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Title: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 2, 2005, 01:08 AM
I thought if anyone should start this thread, it should be me, the JD.com checklist creator. I pride myself on knowing as much as possible about variations and errors and I assume we will see our fair share of them from the SWIII figure waves.

So, while I have nothing at this time to report, I look forward to finding out what there may soon be in this department. So, if you find something interesting that relates, please share it with our fellow collectors of obscurity in this thread. If you suspect something, have any questions or want more details about specific production malfunctions and corrections this is the place to post. I assume there will be no missing pipe accessory and lets hope the clone trooper dot and visor is revisted in the Wookiee Warriors...

Best of luck and good hunting to all!
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Famine on April 2, 2005, 01:14 AM
Purple VS Blue Cardbacks. I noticed this IMMEDIATLEY tonight.

Mainly Anakins were puprle, rather than blue.

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 2, 2005, 04:41 PM
Hey Thomas long time no chat. Well this was reported on RS: Possible Canadian Card Variations (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=90755) I can confirm this as the only figure I saw with that action sticker on it thus far.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/ROTS%20Carded%20Variation.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Famine on April 2, 2005, 05:07 PM
To borrow Jedi Jasons picture:

(http://img163.exs.cx/img163/2305/img03906uu.jpg)


See the purple then blue?

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: starwax137 on April 2, 2005, 05:48 PM
I noticed the whole purple/blue thing too, but it looked to me like Collection I is blue and Collection II is purple. Can anyone confirm or disregard this?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darth Kenobi on April 2, 2005, 05:53 PM
Not sure if its anything but I have a Chancellor Palpatine  that has his head turned at an angle to his right.  I have another one with his head looking striaght ahead.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SGT. Flint on April 2, 2005, 10:00 PM
I found quite a few errors so lets begin.....


1: I found numerous red royal guards with there weapons missing (The rifle mostly)

2: There are 2 DLX versions of both Ani (Boots and gloves on side and bottom of the package)

3: I found 3 DLX versions of the SBD (Arms away from package, leg away from package, and A put together SBD.

4: That was it folks and There should be pics soon from what i saw
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 3, 2005, 12:51 AM
Nice finds!

The obvious variations (please excuse anything that I get wrong, I'm a bit out of the loop):

- Anakin - 2 carded versions thus far - no cloak and no dark circles under eyes/ with cloak and dark circles under eyes

- Royal Guards - blue and red

- General Grevious - with cloak/cape and without

- Yoda - spinning action and cannon

- the blue and purple cards... The thing about this is, is there a difference? Do I need to have the Chewbacca on both colored cards to feel complete? Is one less common than the other?

A complaint I should probably air elsewhere...

- the peg holders are really chinsey. Very thin and do not seem to do well with a lot of handling.

I also think that this Amidala with child figure is going to earn a name much like 'monkey face Leia', but I fear what it will be...





SGT. Flint, nice finds! You must have had ample time to study the figure assortments when you went out. Wish I had the patience and the store I was at wasn't so crowded to afford me the luxury of studying things.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: ruiner on April 4, 2005, 12:01 PM
Here's one for the folks who suffer from OCD spelling disorder! 

Greivous' Body Guard "name tag" is spelled incorrectly.

It's spelled:  General Greivous's body guard.

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 4, 2005, 01:09 PM
So, is it that the type is lower case? Because guard is spelled: g-u-a-r-d. Just curious.

AOTC/Saga had so many card corrections during the run. I wonder if Hasbro will as articulate in correcting errors like that with ROTS. Good eye ruiner! I will definitely have to check that out next time I go out for a figure run.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on April 4, 2005, 05:47 PM
The obvious variations (please excuse anything that I get wrong, I'm a bit out of the loop):

- Anakin - 2 carded versions thus far - no cloak and no dark circles under eyes/ with cloak and dark circles under eyes

- Royal Guards - blue and red

- General Grevious - with cloak/cape and without

- Yoda - spinning action and cannon

Well now, hang on here just a second Thomas.  I wouldn't call those variations at all.  Those are just multiple versions of the same character is all - with their own specific collection #'s and everything.  There's also 3 different versions of Sidious/Palpatine as well, if you wanna get technical.

As for the blue/purple cards, I definitely noticed that as well as I was sifting through things at MM.  I've seen color differences like that before though, and I don't think it's an intentional thing at all.  More of a subtle, and addidental, altering in the printing process.  This is a more of a "production error", and one that I definitely have no interest in pursuing.  Granted, I probably will flip through all my figures to try to make sure I have a matching set, with no purples mixed in there, or blues, or whatever it is that's the incorrect color.

As for legitimate "variations", the only two I've heard of so far are the Deluxe Vader/Anakin with the accessories either below, or to the right side of the figure, and the Kenobi/SBD Deluxe figure where the SBD's leg is either attached to the SBD, or detached and sticking out to the side.  Those are the only two I plan on going after so far.  Nabbed the Vader yesterday, but didnt' know about the SBD one 'til today, so I'll have to see if I can find one of those now as well...

EDIT:  Looks like Flint's suggesting one more variation on the SBD with his arms "out".  Interesting.  I'll have to keep an eye out for that one as well...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SGT. Flint on April 4, 2005, 06:18 PM
Well Ive been working on the pics and i have spotted a major variation on the royal guards....


Ive found 4 red and 4 blue guards packaged without there rifles and pistols and the packages werent tampered with either
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 5, 2005, 12:54 AM
Like I said, I'm out-of-the-loop.

I obviously overlooked the collection #'s. The pictures are different on the Anakin and Yoda figures, but the Royal Guards are packaged on the same card. Why don't you take over here Matt... I mean, when did you become a variation/error enthusiast and collector? Always have to one-up me don't ya? But that's why I like you so much, you keep me on my game...

Here's an interesting ebay sale...

Target Lava Vader chest plate variant?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=5967410730&rd=1

There are also a couple sales that tell of a few different Obi-Wan hair color variations - dark brown, reddish and light brown. The images are really bad and so it's hard to confirm. This is probably more of a "paint error" than a legit variation.

The Grevious Body Guard error looks to be on the back of the card where they show images of other figures from that collection. IT IS spelled 'Body Gaurd' under the figure image.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=98027&item=6523387124&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

One other item of interest in the error department:

Decapitated/Headless Battle Droid

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2476&item=5967177835&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I have a headless Jango from the AOTC collection. His dome is floating around in the bottom of the card.

I personally have had zero luck finding anything interesting on my own. Hope that changes soon.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: evenflow on April 5, 2005, 09:00 AM
Palpatine # 35 is now out with the proper red saber.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: ruiner on April 5, 2005, 09:09 AM
So, is it that the type is lower case? Because guard is spelled: g-u-a-r-d. Just curious.



No, not quite.

The error is the plural of Grevious.  It should be Grevious' Guard not Grevious's guard.

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 5, 2005, 10:04 AM
On the front page of RS, theres an article on the printing error on the cardback run.

Purple Or Blue? (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=90991)

There is also the mention of #35 Palpatine's saber.

Blue Or Red? Error Or Not? (http://www.rebelscum.com/article.asp?i=91002)

Just to confirm what has been noted above.  :)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 5, 2005, 10:28 AM
I found a Palpatine #35 this morning and he's holding Anakin's lightsaber. I thought this was odd, but since I hadn't found the figure yet, I decided to get it.

I hope this ends up being the "rarer" of the two versions, I would much rather have this figure with a red lightsaber when I finally get one to open....
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jim on April 5, 2005, 07:13 PM
Not sure if anyone updated on the Blue and Purple cards.  Some people thought collection 1 was one color and collection 2 was another.  I have mulitple clones and some are Blue and others are Purple,.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on April 5, 2005, 07:23 PM
just wondering if anyone has tried to attach the extra hand / red saber accesory that comes with the deluxe palpatine onto the palpatine #35 figure. if it fits that might benifit people that bought the blue saber version of palpatine #35 to make it movie accurate. thoughts?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on April 5, 2005, 09:22 PM
I obviously overlooked the collection #'s. The pictures are different on the Anakin and Yoda figures, but the Royal Guards are packaged on the same card. Why don't you take over here Matt... I mean, when did you become a variation/error enthusiast and collector? Always have to one-up me don't ya? But that's why I like you so much, you keep me on my game...

My pleasure Thomas!  :P  I've been doing the "unintentional" variant thing for quite a long time now, and the production errors whenever I come across them as well.  I just don't want people getting confused here by anyone mixing up the terminology.

Most of the stuff Thomas just mentioned are Production Errors (card color differences, incorrect/missing paint apps, etc).

The legitimate variations at this point would probably only be the Vader/Anakin deluxe figure with the complete altering of the position of the accessories included, as well as the Obi-Wan/SBD deluxe figure, where the SBD's leg comes either attached to the SBD, or separate from the rest of the SBD.  That's all I've heard of being verified so far.  Not sure what the "arms out" variation on the SBD set is though, as mentioned above.  Another noteable variation from the Saga line would be the McQuarrie Stormtrooper with the lightsaber positioned upwards, or downwards.  I unfortunately never came across the former, and now it's usually up near the $100 range when it occasionally makes an appearance on eBay.  EDIT:  Whoops, missed the red/blue saber issue on Palpy, so that would apply to this category as well.  Damn.  Now I'm gonna have to see which I have, and go chase down a blue one if needbe...

