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TV-9D9 / Re: The Clone Wars - Season Three Discussion Thread
« on: February 22, 2011, 03:11 AM »
I haven't seen the episode, and I haven't seen the note we're referencing that Even Piell is played by a woman. However, I know the original character in Episode I was played by a female actor in make-up as a male character. Could there be some confusion, and they merely mean the original on-screen Even Piell was a female while the voice actor in the episode is male? Again, I've seen neither the episode nor the note, so I could be talking crazy.

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TV-9D9 / Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« on: February 8, 2011, 11:11 AM »
Yeah, Asajj has an easy out now. Dooku is done with her. She'd be smart not to make herself seen in Episode III. Hell, maybe she or someone else gives Bane a better offer to be a problem for the Separatists and he too decides discretion from the other side of the galaxy is the better part of valor. We're talking about people who will kill you when they're not happy with you, so it's not hard to see someone getting very far from them.

I bet you the eventual "ROTS special edition" has a digital Ahsoka running around in the background on Coruscant. ::)

I could easily see Lucas add her into the movie. It wouldn't take much. But I'd really rather see Vader hunt her down during the time between Episode III and IV. Maybe it could even be something they'd do if the live action television show makes it off the ground before a very senior citizen Daniel Logan fifty years from now needs to be de-aged by CGI to reprise Boba Fett.

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TV-9D9 / Re: The Clone Wars - Season Three Discussion Thread
« on: February 8, 2011, 10:55 AM »
So the commentary talks about these three episodes being metaphor, and Filoni mentions the cave on Dagobah, and how they needed to keep that in mind while writing it. Whether or not it felt like that, that was the intent.

I figure the reason Obi-Wan didn't make a big deal about Qui-Gon is fairly easy to explain. Jedi have visions and dreams all the time. They're nothing to make a big deal of. It'd be like you or I wondering if someone in our dream last night was really there or a dream. When Yoda tells Obi-Wan he'll be communing with Qui-Gon, I suppose Obi-Wan figures Yoda knows the difference between a vision and actual contact from beyond death.

I see the Force Wielders in three possible ways. Maybe they're basically nobodies, and they've convinced themselves this whole balance issue is all about them, and actually nothing they do has any effect on anything. Maybe they're one small part of balancing the Force, so while Son's winning may have tipped the scales more toward imbalance, it simply makes it harder to balance it later. Finally, maybe this is way more abstract than any of that. Maybe none of this meant anything and this was simply the way the three of them interpreted the Force letting them know the imbalance was becoming greater and they should do more to act against it. Given that metaphor was intended, I'm leaning toward the latter.

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Kind of a bummer on Frix's astro not being right.

I'm not too much of a stickler for getting things perfect, so I just mentally dismiss it as being another astromech assigned to Frix, not the one he had at Endor. Maybe the one we got in this set is his usual astromech that was out for repairs. But it would have been nice to get the one from the movie. I assume this design was just thrown together by Hasbro's people.

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There's a couple other A-Wingers, I think 1 or 2 Y-Wingers...  B-Wingers are just standing around on Home 1 but so far they only made one from the movie and one from EU.  I could see it being more diverse than just orange then.  Yavin has the most with lines though, for certain.

Certainly there are more, but it seems more likely--certainly at least to the author of the original comment--that X-wing orange pilots would round out the packs. Either way, he was describing the hypothetical content of a pack without the astromechs and TIE pilots rather than the current content that has merely one orange jumpsuit.

For my part, I'd guess if they had gotten rid of the astromechs and TIE pilots, they'd probably have expanded the scope of the packs to all three original movies, which would most likely mean more orange. But it's all just guessing.

I love the inclusion of astromechs. Not only were they the largest draw to me in these sets, but I'd like to have dedicated astromechs for every X- and Y-wing pilot I have. It's too bad I'm such a lazy customizer.

I do wish they'd paid more attention to the movie where Frix's astromech is barely viewable behind his head, has a white paint job with dark panels and may even be an R5.

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aside from the fact that only one set has an orange pilot in it...

I figure he's assuming removal of two astromechs and two TIE Fighter pilots would likely involve their being replaced by orange pilots since there aren't many remaining (if any?) pilots of other colors.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Republic Attack Shuttle
« on: January 26, 2011, 01:43 AM »
I don't think this is supposed to be in the $100 price range, more like the cancelled deluxe series range. But the way prices go up, who knows?

I largely agree. Clone Wars Y-wings were--what?--sixty? As much as I wanted to get one, not when forty more dollars gets me a BMF range vehicle. Between the Jedi Starfighter range vehicles and the BMF range vehicles, prices have been a little high I think.

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However, there are a few facts to consider here:

#1 - they make a pretty good margin on these items.  I'm sure that while lower, they still make a nice profit selling three sets (or more) per household
#2 - they cancelled everyone's orders.  I know some people ordered 4 or more of these, so if it was just all about money I'd be surprised that they don't want to sell any of these.   Yes, they could just post them again when they are in stock, but who knows if they would sell out after this backlash?  Seems risky from a financial perspective.
#3 - they were still willing to offer me the promotional price if/when these become available online.  They even came up with a  creative offer if I could find them at retail.  

Seems like a lot of evidence to support that they just couldn't fill the orders on time and unwisely dropped the orders without communicating very well.

Sure, but this is the Internet, so why assume a mistake was honest and unforeseeable when we can assume a premeditated attempt to swindle us?

