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Title: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on July 31, 2004, 09:04 AM
Rumors from the orient point to the fact that Episode III figures could potentially cost as much as 12 dollars USD. A scarey thought I know. Let's just hope this dosen't happen. Because if it does, the line may very well end, and the figures will forever sit on the pegs at Toys R Us.

So my question to you is, how much are you willing to pay for Revenge figures? And if indeed they are outrageously priced, will you wait for them to go on clearance and risk later waves being impossible to find?

I think I'd buy a few, but wait for clearance on the armybuilders.

AND (to anwser my first question) I wouldn't pay more than 7 dollars really. Episode I was outrageoues, but I could live with that for about a year.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on July 31, 2004, 11:27 AM
$12? For figures with action features? Forget that.

That would mean these couldn't sell to children, their "target market", so I don't think there's any way in hell the price will be that high.

If they go back to the $7 price point, that's a bad idea too.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Darby on July 31, 2004, 03:06 PM
$12?  I won't pay that for any SW figure.  Good lord.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on July 31, 2004, 03:55 PM
I agree completely, read this in I think, the GalacticHunter fourms? I just felt like I should pass along the possibility.

Here's hoping they keep the price at 4.99 and whatever it is abroad.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Diddly on July 31, 2004, 08:38 PM
$12? Unless they have a crapload of articulation and accessories, as well as a good sculpt, then no way.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Famine on August 1, 2004, 09:20 PM
No effin way would I pay 12.99 for a SW figure. Unless Todd McFarlane sculpted them himself... :-*


Kevin
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: CHEWIE on August 3, 2004, 02:33 PM
NO WAY IN HELL.  $5 is the perfect price for us and the retailers.  

 :P
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2004, 04:34 PM
$13?

I'd not heard this.  :)

If it's the case, I'm out...  I'll easily give up this hobby...  No figure's worth that price.  As it stands, VOTC aren't mre than $5 on flashy limited packaging.  They're not $13 figures, and they're F'n awesome.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Scott on August 3, 2004, 04:40 PM
I've been worrying about this all week, I'm wondering if people looking at the Episode III  Package and thinking Shrek packaging might have missed the point that there may be a scale change coming.  

I can't see them doing it, but that would be the only way to justify a price hike, 6" figures...I too am than out, no way in hell would I support a company that tried to pull that ****
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Morgbug on August 3, 2004, 05:12 PM
I'd be selective, if the figure was still nice, I'd probably pick up one or two.  That's with full acknowledgement that the price would translate pretty well to $20 Cdn.  VOTC are currently $14.99 plus the taxes, which here takes it to $17.09 :o (don't believe socialized health care comes without a cost).  

But a scale change?   Very selective, I would be.  If they don't mesh with the rest of the stuff (only what, 27+ years of history) I certainly would be displeased.  
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on August 3, 2004, 05:24 PM
If they change the scale, then I'm quiting.


If they do all these things, then the line will more than certainly die. Even as it stands, 12.99 figures aren't going to sell and would thankfully be clearanced off. But, with Hasbros little 'let the kids decide the fate of the line,' would their even be hope for a new improved wave?


For now, I'm just going to consider this a doomsday scenario and pray it dosen't happen.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: speedermike on August 3, 2004, 05:53 PM
"Rumors from the orient..."

What is this WWII?  Where is the original sorce of this rumor? $12.00 is just nuts.  The figure will be the same size, and no more than 5.99.

Now in 2006/7, I imagine Hasbro could make a more pricey, VOTC type line aimed at collectors.  
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on August 3, 2004, 06:04 PM
What is this WWII?  

 :'( Sorry you don't like my style of writing, truley, I am crushed. I'm going to delete my account and go back to rebelscum.

Where did these rumors come from? Various places, for one, specificaly the 12.99 one came from a guy I saw at GH. He posted a list of some case assortment and and said the price translates to 12.99 USD. He was from Taiwan, I believe. Allow me to provide a link: http://www.galactichunter.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=OTC&Number=72621&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Not only that, it has been speculated at various times and various places across the 'net that these packages appear to be far to fanciful. What do I mean? It appears to be in clamshell all it's own, with special little trinkits all over it. This would lead one to believe that they would be sold at an increased price point, much like the VOTC.

Hence why this 12.99 rumor holds some water. And even if not $12 then possibly 7, or 8.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Jesse James on August 3, 2004, 07:52 PM
I'm, at this time, wagering this won't occur.  I could see a hike to $7 by the company just because Hasbro's filled with the mindless, but I'm still going to bet on no major pricehike beyond that at this time.

Same with scale changes...  

If it happens, then so be it.  It's every excuse one needs to dump the line and let it go the way of Playmates Trek.  

Honestly, how many of us would actually care though I wonder?  It'd make my customizing list much more clear for me anyway.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on August 3, 2004, 09:50 PM
Scale change?

**** that. I'd drop this line like the bad habit it is then.

Sad thing is, it wouldn't surprise me one damn bit if they pulled that stunt.

