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Watto's Junk Yard / Re: Official Television Thread
« on: September 5, 2012, 07:36 PM »
I've caught each episode of this new Collection Intervention show as well, and while I've found it very entertaining, I wholeheartedly agree that their view on collecting is highly skewed and pretty offensive.  The cute auction lady pretty much functions solely based on value and age (vintage).  Most modern toys are deemed worthless and should be sold off, and anything vintage that holds little value needs to go too.  Obviously this is not the reason most of us collect, and I'm not even sure I've noticed anyone on any forums yapping about collecting things solely as investments.  Each collector on the show seems to reiterate this, as they've all told the lady they have no idea what their stuff is worth, nor do they particularly care (which seems to confound her).

Regardless, I do greatly enjoying seeing all the different collections.  The Star Wars house in episode 1 was a thing to behold, but withholding the fact that she works for Rancho Obi-Wan was obviously more than a bit deceptive.

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Thanks Pete.  I almost wish I hadn't put the list together, since I thought we were a lot closer to finishing up the whole vintage carded line than we actually were.  Now I'm a little bummed and disappointed with my findings.  At least we're close to finishing up the loose ones though, which is more important in my book.

    ANH
    • Boba Fett (issued on ESB & ROTJ cards)

    Whoops, I forgot the mail-away rocket-Fett:



    I'll give this one an asterisk too, since it's actually a vintage/Kenner figure on the card, and not an updated modern version.  It'll probably qualify for those non-pickier folk though, I suppose.[/list]

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    I just can't get behind the Droid Factory character choices, as they seem to all be resculpts

    Well, to be honest, unless the figures are EU, CW, Cliegg Lars, Tonnika Sisters, Torryn Farr, Sim Aloo, Sgt. Doallyn, or a miniscule handful of other characters, everything from here on out is going to be a resculpt, right?  That's just the way of things at this point, after 17 years of the modern line (wow, that sounds like a long time).  That said, I definitely agree that the first couple waves are pretty boring, even for resculpts.  But I've pretty much accepted that the final 8(?) years of Hasbro's SW figures are going to be 90% or more resculpts.  Even so, I'll probably be buying them all, just to stay complete.  No point stopping now, when I'm (hopefully) more than 2/3rds of the way through the line!

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    Forgive me ... for my lack of interest in doing the research myself

    OK, since you're a bunch of slowpokes, I piqued my own curiousity and did some (a lot) of research and was pretty surprised with my findings on this topic, with how far Hasbro still has to go.  So based on my initial requirement of wanting each figure on their debut card, as well as requiring the same photo as was on the original Kenner card, this is where I think we're at right now as far as what's still missing:

      ANH
      • R2-D2
      • C-3PO (issued 2x on ESB card)
      • Chewbacca (issued on a ROTJ card)
      • Stormtrooper (issued on ESB & ROTJ cards)
      • Death Squad Commander
      • Jawa
      • *Walrusman (issued w/ completely different picture)
      • Hammerhead (rumored)
      • Snaggletooth
      • Power Droid (rumored)
      • Boba Fett (issued on ESB & ROTJ cards)

      ESB
      • AT-AT Driver
      • Bespin Guard(s) - black & white
      • C-3PO w/ Removable Limbs
      • FX-7
      • Imperial Commander
      • TIE Fighter Pilot (issued on ROTJ card)
      • Lobot (rumored)
      • R2-D2 w/ Sensorscope (issued on ROTJ card)
      • Hoth Rebel Commander
      • *Hoth Rebel Soldier (issued w/ completely different picture)
      • 2-1B
      • Ugnaught

      ROTJ
      • AT-ST Driver
      • Bib Fortuna
      • Chief Chirpa
      • 8D8
      • Emperor
      • *Emperor's Royal Guard (issued w/ completely different picture)
      • General Madine
      • Klaatu (Skiff Guard)
      • Lando (Skiff Guard)
      • Paploo
      • Leia Boushh
      • Rancor Keeper
      • Ree-Yees
      • Squid Head
      • Teebo

      POTF
      • All of them except Lando General (issued on a ROTJ card)

      So there's more than a handful of "does that qualify?" figures in there, including the three with totally different pix (very annoying), and the six that were issued under subsequent movie titles (just dumb).  There were also TWO different Bespin Luke and Leia cardbacks of which we've only gotten one each.  Then there's the question of whether General Lando qualifies on a ROTJ card, or does Hasbro need to do a POTF cardback instead (which will obviously be an issue with all the rest of the POTF figures).  Zuckuss and 4-LOM are mildly iffy with the name change and silver bordering of the C5 exclusive set.  Etc.  Etc.

      Agree?  Disagree?  Care?  I just thought it'd be interesting to look into this since the remaining loose vintage figures discussion and corresponding debates are really dwindling down at this point.  Are there any loose collectors that have been collecting carded just for these vintage figures, or is this solely a discussion for the handful of remaining carded collectors?  Either way, it's obvious there's no way Hasbro is getting through the rest of this lengthy list solely during the next vintage run, that's for sure.  Oh well, as long as they tackle the remaining "loose" figures, I guess that's what's most important.

