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Clone Wars '03-'05 / Re: Possible Animated Wave 4?
« on: March 31, 2005, 09:34 AM »
Is anyone expecting these this weekend (the new ones I mean)?  Or is that just a pipe dream?  I suppose no leaks from the Far East makes it rather unlikely.

Yeah - nothing this weekend is definite. Perhaps you might see stores that still have stock of the Wave 3 figures putting them out, but that's about it.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: More OT or E3 figs before years end?
« on: March 31, 2005, 09:21 AM »
I too would prefer that the line remain purely ROTS this year. There can be the odd item here and there like the 500th Vader figure or the 5-pack sets. But I doubt we're going to see any serious effort made at OT figures until the "relaunch" in 2006.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 31, 2005, 09:18 AM »
So Hasbro officially announced the Early Bird set, but they still don't tell us what the figures are going to look like.  My guess is they haven't even got a clue yet.  They threw this together and are going to rely on sales of ROTS figures to determine whether or not the line will keep going.

Unfortunately, this is probably the REAL story right now unfortunately.

I would not be surprised to hear that Hasbro has found great success from retailers with speculative purchasing of the Sigma Six line for GI Joe and as such they are applying the same mentality to the Star Wars toy line.

For me, a scale change would signal my exit - while I absolutely LOVE Star Wars, the exact same thing that happened with the Star Trek line will happen to Star Wars - the "new" line will FAIL - just like Art Asylum's far superior (but out of scale with the Playmates line) Star Trek figures did/has.

I think if ROTS sells well and retailers are pleased they will continue to be willing to support Hasbro making a 3-3/4" line. If the retailers are NOT pleased with the performance of ROTS then Hasbro will NEED to change almost EVERYTHING about the toy line in order to try to get the toy buyers to "bite".

I will still buy as many as three Early Bird kits come Saturday morning and send away for two of these sets (keeping the third EB package mint) -- if the figures I get back are 3-3/4", I'll be happy, I'll be happy even if they are simply VOTC in a white mailer box, at least to me it indicates the direction the line is heading.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter
« on: March 30, 2005, 06:45 PM »
The supplement doesn't necessarily explain why Plo Koon's still flying around in one of the older models though - or why it has a design similar to Anakin's.

Perhaps the rest of the book will....

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Spanish Magazine Scan: Death Star
« on: March 30, 2005, 06:15 PM »
I still can't believe people are that bothered about the DS being shown under construction.  People act like that is not realistic.  Well, this is a Star Wars movie people.  You would think that is the coolest if you were a little kid.  Admit it. 

Who knows?  Maybe the labor unions went on strike or the techno union was really hurt by Wat Tambor's early demise at the hands of Anakin - er - Vader.

Don't get me wrong - I'm totally stoked that we get to see the DS under construction in this movie. For me I'm just wondering about the second one and when construction of it starts. Also - realize that it was ONLY plans at the time of AOTC - so in three years it's gone from nothing to this. Not bad progress IMHO.


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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 2005 RotS Figures Release List
« on: March 30, 2005, 04:29 PM »
So has anyone heard any more about whether or not we're going to see figures up to #32 or up to #40?

We know people have found some of the figures that come in the "Wave 3" assortments but from what I've been told, the stock rooms in the back are mostly Waves 1 & 2 of both collections.

Well - to sorta answer my own question - according to the "wise" scribes over at RS - there is an outside chance we'll see figures up to #40. They have posted a checklist for use during the 2nd...

RS April 2nd Checklist

(you need Adobe Acrobat to view the file)

Also - what do you all think the chances are that there will be the Cup w/Figure set at Target? We haven't see ANY pics of this thing yet only rumors. Seems odd to me - we've seen all of the other exclusives...

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: March 30, 2005, 04:23 PM »
And let's face it - regardless of release date, Hasbro always has the ultimate wiggle room and can say "Well this is the Xth figure that we conceived" and put any figure they want and any milestone they want. It would be nice to see an all-comprehensive encyclopedia on the Modern line get made so you could (a) fully appreciate the depth to this line and (b) make sure you have everything you want according to your own collecting standards...