We could at least give TRU the benefit of the doubt and assume that if they really were worried about selling these during a sale that they would have had the foresight to post them after the sale. As it is, I can see no reason not to assume they intentionally put these out during the sale as an incentive to buy, so they could be just as annoyed as we are that the product wasn't there. There's a good deal of motivation in retail to increase the number of items per transaction even at the expense of discounting the total sale.

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: February 3, 2009, 02:32 PM »
The only thing about this episode I didn't like was the fact that they chose Talz for this story. I know Lucas has no need to adhere to established EU, which includes Foul Moudama as a Talz Jedi, but as Jesse James said, they could be an isolated, primitive population of the species. It just seems dialogue could have been changed only slightly and fixed everything. They didn't have to be called creatures, and if Obi-Wan had mentioned encountering Talz before, it would have been more believable that he would be able to negotiate a meeting.

Otherwise, everything was pretty cool.

Sorry for my brocken english.

What's your native language? I'm certain you speak English better than I speak your language, even if it's one I've studied, so no worries. Anyone who learns this crazy language after their own language has my respect.

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: January 13, 2009, 02:20 AM »
I won't comment too much on the most recent two episodes, since most of my thoughts have been covered. I'm in the camp that thought the episodes were okay, not much to laud, not much to loathe. I'm really looking forward to the coming episode. The previews didn't really make Aayla feel important to the episode, but descriptions seem to imply she's going to get almost as much to do as Luminara in her episode.

It would be nice to see more previously established background and EU Jedi like Bultar Swan, Qunilan Vos, K'Kruhk or maybe even some more obscure ones.. I don't care if it's just a shot of a crowd of Jedi full of Easter egg cameos.

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: January 2, 2009, 01:26 AM »
Pretty cool read. The section about Ahsoka and Plo in Episode III was a good laugh, and it's really cool that they try to be creative in working around contradicting stories like Grievous's origin. The teasers for upcoming episodes were great, but the word deleted was starting to give me conniptions. What?!? What was deleted? ;D

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: December 19, 2008, 12:40 AM »
No, your time constraint point is certainly a valid argument, and I'd even agree with it. I just think there's a lot more to it.

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: December 18, 2008, 07:25 AM »
I think it goes deeper than the time constraint issue. George Lucas needed to describe the Jedi as having a flaw that would mean their downfall. He decided it would be arrogance, and he proceeded to show us how their arrogance allowed them to fall prey to a labyrinthine plot that unfolds over decades and involves whole governments moving to the plans of a master manipulator. While Lucas certainly made mistakes with some plot holes and continuity errors within Sidious's plan, he put in the effort to show that it took a very, very elaborate deception to get past the Jedi.

Now, however, it seems writers use this arrogance as a crutch for lazy writing. If they don't feel like putting forth the effort to show an elaborate plot, they'll have the Jedi fall for anything. If asked they simply say, "The Jedi are arrogant." The Jedi can do any stupid or callous thing convenient to the plot simply because, "Well, the Jedi are arrogant, you see." And what's best is we don't even expect something elaborate or creative, because we just accept this arrogance. In fact, the greatest disservice is to the Jedi. The Jedi now come off as so arrogant, so completely removed from reasonable behavior, that it seems less like a tragedy that they were wiped out and more like a good thing that the galaxy was rid of the inexcusably criminally negligent. This episode wasn't too bad. Luminara didn't come off as a complete loss, but I think her situation here does reflect some of the exaggeration of the Jedi's flaw that has allowed nearly every background Jedi to go to the Darkside and/or completely bungle simple activities.

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: December 16, 2008, 12:55 AM »
Last week's episode was similarly good, but like I said it had a more military touch to it, and I liked that a lot...

It occurs to me I never really commented on last week's episode. I enjoyed the episode. I get the feeling I'm always going to have to comment on liking the lightsaber stuff in this series. There were little novel bits like the split Ahsoka performs, or Ventress' using her 'sabers to descend the turbolift shaft, and all of it continues to be on par with Episode III and far and away better than the pisspoor lightsaber work of Episode II.

My one complaint was the portrayal of Luminara. For a person who changes her assessment of the situation one-eighty inside of two seconds, she's adamant about selling whatever the current version is. One moment Ventress is no match for her (and honestly, Luminara holds her ground even with a gout of steam in her eye), and Ahsoka isn't remotely needed. The next, Ventress is so powerful as to shake her confidence to the point where she undermines her own authority in a distracting confessional in the middle of the battle. I'm all for admitting to one's mistakes, even to subordinates; it shows maturity. However, you should do it after the crisis, and you should remember that you need to balance that with the fact that you are in charge and need to maintain at least some amount of authority after admitting your mistakes. Luminara all but submits to Ahsoka. I could almost hear Eyore-like her thinking "Why bother?"

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TV-9D9 / Re: Star Wars: The Clone Wars Series Discussion Thread
« on: December 15, 2008, 07:19 AM »
The lightsaber duels were quite cool, especially when Kit grabbed the second lightsaber. I still can't forgive Episode III for doing absolutely nothing with Grievous's four-armed lightsaber potential.

I think my favorite part of the episode, though, was when the clones fired the grapple lines onto Grievous. The scene seemed to animalize Grievous, like he was just some dumb beast they were taking down.

Of course it was cool to see the Sith engage Jedi in a way where the heroes were basically incidental, just parts of the overall plan and not the actual targets. And it was cool to continue to get episodes about characters other than Anakin, Obi-Wan, etc. It's definitely a strength of this series.

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