Then there's the intentional variants, which I hardly even consider variantions, like the Red vs. Blue Royal guard we're currently seeing in the ROTS line.  Or better yet, like the different hair colors on the RFTs and IOs in the Saga line, or the bearded/non-bearded Endor Soldiers, etc.  To me, these are just totally different figures.

Anyway, I managed to snag the SBD variation on the way home last night, so I'm temporarily caught up with those now.

BTW Thomas, anyone can take their carded Saga Jango Fett and give it a good smack or shake it around a little bit, and create a "headless" error, where his head's rolling around in the bottom of the bubble.  In fact, a lot of us did just that on purpose in the stores when that figure was first released, just to highlight that major spoiler to the casual AOTC buyers...  ;)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 5, 2005, 11:47 PM

 smug well mister super genius...

YOU are telling ME what 'production errors' and 'intentional variants' are? Hopefully you are doing it to benefit those not so well-versed.

Sooooo, What you are saying Matt, is that a production error is something like:

The clone trooper and jango fett unpainted visor figures. While many were found, it was still an error and not an 'intentional variant' like the:

Bespin Luke - i. e. - bloody, metal pegs, rubber pegs on the detached hand accessory.

A variant can also be when a major change is made to the card to correct a production error:

Luminara listed with a removable cape and she doesn't have one, so the sticker the crap out of the words 'removable cloak' until the correction card is produced.

Or the first 16 figures from AOTC with the background cards.

There definitely aren't enough things to report yet and it will be interesting what develops. I spent a long time and traded some good stuuf to get my hands on a Dexter Jettster with 'pipe' listed as an accessory. You never know what changes may occur until the opportunity passes you by.

But JMAC, you better recognize!!!

I do not profess to being an English master, but I think the 's and s' on a name ending in 's' is correct both ways. I know a lot of people that will say James' (which would be James used as a possessive) and people that say James's (which would be pronounced Jameses and also used as a possessive). I prefer the way you go ruiner, but I have had this arguement with people before and I have come to the conclusion that both are acceptable. We may want to check Strunk and White just to completely solve the issue...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 5, 2005, 11:53 PM
And I quote:

"1. Form the possessive singular of nouns by adding 's.

Follow this rule what ever the final consonant. Thus write,

Charles's friend
Burns's poem
the witch's malice"

"The Elements of Style" by William Strunk Jr. and E. B. White

Sorry to rain on the parade ruiner. Just think it's important to be thorough and correct when we deal with incorrectness...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on April 6, 2005, 12:29 PM
Picked up Emperor Palpatine today and he has no Saber packed in.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Emperor%20Palpatine%2012%20No%20Saber.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 6, 2005, 02:52 PM
Damn!

Nice Dale!

When will it be my turn to happen upon something as cool as that?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on April 6, 2005, 02:53 PM
smug well mister super genius...

YOU are telling ME what 'production errors' and 'intentional variants' are? Hopefully you are doing it to benefit those not so well-versed.

Sooooo, What you are saying Matt, is that a production error is something like:
...
But JMAC, you better recognize!!!

You know I love you Tom!  :-*

Yeah, just so the class didn't get confused there.  And I'd say the additional examples you listed there were spot on.  Well done.  ;)

Now I'm gonna go rattle some more Jango noggin's off in their Saga cards...  :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Morgbug on April 6, 2005, 10:30 PM
Picked up Emperor Palpatine today and he has no Saber packed in.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Emperor%20Palpatine%2012%20No%20Saber.jpg)

Trilogo, who cares? :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on April 6, 2005, 11:51 PM
I opened up count dooku tonight and wonder how many variations on the pegs they'll make. Mine has a peg left forearm to go the wrist, a peg right wrist to go into the right forearm and a peg neck to go into the body.
other that that, I'm actually very impressed with  him, so much more than ep2 dooku. He has ball socket shoulders, elbows and knees,   cut forearms and waist and boot tops. the cloth cape is a nice touch and his base is from the opening ship battle  I suppose and is rather nice. Glad I picked him up because dooku wasn't originally on my first day list.   :)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Scott on April 6, 2005, 11:57 PM
just wondering if anyone has tried to attach the extra hand / red saber accesory that comes with the deluxe palpatine onto the palpatine #35 figure. if it fits that might benifit people that bought the blue saber version of palpatine #35 to make it movie accurate. thoughts?
I just tried this since the saber hand was on my shelf and the peg holes are different sizes :-\
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darth Broem on April 7, 2005, 08:27 AM
I suppose the Palpatine #35 with red lightsaber will be hard to get right?  This kind of sucks IMO.   Why don't they just give him both lightsabers red and blue? 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: ruiner on April 7, 2005, 10:48 AM
He, he - mine has a red saber and I opened it.

Oh well, price you pay for being an opener I guess!   ;D
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darth Broem on April 7, 2005, 11:20 AM
Now we know why Mace's is purple :)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Scott on April 7, 2005, 11:32 AM
Well, if I was going to throw out a prediction, I'd say the BLUE one will become the rarer of the two.  Why he has a blue saber makes no sense to me at all based on spoiler reports and all.  Maybe it will when the movie comes out and there is a 50/50 split but that remains to be seen.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: evenflow on April 7, 2005, 12:31 PM
I suppose the Palpatine #35 with red lightsaber will be hard to get right?  This kind of sucks IMO.   Why don't they just give him both lightsabers red and blue? 

I think the blue will be the tougher find.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jeff on April 7, 2005, 02:12 PM
So, what is the deal with the #35 Palpatine sabers?

Some people are saying it is intentional because at some point Palpatine has Anakin's saber in RotS.

Other people are saying it's an error because the figure was based on early filming stuff but the error is now fixed with the red saber figure.

The rest of the people, like me, are trying to figure it out.  :(

Do I need one of these Blue Saber Palpatines or not?  If it's a variation/error, I can pass on it because I want the movie accurate Red Saber one to open.  But, then again, if this Palpatine w/Anakin's saber deal pans out and is in the movie, then I'm going to want one....  ::)

Jeff
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SGT. Flint on April 8, 2005, 09:53 AM
I have found a picture of a new variation to the  Battle Droid (http://www.sandtroopers.com/Spice/readers/forsyth/red_droid_closeup.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jim on April 9, 2005, 04:17 PM
Its a simple swap.  You cant even tell it was tampered with due to the sloppy job Hasbro did with the tape.  I thought of this the first day I found the fig.  Im really surprised a bunch have not been swapped and thrown on ebay.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 11, 2005, 09:25 PM
So, what is the deal with the #35 Palpatine sabers?

Some people are saying it is intentional because at some point Palpatine has Anakin's saber in RotS.

Other people are saying it's an error because the figure was based on early filming stuff but the error is now fixed with the red saber figure.

The rest of the people, like me, are trying to figure it out.  :(

Do I need one of these Blue Saber Palpatines or not?  If it's a variation/error, I can pass on it because I want the movie accurate Red Saber one to open.  But, then again, if this Palpatine w/Anakin's saber deal pans out and is in the movie, then I'm going to want one....  ::)

Jeff

Actually Jeff - NEITHER version may be "movie accurate" - I got two Red Saber versions at Kohls yesterday morning and the hilt of the lightsaber is STILL Anakins! That's right - to correct the lightsaber color, all Hasbro did was change the color of the blade, NOT the lightsaber handle!

IMHO - this figure just gets more and more screwed up as time passes. Next thing you know, we're going to get one where the handle is correct and the blade is blue and then finally a perfectly correct figure where the handle is correct and the blade is red!
Title: Blue and Purple
Post by: Herbert_Ackermans on April 15, 2005, 02:11 PM
Concerning the blue and purple cardbacks, are those tied to specific figures, or can any figure be found with either a blue or purple background?
Title: Re: Blue and Purple
Post by: JediMAC on April 15, 2005, 02:14 PM
I think they're somewhat random, but were perhaps a little more common in the higher numbered figures.  I believe it's been explained over at RS that it was just an issue with the color dye that causes a lot of them to come out purple-ish by mistake.  I'm trying to make sure my complete carded collection is all of the regular blue variety though, and will probably just hang on to one carded purple figure just as an example of the production error...
Title: Re: Blue and Purple
Post by: ruiner on April 15, 2005, 02:34 PM
I view it more as a QA issue vs. an error, all printers print differently and obviously no one cared about the tolerance in color difference.

Since I'm an opener I really don't care, but I have noticed the color variance.
Title: Re: Blue and Purple
Post by: JediMAC on April 15, 2005, 02:46 PM
I view it more as a QA issue vs. an error

Yeah, basically so do I.  I didn't really mean a "production error" like the random unpainted visors or something specific like that.  Basically, this was a wide spread, long running error in the production of the cards (due to the poor QA), as one of the paint dyes ran out along the way, and wasn't noticed and fixed for quite some time.  So it's a QA issue, but that's not really a usual "figure description" that checklists get broken out into, like "variant", "production error", etc.  So I lumped it into the latter, but yeah, it was due to QA.  I basically consider the two intertwined in this instance really...

I just feel bad for the uber-carded maniacs who are trying to complete a set of both...
Title: Re: Blue and Purple
Post by: Jim on April 15, 2005, 03:05 PM
Concerning the blue and purple cardbacks, are those tied to specific figures, or can any figure be found with either a blue or purple background?

