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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2006, 07:06 PM »
Hi everyone,

I had  a long conversation with Glassman6 this afternoon and between him and I, we worked out a plan of attack for this project. I am going to open a new thread for collecting a list of body types that are most commonly used by you all for custom work. This will be the first step. The list should include the most commonlly used POTF2, POTJ, Episode 1, Saga and OTC peg head bodytypes. We want both male and female types, reguardless if they have been used alot by customizers in the past or not. Good examples would be uniforms, unique body sculpt, favorite costume. The next phase will greatly need your help with. I will need volentiers to send me bodies with out the heads, mostly torsos but whole figure also accepted (for taking example pictures of the head on the body). I asking to barrow them while I am developing this project and you will get them back to you all. I will also need to barrow ball jointed heads from a list I will post here. These will give  me the range of head sizes I will have to keep in mind while sculpting the neck posts. Once I am done, the will be sent back with my thanks. To give you all another example of what I am proposing, I have an Adi Gallia figure on loan from Bossk_in_E3. I did two neck posts, one for Mon Mothma's width, and one for Aayla Secura. I am guessing the diameters between these two neck types should cover the range of female ball joint heads. Here are the pics:



And a Groupe Shot:



Again the success of this project will depend on your support. Go to the "Neck Post Body List" post and enter your requests you can submit as many body types that you would want to see get this treatment. Please, read through the list before posting your request so we do not have duplications. This is not a voting thing. I will post the ball joint head list later today.

Thanks for your help,

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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2006, 09:08 PM »
OK, here is the list  of heads I will need to prep for this project. I will need volentiers to loan me these heads. Once I am finished with them, I will return them to you. From these heads, I can formulate the sizes of neck posts I will need to sculpt for this project. Remember, I only need to barrow them, rest assure that you will get your parts back as soon as I am done with them. Post what heads you can provide so we do not have duplication of heads sent to me. I know this is a lot, but broaken up into small groups will make it easier on all of us. Here is the list:

Princess Leia (Boushh Disguise)
Han Solo (Carbonite)
General Veers
Major Bren Derlin
Sora Bulq
Sun Fac
Lushros Dofine
Clone Commander Cody
Mace Windu (Force Combat!)
Plo Koon (Jedi Master)   
Bail Organa (Republic Senator) 
Padm'e(Republic Senator
Shaak Ti (Jedi Master)
Ki-Adi-Mundi (Jedi Master)
AT-TE Tank Gunner (Clone Army)
Polis Massan (Medic)
Mas Amedda (Republic Senator)
Neimoidian Warrior (Neimoidian Blaster Attack!)
Tarkin (Governor)
Meena Tillis (Republic Senator)
Anakin Skywalker (Battle Damage!)
Captain Antilles (Senate Security)
Utapaun Warrior (Utapaun Security!)
Mustafar Sentry (Spinning Energy Bolt!)
Tion Medon
Stass Allie with BARC Speeder ("Exploding" Action!)

Evolutions
Anakin Skywalker: Anakin (AOTC), Anakin (CW)
  Sith Lords: Darth Maul, Darth Tyranus, Darth Sidious

Battle Packs
  Jedi Vs. Sith (Anakin, Obi-Wan,  Asajj, )

 
Luke Skywalker (Dagobah Training)
Yoda (Dagobah Training)
Pablo-Jill (Geonosis Arena)
Sly Moore (Coruscant Senate)
Queen Amidala (Celebration Ceremony) 
Feltipern Trevagg (Cantina)
Myo (Cantina)
Dannik Jerriko (Cantina Encounter)
Luke Skywalker VOTC
Princess Leia VOTC
Lando Calrissian VOTC
Yoda VOTC
ADMIRAL OZZEL (Executor Assault)
CAPTAIN ANTILLES (Tantive IV Invasion)
LANDO CALRISSIAN (Jabba's Sail Barge)
PADMÉ AMIDALA (Lars' Homestead)
PADMÉ AMIDALA (Secret Ceremony)
AAYLA SECURA (Jedi Knight) / (Battle of Geonosis)
KIT FISTO clone wars
MACE WINDU  General of the Republic Army
ASAJJ VENTRESS Sith Apprentice

 
 Thank you for your help.

