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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2006, 09:08 PM »
I'm pretty disgusted with the attitudes in this thread but I'll explain to the best of my ability. I need to talk with Dave further because there are some things that should not have happened that did. For the record, Dave was on site at Toy Fair. I'm leaving it at that until I can take care of the issue as best as possible. When I have a concise answer, I'll post it.

But I do want to say this: I am sickened by the few people who are bitching, moaning, and complaining here. This site is 100% free to you. EVERYTHING we do here is because of our love and devotion to you and the hobby. I have 3 jobs. This is not one of them. This is something I do on the side. The same goes for everyone else who works here. I don't want you here if you are going to have that kind of attitude. I will go so far as to say you are not welcome here if you can not accept the fact that Toy Fair coverage didn't go through. Until you start paying me and everyone else on my staff here a weekly salary and in addition, pay all of our plane fares, food, and hotel expenses do me a favor and shut the **** up. If you don't like that- leave. Now.

This is a hobby and I am supposed to have fun here. You are supposed to have fun here. If you are not having fun here, I'm sorry. Find somewhere else to go. I will continue having fun here and we all will continue to do our best here.

Another note that needs to be made is for the people criticizing Jason; you are being ignorant because every last word in his post is only the truth. If you only knew exactly what it takes to run a site... Wow. And then to tell him he is wrong. What audacity. I think for the sake of enjoyment that we might have to start asking people to leave based on their personality and attitude. It comes down to that... if we are going to keep the quality; we have to pick and choose.

Was this a big screw-up? It sure as hell was and as I said before, I will come back and give the full story when I know it. But believe me, I have never been more disappointed in our readers and fan base than I am today.
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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2006, 09:12 PM »
here here Chris!
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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2006, 09:50 PM »
Wow.  You tell 'em admin guy.  It's tough running a website.  I think we all need to take a deep breath and realize how awful we all have been.  I feel horrible.......so ashamed.
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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2006, 10:00 PM »
Wow.† You tell 'em admin guy.† It's tough running a website.† I think we all need to take a deep breath and realize how awful we all have been.† I feel horrible.......so ashamed.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2006, 10:17 PM »
Well said by Chris, and it's refreshing to see a site admin that will take such a stance publically.

Mojo, if you're joking, it doesn't read that way, and if you're being sarcastic, then maybe you should pay attention to a certain part of Chris' post. ;)

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2006, 10:29 PM »
Wow I sure missed a lot today... :-\

Jesse I'd really hate to see you leave, you have been such a great staffer and I've really enjoyed chatting with you. †:(

I'm inclined to agree with Jason, Jesse, and Chris. I can't really add much since they've all summed it up pretty good, but I've seen how hard all these guys work. Jason and all the FFURG crew spent almost their entire time at C3 working at their booth. The JD crew was busy giving us great C3 coverage. I know the guys would have loved to give us their typical fantastic coverage but, **** HAPPENS. I sure missed the coverage but I don't in anyway blame the JD staff for the lack of it, it was all a big fluke. Sure I missed the coverage, but it isn't the end of the world, and I don't think anything less of this sute or anyone who runs it because of the lack of coverage. God knows I couldn't have afforded to go to Toy Fair.
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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2006, 10:41 PM »
Well said Chris -- thank you for stepping in.  I would really hate to see Jesse leave over this.  He would be sorely missed.  :'(  I have to say that I was quite taken aback by the "us vs. them" attitude that some of our members took.  I just wanted to say thanks to that Admins for all of their hard work and effort that they put into to JD.  We need to remember that this is a fan based site.
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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2006, 10:51 PM »
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Was this a big screw-up? It sure as hell was and as I said before, I will come back and give the full story when I know it. But believe me, I have never been more disappointed in our readers and fan base than I am today.

It seems like youíre more upset about the negative response youíve gotten here, than you are in the reason for the response itself.  Thatís a shame.

I can only speak for myself, but if Iím coming off as ďbitching, moaning, and complaining,Ē well, then so be it.  Iím disappointed that this is the second time in three years that this has happened.  I like this site, I like it a lot, and I think itís pretty much the best SW-based forum out there.  Thatís why I think it absolutely sucks when other sites can get their coverage up, and JD canít.  I know that this site is better than that. 

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I don't want you here if you are going to have that kind of attitude. I will go so far as to say you are not welcome here if you can not accept the fact that Toy Fair coverage didn't go through.

Iím not leaving just because you canít handle a little bit of criticism.  If you want to ban me, because you donít like what Iíve got to say--hey, itís your site, go right on ahead.  It still wonít change the fact that the site **** the bed on Toy Fair this year.

I really hope that this isnít turning into a Rebelscum situation, where weíre free to say whatever we want around here, just as long as it isnít anything remotely critical of the site itself.  Iím not bitching just to hear myself bitchóIím bitching because Iím genuinely disappointed in how things have turned out around here in the past few days.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2006, 11:00 PM »
V, I figured you of all people wouldn't be riding Chris and the Staffs collective ass on this one.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2006, 11:28 PM »
I dont' think the Coz is riding anyone's asses - he's said several times that his motive here is that he really likes this site and wants it to succeed.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2006, 11:42 PM »
V, I figured you of all people wouldn't be riding Chris and the Staffs collective ass on this one.

Please elaborate.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2006, 11:42 PM »
It's all valid criticism and moving forward we'll change how we cover upcoming events. People have been able to articulate their disappointment and that's infinitely more constructive than "where's your coverage, you guys suck" messages, so it's all appreciated. Chalk this up as an unfortunate learning experience.

And I don't really like the notion of having a collective ass...

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2006, 11:43 PM »
My suggestion: LET IT GO. It's just a freaking toy convention. Yes, it sucks that JD couldn't cover it in their own unique way, but there will be other conventions. Also, if you want the coverage, just go to another site and get it. To be honest, I completely forgot about JD's coverage until it was mentioned by DeanPaul. I just clicked a link provided by a forum member in one of the threads, looked at pics, and posted my opinion. No different than if I had viewed the pics at JD.

To quote everyone's favorite webmaster, "Get a life and move along."

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2006, 12:27 AM »
V, I figured you of all people wouldn't be riding Chris and the Staffs collective ass on this one.

Please elaborate.

Your generaly layed back and sarcastic. Not serious and on Chris and staff. Thats why I'm suprised.

And Jared, if it's any consolation, it's a nice collective ass.

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Re: Rebelscum
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2006, 12:53 AM »
I think certain people should just STFU until we actually know what happened. Most of us (myself included) have no idea what really went down, and without facts on the table, it's just speculation and poo-flinging.

Get some perspective. It would have been nice to get some of those Q&A questions answered, but to be perfectly blunt (and no disrespect intended to Dave and whoever else was going to cover TF), photos and most of the highlights have been covered elsewhere anyway.

And if I may briefly indulge in pontificating from the "fansite admin" high-horse ... this is a volunteer hobby, and running a site is more work than it may at first appear, which is why I'm willing to cut the guys a good deal of slack. Despite the terminology of "staff" who "work" at this or that site, 99% of fansite people are doing it for free in our sparetime, which is limited to one degree or another. When push comes to shove, reality trumps Star Wars. That's why sites go through ebbs and flows, long fallow periods, or even die out, as their staff goes through other things in real life.


P.S.: Good to see Jesse came back to his senses and his profile reads "Staff Member" again. :)
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