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How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« on: June 4, 2004, 11:47 AM »
Reading in other threads about how people would have liked to have seen the OTC "officially" start in January of this year instead of the fall, and so on, got me to thinking about how I would have done things differently.  So, in my own little fantasy world, where I am a viking, I began to formulate how I would have handled the year of 2004 from a product perspective.  Keep in mind this is just my own opinion and is based on pure fantasy (although many of the products I mention are/have actually being/been released).  I'm curious to hear what others would have done in their own fantasy world.

Also, in this fantasy world, I am happily married to Rachael Leigh Cook, but I digress...

HOW I WOULD HAVE HANDLED THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY COLLECTION:

Basic Figures: there would be nine waves throughout the year, consisting of the following:

JANUARY: HOTH WAVE
-Luke Skywalker in Hoth Gear
-R-3P0
-Hoth Rebel Soldier

FEBRUARY: TATOOINE WAVE
-Luke Skywalker-Jabba's Palace
-R1-G4
-R2-D2-Jabba's Sail Barge

APRIL: JABBA'S PALACE WAVE
-Lando Calrissian-Skiff Guard
-Rappertunie
-Holographic Luke Skywalker
-Tanus Spijek
-J'Quille

MAY: BATTLE OF YAVIN WAVE
-General Dodonna
-Gold Leader
-TIE Fighter Pilot
-Captain Antilles

JULY: STAR DESTROYER WAVE
-Bossk
-Dengar
-Admiral Ozzel

AUGUST: ENDOR WAVE
-Han Solo in Endor Gear (soft goods coat with helmet)
-General Madine
-General Lando Calrissian

SEPTEMBER: DAGOBAH WAVE
-Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi
-Dagobah Luke Skywalker
-Yoda
-R2-D2 Dagobah Damage

NOVEMBER: CLOUD CITY WAVE
-Cloud Car Pilot
-Lobot
-Princess Leia in Bespin Gown

DECEMBER: EPISODE III SNEAK PREVIEW WAVE
-General Grevious
-Second Gen Clone Trooper
-Wookiee Warrior

This would give a grand total of 31 regular carded figures, all on the OTC cards with backgrounds (even the EIII figures would have a corresponding background).

VINTAGE STYLE FIGURES: would be released in waves just like they are being this fall, in the months between basic figure waves.  Same assortments:

MARCH: A NEW HOPE
-Luke Skywalker
-Han Solo
-Princess Leia
-Obi-Wan Kenobi

JUNE: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
-Darth Vader
-C-3P0
-Lando Calrissian
-Yoda

OCTOBER: RETURN OF THE JEDI
-Boba Fett
-R2-D2
-Stormtrooper
-Chewbacca

DVD SETS:  if they had to do this, the four packs would include the four figures from each VOTC wave in a box (uncarded, for people who weren't all that concerned about the packaging, as nice as it is to look at, or for people who wanted to keep one VOTC in the package but still have a loose one as well).  For the sake of completion:

A NEW HOPE BOX SET: Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, and Obi-Wan Kenobi

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK BOX SET: Darth Vader, Threepio, Lando Calrissian, and Yoda

RETURN OF THE JEDI BOX SET: Chewbacca, Boba Fett, R2-D2, and Stormtrooper

ULTRA FIGURE ASSORTMENTS:  these would be the same figures already released this year (Rieekan, Threepio, Wampa, Jabba, Denizens, and Ewok) using the same strategy already used.  In addition, a new Han Solo in Carbonite with pack-in Ugnaught would have been released for the Cloud City wave and a new Biker Scout with Speeder Bike would have been released for the Endor wave.  Just my dream you know.

VEHICLES: I don't know about these, but I would have definitely released a new Cloud Car with a head-swapped CC Pilot at some point.  

Note: There would be no Hall of Fame series at all released.  There would be no need for them (and there is no need for them) given the presence of the "Ultimate" VOTC series.  Also, the old X-Wing, TIE, and Falcon would not be released as they are now because the sculpts for all three are outdated and pitiful given today's standards.  If they wanted to release something nice, stick with the Red Leader X-Wing at TRU, a TIE with accurate solar panels at WM, and a totally new Falcon from the ground up at another retailer (I can't imagine who would take it on though).

So that's my dream world.  The land of no repacks, no useless resculpts, and no insulting of the consumer intelligence.  Anyone else living in a dream world? :)

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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #1 on: June 4, 2004, 12:17 PM »
Well...I could have went a couple of ways...

