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30th Anniversary Collection / Re: 2008 Rumors and Speculation
« on: January 5, 2008, 02:51 PM »
I find this hard to believe when there's a Clone Wars line coming out but,

Agreed.

Unless they are looking to cover all of the designs from the Cartoon Network series before delving into the designs of the new cartoon.

Can anyone think of any other Clone Wars cartoon designs that you would want to see done once a wave like this came out? I can't think of any right now.


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There are two things at work here when considering any one item being put on the shelves at WalMart, Target and TRU: 1) the time it takes for design, development, manufacturing, packaging, etc... and 2) convincing the chains to make space for a $10 (I'm just guessing on what these cost, if someone wants to correct me please do) assortment of items in a box on a shelf, as opposed to a hang-peg.

If Hasbro were to come to you and ask -- Would you prefer that we make either:

(a) an urban vinyl Star Wars line with the first assortment consisting of Darth Vader, Boba Fett, a Stormtrooper, Han Solo & Chewbacca?

or

(b) deluxe figures that are re-issues of premium versions of Star Wars characters but each character comes with a 4" wide x 4" deep x 8" high plastic diorama display environments - where in some waves the dioramas will click together and in other waves the dioramas will be stand alone? The first assortment would feature Luke, Han, Leia & Chewie in Death Star Trash Compactor dioramas and a fifth diorama would feature C-3PO & R2-D2 next to a Death Star computer terminal in the hangar bay. (if you don't like this example, insert your own concept here, perhaps the Cantina or Outlander Night Club or Anakin's hovel or Ewok Village or Echo Base, etc...)

I would like to think that many of us here would prefer (b) regardless of how we feel about the Mighty Muggs concept.

I mean they tried rip-cord motorcycles, they tried larger figures w/action features (Force Battlers), they tried their own take on the HeroClix market (Attacktix), they tried metal figures and now they're trying to move into the Urban Vinyl market. With the exception of the last item, all have failed, but that's only because the Mighty Muggs haven't been out that long. I predict in a year, that Mighty Muggs will be lumped in with all of these other sub-lines as failures.

One more thing - I think these are MUCH WORSE than the choppers. If the Choppers had been scaled for the 3.75" line and were part of that "system" then more people would have bought into them. So while they did STINK, what hurt the choppers more than their own lameness was the fact that they weren't in the 3.75" scale. Look at the Spiderman Web Racers - they are motorcycles with figures that can be removed from the bike and the figures are smaller than regular Star Wars figures. If Hasbro had really wanted to make them in the 3.75" scale they could have. Change the scale on the choppers and at least you bring the 3.75" completists into the fold. The 3.75" scale is what helped the Titanium Figure Line stick around for as long as it did, change the scale on the metal figures and they don't go beyond the first wave.

So all I would prefer is that Hasbro focus on their bread-and-butter - the 3.75" line of figures.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Clone Wars or The Force Unleashed?
« on: January 4, 2008, 06:02 PM »
I agree with Nick - I'm looking forward to them both equally.

TFU will be fulfilling my desire for new SW content soon and the Clone Wars cartoon and toy line will be doing that in the last quarter of the year.

I did make a point in the TFU thread that having the game pushed back into 2008 has probably forced LucasFilm/LucasArts to down-play the game slightly just so it doesn't conflict with the promotions surrounding The Clone Wars cartoon. If the game had come out in 2007 and TFU figures had been part of the TAC then they would have had plenty opportunity to promote all aspects to this project similar to what was done for Shadows of the Empire.

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The Legacy Collection / Re: New Evolution Sets
« on: January 4, 2008, 05:06 PM »
Is it just me or does it look like the packaged version of the NJO Luke is MUCH IMPROVED over the loose figure shot.

Looks like the hair is more combed than wild, it also looks like the head it sitting better on the neck post. In the loose shot the giraffe-neck effect is in full-force.

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I agree with many of the other posters so far - this line is a complete piece of trash. They are out of their minds for even wasting time, money & resources on it.

Ok - so you don't want to do playsets, then fine. How about coming out with $10 range deluxe figures that come with either a small vehicle or the PIECE to a playset.

What bothers me is that Hasbro has outright said there will not be an offering in the $10 price point range in 2008 - yeah, of course not, because Mighty Crudds are taking that space!

