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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2006, 01:17 AM »
Call me crazy, but I don't seem to recall R2's third leg being as big as his head, much less Luke's acrobatic feat- and R2's non-melting feat- of firing the lightsaber ignited...



I mean, that just can't turn out in a non-messy fashion. Speaking of which, was R2 rolled in black pepper prior to the skiff scene?...

Okay, this figure is cool in concept, and it's an action feature I can actually appreciate, but they could've made it so, so much better by having R2 fire a handle instead of a whole ignited saber, with a slightly-deformed blade at that. This would've let R2 be sculpted in something resembling a normal fashion, and it'd give you a handle to play with, and it would be scene-accurate... the only complaint would be that you'd lose it, but as long as the firing mechanism was pretty weak and you were relatively careful it'd be fine. Better than "whoops I threw my saber across the room" Mace Windu, at any rate.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2006, 08:37 AM »
anything with less than super articulation is crap in my book! ;D

If it isn't SA and OT then it is Crap in my book...

I think the crap scale depends on someones interest/anticipation of a certain character...

I'll go ahead and say that EVERY Rebel Trooper and Imperial Trooper is crap except VOTC2 BIker Scout and VOTC Stormie, and Saga 2 At At driver.

But the biggest disappointment for me so far has been:



I have a bigger list I'll post more later...but right now I am really hating on this fig too:


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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2006, 10:23 AM »
I have to say that the Han was a big letdown b/c he had a lot of potential.  The accessories and the sculpt & detail of the gear were great but at the end he was just a possability impared plastic doink.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2006, 05:38 PM »
All of POTF2 is terrible.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2006, 09:03 PM »
'cept for the removable helmet Vader...he's pretty cool...
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2006, 10:18 PM »
All of POTF2 is terrible.

We did get some cool aliens out of it.  Even with the lack of articulation some aliens have good scultps.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2006, 11:15 PM »
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We did get some cool aliens out of it.  Even with the lack of articulation some aliens have good scultps.
Admiral Ackbar, Nien Nunb (although his vest kinda sucked), and Walrusman come to mind. Mon Mothma wasn't bad either, and she's human...

I can't really hate POTF2 at large because some of it was pretty decent when it was new, and the articulation was enough to make the figures playable and able to pull off a few different poses... I just hate certain horrible bits of sculpting, namely the super-mega-hyper-steroid buffness, and the occasional horrific action features like R5-D4 had.

The suckiness of a figure is in the eye of a beholder; I loved Buff Luke when I first got him, having never owned a Star Wars figure before. But the bottom-line suckiness, I think, is if it really failed to be what it could've been for the standards at the time. The Rebel Fleet Trooper didn't need to be Mr. Universe, R5 didn't need to expode and fire a titan missle from his core, Saga Deluxe Anakin with sliced Geonosian didn't need to exist, VOTC C3PO didn't need to be worse than several previous C3POs, and so on.

To continue the thread though, here's a picture of everybody's favorite $10 pal, with his horrible sculpt and articulation style straight from 1977:

And what's funny is, everybody's pal Rebelscum describes him as such: "This new version of C-3PO may not look like much, but it's got it where it counts. With improved details than any other version, this figure looks good translating languages, taking an oil bath, and even falling off a cliff! "

"Improved details than any other version", huh? Maybe they meant the paint or something? ??? In fact, I could swear that I read this description once and they uttered the phrase "The Ultimate version of C3PO," but I either imagined that or someone sensibly removed it.

But falling off a cliff is about what he deserves ;)

Oh, and speaking of Saga Deluxe/Ultra figures, here's another I love: he's grinning because he just learned the hadoken and he's going surfing. He's one bad mutha!
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2006, 12:10 AM »


This is the worst IMO.  Mainly because they didn't release a Mace for AOTC in the first few waves and then they showed this piece of **** figure and it was supposed to appease the fans wanting a new Mace.

Looking back, a lot of Saga1 is awful crap.



This figure still pisses me off because looking at it reminds me of all of the dolts at the BHC/RS/CSW forums of the time who loved the vintage nod to the retractable lightsaber.  That thing is one of the worst they have made...

