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Revenge of the Sith / Re: Any ROTS figures you will pass on?
« on: June 7, 2005, 11:02 PM »
I'm not allowed to pass on any figures.  :-\

I'm not only the president of the Insane Lemming Completist Club, I'm also a member...  :-\

Technically Matt - you did pass on Attacktix - I have a bag full of some extras I'll be happy to send you to get started!  ;D

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: June 7, 2005, 10:37 PM »
The ultimate completist horror:

1 x Sealed EB Kit
1 x Open EB Kit (complete)
1 x Mailed away EB Kit --> 1 x Sealed EB Figure Set
1 x Mailed away EB Kit --> 1 x Open EB Figure Set

Heh, heh.  Anyone buy 4 of these?   :o

Jesse - I bought three...

1 x Sealed EB Kit
2 x Open EB Kit complete except for the redemption cert
      --> 1 x Sealed EB Figure Set
      --> 1 x Open EB Figure Set

As far as I was concerned having two of the kits opened but without the redemption certificates and keeping one of them in pristine shape is enough - I really don't need a mint, non-filled-out redemption certificate.

You're right though - it is a horror. I would have rathered been able to walk into the store and buy two sets of these four figures for say $80 total and been done with it.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Target Figure with Cup Sets
« on: June 7, 2005, 09:47 PM »
While I agree that the packaging should become a unified style that encompasses all six movies, I think with these three cups Target sorta strong-armed Hasbro into putting them out with the rest of the ROTS style merchandise.

At this point, I care more about the entire Saga being equally represented in cups. I hope, although I know that it won't happen, that we get AT LEAST two more cups from TPM and AOTC and at least one more cup from the OT so we have three cups from each movie. Fully building out a set of 18 cups w/figures that I could display on a shelf in my collection would be great.

Granted it doesn't help matters that they release clunkers like this new wave - why couldn't the figures packed with the cups this time around have been the VOTC versions? They could, in the future, also turn around and give us a ROTJ Emperor Palpatine cup and an AOTC Count Dooku cup and include the figures from the Sith Evolutions Set. Afterall, they're charging $13 each instead of $10, why not give us re-releases of QUALITY figures instead?

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Target Figure with Cup Sets
« on: June 7, 2005, 07:07 PM »
Seriously though, I'm glad Pawlus confirmed what I said, I'd hate for you to have to take my word for it...  :P

If it makes you feel any better Jeff - I knew you were right. Those pre-orders never materialized so those two or three auctions of samples were it.

$84.37 for six more cups.  That's fun.  ::)

Yeah - tell me about. It's one of those times when I say to myself. "Thank god I collect two of everything like the lemming that I am!"

And I'm hitting three Targets each morning in anticipation of getting these things.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter
« on: June 7, 2005, 06:59 PM »
That's kinda weird - perhaps they either

(a) thought it was in bad taste since the only time it shows up in the movie is to get blown to pieces so they cancelled it


(b) store toy buyers were like "No way" since it is just a repaint of the AOTC Jedi Starfighter toy.

OR (and this one is definitely iffy)

(c) one or perhaps two of the brick and mortar stores bought out the entire production of these and e-tailers like EE are left out in the cold.

I could see TRU grabbing this item as an exclusive 'cause they love to sit on stacks and stacks of vehicles in their stores. The retailer with the most stacks wins!  ::)

Seriously though, with display space shrinking and the only thing that really moves with any velocity are: individually carded figures, electronic lightsabers, Darth Vader Voice Changers and Deluxe Figures, I think the retailers may have passed on it 'cause they are phasing out vehicles in their SW displays.

Hey Hasbro! / Re: do not need more REHASHES!
« on: June 5, 2005, 08:17 PM »
I am so glad there is a thread for this!  Has anyone seen the R2 on Mustafar?  It is the exact same figure, except this one makes noises.  Big deal!  Hasbro has been doing this for years.  Don't get me wrong, i like them, but sometimes they are kind of silly.  For instance, what was really the diffrence with the 2 Yodas from ROTS?  A firing cannon?!  That wasn't even in the movie.

