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The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 1, 2013, 01:55 PM »
I know there's speculation it's all Disney, but I'm pretty certain it's not, and they've had zip to do with this.

Yeah, Hasbro had zilch to do with this decision...the 6" line is something they have wanted for a long time.  Oh wait...

From November 3rd, 2006: With Hasbro now producing 6" super articulated Marvel figures, could we eventually see a special line with 6" super articulated Star Wars figures?

Hasbro: We have no plans for this type of figure line. As the heart and soul of the Star Wars collecting world, we are focused on making sure our 3-3/4" line is vibrant, fresh, and exciting first and foremost, along with providing continued newness for our other play patterns (Star Wars Transformers, Unleashed 2", and Galactic Heroes).
From December 7th, 2007: There seems to be a decent amount of interest from collectors for 6" Marvel Legends style Star Wars figures. What are the chances we might see a line like that in the future?
Hasbro: We will not be producing a line like this for Star Wars. When we have tried other collector-targeted scales (like 7" Unleashed) we found that fan interest, when compared to the 3-3/4" system, is just not as strong. In addition, for kids, the 3-3/4" scale is also the best one for a wide-range of figures and vehicles that play together, which is critical to the Star Wars fantasy. Rather than spread too thin against collectors, we will be focusing our efforts against making sure the 3-3/4" is broad, as we have been for the past couple of years. We should note that the other sublines - Galactic Heroes, Star Wars Transformers, and Unelashed 2", have a very strong following among kids and we will continue these going forward as well.

So you're right, Disney had absolutely nothing to do with this decision to launch a 6" line and Hasbro was completely blindsided by the 4 billion dollar Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm, which happened overnight.  Makes perfect sense.   


The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: February 1, 2013, 01:47 PM »
Finalized 6 weeks ago, in the works for 18 months.


Sorry to burst your bubble there guys, but you don't iron out a $4 billion deal over 6 weeks.  How can anyone honestly believe Hasbro had absolutely no idea this was coming?!  A big part of what makes this such a lucrative deal for Disney are the licensing rights.  A 6" line would certainly yield much higher profits for Disney & Hasbro, so I'm sure it was mentioned as something that was desirable during the course of working out the deal, as was the idea of creating a sequel trilogy.     

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: A 6" Exclusive for SDCC 2013?
« on: January 31, 2013, 05:07 PM »
I'm hoping it's a 2-pack: BBQ Beru & Owen!  Yes, finally!  Woo hoo! 

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 30, 2013, 03:34 PM »
I think the reasoning is that Hasbro seems to want to shift collector focus to this larger scale line despite most collectors having sunk thousands of dollars into the 3.75" line and having no space nor desire for a new scale.

I think that with this move into the 6" figure line Hasbro might be trying to tap into a broader adult toy collector market, and not necessarily just Star Wars fans. 

Is it that these types of figures are not profitable or just not as profitable as Hasbro desires?

Let's keep in mind the one BIG variable in all of this: Disney.  Maybe it's a little premature, but I hold Disney, not Hasbro, responsible for all of these changes (ie 6" line, postponement of the 3D prequels, cancellation of Droid Factory).  Since Disney entered the picture, we have seen a lot of change.  Coincidence?   

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 30, 2013, 01:50 AM »
I think the decision to go with a 6" line for Star Wars is a bold move, one that seems directly influenced by Disney.  I can't wait to see what else they have in store for us.  Hurry up Toy Fair and get here already...   

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 29, 2013, 08:47 PM »
At $20 a pop, I'm still on board, but will be ultra-picky about my purchases.  That said, R2 is a no brainer for me, and I'm sure they'll make 3PO in a later wave.  I'd be really interested in Bespin Luke, Jedi Luke, Boba Fett, Vader, Yoda, and any ESB bounty hunter.

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 11:52 PM »
A retail price point of no higher than $15 would be ideal for me. 

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 08:41 PM »
I think it is valid...  I've devoted my shelving space to 3.75" figures.  Not 3.75" and now a set of 6" ones.

I'd probably buy Bossk...  Not sure on RFT or Tarkin, but I'd buy Bossk for my Bossk focus and call it a day on any 6" figure "collection", per se.

