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I think there may be more of these than past SDCC exclusives...  Just a hunch.

Considering that this is officially the only one of this line (that has been currently announced) that I plan on getting, I certainly hope that is the case.  Maybe Hasbro can spring for 4 hamsters to put on the wheel to power the website this year so people can actually order one. :P

As I wrote in another thread (probably very off-topic, but I started out rambling about Vintage, so...), Hasbro's handling of this line has pretty much driven me out of collecting any of their properties, with the exception of Transformers, which you can occasionally find SOMETHING from.  Having to go pretty much online only on a limited collecting budget last year was the major straw that broke the camel's back, but their continual seeming self-sabotage on SW recently has just taken any and all fun out of what used to be an enjoyable part of my life.  I was spending more time and energy trying to find pieces and getting very little emotional return on my "hobby", so I just decided that, unless I see it at retail, I'm not interested. 

It's enabled me to find things that truly do bring me enjoyment (namely Lego, but also gave me time to get back into X-Men comics, and I've been catching up on the stories/books I've missed since graduate school lately), and that don't cause me to develop an ulcer because Hasbro didn't ship them, or the only place I can get them is on Ebay for 40 bucks a pop.  I really feel sorry for completists (if they're still out there), because I know better than most what a need to be complete can do to people on an emotional level, especially when you can't be complete. 

The thing that really strikes me as telling about where I'd rather put my energy has to do with this being Return of the Jedi's 30th anniversary.  That is a HUGE deal for a film to still be relevant and loved after that time period, and when asked what they planned to do to celebrate, Hasbro said they were doing nothing special.  Sure, they're rereleasing the TIE Interceptor in a vintage box, but you'd think there would at least be a wave of figures they could release to celebrate.  But no, instead we get yet another prequel wave with a few ANH figures mixed in.

Lego, on the other hand, has (in the last year) released or will release:

-Jabba's Palace with Bib Fortuna, Leia Boussh, Jabba the Hutt, Gammorrean Guard, a B'Omarr Monk, Chewbacca, Salacious Crumb, and Oola
-Desert Skiff with Luke, Boba Fett, Han, and Barada
-A-Wing Fighter with a pilot, Han, and Ackbar
-Rancor Pit with Luke, Gammy, Rancor Keeper, and the Rancor
-Jabba's Sail Barge with Ree Yees and Max Rebo (amongst others)
-UCS B-Wing Fighter
-Two planet sets (Endor and Forest Moon) with minifigures and mini-ships

Even Sideshow is doing that incredible (yet out of my price range) Darth Vader 1/6 scale doll, but Hasbro can't do anything outside of reissue a 4 year old toy in a new box at (what will likely be) a 10 dollar price hike?  I just don't get it.  The only thing that would be more bizarre would be if Hasbro did ANOTHER wave of Episode I figures in the Black Series line.  Then again, we've only seen the first two waves, so maybe they have another Qui-Gon or Daultay Dofine on the drawing board because "kids love random Neimoidians."

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go build a Lego Superman set because, you know, it's fun. :)

I guess we can pretty much all agree that those so-called "greatest hits of Vintage" cases are never going to show up now, at least not through normal retail channels.  Target cleared out vintage back in the fall of 2012 and hasn't gotten anything since then; the three Wal-Marts in my immediate vicinity have not restocked since last fall's "lost line" look (which was the first time they'd restocked since the ROTJ deleted scenes wave in February of last year); and Toys R Us does get an occasional case, but 95% of the time it's yet another case of the Episode I wave, which means nothing else gets restocked ever.  Hasbro really screwed up with Vintage in 2012, and even though I still need Starkiller and Shae Viszla to complete my collection, I've pretty much given up hope of ever actually seeing either of them and/or getting them for a price that doesn't require the relinquishment of one of my organs.

Probably not the best thread to bring it up in, but I've pretty much given up on Hasbro completely across all their lines, with the exception of Transformers.  Star Wars is nonexistent, Marvel Universe is next to impossible to find, Marvel Legends are impossible to find, GI Joe is a disaster, and I now have an armless, headless Iron Monger on my shelf that will likely never be completed thanks to Hasbro's genius idea to split a BAF series up over two waves, pull a typical Hasbro move and overship the first wave, and retailers wind up not ordering enough of the second.  I kind of wish Hasbro would just stop producing SW toys until the new movies because it would save them money, since none of the stuff they develop and (supposedly) release to retail is showing up for people to buy anyway.