Personally, I'm okay with multiple main characters with different action features and slightly different sculpts. That's just the way the modern line is. Let's face it, the days of there only being ONE Darth Vader, ONE Tatooine Luke, etc... like with the vintage line are LONG GONE. If the figure is different from any previous release then I do not consider it a rehash - it is a re-interpretation of the character in plastic.

I think the R2-D2 on Mustafar is a REHASH of the AOTC Saga Version, but I haven't really been able to compare the two figures to be 100% sure.

I think that in order to survive, the line will need rehashes to keep people who might be new to collecting Star Wars coming to the line. If you think back to the vintage line, while the vintage line didn't have multiple versions of say Tatooine Luke or Darth Vader, both characters were shipped on the cardbacks for all three movies. Being a kid at the time, I really only needed to buy a character again if I had broken one during play, otherwise, the first one I got was the only one.

Now that I'm an adult and I want a complete MOC collection, I think differently than when I was a kid and I turn around and buy the OTC release of the Endor Generals even though less than six months earlier I had just gotten them on Saga cards. It's all a matter of how you view collecting and what's important to your collection.

Sure, now, I view the multiple releases as pain to the wallet, but I could also stop at any time, no one forces me to collect SW toys.

I do like Valin's idea that the 2006/2007 lines should be sprinkled with re-releases of hard-to-find items - I definitely think that a Qui-Gon w/Eopie would be a welcome re-release. So would many of the other items on his list. I think if they return to the black card style then re-hashing figures with a few new or slightly altered figures thrown in every other wave will help keep the line going and encourage new people who were drawn to Star Wars by ROTS to continue collecting once the line turns its focus to the entire saga.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: The Mustafar Playset...
« on: June 5, 2005, 07:48 PM »
These two figures aren't even of the same quality of the Battle Arena figures - the shoulders aren't even ball-jointed as to allow for greater poseability in the figure.

The head sculpt of the Obi-Wan isn't bad - he looks tired, worn-down. The Anakin head sculpt on the other hand is straight out of the POTF/EP1 era complete with ridiculous facial expression.

Hasbro just continues to seem to have problems sculpting accurate representations of the Skywalker boys (Anakin AND Luke) IMHO.

I generally like the playset, there could have been more to it. Hasbro could easily ADD to it which is nice, here's hoping they do in the form of the ROTS equivalent of the AOTC Separatist Leader three-packs - having a "strategy room" with control panels and central console would be a nice addition to this playset. I would definitely be willing to pay $30 each to get three figures and a nice playset segment - as long as the figures are nicely done.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS - Deluxe Figures
« on: June 5, 2005, 06:33 PM »
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.  :(

Nothing to be sorry about - now I understand when I found the remnants of around 10 cases of Wave 3 Deluxe figures at one of my local Target stores the other day ALL 9 or 10 Clonetrooper 3-packs were gone - if the four variants are packaged randomly, the person who found them was bound to need AT LEAST four, if not doubles or more if they are an army builder.

It's when Hasbro does something like this that just makes me sit back and wonder WTF? If they were going to make it that you needed to get four different three packs to have a complete set then they should have shipped cases of NOTHING BUT the Clonetroopers - two of each variety in a case that fit eight packs.

Then at least stores like EE or even could offer the case to the collectors so they could be done with a single purchase.


Revenge of the Sith / Re: The Mustafar Playset...
« on: June 5, 2005, 10:53 AM »
I don't think it's the best playset but for $30 including 2 halfway decent figures I'll take it.  I like the fact that Vader's limbs detach.

Uh - your Vader/Anakin figure that came with the Mustafar playset has limbs that detach?

I went back and checked my Anakin figure from the playset and he doesn't have any removeable parts at all.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: RotS - Deluxe Figures
« on: June 5, 2005, 10:47 AM »
So this must mean there are a total of FOUR different packaging variations for these deluxe clones?!?!?!