These are definte random as Matt mentioned.  Being in a MFG backrground, the purple were probably at the tail end of each run before colors were reset.  I tried to find logic but have found both variations on 30 of the first 32 figs. 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 16, 2005, 08:20 PM
So, with that all in mind, does anyone here think that there is more behind these saber variations/errors? Examples from AOTC/SAGA  that became ridiculous:

Luminara cloak text, stickers...
Clone Trooper dots (no dots on photo...)
Luke Bespin (bloody, metal peg, rubber peg...)
Luke Throne Room glove

I think the most out-of-control variation was the Bespin Luke stump/peg corrections. I agree that things get out-of-hand and it makes me wonder who is making all the correction decisions when they release a figure with 4 or more different changes on an accessory. Why can't they just figure it out the second time?

It is frustrating as a collector to follow and collect all these versions and wonder which might be the shortest lived run. The production numbers on corrected figures are kept pretty secret. I was hoping that Hasbro would be able to have figured out a system by now to avoid the continuim of redo's and corrections. Guess I was wrong...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: starwax137 on April 17, 2005, 09:15 AM
I don't have a picture yet, but my #12 Palpatine's cardback has Grievous's Bodyguard spelled as Grievous's Bodygaurd. Not sure if this has already been spotted. Can anyone confirm that there is even a correct one out there? The only one I've checked is the one I bought. Also, has anyone noticed this on any other figure's cardback?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Diddly on April 17, 2005, 06:46 PM
Mine says "Bodygaurd" too. I think this is just an error that won't be fixed.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 17, 2005, 08:53 PM
We have covered it a little. I do not know whether there will be a change or correction to the card at this point. Judging by what Hasbro has done the last few years, I am sure they will do something about it. Whether there is a transition/sticker correction before the correct printed card back is also hard to determine. I think that Hasbro is going to be more inclined and focused on errors that deal directly with the packaged figure before something like listed figures. We'll watch and see. I think if we start to see corrections, it will be after the first waves and boxes have been cleared from the retailer stockrooms. I would guess there are quite a few boxes of the first waves left tobreak open...
Title: Re: Blue and Purple
Post by: Xander on April 18, 2005, 02:27 PM
I noticed it too when I got home and had one purple and one blue #6 Clone troopers.  So blue is going to be the standard?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SGT. Flint on April 22, 2005, 09:06 AM
There's a new variation shown of there @ rebelscum that is a basic Ani with a Dooku lightsaber
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on April 22, 2005, 09:56 AM
There's a new variation shown of there @ rebelscum that is a basic Ani with a Dooku lightsaber

I just took a look at the picture and by bs-dectector went off...

If the toy came with a hand molded with a Dooku lightsaber in it THEN I would be convinced. However, the left hand can not hold anything and the Dooku lightsaber is just a lightsaber (i.e. no hand molded to it) so there's no way to have the Anakin figure hold BOTH sabers like he does in the movie.

If the figure came with a flesh hand molded with the Dooku lightsaber and you could put that hand on Anakin's left arm then YES it would definitely be a variant.

As it stands now this looks like someone bought both Dooku and Anakin and then put the Dooku lightsaber into the Anakin package.

- Peter
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on April 22, 2005, 01:46 PM
There's a new variation shown of there @ rebelscum that is a basic Ani with a Dooku lightsaber

i just found one of these today. go read my two recent post s about this in the RECENT PURCHASES thread for details.

**edit**  forget about the RECENT PURCHASES thread. i posted the info below in another post.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SGT. Flint on April 22, 2005, 02:32 PM
Well it looks as if Ill be a hunting for this variation
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on April 22, 2005, 03:12 PM
i copy and pasted my two posts about the anakin #2 variation from another forum below if anyone is curious about more info on this:


you know, i might just have run across one of these yesterday and didn't even realize it (that's if this is really legitimate). i found one fresh case with one each of #33-36, #41-44, and #1-3 & 9. so the #2 anakin is being freshly re-packed in this case. could this be the case where the running change starts? i didn't know about this rumour then so i didn't even give the anakin a glance. 


well, curiosity got the best of me after my last post, so i ran up to the wal-mart where i saw this case yesterday. sitting on the shelf between the exploding grievous and red saber palpy i spotted yesterday was indeed the #2 anakin w/ dooku saber variation.  so i can 99% confirm that it is a running change with this new case-pack.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on April 22, 2005, 08:42 PM
Here we go again...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=101609&item=5970274976&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I actually think this is one of the better errors ever. The red clone troopers from AOTC with an unpainted visor looked pretty cool. The jango fett helmets were cool looking too. The error happened enough to be a more common phenomenon (not a one-shot mishap) and they became rather popular. I am gullible enough to believe this thing is legit and not a repack in an attempt to try and revive one of the more popular AOTC errors. I usually just believe it. Good thing I do not buy many SW figures off ebay.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on April 22, 2005, 09:44 PM
darkksith ,

I too can confirm that the #2 Anakin Variation does in fact exist.  Interestingly I saw the same figures at Walmart you saw Red Palpi and Exploding Grievous. 

I picked the variation up and it in fact comes with no gloved hand just the saber. 

I am in Arizona, so unless we have a network of re-packers across the country go get this variant while you can if you are into this sort of thing.

DBK

Title: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 25, 2005, 10:37 PM
OK, I'm sure everyone was wondering as I did what was up w/ the #2 Anakin coming w/ a red saber since there doesn't seem to be any indication as of yet that he uses one in the film.  Then I heard rumblings about the fig showing up w/ Dooku's saber, which totally makes sense.  Well today jjks and I went hunting and I found 1 w/ the Dooku saber at a WalMart here in TN (which I gave to jjks.)  So should we expect to see this version popping up from here on out or what?  Anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: CHEWIE on April 25, 2005, 11:24 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Dooku saber will be included on future assortments with him.

 :P
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: Darth Broem on April 26, 2005, 08:37 AM
We need a scissors-chopping action feature Anakin figure now!
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on April 26, 2005, 10:18 AM
Holographic Elvis,

My understanding is that the version with Dooku is the corrected version and is shipping now.  I believe they are one per case with the Clone Commander Wave.  Although this is the "corrected" piece this should have a much more limited run than the first piece.

I can't tell you how many of the version #1 Anakins are warming the pegs here in Arizona...too many.

If you have no luck tracking this one down locally, PM me as I have an extra that I would let you have at cost and shipping.

Regards,

DBK



Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: jokabofe on April 26, 2005, 10:44 AM
So what did he come with originally? Just his regular hilt but a red blade?
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on April 26, 2005, 11:02 AM
jokabofe,

Yes.  The easiest way to tell the difference is...

1) version 1 comes with the regular blade and a black glove hand holding the saber.

2) version 2 comes with the Dooku saber and no visible black glove hand holding the saber.

I hope this answers your question.

DBK
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: Holographic Elvis on April 27, 2005, 12:46 AM
At our last stop of the trip after dinner tonite I scored yet another #2 Anakin w/ Dooku saber, this one for myself. 
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: jokabofe on April 27, 2005, 01:51 AM
1) version 1 comes with the regular blade and a black glove hand holding the saber.

2) version 2 comes with the Dooku saber and no visible black glove hand holding the saber.

Hmmm... the one I have has Anakin holding his Blue Saber in his gloved hand attached to the figure itself, and then there is another gloved hand in the bubble holding his Red Saber, but it's not Dooku's.

DBK - if you have an extra of the Anakin w/Dooku saber, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands. Please LMK.
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: aka DaBigKahuna on April 30, 2005, 07:07 PM
Dave,

I am sure you will see this figure pop up locally.  This way you wont pay for shipping that will cost the price of the figure.  I will set on aside for you. 

If you do not track one down PM me.

DBK
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: Nicklab on May 1, 2005, 01:00 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Dooku saber will be included on future assortments with him.

 :P

Already is.  I picked up a couple of the new Dooku saber versions today.

Dave,  I saw numerous samples of the new Dooku saber version today while doing a toy run in North Jersey.  They're out there.
Title: Re: So what's the deal w/ the Anakin #2 fig?
Post by: darkksith on May 2, 2005, 12:41 PM
i found the dooku saber version in a case that included #37-44 at a wal-mart about ten days ago. i'm thinking this is a running change starting with new cases that include these later figs. so if you find figs #37-44 on the pegs i would look for any anakin #2 that is pegged in the same general area.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on May 7, 2005, 03:43 AM
does anyone have the version of anakin #28 without the black circles around his eyes? if so, are these easily found in stores. is the black paint totally removed or is there just a smaller amount? does anyone have comparison pics of the two?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Thomas Grey on May 9, 2005, 12:51 PM
I have not seen nor heard of a paint variation or error on the eyes of Anakin #28. I assume this is the figure pictured with the cloak pulled over his head. If this does exist, I would assume it is a painting error and not a variation.

Has anyone heard of the Darth Vader/Anakin deluxe figure variations? One has all the armor packaged in the bubble and visible in the package and the othe has it hidden. I have not really looked for this, but it seems pretty cool. There is one posted on ebay if you type: 'ROTS variation' in the search.

I have looked religeously for the Anakin #2 with Dooku saber and have not been able to find one anywhere. You guys make it sound like they are a dime a dozen. While DaBigKahuna says the Dooku is the more rare of the 2, it remains to be seen. It would be nice if Hasbro would release the production #s for each figure. This would answer a lot of questions about how rare one figure is compared to another. I would like to know the ratio of blue Royal Guards versus the red version. I would like to know whether the blue saber version of Palpatine #35 is more rare than the red. We can guess and estimate, but the actual numbers would be interesting to see.

