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Let's discuss the future of the retro-vintage line.
Matt:
From Rebelscum's 6/24/06 411 report:
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3 3/4" Limited Edition Vintage Assortment:
For the third wave of VOTC figures, we can expect much of the same, but as mentioned above, there is no point fixing what isn't broken. The new wave includes:
ANH
Jawa
TESB
Luke Skywalker (Bespin Fatigues)
Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear)
Han Solo (Bespin Outfit)
Bossk
ROTJ
Princess Leia Organa (Endor Battle Gear)
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Something semi-interesting from this week's Q & A:
Is it Hasbro's intention to release all of the vintage Kenner figures in the high end vintage figure series? If so, will we be seeing an "ultimate" version of Leia(Bespin Gown) sometime in the future? (YF, 8/04/06)
Well, that would be nice to have such an end-point in mind. But rather than commit to that as the goal, we'll just have to say "wait and see" and take each wave as it comes. We're focusing on the higher demand figures first.
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I may be reading too far into things, but to me, this almost confirms that re-doing the entire vintage line in this format isn't gonna happen. And the reason is that, if they're going for the "higher demand" figures first (read: main characters, army builders, and iconic aliens), then by the time they get all of those guys out of the way, they're gonna be left with all of the second- and third-tier vintage figures. You know: the Rancor Keepers, the secondary Ewoks, the Nien Nunbs. Mostly all the garbage Jedi figures, basically.
Here's the entire vintage range:
Star Wars
Luke Skywalker (2004 VOTC)
Princess Leia Organa (2004 VOTC)
Artoo-Detoo
Chewbacca (2004 VOTC)
See-Threepio (2004 VOTC)
Darth Vader (2004 VOTC)
Stormtrooper (2004 VOTC)
Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi (2004 VOTC)
Han Solo (2004 VOTC)
Jawa (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
Sand People (2006 VTSC)
Death Squad Commander
Greedo (2006 VTSC)
Hammerhead (2006 Saga)
Snaggletooth
Walrus Man
Luke Skywalker: X-Wing Pilot (2006 VTSC)
R5-D4 (2006 Saga)
Death Star Droid
Power Droid
Boba Fett (2004 VOTC)
The Empire Strikes Back
Leia Organa (Bespin Gown) (2004 OTC)
FX-7
Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear)
Bossk (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
IG-88
Luke Skywalker (Bespin Fatigues) (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
Han Solo (Hoth Outfit)
Lando Calrissian (2004 VOTC)
Bespin Security Guard
Yoda (2004 VOTC)
Ugnaught
Dengar (2004 Saga)
Han Solo (Bespin Outfit) (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
Lobot (2004 OTC)
Princess Leia Organa (Hoth Outfit)
Rebel Commander
AT-AT Driver (2006 Saga)
Imperial Commander
2-1B
Artoo-Detoo (with Sensorscope) (2004 VOTC)
See-Threepio (with removable limbs)
Luke Skywalker (Hoth Battle Gear) (2004 Saga)
AT-AT Commander
(Twin-Pod) Cloud Car Pilot (2004 OTC)
Bespin Security Guard (black)
Imperial TIE Fighter Pilot (2004 Saga)
Zuckuss (4-LOM)
4-LOM (Zuckuss)
Return of the Jedi
Admiral Ackbar
Luke Skywalker (Jedi Knight Outfit) (RUMORED 2007 30AC)
Princess Leia Organa (Boushh Disguise) (2006 Saga)
Gamorrean Guard
Emperor's Royal Guard
Chief Chirpa (2006 Saga)
Logray (Ewok Medicine Man)
Klaatu
Rebel Commando (2006 Saga)
Weequay
Squid Head
General Madine (2004 Saga)
Bib Fortuna (2006 Saga)
Ree-Yees
Biker Scout (2006 VTSC)
Lando Calrissian (Skiff Guard Disguise) (2004 Saga)
Nien Nunb
Nikto
8D8
Princess Leia Organa (in Combat Poncho) (RUMORED 2007 VINTAGE)
Wicket W. Warrick
The Emperor
B-Wing Pilot
Klaatu (in Skiff Guard Outfit)
Han Solo (in Trench Coat) (2006 VTSC)
Teebo
Prune Face
AT-ST Driver
Rancor Keeper
Lumat
Paploo
The Power of the Force
Artoo-Detoo with pop-up Lightsaber
Luke Skywalker (in Battle Poncho) (2006 Saga)
Romba
Amanaman
Barada
Imperial Gunner (2006 Saga)