Joe Defender / Re: GI Joe Retaliation - The Toys!
« on: February 17, 2013, 08:22 PM »
Saw what is, I'm guessing, considered wave 2 at a local Walmart today, and passed on all of them. The one figure I had definitely planned on getting was Colton (because its Bruce Willis after all), but his eyes were crossed worse than any Chewbacca I've ever seen, so I left him. I wasn't too impressed with any of the others' paint apps either, and Lady Jaye was especially sloppy. For 10 bucks a figure, I expect a lot more.

I did, however, grab the Cobra Invasion Team 3 pack, which is pretty great. Firefly is pretty much a POC-style update of the RAH figure, and the Paratrooper uses the POC Shock Trooper as a base, including most of the gear from that figure plus the parachute and harness from the first Retaliation Cobra Trooper but in black (the harness; the chute is still blue with a red Cobra logo). Storm Shadow looks like the single carded release (which I don't have, so I may be wrong) but he includes more accessories including a RAH style backpack. Very cool set, and highly recommended for fans of the POC stuff.

As I said in the "Big Lots Won't Sell 'Em for a Buck" 12 inch thread, I actually bought the Slave I at Target this past Sunday. Had it not been for my Boba Fett/Mandalorian character focus, I would not have gone near this with a ten foot pole. It might be the absolute worst Hasbro toy I have ever intentionally purchased and is an insult to not only collectors, but also the kids and parents at whom it is focused.

Remember the Cruise Missile Trooper?  IT IS WORSE THAN THAT. At least the CMT, with all its flaws, shortcomings, and horrid concept, was made out of quality plastic and had decent deco/paint, and you felt like you were getting your 14 dollars' worth, even if it was a horrible idea. You could see how a kid might enjoy it on some level, even if we were all rolling our eyes at its very existence. Despite its stupidity, it was obvious that someone at Kenner/Hasbro put an effort into the CMT and, fail though it did, Kenner/Hasbro learned a lesson and moved on.

This Slave I, however, is a collection of failure on a level that can't be accurately conveyed in text or pictures. Yes, it is ridiculously out of scale (it's about the size of the first Lego Boba Fett Slave I) and no thought seems to have gone into it. It weighs next to nothing, the paint is horrible, and the plastic is, quite simply, the same level of quality you'd see on a plastic Easter egg. I've compared it to every Slave I I have in my collection from multiple companies, and NOTHING feels as cheap as this. It's flimsy, it's weak, and it is just a disaster. Any kid who is still playing with Star Wars toys would break this within 2 days through no fault of their own, and the quicker these disappear from retail, the better because this is just sad and insulting. Michael Crawford's level of disgust with the 12" Anakin is hitting the nail on the head here, too, and Hasbro should be ashamed for even going this route. No kid is going to like this and if I were a kid, I'd rather get socks for my birthday than get this monstrosity.

Despite my general Hasbro pessimism, I do tend to be a bit forgiving when it comes to the quality of the toys themselves. This...thing, however, is just horrible and there's no excuse for it. It sucks as a collectible, it sucks as a toy, and I would say they deserve to rot in a landfill except that the ground would spit them out because they're that damn bad.

End overreactive hyperbole. In all seriousness, it's an awful toy on every level and a waste of time and resources.

Hopefully some poor soul takes one for the team and reviews the new Class 2 vehicles. I really want to see how silly they look next to the normal versions without, ya know, shelling out any cash.

I actually bought the Slave I, just because Boba Fett (and Mandalorians, in general, I guess) is my character focus. And yeah, it's pretty sad on just about every level (not the least of which is that I bought it to begin with). I'll post more thoughts in that thread, but wow, is it small and undetailed and just crappy.