So far the ROTS figures have not given us:
- a mole on Amidala
- Clone Trooper craziness
- text errors
- too many paint errors
- bloody, then fleshy hand variations

And just a question off the subject...

Where is Boba Fett? Will we be getting a figure of him?

Also would love to see more droids.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on May 10, 2005, 08:38 PM
does anyone have the version of anakin #28 without the black circles around his eyes? if so, are these easily found in stores. is the black paint totally removed or is there just a smaller amount? does anyone have comparison pics of the two?

So far as I know, it's just some subtle difference in the paint applications, and I think this may ultimately be akin to the Saga Palpatine with "liver spots".  I remember most of those Palpy's looking ridiculous, like they had a serious case of the chicken pox.  But if you looked at enough of them, you could find some where the spots weren't quite as dark and prominent.  I eventually found a couple nice ones where the spots weren't even all that noticeable.

Such is the case with the "Racoon Anakin", I think.  Those black circles look horrid, so I've been looking through them all for some that aren't so prominently painted.  Found some lighter ones which don't look nearly as bad, but I'm still on the lookout for some that are even better...

Has anyone heard of the Darth Vader/Anakin deluxe figure variations? One has all the armor packaged in the bubble and visible in the package and the othe has it hidden.

Check page 1 of this thread, goof.  ::)   :-*

As for legitimate "variations", the only two I've heard of so far are the Deluxe Vader/Anakin with the accessories either below, or to the right side of the figure...


Quote
I have looked religeously for the Anakin #2 with Dooku saber and have not been able to find one anywhere.

It's just now trickling out in some of the new assortments, so just be patient, and it should be as easy to find as the red saber Palpatine change is now...

There's also supposedly a paint difference on Anakin's head in the new Vader/Table deluxe figure.  Something like "glossy" and "flat" paint applications...  Saw GH mention something about it a few days ago, I think.

Then there's another intentional variant with the Vulture Droid too, as it's showing up with two different color schemes (ala the Royal Guard).
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on May 11, 2005, 01:25 AM
Looks like there's yet another intentional color variant for army building purposes, this time on the new Wookiee Warrior.  He's apparently shipping in both light tan, and darker brown versions.  Oy!
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SilverZ on May 11, 2005, 01:56 AM
Good. More intentional variations. That should make my search for them even more fun. I'm really, really enjoying this.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on May 11, 2005, 01:57 AM
Is there any confirmation on the reported color change to the SP Wook that's now boxed with the AT-RT?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Pete_Fett on May 11, 2005, 07:19 AM
And GH also is also confirming reports that the Deluxe Clone 3-Pack will have a version with different paint-ops...

http://www.galactichunter.com/photo.asp?image=absolutenm/articlefiles/4447-001.jpg

I recognize the kneeling Commander Gree grunt - but the other two I have no idea.

Thankfully, neither variation is a Blue or Red Shocktrooper - which could mean those paint-ops could end up being running changes to the SA Clone #41
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DoctorPadawan on May 11, 2005, 03:15 PM
Quote
Looks like there's yet another intentional color variant for army building purposes, this time on the new Wookiee Warrior.  He's apparently shipping in both light tan, and darker brown versions.  Oy!

I can officially confirm this with my own two (or four if you're all Ogre and hate NEEERRRRRDS) eyes.  I just got back from Target where they had apparently put out one case of 41-44 (guess which figure was nowhere to be found by the time I got there?).  ::)

Anyway, they had two Wookiees on the pegs: one was the tan version (which I had found yesterday in a bit of dumb luck) and the other was the dark brown version, which I picked up.  So, if Target's pegs are to be believed, these are shipped equally in a case, unlike the Royal Guard.

I'd also like to say for the record that that goddamned 41 Clone is probably going to be giving me headaches for the rest of the summer.  DICKY MO....DICKY MO!  ;D
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on May 11, 2005, 03:25 PM
But what about the SP Wook? Someone said the one that's tossed in to the BARC as a "bonus figure" has a different color, but their pics didn't look that way. Has anyone seen pics that show the SP looking different from its original carded release??
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: aliasjcb on May 25, 2005, 05:36 PM
Just a question abou the Vader Operating Table deluxe figure. I have one that his head is all burned, scarred but I did see some at the store where it is pretty smooth, just bald. Are there a couple of variants of this figure?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: jediscar on May 25, 2005, 05:45 PM
For the Vader variation, I've heard of 3:  matte, dirty gloss, clean gloss.  I don't know if these are permatent changes or just paint application differences.

For those of you looking for #41, I saw lots of them in the San Diego region over the past weekend.

Does anyone know if there will be a red-sabered Palpatine with his own lightsaber, rather than the anakin/vader saber he now has??
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Famine on May 25, 2005, 05:50 PM
You noticed that too? Thats one of the main reasons I passed on this one. I want horribly disfigured or nothing at all! >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on May 25, 2005, 09:51 PM
There's supposedly been a slight (intentional) color modification to the Dooku saber that's included with Anakin, going from a pinkish hue, to more of a red:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/JayDouble/Internet/AnakinSaber.jpg)

Take that as you will.  Might happen to the Dooku figure as well, no idea.  I'll have to see a couple in person to decide if it's something I want to go after.

And John, scroll back a page or two, as I think I mentioned somewhere that the Deluxe Vader indeed does come with different noggins, which are just as scar mentioned above: Flat and very battle scarred, glossy with a wash effect to it, and glossy and clean.  Sounds like those are the chronological order they were released in as well, so the really jacked up version will likely be the tougher one to find.

Also, it looks like we never mentioned the #36 Exploding Grievous change.  They moved his lightsaber from the left side of the bubble (mostly hidden by the insert picture) over to the right side of the bubble where it's much easier to see.  I've seen the revised version a number of times in the past couple weeks, since it's been shipping in the newer assortments.
Title: r.o.t.s. basic figures discrepencies
Post by: transam on May 26, 2005, 08:23 PM
hi,
does any one know the difference between the anakin figure #2 and the anakin figure #2 with count dooku lightsaber. apperently the one with dooku l.s. is more valuable.
other mentions are the royal guard difference of red and blue.
another would be the palpatine figure that has the blue lightsaber instead of the red one.
does anyone know the actual production numbers on these odd ball items i would like to know how much less they made of these.
carmine
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on May 26, 2005, 08:31 PM
I merged your post in here with the rest of the figure variation discussion, transam.

For now, no one knows the production numbers on any of these items, and it's probably a little too early to tell which versions of the figures you asked about are going to be more "valuable".

So far, the Red Royal Guard has definitely been a tougher find than the Blue one though, I can tell you that much...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jim on May 27, 2005, 07:30 AM
Man I sure hope with alot of new faces in these forums we dont start getting the how much is this worth, is this rare crap.  Im cringing.   Ive seen quite a few over the last week. We dont need another infested fan site ::)  Heres a prediction. These are toys people and wont be worth squat. 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on May 27, 2005, 08:51 AM
I have to agree with you.  I had prepared a long answer to that post and just as I was posting the thread got moved and I couldn't post it, so I gave up.

These are toys for people that like them.  Like I was going to write some figures are not even worth $3 and some things (ARC-170) are "worth" more than we pay.  But in the end very few of us are going to pay a lot for things since their worth is purely philosophical.

The truth is that you can buy a lot of 50 AOTC figures for like $40 on ebay.  So that tells you right there, these figures are worth crap in a few years and that is fine by me. ;D

I truly hope not to read anymore "what is it worth" threads.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: transam on May 28, 2005, 07:44 PM
i just want to clarify something, i didnt post a "how much is this" post. i am new to collecting star wars figures and just thought somebody would know the production numbers on some of these figures. not for money purpuses, but to tell me my chances of finding an odd ball figure. to be honest with you i actually like these figures for what they are, just toys. so before you think i'm infesting your website, go back and read my original post and you'll see what im asking. i thought the idea of having a "collecting" category, was to ask questions that others would have the answer to.
carmine
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on May 28, 2005, 08:40 PM
Well, I know most collectors don't like to see or hear "value/worth" related questions, since it tends to make them think that others are collecting or buying things for the "wrong" reasons.  But though this topic is somewhat taboo and often frowned upon on a collecting board, it's certainly still allowed.  I guess if you ask that type of question, you just have to be prepared for some potentially negative reactions to it too.

Anyway, hopefully you're more interested in the "personal" value of these things like you said Carmine, but if not, you're still free to ask about them, and maybe if it annoys anybody, they can just ignore it, or perhaps tell you the benefits of collecting for enjoyment instead.  That said, good luck with tracking those items down...

- Matt
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: starpimp on May 31, 2005, 11:09 AM
there seems to be an error on the mos amedda figure.on the back he should have a tongue in his mouth and that is not what it appears to be. has anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Matt_Fury on May 31, 2005, 11:51 AM
Mas Amedda comes with a removable tongue.  It's in the package right next to his head.  I haven't heard of there being a variation where he comes with the tongue in his mouth.  Anyone hear of this?

Transam, I don't know production numbers, but a simple rule to follow is that the earlier released figures will be the more rare when it comes to variations.  Errors like the Palpatine with Blue Saber, Anakin with generic red saber, will be more rare than Palpatine with Red Saber and Anakin with Dooku saber, respectively.

