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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: The Prequels that could have been
« on: June 1, 2005, 03:42 PM »
I don't know Darabont, but Kasdan would've likely been able to flesh out the basic-story, thin that is, which is now both basis and end-story of the prequels.

I'm sure he would also take the first drafts into account and use elements from that as well.

ROTS to me seems like some huge fire-cracker that in the end only goes fizzle-pop. It started out so great, that whole Palps-rescue bit had humour like the OT, action like the OT and the Dooku fight and when Anakin killed him was better than the emotion that the final duel delivered.

I am convinced Lucas is a great, very great visionary, but he is a lousy story teller. He has ideas, a vision, but he can't turn that into a coherent interesting story.

And because no-one had the guts to tell Lucas so during the PT, he obviously, and given the succes of TPM, considered his stories to be excellent.

Yes, he dropped Jar Jar due to popular request, but apart from that he rambled on, tossing in subplots that didn't really matter.

Anyway, it is a missed opportunity and in itself, indicative that Lucas didn't fully believe he could write it addequately himself.

But alas, what could've been.

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The Wookiee Arcade / Re: Episode III ~ The Video Game
« on: May 31, 2005, 04:07 PM »
I have it now for 2 days, and it is a rather nice game, but battling Dooku, Grievous and Windu made me freak out whenever you knock them down to an empty lifebar or almost empty, they seem to find new vigor and come at you more powerful than the whole fight before. Insane.

Anyway, I must say that seeing Anakin wipe out the Jedi as it happens in the game should've been in the movie. It is powerful, what the Jedi say, what Anakin says. That was sorely missing in the movie. Taunting Cin was good as well. When I beat Windu, I thought... neh, bit too easy.

I did find a way to score mucho Masterful kills. In the JediTemple, the section in the hangar, waves of Jedi come at you, and you quickly build up experience, hacking away in short time to Masterful kills. The meter empties than, but if you just continue on doing it, you reap a lot of much needed masterful kills.

I'm now at the point on Mustafar where you battle those Neimodian guards, been there just once so far.

A point I really don't like about it, is when you get clobbered, you really get clobbered. In the duels, it's almost as if your whole controller switches of. Jumping away doesn't work, force-push, nada...

Also, all those combo's, you never know if they work or not.

Ah well, it's a fairly nice game, and it does keep you coming back to further travel down the path, so that's good.

I hope the Obi-Wan fight is good, and that I'm not crap at it. I rarely play these kind of games, I prefer RTS and FPS.

BTW, I didn't have any of the huge sabres in the library and I have the XBox version.

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The Wookiee Arcade / Re: Star Wars Strategy Game Coming
« on: May 30, 2005, 07:48 AM »
rather than thinking it's just another page/dispute in the EU as a whole...

As far as AT-AT's go, EU's claiming they were in the Clone Wars, just a slightly different design...  from what I recall anyway.  I know I saw them in some of the holo-report things in the FC mag, and some other things.  It's design is actually the final conceptual sketches of the AT-AT before the production look was finalized.  Very close to it, just slight differences...  more boxy.  Guess that's AT-AT1.0 and ESB one is AT-AT2.0 or whatever.

I have to kind of eat my words on this one.  I just realized that At-Ats made their first appearence in the Dark Horse "Star Wars"  Clone Wars comics, around issue 54.  Sorry

I'm pretty sure their first appearance was in a movie called "The Empire Strikes Back". ;D

But if you mean first appearance in SW-history, than... yeah.

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TV-9D9 / Re: TV series predictions (and wishes)
« on: May 25, 2005, 01:16 PM »
In response to Herbert's "the Empire isn't that bad" thread...

Having now seen all of the prequels, the worst thing the Empire did (before Alderaan) was destroy democracy.  To us, as Americans, that's reason enough to hate them.

Myeah... what is democracy...

It's not the best thing around, you know. The way the old Republic became corrupt shows that.

And uhm... you being Americans, that's supposed to impress me? You're the UBER-democrats of the world or something?

Anyway, I see the destruction of Alderaan on the scale of the Galactic civil war as being equal to bombings of Cologne, Dresden and such.

Remember, take the right POV, the Empire IS the law and they hunt down and fight against terrorists. Now, you being American, you should be able to understand that, don't you?

As a comparison, American GI's murdered villages in Vietnam, does that make your country purely evil?

During WW-2, many cities full of civilians were bombed, does that make the Allies evil?