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 04:21 PM »
I just don't think we are going to get obscure figures like Porkins, Lt Faytonni, Ach Med Beg, etc.  However, I can see them still making Admiral Piett, Bossk, AT-AT Driver or even a Dignitary.  I am almost sure we'll get Luke in almost every outfilt.  Same with Han and Leia. 

re: Obscure chracters... that's true, but I'd settle for really great versions of Tarkin, Wedge, 4-LOM and Zuckuss and I'll be happy...

Besides who the heck needed Lt. Faytonni and Ach Med Beq anyway? I got 'em but only 'cause I'm a completist. But if you look at the article the Insider did on the Outlander club from AOTC, there are WAY more interesting looking characters that could have been done from that sequence instead!

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 04:00 PM »
If they are "rebooting" the line and starting over symbolically with the Luke, Leia, R2 and Chewie - I hope (for sanity's sake), when they do this, it means that they're going to handle the line a bit more like it was handled during the vintage days.

There was only ONE Tatooine Luke from ANH - sure he got re-released under the ESB and ROTJ banners, but there was never a second, third, fourth, etc... sculpt of the figure.

I would be happy if they use this line to put stakes in the ground and say "This is the ultimate Tatooine Luke and we'll never make another version of Luke in this outfit." If done with the right amount of accessories (long rifle, floppy hat, tan poncho, swappable belts (black vs. Stormtrooper) , binoculars, imperial blaster and lightsaber (lit and unlit)) and a high-level of articulation (at least 15 points) -- then I'd be okay with that.

If you think about it this would help the line survive the longest. Constantly re-issue the exact same figure in the exact same packaging and your profit margin goes up.

I could see them making eight Luke figures and that's it - ultimate versions of Luke from Tatooine, Luke in Stormtrooper Disguise, Luke in Flight Suit/Gear, Luke in ANH Celebration Outfit, Luke on Hoth, Luke on Dagobah, Luke in Bespin Fatigues, Luke in ROTJ (with plenty of accessories to cover Jabbas Palace, Endor AND the final duel).

If they took some of the same principles they have already started to put into some figures and incorporate it into EVERY figure, this could easily be done.

Take for example Luke in Hoth Gear - all you need there is some interchangeable hands, two heads (pre and post Wampa attack), well articulated legs, ankles, ball-jointed shoulders and jointed elbows and you're all set.

Luke in Flight Suit could come with enough interchangeable pieces so that it would apply to either X-Wing OR Snowspeeder

Jedi Luke could have interchangeable hands, black vest, camo poncho, rebel helmet and lit/unlit lightsabers.

For other characters there would be only the need for one or two versions - Darth Vader, C-3PO, R2-D2 and Chewie all come to mind.

The other plus is that they might be thinking of applying VOTC type detail to PT characters. Who wouldn't LOVE to have a SA Darth Maul or Jango Fett?

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: March 30, 2005, 03:41 PM »
Did we have an actual lineup to get to Fett 300?  Looking at the back of my Fett you cant clearly see how they got to that point since the numbnuts at Hasbro put 4 freakin pictures covering up the lineup.  Id like to see that lineup and then try to get to 500 from there. 

Nope - their methodology of getting to 300 for Fett (or 100 for the Vintage Han w/Carbonite or 200 for EU Mara Jade) was always sketchy at best

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 03:13 PM »
Welcome ruiner - I did the same thing at the beginning of February (phased out my presence over on the RS forums and moved to here). You'll find the boards here to be a much more plesant environment.

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: March 30, 2005, 03:03 PM »
You forgot the Vintage Line.  This is what I get without variations and just basic carded.  Did not include mailaways (Spirit Ben, Han Storm, Mace Sneak, Oola, Kabe & Muftak, B'Omarr) ??? No Cinema Scenes, DLX, etc. ???...

Yeah - as it turns out I left a lot of stuff out - I didn't include the 4 AOTC Preview Figs, the 4 ROTS Preview Figs, and the entire POTC line. I didn't include the Bikerscount POTJ variant, the ARC Trooper Clone Wars Variant, and the ROTS Royal Guard variant - that's a total of 26 more figures.