And Hasbro goes and packs them 1 per case.


Saga '02-'04 / Re: Star Tours thread... Wave 4 coming soon?
« on: June 4, 2005, 11:03 PM »
Agreed - Wave 4 was the weakest set to date (Wave 3 wasn't much better considering that the Heli-bird thing was lame and the G2-9T was a minimal variant on G2-4T)

They really should have stopped after Wave 2.

Do things sell at the Star Tours shops and Once Upon a Toy? I thought they did well - I mean if you go back in this thread to January, the only Star Tours figures left were Wave 3 and Captain Rex - personally keeping Captain Rex IN STOCK is a smart move simply because he's the most noticeable droid of all.

Are these shops selling the ROTS figures now? Perhaps they're waiting for that to die-down abit. Perhaps they're waiting for Hasbro to package them on ROTS style cards or perhaps they are on hold pending the supposed updating that GL wants to do to Star Tours to incorporate the locals seen in the PT as well as the OT.

I agree with what Matt said all the way back in November - if they are indeed cancelled for good never to be available for purchase that will make me feel like there is a small (albeit midly insignificant) piece of my collection that is incomplete. This feeling is even further enhanced by the fact that someone out there got them on eBay for what would seem to be (in hindsight) a steal.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: Wal-Mart "Early Bird" Exclusive
« on: June 4, 2005, 02:36 PM »
And some of us are so mentally off-kilter (pointing at myself) that they sent away for two ANYWAY 'cause even if they come in a white mailer box, there is a need to have a set of them MIB even if it's a bland/blank white mailer box you can't see the product inside.

I have an unopened white mailer box for every mail-away figure of the modern era (and some of the vintage era) that ever came in that format.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: New pics of 51-56
« on: June 4, 2005, 09:30 AM »
Just playing devil's advocate here - what if the pics of the Antilles and Zett figures were prototypes and they both will have the same level of articulation that most Collection 2 figures possess? Since they most likely put the figures in the poster together VERY quickly to get it out there, some of the later figures (#51 - #56) could have been quickly slapped together for photographing.

Take a look at the Turbo Tank Driver in the poster and compare it to the picture from GH. They are NOT the same figure - if you look at the legs, arms, paint detailing, the fact that the poster's figure has the absence of the utility pack strap, etc...

Another factor is to consider the #35 Palpatine figure - that figure was photographed with a correct Sidious lightsaber at some point in the production process. NONE of the figures produced so far have the correct handle for the lightsaber.

The final factor is the interview with the Hasbro Star Wars team member in the latest EE catalogue. While his answers were very vanilla, he did re-iterate the fact that Collection 2 figures contained softgoods and lots of articulation. Antilles and Zett (as pictured) both seem to fall short of the collection 2 standard.

Perhaps it is part wishful thinking on my part, but I hope that these two figures show up in a state that is more befitting ROTS Collection 2 than say POTF2 from 1997.

Revenge of the Sith / Re: What figures are hard to find now?
« on: June 2, 2005, 06:58 PM »
For me it's:

1) AT-TE Gunner
2) Red Royal Guard
3) Darth Vader
4) General Grievous (#9)
5) Blue Senate Guard

All of the others I can find, even it takes some heavy-duty searching.

I guess I could include the original version of Anakin (#2) in this list too - all I see now are the version that comes with Dooku's lightsaber instead of the Vader one.

Also for some of the other figures it just depends on how picky you want to be about packaging. The TRU near where I work has a lot of #1 - #32 (minus the figures I mention above that fall in this range) that all look like they've been through a war! Since the TRU display came down and they were using the "destroy our product in bins" approach, most of the stuff on the pegs now isn't worth squat (IMHO).

Clone Commanders and Clone Pilots are starting to sit (the latter because the Gunship and ARC-170 still haven't shown up in numbers enough for people to buy more than one), and the AT-TE Gunner pops up once in a blue moon, but if it's a Clone and it doesn't have a jet pack, it disappears before you can say "Genetic Copy of Jango Fett."