No.

So, coming back to "The Empire isn't that bad"... well, not as far as we've been shown.

There's none of this alien-phobic behaviour, as Palpatine has several non-humans as aides in the PT, we've not seen any location that is truly clearly being opressed. That is all built within EU stories and such.

Truly evil would be if it were completely like the Nazis, who presecuted whole inocent groups, who had programs set for the extermination of handicapped people and such.

That is evil.


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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: The Slaughter of the Padawans
« on: May 25, 2005, 03:15 AM »
Couldn't care less...

All of the Jedi never connected with me, apart from Obi-Wan.

Showing Vader being evil by letting him kill defenseless kids, okay.

Showing Vader being a powerfull Sith by letting him kill defenseles kids, bad.

It makes Vader a wimp, only brave enough to go after little ones, and leaving the full Jedi Masters to be exterminated by others.

THAT IS NOT DARTH VADER! >:(

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TV-9D9 / Re: TV series predictions (and wishes)
« on: May 25, 2005, 03:05 AM »
I personally would favour a story in which we DO get to see Darth Vader as the real scourge of the Jedi. In ROTS he just whacked some kids, no biggy, kinda cowardlike, don't you think.

Anyway, I'm very glad it is going to be between ROTS and ANH since that is the only story that truly matters for SW. Any other is just EU and isn't truly SW.

I believe that we can expect Boba Fett and others to pop in from time to time, to further cement that bridge between PT and OT, perhaps then we get some more Wookiee scenes, perhaps we get to go down with some Bounty-Hunters as well, immersing ourselves in that brimming cup of SW-society that was so well made in ANH.

On the other hand, more Empire, more showing WHY the Rebellion exists in the first place.

So far, the PT hasn't shown us an Empire that is truly evil. Palpatine is a Sith, so he's a sworn enemy of the Jedi, he instigated a way, but that war was rather clean, just combat between combatants, we never saw any collateral damage, small or large scale.

I really really would like to see Palpatine's new order being executed throughout the galaxy.

Also, show us the development of ROTS machinery into that of the OT. Show how those RSD become ISD, V-Wings and JSF-2 turning into all types of Tie, how the ARC develops into the X-Wing and other S-foil equiped craft.

Because, with 6 movies, I still have that "What is so ******* bad about the Empire" sensation. Yes, the single act of utter cruelty is the destruction of Alderaan, apart from that, aren't the Empire just hunting down Terrorists (Rebels)?

On Tatooine, we see that there are Stormtroopers, but that could've been just the party send down from the SD.

On Endor, Ewoks still roam freely through the forest, they're not being hunt down, despite the planet being a key-part of the grand plan.

On Cloud City, Lando says the Empire has taken control of Cloud City, but that could just be to create chaos.

Thinking about that, the fact chaos erupts after Lando says it, seems to indicate fear for the Empire, but still.... only implied.

As a matter of fact, Lando is the only one who actually gives some sense of the Empire being oppressive, yet Cloud City is being tolerated by the Empire, so they're not THAT oppressive.

Puzzling.

Anyway, regarding the TV-series, they do need to show a combination of things, adhering to what SW is about, because focusing on one aspect is too little to make for a good series. Too little to tell.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: RIP :(
« on: May 24, 2005, 01:02 PM »
Isn't Sifo Dyas that ice-cream maker guy in Cloud City?

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: the Jedi Prophecy
« on: May 24, 2005, 12:59 PM »
Oh dear god.  Sigh.



So? Your point being?

Feeling high and mighty? Condescending about one's opinion and take on the matter?

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 23, 2005, 12:55 PM »
I get that RS sensation where anyone who isn't raving about ROTS is dealt with as an outcast. ::)

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People saying they cry during ROTS.... oh man...

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Can Sith Beat Titanic?
« on: May 22, 2005, 11:56 AM »
One word: no.

Titanic had a much broader interest than ROTS has worldwide. It was a one of, special movie about a very tragic moment in real history, people wanted to see that.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 11:50 AM »
I've read people being moved and some even being brought to tears, but the whole Aayla Secura killing-scene actualy made me laugh out.

It is so over the top, those Clonetroopers blasting away, just to make sure she's dead.

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: the Jedi Prophecy
« on: May 22, 2005, 11:44 AM »
I think that Anakin does bring about balance to the force.  He starts out as a Jedi, Becomes Vader and ultimately destroy's the Emperor who was bringing the force out of balance.