The sad thing is...once they make a Piece of **** figure like this, they waste spots/tooling on something good most people would buy anyway

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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2006, 09:32 AM »
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the entire H&V line. I'm not saying the individual figures are horrible, but the concept in general is annoying. Over 20 of last years figures in one year?
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2006, 11:58 AM »
Agreed.  The whole idea chaps my ... :-X

Still I was able to score a black clone pilot, my only one, so I am happy.  Maybe I will get a few shocktroopers that won't cost 19.99 (with 2 unwanted figs).

I thought these would peg warm but I barely see them on the pegs.  Obvioulsy jedi crap kick kenobi and anakin are always hanging out with cannon yoda.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2006, 07:35 PM »
It seems almost all past Mace figures have ended up being crap. This is why we need a new one so badly!!
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #41 on: May 18, 2006, 01:33 AM »
Saga 2002 + is almost entirely a letdown for me...  That was my lowest point in collecting ever.  Pre-posed figures, lacking articulation, pissy sculpts galore, action features a-plenty.

There's a lot to hate about that era...  If I had to label a worst it would be the screaming Mace that OCB posted.  Utter bull**** figure.

POTF2 I don't believe sucked overall.  It sucks more by comparison to today's standards, but still like was noted there's a lot of winners in there too.  The Cantina 3-pack is POTF2, the Pilots 3-pack is POTF2, etc... 

There's a LOT of letdowns too in that era though, no doubt.  And by today's standards many of those aliens aren't as spiffy as they could be.  Nothing is really as good as it could be from that era really.  I'd take most of it resculpted, but some of it I'd be happy with as it is too...  happy enough anyway.

This year's TSC actually has me let down a good bit though...  I'm not to Saga 2002+ levels yet for my disappointment, but I'm not happy that figures went up in price a good bit, distribution is utter bull**** this year, and quality in 2006 isn't where it was in 2005...  The 2005 figures had a lot to like, especially Collection 2 Jedi and whatnot, and now here we are at 2006 and figures just lack the same level of articulation, and other little cutbacks.  If we were paying $5 or $6 a figure (at most) I'd not feel as strongly, but at $7 and $8 a figure, it'd be nice if we could get past 1983 articulation on the legs there at least ya know?  No huge deal, just something to make these more, I dunno, toys than statues.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2006, 01:52 AM »
I agree, most of the SAGA Stuff royally sucked... remember that awful Qui Gon we got?  And the Jedi Duel Luke?  Geeze!  What a terrible group of figures... even the Clones at that time sucked. 

Here are some of the worst ones I can remember... damn pieces of crap.



















I was SO mad at the time when those were the only clones available...