So, if you take just modern individually carded figures, my total comes up to 530 which is WAY past the 500 count.

So if you discount painting variants of the same release - that subtracts:
Clone Wars: 4
Clone Wars (Animated): 3
EP1: 3
POTJ: 1
ROTS: 1
So you'd have to minus 12 from my tally bringing the number to 518

So there's still a huge discrepency regardless of whether or not you include the vintage line (which the tally for the 300th Fett DID include).

You only really start dropping the tally when you take the Cantina Han figure that first came out on POTF CommTech and then has been released to death in HOF, Saga, OTC and POTC (for example).

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TV-9D9 / Re: Clone Wars Half Hour Show!
« on: March 30, 2005, 01:36 PM »
And the great thing about it is that it appears to be something in addition to them doing a live-action TV series in the fall of 2006 (which has also been rumored)

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: March 30, 2005, 01:34 PM »
I heard this rumor last fall that I just ignored, but now it seems to make sense now.  Take this all with a grain of sand. The line would relaunch in 2006 with every major figure being released in updated form on original cards similar to that of either the OTC or the VOTC cardbacks.  With each Movie Banner appearing on the card. In other words Han Solo on New Hope card, Qui-Gon Jinn on Phantom card etc. In my opinion I cant see Hasbro re-releasing obsure characters in this line but it seems like nostalgic dream come true if this pans out.  With the success of the retro cardbacks it seems pretty plausible. 

If you look at the back of the Early Bird Kit here you can see at the top of the packaging that it says:

The Stars of Star Wars

I wonder if that's going to be the concept of the new line... it fits with rebeltrader's rumor - primarily MAIN characters from each of the six movies packaged in VOTC style packaging.

I would definitely go for it - as long as they make VOTC style ESB and ROTJ versions of Luke and SA versions of Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Mace Windu and Anakin, I'll be stoked!

This also means it's a good chance for them to give us some LONG OVERDUE Padme/Amidala outfits that are backlogged from all three PT movies!

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Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: March 30, 2005, 01:08 PM »
Well - if you count ONLY single carded figures let's see:

OTC: 39
CloneWars (movie style): 13
CloneWars (animated): 14
Saga: 135
POTJ: 56
EP1: 50
SOTE: 5
EU: 9
POTF2: 103
Jorg Sacul
Toy Fair Vader
Chrome R2-D2
Silver Fett
Silver Clone
Silver Sandtrooper
Silver Vader
Battlefront Bikerscout

That makes for a total of 432

What I included: the Hall of Fame wave as part of Saga's tally, Fan Club Holo Emperor as part of OTC. I counted the Animated Clone color variants as individual figures, I counted the movied-styled colored Clones that came cared with Anakin, Yoda and the ARC Trooper as three more figures in the Clone Wars tally. I counted the Battledroid variants for EP1 as individual figures. The POTF2 tally includes both the individually carded Vader sculpting variant that was originally a SOTE 2-pack figure AND the Fan Club exclusive Wurher.

So basically I counted RELEASE instead of actual figure.

If you add 58 (for ROTS) and 1 (for 300th Fett) to 432 you get 492 - 8 figures shy of the 500 mark. Adding the 12 VOTC figures to that tally brings the total up to 504! So you could easily "play" with the numbers to make the Meditation Chamber Vader the actual 500th figure - just put that last five ROTS figures AFTER the 500th Vader in the list.

I suppose if you discount EVERY OTC and Hall of Fame figure that is actually just a repack, discount the paint-op variants for things like Battledroids and Clonetroopers, you might get down to a number that you could add the original vintage count of what 76 figures (?) to bring the tally closer to 500.

So believe it or not, if you stick to single carded only then we're actually pretty close.

What amazes me is that there were less than 100 total figures made for the OT in the vintage line. Since 1995 there have been well over 400 figures made. So that averages out to over 40 a year. The vintage line only averaged at roughly 12 figures a year.

Amazing huh? And what makes it more amazing is that this doesn't even include Deluxe, pack-in, Electronic, Millenium Minted Coin, boxed, etc... figures

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