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      Collect All 92! / Re: Vintage Figures Which Have Not Been Updated
      « on: August 27, 2012, 07:58 PM »
      So on FB yesterday GH reports that Sim Aloo, Blue Gonk and Mustachioed Guard are on the very short list for the next time Vintage comes back

      That was good to see confirmed, however expected.  Color/facial hair variants aside, Sim Aloo was really the only vintage figure left on my list here that was an absolute must have.  It's sounded for years like Hasbro's been interested in polishing off this entire list as well, so I'm sure we'll eventually see the rest of the minor variances get made too.  I'd love to see Hasbro just do a "Vintage-deco" wave similar to what Curto teased for April Fool's a few years back:



      Obviously you'd need to add Ponda, Greedo and Momaw into the mix there as well to really round out the set, though they'd obviously be far more ideal in one of those Target vintage 3-packs.


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      One thing I found interesting in the recent EU poll is how much the SOTE sub-line is still on people's minds.  I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's always been annoyed with the glaring holes left behind from Hasbro's ommissions of Guri, Leebo, Jix, Luke, Coruscant Lando, etc.  I'm guessing since SOTE was more OT based, and such a cross-licensed and massively promoted multi-media event, that particular story line has had a more enduring hold on most collectors, as opposed to the rest of the SW novels and EU over the years (aside from Clone Wars, of course).

      I really hope that with Hasbro's newly extended license, and the diminishing movie character selections/re-do's left, that Hasbro will find time to get around to these.  A full wave of them would be ideal, but that's obviously not going to happen since there'd be a pretty limited interest in these relatively unknown characters.  Maybe if that online exclusive wave sells well enough over the next few months, they could do a similar full (online) case of EU figures that may not appeal to the masses/kids at retail as much.  Throw Jaxxon into the mix, and I'll be one happy man!

      So I trust Jeff passed along all the TOC results to Hasbro last week at C6.  Did they confirm they'd make them all for JD's fine patrons?

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      Forgive me if I missed a thread/post on this somewhere (and for my lack of interest in doing the research myself), but does anyone have a list of the remaining carded updates still needed in the TVC collection to complete the entire vintage "92" figure run?  I'm not talking every vintage carded variant, just the debut cards for each respective figure.  I've completely lost track, and am interested in how close Hasbro is to finishing them all up, and whether it's plausible to do so during TVCs next run in a year or two.

      Thanks!

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      This Ultimate Action Figure Collection book looks to be shaping up pretty nice based on all the previews shown recently.  I'd have actually preferred a chronological look at all the figures, but considering we're up in the 2,500+ range now, that's obviously not a realistic idea.  The grouping of like figures is actually going to be pretty cool both for reference and comparison's sake, though I'm still not sure if that's how the whole book lays out.  Anyone know?  $40 is a surprisingly reasonable price on this thing too!



      Is it just me, or do Curto and Paul look like they could easily be brothers, if not almost twins:


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      The Vintage Collection '10-'13 / Re: Celebration VI
      « on: August 27, 2012, 06:14 PM »
      Maybe they'll start making "Detours" style figures ;).

      Please don't give Hasbro any ideas!  I'm happy with a scaled back line, to be honest, as I'd much rather refocus my collecting dollars on Blu-rays, travel, home improvement, and more "normal" real-world types of things.  The 2020 license extension is scary enough, but if CW is gone and the live-action series isn't happening (which I doubt is true), then at least Hasbro will be forced to stay focused on movie (and EU) figures bottled into just one or two figure lines at retail.  I think that'd help the overall health of the line: One kids' line full of underarticulated repacks, and one collectors' line full of all the good stuff.

      As for the rest of the C6 showings and news, I'm excited to finally get that ESB big Slave-1 version out of the way, and just as happy to hear they're finally going to eventually knock out the MUCH needed larger version of the desert skiff.  If Hasbro's smart, they'll co-ordinate that with a (hopeful) release of Jabba's Sail Barge.  Speaking of which, has anyone posted a link to the finished Tatooine diorama from C6?  I haven't seen anything pop up around the collecting sites yet, and was anxious to see how it all turned out.

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      Here's what we know so far:
      • Jango Fett (Pilot)
      • Sandtrooper
      • Battle Droid (red)
      • Anakin Skywalker (ROTS)
      • Yoda
      • Darth Maul
      • Obi-Wan Kenobi (AOTC)
      • R2-D2
      • Darth Vader
      As for these three, I'm absolutely speechless:



      I know Hasbro's officially gone on the record umpteen times at C6 saying the MH line is now a kid's line, but c'mon, even those decade old sculpts are insulting to the children!  I guess this is a good reminder of where the old figures go when the Hasbro reps (used to) clear the pegs at B&M stores.  Epic fail.  Wow.