BTW, I think it would be nice to see sith sabers that are red as compared to the pinkish ones out now.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on May 31, 2005, 03:14 PM
I didn't even knew the figure had a removable tongue.  I guess I will have to look at it today and maybe even buy it :o
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: bobafett14 on June 1, 2005, 03:43 PM
Vulture Droid variation:

What are you guys finding on thos one?  I've seen the brown/greyish one a few places, only found one blue/black variation at KB.

Thanks.


Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on June 1, 2005, 04:11 PM
I don't see the blue one anymore.  I only saw that one at the beggining.  Nowadays I only see the green/brown/grey one.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: cCc2021 on June 2, 2005, 12:36 AM
There's supposedly been a slight (intentional) color modification to the Dooku saber that's included with Anakin, going from a pinkish hue, to more of a red:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/JayDouble/Internet/AnakinSaber.jpg)

Take that as you will.  Might happen to the Dooku figure as well, no idea.  I'll have to see a couple in person to decide if it's something I want to go after.

And John, scroll back a page or two, as I think I mentioned somewhere that the Deluxe Vader indeed does come with different noggins, which are just as scar mentioned above: Flat and very battle scarred, glossy with a wash effect to it, and glossy and clean.  Sounds like those are the chronological order they were released in as well, so the really jacked up version will likely be the tougher one to find.

Also, it looks like we never mentioned the #36 Exploding Grievous change.  They moved his lightsaber from the left side of the bubble (mostly hidden by the insert picture) over to the right side of the bubble where it's much easier to see.  I've seen the revised version a number of times in the past couple weeks, since it's been shipping in the newer assortments.

I thought it went from the red saber to the pinkish saber? I only seen a few of the red ones when the variation started showing up , and now I only see pink sabers.

cCc
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: evenflow on June 2, 2005, 09:56 AM
I don't see the blue one anymore.  I only saw that one at the beggining.  Nowadays I only see the green/brown/grey one.


I have the blue one, but have yet to see the green one. I assumed the green one came out first.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on June 2, 2005, 01:03 PM
I got the blue 2 weeks before the green one.  So I don't know ???
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: starwax137 on June 5, 2005, 03:33 PM
I just found the green one for the first time yesterday. Up until that point, all I'd seen were a bunch of blues.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Diddly on June 5, 2005, 07:00 PM
I saw the green one a few weeks ago, have yet to see the blue.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gregorbian on June 5, 2005, 10:14 PM
Weird, I have yet to see the green one.  Maybe the distribution is somewhat regional (like #23)?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on June 6, 2005, 04:10 AM
There's supposedly been a slight (intentional) color modification to the Dooku saber that's included with Anakin, going from a pinkish hue, to more of a red...

I thought it went from the red saber to the pinkish saber? I only seen a few of the red ones when the variation started showing up , and now I only see pink sabers.

cCc

Yeah, it looks like you're right.  Most of the reports that I saw and heard early on thought it was going from pink to a (corrected) red.  But now that we've been able to review the date stamps on these, it appears to be the other way around.  Strange, as I would think the red saber was the corrected one...

As for the intentional variant on the Deluxe Vulture Droids, all 3 that I've found so far have been the blue-ish version, one from Target a couple weeks ago, and a couple more today at TRU.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on June 6, 2005, 05:10 AM
On a related note, did the Dooku ever come out with the red saber, or has it always just been the "pink" version?  Don't recall hearing anything about a red one for him, but just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CloneF13Y35 on June 6, 2005, 01:08 PM
On a related note, did the Dooku ever come out with the red saber, or has it always just been the "pink" version?  Don't recall hearing anything about a red one for him, but just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed anything...

mine was pink so I traded it with the red saber from my ep2 dooku.
Title: Ani With Dooko sword
Post by: Commander CuDa on June 7, 2005, 09:56 AM
Is the Ani with the dooko sword hard to find I got two of them yesterday
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on June 7, 2005, 11:46 AM
Not really, at least not right now.  It was when they first came out several weeks ago, but since then, I think everybody's been able to find them pretty easily.  I know I've seen a bunch lately.

I think the red saber version is a little harder to find than the "corrected" pink saber version though.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Commander CuDa on June 7, 2005, 12:30 PM
yeh only reason i ask is i seen people saying its hard to find then i find 2 of them ... but then again i went to almost every major shop in town looking for them the last week . Then tonight when i went to fred myers and found them .
Title: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: darkksith on June 18, 2005, 10:59 AM
has anybody here spotted the meena tillis variation / error reported about on the rebelscum main page? by variation, i mean the light cream colored face version. just wondering if this is a widespread variation or some kind of unintentional production error where only a small amount leaked out.
Title: Re: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: DoctorPadawan on June 18, 2005, 03:03 PM
Well, the only one I've actually seen is the one that I found the other day at a local WM, and it's the correct "salmon" colored Tills.  At this point, I'm more worried about finding a decent Tarkin, as the one I picked up (also the only one I have ever seen) looks like a Harvey Dent doppelganger.

I'm thinking that this "light" colored version is at least a production error and at most a running change due to a production error.  To make an intentional variant of a non-army builder that didn't even appear on screen long enough to have anyone other than die-hards say, "That guy looks like Admiral Ackbar!" would be one of the more questionable things that Hasbro has done with their little variant tendencies (which I am thankful beyond belief are done sparingly and appropriately).

That said, Tills makes me wish they would do a new version of Admiral Ackbar sometime in the next few years, preferably with that chair he sat in on the ship in ROTJ.
Title: Re: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: evenflow on June 19, 2005, 09:26 AM
I have not seen it. I would assume the white version came first.
Title: Re: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: Commander CuDa on June 19, 2005, 01:50 PM
If you see one post a pic Id like to see . I have not seeon one version of this fig yet in town.
Title: Re: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: TJD on June 20, 2005, 05:24 PM
has anybody here spotted the meena tillis variation / error reported about on the rebelscum main page? by variation, i mean the light cream colored face version. just wondering if this is a widespread variation or some kind of unintentional production error where only a small amount leaked out.

The light cream colored face is the first version. I found both at a local Meijer store Sunday morning. Here is some Datestamp info.

White Face: DS 50241

Salmon Face: DS 50821
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 22, 2005, 09:15 AM
After looking at that AFA Unleashed Vader that went for big bucks, I checked out what the buyer was bidding on.

ROTS ANAKIN SKYWALKER VADER #50 VARIANT ERROR (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5982536789)
I wonder what my Emperor Palpatine with no Saber packed in would go for.  (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/konfus/a014.gif)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: evenflow on June 22, 2005, 10:05 AM
I cant beleive what some people will pay for an error. I could understand that if it wa sa variant, but hasbro just forgetting to but the lightsaber means that it is worth less to me.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on June 22, 2005, 03:41 PM
I don't understand it either.  Paying for variant, even though obsurb to me, I can see it.  But paying for an incomplete figure?  And $250, yeah right :-X
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: knashdx on June 22, 2005, 04:00 PM
Has anyone confirmed if they just placed it in the plastic behind the picture of Anakin? If you remember to earlier versions of Anakin and 36 Gervious the saber(s) were obscured by the picture of the charecter.
Title: Got any Error Rots (not variations)
Post by: Commander CuDa on June 24, 2005, 01:11 AM
How many errors have you found ? Spelling , parts missing ... If you list a variation of some sort I think there is a diff thread on here for that . I was just curious about off the wall flat out errors and missing parts or weird things like that.

I know of one and somone else pointed it out for me on here... Grievous' Guard is spelled Grievous's Guard. (should be spelled Grievous' Guard)

So theres atleast one spelling screw up . But I wanna see pic's lol missing parts things like that .... post em if ya got em .  ;D
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Commander CuDa on June 24, 2005, 01:54 PM
I can totally understand why people buy a error ... its just like a baseball card ... errors are always wanted and are alot of times big money. If I saw a big error I wold prob want it over an original correct version almost any day... again thats just me. I was hpping to see just errors on this thread not variations. But o well .
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on June 25, 2005, 05:51 PM
Just took some pics of my 2 deluxe Clone Trooper w/Firing Jet Backpack which I picked up here at Zellers on June 14. I never noticed the packaging until the next day.

Both are in Canadian packaging but the one on the right has a US insert with a Tri-Logo backer card and has not been tampered with.

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Clone%200.jpg)

(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Clone%203.jpg)(http://www.telusplanet.net/public/djustus/Clone%205.jpg) 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CorranHorn on June 26, 2005, 01:35 AM
Well I recently found what might be another variant coming from the Tarkin wave. This Tarkin has a red-tinted skirt, which differs from the rest of the uniform's color. It appears that it was casted as such, as the tint appears to be even throughout the whole skirt, including the underside. I took a look at my loose Tarkin and the skirt is definitely casted in the color instead of painted, so I wonder if a bad batch of plastic got into the process. I've only found Tarkin once, when I bought both this carded one and the loose one, so I've not been able to see up close any other figures with this tinted skirt, but all the pics I've seen online show a normal color skirt. The pic I've linked below is pretty big and comes from my scanner, I want to take a better pic with my camera, but it's giving me issues. I think you can see the difference in color though well enough in the scan, what do you think?