I sure as hell won't like a price hike for packaging. What, pray tell, was so wrong with putting OT and PT figures on the same style of card? I loved the Saga line for that.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: CHEWIE on August 3, 2004, 09:51 PM
If they change the scale, I'm out.  I'll get rid of all my prequel stuff too and just collect OT stuff.  They're not going to do something that risky though, it would be a hot day on Hoth before they'd try to pull something that outlandish.

If they also charge $12.00 (which is whacky to even consider they would do something THAT stupid) for basic figures, I'm out too.  I'm guessing we might see them for $5.00 still; as weren't there supposed to be a price hike on the OTC stuff?  They're still $5.00.  Most of that fancy packaging looks to just be a cardboard insert anyway.  Nothing to get too ancy over.

I agree with the statement though that we might see some high end VOTC styled collector oriented figures in the $12.00 range somewhere down the road, but not with the initial EP3 stuff.

 :P
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on August 3, 2004, 10:05 PM
Well, at this time, I too feel that we won't see a change in scale, or such a large hike in price. I'm just putting every possibility foward and think that it should be considerd.

Either way, both are bad news if true.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Scott on August 3, 2004, 10:31 PM
The original source of the rumor was wai who got the info via his contacts in Taiwan, the Pricepoint solicited was $399 NTD which is around $11.70...I just checked and the pricepoint for the VOTC is $499 NTD...or $15...

So maybe $12 is a little high based on the VOTC pricepoint, if we reduce the $11.70 by 2/3 ($10/$15) we get around $8...still high

Sorry to get everyone in the scale change thought without doing some more digging, I think this just may be a price gouge ala Episode I >:(
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on August 3, 2004, 11:36 PM
Thanks for the clairification Scott.


Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Brian on August 4, 2004, 09:50 AM
I guess I wouldn't be surprised to see a price raise with the ROTS figures.  I certainly hope not though (as all of us do), and if they do, maybe just to $5-something.  I was just thinking back the other day about when I paid $7-$8 a figure for those Episode I characters, that is just crazy.  And, when I look back at it now, it wasn't worth it to me.  That is my least favorite movie, and really the most boring part of my collection to me unfortunately.  If they were for some reason $12-13 a piece, I'd have to strongly consider what I was going to do.  I'd probably still collect a few, but be quite limited (main characters only, very few supporting).  I just couldn't afford that.

Scale change?  I really think (hope) that Hasbro isn't that stupid.  Star Wars toys have been in the 3 3/4" scale forever, and for them to change it for the last movie would be insane.  I too would probably drop out, and it might prompt me as well to get rid of all my prequel figures/ships/etc. as well.  But, that said, I don't think it will happen....yet....but you can never put it past them.  I could see them switching scales once the movies are said and done, or doing something different.  I'm really curious to see where the line heads once ROTS is all said and done.  How many figures (if any) we'll get each year, whether it will be more of a collector line (hopefully), with VOTC-style figures, packaging, etc. (but hopefully not that expensive).  I really enjoy collecting Star Wars, so I hope it continues, but I think I would be ok with it being a little more limited in figure releases (financially, it would be better for me).  The days of 50 figures a year might be done, I'm not sure if any other lines really have that many?  Maybe GI Joe, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: SilverZ on August 5, 2004, 03:37 PM
No way they're abandoning 3-3/4" scale toys, not with preview figures coming in the existing line, whatever we call it after the OTC 40 ends.

Could it be that the pricepoint indicates another line? They could easily be doing a LOTR scale line for 2005 that runs concurrently with the smaller figures. That's a scenario I'd be happy with. Far fetched, but since we're talking theories.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: JediMAC on August 5, 2004, 07:21 PM
No chance on either a scale change, or a big price hike.  Not even Hasbro's that stupid.  There's just no way they'd have 5 movies and almost 1,000 figures worth of 4" scaled product, and then ditch that scale altogether for the final movie in the Saga.  It's slightly possible they could have the regular 4" scale, and then experiment with a larger 6" scale, though I think they've done that before, to little avail...

Hopefully we don't see a price hike at all, but anything within the $5 - $7 range is always possible, since it's happened with this line in the past.  But I don't think they'd raise prices by anything more than a buck if they actually did.  So fear not, I'm sure Mr. Windu from GH (and Taiwan) just received or typed some inaccurate information over there, that's all.   ;)

But on a similar note, if Hasbro decided to start making all of their upcoming figures in the VOTC style - with increased detail, authenticity, and articulation - I would have no serious qualms with shelling out an additional dollar or two per figure.  But I doubt that'll happen either.  Just wishful thinking...
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: SilverZ on August 5, 2004, 07:45 PM
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Not even Hasbro's that stupid.

Do not underestimate them.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Darby on August 5, 2004, 08:14 PM
I don't think either is likely, but just for the record if they raise the price or the scale, I'm out.   ML style SW figs would interest me, but not enough to continue.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Mainland05 on September 15, 2004, 10:33 PM
I would think at the most 7.99?
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on September 19, 2004, 10:41 PM
$7.99 is too rich for my blood. Especially for the figures in the first assortments we'll all be bitching about within a year and a half after we buy them.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Morgbug on September 20, 2004, 01:04 PM
A price hike would be very foolish indeed.  As I've said elsewhere, if I'm able to control the impusles, I'll likely wait and play catch up with most of the early release of Ep III.  Those waves end up dirt cheap on ebay down the road, so if they hiked the price, it would only encourage me more. 

