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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Concept Clone
« on: July 1, 2005, 12:26 PM »
Well - I threw my hat into the ring and I'm now the high bidder.

Wish me luck everyone.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: "Evolutions" assortment...
« on: July 1, 2005, 11:12 AM »
Amazon says they can ship both the Anakin and Clone sets in 2 to 3 days. Is this for real or am I going to end up waiting?

Has anyone ordered from Amazon and had the stuff arrive in good shape? That's my biggest concern.

They also have Tarkin, Ask Aak and Meena Tills in stock and I need all three of them and I'm tempted to just suck it up and pay the $7.99 price tag since (a) it's cheaper than the going rate on eBay and (b) I have come up completely empty on finding these three figures locally - they supposedly hit in the middle of May, but I missed them completely...

They also say they have in the first two battle packs to ship in 2 to 3 days.

Any advice? Should I chance it with the figures and then wait to get the 3 and 5 figure multi-packs in store?

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: July 1, 2005, 10:28 AM »
Yeah, great review there Pete.  Feels like I've got one already, after reading that.  And I assume there's not a single mention on the packaging anywhere of exactly how Hasbro actually reached that magic 500 number, right? (forgive me if I missed that)

- M

The packaging itself merely has a statement on the bottom of how this figure commemorates the 500th action figure produced by Hasbro and how iconic Darth Vader is. Blah blah blah. No effort whatsoever is made to illustrate how they arrived at the number 500 and what 499 figures came before this one.

So we're just going to have to take this for what it is - a nice display piece, with a pretty decent figure inside.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 30, 2005, 01:58 PM »
Pete, just another quick question about the loose presentation of Vader.  Does he sit well/steady in the seat of the chamber on his own, and how is he "held down" there, if at all?

The figure sits REALLY well in the seat of the chamber. In fact the chair "pad" itself as been sculpted with "butt" and "thigh" indents, like you would see if you sat in a really cushy chair and then got up - a "mold" of your butt would be left behind. There is nothing that physically restrains or holds the figure down unless you have the helmet armiture at the lowest level - it does "click" into place there and since that means the helmet is fully on the figures head, that does serve to hold the figure in place. I found that even with the armiture all the way up though, the figure still sits nicely in the chair, doesn't wobble, lean or fall out of the chair.

Oh, and is the figure easy to replace in the packaging once you've opened it up?  I'm definitely going to open it, but the way it looks in the package is cool too, so I was wondering if it could be "stored and displayed" without any weirdness with seams in the packaging or rips/tears/dents/etc.

If you discount the base cardboard this piece can definitely be pseudo re-packaged after you open it. The outer shell plastic that forms the "top" of the chamber is REALLY thick and sturdy. So don't go cutting into it or anything - not only will you kill your hands, but you'll also ruin a really nice display piece.

In fact, the plastic shell is covering the piece on the top of my monitor at home right now - I don't have any intention on throwing away that piece of the packaging. Also since the figure comes with a "try me" type packaging the knob to raise and lower the armiture for the dome of the helmet is still accessible with the shell in place - so there's no loss to the motion of the helmet being raised or lowered.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: New Clone 5 Pack!
« on: June 30, 2005, 01:51 PM »
If anyone still has a Star Wars aisle in their Target, take a good look at the running (at you) clonetrooper that is in the graphics. You'll see that the clone is mostly white except for the gray shoulder pads.

My guess is that a Target exec somewhere said "hey, where are the clones that look like the artwork we have in the store?!?"

Thus this set was born...

Just another wacky theory of mine!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Concept Clone
« on: June 30, 2005, 01:25 PM »
I really like this custom A LOT and I love it even more when a talented customizer goes the full distance and cards the figure up.

I am really fighting the temptation to try and win this thing.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 30, 2005, 01:23 PM »
Nice story, Pete. Stick it to the man!

Anychance you have the VOTC Vader? If so, could you compare it with the Chamber Vader? They look almost the same to me in pics...

Ok Diddly - here you go...

Accessory Differences:
The VOTC Vader came with a cape, lit lightsaber, and unlit lightsaber.

