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Revenge of the Sith / Re: EP3 Clonetroopers
« on: September 3, 2005, 02:24 PM »
Wasn't Merumeru the Preview Wookiee?

The Preview Wookiee is most likely Salporin.  At least that is the Wookiee that most closely resembles the Preview Wookiee.  If you look at the photo on the package, this is most likely the same Wookiee.


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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: What's spinning?
« on: September 2, 2005, 09:03 PM »
Ok Go, Oh No


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Revenge of the Sith / Re: ROTS Recent Purchases
« on: September 2, 2005, 08:58 PM »
Picked up the TIE Fighter today.  Big box!  ;D

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 31, 2005, 12:03 AM »
All that mumbledy-jumbledy about exclusives is fine and good.  I think everyone understands WHY exclusives are at a higher price, no one is debating unit cost or exclusivity.

Everyone knows why exclusives cost more (Dressel said it best) - putting aside all the businessy reasons, it comes down to the fact that the retailers know we'll pay the higher price.  We proved it with the vOTC, with the Target figures, etc, etc, etc.

Sometimes the why should be explained.  I don't think everyone's aware of why some of these things cost what they do.

Are the retailers taking advantage?  Possibly.  Originally, exclusives were designed as a gimmick to get more foot traffic in the stores.  They get people soliciting a store on a more frequent basis hunting for exclusives and that will usually translate into greater overall sales.  But time and experience with all of these exclusives has shown plenty of execs at Hasbro as well as at the retail chains that collectors will pay the price for exclusives.  Like I said before, they're businesses, not charities.  They're out to make a buck, pure and simple.  We should never question that motivation.

And while you're busy blaming Hasbro and the retailers, make sure you blame Lucasfilm too.  After all, Lucasfilm licensing has to approve each product.  And remember that Uncle George also owns a substantial stake in Hasbro as part of the licensing agreement.  He's got just as much of a vested interest in Hasbro being profitable as he does in Lucasfilm being a leader in the film industry.

All of this being said, do I like this situation?  No.  I'm on a budget like a lot of other people.  But I think you have to go into this with your eyes open and try to have an understanding of the situation.  Why things are the way they are is a very important question.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 30, 2005, 04:35 PM »
If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them. Plain and simple. If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

If you don't like it don't buy it.  That sounds all fine and good, but doesn't it run the risk of creating a brand new problem...

For example, what do you do?

Buy the $14 Clone Trooper you hate to show your support for the idea of a Clone Trooper line of figures that might one day give us Utapau, Kashyykk, and Mygeeto Clones.
-or-
Pass on the $14 Clone Trooper you hate and then suck it up when Hasbro says "Oh, we've cancelled the Clone Trooper line we had planned because they didn't sell well".   :-\

Whether it's the Cinema/Screen Scenes or the Wal-Mart Cantina Packs or something else, we hear something like "Oh, we cancelled wave 2 because there was no demand for wave 1" - Well no **** sherlock, you packed rehashes no one wanted in the first wave and put the newer figures in Wave 2 and 3.   ::)

Either way, we lose on crap like this.  Either you buy **** you don't like to "support the line" or you pass it and then suck it up when line X gets cancelled due to "poor support".  

Let's look at the reasons why this particular piece and other exclusive figures are priced the way they are:

-First and foremost we're talking about a retail or online retail promotion.  An exclusive is designed to be a promotional tool to attract buyers to a certain outlet.  It's designed to be both a promotional item and a profitable one.  Hence the higher price.

-Unit Cost.  The cost of producing these figures is going to be higher.  Since they're exclusives they are going to be limited to a smaller production run than a figure in the Basic Figure line.  The profitability of a Basic Figure is based on a relatively large production run that's sold in volume in numerous case assortments.  A larger run of a given Basic Figure is cheaper to produce since manufacturers tend to discount bulk orders.  Smaller, more specialized orders tend to cost more per unit.  That increased cost for Hasbro is then passed on to the consumer.

-Special Features.  This figure has special features whether we care to admit it or not.  It has new paint apps, new packaging and the additional Star Case thrown in.  Those additional features further drive up the cost of this item.

