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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #15 on: July 9, 2015, 02:36 PM »
I get what your saying about it from a story standpoint, but I'd find it hard to believe that Tatooine would be devoid of any news after the fall of the Republic.  I would think the propaganda machine would be working overtime for any citizen to report on any Jedi that have fled and gone underground... and I would think that an image of the Emperor's Right Hand man would be menacing enough to strike fear into the heart of anyone and there'd be rumors going around of a man in black with his helmet and breathing that goes by the name Vader making it to all parts of the galaxy.

I guess that's why when Vader says that he sense a presence he hasn't felt since... I always took it to mean Ben and that their last encounter was on Mustafar.... (the whole master and apprentice conversation during their duel) otherwise, if Vader and Kenobi face off again, then somehow Ben 'wins' again and escapes, it'll make Vader look poorly as a Sith. 

But of course, Vader would know that Ben is still alive, so I would think he'd be looking for him for revenge... so... I don't know.  It's tough since the writers are already painted in a corner with pre-existing storylines (like the prequels)... if they go this route.

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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #16 on: July 9, 2015, 03:36 PM »
Fair points. I don't know - and it could be my memory failing me here - how 'known' Vader is to the general public. That being said, it's conceivable Obi-Wan in his seclusion would be unaware of a lot of what is going on out there in the galaxy. And your earlier point about Ahsoka - that's fair with her being in play now as far as the Rebels era. With Ahsoka having learned the truth (apparently) about Anakin, it's a hop skip and a jump to her relaying this to Obi-Wan, though one must assume she doesn't know where he is.

As far as Vader being diminished by another bout with Obi-Wan, I understand where you're coming from with that for sure, but I think a fight in which Obi escapes with his life just barely only reinforces Vader. After seeing a cartoon glimpse of Vader demolishing the Rebels crew, I'd be thrilled to watch the real deal demolish a little past his prime Obi-Wan who may think he's got a step on an older, damaged Anakin. It would be fan service for sure (or heresy for some) but it's one of those questions hanging between films begging for an answer. Obi-Wan finding out is huge; him finding out without the two of them locking horns again would be disappointing and unrealistic. Though not without pitfalls for sure.

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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #17 on: July 9, 2015, 03:52 PM »
I would prefer there is no Obi-Wan / Vader confrontation.

I like the fact that he has been hiding under the radar protecting Luke (and Leia?).  And when they run in to each other at the Death Star its the first time they've actually encountered each other since Mustafar.

He would only come out of hiding for important issues.  Maybe if Luke/Leia are in danger.  Maybe he could develop a way to hide his presence from Vader/Emperor and while going on covert rebel missions slip out unseen just as Vader arrives.

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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #18 on: July 9, 2015, 06:05 PM »
Well, within the Empire itself, Vader seems obviously very well known throughout the trilogy...  Everyone from Admirals down to lowly ensigns seem to know not to piss him off at least.

Now, galaxy-wide, who knows, but I've always figured the Empire was pretty significant around the Galaxy, and thus I'd think Vader is a topic people bring up.  I don't know that many (beyond Palps/Tarkin) know Vader is who he was though.  Tarkin seems to know little of Palpatine's ultimate background even.

I like to think though, that Vader's a pretty known guy.  Consider this...  Lando even seems to know how to address him properly ("Lord Vader" and all that jazz), and he's just a guy running a mining town out in the galaxy.  One of possibly literally millions or even billions (or more?) type places.  Fett knows this title to address him by as well.

All little stuff, and drifting off topic some, but ultimately then I believe Kenobi's well aware of Vader and who he is, personally.  I think Vader has a reputation he's built up.  He's maybe more infamous than famous?
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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #19 on: July 9, 2015, 06:59 PM »
I think there's the possibility that Obi-Wan knows of Vader because he knows that Darth Vader has been hunting the Jedi.  Yes, Obi-Wan came across the security recordings of Vader attacking the Jedi Temple as part of Order 66, complete with Vader killing Jedi.  But Obi-Wan spoke to Luke in his hut about Vader as if he knew more:

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A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force.

So has Obi-Wan learned of Vader's hunt from other Jedi in hiding?  Or is it more publically known?  Does the Empire have some sort of standing bounty on the Jedi?  And is Darth Vader the face of this galactic manhunt?
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Re: Star Wars Spin-Off Rumor/Idea - Kenobi!
« Reply #20 on: July 9, 2015, 11:18 PM »
Obi-Wan knows that Anakin survived and the armored figure being called Darth Vader is him because Qui-Gonn tells him.
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