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Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« on: November 21, 2003, 11:01 AM »
I got this from Rebelscum today, and sounds pretty sweet, i really wish it would happen but it is something to question? Read it over and tell me what you think about it:

Classic Trilogy Ultimate Edition In The Works

It has been reported all over the web and on this website for months, though now there's a resurgence in the rumors that an eventual and final release of the Classic Trilogy is coming. Where these rumors are coming from now is a person emailing a list of changes to websites and telling them work is being done. And while we can defintiely confirm that ILM is working on the movies for plenty of enhancements, the list may or may not be accurate. Here's the run down of possible and very rumored changes:

Episode IV: A New Hope

1. The Imperial March has been added to Darth Vader's first appearance on Princess Leia's ship.

2. When Obi-Wan is talking to Luke about his father Anakin's Theme plays in the background and then it turns into the Imperial March as he talks about Vader.

3. The lightsaber effects have been redone and the frame jumps of lightsabers being turned on has been removed.

4. There's a new scene which has been shot during the filming of Episode III in which the Emperor dissolves the Senate.

5. In the Cantina, the Duros (green aliens guys) have been replaced with Neimoidians and some aliens from the prequels have been added.

6. The bleeding arm on the floor in the Cantina has been replaced with a non-bleeding arm because it's now canon that lightsabers cauterize wounds.

7. The original shooting scene between Han and Greedo has been restored.

8. Jabba the Hutt has been given a makeover and Han no longer steps on his tale.

9. In place of R2 wobbling down the stairs to the Falcon's hangar, a CG R2 navigating the stairs like he does in Attack of the Clones was added.

10. The white boxes around space ships have been removed and new CG shots have been added.

11. The scene of the Falcon being chased by the two Star Destroyers was modified. The Falcon now does spinning moves, avoiding the Star Destroyers' fire.

12. When the Death Star destroys Alderaan there's a new scene of Yoda's reaction to the disturbance in the Force that is created by all those deaths and then it cuts to Obi-Wan reacting to it as well.

13. The Dianoga has gotten a CG makeover and were are now able to see more of the creature.

14. The Death Star's paneling and computers have been slightly altered to show similar displays to those in the prequels.

15. The words "Tractor Beam" with Aurebesh lettering.

16. More stormtroopers have been added to the Death Star.

17. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for use with all the stormtroopers.

18. The Obi-Wan/Vader duel has been spruced up. It is much more epic and there is much more movement. A modified version of Duel of the Fates is being considered for the scene.

19. The Death Star plans that are taken from R2 have been updated. When the Rebels are reviewing the Death Star plans they look similar to the plans we see in Attack of the Clones.

20. The Death Star battle is much more epic with more Tie Fighters and more Rebels being blown to bits. We get to see old Naboo starfighters being used by the Rebels.

21. There's a new scene (shot during Episode III) where Darth Vader goes to Coruscant and lands his ship in the same building Count Dooku does at the end of Attack of the Clones. Except now the building is all fixed up and it is now Palpatine's palace. He meets with Palpatine to ask for forgiveness for his failure and inform him of a new potential who is strong in the Force.

22. Chewbacca now gets a medal.

Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

1.The taun-tauns are now CG.

2. The battle of Hoth is much more epic. We see the Imperial ships land on Hoth and release AT-ATs. The AT-ATs have been sped up a bit. There's a ground battle between the Rebel soldiers and stormtroopers featuring new ships and vehicles.

3. Temuera Morrison's voice is being recorded for the older Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.

4. The white boxes around space ships have been removed.

5. The slug monster is CG.

6. Ian McDiarmid has refilmed scenes as the Emperor. The conversations between Vader and Palpatine is now longer and features a few connections to the prequels.

7. Yoda's face is now animated in CG allowing more expression of emotions yet his movements remain the same. Also two deleted scenes featuring Yoda instructing Luke have been restored.

8. A new scene was shot in which the stormtroopers, after they capture Han, Leia and Chewie, bring Vader the box containing C-3PO in pieces. Vader orders the stormtroopers to bring the broken droid to Chewbacca's cell so that he can fix him.

9. The lightsaber effects have been redone in certain parts.

10. Luke's fall from Cloud City has been reshot against bluescreen using a stuntman.

Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

1. Jabba the Hutt is now a combination of the puppet and CG.

2. The Rancor is CG and looks disgusting as ever.

3. Yoda is CG. Yoda disappears leaving his clothes behind like Obi-Wan now.

4. The ewoks are now mostly CG and there are a lot more of them.

5. The plan is to insert the love theme Across the Stars when Luke is talking with Leia about their mother.

6. Temuera Morrison's like before is now the voice for Boba Fett and all the stormtroopers.

7. In the battle of Endor there are thousands of Ewoks and they are more vicious than there midgets-in-suits counterparts. More bite the dust now.

