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Why does Vader Die?
« on: May 23, 2010, 06:28 PM »
Caught ROTJ on Spike this evening (again) and it had me wondering.  Luke got shocked by the Emperor's lightning for a minute or two and was completely fine afterwards, but Vader only got the treatment for a few seconds or so as he tossed the old man and he kicked the bucket soon after.  Granted he just got his hand chopped off and is more "robot" than man, but.....
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 09:00 PM »
He also has a life support system in that suit that was pretty bady damaged due to the power surge...notice how his breathing is different after he tosses the Emperor over the side.


It was also in the script.   :D
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 01:29 PM »
Simple:  He dies because what in the world are you supposed to do with him if he lives?

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 05:28 PM »
Simple:  He dies because what in the world are you supposed to do with him if he lives?




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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 06:07 PM »
^ No idea what the **** that's even supposed to mean, much less what's funny about it.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 08:37 PM »
It's from the Infinities comic series...at the end of ROTJ, neiter Vader or the Emperor died, yet Vader returned to the light side of the force.  He was injured but came out of the medical bay in white armor and vowed to help track doen the Emperor.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2010, 11:03 PM »
Oh, so it's just more Exhausted Universe garbage, then?  I see.  Thanks.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 05:13 AM »
Vader's exposure to the force lightning played havoc with the electrically regulated breathing system that he had as his one and only life support.

Bar being in a hyperbaric chamber (like the one you see him in ESB) he could not sustain long periods of time without the mask and breathing system.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2010, 10:00 AM »
Oh, so it's just more Exhausted Universe garbage, then?  I see.  Thanks.

I've said this numerous times, but I think it's hilarious when some of you get so angry over EU. Just ignore it and leave it for us who enjoy it. It'll be ok.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2010, 10:43 AM »
I've said this numerous times, but I think it's hilarious when some of you get so angry over EU.

Hardly angry over it, just had no idea what it was.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2010, 10:50 AM »
I've said this numerous times, but I think it's hilarious when some of you get so angry over EU.

Hardly angry over it, just had no idea what it was.

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Just ignore it and leave it for us who enjoy it. It'll be ok.

Hey, I'm tryin' to, buddy!  This is the Original Trilogy section, after all.  I was hoping I'd be safe from that crap in here, but it just wasn't meant to be this time.

My "It'll be Ok" comment deserved your "Buddy" comment. But the "Exhausted Universe, garbage" sounded angry to me. Having said that you are certainly correct that this is the "OTC" thread and EU answers maybe don't fit.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 11:13 AM »
But the "Exhausted Universe, garbage" sounded angry to me.

Oh, I just say stuff like that to tweak any Exhausted Universe garbage-lovers who might be reading.  And it sometimes works.  But I don't get angry about it, just like I don't get angry when talking about regular garbage.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 04:11 PM »
The "White Vader" is beyond stupid...  I cannot believe Hasbro even made a figure of that.  It does answer the question what someone would do with Vader if he lived though, and it's a really bad answer.  :-\
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2010, 01:58 PM »
I happen to like the EU stories.  Whoever posted the bit about Infinities apparently didn't get the point of those publications.  They are supposed to be similar to the "What if?" titles from Marvel that tell of a possible sequence of events that could have happened in some alternate reality. 

"Star Wars Infinities is a group of mini-series published by Dark Horse Comics, which tell non-canon alternate events that branch off from the events of Star Wars Episodes IV-VI. The individual Infinities stories are unrelated to one another.

No where else in the EU does Vader come back to life in white armor to fight for the light side.  The actual EU stories tie in pretty nicely with the movies in most cases.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2010, 03:38 PM »
I think he "got it", he just thought it was stupid regardless of whether it was to fit with the established movie canon or not.
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