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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2007, 08:25 AM »
I like the conspiracy and hope it's never 'solved.' 

Personally, I think they had two coats during filming - one brown, one blue.  Maybe the cut scenes (sent to Kenner?) used the blue coat and that's why the vintage Han (1980) is the way it is.

I don't care - both are fine with me, although if I had to choose - blue is the way to go only out of nostalgia.



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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2007, 09:23 AM »

I don't care - both are fine with me, although if I had to choose - blue is the way to go only out of nostalgia.




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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2007, 09:33 PM »
I agree with the nostalgia love on blue, I think if that's your basis that's cool...

However, I just can't see the argument that there's any shred of doubt about the coat's color now.  Fading doesn't happen uniformly over a fabric so personally I think that's a real big stretch as to it being the "reasonable doubt" on the matter, but that's me...  I, at one time, was a blue guy and now I've seen more than enough to feel it's brown.

To me, the best photographic evidence is the picture of Han in front of the lifesize snowspeeder prop (which also shows the glaring overscale size of the Snowspeeder toy by the way), which is a well lit, sound stage setting, and the coat's as brown as it gets in that picture, just like the prop that was rolled out.

Either way, I'm happy to get a blue one...  For nostalgia reasons, which then I understand, I'm also into picking one up to display with the brown.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2007, 12:40 AM »


This pic was my proof for a long time that the coat was brown

The final nail for me was the licensing slick from Kenner where the Pantone color was Brown (I also like they used the Pantone cards in the CIV coat display case showing the card)

Why did they pick blue instead?  I'm guessing someone read the code wrong (540 on the chart is Blue while 405 is Brown).  Couple that with a not so iron fist handle on LFL Licensing (Cantina Aliens, 4-LOM/Zuckuss, etc) it slipped through the cracks.  Couple that with blue tinged natural light in a cold icy planet and you have millions of disillusioned and incorrect memories.

Actually pulling the coat out of the archives was all the final proof I needed.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2007, 01:45 PM »
I agree the coat's brown in the movie. 

I just like the mystery behind the blue one.  From my understanding there were a few cut scenes from the Hoth sequence - you just never know what the costume dept. had in mind...

Maybe the scenes were cut because Han's coat was blue? 

Hell, I don't know and that's what makes it cool.


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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2007, 10:01 PM »


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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2007, 10:12 PM »
Wow.

VTSC Han (Blue Coat)
AT-ST Driver
Hoth Rebel Soldier
1 ****** Snowtrooper (circa POTF)
2 VTSC Snowtroopers (dirty deco) Brown? would gray have made more sense?
1 Snowspeeder Luke (NEW)
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2007, 10:43 PM »
Holy.  ****.   ;D  So buying this (whatever the cost!)

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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2007, 10:45 PM »
That's a lot for one battle pack.  The TRU set with the beasts and three figures is going for $60.  This has 7 figures, the turret and the AT-ST.  I'm thinking the price point is probably going to be at least that much, but more likely $80.

*EDIT - Is it me, or does it look like there might be one more figure in this set?  I think there might be a second Hoth Rebel up in the turret.  There's some kind of plastic at the top of the turret, and what looks like a hand.  But whatever figure might be there is obscured by the angled Star Wars logo on the box.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2007, 10:59 PM »
That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)

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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2007, 11:02 PM »
Holy crap that is one awesome battle pack! I almost don't believe it's real.

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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2007, 11:02 PM »
That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)

Good catch. I didn't even see that up there.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2007, 11:08 PM »
Looks like I'll be buying this. Very nice.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2007, 11:10 PM »
That is the repainted Bren Derlin (in Grey coat) I was just going to point that out Nick :)

Good catch. I didn't even see that up there.

Good memory indeed!  I only saw the hand.
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Re: 30AC Battle of Hoth Battle Pack?
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2007, 11:42 PM »
I only saw the hand.

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