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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 01:34 PM »
I heard this rumor last fall that I just ignored, but now it seems to make sense now.  Take this all with a grain of sand. The line would relaunch in 2006 with every major figure being released in updated form on original cards similar to that of either the OTC or the VOTC cardbacks.  With each Movie Banner appearing on the card. In other words Han Solo on New Hope card, Qui-Gon Jinn on Phantom card etc. In my opinion I cant see Hasbro re-releasing obsure characters in this line but it seems like nostalgic dream come true if this pans out.  With the success of the retro cardbacks it seems pretty plausible. 

If you look at the back of the Early Bird Kit here you can see at the top of the packaging that it says:

The Stars of Star Wars

I wonder if that's going to be the concept of the new line... it fits with rebeltrader's rumor - primarily MAIN characters from each of the six movies packaged in VOTC style packaging.

I would definitely go for it - as long as they make VOTC style ESB and ROTJ versions of Luke and SA versions of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu and Anakin, I'll be stoked!

This also means it's a good chance for them to give us some LONG OVERDUE Padme/Amidala outfits that are backlogged from all three PT movies!

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: March 30, 2005, 01:08 PM »
Well - if you count ONLY single carded figures let's see:

OTC: 39
CloneWars (movie style): 13
CloneWars (animated): 14
Saga: 135
POTJ: 56
EP1: 50
SOTE: 5
EU: 9
POTF2: 103
Jorg Sacul
Toy Fair Vader
Chrome R2-D2
Silver Fett
Silver Clone
Silver Sandtrooper
Silver Vader
Battlefront Bikerscout

That makes for a total of 432

What I included: the Hall of Fame wave as part of Saga's tally, Fan Club Holo Emperor as part of OTC. I counted the Animated Clone color variants as individual figures, I counted the movied-styled colored Clones that came cared with Anakin, Yoda and the ARC Trooper as three more figures in the Clone Wars tally. I counted the Battledroid variants for EP1 as individual figures. The POTF2 tally includes both the individually carded Vader sculpting variant that was originally a SOTE 2-pack figure AND the Fan Club exclusive Wurher.

So basically I counted RELEASE instead of actual figure.

If you add 58 (for ROTS) and 1 (for 300th Fett) to 432 you get 492 - 8 figures shy of the 500 mark. Adding the 12 VOTC figures to that tally brings the total up to 504! So you could easily "play" with the numbers to make the Meditation Chamber Vader the actual 500th figure - just put that last five ROTS figures AFTER the 500th Vader in the list.

I suppose if you discount EVERY OTC and Hall of Fame figure that is actually just a repack, discount the paint-op variants for things like Battledroids and Clonetroopers, you might get down to a number that you could add the original vintage count of what 76 figures (?) to bring the tally closer to 500.

So believe it or not, if you stick to single carded only then we're actually pretty close.

What amazes me is that there were less than 100 total figures made for the OT in the vintage line. Since 1995 there have been well over 400 figures made. So that averages out to over 40 a year. The vintage line only averaged at roughly 12 figures a year.

Amazing huh? And what makes it more amazing is that this doesn't even include Deluxe, pack-in, Electronic, Millenium Minted Coin, boxed, etc... figures

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:46 PM »
Diamond - Don't know what it is yet?

Yeah - this one has me freaked out a bit 'cause it can only mean ONE thing - lots of $$$$ will be required to purchase what I need. Just like it took me paying for an entire case of the EE SA Clones to get what I needed there.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: April/2005 - Your Plan of Action
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:42 PM »
Yeah, I noticed some of those missing as well, so this probably isn't entirely accurate.  You know we should at least be seeing the earlier numbered figures (Yoda, Vader, Emperor).

Not to mention the fact that I KNOW WalMart has received Collection 1, Wave 2 - (Tarfful, Spinning Yoda, Obi#2, Ani#2) - cases have been visually verified in the stockroom AND I saw but was not allowed to purchase a case of Col 1, Wave 2 figs late last week. So I've physically held all four of these figures in my hands.

My thinking is the the Yoda on the site is in error (to say the least) - the figure that should be pictured is III-3, not III-26

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:36 PM »
So this thing is only going to be available at the 400 tent stores, huh? Why the **** is it not a chain-wide thing?

There's a RUMOR floating around that the kit will be available on the website as well - but there are 400 tent stores that will have 100 kits each. That puts the exclusive at a production run of 40,000 - which seems to be in keeping with the rest of the exclusives.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: April/2005 - Your Plan of Action
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:34 PM »
Interesting - I only see 29 different figures on the WalMart website:

III-1 Obi-Wan Kenobi
III-2 Anakin Skywalker
III-4 SuperBattleDroid
III-5 Chewbacca
III-6 CloneTrooper
III-7 R2-D2
III-8 Grievous Bodyguard
III-9 General Grievous
III-13 Count Dooku
III-14 Chancellor Palpatine
III-15 Bail Organa
III-16 Plo Koon
III-17 BattleDroid
III-18 C-3PO
III-19 Padme
III-20 Agen Kolar
III-21 Shaak Ti
III-22 Kit Fisto
III-23 Royal Guard (blue pictured)
III-24 Mon Mothma
III-26 Yoda (Spinning Attack)
III-29 Ki-Adi Mundi
III-30 Saesee Tiin
III-31 Luminara Unduli
III-32 Aayla Secura
III-37 Vader's Medical Droid
III-38 AT-TE Gunner
III-39 Polis Massan
III-40 Mas Amedda


Where the heck are:

III-3 Yoda
III-10 Mace Windu
III-11 Darth Vader
III-12 Palpatine
III-25 Tarfful
III-27 Obi-Wan
III-28 Anakin
III-33 Clone Commander
III-34 Clone Pilot
III-35 Emperor Palpatine
III-36 General Grevious

I'm happy to see that the AT-TE Gunner is on WalMart's site, but I was REALLY hoping to see the Clone Commander and Clone Pilot come out on Friday/Saturday!  :(

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:13 PM »
This is a movie question really but...

