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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2010, 03:52 PM »
Well, I think we can all agree to that.

As to the original question, seems pretty simple why Vader died and Luke didn't.  An electrical surge will often jolt a human, but not kill them.  It could  kill someone if the voltage is too high or he is exposed too long.

Now take a small surge of electricity and pipe it into your TV or Home Computer and it's totally fried.  Since Vader was more machine than man, it makes sense that Vader's circuits just fried.

If you want a deeper meaning, you could also hypothesize that Vader was just toying with Luke.  Trying to make him suffer with a lower dose of lightning.  But when Vader picks him, the Emperor realizes the betrayal and risk of life, so he turns up the juice trying to kill Vader as quickly as possible.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 01:21 PM »
So it would be really easy to kill Vader with an EMP burst. So if Vader's star destroyer was hit with an ION cannon pulse, his ship would be disabled and Vader would be dead.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 02:43 PM »
So it would be really easy to kill Vader with an EMP burst. So if Vader's star destroyer was hit with an ION cannon pulse, his ship would be disabled and Vader would be dead.

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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 05:25 PM »
I'm going to go with Matt's answer of "what do you do with him if he lives?"

If you think about it - when Vader asks Luke to remove his mask, sure Vader's breathing was labored, but it still worked.

You mean to tell me the medical frigate wouldn't have had a facility where they could have cared for him? Of course it did.

So instead of taking off Vader's mask, Luke could have dragged him into the shuttle and plotted a course for the medical frigate, got on board and brought him before the medical droid.

But then what?

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Um, yeah, doesn't really have as much gravitas as him dying to save his son.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2010, 11:07 PM »
The Force Lightning from the Emporer certainly was a major contributor in Vader's death.  But given the way Lucas dealt with Padme's death in childbirth?  I think if you asked him about it, he would say that Vader was using the Force to help sustain himself.  And his redemption from the Dark Side may have brought him to a level of peace where he could let himself die.

Simple:  He dies because what in the world are you supposed to do with him if he lives?




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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2010, 03:29 PM »
Even though Vader saved his son and was redeemed, he would still have to stand trail for war crimes. The new republic would still hang him regardless of being a Clone Wars hero and saving the last Jedi from death. Alot of people after the Battle of Endor though the Jedi shouldn't be allowed to exist anyway.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #21 on: September 4, 2010, 12:49 PM »
His death - aside from the obvious symbolism/redemption aspect - tied the 6 movies up into a neat little box.  As it was Vader's story - it began and ended with him.  Simple.  Period. 
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #22 on: November 4, 2010, 04:16 PM »
Even though Vader saved his son and was redeemed, he would still have to stand trail for war crimes. The new republic would still hang him regardless of being a Clone Wars hero and saving the last Jedi from death. Alot of people after the Battle of Endor though the Jedi shouldn't be allowed to exist anyway.

Exactly what I was going to say. If Vader survived, he would have had to flee to the Star Wars version of Argentina.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #23 on: November 6, 2010, 12:58 AM »
That made me LOL.

Because Hitler's remains became something of a mystery after WW2 for a while, he was kind of like Bigfoot with sightings all over the world and stuff...  I wonder if Vader would've had similar things go on with him.

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The same guy was interviewed about a massive sandstorm on the planet and said, "It sounded like a hovertrain!", to the intergalactic news.
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Re: Why does Vader Die?
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 05:53 PM »
I'd love to see some Tattooine hillbillies looking for Vader ala "Monsterquest" or "Ghost Hunters."
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