And see, that's the beauty of it.  Everyone will have a choice to pick & choose what they want from the 6" line.  I'm sure Hasbro won't force anyone to buy the entire line.  So if a collector has space issues, they can choose to only buy a few.  Or none.  Unless a collector lives in a cardboard box where space is ultra-limited, I'm sure collectors can manage to find enough room for at least a few 6" figs.     

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:53 PM »
I think the comments around "starting over" are based on building another lineup of duplicate characters from scratch.

Building a lineup of duplicate characters?  Interesting....

Given that collectors have like a dozen figures of Vader on their shelves, alongside a dozen figures of R2 and Chewie, etc., I hardly think purchasing duplicate characters is a valid concern.

Even if they stick to core characters, you're essentially starting over with Luke, Han, Leia, Darth, etc.  Most of us just don't have the space to go that route en masse without displacing some of your existing collection.

If they were announcing a 60" line of figures, I could understand.  But a small 6" collection of core characters?  Collectors find room for their grand clone armies and such, and yet, those same collectors are going to be concerned about making room for a single shelf of 6" figures?  Another invalid concern.       

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 07:02 PM »
I hear ya Greg.  Even if the 6" line has some great offerings, personally, I plan to set up a small, modest collection, mainly comprised of main characters from the OT (ie Luke, Vader, Fett, Han, Chewie, Leia, R2, 3PO), due to space constraints.  I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens...

Indeed, it's challenging to simultaneously collect from multiple toy lines.  It makes it harder to keep focus, not to mention the additional time and money spent acquiring items.  However, many collectors are able to do it successfully, whether collecting SW figures and Lego items, SW figures and Marvel Universe figures, SW figures and Sideshow, and so on. 

With regards to my collecting habits, I've narrowed my focus to mostly OT figures/ships, so it wouldn't be hard for me to juggle a potential 6" line on the side.  If the 3.75" line is ditched (which I really feel is highly unlikely since it's been going strong for so long, not to mention it's what Star Wars collectibles are identified with), it wouldn't be a big deal to me.  I'm happy with what's been offered throughout the years.  Sure, I'd love a few more cantina aliens & Jabba's Palace goons, but I'm content with my collection.           

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 28, 2013, 04:51 PM »
Wow, the initial reaction towards a prospective 6" line is pretty negative (at Rebelscum, here, etc.).  What baffles me are the comments from collectors saying they don't want to "start over."  Who says you have to?  Why can't you continue to collect 3.75" figures AND (gasp) 6"?!  Nobody had to "start over" when they released Unleashed figures, did they?  You pick up what you like, it's that simple.   

Highly detailed, super articulated 6" figures of Star Wars characters?  Count me in, especially with regards to OT characters.  Start the line off on the right foot and begin by offering Boba Fett and Darth Vader, and you got a deal.  My only worry is what the retail price and availability will be.     

Yeah, the lack of waist articulation is somewhat of a bummer, but it displays nicely in a statue-esque kinda way. 

Yeah the generic clone head one didn't hold up great.  That figure, in general, has a lot of flaws.  The helmet sits poorly and isn't the better sculpt out there.  The limbs, particularly the legs, weren't always even on that figure, now some discoloration...  Not a favorite of mine.

I have the same criticisms of the TAC Stormtrooper.  If I'm correct, I think I have 5 TAC Stormtroopers in my collection, and haven't had the desire to acquire any more than that.

Of the favorites you mentioned, the figure I've used for army building lately has been the VC "clean" Sandtrooper.  All you do is pop off the shoulder pauldron and put aside the backpack thingy, and presto.  I have like 10 of them and they display just fine. 

I have a few of the TLC Spacetroopers, and would love to have a few more.  I really love the Tantive IV pack Stormtrooper and have like 4 of them.  Would love to add another 10.  The sculpt is based on the VOTC version, no? 

No, none of my VOTC Stormtroopers are discolored (knock on wood).  I guess I've been lucky.  On the other hand, I've noticed a couple of my TAC Stormtroopers have started to have some discoloration in the torso area. 

Ressurrection time!

I scored 3 recently as part of a lot I purchased, bringing my total to 6.  This is definitely my favorite Stormtrooper ever made, definitive, IMO.

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