Is Plo Koon's starfighter the one that Bail Organa uses to track down Yoda and Obi-Wan?

I think I recall that somewhere Bail Organa gets the tracking beacon from a Jedi Starfighter and uses that beacon to hook up with Obi-Wan and Yoda.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 12:09 PM »
Is that a hairy Chewie in there on the back.  Those look like pictures of figures, not people.   :-\

It's neither - it's simply artwork - circa 1977.

- Peter

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 11:38 AM »
Thanks for the info Pete, I was curious about that. Have you heard any information that would lead you to believe that Rebelscum's report on this being the beginning to a "new line" is true? I wish we'd get some sort of confirmation on this while we're contemplating dropping $30 on these empty boxes ;).

Unfortunately no - all he knows is that the empty box has a coupon to send in to get Luke, Leia, R2 and Chewie just like the original EB kit.

We were talking last night about it and hypothesizing about whether or not they will end up being VOTC re-treads or slightly modified VOTC figures or something new altogether. But that was just talk and speculation/wishful thinking.

So yeah - those of us who get these things are definitely taking a gamble on what it is we're going to get for our money - much like parents did back before X-Mas 1977. Ironic huh? Especially for me since my mom got me one of the original EB kits and I played the heck out of those figures!

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter
« on: March 30, 2005, 11:34 AM »
To me, this SMACKS of GL throwing Hasbro a "bone" as it were and putting in a couple of the old-school Delta-7 Aethersprite Jedi Starfighters so Hasbro could simply re-release the AOTC toy with different paint ops.

Personally, I'll be okay with it if they continue to balance re-paints/re-releases with new vehicles - looking at the cards - I want a V-Wing even more now!


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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 11:28 AM »
I have been able to confirm via my friend who works for Hasbro that the Early Bird kits will only be available at the stores having tent events AND only become available for sale when the tent event starts in the morning. So even though a store is open at midnight AND they're having a tent event they shouldn't be making available the Early Bird Kit until 8 AM in the morning.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 2005 Red Metallic Darth Vader @ Target
« on: March 30, 2005, 10:32 AM »
Brilliant idea Jeff - Target DOES price adjustments, so anything is possible. Worth going out to Target on Sunday just to try it.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Target Coupon... Some hope?
« on: March 30, 2005, 10:29 AM »
Well - I got my coupon so that means I will be buying a majority of the figures I need at Target.

I will pick up some Army Builders at TRU during MM, only because I'm worried about getting everything I need - especially if there are limited numbers of the Clone Commander/Pilot/AT-TE Gunner waves. If I also come across three Red Royal Guards and two blue Senate Guards at TRU, I'm grabbing them there too.

I'm debating my strategy on what to do in Target. I already plan on being pretty close to the front of the line, but I'm worried that if I go shopping for figures BEFORE I purchase the Vader, the Red Lava Vaders will be all gone (even though I have a ticket in my hand). So I think what I'll do is take myself, my wife and my son, grab our three tickets and immediately go purchase the Lava Vaders. At that time I'll send my wife on her way with the Vader booty and then I'll head to the back of the store to shop for the rest of the figures I need. It might mean I might miss out on some of the later figures, but that's a small price to pay to ensure getting three MOC/Mint Clamshell Lava Reflection Vaders.

Hey - here's a question though - the coupon simply says "Present this at Target on April 2 to receive $1 off every Star Wars action figure purchased."

Does that include the Vader? Does that include Deluxe Figures? Does that include 12" and Unleashed Figures?

It would be great if it did - does anyone know if this coupon only applies to the basic $5.99 figures?

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 2005 RotS Figures Release List
« on: March 30, 2005, 10:18 AM »
So has anyone heard any more about whether or not we're going to see figures up to #32 or up to #40?

We know people have found some of the figures that come in the "Wave 3" assortments but from what I've been told, the stock rooms in the back are mostly Waves 1 & 2 of both collections.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 10:14 AM »
I'll be even MORE pissed when next January these "relaunched" figures are everywhere and I'll wonder why the heck it was so important to buy the damn EB kit waaaay back in April.   >:(

To be honest, if you think you're more inclined to get the figures when they are mass released come December/January then I would wait.

These four figures will, just like their 1977/1978 vintage counterparts, be also available as part of the regular toy line - I highly doubt that the Early Bird kit will be the ONLY way to get these four characters.

I think for Hasbro, this is a brilliant idea. They should be hyping the fact that these four figures will be part of the line's re-birth/launch 'cause I think that would only end up enticing more collectors to buy the kits. But that should only be if you're a collector of EVERYTHING. You WANT the Early Bird Kit packaging variants (for example). If you don't care about what the packaging is then I would wait, 'cause come Jan. 2006 you ARE going to be pissed that you drove 40 miles to a WalMart to get a $30 empty box for figures that came four months later which were mass-released right before Christmas.

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