Here is the whole SAGA 2002-2004 list -

2002 FIGURES
  02-01: Anakin Skywalker (Outland Peasant Disguise)
  02-02: Padmé Amidala (Arena Escape)
  02-03: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Coruscant Chase)
  02-04: C-3PO (Protocol Droid)
  02-05: Kit Fisto (Jedi Master) 
  02-06: Super Battle Droid
  02-07: Boba Fett (Kamino Escape)
  02-08: Tusken Raider (Female with child)
  02-09: Captain Typho (Padmé's Head of Security)
  02-10: Shaak Ti (Jedi Master)
  02-11: Battle Droid (Arena Battle)
  02-12: Plo Koon (Arena Battle)
  02-13: Jango Fett (Kamino Escape)
  02-14: R2-D2 (Coruscant Sentry)
  02-15: Geonosian Warrior
  02-16: Dexter Jettster (Coruscant Informant)
  02-17: Clone Trooper 
  02-18: Zam Wesell (Bounty Hunter) 
  02-19: Royal Guard (Coruscant Security)
  02-20: Saesee Tiin (Jedi Master)
  02-21: Nikto (Jedi Knight)
  02-22: Anakin Skywalker (Hanger Duel)
  02-23: Yoda (Jedi Master)
  02-24: Jar Jar Binks (Gungan Senator)
  02-25: Taun We (Kamino Cloner)
  02-26: Luminara Unduli (Jedi Master)
  02-27: Count Dooku (Dark Lord)
  02-28: Mace Windu (Geonosian Rescue)
  02-29: Luke Skywalker (Bespin Duel)
  02-30: Darth Vader (Bespin Duel)
  02-31: Jango Fett (Final Battle)
  02-32: Qui-Gon Jinn (Naboo Battle)
  02-33: Endor Soldier
  02-34: Massif (With Geonosian Warrior) 
  02-35: Orn Free Taa (Senator)
  02-36: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Jedi Starfighter Pilot)
  02-37: Han Solo (Endor Bunker)
  02-38: Chewbacca (Cloud City Capture)
  02-39: Supreme Chancellor Palpatine
  02-40: Djas Puhr (Alien Bounty Hunter)
  02-41: Padmé Amidala (Coruscant Attack)
  02-42: Darth Maul (Sith Training)
  02-43: Anakin Skywalker (Tatooine Attack)
  02-44: Ki-Adi-Mundi (Jedi Master) 
  02-45: Ephant Mon (Jabba's Head of Securoty) Fan's Choice Figure #3
  02-46: Teemto Pagalies (Pod Racer)
  02-47: Jango Fett (Slave 1 Pilot)
  02-48: Destroyer Droid (Geonosis Battle)
  02-49: Clone Trooper (Republic Gunship Pilot)
  02-50: Watto (Mos Espa Junk Dealer)
  02-51: Lott Dod (Neimoidian Senator) 
  02-52: Tusken Raider (with Massif)
  02-53: Yoda (Jedi High Council)
  02-54: Rebel Trooper (Tantive IV Defender)
  02-55: Imperial Officer
  02-56: Eeth Koth (Jedi Master)
  02-57: Teebo
 
2003 FIGURES
  03-01: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Acklay Battle)
  03-02: Mace Windu (Arena Confrontation)
  03-03: Darth Tyranus (Geonosian Escape)
  03-04: Padmé Amidala (Droid Factory Chase)
  03-05: SP-4 & JN-66 (Library Droids)
  03-06: Tusken Raider (Tatooine Camp Ambush)
  03-07: Anakin Skywalker (Secret Ceremony)
  03-08: Boba Fett (The Pit of Carkoon)
  03-09: R2-D2 (Droid Factory)
  03-10: Lama Su (With Clone Child)
  03-11: Aayla Secura (Jedi Knight)
  03-12: Barris Offee (Luminara Unduli's Padawan)
  03-13: Han Solo (Hoth Rescue)
  03-14: Chewbacca (Mynock Hunt)
  03-15: Yoda & Chian (Padawan Lightsaber Training)
  03-16: Ashla & Jempa (Jedi Padawans)
  03-17: Luke Skywalker (Throne Room Duel)
  03-18: Darth Vader (Throne Room Duel)
  03-19: Snowtrooper (The Battle of Hoth) 
  03-20: Jango Fett (Kamino Escape)
  03-21: C-3PO (Tatooine Ambush)
  03-22: Padmé Amidala (Secret Ceremony)
  03-23: Wat Tambor (Geonosis War Room)
  03-24: Coleman Trebor (Battle of Geonosis)
  03-25: Darth Maul (Theed Hangar Duel)
  03-26: Princess Leia Organa (Imperial Captive)
  03-27: Han Solo (Flight to Alderaan)
  03-28: WA-7 (Dexter's Diner)
  03-29: Lt. Dannl Faytonni (Coruscant Outlander Club)
  03-30: The Emperor (Throne Room)
  03-31: Luke Skywalker (Tatooine Encounter)
  03-32: Darth Vader (Death Star Clash)
  03-33: Bail Organa (Alderaan Senator)
  03-34: McQuarrie Concept Stormtrooper (Fan's Choice Figure #4)
  03-35: Imperial Dignitary Janus Greejatus (Death Star Procession)
  03-36: Padmé Amidala (Lars' Homestead)
  03-37: Achk Med-Beq (Coruscant Outlander Club)
  03-38: Ayy Vida (Outlander Nightclub Patron)
  03-39: Obi-Wan Kenobi (Outlander Nightclub Encounter)
  03-40: Elan Sleazebaggano (Outlander Nightclub Encounter)
  03-41: Imperial Dignitary Kren Blista-Vinee (Death Star Procession)
2003 numbering continues in the Clone Wars line
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 1 - Hoth
  04-01: Hoth Trooper (Hoth Evacuation)
 