In this area even the Deluxe Clone w/Jetpack is now impossible to find. Sure it was easy when the Wave 2 Deluxe figures were hitting en masse, but now good luck getting one. Practically that entire Deluxe Wave 2 is gone already. Stupid Jedi Jump Obi-Wan is still clogging the pegs, but the fact that (a) the Vulture droid had variants, (b) Vader on Operating Table and Clone w/Jetpack are in high demand and (c) Yoda on Cancell is now also being shipped in the Wave 3 case - the only non Wave 1 Deluxe figure I can find w/o any trouble is the Yoda. Even the Wave 3 shipped Vader on Operating Table flys out of the store.

So here's my biggest complaint about case assortments so far... the Deluxe line should have been four waves of three, not three waves of four. Especially if you're going to have the cases fit only six figures. Better yet, ship the cases so they fit eight figures and re-ship two figures from the previous wave. So for example:

Wave 1
2x Quick Change Anakin/Vader
2x Quick Change Palpatine/Sidious
2x Deluxe General Grievous
2x Lousy Jumping Obi-Wan

Wave 2
1x Deluxe Grievous
1x Quick Change Anakin/Vader
2x Vader on Operating Table
2x Yoda on Can-Cell
2x Clone w/JetPack

Wave 3
1x Vader on Operating Table
1x Clone w/JetPack
2x Vulture Droid
2x Spider Droid
2x Stass Allie w/BARC Speeder

Wave 4
1x Vulture Droid
1x Stass Allie w/Barc Speeder
2x Clonetrooper 3-pack (all white)
2x Clonetrooper 3-pack (w/unit markings)
2x Crab Droid

Also if they could have made it so Waves 1 & 2 shipped simultaneously and Waves 3 & 4 shipped simultaneously they could have ensured that NONE of them were really peg warmers. Perhaps I'm crazy but case assortments like the ones I listed above would actually make it EASY to find the entire Deluxe Assortment AND reduce the number of eventual peg warmers.

Don't even get me started on the basic figure assortments, they are just bass-ackwards. Why SO MANY older figures are being re-assorted when the new figures first come out is anyone's guess. Hasbro instead of having the single case shipping at any one time mentality they should have two cases shipping - the "new figures" wave and the "Catch-up, replenishment wave".

When they launched the line instead of 1-12 and 13-24 being 1 per case, it should have been 2x of each figure and split the cases up. The Blue/Red Guard should have been split into two separate figures as well.

After that, since the pace has been what it is, ship the next six figures from both Collection 1 and 2 at two per case so that would bring us up to 36 figures. At the same time you're shipping what would be my Wave 3s, this would be the time to ship "catch-up" cases of 1-12 and 13-24 at one per case and with case product levels of 1/3 to 1/4 the number of "wave 3" cases you're shipping. Then when you have the next six figures (the wave 4s) from both collections shipping, have a mix of the first 18 figures from each collection in the case, packed 1-per focusing on the core characters from 1-12 or 13-24 and then 1 each of the follow-on six figures.

Keep continuing the method of large production new figure cases, smaller product "catch up" cases and we would be at 48 figures released so far, all with excellent and sensible distribution.

The fact that you're also offering "catch up" cases allows you to offer different mixes, army-builder heavy mixes, mixes that make up for the "hey we had no idea that figure would be in so much demand" foul-ups, etc...

Hasbro would never do it 'cause it just makes sense, but in the future, I do not see the line surviving unless they start making cases of 100% new 2 per case figures so that online retailers can start offering cases (and half cases) on a subscription-type basis so all collectors can remain "caught up" on their complete collections. Sure this would mean the collectors who "pick and choose" which figures they want to buy would be a bit screwed, but with the case assortments now, they're getting screwed too - at least help the completist collector who wants one or more of each figure - in the long run that collector will be buying the most product.

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