.
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Morgbug on March 6, 2004, 01:09 AM
A little more on that.  

The reason you can't do that is tons of regular, everyday ordinary people don't have access to that type of information.  Buying and selling stocks involves risk.  If some people can take away that risk, but others can't, it renders the system unfair.  Now there is no way to make it completely unfair.  The president of Iclone apparently knew about the rejection and started dumping stock, but hey, it is his company.  Basically a big no-no to use inside information for personal gain (or to avoid personal loss).
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Boba Binks on March 6, 2004, 06:22 PM
How come all the people that I look up to turn out to be twisted and evil?

No seriously. I do not care what she did. People do stupid things in GREED. She got caught and now she has to pay.

Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Ben on March 6, 2004, 06:47 PM
I'm willing to bet her cell will be nicer than my $400 a month apartment.
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: DSJ™ on March 6, 2004, 07:17 PM
As long as its not like this!

Martha's Cell 1 (http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jun2003/MarthaLiving2.jpg)

Or this!

Martha's Cell 2 (http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_jun2003/MarthaLiving3.jpg)
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Playgirl on March 6, 2004, 08:50 PM
i like the second picture because you can see only on bed is decorated.  everyone else in the cell hates her i bet. what was i talking about?
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: DSJ™ on July 15, 2004, 03:21 PM
This just in...

Sentencing set for Martha Stewart  (http://edition.cnn.com/2004/BUSINESS/07/15/martha.stewart/index.html)

Place your bets!  I say 1 day time served. Heck, I'm starting to sound like I'm at work!  :D

Next case, $2875, pay or stay!  ;D
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Rob on July 16, 2004, 10:55 AM
Word is she just got 5 months.
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Jeff on July 16, 2004, 10:59 AM
Yep, 5 months in prison and $30,000 fine, and then another 5 months of home confinement along with 2 years supervised probation after she gets out of the "big house"...

Martha gets five months (http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/16/news/newsmakers/martha_sentencing/index.htm?cnn=yes)

Hehe.

Jeff


Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: DSJ™ on July 16, 2004, 01:01 PM
5 months! What a joke.
She can do that standing on her head. Thats what we say to the cons at work. She will be out in know time, well I guess that depends on how your system works compared to ours.

Now that she has done the crime, its best that she does the time.
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Morgbug on July 16, 2004, 01:36 PM
It's even better.  That five months at home is concurrent with the 5 months in the big (albeit cushy, not confined) house.  Her lawyer is appealing and I'll bet she stays out during that process, serving her 'at home' portion of the sentence.  By the time the appeal process is wrapped up she'll have done her five months at home.  The word concurrent is key here.  She'll have been forced to stay at her (probably) palatial home for a couple of months.  Done. ::)
Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Rob on July 16, 2004, 05:58 PM
It's even better.  That five months at home is concurrent with the 5 months in the big (albeit cushy, not confined) house.  Her lawyer is appealing and I'll bet she stays out during that process, serving her 'at home' portion of the sentence.  By the time the appeal process is wrapped up she'll have done her five months at home.  The word concurrent is key here.  She'll have been forced to stay at her (probably) palatial home for a couple of months.  Done. ::)

I've had the news on since I got home from work... I'm not hearing anything about this...  They were basically saying that she'd have her house arrest afterwards, but would only be required to stay at her house 1 full day a week and she won't be able to be gone more than 48 consecutive hours or something to that effect...

Title: Re: Martha Stewart...going to JAIL
Post by: Dressel Rebel on July 17, 2004, 07:21 AM
5 months! What a joke.

As long as you're not the one doing the time, I guess.