The 500th Vader comes with a cape, lit lightsaber and an interchangeable set of right hands - one right hand holds the saber, the other is the one the figure is shipped with - an open, relaxed hand that "rests" on his right knee when sitting in the chamber.

Articulation Differences:
The VOTC Vader features a ball joint neck, shoulders, and knees. Rotating joints for the elbows, articulation at the wrists, hips, wrists and waist.

The 500th Vader features ONLY ball joined knees. The neck and shoulders have reverted back to SW Standard rotation only joints. The elbows, hips and waist are all articulated the same.

Sculpting/Design Differences:
The two figures themselves are completely different pieces. I really couldn't tell that any VOTC parts had been reused on the 500th Vader figure. The closest items are his legs, which have been modified/re-tooled to offer Vader a wider stance in the 500th figure.

The torso, arms and head are all new, particularly because the head of course now features a partially removeable helmet and because how all of these pieces come together now with rotating joints instead of wide range of motion ball-like joints.

The belt looks the same, but is new, it does not feature a hole to insert an unlit lightsaber, probably because the figure doesn't come with one. This IMHO was a mistake, his lightsaber should be holstered while he is sitting in the chair.

The cape of the VOTC is supposedly removeable, but I have never tried to remove it. The cape of the 500th figure looks to be identical, but you can remove it - in fact it is not in the figure in the packaging, but folded into a square in a plastic bag underneath. The cape still suffers from the awkwardness of the silver cloth "chain" that doesn't hang right on the figure no matter what you do.

The shape and sculpt of the helmet on both figures differs - the 500th Vader head is wider and the removeable dome piece is shaped differently than with the VOTC version.

Both figures, as I mentioned, have that lousy rotating elbow joint which should have been replaced by the same type of joint used in the elbows of the SA Clonetrooper.

Final Thoughts:
For being the 500th figure, Hasbro presents a nice display piece. A piece that will display well either in or out of the packaging and they provide a protective shell for the packaging that even openers of their toys may want to keep simply because the plastic it's made out of is so sturdy.

If they were going to have this figure stand out from the VOTC version instead of decreasing the level of articulation they should have increased it. I would have started with the VOTC figure as a base, changed the head and then added ball jointed elbows and hips to provide the ultimately articulated Vader. The ball joint elbows on my SA Clonetroopers and ball joint hips on my AT-TE Gunner are sturdy and while they may cost a bit more since this figure wasn't going to be at the $5.99 price tag, if it means another $1, they should have taken this opportunity to add to the articulation.

Do I like the piece? Yep. I know it seems like I said more negative comments then positive ones, but as a stand-alone piece, not comparing it to the VOTC version, it's nice. It really only starts to loose it's appeal when you compare it to previously released items and then you start to wish they had done a bit more.

That's my thoughts on it. Now I just need to find a MIB one for my packaged collection!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: New Clone 5 Pack!
« on: June 29, 2005, 02:48 PM »
So - now why if they can make a five pack with four troops and a commander. Why can't the TRU packs be the EXACT SAME concept? Four SA Troops painted with the grunt markings and figure #5 is that unit's commander. Exclusives this time 'round are just bizarre.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: TRU Exclusive Clones!
« on: June 29, 2005, 02:08 PM »
I still don't understand why these are exclusives.  Ok, I get that Hasbro/TRU can crank the price, knowing we'll buy these, but they also know that any clone, whatever the color, is like money in the bank.  Would you want 50,000 of them out there, or 100,000?  More?  These colors would sell forever as part of any future assortment.

This confuses me as well. There four key designs that were in the movie that could easily be applied to the SA Clone (#41) and those variations could be shipped from now until the end of time and they would STILL sell. If the line is indeed going back to a unified Saga banner, just keep shipping the ROTS SA Clone in every other assortment and then vary the paint op, make full count production runs of each variant and just ship the **** out of it. Why pull punches like this on something that is truly "money in the bank"?

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 29, 2005, 02:05 PM »
I have a friend that use to work at TRU and he informed me that TRU's official policy is that the toy has to be on the floor 24 hours prior to a TRU employee purchasing it. Obviously we all know that is crock of ****. This just proves it.