The Vintage Collection / Re: Toy R Us Vintage Republic Gunship
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:56 AM »
I'm going to pass on this one, as I still have my 30 buck 2002 Saga version with the 2009 Battle Pack Pods attached. Nice that Hasbro's getting this back out there for newer collectors, but I wonder how much TRU is going to charge for it. I'd bet it'll be at least 100 bucks, since TRU can't price anything reasonably. Given inflation, being the 7th release of this mold, and the figures not being unique, I'd think a fair price would be 60-70.

The Vintage Collection / Re: Toys R Us Vintage Bigg's X-Wing Fighter
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:52 AM »
If the deco pictured on the box actually reflects what the toy looks like, I may end up getting this one. Curious about the price, though, since the last few big X-Wings have been in the 50 buck range and have included figures.

Speaking of the Trench Run X-Wing, what modifications were made to that mold anyway?

The Vintage Collection / Re: Amazon Vintage Slave I w/Carbonite Block
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:48 AM »
Now this is exciting. Been waiting on this one since the AOTC/CW version came out and was worried it would get lost in the shuffle that's been going on lately. One of my favorite vehicles Hasbro's done in recent years, and I look forward to adding it to the collection.

See, Jeff, I'm not completely pessimistic.  ;)


I see your Hasbro pessimism is still firing on all cyliders, DP.  :P

Would you expect anything less?  ;D

In all seriousness, though, the last 2 years have, at least when it comes to Hasbro's action figure line, not been very fun at all for me. I just don't have the time or energy for the hunt anymore, and with prices going nowhere but up and space at a minimum, I think I've reached my relative end. I'll probably still pick up some of the 3.75" Black Series if I can find them, but my days of morning toy runs are over.

It's probably not the best basis for this, but when I think of the future of the 6" line, I can't help but look at Hasbro's distribution of Marvel Legends as an example. To this day, I have only seen about 1/3 of the figures Hasbro has done in that line (which, granted, may be partially due to me not showing up at 8 AM at Target).  Given how horrible it has been to find a SW figure past the TPM wave this past 14 months, I don't see a 6" collector line is going to get better market penetration.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there and I'm sorry for derailing the thread, but I've just been frustrated with everything Hasbro's done lately and it has felt more like a chore for me to collect. I'm not having fun, so it follows that I should just stop putting myself through the irritation, especially when, in the end scheme of things, they are just toys.

Well, this pretty much solidifies me not collecting this line at all. Boba Fett has been my character focus since I was a kid, pretty much, so now Hasbro's starting a line with him as an exclusive that I have zero chance of getting, since I can't go to San Diego and since SDCC exclusives are impossible to get at HTS. Way to go, Hasbro: you lost and frustrated at least one potential collector before you even started.  ::)

Guess my Lego collection is going to be the 100% focus in terms of Star Wars from here on out. At least I can be thankful that Hasbro is saving me a lot of hassle and money in the long run.

My hope is that with Hasbro apparently going with the "budget" approach as it relates to Movie Heroes (5 POA), they'll finally admit that the Vintage/Black Series/whatever line is a collector-focused line and offer a figure assortment that respects that fact. I'm talking super-articulation as the bare minimum with no corners being cut on deco and no sacrifice of film authenticity for stupid pack-ins and gimmicks.

We already know we aren't getting BAD pieces so I'm hoping they realize anything other than a stand (and we all have all we need of those at this point) as a pack-in is a waste. Use whatever budget for those on including lightsaber hilts that attach to belts, or for a frigging leg strap for the holster. Lack of holster aside, the Vintage RFT is a perfect example of great accessories packed in to add value, so more of that where they can do it would be great.

And if they're going for a true collector-focused line, and with the main characters being well-represented in the budget line for kids, don't sacrifice spaces in the Black Series to repack Obi-Wan and Anakin and X-Wing Luke for the millionth time. If you do a main character in the Black Series, make it a version that isn't identical, costume-wise to another figure (like 3 identical Obi-Wans in 3 different assortments). Do a ROTJ-deco Boba Fett using the Evolutions body with mods as necessary, or do a cloth-lower coat Hoth Han with the hood up.

My other main hope is that they not overdo things in terms of the number of figures released. Part of the problem these last few years is there have been too many figures split across too many "waves" and 90% of them didn't show up to retail or, if they did show up, were victims of horrible case packs and only showed up once. They could cut the line to 24 totally new figures for the entire year (4 waves of 6 figures) and release an assortment every 3 months, with the first release being a case of 12 figures (2 of each new figure) and, in the off months, release a revision case with the more popular figures as a fill-in assortment. No short packs, no chase figures (which is my biggest fear with the 6" line), and for God's sake, no Phantom Menace figures for a long time.