In my fantasy world they would have stuck with the one Wave a month stuff for the whole year

JANUARY: HOTH WAVE
-Luke Skywalker in Hoth Gear
-R-3P0
-Hoth Rebel Soldier

FEBRUARY: TATOOINE WAVE
-Luke Skywalker-Jabba's Palace
-R1-G4
-R2-D2-Jabba's Sail Barge

MARCH: JABBA'S PALACE WAVE
-Lando Calrissian-Skiff Guard
-Rappertunie
-Holographic Luke Skywalker
-Tanus Spijek
-J'Quille

APRIL: BATTLE OF YAVIN WAVE
-General Dodonna
-Gold Leader
-TIE Fighter Pilot
-Captain Antilles

MAY: STAR DESTROYER WAVE
-Bossk
-Dengar
-Admiral Ozzel

JUNE: ENDOR WAVE
-Han Solo in Endor Gear (soft goods coat with helmet)
-General Madine
-General Lando Calrissian

JULY: DAGOBAH WAVE
-Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi
-Dagobah Luke Skywalker
-Yoda
-R2-D2 Dagobah Damage

JULY: ANH VOTC

-Luke Skywalker
-Han Solo
-Obi-Wan Kenobi
-Princess Leia

AUGUST: CLOUD CITY WAVE
-Cloud Car Pilot
-Lobot
-Princess Leia in Bespin Gown

AUGUST: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK VOTC
-Darth Vader
-C-3P0
-Lando Calrissian
-Yoda

SEPTEMBER:  TATOOINE WAVE II

-Hem Dazon
-Feltipern Trevagg
-Obi-Wan Kenobi (Dagobah Repaint)
-R5-D4

SEPTEMBER: VOTC ROTJ

-Boba Fett
-R2-D2
-Stormtrooper
-Chewbacca

OCTOBER: HOTH WAVE II

-General Veers
-Hoth Vader (Holo?)
-Princess Leia Resculpt
-Major Bren Derlin

NOVEMBER: ENDOR WAVE II

-Luke Skywalker Endor (resculpt)
-Chief Chirpa/Romba 2 Pack
-C-3PO w/ Articulated Knees
-Scout Trooper SA

DECEMBER: DEATH STAR WAVE

-Grand Moff Tarkin Resculpt
-Sim Aloo
-Death Star Gunner Resculpt
-General Tagge


I think these last 3-4 waves should have ALL been VOTC style with the Vintage style cards...mix in some new figures, main character resculpts and you could even do SOME reissues, but not recycling old figures from 6 years ago.  Its beyond dumb, I see all of those figures moving in some degree or another plus if the goal is to entice new collectors why not satisfy your established buyers with some new resculpts that the new collector would enjoy as well

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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #2 on: June 4, 2004, 12:23 PM »
That is a pretty damn nice list you made there.

I would make a couple of minor tweaks myself, as I would change the following waves:

- in the Hoth wave I would have added a Wedge Antilles Snowspeeder pilot

- I also would have moved J'Quille or Elom out of the Palace wave and put one into the Tatooine wave for better distribution

- in the Star Destroyer wave I would add a new Death Star Trooper

- in the Endor wave I would have added in a new Ewok w/ baby

- in the Cloud City wave I would add a new head Bespin Guard

- in the EP3 preview wave I would add Sly Moore


I really like the Ultra/Deluxe ideas, but I would also add some more Screen Scenes:

Death Star Conference - seated Tarkin, Tagge and standing Vader

Echo Base - Snowspeeder pilot, Rebel Technician, Toryn Farr

Jabba's Palace - new Bib Fortuna, new Gamorrean Guard, new Yak Face

EP3 Preview - Lars family Owen, Beru and Cliegg


Just a few thoughts, need to get back to work!

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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #3 on: June 4, 2004, 12:25 PM »
Oh yeah Screen Scenes...nice ideas on those CHEWIE...the Lars family is one I'd be working my butt off trying to fit in.  I don't think it would be a huge seller though, exclusive run of say 5-10 thousand through SSW.com???  Or maybe online exclusive via TRU.com

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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #4 on: June 4, 2004, 01:40 PM »
There's a problem here though...what if you were a kid and you wanted a "regular" (Tatooine) Luke Skywalker.
You would either have to buy a 10.00 VOTC figure, or a 30.00-40.00 set of figures.  That's just not good business.

While I have no interest in the HOF figures, I am glad to see them on the pegs, and to tell you the thruth, I see kids and parents
looking at  them often.

We must remember, that with the DVDs new kids will come to Star Wars who want the main players, not old men like Ozzel, and Dodonna.
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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #5 on: June 4, 2004, 01:42 PM »
Oh yeah...I left out the fact that they shouldn't be gouging us on figures that have no more articulation than regular OTC figures do...there's no reason the VOTC couldn't be $5

Good point though Mike

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Re: How Would *You* Have Done Things Differently?
« Reply #6 on: June 8, 2004, 04:26 AM »
OK, my turn!   :)

First off, I'm sure DP was referring to me in that first comment, about starting the OTC line at the beginning of this year's run of figures.  So let's make that the first thing on my list of things I would have done.  So the OTC starts out with the Hoth wave.  I'll try to stick with the basic outline Hasbro's already provided us with this year, with a few alterations here and there.  Just to keep things nice and tidy, I'll go with a 5 figure wave, plus an Ultra, for each month.   8)

2004 OTC line:

JANUARY: HOTH WAVE
- Luke Skywalker in Hoth Gear
- R-3P0
- Hoth Rebel Soldier (regular sized, not a freaking MIDGET!  >:()
- General Veers with Removable Armor (added)
- Major Bren Derlin (added)
- Ultra Wampa
- Ultra Rieekan (that's 2 Ultras in this wave, but I won't tell)

