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Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:37 PM »
Business courses should be mandatory in high school.

Maybe I'm tooting my own horn since it's "my thing" since 9th grade, but god damn how are people this illogical about stuff?

Again, I've said it over in Wuher's when things just go out of control, but I weep for the future.  Truly I do.  When Ebay starts setting the standard by which the actual INDUSTRY determines price (and by which consumers accept said prices), then I think we're all in some deep **** folks.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 11:09 PM »
And, as per usual, Rebelscum's filled with people claiming this is the deal of the century...

One person's logic going so far as "Well the carded one sells for $20 on Ebay...  These are fairly priced!", all the while losing track of how business in America works.

Original Trilogy Collection / Re: Naboo Wave
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:36 PM »
At $7 a pop, get ready for an Episode One like glut, i do declare. :)

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:35 PM »
$25 on a case, I think.  Believe that's what I was told...

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL 2004
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:28 PM »
hehe  :)

Steelers all the way...  The most solid team in the NFL IMO, even if our QB's a youngin'.  Not even saying that as a general Steeler's fan either.  I truly believe this is the best team since the glory days, and with tons of depth...

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:23 PM »
OK, nix me from being on the needy list...

Local guys are going in on a case so I'm going with them on this.  Will extra save on shipping too anyway.

I hope we all can get a set as reasonably as possible.   ::)

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 09:19 PM »
Don't prices go DOWN when you buy more of something at one time?

Theoretically, yes, but when it comes to Hasbro they seem to become scrooge with stuff and increase prices as more of it is sold. :)  They're the anti-thesis of Cost-Co.

Is ANYONE going in on a case that needs someone else in on it?

I really would like a set...  1 of each 4-pack, but I'm wanting cheapest price possible.  If nobody's got room left on going in on a case I need to look elsewhere...  Likely locally.

This really just pisses me off, as sad as it is to say.  I want these, but that price is downright offensive given what these should be selling to us for.

I'm already seeing tons of folk claim that it's the articulation that is making them cost so much...   ::)  How soon people forget that this figure's already been made, and that the mold toolings cost (highest single cost on any figure) have already been met, and now will only depreciate with EVERY unit sold of this product.  For every single one of those Clones, the mold cost is depreciating rapidly and will be no more than a packaging cost or materials cost by the time this cluster **** is all said and done I would wager.

****, these things should sell for LESS than $5 considering they're practically pure profit.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:43 PM »
Would it literally or would it because Hasbro would say "But you get a poster!?" :)

Honestly, a poster adds little value or cost to it...  Really, they have not a solid excuse in their pockets as to the costs of these.  I'm seeing some label the term "exclusive" as a reason for increased cost, but when all the mold toolings are done and the packaging is relatively simplistic (which it is) then there's not even much cost there beyond basic production.

With the molds being tooled, these should be $5 a piece, or less.

They should chime in at the 4-pack TRU price, where you at least get something NEW in each set generally.

This is one of those days you don't know what to do with yourself as a collector...  You just got something you asked for, but not even VAGUELY in the ballpark of the price you asked for it at.  There's another cruel irony to all this.  The company that reads the boards, totally glossed over ALL the SA Clonetrooper discussions that have gone on around the net in the last year +, as they all said that "Wow if we got these in a 4-pack like the Stormtroopers and stuff, that'd be great".

So Hasbro decides to A) change the packaging...  OK, cool, I don't mind that in the least since it looks nice.  And then B) increase the price by what, 50% from what those other 4-packs ran?

And they were all but exclusive in name too as I recall.  The Stormie set WAS exclusive to the fan club for quite some time...  The others were "dumped" when the Fan club folded then...  

This is bull ****, plain and simple.  I'm as close to being genuinely pissed off at collecting as I have been in a long time.  This hobby shouldn't frustrate us to this extent, ever.  

Total crap my friends...  Total crap.

Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Clone Trooper 4 Packs!
« on: January 4, 2005, 07:23 PM »
What more can I add?