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Do not underestimate them.

quite so. 
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Scott on September 20, 2004, 01:11 PM
Actually...EE sent me a note last week saying the price of the Naboo case went from $72.99 to $79.99 via the price hike from Hasbro ::)

$80/12=$6.67...I'd say $7 is still within the ballpark for these morons
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Morgbug on September 20, 2004, 01:41 PM
Last gasp gouge?  Interesting way to make sure the line stays healthy for a few more years ::)
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on September 20, 2004, 06:15 PM
I'd love to have the Ep. III figures, but I'm fearing I may only be able to afford a loose set now.

I suppose that the price hike takes effect in January, then?




Piss. I was having such a fun time buying all these OTC figures for $5 a pop too. I don't think the hobby's been this enjoyable since late 1998. :(
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Vator on September 22, 2004, 01:55 PM
Think of it this way, if the figures are $7 a peice, and you find say 5 Clone Troopers and decide to buy them all you'll be paying $10 more than you would have for Episode II. That's $35!

And if the rumors are true for a 21 figures on the launch of ther line, then you can expect to pay $147!

Screw that! I'll buy a few figs and and wait for clearances!

Think of it this way, when you find a wave of new figrues how many do you buy? Say you find 10 figures, you'd have to pay 20 dollars more than you'd have to today!
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on September 22, 2004, 10:29 PM
I think they're raising the price since we've proved to them we'll buy $5 figures on $10 cards/clamshells, plus we'll buy figures we bought years ago if they're on pretty packaging. I'm sure any profit-minded corporate lapdog would think the same thing.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2004, 03:50 PM
Well, after seeing our first few glimpses of what is to come in the ROTS line, I've been thinking more about price.  Although I am quite happy that we got the vOTC line, and I'm very happy to have them all in my collection, the $10 pricepoint was a bit steep for me.  I originally hoped to buy two of each to keep some carded, but just couldn't afford to do that.  I bought an extra Han, and hope to someday get an extra Chewie as well, but otherwise I had to limit it to one of each.  Anyways, back to the topic...from the images we've seen, it appears that many of the ROTS figures might resemble the vOTC line in terms of sculpt and articulation, which is a wonderful thing.  If the majority of the line continues in this fashion, how much do you feel is too much to pay for a Star Wars figure(s)?

Although I really hope that the majority of the figures are done in the vOTC fashion, I don't think I could stomach paying $10 each for them.  I guess I'd be willing to pay a little more for that quality (even though we've seen figures about as good at the $5 pricepoint), but I'd say $6-$7ish is about top dollar.  Anyways, I was just wondering if anyone's opinions on price has changed after seeing some possibilities of what is to come.  I do hope these figures turn out to be as spiffy as it looks right now, and I'm really looking forward to them, but I'm definitely going to have to save some pennies for this :).
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Morgbug on October 27, 2004, 04:29 PM
Again, if you're in Canada, you've seen this before.  Current figures, after taxes are $10.24 in most places.  POTJ figures were nearly $14 after taxes at one point, at TRU, just about the only reliable retailer at the time.  Sure they're Canadian dollars, but that's all I earn, so at times I've paid 3x what the average US collector has paid.  Exchange rate is so much better now, it's almost no question that I buy figures out of the US - even with shipping and customs fees it's still cheaper than here.  How sad is that. 

Is it awful?  Yup.  Ben said it though, where's the surprise. 

Price increase or no, I'm going to pick up the figures I really want and am prepared to pay for.  Otherwise I'll wait six months for the loose figure dumping. 
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2004, 06:21 PM
If all the figures are up to the Preview wave standards, I'd have no problems paying $6-7 each. I paid that for the E1 stinkers.

I don't think I'll be buying many carded figures, at least until the massive inevitable clearances. I do want all an Obi-Wan, Anakin, Padme, Grevious, and Vader on card, and I doubt I'll wait to buy them.
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Ranat on October 31, 2004, 03:44 AM
Here is my take on the situation:

If the price goes up to $12, i'm done. I will NOT pay $12 for an action figure.

If the scale changes, i'm done. I think it would be a stupid idea on Hasbro's part to change the scale of their Star Wars figures that they've had for 25 years.

My opinion on the matter: I highly doubt both of these "assumptions". For starter, I think even Hasbro knows that people will not buy these figures for $12 a pop. Do I think that there will be a price rise? Perhaps, but I don't see it going higher than $7 or $8, which to me is reasonable. And I don't know who came up with the scale change idea, but no offense, that is just stupid. Hasbro knows they are selling their 3&3/4 line well, so why would they change it.l
Title: Re: Breaking the bank, what's the price?
Post by: Jesse James on October 31, 2004, 03:51 AM
*cough*playmates*cough*

Seriously though...  I think that's just speculation on the scale changes and such, as a reason for a major hike in price, but...  it happens, as with the PM Trek line(s).  Anything's possible.