At least the District Manager, and the other store manager did the right thing. Personally if I was that stores direct supervisor I would have fired his ass on the spot.

The Assistant District Manager kept stressing things to me like "we can't/won't hold a toy for anyone" and "we can't personally prevent EVERY employee from buying stuff when the store opens at 10AM"

He said that to me like five to six times. I kept responding to him "Yes, I understand that, but the difference between what you're stating and what ACTUALLY happened is that at 10AM when the doors opened there wasn't even a CHANCE for customers to buy this item, the employees didn't even STOCK IT - they just hid all three of them to buy later on."

I also told him, "Look, if they actually PAID for the item, I don't want you to take it away from anyone, just STOP that practice from happening." - the one he got for me was the one put aside by the manager of the store who hadn't plunked down his money yet, he was planning on doing it later in the day when he got off shift.

When they do things like that it tells me that TRU does indeed have a policy and that policy is that they don't want employees buying toys when they are on the clock. If I ran a retail chain, I wouldn't want to allow my employees to be "shopping" when they should be "working" either. So a policy like that would make sense.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 29, 2005, 01:20 PM »
Nice story, Pete. Stick it to the man!

Anychance you have the VOTC Vader? If so, could you compare it with the Chamber Vader? They look almost the same to me in pics...

I can dig out my VOTC Vader when I get home tonight and make a post about the two tomorrow - fair enough?

I'd post from home tonight except that the new house still doesn't have cable so my cable modem is down for the count at the moment.

But I will definitely be comparing the two. In setting up my office I've decided to decorate my desk with Vader, Clones and Wookies - so I've been wanting to drag out the VOTC Vader anyway.

- Peter

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:58 PM »
I usd to work TRU in the late 80s and that's true, we put stuff aside to buy all the time. though back then, there wasn't an 'ebay' to sell stuff one.

You know what - I know that is done and I know that is just part of collecting. It's sort of like a dirty little secret. It's done, TRU management knows it's done, they know they really can't do much about it, but if the employees are going to do it:

(a) you don't make it obvious

and more importantly

(b) you don't BRAG about being able to do it to customers and claim it is a perk advocated by the company you work for

In retail you just don't do that - you treat the customers with respect, even if you are telling them a lie, you do it with a smile on your face and with a plesant tone so the customer leaves the store happy. You don't infuriate them even more because you have a pre-conceived notion of what type of person I am.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: 500th commemorative figure... Vader?
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:50 PM »
That is an awsome story Pete!

Thanks - I just got done opening up the figure and I absolutely LOVE this thing.

I'm pleased that the plastic dome that goes over the figure for the packaging is so sturdy, I was planing on throwing it out, but I've decided I'm going to keep it with the dome cover over it. Kudos on Hasbro for giving us a piece that even after you open it, it can still have some of that "MIB" display-ability.

I think it's also great that they gave us a spare right hand/glove and the lightsaber. They really didn't need to give us either, but the fact that they did makes all the difference - since it means you can display the figure in the chamber or out, whichever your preference is.

Since we're getting the Evolutions Vader soon as we already have the VOTC Vader from late last year - this Vader will spend most of his life sitting comfortably in his chair!  :)

Definitely worth the $17 IMHO!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: ROTS Recent Purchases
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:17 PM »
Picked up my first 500th Vader today - the packaging is beat up so it'll be my opener. Check out the thread on the 500th Vader for my tale on how I got it!

Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS Wookiee Helicopter with Wookiee
« on: June 29, 2005, 12:16 PM »
I thought the same thing but the wookie on the back has to sit with the legs straight out.  I used a preview wookie thinking the legs would hang out but they don't.

I guess what I mean is that even if the legs are straight out sorta like driving a go-cart - you never are completely "Straight Legged" - understand what I mean? There's still a slight bend in your knees - while my Preview Wookie's legs are straight out, I did bend the knees a little to give it a slightly more "realistic" look to the rear gunner at his post.

It's a minor thing, but for me my loose collection is display pieces and I like them to look as good as possible. So I'm big on figures fitting PERFECTLY in vehicles and actually looking like they're at the controls.

I know - I'm nuts.

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