Hasbro could've sold these damn things at retail and probably pushed more product, and made more $ for themselves.  At this stage of the game, I doubt people go ape **** and build mass armies with this...  I think we'll see it fail on some level, and Hasbro will take punishment out on us saying "well it didn't do well".

Yet another point in time the company won't pull its head out of its ass long enough to see the big picture, and that they could've easily moved that product at basic retail without having to screw its customers.

If someone needs another person to go in on a case, I'd really like to do that since it's the cheapest option to get a set.  Let me know, please.  I'm not sure after reading the thread exactly which of you guys need people to go in on one with you or not.

Just hit me up though!

This is a huge kick to the nuts...  It's a great concept, and it's something they needed to do for ages, but they executed like they do with so many other things by totally screwing us over in the process and then they'll blame the idea and the product instead of their own execution of it.  Great...  God dammit you know nobody running the show there is a fan at this point.

The Wookiee Arcade / Re: Wow, NEW Star Wars FPS: Republic Commando
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:57 AM »
Check the main page here at Jedi Defender guys...

New Republic Commando movies at Yahoo Games.  Links on the main page.

REALLY great stuff in the videos.  I mean, they took squad-based FPS's and improved them.  That's a good game, so let's hope this takes off.  I could stand "Alliance Commando" and "Imperial COmmando" as well as a nice Merc/Pirate version too...  These look great.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Rebel scum mods are gone!
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:44 AM »
RS's currently getting a butt pounding by a spammer...  Lots of great free items though!!!  :)

JD Sports Forum! / Re: NFL 2004
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:43 AM »
You'd be dead before stepping into the terminal if you came to this city right now Matt.  :)

If you're gonna visit, now you have to notify me so I can get you escorted in safely.

Episode 1 / Re: Nostaliga?
« on: January 4, 2005, 08:38 AM »
Indeed...  Till Brad changes it back.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Lord of the Rings
« on: January 3, 2005, 10:33 PM »
On the $3 slipcase, there's one catch.  Gotta have a credit card (no debits it says) which sucks for those without.  And one per household...  I had a hell of a time getting one for my brother.  Darn site gave me fits.

Original Trilogy Collection / Re: Did OTC Do Well?
« on: January 3, 2005, 10:28 PM »
Something to consider, and I was touching on this in my original post...

What if sales weren't "high" because production wasn't high?  Adam Pawlus's Q&A column hinted that much of OTC was not highly produced.

Like I said, we view this as great sales...  Things moved off the shelves quickly, product didn't really sit stagnant (some did and still does).  But what if production didn't match nearly what a normal run of figures/sales does for Hasbro?  Sales aren't so great then...

I tend to agree Scott, that we're seeing a bad precedent beginning with OTC.  At the same time though, tooling new figures can mean higher sales in total units sold...  What it'll depend on now is if their department for determing cost and cutting from certain areas/activities will find out if re-releasing short runs of figures is more financially sound than making higher production runs of new product.

What I think we'll wind up seeing is more of a mix in non-movie years, somewhat similar to OTC.  Idealy it would be MORE new product than repackaged though, for us. :)

Like I was saying in my first post though, yes things moved, but did Hasbro really make a TON of money with it?  If they didn't sell nearly as much as they would've if it was all new product, there's two possible answers...  That the lower overall sales outweighed the lower costs and they made $, or that new product maybe would've cost more but they would've sold more units and made more $ in the long run.  That, I don't think we'll ever know, but one thing is for sure...

If Hasbro gloats up SW in a press release, they did well...  If they don't, then you can bet OTC didn't do as well as people are maybe thinking by looking at the pegs of their local store.  This isn't a black & white issue though, there's a lot they've gotta look at with this. 

And with the DVD release and all that being a big media blitz, I just really wonder if OTC really didn't do ALL that well beyond it NOT clogging pegs.  I'm not ready to say OTC was "a hit" though myself.  I'm leaning right now towards Hasbro, at most, doing a mix of re-releases now more steadily with new product, especially in non-movie years.

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