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The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« on: August 6, 2010, 09:22 PM »
So since she's never seen or mentioned, and the trailer for season 3 heavily implies that something is going to happen to her, what do you all think will be the case? Who do you suppose will do her in? Or maybe she survives and goes on to knighthood and is just away fighting in another galaxy when the events of ROTS happen and may become a victim of order 66? Thoughts/theories?

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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #1 on: August 7, 2010, 02:38 AM »
I lean away from them doing her in on the show...  Lucas is kind of wishy washy that way sometimes, especially with a project he sort of puts his input on some. 

I think the hints for Season 3 have been vague, at best.  Really the only thing they've hinted at is her seeing bad stuff in the future, but is it against her or is it all the bad stuff we already know is going to happen without her?

I could see the series ending with her knighthood and reassignment to another front.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2010, 12:28 AM »
I'm also pushing for her knighthood by the end of the series, and possible unseen extermination in Order 66. I also I wouldn't be surprised if we see some novel or comic book miniseries as to her survival of Order 66. It depends on how LucasFilm is feeling. In the "Star Wars" universe, there's a tendency for some characters to just completely disappear, leaving their fates unknown (i.e. Asajj Ventress, Master Tholme, Quinlan Vos, Shaak Ti for awhile before she was finally included in TFU).
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 01:23 AM »
I found a link to season three episode titles, there are a lot of spoilers in the titles. I posted in the main thread I think the last episode title eludes to the answer. Read at your own risk, this will be very common knowledge soon but I want to warn you guys.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 09:58 AM »
I'm also pushing for her knighthood by the end of the series, and possible unseen extermination in Order 66. I also I wouldn't be surprised if we see some novel or comic book miniseries as to her survival of Order 66. It depends on how LucasFilm is feeling. In the "Star Wars" universe, there's a tendency for some characters to just completely disappear, leaving their fates unknown (i.e. Asajj Ventress, Master Tholme, Quinlan Vos, Shaak Ti for awhile before she was finally included in TFU).

As far as I'm concerned, Anakin killed Asajj when he threw her off that cliff in the Tartakovsky series.

And General Grievous killed Shaak Ti in the opening scenes of ROTS.

At this point, you just have to find a continuity that works for you, since there is no quality control on the part of the franchise.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2010, 01:46 AM »
At this point, you just have to find a continuity that works for you, since there is no quality control on the part of the franchise.

I have to agree with your comment here on quality control - after watching the first 2 episodes of the Season 3 a few hours ago, it seems that canon continuity (as far as this series is concerned) is really spinning out of control. I know that the crew behind the series claims they're going to establish "the" definite timeline once the series is finished 100%, but judging by what we've seen so far that's going to be extremely difficult.

Once you've mades hundreds of novels, cartoons, and comic books all on the same topic, you know things are going to get messy.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 05:59 PM »
At some point I would like to see Anakin start to "turn" a bit away from the Jedi.  I kind of wonder if they will have something with Ahsoka that he blames the Jedi for somehow.  Maybe they "prevent" him from helping her somehow?  I don't know.  Just tossing it out there.  I hope she figures into the overall saga some way but of course not the main reason that he turns.  I want to see some more reasons that Anakin turns from the Jedi other than him wanting to save his wife from death.  Not that it isn't a good reason but to kill lots of innocent Jedi and such maybe we'll get a bit more oomph to it from this series???

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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 09:04 PM »
At some point I would like to see Anakin start to "turn" a bit away from the Jedi.  I kind of wonder if they will have something with Ahsoka that he blames the Jedi for somehow.  Maybe they "prevent" him from helping her somehow?  I don't know.  Just tossing it out there.  I hope she figures into the overall saga some way but of course not the main reason that he turns.  I want to see some more reasons that Anakin turns from the Jedi other than him wanting to save his wife from death.  Not that it isn't a good reason but to kill lots of innocent Jedi and such maybe we'll get a bit more oomph to it from this series???

I like that line of thought, but you can't have Ahsoka be one of the reasons and not have it remain un-mentioned in ROTS. Afterall, sure he may be getting dangerously close to the dark side by the start of the movie, but that rescue of Palpatine sequence and their arrival on Coruscant is pretty much in keeping with how Anakin and Obi-Wan interact with each other in the cartoon.

If something happened to Ahsoka that upset Anakin, he'd be harping on it to Obi-Wan in the movie.

He really doesn't get upset with the Jedi until he's put on the council and they don't make him a master. If they had just given him the rank of Jedi Master and he had been allowed access to all of the holocrons that only masters have access to, he would have killed Sidious himself.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 09:09 PM »
I don't know, i can see it being something he has in his mind somehow...  I've always had it assumed that, in some respect, Anakin is barred from going to/after his mother and that's why he does it once he's with Padme and away from the Jedi Order...  It's not really mentioned in ROTS (Sidious mentions it briefly, but he doesn't bring it up to Jedi), but I somehow always felt that he was held back from that and resented them slightly for it even if it wasn't directly addressed that way.

I could see something happening to Ahsoka that he views as "their fault", and harbors that resentment towards the Jedi...  It doesn't necessarilly need a mention for it to be an effective addition to ROTS.  It could build on why he defends Palpatine against Mace or something.  I could see it anyway.

