Still don't see it

I would agree.  Only going to go up in price.  There were a finite amount of these made and there won't be a re-release.  I'm sure the figure pack ins will be worth a decent amount as well.

I have yet to attempt the weapons locker.  I am wondering if I need to invest in a pair of tweezers to make things easier.

Marvel is a good example.  Both Galactus and the Sentinel were spot on Haslab projects for that line.  The roll out and reveals for both projects were handled well and the bonus unlocks were what the backers wanted.  I only scratched the surface of Marvel as a kid.  I had a few of those figures that came with shields that had the little lenticular cards in them.  I think I had Woverine, Doc Ock, Spiderman, and Magneto.  Today, I have actually bought all the retro line for Marvel because of the Star Wars retro line.  I ordered the original Marvel wave kind of as a lark when it was up on the Hasbro site and I really liked the card art and the nostalgia of a "vintage" style Marvel figure.  I have managed to keep up with the line and have them all displayed loose and kept the cardbacks.  I don't really do toy runs, but I have actually seen these figures on the pegs in Target when I have been shopping.  Most of them I have ordered on line, but have had no problem getting them from the on-line retailers.  The regular Star Wars retro figures I have not seen in stores at all.  Most waves have been difficult to order.  The exclusive figures that came in a game have been the only ones I have found at retail.  I have had no success with any of the multi color figures at Target.  I had to ebay most of the ANH and ESB waves.  I managed to get a few ESB figures from Zaavi's UK store.  Somehow got the Boba Fett from there, but it took a long time after they were released to ship and they cancelled about half my orders due to lack of product.  Really the only wave I was able to secure without too much trouble was the first Mando wave.  I also managed to get the second Mando wave on preorder from Hasbro.  I know the retro line has mixed feelings overall, but it hits me in the vintage sweet spot.  I've even got to the point that I'm exploring custom vintage style figures to add to my shrinking collection.  Honestly purging most of my Hasbro stuff and concentrating on things I like has sort of reinvigorated my collecting.  I'm really concentrating on vintage stuff, but haven't pulled the trigger on too much.  I am enjoying looking through listings.  I will probably never finish off the last 17 figures or Droids or Ewoks due to cost, but you never know.  May start looking at vintage vehicles.  I also always loved the micro collection.  I still have a few pieces from my childhood.  Prices aren't too bad on those sets so I may try to pick up a few and see where it goes.

Overall, I feel everyone's pain with Hasbro.  It is crazy to think that the Star Wars line came back 25 years ago now.  Imagine if Kenner had continued even another five years past 1985.  I'm kind of surprised Hasbro has hung on to the license this long.  Toys are a much different market than when we were kids.  My kids were done with toys like action figures a lot early than I was.  I was still playing with my GI Joe and Star Wars figures into middle school.  I honestly wonder what the true breakdown in sales between kids and collectors is.  Hasbro always seem to state it was much more heavily in favor of purchases for kids, but in all these years I only ever saw collectors buying stuff when I did toy runs.

I've noticed the weapon holding problem with the retro collection stormtroopers.  Both the multicolor and the Imperial Remnant ST's have the same problem that they can barely hold their blaster.

I think the bigger problem is who actually wanted this item?  There are enough Star Wars collectors out there who purchase everything Hasbro.  Is that number about 5,000 people?  Who really knows.  I live in a small state and I haven't collected Hasbro for a while, but I always check the toy section at Target and Walmart if I happen to be there just to see what is out.  The vast majority of the time I see nothing on the shelves or maybe one beat up figure sitting there.  So either people are still buying in droves or distribution is just as poor as it was ten years ago.

First problem with this item is that it is pretty niche.  The 6" scale overall seems pretty popular, but I never got on board due mainly to space, but not wanted to collect yet another figure scale.  Previous large items in this line haven't sold all that well.  This item takes up a lot of space.  The Barge takes up a lot of space, the Razor Crest takes up a lot of space and it is yet to ship, so people are justifiably hesitant on this item.  The bonus tiers are lackluster.  Just look at them compared to what you get with either the GI Joe or Ghostbusters offerings.  I had a bunch of GI Joe toys in my youth, including the Skystriker.  If I collected from all three fandoms and could only afford one of these items, GI Joe would win.  If I could back only two, I would probably lean towards Ghostbusters second.

Overall, this is just a bad choice in my opinion.  They really should have stuck with 3 3/4".  The fanbase has wanted a Death Star playset forever.  They should have maybe done a poll just to see where interest lies.

I'm largely out of collecting Hasbro and have sold off most of my Hasbro stuff.  However, I did back both the Barge and the Razor Crest.  I don't have any of the newer Mando figures, but I did by the retro figures so my Razor Crest will look semi vintage.

As for Haslab, the Proton pack looks really neat, but nothing I would spend my money on.  I think all of us who grew up in the 80's have affection for that movie.  If money and space were no objects, I would probably back it out of nostalgia.  However, I think it will need all the stretch goals filled to be really worth it.  I like the idea of being able to switch between the new movie and the classic movie modes, especially if the new movie is decent.

The Rancor will be a pass for me.  The only 6" figures I picked up were the Greedo, Jawa, and Obi-Wan that looked like the vintage figure counter parts.  I don't have space for a giant Rancor even though I like the creature.  It took me over a year to break out my sail barge after I got it, and I still haven't pulled out the loose figures to populate it.

Skystriker - this is the winner in my opinion.  I had a ton of GI Joe stuff back in the 80's, included the GI Joe base.  I would set up GI Joe and Star Wars together.  By the time I was getting GI Joe stuff, my vintage Death Star was pretty much destroyed, but I still had the elevator.  I had a blue futon type chair that I would unroll and use as a landing strip.  I would set the Death Star elevator up next to it, so the pilot could take the elevator up to the top of the landing pad and board his jet.  This version looks great, very reminiscent of the original.  The extras that come before hitting stretch goals definitely make it worth it. Only thing missing is a ladder to get in the cockpit.  Those Luke pilot figures with ladder may be a good substitute if the ladder is the right length.  Then the stretch goals give you some cool bonus figures.

Quote from: EdSolo on September  9, 2021, 01:24 PM

**** Target.  They cancelled my orders.

Double check, your first order (or 2 total Stormtroopers) should stay intact.

It didn't.  I have like four cancelled orders since after the first two were cancelled, I went back and kept trying.