-The Retailer.  Take a look at which retailers are pricing in what manner.  Because when an exclusive like this is proposed both Hasbro and the retailer have a hand in setting the price point.  Toys R Us has actually been somewhat reasonable with the prices of exclusive figures.  They've set a price point of $9.99 per unit (Holo Yoda, Silver figures).  Target and Star Wars Shop have set different prices.  This is where you can really make your voice heard.  If the $9.99 price point for an exclusive figure is acceptable to you, then patronize those retail outlets.  If the $14.99 price is too high for you, then don't partake in those exclusives.  Hasbro will see that pattern emerge and will work accordingly with retailers on future exclusives to price them at a point that the market will bear.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 30, 2005, 03:45 PM »
They have the license from Hasbro until 2018.  They need to space things out.  Do you seriously think there are enough characters to make first run figures over the next 12 years?  No.  That's why there are going to be products like this.  That's why we're going to get a couple of dozen more Luke Skywalker's and Han Solo's.

If things like this are completely inexcusable...don't buy them.  Plain and simple.  If enough people are outraged and make it known by not buying these products then Hasbro will get the point.

There's no excuse for doing this crap before all the film characters have been done. (Well, besides short-term monetary gain.)

When did Hasbro stop being a business and become a charity?  We have to deal with reality here.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 30, 2005, 03:27 PM »
Given Hasbro's history with the way they handled the Batman line, how are people not surprised by this?  Maybe I just have incredibly low (or perhaps realistic) expectations of them given their track record.  Because let's face facts...there are no more movies for them to draw from to fill out the toy line.  This is probably going to be the first of many such products.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 30, 2005, 02:42 PM »
I didn't single out one individual.  Just take a look at every message board in the collecting community.  It's almost mindless at this point.  "We want more Clones!  We want more Clones!"  Keep on asking that and this is the end result.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Covert Ops Clone Trooper
« on: August 30, 2005, 01:52 PM »
We clammored, we raised hell. "We want Clones!", we said. Now we reap what we sow.

Kevin

Pretty much.  The old saying "Be careful what you wish for, you might get it" seems very fitting at this time.  Collectors opened this can of worms.

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Gentle Giant / Re: Bust Ups!
« on: August 30, 2005, 08:49 AM »
Dang, I need me that yellow clone >:(

Still need that cola Chewbacca too, that thing is giving me fits.


Given the fact that Gentle Giant has shown that piece as much as they have, it's pretty likely that it's gonna come out at some point.  The only thing that we have to bear at mind is that Gentle Giant has been pretty restrained about not releasing too much product at one time.

As for the Clone Wars TPB that comes with the amber Chewie & Yoda, I have an extra.  Drop me a PM.

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Gentle Giant / Re: Bust Ups!
« on: August 29, 2005, 11:13 PM »
That's the first I've heard of the yellow version being released.  I've not noticed it on ebay and find it hard to believe no one has sold them on the secondary market.  Not doubting you Nick, just surprised to see there is another.  That leaves me with three holes.   :-\

It was just a promo, nothing more.  When I went to Toy Tokyo in Manhattan a few months ago I noticed that they had one.  They told me how they got it and also refused to sell it to me.

MOSNAB:  The ROTS series of Bust Ups is due out in October.  That's the word straight from Gentle Giant.

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I've always loved the Action Fleet line.  But where is the love for the Collector's Fleet line?  That Star Destroyer ROCKS!

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Other Toy Lines / Re: McFarlane Sportspicks
« on: August 27, 2005, 09:28 PM »
I saw the pic of the no-helmet Unitas.  Are we getting back into that again?  I'm certainly not going to get into that downward spiral of chasing after the no-helmets.

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Vintage Kenner / Re: Scalpers in the old days?
« on: August 24, 2005, 11:54 PM »
I was able to find every figure at retail back in the day.  It was tougher to find some figures, but you did find them.  I actually remember rifling through the pegs looking for Yoda back in 1980 and I was able to find him.  Damn, I miss Child World!  One of the best toy stores EVER!

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
« on: August 22, 2005, 09:05 AM »
Nick, if they don't continue this line, especially given the (seemingly) universal praise and lauding that Evolutions is getting, it will baffle me more than any other decision they haven't made over the years.  There are so many possibilities with the line that could be explored, and to cut it short after three sets would be a real disappointment.

My concerns are based on what happened with the Unleashed line.  That line seemed to be universally lauded, and yet Hasbro bailed on it.  Why?  It was a cost VS earnings issue.  They're going to make decisions based on that sometimes, and not a line's perceived popularity.

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