Wow, spoken like a bitter Seahawks fan if I didn't know better.
Nothing was stolen... Holmes' feet were in bounds, Warner's arm hadn't moved forward, and only did so after the ball was knocked loose, blah blah blah... I'm not going to argue the points because I think bias is in all of them to either side. Harrison's hits were dumb, without a doubt... I dunnoa bout ejection-worthy though. Did you see the scrums throughout the game? Did you see guys hitting people who came off the field into their sidelines? I did... I didn't complain about it. This was a chippy and ugly game, and that's on BOTH sides. I think the officials took that into account and didn't want to decide the game by tossing a player out on either side. I think there were times the refs did let that stuff get out of hand.
He got a penalty... We were in such **** field position at that point, it didn't matter, but that's the rule. A guy ran our holder over without even remotely trying to stop, and even pushed him down as he went over him.... That was pretty blatantly ugly... He got a penalty for that too, and I considered it a pretty equally dick maneuver.
Did Harrison "cheat"? I don't think that's fair in the slightest... Pummeling someone isn't cheating, it's unsportsmanlike, but not "cheating". It's football in a game where hard-nosed football was taking a spotlight. Like I said, scrums were getting out of hand all over the place with pushing, punching, and other stuff... That's football to me though I guess... I see that every year in the NFL. At the end of the day Harrison's a leader on his team, an inspiration to the men he takes the field with, and he helps make a winner with his intensity... I'll change my tune on him when he starts making a spectacle of himself and bad mouthing his coaches, his owners, his teammates, and his city/fans.
Yes, my stance hasn't changed on TO and that argument.
Vlad, to your Q's...
The way I understand it, the ball must break the plane (Not cross it completely, where there's confusion I think) if it's being carried into the endzone... If it's being passed to a player in the endzone already, he must have control of the ball and both feet must touch inside the endzone.
In your second scenario you're saying like a running back is taking it into the endzone backwards and for whatever reason his arms are extended OUTSIDE the endzone, right? Like he's going into the endzone ass first... I'm not sure if they don't consider that a possibility, or if they just would review it and the same rule would apply that the ball would have to break the plane, rather than the player's whole body be inside the endzone with control (IE: It goes to the "receiver" rule).
Anyway, where I felt the officiating failed in the game was with holding... The officials were 50/50 with calling it, and that hampers how the game ultimately gets played by the players. It sends mixed signals when you're calling one little hold here, and missing a big one there. That was overall too, not just for/against the Steelers or Cards... It really was bad calls on the "little" stuff that sets the pace of the game. I would prefer a game be called the way it's meant to be and I don't dig "putting the whistles away". There was some of that, but when you thought that was the way it was going to be, you'd see blatant holds on the replays that there's no way the refs missed them all. Eh, whatever though.
I'm just ecstatic to be a Steeler fan with a championship team again. I went most of my life never (remembering anyway) a Steeler championship, and now I've seen two pretty close together, and with some really insanely great players too... I feel blessed considering how bad things were for most of my childhood watching them. I thought they were going to have an uphill climb this season too, and they did, but they really turned out to be a special group of players, and Tomlin just kicks much ass as a coach. I love his demeanor on and off the field. I'm not venturing down to the parade tomorrow, it's gonna be nuts I'm sure, but man I bet it'll be fun!