FEBRUARY: TATOOINE WAVE
- Luke Skywalker - Jabba's Palace
- R1-G4
- R2-D2 - Jabba's Sail Barge (with clear glasses on the tray, and various colored drinks in them)
- All new R5-D4 (added)
- WED15-1662 Treadwell Droid, orange multi-armed Sandcrawler droid (added)
- Ultra C-3PO with Escape Pod (slightly shinier metallic body, though still dirty)

MARCH: JABBA'S PALACE WAVE
- Lando Calrissian - Skiff Guard
- Rappertunie
- Holographic Luke Skywalker
- Tanus Spijek (better case ratio)
- J'Quille (better case ratio)
- Ultra Jabba
- Ultra Jabba's Denizens (two again.  Hasbro's fault!  :P)
- Vehicle: Jabba's Sail Barge $60 (big!)

APRIL: BATTLE OF YAVIN WAVE
- Gold Leader (Dutch)
- TIE Fighter Pilot
- Captain Antilles (with more accurate coloring on clothes)
- Red Leader (added) - not that cheap crap version that just came with the new X-wing
- Ceremonial Han Solo (added)
- Ultra General Dodonna with large, round war room tactical table display

MAY: STAR DESTROYER WAVE
- Bossk 4-LOM (added)
- Dengar
- Admiral Ozzel
- Zuckuss (added)
- Imperial Naval Trooper, new sculpt (added)
- Ultra Darth Vader in Meditation Chamber (added)

JUNE: ENDOR WAVE
- Han Solo in Endor Gear (soft goods coat with removable AT-ST Driver helmet)
- General Madine
- General Lando Calrissian
- X-Wing Pilot Wedge Antilles (added)
- Chief Chirpa/Romba 2-pack (added)
- Ultra Ewok with Glider
- Ultra Ewok with Catapult (added)

JULY: DAGOBAH WAVE
- Spirit of Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Dagobah Luke Skywalker (with neutral articulated arms, instead of the permanently bent ones)
- Yoda
- R2-D2 Dagobah Muck
- Rehash the Dagobah Vader here?   :-[
- Ultra...?   :-\

JULY: ANH VOTC (all at $5.99 price point)

- Luke Skywalker
- Han Solo
- Obi-Wan Kenobi
- Princess Leia

AUGUST: CLOUD CITY WAVE
- Cloud Car Pilot
- Lobot
- Princess Leia in Bespin Gown
- Black Bespin Security Guard (added)
- ICMG (added)  8)
- Ultra Han Solo on Torture Rack (added)
- Vehicle: Twin Pod Cloud Car $20 (added)

AUGUST: ESB VOTC (all at $5.99 price point)
- Darth Vader
- C-3P0
- Lando Calrissian
- Yoda

SEPTEMBER:  CANTINA WAVE! (added)   :o   8)

- Hem Dazon (Arcona)
- Bom Vimdin
- Elis Helrot (Givins)
- Feltipern Trevagg (Gotal)
- Myo
- Ultra Dannik Jerikko with U-shaped end portion of the bar
- Screen Scene I: Bar with previously unreleased Kitik, Wuher & Evezan
- Screen Scene II: Mos Eisley - CZ-3, Wioslea, Dagobah Spirit Ben with regular paint job
- Vehicle: Sandcrawler - resculpted about 33% bigger, $50

SEPTEMBER: ROTJ VOTC (all at $5.99 price point)

- Boba Fett
- R2-D2
- Stormtrooper
- Chewbacca

OCTOBER: Jabba's Palace Wave II (added)

- Yarna d'al' Gargan
- Hermi Odle
- BG-J38  (Jabba's Palace Maintenance Droid & Holochess champ)
- Ishi Tibb (Palace version)
- Sergeant Doallyn (Palace version)
- Ultra Ak-Rev/Umpaz Stay 2-pack with drums
- Vehicle:  Resculpted (to-scale) Skiff

OCTOBER: POTF VOTC (added, all at $5.99 price point)

- Emperor
- X-Wing Luke/Wedge/Biggs (interchangeable noggins)
- Jawa/R5-D4 2-pack
- Emperor's Royal Guard (soft goods cloak)

NOVEMBER: Padme Amidala Wave (added)  8)

- Celebration Amidala with Peace Globe (TPM)
- Handmaiden/Rabe (TPM)
- Travel Gown (TPM)
- Dominatrix (Fireside) Padme (AOTC)
- Sound of Music (Picnic) Padme (AOTC)
- Ultra Naboo Lakeside Retreat Padme with boat (AOTC)  :P

DECEMBER: Random Prequel Wave (added) (assuming Pablo Jill, Yarua & Sly Moore are coming)

- Swokes Swokes (Gragra)
- Tey How (Neimoidian Controller)
- Daultay Dofine
- Wald/Kitster 2-pack
- Jocasta Nu
- Ultra...?
- Screen Scene: Lars Family - Cliegg, Owen, Beru
- Target Ep. 3 Preview Glass set with Darth Vader (to round out the glass series)


Yeah.  I think that should do it.  Thanks Hasbro!   :-*