 ::)

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These both look great. I'll definitely be getting two openers of each set in addition to my MIB ones.

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I'm expecting the Hoth Speeder Bike Patrol to look just like the Titanium Blizzard Force Speeder Bike that just came out.

Essentially it's a Snowtrooper on a white/gray speeder bike.

We'll probably get a pair of them with General Veers (who has been identified as commanding Blizzard Force).

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Collect All 92! / Re: Vintage Figures Which Have Not Been Updated
« on: January 2, 2008, 12:53 PM »
Yeah, but after 13 years, Hasbro still has us wanting certain figures.  I'm sure that was their plan, and it's working.

Sure for the long term collectors, yes that is indeed a carrot that Hasbro is dangling over our heads.

For the kids who got into Star Wars toys during the EP2/Clone Wars/EP3 years, the Kenner Vintage Line means nothing to them. Heck, even if I was a kid who was 6 or 7 when Hasbro kicked all of this stuff off again in 1995, I would care less whether or not Warok and Lumat had been made yet. I'd rather see a female ewok with woklings.

I think the line would be moving along just fine regardless of whether or not these 10 to 15 figures had been remade. Even if they are done this year, like I said in my post, this thread is merely replaced by "What Characters Have Yet to be Immortalized in Plastic" and "Which POTF2 Figures Could Use an Upgrade". The debates and discussions of a similar nature never really end.


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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Clone Wars AT-TE
« on: January 1, 2008, 12:49 PM »
Ditto - while I will still buy it with a $150 price tag, I think that they should really do their best to keep it UNDER the $100 mark.

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The Clone Wars '08-'13 / Re: Anakin's Clone Wars Jedi Starfighter
« on: January 1, 2008, 12:48 PM »
Whenever I think of Anakin's Clone Wars Starfighter, I think of this monstrosity::)

I'd rather see Hasbro take a stab at that LEGO one than re-releasre this crazy ship again...

I dunno - I liked that design. It made sense in terms of modifications to an existing Delta-7 that you could see Anakin actually making.


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The Legacy Collection / Re: New Evolution Sets
« on: January 1, 2008, 12:27 PM »
Interesting ideas, Pete.  Maybe they had been planned to be carded.

Well - I think Hasbro had always intended on putting out the Secret Apprentice in a box set like this. If I recall, shortly after Toy Fair, in one of their Q&A sessions when asked why the Secret Apprentice wasn't part of the Force Unleashed assortment, the response Hasbro came back with was "we have something special planned for the Apprentice character" - to me this three figure set is definitely something special.

It gives me great hope for this game - more than anything else, this figure set confirms that the game itself will work in a manner similar to KOTOR and KOTOR II - that was the best part of those games in my opinion, the ability to play the game differently and affect your character, your companion characters and the end result of the game.

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The Legacy Collection / Re: New Evolution Sets
« on: January 1, 2008, 11:05 AM »
Is it just me, or is Hasbro taking a huge chance by only releasing the "Hero" of the game in a 20.00 + set?  Wouldn't it have made sense to have these carded, so kids could actually choose the one they wanted?  Not ony that, but with Hasbro's poor scheduling, I bet that this set, and the carded figures hit at very different times.

I think that an Evolutions set was the only way they could give us all three in-game versions of the Apprentice.

If they had individually carded the Apprentice character there was no way that they could have put all three versions into the assortment.

The big problem here is that the Force Unleashed project was postponned from 2007. If it had come out as planned then sure, perhaps carding the Apprentice would have been okay, but with The Clone Wars cartoon and toy-line on the horizon. Hasbro has a very small window with which to strike with Force Unleashed merchandise. If we didn't get the Jedi Knight version of the apprentice now, there's a chance we'd never get him.

Also, think about it - there's no way that the Sith Lord outcome will be the canon ending that is presented in the comics and the book. Clearly the Sith Lord outcome is as a result of either killing Vader or helping Vader kill the Emperor or even possibly killing them both - and since the game pre-dates ANH, we all know that doesn't happen.

What IS more likely is that the love between Juno and the Apprentice pushes him to the light-side, he squares off against Vader and is put into a situation where he ends up dead or in hiding. In fact almost as a tongue-in-cheek type result, I could see them working something into the game where Vader is almost like "damn, I wish I hadn't killed Padme, she could have birthed a son who could have been my apprentice and surely my son wouldn't have turned on me! blah blah blah..."