Like I said, each wave would have 6 brand new figures which would encompass five of the six films and, as available, realistic versions of CW characters. I won't go into personal wish lists but I think we could (mostly) all agree that realistic versions of animated Jedi who appeared in the films (Mace, Fisto, Koon) with forearm armor isn't going to be interesting. Do stuff like Bo-Katan, Pong Krell, Hondo Ohnaka, Duchess Satine, Savage Opress, or even Rex and Wolffe instead of just blowing a spot on "Saesee Tiin in Leg Armor".

My biggest hope is that, whatever they do, people are able to actually find it. If Hasbro doesn't get their **** together this fall, especially after the complete cluster**** of the last 3 years, a lot of the people who have been sitting on the fence and giving the big H another chance are going to jump ship completely.

The Black Series 6" Figures / Re: 6 Inch Figures?
« on: January 29, 2013, 03:25 PM »
I was discussing this with a friend today and our feeling was that, for 20 bucks a figure, they had better include every conceivable accessory that the character had (removable helmets/switchable heads, multiple weapons, lightsabers AND lightsaber hilts, cloth robes/capes, and so forth) and that, for a character like R2-D2 or Yoda who are, as P-Siddy noted, much smaller than other characters, they should come with an even larger number of accessories.

The real ideal, I think, would be if they did a build-a-figure aspect of this and included the smaller characters in pieces.  Namely, you do a wave 1 with Maul, Luke, Sandtrooper (ugh, why not a regular Stormtrooper?), and someone else, and have each include a piece of R2-D2.  Ditto with wave 2: four figures, with extra parts to build a Yoda.  Wave 3 could be someone like R5-D4 or a Jawa.  That way, you're making each figure as important as the next, and offering something cool as a pack-in along with the higher price.

Just a thought.

The Vintage Collection / Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« on: January 14, 2013, 04:01 PM »
Count me among those who have yet to receive their Jocasta, although to be quite honest, I hadn't really been paying attention lately and had pretty much forgotten about her.  I don't know if that's more due to just a general apathy toward Hasbro stuff recently, or because there hadn't been any movement from BT, but I did order one, so hopefully they'll actually send it to me, sooner or later.   ???

Droid Factory 2013 / Re: 2013 Droid Factory = Dead
« on: January 7, 2013, 07:49 PM »
What I find in the release of this statement is that prices will be going up regardless. I don't think there has been a time where Hasbro has said that they were doing things to keep the retail cost down and have it not go up anyway.

Yeah, the Battle Packs are probably the best example of diminishing value with rising prices that Hasbro has tried over the years, and I sadly see that becoming the rule rather than the exception. 10 bucks a figure is already pushing it way too far, IMO, so the implication that prices will probably go up again (or at least stay at current levels with even further reduced paint apps and articulation) has me hoping for a more extended break than this to be honest.

I can see Hasbro doing an entire line of Movie Heroes repacks from now until Episode VII (with the Droid Factory figures already tooled mixed in and Mara Jade offered as another Jocasta Nu-type exclusive) since I'm assuming they'll have to work quick on those toys. With the lead time necessary on toys, Hasbro would have to have finished concept art and actor names and likenesses in their hands right now and with Disney/LFL not even releasing a director for the film yet, I doubt that.

This might be what finally makes me wind down on my collecting days, at least where Hasbro is concerned. I've gotten all four of the Class I deluxe sets this week and its honestly felt like more of a chore than anything else. On the other hand, and I've said this before, Lego is giving me a great deal more enjoyment than I've had collecting Hasbro's stuff in a long time, plus Lego is doing new Clone Wars stuff (Z-95, Krell) that Hasbro doesn't seem to be interested in approaching. Oh well...just rambling out loud. I guess what I'm getting at is that not only is the break going to allow me to buy things that I enjoy more, it's also going to give me (and others I'm sure) the time and distance to figure out if and when I am going to continue buying Hasbro products period.

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