I think Luke was the catalyst that made it happen though.

Yes, that is it!  It's simple, I don't know why some people have a hard time understanding this. 

Heh, it's kind of the whole point of the film-redemption.  I mean some DIE-HARD fans don't even get this....sheesh.

Always nice to act that you know it all, and others don't, innit?

All I can say is, big loads of BS!

All that we now think happens in the OT, in light of things that happen in the PT, is complete and utter crap.

Luke is not a catalyst for Vader to fullfill the prophecy in ROTJ, simply because there is no prohecy in the OT.

In the OT, Luke is the one that is being trained to become the new Jedi, to become the one to challenge Vader, to stop Vader.

In TESB, Yoda and Obi-Wan don't want Luke to go of and save his friends, because he isn't ready to kill Vader, not defeat him, but actually KILL Vader. Where's your prophecy there?

ROTJ wasn't about a true return of the Jedi order, it was about Luke becoming a Jedi, and thusly, be the first new Jedi.

Vader didn't fulfill any prophecy when he dropped the Emperor down the shaft, he wrenched himself free from the Dark Side.

There was nothing about a prophecy in the OT, which is why the OT is so much simpler. It was simply the good guys versus the bad guys. Luke needed to confront Vader, to stop him, to finish him off.

When Luke said he couldn't kill his own father, Obi-Wan thought all hope for a victory over the Empire was lost. Little did he know Vader would kill the Emperor.

But the PT has introduced lots of things that simply don't work with the OT. Be it concepts, be it plotpoints (ergo plotholes) but the 2 stories don't interconnect.

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Gary Kurtz, plain and simple.

Everyone can write and analize why the PT is substandard from now until the end of time, but the true difference between the OT and PT is all Gary Kutz.

Gary Kutz knows how to make what is inside George Lucas's head work, and if Lucas didn't let him go for pushing Lucas into excellence, ROTJ and the PT would be every bit as good as ANH and ESB.

Turn that around, and you can say Rick McCallum is one of the greatest causes for the PT to suck big time, also the SE's and DVD-versions.

That man wants us to believe he is the number 1 SW-fan, that he is down with all that is SW. That he is deeply rooted into SW/lore and history.

Shut the **** up with your fat-ass, Rick.

All he did, is let Lucas go wild with his ideas, and never ever did anyone on a substantial issue object. YEah, details, but not the bigger picture.

Didn't Kershner bitch with Lucas about scenes, didn't Kershner threaten to quit if Lucas held on to his opinion on certain scenes? Didn't Lucas back down and hence, TESB became what it is?

Now, we have Lucas unleashed, and see how the PT turns out to be, what he did to the OT and what he undoubtedly will do in the future to the PT.

What will happen with the TV-series? How God-awful can that become?

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The Prequel Trilogy / Re: Post your ROTS reviews and thoughts!
« on: May 22, 2005, 06:46 AM »
As far as Leia remembering her mother, she just remembers images of her.  If you recall, in ESB, she knows at the end to go back to Bespin to pick up Luke off of the Cloud City weather vane, and at the end of Jedi, she has a feeling that Luke wasn't on the Death Star when it blew up.  Essentially, she is strong in the Force, but doesn't have it honed by any means.   She probably got a sense of her birth mother in this way as well.   I suppse the same is true of Luke when he first gets to Degobah, he says there is something familliar about "this place."  He is probably just sensing Yoda, since Yoda was present for the birth.



Sorry, but that is really really grapsing for straws.

What happens at the end of TESB is Luke sending out a message to Leia via the Force, Leia is not receiving that due to her alleged Force-abilities. She was not scripted in TESB to be Luke's sister, she didn't have any link to any Force-abilities whatsoever in TESB.

Her sensing Luke at the end of ROTJ is there to amplify her being Luke's sister.

And if Leia knows about her mother through the Force, why doesn't the Force let Luke know about his mother? Why didn't he pick up anything at the same time Leia supposedly did?

No, Leia remembering her real mother is just plain impossible. The only explanation can be that Bail tells her a lot about Padmé, trying to make her grow up with the values and ideals that her mother held high, so that she could become a great ally for the Rebellion through political means.

Luke, on the other hand, appears to have been tuck away to be trained as the warrior Jedi, the one to directly challenge the Sith.

Off course, all this is due to GL's decision to wrap it all up in ROTJ leaving some awkward plotholes behind.

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