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Okay, I'm confused now.  Who missed the point more, me or Holographic Elvis?

I still think that knowing the ending of a movie (or a book, for that matter) only ruins the experience of the movie (or book, as the case may be) if the only redeeming quality of the movie (or book, natch) is that it has some sort of "surprise."

And if that's the case, then it's a gimmick and I would hate it anyway.

If, on the other hand, the movie (or book) is a quality experience through and through, with maybe some surprises along the way, then the quality of the storytelling makes the media compelling regardless of the shock value.

But I kind of already said all that, didn't I?

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: South Park Appreciation Thread
« on: December 2, 2004, 09:47 AM »
I really like South Park, although my wife has banned it so I rarely get to watch it anymore.

She seems to think that the animated style coupled with the *ahem* adult language and themes might have a bad influence on our five year old.


But I love it, and count SP: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut as one of the finest films ever.  It's the "Candide" of the twenty-first century.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Mister Jeopardy
« on: December 2, 2004, 09:45 AM »
Dunno, but I read an atricle that noted his intention to pay one tenth of it as tithing.

Is that one tenth gross, or net Ken?

Hey DP, at least I didn't have to click on the link  ;)

I recommend that he pay gross; that way he doesn't have to pay again when he gets his tax return.

Original Trilogy Collection / Re: Vehicle discussion/speculation!
« on: December 2, 2004, 09:33 AM »
I went to the Hasbro customer service site and filled out a submission for indicating that I hadn't gotten the missile, either, and that was about a month ago.

I've never gotten any response from them whatsoever.

Are those that are getting their missiles people who were contacted by Hasbro after logging a complaint?  I'd like to think that Hasbro's silence will result in me getting a missile, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

What's the real run-down on this situation?

I don't think so; on the contrary, I think that storytelling has been sacrificed for the sake of "surprises."

I've read the Lord of the Rings books two times each, each of the Harry Potter books at least twice (some three or four times), and seen the Star Wars Original Trilogy nearly a hundred times.

Yeah, I know what's going to happen each time I encounter or revisit the stories, but that doesn't diminish the quality of the storytelling in the slightest.

If a storyteller--regardless of whether he or she chooses film, literature, or some other medium--is good at the craft of weaving compelling narrative with something important to say, then "surprises" are simply a part of the story. 

Something like "The Sixth Sense," on the other hand, comes off as just gimmicky.  Sure some people were "shocked" at first (how so many people couldn't have seen that ending coming from miles and miles away is beyond me, but I digress...), and had a good time watching it the second time to spot the "Oh!" moments ("Oh!  Look, he's sitting at dinner with her but she never really converses with him!  Oh!"), but who in the hell would want to sit through that crap a third time?  The gimmick works once for the shock, and again for the "Oh!" moments, but after that...nothing.

With timeless tales such as Lord of the Rings or even the Star Wars saga, however, you can revisit them again and again and again, because it isn't just about the destination; it's about the journey.

Who can honestly say that Empire Strikes Back sucks just because now you know that Vader is Luke's dad?


Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Top 10 Rock Bands of ALL Time
« on: November 14, 2004, 07:22 PM »
Cookie cutter?   :o  We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Oh, and U2 isn't from Great Britain.  They're from Ireland.

Crap.  Big faux pas.  Sorry....

And don't take me too seriously on the U2 stuff, man.  I do think they're really, really talented, just not my bag o' doughnuts.  But they are a good band.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Greatest Album of All Time?
« on: November 13, 2004, 04:32 PM »

Good one, Dressel!

And here I thought you'd lost your sense of humor.

Toy Reviews / Re: Zutton - Mos Eisley Cantina Scene 2
« on: November 13, 2004, 03:49 PM »

Thanks for the pics...I had envisioned something, uh, different, but it's not all that bad, really.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Top 10 Rock Bands of ALL Time
« on: November 13, 2004, 03:29 PM »
Damn right, Vertical Horizon.  And add Third Eye Blind to that list, too.

All the Coldplays (whom I really like, but lets not kid ourselves, they're not that great) and Radioheads in the world will never absolve U2 for their responsibility for spawning so many radio-friendly unit shifters.

For reals, my hostility is partially in jest.

But you really think U2 had that much to do with Radiohead?  I mean sure, they're both from Great Britain and kind of modern rockish, but Radiohead's off the hook while U2 is very much on.

If U2's entire catalog were more like "Zooropa" and less like "Achtung Baby" and "Pop!" I might be persuaded.

This is totally my opinion, and about a billion kajillion people disagree with me, I know, but while U2 were a respectable modern rock band from "Boy" and "War" up through "The Joshua Tree" and "Unforgettable Fire" (you can probably throw "Rattle and Hum" in there, but that's not really a studio effort), everything from "Achtung Baby" on (excepting the anomolous Zooropa) is cookie-cutter.

They're talented cookie-cutters, and by far the best of the cookie-cutters out there, but I'm calling a spade a spade.

I just don't like 'em.  No accounting for tastes, though, I know.....

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Top 10 Rock Bands of ALL Time
« on: November 13, 2004, 02:32 PM »
It kind of seems like we're using The Beatles as a starting point, but I think you really have to go back further to guys like Robert Johnson and Charlie Parker.

I don't listen to any of that stuff, really, but you have to acknowlede that point where jazz and the blues fused with R&B to become Rock and Roll. 

I don't really know where or when that really started, or if one artist in particular can be credited for it, but whereever, whenever, and whomever got it going deserves some credit.

But since I don't know dick about that old stuff, I'll start with The Beatles, too.

1. The Beatles: I don't really listen to these guys either, but both my mom and my wife are huge fans, so I hear them all the damn time.  Their influence can't be denied.