Han Solo (in Carbonite Chamber) (2006 Saga)
Luke Skywalker (Imperial Stormtrooper Outfit) (RUMORED MARVEL 2-PACK)
Anakin Skywalker
EV-9D9
Warok
Lando Calrissian (General Pilot) (2004 Saga)
A-Wing Pilot (RUMORED 2007 30AC)
Imperial Dignitary
Yak Face
Matt:
And here’s what they’ve realistically got left, after tossing out what’s been done recently and what’s rumored for next year:
Star Wars
Artoo-Detoo
Death Squad Commander
Snaggletooth
Walrus Man
Death Star Droid
Power Droid
The Empire Strikes Back
FX-7
Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear)
IG-88
Han Solo (Hoth Outfit)
Bespin Security Guard
Ugnaught
Princess Leia Organa (Hoth Outfit)
Rebel Commander
Imperial Commander
2-1B
See-Threepio (with removable limbs)
AT-AT Commander
Bespin Security Guard (black)
Zuckuss (4-LOM)
4-LOM (Zuckuss)
Return of the Jedi
Admiral Ackbar
Gamorrean Guard
Emperor's Royal Guard
Logray (Ewok Medicine Man)
Klaatu
Weequay
Squid Head
Ree-Yees
Nien Nunb
Nikto
8D8
Wicket W. Warrick
The Emperor
B-Wing Pilot
Klaatu (in Skiff Guard Outfit)
Teebo
Prune Face
AT-ST Driver
Rancor Keeper
Lumat
Paploo
The Power of the Force
Artoo-Detoo with pop-up Lightsaber
Romba
Amanaman
Barada
Anakin Skywalker
EV-9D9
Warok
Imperial Dignitary
Yak Face
Random thoughts:
*There's a lot of crap in there that a lot of folks probably wouldn't be too keen on paying $10+ for
*There's a few figures in there, that, while not having been done in the last year or two, were done so well originally that there's not a whole lot that can be improved on with them. I'm thinking specifically of FX-7, the 2004 TIE Fighter Pilot, and Amanaman here, although there are probably a few others, too
*And there's a few figures, although being done recently, could probably stand for the vintage treatment. Luke Hoth and the Skiff Guard and General Landos would probably be good candidates
*Hasbro has repeatedly stated in the Q & A's that they have no plans for doing POTF-style vintage cards, and it's been thought by some that the coins may be the reason for that. But with the coins returning in the basic line next year, I have to wonder if that may open up the possibility for some POTF-style vintage releases
*The only way that I can see the vintage line being completed is if they start to (gulp) repack some of the main characters back into the line, and start to thin things out a little. A fantastic way to do that would be to start using some of the original logo or alternate-photo cardbacks:
Luke (gunner picture/ROTJ logo)
Artoo (original and bunker-blasted pictures)
Chewie (original picture/SW logo)
Darth Vader (SW logo and new picture/ROTJ logo)
Ben Kenobi (new picture/ROTJ logo)
Han Solo (new picture/ROTJ logo)
Boba Fett (SW logo and new picture/ROTJ logo)
Yoda (new picture/ROTJ logo)
Stormtrooper (SW logo)
Threepio (SW logo)
Artoo:
After all of the main characters & AB the line will fall. :'( So after this wave they should put one warmer vintage figure in each wave.
Ben:
I liked the idea of VOTC back in 2004, and was willing to pay the $10 price to get them.
While I liked the 2006 Saga series, this idea really need go no further. Sure, a few more characters wouldn't be a bad thing, but if they start putting stuff like Ewoks and Nikto on these cards, it'll be time to hang it up. The Jawa is slightly insulting, especially if only one is in the package.
Just release the figures on the basic cards for $7 instead of $12 fancy packaging. I like seeing the vintage cards, but I don't think it's so much worth $5 extra. And I hope they quit sticking in-demand army builders in these waves. I'd love to have more Biker Scouts and Stormtroopers, but it's too expensive. They COULD repack those instead of camo Battle Droids, but I can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first.
Rob:
Given the unbearable junk they showed at Comic Con - I'd gladly pay 12$ for more VOTC figures - as many as they can crank out over the next 5 to 10 years.
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