ROTS #45 Tarkin Red-Tinted Skirt Variant/Error? (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin_redskirt_big.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread - Red Tinted Skirt on Tarkin?
Post by: CorranHorn on June 27, 2005, 08:13 PM
Some more pics of the red-tinted skirt on Tarkin. My camera sucks, but I think the pics still help to make the skirt's tint pronounced...

Pic 1 (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin1.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin2.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin3.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin4.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://home.comcast.net/~negatech1/tarkin5.jpg)

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on June 28, 2005, 09:09 AM
I really can't tell the tint at all.  Maybe I need to see them side to side.  I've seen a bunch of Tarkins but I passed on the whole wave.  They all seem the same to me unless the tint is so faint you need to stare at it like a 3D art poster.


Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CorranHorn on June 29, 2005, 01:35 AM
yeah the pics arent the best, my camera's just not good enough to pick up the tint.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jesse James on June 29, 2005, 02:02 AM
I picked my Tarkin up and never even noticed till I was examining him closely (after I opened him) for this gig I have.   ::) 

So anyway, Jason's thing about the tint (a pinkish color, very noticeable compared to the pants or shirt of the figure) even breezed past my radar when I picked the figure up but not when I was studying it close.  It's really rather distracting looking.

I have a 2nd Tarkin figure on Lay-away that I gotta go pick up in a while and I'm gonna check him over good.  He's a fodder figure so I'll open him and do some side-by-side comparisons. 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 25, 2005, 09:53 PM
Star Wars ROTS Clone Error / Variant Stormtrooper RARE
ULTRA RARE CLONE TROOPER / STORMTROOPER (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5987664004&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1)

Quote
A note to all bidders: I have been accused of tampering with this product by far too many people who assume that anyone selling such an item is a rip off scam artist. I don't know how this product got the way it is, maybe somebody cast a magic spell to get it this way. All that I can tell you is I bought it from a well known store back in May. I did not tamper with it. If it has been tampered with it was by somebody that works for the store or the factory it came from. Maybe it was Frodo with his magical ring. I am not trying to scam anyone, this is what I bought and I am no collector nor could I possibly have the know how to do the things people are saying I am doing. If you don't like it just don't bid on it and please no more e-mails with false accusations about me. If this is all the star wars collector's are about then I  should just cancel this auction rip this open and give it to my son. 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 26, 2005, 12:36 AM
Call me skeptical, but do you notice how none of the pictures show the top of the bubble?  Perhaps because you'd be able to see evidence of the opened bubble?

It's up to $192 right now, and the reserve still isn't met?  He's full of **** when he says he didn't hope to make a lot of money on this instead of giving it to his son.   ::)

(http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/88/55/2a_12_sb.JPG)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on July 26, 2005, 01:07 AM
Did you notice how beat up the cardback is and is that a bit of a ding/edgeware on the lower left under the tape/bubble hinge?

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/81/70/ee_3.JPG)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on July 26, 2005, 10:37 AM
That is just awesome.

You gotta love this nutjobs that pay incredible amounts of money for pure crap.  At least the reserve was never met.

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CHEWIE on July 26, 2005, 10:50 AM
Well, I have a variation Meena Tills.  Not that I usually go this route, but it's going to ebay.  I'm trying to build up my Paypal account to buy some more stuff from www.owenscustoms.com.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on July 26, 2005, 01:42 PM
I guess we should mention the running change to the #28 Anakin figure, who now has red Sith eyes (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=8710.0), instead of those hideous raccoon eyes that he originally came with.  Nice correction there by Hasbro, as this version looks much better.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on July 27, 2005, 07:05 PM
I don't see the blue one anymore.  I only saw that one at the beggining.  Nowadays I only see the green/brown/grey one.


Anyone have a link to a decent comparison shot of these two Vulture droids together, so I can show a buddy of mine exactly which one I need (green)?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on July 27, 2005, 07:59 PM
I've been lucky enough to get both.  I'll go dig them out of storage and take a pic...

Here we go:

(http://www.jedidefender.com/news/images/7-05/IMG_2088_-_25.JPG)

As you can see, I had to get a US packaged one for the blue version - it wasn't available in good ol' Canada.    ::)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: evenflow on July 27, 2005, 09:34 PM
Has anyone actually found the cream color Meena Tills?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on July 27, 2005, 10:57 PM
Has anyone actually found the cream color Meena Tills?

there's a cream color Meena Tills? y is this not reported on sites like GalacticHunter.com etc? they usually would report variants if it were to be true  ::)
Title: Re: meena tillis variation / error
Post by: Jeff on July 27, 2005, 11:04 PM
there's a cream color Meena Tills? y is this not reported on sites like GalacticHunter.com etc? they usually would report variants if it were to be true ::)

It was reported waaay back in June...


has anybody here spotted the meena tillis variation / error reported about on the rebelscum main page? by variation, i mean the light cream colored face version. just wondering if this is a widespread variation or some kind of unintentional production error where only a small amount leaked out.

Here's the pictures to back it up:

(http://www.collectinghq.com/tn/0005814.jpg)(http://www.collectinghq.com/tn/0005815.jpg)

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2005, 11:36 PM
I have one.  It was acquired for me by the wife, she said it looked different than the other one so she got it.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Diddly on July 27, 2005, 11:41 PM
I'm hearing rumors of a variation in the Anakin Evolution set. Something about painted/unpainted scars on the ROTJ anakin head. Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: CHEWIE on July 27, 2005, 11:49 PM
I haven't seen the variation yet, but a friend at www.coreplanets.com claims to have the scarred version (mine does not have a scar).  He's an honest guy so I see no reason to not believe him.

 :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on August 24, 2005, 12:59 PM
Can anyone confirm that there are 2 versions of the Red Royal Guard??

Shiny helmet/dull helmet???

Or is this just another "made up variant"?

Oh by the way, this is my first post here. There seems to be more ROTS collectors here than ANYWHERE!  ;D
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jayson on August 24, 2005, 01:03 PM
Welcome to JD.com be sure to intro yoour self in the "Newbies Thread"

http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?board=29.0

The variant is true BTW

(http://home.comcast.net./~jedijaybird/RedGuard.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on August 24, 2005, 02:27 PM
Excellent, thanks for confirming Jaybird  :)

Another one to hunt  ::)

Anyone know if the datestamp differs?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jayson on August 24, 2005, 02:31 PM
43561- Dull head

50121 or 50471 - Shiny Head
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on August 24, 2005, 02:38 PM
Is it safe to establish a true variant by a change in the datestamp?
Man, I must really be passing off as a newbie right about now...

 :-[
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jayson on August 24, 2005, 02:58 PM
It's a pretty safe bet but there might not be actual figure changes though. Sometimes it's just a change in the bubble tray (i.e. the change in position of an accessory or how the fig is secured in said bubble).

Good questions, not newbies"ish" at all.

Keep'em comin'
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on August 24, 2005, 03:17 PM
Thinking about it more, it can be a change in anything not just the figure like you said...

For example the "wide bubble" #11 Vader... will most probably have a different date stamp with the noticeable change in manufacture.

But that's something I myself don't consider to be a TRUE variant.
For me it has to be in the figure itself.
It differs for everyone I guess...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on August 25, 2005, 01:17 AM
is the royal guard helmet variant the same with the blue dude??
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on August 25, 2005, 05:07 AM
Not the same.
Just the Red has the variant.
A lot of people are not classing this as a variant.
It clearly is judging from Jaybird's pic.

I myself have yet to see one in hand.

Will shop around for one soon  :'(
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on August 28, 2005, 01:09 PM
Was not going to mention because I don't think it is a variation but interesting. I got 2 Clones a week ago, kept one and gave one to DeanPaul (well sold it to him). DP's had a clean front stripe, and little battle on the EP. III. Mine had distinct battledamage on the front stripe. The two clones I got yesterday had the same battle damage on the stripe. Guess I am wondering if anyone else has seen the clean version? Sorry, no digitial so I cannot take a picture.

From Galatic Hunter you can see the battle damage or scraping on the middle stripe:

http://www.galactichunter.com/absoluteig/gallery.asp?action=viewimage&categoryid=3643&text=&imageid=16121&box=&shownew=
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 9, 2005, 09:46 AM
I noticed a paint variation on the Veers in the Hoth Battle pack. The first set I bought has a black paint stripe on his left leg. It makes it look like something is supposed to be hanging from his belt. The second set I saw, a few days later, did not have the stripe. Anyone else catch this?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on September 10, 2005, 12:07 PM
i thought this was a interesting find at Walmart so i picked it up, a Deluxe General Grievous with 3 lightsabers.. a possible variant???  ::)


(http://www.jusspress.com/photos/21322/20050909/223157.jpg)


(http://www.jusspress.com/photos/21322/20050909/223202.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on September 11, 2005, 12:06 AM
I don't know if some dumbass at Hasbro forgetting to put in the last lightsaber coutns as a variant.  It sounds more like a FUBAR.

Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: DSJ™ on September 11, 2005, 12:10 AM
It would be a factory error, I picked up a Emperor Palpatine with no Saber. Pretty cool tho.  8)
Title: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: knashdx on September 13, 2005, 12:42 PM
We have all heard of the error on the Battle Pack of the Jedi vs. Sith that say's STORMTROOPER Armor instead of Clonetrooper. This past weekend I purchased 2 more battle packs and noticed a few errors.


