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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2012, 09:51 AM »
I do want a sail barge but I will let others buy multiple MTTs to "show support".
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2012, 10:02 AM »
I love the concept that we are somehow irresponsible if we want Product Y, but won't buy Product X beforehand.  If you want a new Ipad, are you expected to buy an earlier version first to show your respect and support? 

I get the concept that Hasbro wants to see a big item do well to have confidence in producing another big item, but it is lazy and somewhat insulting to place that responsibility on the collectors.  I can't think of any other examples where a company expects you to buy something you don't want before they will produce something else you do want.  Isn't that extortion?  How about doing some research, connecting with the fans, or even allowing pre-orders to determine your estimated volumes?  That's what other major manufacturers have to do...
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2012, 11:04 AM »
I ordered two sets.  Was tempted to get more, but two is enough.

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2012, 11:05 AM »
I do want a sail barge but I will let others buy multiple MTTs to "show support".

I am going to try and pick up the slack!   :P  ;D  :-*

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2012, 11:07 AM »
At least the sailbarge had plenty of action going on around/inside/on it. The MTTs cruise up slowly, let out a bunch of droids, and then are never seen again. The logic of putting that thing out as the better toy is a bit shoddy. And the line about needing to buy the MTT if we want to ever see the sailbarge is just lame...and a bit ****** up.
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2012, 11:11 AM »
Hasbro has already indicated that in 2013, there won't be a "Big One" - or at least not a new mold... I don't know how much influence the MTT's success or failure will have on future big items, but I think for Hasbro, a Sail Barge should be a no-brainer regardless of what it does.  Same goes for a killer Death Star playset.  However, I can see the point of view from retailers not wanting another big ticket item if they lose money on the MTT.

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2012, 11:33 AM »
Totally agree, it's asinine. "Buy this thing you don't want or we won't make the thing you do want!"

Just make the GOOD thing first, and it will sell, and then use up your crappy ideas on future releases.

And I don't need people on websites telling me what I should support or not.
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2012, 03:14 PM »
I love the concept that we are somehow irresponsible if we want Product Y, but won't buy Product X beforehand.  If you want a new Ipad, are you expected to buy an earlier version first to show your respect and support? 

Actually you are. Read Apple's TOS.
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2012, 03:36 PM »
I love the concept that we are somehow irresponsible if we want Product Y, but won't buy Product X beforehand.  If you want a new Ipad, are you expected to buy an earlier version first to show your respect and support? 

Actually you are. Read Apple's TOS.

Then we've clearly demonstrated why I don't own an Ipad either.
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2012, 02:35 PM »
Then we've clearly demonstrated why I don't own an Ipad either.

If he was serious, then yes, we would have.

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #85 on: July 22, 2012, 04:45 PM »
Then we've clearly demonstrated why I don't own an Ipad either.

If he was serious, then yes, we would have.

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #86 on: July 22, 2012, 08:21 PM »
No one insults Apple on my watch.  I converted a few years ago.   >:D

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #87 on: July 22, 2012, 10:47 PM »
Hardly anyone bought the assualt shuttle at full price and they still made the more expensive MTT.

They made the Shield Helicarrier its a big old flat piece of plastic that doesn't do much of anything.

So...I don't buy the "we won't make____"...it's more what buyers will order, even if previous big ticket items linger.
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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #88 on: July 22, 2012, 11:43 PM »
No one insults Apple on my watch.  I converted a few years ago.   >:D

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Re: Brian's Toy Exclusive - Jocasta Nu
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2012, 11:51 PM »
So...I don't buy the "we won't make____"...it's more what buyers will order, even if previous big ticket items linger.

Hasbro's never really denied this...  I think a lot of this has always been them saying, "If Retailers support it and are happy, we make more".  They've never really come out and said that if we don't get out there and buy.  Actually they're rarely ever targeted at us even.  The AT-TE wasn't really, though it was appreciated.  The TT was definitely not IMO.  The Shuttle was definitely not and Hasbro said as much.  The AT-AT I think had some collector nods, but I still think it was largely hoped to be carried by the kids not caring what movie it was from and just wanting it because it was huge and cool.  The Falcon...  Maybe it was collector-targeted, but there's so many play features it could be said we were once again the secondary target.

I totally agree with you that they really aren't saying us specifically though, and that they're really talking more about major retailer orders and overall satisfaction with it.
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