2. The Rolling Stones: These guys I listen to, they kind of took what The Beatles were doing and sexed it up, making rock dirtier.

3. Velvet Underground: I can't believe I omitted these guys from my first version of this list.  Even before Sonic Youth, the Pixies, The Ramones, or the Sex Pistols, Velvet Undgergound were laying the foundations for the artistic and sonic expansion of rock and roll.

4.  Tie: Led Zeppelin: Kind of took what both the Stones and the Beatles were doing, added some J.R.R. Tolkein and some Aleister Crowley, and then turned it all up to eleven.
The Who: Kind of took what both the Stones and the Beatles were doing, and made it artier, more sonic, and amped rock's R&B roots.  My personal favorite of my top four.  I saw somebody saying something about these guys being the grandfathers of punk on VH1.  I think it was doucheface from Green Day.  But Eddie Vedder's kind of said something similar.  I've never figured out that connection, but if Eddie Vedder can make sense of it, then who am I to argue?  So I guess these guys are the grandfathers of punk, too.

5. Tie-The Ramones/Sex Pistols:  More or less killed seventies rock, definitely killed disco, and ignited punk.  Stooges might get an honorable mention in this category, but while they've influenced the cooler punk bands, Ramones and Sex Pistols have a wider reaching influence in today's rock and roll.

7. Sonic Youth/the Pixies: The only rock that matters anymore is "alternative" rock.  It wouldn't exist without these two bands.  I'd like to put both of these bands in front of The Ramones and the Sex Pistols, just because I like Sonic Youth and the Pixies better than I like The Ramones or the Sex Pistols, but in all honesty and fairness, I wonder if we would have had Sonic Youth and the Pixies without The Ramones or the Sex Pistols.

9. Black Sabbath:  The only rock that used to matter was metal, and Sabbath forged it out of what Zeppelin was doing with Beatles/Stones rock and roll.  Now there's this kind of nu-metal **** that all the kids love, which has taken the grungy edge of alternative rock and fused it with the dumbness of glam metal, but all of that can be traced back to Sabbath.  But don't hold that against Sabbath, without whom we wouldn't have acts like Tool.

[Sidenote:  Where the hell is good metal?  And by good, I don't necessarily mean fast stuff like Slayer or whatever.  I don't like poppy metal either, and I hate the rap/rock hybrid nu-metal garbage (which doesn't include Rage Against the Machine, but does include pretty much everything else out there, like **** messiahs Linkin Park).  I guess what I'm saying is this:  Tool is my favorite band in the whole world.  They do stuff that blows me away thematically and sonically.  Where can a Tool fan, who loves Tool but doesn't like A Perfect Circle or Cradle of Filth or any of their clones, find something to hit the spot in between Tool efforts?  And I don't mean hard rock like Local H or At the Drive-In, both of whom I like a lot for what they are...but I want something metallic and blistering loud and rock and scary.

Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.]

10. Nirvana: By closing the door on hair metal and bringing meaningful rock back into the mainstream, these guys not only caused the explosion of "grunge" (although admittedly they didn't "invent" it), Nirvana changed the face of rock and roll forever.  To be fair on this one, though, I'd have to say that Jane's Addiction is to Nirvana what Iggy and the Stooges are to The Ramones and the Sex Pistols.

Pink Floyd doesn't fit in anywhere, but I love them.

I really don't like U2, but I recognize that they're a very good rock band.  But they have inspired absolute ****.  I blame U2 for Matchbox Twenty and Vertical Horizon and all that crap, so even though I will admit that U2 are talented, I hate them.

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Greatest Album of All Time?
« on: November 11, 2004, 07:22 PM »
Linkin Park soooooooooooo eats my balls.

You sir, do not rock. >:(

To each his own.


Oh, man, I do so rock.  At least, I rock as hard as I possibly can, what with Linkin Park eating my balls as hard as they do.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Greatest Album of All Time?
« on: November 11, 2004, 02:02 PM »
Linkin Park soooooooooooo eats my balls.

How can anyone confuse Crazytown with anyone else?  That's...that's like confusing Justin Timberlake with the lead singer from N'SYNC.

Poetic lyrics ("Such a sexy, sexy, pretty little thing;
Fierce nipple pierce; You got me sprung with your tongue ring") over a cribbed and looped Red Hot Chili Peppers instrumental (don't believe me?  download "Pretty Little Ditty" from RHCP's "Mother's Milk" album)?

Gosh damn brilliant.

I'm going with Shifty, too, although a close second would be this one:

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: What's spinning?
« on: October 25, 2004, 06:20 PM »

What a ******* loss, man.

This album is so, so, so good.  I've dug all of his prior stuff (Figure 8...not so much), but this final, and unfortunately, posthumous release is absolutely brilliant.

Perhaps deliberately, perhaps ironically, the album provides a retrospective, with tunes spanning the gamut of his careers with indie-rockers Heatmiser and as a more introspective solo artist.

A fitting capstone for an unnecessarily abrupt career.

R.I.P. Elliott....

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Virex death watch Day 33 (Confirmed Killed)
« on: October 2, 2004, 01:59 PM »
Oh, I get it.  Virex likes Wilco, Wilco puts out an album entitled "A Ghost is Born," Virex dies, and "Ghost of Virex" is born.

Something like that?

Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Hurricane Ivan Sucks
« on: September 25, 2004, 10:03 AM »
And by the way, Hurricane Ivan, from what I could tell, was wearing a blue shirt, grey pants, black boots, and a white helmet...

And guess what?  He sucked.

Best.  Reply.  Ever.

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