Emperor's Throne Room
(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/85839_pk.jpg)

This is the front of the battle pack, but if you will look at the back you will notice that there is a different DIGNITARY shown. (circled in RED)

(http://www.ryan-adriene.com/Display/backofbox2.jpg)


Hoth Assult
(http://www.hasbro.com/common/images/news/starwars/85841_pk.jpg)

But if you look at the back of the box the General Veers shown is the VINTAGE figure not the one that was previously released. (circled in RED)

(http://www.ryan-adriene.com/Display/backofbox1.jpg)


The fact that there are 3 battle packs with errors and the Clone trooper Evolution pack has a spelling error on it (Hasbro put REBUBLIC instead of REPUBLIC) that Hasbro's quality control is either going to crap or they don't give a ****.
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Gatillo on September 13, 2005, 03:52 PM
I think it is clear they just don't care.  The truth is that they could put out corrected versions further down the line b/c they know some people "will" have to buy them.

Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2005, 05:20 PM
(I think this belongs in the ROTS section)

I can understand the mistake on the throne room, it is possible they switched the dignitary out at the last second. Or there will be a variation where the other dignitary is included.

I baffled as to how a Vintage figure ended up on the back of the other one though. I don't think they'd have even considered using that figure in the pack. That is just carelessness.
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: ruiner on September 13, 2005, 05:20 PM
Tough call.  I'm sure it's difficult to find samples in time to complete the box photography...sometimes you have to make due with what you have laying around!   :P
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: CHEWIE on September 13, 2005, 05:27 PM
Well the TIE Fighter is a simlar situation too.  It shows a different pilot on the back of the box versus what is really packed in.

The AT-AT driver though, that's just weird... someone there had to have done that on purpose.

 :P
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 13, 2005, 05:32 PM
I think it is clear they just don't care.

One need only look at the TRU Exclusive Obi-Wan Jedi Starfighter to figure this out, Gatillo.  Wrong droid pictured in all the shots on the box, an obviously phoned-in battle damage paint job, and most offensive of all is the inclusion of a completely inaccurate label sheet for another toy that Hasbro pretty much refuses to admit the blame for, much less correct to keep customers happy.

As I've said before, their motto is "Hasbro: We Really Do Care" but these days, it should probably be "Hasbro: **** You, Pay Us."
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: ruiner on September 13, 2005, 06:02 PM

 an obviously phoned-in battle damage paint job,



Heh, heh - classic.

"Yeah, China?  This is Hasbro U.S. - let's talk about the battle damaged paint ops on the TRU Obi Wan Jedi Starfighter."  "First one needs to be a grey looking battle blurb on the right wing...."
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: DoctorPadawan on September 13, 2005, 09:12 PM
Heh, heh - classic.

"Yeah, China?  This is Hasbro U.S. - let's talk about the battle damaged paint ops on the TRU Obi Wan Jedi Starfighter."  "First one needs to be a grey looking battle blurb on the right wing...."

Okay, so the verbiage I used wasn't the best in the world.  :P  ;)

I was referring to the fact that the other three JSFs all had unique battle damage patterns applied, and the Obi-Wan TRU version simply used the same scheme as Anakin's yellow JSF.  So, essentially, redundant detail scheme, incorrect label sheet, and (insignificant) packaging errors paled in comparison to Hasbro's unwillingness to admit to or correct their mistake.

Anyway, as for errors on the Battle Packs, I think the most obvious ones are one set being called "JEDI VS. SITH" when there isn't a single Sith in the set (Ventress doesn't count) and another set (that actually has a Sith in it) being called "JEDI VS. SEPARATISTS" when Maul was dead by the time the Separatist movement had taken shape.

Why is it I feel like all those people I made fun of for their "Who would win in a fight: Chewbacca or Borg" arguments all of a sudden?   ;D
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Diddly on September 14, 2005, 12:05 AM
I think Hasbro went lazy on these because they're last minute rush jobs to get figures out. I mean, we've all read the collector's displeasure in these sets. Hasbro and collectors must have the same mindset with these. :P
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: knashdx on September 14, 2005, 11:24 AM
I think it is clear they just don't care.

"Hasbro: **** You, Pay Us."

I think this sums it up rather well!!!

In the last 6 months there have been a TON of errors that Hasbor has done. Either out os stupidity or sheer laziness. Hasbro wonders why the toy market is dying and they are loosing money just like all other toy company's...it's because they don't care about their customers!!!
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Darth_Anton on September 14, 2005, 12:36 PM
I blame it on the illegal imigrant graphic designers.
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Jayson on September 14, 2005, 12:41 PM
I blame it on the illegal imigrant graphic designers.
;D
Title: Re: Battle Pack Error's
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 08:54 PM
I find that a little ofensive, I happen to be from anothercountry as well as others and yeah they are some acquaintances I have that do not have papers but are more hard working and have a higher ethic than some people that where born here.

 >:(
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Tijuanajedi on September 14, 2005, 10:09 PM
I just have the Ani with dooku saber & Palpi w/ blue saber.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Alas-1 on September 15, 2005, 09:14 AM
Discovered a new Variant guys!

Anakin #2 with red (TRANSPARANT) saber!?

Picked it up today in my local supermarket (in the UK).

It's not the solid red and it's DEFINITELY not the clear pink.
It's a clear RED.

I'd post a picture but I just won't be able to get a clean shot of the color I don't think
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jeff on October 3, 2005, 04:21 PM
Sounds like a treasure trove of variants have been found with Bly so far...

I've seen reports of Bly with:
- Yellow Shoulder Rings and Yellow Ankle Rings
- Yellow Shoulder Rings and White Ankle Rings
- White Shoulder Rings and White Ankle Rings

Sounds like it might even be possible to see them with mixed yellow/white shoulder parts due to the way that the change was implemented...  :-\
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on October 3, 2005, 11:06 PM
Guess I'll have to look at the feet joints of my Bly. The arms have the yellow arm pits which is a great trade cause now the stripe goes up the outside of the arm. I'm happy with the one I got and am glad I don't chase variants.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jeff on October 24, 2005, 10:05 AM
Sounds like the little R4-P17 Astromech in the Final 12 is shipping with 2 different numbers:

#68 R4-P17 (error)
#64 R4-P17 (corrected)

I would assume then that they will eventually correct the Wookiee Heavy Gunner too since he is on the other end of the number switch...

#64 Wookiee Heavy Gunner (error)
#68 Wookiee Gunner (correct)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JediMAC on October 25, 2005, 02:04 AM
I'm really becoming rather disinterested in collecting Hasbro's constant errors and variants, especially when they're occurring on the near impossible to find Bly figure.  I'm contemplated just ditching all of my error/variant figures at this point, due to lack of interest, and totaly annoyance with Hasbro's constant ineptitude...  ::)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: JesseVader08 on October 25, 2005, 04:23 PM
I'm really becoming rather disinterested in collecting Hasbro's constant errors and variants, especially when they're occurring on the near impossible to find Bly figure.

I've decided that I'm only interested in intentional variants/repaints.  It's just so much easier on my sanity that way.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on October 28, 2005, 03:21 PM
i had a question about the #41 SA clone. there was a post (with pics) on the belt variation of this figure a day or two ago in another thread either on this site or 'scum. for the life of me i cannot find it. i wanted to see pics of the differences of the belts. correct me if i'm wrong but is one of the versions of this actually the belt that normally comes on the #6 clone? if i remember, wasn't one of the belt versions supposedly upside down? if anyone has comparison pics, please post. thanks.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jayson on November 15, 2005, 09:18 AM
I saw this story on POTF2.com so I scanned it for myself

On the Back of the Holo Plo Koon Card… look at Commander Gree's name

(http://home.comcast.net/~jedijaybird/66error.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Nirvana on November 19, 2005, 05:54 PM
Hasbro is so stupid... ::)...CAommander Gree...don't they proofread their cardbacks?!
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on November 19, 2005, 07:08 PM
interesting... ;D
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jayson on November 21, 2005, 09:57 AM
New Bly Variant additional battle damage and helmet paint ops…

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Another_Bly_Variation_Found_95950.asp
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darth_Ice on November 21, 2005, 03:03 PM
Hey I have been looking through the thread..how come no one has brought upm the AT-RT Driver with all grey face? I thouhgt this was just a rumor untill..I found 4 at my Toys R us today..Stupid me..I had to go home and check the one at rt driver I had..sure enough the one I have has like a white vidsor panted over his eyes..as wher the othe just has all grey..So i ran back down there hoping that they were still there.....and they were thank god..I let some use my ditigal camera..so i cant take any pictures..
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jeff on November 21, 2005, 03:19 PM
Hey I have been looking through the thread..how come no one has brought upm the AT-RT Driver with all grey face?

That was covered in a separate thread about the AT-RT Driver...

#54 AT-RT Driver - Which one is the right one? (http://www.jedidefender.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=9066.0)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on November 22, 2005, 07:25 AM
Dammit, I thought my ROTS shopping days were over. I'll need this "corrected" Bly. Is it really more movie accurate?

Bugger! If this Gree variant looks better, I'll have to get that too. >:( But I'll probably return my other Gree and Bly. Bly's finger is about to rip off, anyway, from jamming it into the little trigger guard on the pistol.

