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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2013, 08:44 AM »
I'm beginning to think I should rein in my expectations a bit.  Reviews are coming in more mixed than I anticipated.  Still mostly positive, certainly.  But more than a few are saying it leans towards empty spectacle, soullessness and ineffective emotional manipulation. 

Already have the tickets pre-ordered for Saturday, so still hoping for the best!
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2013, 10:22 AM »
I'm still pretty excited, maybe even more so than I was going into Iron Man 3.  The reviews seem to be pretty positive (particularly from "nerd" sites like IGN, etc. that I visit often), although the one thing I have seen come up the most that Superman (the actual character) is very serious, all the time.  We'll see, going this weekend!

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #77 on: June 14, 2013, 02:17 AM »
Hot. Mess. That is all.

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #78 on: June 14, 2013, 09:55 AM »
Hot. Mess. That is all.

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Sounds about like what I expected. I'll never understand what is so hard about coming up with a fresh storyline and script.

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #79 on: June 14, 2013, 10:29 AM »
Not sounding great. Any after credit scenes?
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #80 on: June 14, 2013, 12:01 PM »
I hear Superman has Zod follow him to his fortress of solitude and preforms a light trick that sucks Zod's super powers out of him turning him mortal.
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #81 on: June 14, 2013, 12:18 PM »
I hear Superman has Zod follow him to his fortress of solitude and preforms a light trick that sucks Zod's super powers out of him turning him mortal.

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #82 on: June 14, 2013, 01:18 PM »
Very mild spoilers:

The good

-To me, this movie was Superman, Superman II, Smallville, and Star Trek II The Wrath of Kahn all rolled into one.
-The actors are very good
-The story is fresh
-For the most part, the CG is very good. Almost makes you wish the prequels came a decade later

The bad

-Snyder uses digital stunt doubles - a lot. I hate that. It doesn't blend in particularly well.
-Not necessarily MOS' fault but we see yet another big city destroyed and a huge alien ship crash into skyscrapers. After Transformers 3 and The Avengers, among others, it's a bit tired.

For me, MOS was very good. Going in, because of the hype on twitter, I was expecting a masterpiece. Definitely worth seeing with an audience in a theater.

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #83 on: June 15, 2013, 01:50 AM »
Saw MOS today & all I can say is EPIC!   8)

Yes this is a reboot, not the Christopher Reeves or the Brandon Routh nod to Reeves. If I sit thru a movie that is bad, I will look at my watch like those last 3 SW flicks & Indiana Nuke the Fridge "cough-cough". MOS is fricken' awesome! I did see it in 3D & the CGI fighting scenes looked off. As for the suit, never bothered me & Cavill, perfect! Nice glasses Clark, no one will still notice.... lmao...  :D
I will see it again & own it to watch again & again!

Spoliers:  Anyone else notice the Easter eggs in MOS? LexCorp logo on a couple tanker trucks, Wayne Enterprises logo on the satellite, 2 signs on buildings, Blaze Comics & Utopia Casino, Ezra’s Mail Depot store & Sullivan’s Truck & Tractor Repair sign. Smallville?  Chloe Sullivan?

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #84 on: June 15, 2013, 02:41 AM »
Just got home from the movie and I really enjoyed it. I've never been a Superman guy, always found him boring, too perfect, lacking a flaw.  I think they gave him a little depth this time.
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2013, 12:33 AM »
We went today and like IM3 my boys loved it, unlike IM3 I liked it too! My biggest gripe was too many convenient plot points (Lois on the Plane at the end)  Loved the Krypton stuff, loved Zod,loved the fight scenes, but after a while the fights got old

I did think it on par with Barman Begins...let's see where this goes!

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #86 on: June 17, 2013, 01:32 AM »
Just got back... and I absolutely loved it. Unlike IM3 or ST:ID, I will see it again in theaters and will run to get it on blu-ray.
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #87 on: June 17, 2013, 08:20 AM »
I liked it quite a bit more than I expected after the reviews I read.  I agree that the fighting at the end was just too much.  What did we get out of 5 more shots of super-beings plowing through buildings?  Me - I got bored.  Gotta imagine the casualties numbered in the millions, which is pretty jarring.  My wife said she wanted more focus on Superman saving people, and I agree with that perspective.

I didn't like it as much as IM3, but it was solid.  It was certainly better than the first and third Batmans.
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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #88 on: June 17, 2013, 11:47 AM »
Anyone that complains about the plot contrivances in Star Trek must admit to more egregious contrivances in this film.  Lois Lane actually had me throwing my hands up more than once near the end of this picture.

I like Cavill as Supes.  I REALLY liked the Krypton stuff, especially Crowe.  I liked that they didn't try to fall over themselves explaining alien tech.  It is alien tech.  That is enough.  I loved the fatherhood stuff with both of Superman's fathers (great for father's day weekend).  Liked Costner a lot.  I liked Faora, and the way they showed her fighting.  Zod was pretty good.

I have a huge problem with the way they handled Kryptonian superpowers.  The powers come from the radiation of the sun.  Jor-El explicitly stated this.  I can also buy the effects of the Kryptonian atmosphere vs. Earth's, but they just kept playing fast and loose with what affects powers, what doesn't etc. 

Why were they so afraid of saying "Smallville" "Metropolis" or worst of all, "Superman" (they didn't even call the picture Superman for crissakes)?  This isn't Batman.  A dollup of cheese is acceptable with Superman.  I wouldn't be surprised if there was discussion about never showing Supes in his costume in this film at some point in development.

As others have said, the fighting was too much.  Too long, too fake.  We've seen mass destruction done over and over, so it wasn't special.  Also, I feel like Supes would draw them away to avoid casualties.  The way buildings were falling was just... over the top and not in a good way.

MAJOR SPOILERS:
Finally, I hated the way they ended the conflict between Zod and Supes.  Superman would not have killed Zod.  Jor-El would not approve.  Jonathan would not approve.  Plus, how could he have done it since Zod is just as invulnerable as Superman is?  Just didn't make logical sense and it did not at all ring true with the nature of the character.

I think that if (when) they make a sequel, that they have the right cast, and Clark is in place where he should be at the Planet, so there is potential.  I just hope they come up with a creative way to put Superman in peril which is the core challenge with any Superman story. 

Overall, I merely liked this film.  I'd give it a 6.6 or 7 of 10. 

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Re: Superman - Man of Steel
« Reply #89 on: June 17, 2013, 12:38 PM »
Spoilers:

I disagree on the killing.  Supes killed Zod and his cohorts in the Reeve SM2.  And in that one they weren't any imminent threat to any innocents.  With Zod threatening to fry a family right in front of him, I think it's perfectly in character that Supes would kill him.  Whether he could or not is another thing entirely, but I think that he would is in-character.

I agree on Lois being on the plane.  Seems like she, as a civilian, could have just told the scientist "This goes here - good luck!"

I was more annoyed by Zod's out-of-character actions than anything else.  If his only purpose is to protect Kryptonians, then when he was piloting the ship with Supes threatening to destroy it, the in-character response would be "OK OK!  I'll stop shooting at the plane!  Let me land this thing and we'll talk!"  You don't endanger the genesis machine in the hopes that an unfamiliar enemy will respond to your pleas as you hope.  That's an instance where he could have directly impacted the safety of his species.

When you look at all what Zod did after hearing his monologue at the end about protecting Krypton, you gotta conclude he made some very bad decisions... decisions that someone bred specifically to make good decisions would not have made.
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