  04-02: R-3PO (Hoth Evacuation)
 
  04-03: Luke Skywalker (Hoth Attack)
 
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 2 - Tatooine
  04-04: Luke Skywalker (Jabba's Palace)
 
  04-05: R2-D2 (Jabba's Sail Barge)
 
  04-06: R1-G4 (Tatooine Transaction)
 
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 3 - Jabba's Palace
  04-07: Lando Calrissian (Jabba's Sail Barge)
 
  04-08: Rappertunie (Jabba's Palace)
 
  04-09: J'Quille (Jabba's Sail Barge)
 
  04-10: Tanus Spijek (Jabba's Sail Barge)
 
  04-11: Holographic Luke Skywalker (Jabba's Palace)
 
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 4 - Battle of Yavin
  04-12: General Jan Dodonna (Battle of Yavin)
 
  04-13: Dutch Vander: Gold Leader (Battle of Yavin)
 
  04-14: TIE Fighter Pilot (Battle of Yavin)
 
  04-15: Captain Antilles (Tantive IV Invasion) Fan's Choice Figure #5
 
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 5 - Star Destroyer
  04-16: Admiral Ozzel
 
  04-17: Dengar (Executor Meeting)
 
  04-18: Bossk (Executor Meeting)
 
 
2004 FIGURES: Wave 6 - Battle of Endor
  04-19: Han Solo (Endor Strike)
 
  04-20: General Madine (Imperial Shuttle Capture)
 
  04-21: Lando Calrissian (Death Star Attack)

 
 
It seemed to me that around figure #38 (Cloud City Chewbacca) that line started picking up in quality.

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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2006, 09:20 PM »
VOTC 3PO in my opinion looked like the best 3PO,would you rather have a buff 3PO than a normal non-buff one?Also the Commtech Stormtrooepr was ok.
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Re: Terrible Previously Released Figures
« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2006, 10:18 PM »
Now here's a hip 'n groovy figure:


Back in the earlier pats of the POTJ line Hasbro seemed to exhibit some pre-Saga behavior with a group of main character figures people wanted, that were all stuck in "hi, I'm running and holding my gun with both hands" poses. POTJ Lando, Bespin Leia, and worst of all this Han all suffered from this condition, but I can forgive the other two figures a lot more easily than this one because they're pretty decent otherwise. But this figure is bad news unless you're a customizer who's going to use the arms and reposition the left hand, or who likes the head despite the Jerry O'Connell likeness, or you just want the gun and the belt. The torso is leaning and the legs are also stuck in action land, and it reminds me oh so much of my Coruscant Chase Obi Wan. I have no clue what I'm going to do with those parts...

But you know what the best part of this guy is? His grip is too small to hold the blaster. Yes, it's true, he can't hold that blaster unless you squish the handle or pry open the hand and slip it in. It looks like the same hand mold as Cantina Han almost, but it seems to be just a little bit smaller and tighter, and this blaster has a bigger handle than Cantina Han's pistol.

Here's another moldy oldie (that's not that old):

I have a little bit of a soft spot for this guy, but I have to admit he sucks. Why is he in this pose? The other POTF2s at the time weren't doing this and so this bout of suckiness can be fully attributed to him. Also, the Torso is typical POTF2 Schwartzineggar fare, which is kind of disappointing to be later in the line as this figure was.


I'm told this was the best Anakin around when it was made, and that's sad. He's almost as bad as Coruscant Chase Obi Wan, and that headsculpt looks like Bruce Campbell in Anakin Skywalker disguise to me. Not good.


Speaking of terrible Anakins, was he auditioning to play a Ferengi?



By not-really-popular demand, here's a 3PO worse than the VOTC. He seems to have fallen into a jelly jar, he's got a weird mark on his chest akin that of John Doe (obscurish, probably soon-to-be-cancelled scifi show), and he's kinda... stumpy. Fortunately he's got a nice little escape pod, but that doesn't really help the figure itself...
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