As soon as I get these, the damned Twins and TSC will probably be out. :(
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Clone Commander on November 26, 2005, 10:09 PM
Did anybody notice the Clone Commanders (Red and Blue and Bly), they re hands are way too loose and cant hold a blaster worth crap?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on November 27, 2005, 12:16 AM
Yep
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: rishakra on November 27, 2005, 01:49 PM
You know the hard part about the latest Gree and Bly variants (besides they are cool and the ROTS line is ending soon) is that it's extra hard to get online.  It's not like Amazon.com will spell this one out.   I live for clones and this is going to drive me crazy...I thought I was done!  I've got to figure out a way to trade for these suckers...
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Darby on November 28, 2005, 02:41 AM
It blows my mind they fixed the visor on Gree, but not that inaccurate helmet deco.   ::)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 06:44 AM
A visor on Gree isn't going to fix the ****** black paint aps, the inaccurate paint on the helmet, the lack of a holster/greeblies on his uniform, the ****** camo paintjob...

List goes on but basically look for a review in the near future on this POS. :)

I've been buying Bly figures to remove the visor so I can build up his "squad" a little bit (since finding Evo sets here is impossible) using the Bly figure itself.  I like the variation but now I too am sorta hell bent on getting this latest one if it's the most accurate.  I can't even really tell the difference (I haven't looked hard) but now I want it.  ::)

Gree can suck a nut though.  The only justification I've found for buying Gree figures is to BS them as some kind of EU troopers he has in his squad.  I'm still waiting on "Gree" to start ground pounding for my republic military.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on November 28, 2005, 12:11 PM
I too am sorta hell bent on getting this latest one if it's the most accurate.  I can't even really tell the difference (I haven't looked hard) but now I want it.  ::)

There's a sort of brown stripe laid overtop the the yellow one that runs vertically down his middle. It's not much of a difference, but when side-by-side (http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/Blyvariation3-2.jpg) you can see it. And since it seems to be more movie accurate (you can see those markings right on the CGI Bly on the Hasbro package), I want it. It actually matches his pauldron now, so I guess it was always supposed to be his commander color. There's more battle damage on the new one too. Much bigger differences than the new Gree. Found Gree but no Bly yet. Can't believe I'm hunting ROTS figs again.....  :'(
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jesse James on November 28, 2005, 07:38 PM
Oi...  I'm on the hunt too now.  I buy Bly's like I bought red and green Commanders.  I army build, and for Bly his troops looked pretty much like him so buying multiples isn't much of a hard decision for me really...  I just cut the visor pegs off so he looks better/trooper like.

I just now know I want that one as my core Bly figure.  :( 
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on November 28, 2005, 07:45 PM
I just cut the visor pegs off so he looks better/trooper like.

I would do that too, but Bly has a lot more yellow markings on his armor than his troops, plus the difference in pauldron and belt color. And those thingies on his pauldron stap, um...thing.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Kill_Solo on November 30, 2005, 03:34 AM
I have the original Bly and the corrected Bly sitting on my desk side by side and the corrected Bly is 10 times better than it's predecessor. The two tone of the corrected Bly just makes the figure pop. The original Bly is totally like BLEH to me now.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on December 1, 2005, 01:04 AM
I've looked at literally over 24 Blys since Nov. 23, and I have yet to see a difference. Can anyone help me to know what to look for when identifying the variant Bly?
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Jesse James on December 1, 2005, 01:51 AM
I would do that too, but Bly has a lot more yellow markings on his armor than his troops, plus the difference in pauldron and belt color. And those thingies on his pauldron stap, um...thing.

Given the diversity in the pauldrons and things of Bly's grunts, I've suspended disbelief about the decoes being too similar to bly's and just accept them as troops.  I figure that variance among the colors/patterns would've been likely.

Bly seems to stand out in the crowd actually anyway just by his visor.  I'm wondering what gun he sported in the movie though, I forget and I'm too lazy to bust out my DVD.  I want him lugging the right Jedi Cleanser for any set-up of course. :)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on December 1, 2005, 01:54 AM
I've looked at literally over 24 Blys since Nov. 23, and I have yet to see a difference. Can anyone help me to know what to look for when identifying the variant Bly?

yea me too, cant seem to notice any difference in the trooper  ???
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darkksith on December 1, 2005, 10:24 AM
ckeck out this link i included. it shows the new bly with the dark brown stripes running down the length of the thighs and the dark brown center stripe on the helmet running from the back all the way down to the bottom of the chin on the helmet. it is now movie accurate. i just received mine in a trade and it is 100% better than the original in my opinion.

http://www.rebelscum.com/story/actionfigure/another_bly_variation_found_95950.asp
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on December 1, 2005, 07:54 PM
I'm wondering what gun he sported in the movie though, I forget and I'm too lazy to bust out my DVD.  I want him lugging the right Jedi Cleanser for any set-up of course. :)

(http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbly/img/movie_bg.jpg)

Looks like the Evo rifle.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on December 2, 2005, 12:08 AM
I am beginning to think that these have come and gone
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darth punkinhed on December 31, 2005, 06:39 PM
I want your opinions on a bly figure. I checked the picture on RS and compared mine to the two shown there. Mine shares qualities with both but doesn't really match either in my opinion. What do you guys think? Is this just the original release or another variation? On the first one I don't show a black stripe on his chest but on the corrected there is one. Mine has that black stripe. On the corrected there are brown stripes on the helmet and the leg. Mine does not have those brown stripes. Here's a pic of mine. It's a bit blurry but you should be able to compare what any of you have and the RS pic. Let me know what you think.

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/cgaver/bly.jpg)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: TheBlackDog65 on January 3, 2006, 07:57 AM
Based on what I have seen, this is the older version, not the corrected one. I didn't find one (then again, I didn't look real hard either) so at this time, I have given up on finding the Bly variation.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: OCEAN on January 3, 2006, 11:36 AM
  I have both versions of Bly. That one is the older version.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: darth punkinhed on January 3, 2006, 12:00 PM
I got to looking around a bit more and it seems to me that there are more than the two variants. When I first got to looking at mine compared to online photos it seemed that the first one was just really clean and the second one had battle damage and the brown stripe. Mine has battle damage but no stripe. That's neither here nor there, I just noticed mine had chest damage that wasn't visible on the ones I was seeing posted as the original release. But apparently there are also white hinge and yellow hinge versions going around as well. It seems to me that there are at least 3 variations on this figure, white rings, yellow rings and yellow rings with the brown stripe/ battle damage markings. The link below shows a white ring and a yellow ring version. Both appear to be before they added the brown strip and battle damage to the figure.

 (http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-ROTS-COMMANDER-BLY-BOTH-VARIANTS_W0QQitemZ6026642494QQcategoryZ50263QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gorkoracing on January 18, 2006, 12:13 PM
I have several errors I picked up in this line

4 lightsaber grievous with left blue lightsaber loose in package
4 lightsaber grievous with right blue lightsaber loose in package
decapitated battle droid
mon mothma with shaak ti insert
at-rt driver with hand cut off
zett jukassa with picture insert kinda sideways in package

and i think i got a few more

I managed to pick up every variation including minor bubble variations except for the first inner bubble zett jukassa and the corrected r4p17 (i have 3 different font sticker versions and the error but never a correct one)
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: jokabofe on January 22, 2006, 12:10 AM
Anybody notice the variation on the 501st with more battle damage on the leg? Kinda cheesy, it's literally 1 more line of black paint. You would think that the 5 - 7 year olds that Hasbro pays .25 per hour to paint these figures would have good eyesight at such a young age and not make so many damn mistakes.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: SpudTrooper on January 22, 2006, 11:19 AM
Anybody notice the variation on the 501st with more battle damage on the leg? Kinda cheesy, it's literally 1 more line of black paint. You would think that the 5 - 7 year olds that Hasbro pays .25 per hour to paint these figures would have good eyesight at such a young age and not make so many damn mistakes.

i agree..doesnt count as a solid "variant" in my collecting book  :P
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Ook on February 15, 2006, 09:25 AM
So I've had the error Bly sitting here basically bringing up the rear in my little Star Corp squad, thinking of him as lieutenant or Bly's second in command or something. I sill haven't decided whether to cut the binocs off or otherwise alter him. I popped ROTS in the player yesterday to get a look at the group, but couldn't really see anything we haven't seen in the pic (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/commanderbly/img/movie_bg.jpg) from the official site. I am reminded that some of them have their pauldrons on the opposite shoulder, though... ??? Anyone have that clone issue of the Insider? Does it go into any detail about Star Corp ranking? What's with the opposite-facing pauldrons? Any details anyone can shed on the group? I'd like some ideas on what I might do with this guy.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: 77Skywalker on March 27, 2006, 09:49 AM
There is an error with ROTS action figure #1 Obi-Wan Kenobi - Slashing Attack.  His lightsaber hilt is correct but apparently the ignited lightsaber is the wrong one.  It's the one from TPM and AOTC.  The same with the Mustafar duel Obi-Wan and the others in which this figure was released.  The ignited lightsaber should have been the one from ROTS and ANH.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: Gatillo on March 27, 2006, 02:25 PM
Hey it happens.  Hasbro can never get lightsabers right.  Oh well, trouble for the variation hunters.
Title: Re: ROTS variation/error thread
Post by: 77Skywalker on July 3, 2006, 01:25 AM
Although I don't have this figure at all or maybe not yet, maybe a good variant for the 501st legion clone trooper might be having one version with a blaster and a variant with a rifle