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Collect All 92! / Re: Vintage Figures Which Have Not Been Updated
« on: January 1, 2008, 10:50 AM »
Pete- I think you're letting Hasbro off too easy with your suggested modifications of existing figures.  After what Hasbro showed us this year, they just can't cheapen out on us now.  They really must sculpt new ewoks, because there are so many head and body shapes and sizes (I've repainted several myself, and while they look good, they are still recognizable as Romba and Graak); it's also really time for a new Bespin Guard sculpt with better articulation and closed jacket.

I guess I was approaching the situation with a more practical angle of how Hasbro could easily polish off the rest of the Vintage figures as opposed to dragging the modernization of the original 96 figures out another 12 years.

Hasbro has said they will keep making themed waves. They have also stated numerous times that a retooled figure with new paint ops is how they can spread the costs around in a wave when they give us completely new figures.

So in a hypothetical ANH wave, I would welcome them releasing a Death Star Trooper repainted in gray, a Commander Praji using the existing Imperial Officer body only with a new head and then using those cost savings to deliver us a much needed SA Rebel Blockade Runner trooper.

Same thing goes with a hypothetical Endor battle themed ROTJ wave - I'd rather see them employ cost savings and give us repaints of Romba and Graak w/new accessories and cowls so that they could spend the resources on making a SA B-Wing pilot along the same lines as this year's A-Wing pilot.

Yes, I agree with you that Hasbro really SHOULD give us a SA Bespin Guard sculpt that could then have a running variation to provide variety to our Bespin Security Force ranks. At this point, with so few figures left to do from ESB, that would be fine with me. It would also be great if they gave us a SA Hoth Rebel Trooper that could easily be repainted/modified to represent the troopers inside Echo Base AND the troopers in the trenches.

I guess for me I would like to see this issue put to bed. Back in 1995, it seemed unimaginable that by 2007 we'd all still be discussing "what vintage figures have yet to be redone". Considering how many figures we've gotten and the fact that there were only 96 of them originally, it's kinda silly that we still have these lists of 10 - 15 figures still left to be redone.

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30th Anniversary Collection / Re: 2008 Order 66 packs?
« on: December 31, 2007, 07:17 PM »
Maybe it's a test shot of the figure and the skirt is going to be black in the final product?

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Collect All 92! / Re: Vintage Figures Which Have Not Been Updated
« on: December 31, 2007, 07:16 PM »
Here's my list of what still needs to be done:

Death Squad Commander - this one should have been handled this year by a running paint-op variation on the Death Star Trooper figure
Bespin Security Guard - Black
Bespin Security Guard - White w/Moustache
Imperial Commander (a Commander Praji from ANH would be sufficient)
Hoth Rebel Trooper - Echo Base Colors
Klaatu
Nikto
B-Wing Pilot (has to be a Human pilot in a red jumpsuit)
Imperial Dignitary
Lumat
Warok

List isn't all that long. I think the design of a SA Bespin Guard figure modified from the POTJ one would be easily accomplished and allow for Hasbro to easily make both versions to appease everyone who wants all of the vintage Kenner figures re-done.

The Death Squad Commander should be easy to do - just take the Death Star Trooper figure from this year and paint the uniform gray.

For the Imperial Commander, just use the same Imperial Officer body that they are using for the Comic 2-pack Luke, paint it black, stick a new head on it and you're done.

For the last two Ewoks - just repaint the 2-pack we just got. I know that it's not perfect, but it's good enough.

Jabba's skiff guards and palace guards all need an upgrade. I have some of the older POTF2 ones next to Ephant Mon and Hermi Odle and they look ridiculous.

I doubt we'll ever get the Sim Aloo/Imperial Dignitary figure. They had a chance in the Saga2 line and instead went with two different dignitaries.

If they gave us a good SA X-Wing Pilot Body and a SA B-Wing Pilot Body along the same lines as this year's A-Wing pilot, they could be keeping us happy with SA Rebel Pilots from now until the cows come home, all they need to do is just keep slightly modifying the paint scheme, head sculpt and helmet markings.


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