Part of me would hate to see Ahsoka go out that way though.  She's cute, got a bubbly personality compared to other Jedi...  You sorta hate to see her get offed.  It could add a lot to Anakin's character though I think.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2010, 05:38 AM »
I'd like to see her go down in a rather poetic and tragic way. For example, she follows up a lead on her own late at night, and finds Dooku and Palpatine meeting down in the Courascant Underworld or something. She's shocked to discover that Palpatine is the sith lord they'd been looking for and hastily retreats to inform Anakin and the council. As she's making her way through the underbelly of the city, she realizes she's being stalked by the two Sith lords, they sensed her presence and are going to make sure she doesn't ruin their plans. After a lengthy chase, she makes it to the temple entrance way, thinking she lost them. As she runs toward the temple, Anakin senses she's in danger and quickly heads off to find her. 
  Just as Ashoka is nearing the temple entrance, Sidious drops in front of her from the shadows and runs her through. He quickly discards his Sith gear and bends over the mortally wounded Ashoka putting on his best concerned face, just as Anakin and a few other Jedi exit the temple. Anakin quickly rushes up and asks the Chancellor what he's doing here and what happened. Palpatine explains that he was on his way to discuss some war stuff with the council when he saw a Sith assassin drop from the shadows and stab Ashoka. Anakin cradles Ashoka in his arms as she desperately tries to get the words that Palpatine was the Sith out, but she's too weak to form the words. The whole while she stares frightfully at Palpatine who is standing behind Anakin, with a comforting hand on his shoulder. He smiles sinisterly at her and she dies. Anakin rages out and wrecks whatever is nearby. Windu is present for this display of passion and anger and it disturbs him greatly, prompting his distrust of Anakin in episode 3. Anakin once again blames himself for a loved ones death, due to his not sensing the danger soon enough or being fast enough to reach her in time, thus bringing him one step closer to wanting the power to save people from death. I imagine this scenario might traumatize the kiddies though. What's everyone think?

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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2010, 12:02 PM »
That was great! I think that would be a great idea for Palps to off her to draw Anakin into the dark side.
I wish the episodes as of late had some of that kind of drama in them. But hey, they know tainted soft drinks is so much more compelling to the audience.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 01:15 AM »
I like the idea of Ahoska trying to tell Anakin that Palps is the Sith Lord while Palps is just innocently standing there, with his hand on Anakin's shoulder. It even symbolizes how manipulative Palps is of Anakin and the Jedi.

I agree that the show needs some sort of drama to it. We all love good action, but coupled with dramatic scenes (like the death of Ima-Gun Di, the Nikto Jedi), it adds a much-needed darker tone to the show.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2010, 01:32 PM »
So after the "Assassin" episode (with the "She will die... and there's nothing you can do" line that we all thought meant Ahsoka), it doesn't look like Ahsoka will die anytime soon. By Aurra Sing's lines in the Season 3 trailers, we were all led to believe that something big would happen to Ahsoka, but it turns out they were in reference to Padme.
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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2010, 07:38 PM »
I'd like to see her go down in a rather poetic and tragic way. For example, she follows up a lead on her own late at night, and finds Dooku and Palpatine meeting down in the Courascant Underworld or something. She's shocked to discover that Palpatine is the sith lord they'd been looking for and hastily retreats to inform Anakin and the council. As she's making her way through the underbelly of the city, she realizes she's being stalked by the two Sith lords, they sensed her presence and are going to make sure she doesn't ruin their plans. After a lengthy chase, she makes it to the temple entrance way, thinking she lost them. As she runs toward the temple, Anakin senses she's in danger and quickly heads off to find her. 
  Just as Ashoka is nearing the temple entrance, Sidious drops in front of her from the shadows and runs her through. He quickly discards his Sith gear and bends over the mortally wounded Ashoka putting on his best concerned face, just as Anakin and a few other Jedi exit the temple. Anakin quickly rushes up and asks the Chancellor what he's doing here and what happened. Palpatine explains that he was on his way to discuss some war stuff with the council when he saw a Sith assassin drop from the shadows and stab Ashoka. Anakin cradles Ashoka in his arms as she desperately tries to get the words that Palpatine was the Sith out, but she's too weak to form the words. The whole while she stares frightfully at Palpatine who is standing behind Anakin, with a comforting hand on his shoulder. He smiles sinisterly at her and she dies. Anakin rages out and wrecks whatever is nearby. Windu is present for this display of passion and anger and it disturbs him greatly, prompting his distrust of Anakin in episode 3. Anakin once again blames himself for a loved ones death, due to his not sensing the danger soon enough or being fast enough to reach her in time, thus bringing him one step closer to wanting the power to save people from death. I imagine this scenario might traumatize the kiddies though. What's everyone think?

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Re: The death or disappearance of Ahsoka?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2010, 05:06 PM »
In narrative there is  away to simplify the story, when it reaches the end, by eliminating secondary characters.
This is useful for detective tales, mistery, horror.

But we can hardly consider Ahsoka a secondary character. Her death wouldnīt disturb kids as the death of the toyadrian king (sorry, I donīt remember the name of this guy from the race of Watto)

Moreover, Ahsoka timeline hasnīt reached its top. She colud survive and perhaps encounter Shaak Ti on Felucia OF TFU, maybe know about Kota, or be trained by her.

If Lucasfilm killed this lady inside the animated style; they will miss the chance to expand her adventures in a realistic style (like video games as TFU2)