8. White boxes around ships removed.

9. The black blotches around Palpatine's face are gone.

10. Some of the lightsaber effects have been redone. The shadows that the lightsabers made on the floor are gone.

11. During Anakin's death scene it starts with a sad rendition of the Imperial March and slowly evolves into Anakin's Theme.

12. Sebastion Shaw who played Anakin when he was unmasked has been replaced with Hayden Christenson in make-up to make him look older. Anakin has much more dialogue. He apologizes for the destruction he caused, he thanks his son for turning him back to the light, he tells his son to rebuild the Jedi and he says he loves him and his sister. Just before he dies he says, "It is finished...".

13. We see more planets celebrating at the end of the movie. We see an aged Jar Jar, who is now the leader of the Gungans, on Naboo celebrating with the people of Naboo and the Gungans. We see an old Watto, who is now unable to fly, sitting in a hover chair cheering on Tatooine. During these scenes Across the Stars plays transitioning to the victory celebration music at the Ewok tree village.

14. Anakin's spirit is now played by Hayden Christenson with make-up to make him look his age. He looks on proudly at his son Luke with the spirit of Padme by his side.


Again, these are more of a wish list than accurate information. We also wanted to tell you something perhaps even more significant. Episode I: The Phantom Menace is getting a full overhaul as well. We'll leave you with that for now.

A little "fishy" weird list, but i kinda like it, i hope it is true.

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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2003, 12:28 PM »
I hate how these lists are raising hopes for some people.  I am 99% sure that all these changes are bogus.  We will be getting the SE versions next year.  The only thing that got changed on these cuts is the lightsabers were cleaned up in the duel between Vader and Ben.  I stress no new scenes were added and the lightsabers reflections, etc were cleaned up.  

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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2003, 03:00 PM »
I'll take it with a grain of salt, but if done right, would actually be happy with most of the those additions.  The one glaring one is Padme's ghost, just doesn't seem right.

However, Ultimate Edition or not, I still want the original trilogy in its purest virgin form also.
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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2003, 07:57 PM »
Looks to me like a lot of what us collectors and lovers of the OT have been asking for was simply stuck onto a big list... its probably bogus. All the Hayden additions would suck anyway.

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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2003, 05:11 PM »
A lot of the changes could be very cool, but I see no reason to add different music, add Natalie Portman and Hayden Christianson to ROTJ, have Yoda react to Alderaan,  or have Jango's voice added in for all the Stormtroopers, no need to add Jar Jar and Watto to the end of ROTJ, no need in having R2D2 hover down the stairs, and no reason to redo Jabba from ROTJ.  I hope all of those are just bogus.

Most of the other stuff seems pretty cool though; especially making some of the battles appear more epic with more troops and ships.

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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #5 on: December 9, 2003, 07:39 PM »
OMG! Don't add Jar Jar to the OT in any form I didn't like his ass in Ep I or Ep II... Don't Plage ROTJ with that Bloody Fool Unless it's to show his Death.  As far as showing a Padme In ROTJ that is insane she wasn't a Jedi and she didn't have anything special about her... Spirts are reserved for Jedi.  :-\

As for the redo of Ep I all I can say is... Whatca waiting on get to work.  Don't forget kut out as much of Jar Jar as can be,  the less I see of him the better.

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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2003, 01:49 PM »
what does everyone have against Jar Jar?
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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2003, 11:33 AM »
Jar Jar Binks in my opinion is the best New Trilogy Character alongside Qui-Gon. Out of the new Trilogy I do not like the character of Jango Fett.

There is truth to the Original SE Trilogy getting some updated material. At C2 I was talking with some guys from ILM and they told me back than that they were already making some visual updates to the original films. They said there were some things that would help tie up all six movies, visual enhancements such as computer dispalys, ect. From what I have been told and from now what I have been hearing that this updated version of the Original Trilogy is George Lucas's last attempt to get the film finished the way it was susposed to be.

I do not think that there will be major changes to the films, just minor things to make all of the films look consistant.

Take this with a grain of salt but from what I have been told the SE Trilogy comes out on DVD in 2004, E3 in 2005 (DVD probably by Christmas), and a Star Wars Saga Gift Set in 2006/2007.

I do not think that the changes will be as drastic as the SE changes. But there are changes being made. What they exactly are nobody can say except the artists at ILM.

We will just have to wait and see.
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Re: Classic Trilogy "Ultimate Edition" In The Works?
« Reply #8 on: January 9, 2004, 11:45 AM »
To be honest I would be very surprised if there are tons of changes.  I would think Boba Binks comments would be more on the mark.