      Here's thumbs of the rest of the lineup:



      No way in hell that Sandtrooper's going to stand up if he's not leaning on his vacuum as a crutch.  I guess it's a smart move to get that Pilot Jango out there with the upcoming Slave-1 (mini) re-release, so kudos to Hasbro for finally putting 1 + 1 together.  And now that I think of it, I guess that's the FX R2 there, which probably makes more sense for the kids, as opposed to any other R2s with an articulated dome.

      So is there anything new in that mix, other than the light-up saber Anakin and the Sandtrooper's vacuum accessory (or is it a blower)?  I'll be picking up those two, at least, but hopefully that's it.


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      I can't remember where I saw the rumor this past week, but a blurb came out during C6 that Hasbro had gotten their license extended a couple more years 'til 2020.  Can anyone else confirm or deny this?  I was really kind of hoping 2018 was going to be it.  If that's no longer the case, I'm going to have some serious explaining to do with my wife!

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      My guess, and this is just an assumption on my part, is it took them this long to get it to retail and it wasn't tied to them holding it back...  Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if they could've had this on shelves in Jan/Feb, they would've.

      Yeah, I'd certainly agree with that.  I didn't word my post very well there.  Much like with the Naboo Starfighter and Tank that are now SOL, I know Hasbro would've preferred to get them into the TPM line originally.  They just failed in that attempt, miserably.  So I was meaning to bash their overall operational effectiveness more than their planning really.  Had they gotten that MTT into the line back when they should've, they may have sold a few more Battle Droids, Droidekas and Gungans.  Had they gotten that Naboo Starfighter in there when they should've, maybe that stupid Ric Olie and Naboo Pilot wouldn't have clogged the pegs quite as badly for the next 7-8 months.  Now they're going to hurt the sales of the MTT's respective mini-rig vehicle by not having that at retail simultaneously to the MTT.  Hasbro is just constantly hurting themselves on both ends with their sloppy organizing and managing of the line.  I'm sure there's outside factors that play into these delays far more than we can imagine, but still, Hasbro has lost the benefit of the doubt when it comes to problems with the line due to their poor decisions.  I blame them - not striking Chinese workers, Lucasfilm, or whoever else they'd like to shift the blame to.

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      Star Wars Universe / Re: 'Star Wars' in 3-D?
      « on: August 27, 2012, 05:33 AM »
      While I still don't care much for the PT, I think it's probably smart to push Ep. 2 & 3 closer together like that, after that embarrassing TPM flop earlier this year.  As was mentioned, I think it'll help give the marketing and merchandise a nice boost heading into the holidays too.  I think AOTC and ROTS will probably lend themselves to 3D conversion/viewing quite a bit better than TPM did as well, not to mention they obviously lack Jar Jar and are therefore far less despised.  So I think they'll do a little better than TPM did in 3D, and ROTS can build off AOTC's momentum a bit.

      I'm far more excited to see what's in store the following year for the OT though.  I think if they're really smart, they'll release them all within a few months of eachother to really get a nice Star Wars buzz going, across both box office and merchandise.  I rather liked the original idea of spreading them out annually so Hasbro could really market the shizz out of each movie and fill in some nice gaps with lesser known characters, or big ships, etc. behind the push of each movie's box office, but we saw how terrible that turned out for TPM, so I don't see that as a very viable option anymore, unfortunately.

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      It's still beyond my comprehension that Hasbro didn't get this beast out during the (failed) TPM 3D push.  Holding this non-iconic vehicle back so there's no decent marketing push to help boost it's sales along, while it's saddled with such a hefty price tag is a recipe for disaster - even moreso if it doesn't make it to all the regular B&M stores.  Further, Hasbro trying to coerce collectors into buying this by suggesting it's ultimate sales numbers will likely dictate the potential fate of a Jabba's Sail Barge being made in the future just sucks.  That's hardly an apples to apples comparison, if that's really what Hasbro will be basing it's decision on.  The Barge is a far more iconic vehicle, plus it's from the OT and is the basis for a major plot point's setting (with far more "play-value" built in).  The BMF's sales from a couple years back would be a far more valid comparison (or even the AT-AT's).  Considering these two are coming back to retail again next year, along with Boba's Slave-1, I think Hasbro must know that iconic OT vehicles are a far surer sale than what they're going to be seeing with this MTT.

      With that in mind, I'm not too worried about nabbing this vehicle just yet, and will probably wait to get one until they drop into double digits, at least.  Hopefully Pete's concern isn't validated, and I don't get burned for my patience.  I definitely agree that the interactivity with the future mini-rig vehicle is an added plus for this set, but again, foresight and better planning would've really helped, as releasing the mini-rig the year AFTER the MTT's release (I'm assuming) is just flat out stupid beyond words.  Unless, of course, these MTTs are still shelf-warming next year, which is certainly a possibility.

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