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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #165 on: February 4, 2010, 06:33 PM »
I, at this point, agree.  I like parts of AOTC, but there's a lot more about the cartoons that I like than don't like.  With AOTC it's almost 50/50, but with CW3D it's almost 100% good even when it's not great.  By far and away the toon's superior to TPM.

That's really sad when you think about it.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #166 on: February 5, 2010, 01:22 AM »
I hated that black lightsaber.  I can't believe Lucas actually approved that thing.  Talk about screaming EU.  Even if it was like a thousand years old or something.


I like the idea that the Mandalorians have a long history as adversaries of the Jedi, and that they would take trophies like this.  But a black lightsaber that looks like a Samurai sword?
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #167 on: February 6, 2010, 09:18 AM »
Loved the end of last night's episode.

Between Obi Wan's "would have left the order" and Obi Wan saying "I'm not a cold blooded killer" and then Anakin's light saber through the chest a second later. Pretty interesting stuff.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #168 on: February 6, 2010, 11:00 AM »
The writers of this series really deserve a lot of credit.  I had zero expectations for this show and even less after seeing the 'movie.'  It got off to a rocky start, but this year the show has become an exactly what Star Wars was to me as a kid - high adventure, good characters and fun - no more, no less.  The Madalore story and the Duchess/Obi Wan story in particular really add color to a character who has had no real investigation in 33 years.  They are a stunning contrast to the immature, passionate romance between Anakin and Padme and a good counterpoint to it (how perfect was Anakin killing that guy at the end - that's real writing). 

The one quibble I have is that Obi Wan should not have said he'd leave the order.  I don't believe he would; I think he's a soldier, a devoted Jedi, and despite his feelings would choose service over personal desire.  That would make him more of a contrast with Anakin, and his situation equally as tragic.  By him saying he'd leave - what if she asks him now?  Would he?  Will she in next week's show?

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #169 on: February 6, 2010, 11:19 AM »
Although i liked how Anakin came up behind him and killed him, I think a better resolution would've been for Obi-Wan to cut off his hand.  That way both sides of the argument would've been upheld.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #170 on: February 7, 2010, 07:41 PM »
Interesting counter-idea Matt, I kind of like that.

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The one quibble I have is that Obi Wan should not have said he'd leave the order.  I don't believe he would; I think he's a soldier, a devoted Jedi, and despite his feelings would choose service over personal desire.

Ya know what it made me think of though?  Obi-Wan's raising by Qui-Gon and how Jinn was sort of a break-away from the regular of Jedi's...  I could see Obi-Wan in his younger years (difficult to see it when he's a master) though being brash enough to say, "F it" to the Jedi ORder because he loved someone.

I liked Anakin killing the guy but it was uber predictable too.  My gf and I both said Anakin at the same time after I said, "who do you think is going to kill that guy?" to her, and she only watches because it' sbecome a Friday ritual.

I liked that episode for a lot of the same reasons you guys did.  Expansion of Obi-Wan's character is nice, plus Anakin was just more funny in it and background filler more than anything.  Episodes like this kind of make the Jedi (and Anakin's) downfall more emotional for some reason.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #171 on: February 7, 2010, 11:11 PM »
The one quibble I have is that Obi Wan should not have said he'd leave the order.  I don't believe he would; I think he's a soldier, a devoted Jedi, and despite his feelings would choose service over personal desire.  That would make him more of a contrast with Anakin, and his situation equally as tragic.  By him saying he'd leave - what if she asks him now?  Would he?  Will she in next week's show?

What I gathered from watching the episode a few times is that dialogue was merely a ploy to distract Merrick as evidenced by the look Satine gave Obi-Wan in order for him to "play along". You could pretty much see Obi-Wan's "I see what's going on here moment" and it was played by both of them well. Granted, there might have been some truth to it, but I think is was said to throw the traitor off his game so Satine could stomp on his foot and get the blaster.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #172 on: February 8, 2010, 09:54 AM »
I think that look was two people realizing the severity of the moment, and how much needed to be said.

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #173 on: February 8, 2010, 01:50 PM »
Good episode.  I liked how they developed Obi Wan's character more with his relation to the Duchess.  Certainly a contrast to Anakin. 

As was stated in a few previous posts, this new Clone Wars show goes far and beyond the TPM and AOTC films in the quality of the stories, dialogue, character development, and even visual sequences.  While one does need to be familiar with the prequels to really get all that is going on in the CW3D show, it certainly is better.  Kind of too bad its actually a syndicated cartoon series that accomplishes the characterizations and stories that the films should have done in the first place.  I guess that goes to show us what can happen when Lucas only supervises with creative input and does not direct :P

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #174 on: February 13, 2010, 11:10 AM »
Last night was another great episode.  I loved he McQuarrie Coruscant shout out.   :)

I thought the ending was a little soft - Satine and Obi went unresolved, but then we haven't seen the last of her, or the Mandalores.  I loved the concussion effect that followed the explosion of the thermal detonator, the Coruscant clones, the very astute political wrangling (far more precise than the films), and just about everything with the show.  It's far and away the best thing to happen to Star Wars in the PT era.

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #175 on: February 13, 2010, 11:12 AM »
I was just reading through the Hasbro Press Release for Toy Fair, and noticed the write up for the Boba Fett role play helmet mentions that he appears in both The Empire Strikes Back and the Clone Wars - so maybe he is on the way?  I wonder if that was an intentional release, or a slip up?

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #176 on: February 13, 2010, 01:44 PM »
Gotta be a mistake.  I don't think he shows up in the CW - and if he does, he'll just be a kid, right?

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2010, 04:37 PM »
Blah...I was glad to see the the Death Squad intro, but I didn't care for these three episodes personally.
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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #178 on: February 16, 2010, 04:18 PM »
It was a pretty decent episode.  I'm enjoying seeing the McQuarrie-inspired area of Coruscant and the way the political wrangling played out in the show.  You could tell Palpatine was a bit annoyed when his plans to occupy Mandalor fell through. 

I know this show is marketed for kids under the age of 15, but one really has to be older to fully appreciate all its complexities.  When one knows something about the Star Wars universe, has familiarity with (Earth's) history, and understands the working of both the military and politics, the show takes on whole new meanings - something your average American pre-teen is not going to understand ;) 

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Re: The Clone Wars - Season Two Discussion Thread
« Reply #179 on: February 22, 2010, 12:30 AM »
I didn't get to catch this till tonight unfortunately...

I liked it, i thought it wrapped up a 3-show-arc nicely but left things untied for future episodes like was mentioned.  The Mandalores are a threat now, and so on.

Pretty cool stuff.
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