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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2006, 10:59 PM »
Holy cow, thats a lot of heads.  I'd be happy to loan several from the list. 

On the neck posts, I think the example looks a little too long for Mon Mothma and your custom alien.

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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2006, 02:19 AM »
Hi Brent,

Yeah, I know it is alot of heads. I REALLY do not have alot of loose figures, especially these. Thanks for pointing out the neck hight with the last two heads. I fixed it by making a third neck post for the Minbari head and lowering Mon Mothma's neck post. As I am doing this, I begin to wonder, would I need to only make one neck for that head or instead do I need to make a neck for each head type? This is why I need the bodies you all will customize and later and I need these heads to fit on these bodies inorder to determin the production proccess.

Thanks for the pointer,

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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2006, 04:34 PM »
 Ill see what I can scrounge up. Do you just need the heads? or the neck posts. Ive got a lot of extra ROTS heads that I can donate.

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Re: Neck Post Conversion Kit
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2006, 05:33 PM »
Hey there Darth_Ennis,

that would be great!!! I really need the head. It would be nice if I had the torso to use, but mostly the heads. What I do is stick the wax clay into the head, and then stick the clay into the donor body neck hole and then start forming the neck. I then pull the head off and work the neck arround the body. Then I replace the head to see the progress. Once I have more donor peg head bodies, I could try the neck posts and see if  the neck post fits and the head is correctly proportiant to the body and so on. I will PM you my address to you can send the heads. Any heads you donate you will get back.  Thanks for the help.

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ball jointing heads
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2006, 12:32 PM »
what piece do you need.is it the piece to hollow out helmets.
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2006, 12:35 PM »
'tis called a dremel. The better customizers probably have more info on it.
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2006, 12:44 PM »
Dremel Has become the word for a rotary tool like kleenex has become the word for tissue.

Any hoo A rotary is kind of like a drill, moves at adjustable speeds with the turn of a knob. This tool has multiple Bits that you can use, IE a drill in multiple sizes, cutting wheels, Grinding bits, and all sorts of stuff.

Depending on how much you have you can get a wireless or a corded, the corded normally have better power, because of a constant supply. I got mine @ big lots for 20 bucks. Not bad, it does not need to be Dremmel brand, although they have cool stuff but so do the others

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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2006, 12:48 PM »
'tis called a dremel. The better customizers probably have more info on it.
i know what it is.i just need the piece.
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2006, 12:55 PM »
'tis called a dremel. The better customizers probably have more info on it.
i know what it is.i just need the piece.

Well since you said in your first post "what piece do you need", I considered it to be a question, therefore I answered your question.
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2006, 12:56 PM »
I recommend a small drill to get the hole going, then switch to a small drum-sander rasp for the bulk of the hollowing.  Finish off with the ball-sander rasp if necessary.  That's what I do.
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2006, 01:20 PM »
'tis called a dremel. The better customizers probably have more info on it.
i know what it is.i just need the piece.

Well since you said in your first post "what piece do you need", I considered it to be a question, therefore I answered your question.
the dril piece
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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2006, 01:29 PM »
For hollowing helmets a combination of the following or what works best for you.

1. standard small bore drill bit
2. Cylindrical grinding stone or sanding bit
3. Cone shaped grinding stone

For converting Peg heads to ball joints.

1. standard small bore drill bit
2. Ball shaped high speed engraving bit 1/8" or larger

For the engraver bit a large on will get it done faster but you can't control the size of the hole as easily.  The 1/8" requires more work to use and paitience but affords more control in size and depth of the socket you are making.

Past threads have more on this subject.

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Re: ball jointing heads
« Reply #44 on: June 2, 2006, 03:05 PM »
I use most the engraving bit that is numbered 192 in the Dremel Online Catalog Here