You two do understand the difference between a forum and a blog, right? Last I checked, this was a forum intended for discussion, not "Matt and Rob's Blog" where no one gets to voice their independent thoughts. This will shock you, but people CAN converse back and forth with differing opinions without someone feeling the need to label it a fit or bickering because they can't handle a thought that doesn't match their own. I know you have this ridiculous expectation that you should get to say what you want and everyone should fall in line, but it just doesn't work like that here. You can also stop exaggerating issues and start telling the truth if you want to publicly debate things.
Let's start with Matt first, since he's more fun than Rob. Matt, I'm sure you would oppose me regardless of my stand on anything these days. For those that don't know, Matt is upset that I offered to sell him my Archangel Marvel U figure for $30. I paid $8 for it ages ago and now it goes for $40 or more on Ebay. I honestly thought I was helping him out, but he took offense and now takes to trolling through my threads to bad mouth me and call me a scalper whenever he can, including in the smack talk on our Yahoo Fantasy Football site. Now THAT is throwing a fit. I'm tempted to just sell you the figure for $8 if you'll agree to just stop whining about it for 5 minutes. That's clearly what this is really about for you and its obvious from your post. I tried being civil about it for as long as I could, but you just don't stop. Go try to spin it however you like, you're a 12 year old girl having a hissy because you can't get your doll for $8.
And yes, I did lobby to have my trade deadline sped up after asking anyone if they had opposition to the trade. It was a unique circumstance given the timing of the draft, the Thursday night game, the fact that I couldn't get into the draft room, so I made my case. And when we decided not to do it, I kindly shut up about it and went on my merry way, just like I said I would.
I'm sorry that you were raised not to ask questions. I personally don't have an issue with someone making their case about anything. Just like my offer for the figure, you can agree or disagree - you can like it or leave it. What you probably shouldn't do is be a big baby about it and get down on someone every chance you get just because you disagree with them. I rarely agree with Rob, but I respect his right to an opinion no matter how much it differs from mine.
And speaking of Rob, I've gone on much too long without getting back to you. I'm using "veto" interchangably with "vote against" because it's shorter to type and my posts are already too long. I guess that confused you. Feel free to interpret each "Veto" as "vote against" if it makes you less crabby. You can do the same for others who also used veto, since that word obviously upsets you.
Let's set a few other things straight. First, YOU were the one that brought the discussion here, not me. I posted a line about it on yahoosports and suddenly you're talking with Maris and making multiple posts about it here. If you don't want people to discuss it, don't post about it. If you do post about it, don't be so pissy that someone comments on it.
That's kind of what happens in a forum. Kindly accept that and stop labeling every voice of opposition as "whining." There's a clear difference between supporting your opinion and complaining about not getting your way, and I know you're grown up enough to get that.
And PLEASE don't make up **** about what I said. I have had plenty of conversations with Patrick on the side and I know he's a good guy. I have clearly clearly clearly stated multiple times that I don't think there was collusion...now you're saying I am accusing him of cheating? Really Rob? Let's be a little more honest about the stats as well. Bush had 3 carries, Thomas had 18 last week. Peterson had 25 and Tobey had 2 carries. If Thomas is a time share, then Peterson is too. And so are Mendenhall, and Turner, and every other back who had someone else run more than twice last Sunday. And I like how Thomas plays on a bad 0-2 team, but Peterson is clearly on a good
0-2 team. Get real. Yes, Peterson had 2 TD's, but it isn't like Thomas is getting pulled for Bush at the goalline. I am OBVIOUSLY not saying Peterson and Thomas are equals - I was trying to understand why, when there are many similarities, Matt would be front and center opposing an AP trade, but not a Thomas trade. But I guess we covered Matt's insecurities above.
I'll throw in one last note that you're clearly biased on this. We always disagree in the pit, so really no surprise that you feel the need to carry that to other subjects I guess. It's not like this is the first time you've done that. It's also very clear that your relationship with Maris and Patrick has zero influence on your opinion.
I guess I'll have to just keep repeating myself until the words can pas through your thick heads...
So, I've made my case for a veto. If we don't have 3 other people willing to stand up and block it, then it's clearly a bigger deal for me than others and we can happily just move on. I'm fine with that - just wanted to explain my position.