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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2004, 12:30 AM »
No. But if the movie was any longer, I might have given him a reason to. :-*
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« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2004, 03:00 AM »


Such ignorance is disheartening. :(

I agree, it's amazing that so many people would piss away $10 on a piece of liberal propaganda.  That's 2 OTC Cloud Car Pilot figures right there.
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« Reply #62 on: July 11, 2004, 10:49 AM »


Such ignorance is disheartening. :(

I agree, it's amazing that so many people would piss away $10 on a piece of liberal propaganda.  That's 2 OTC Cloud Car Pilot figures right there.

Hey why not, people read Ann Coulte and Sean Hannity's books after all...

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« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2004, 07:19 PM »
A recent report indicated that by the end of its third week in distribution, Fahrenheit 9/11 had grossed slightly over $80 million.  This last weekend (the weekend of July 10), Fahrenheit 9/11 was shown in more than 2,000 theaters across the country, its third screen increase in as many weeks.  Yay.

Oh, and yesterday (July 13), Reuters reported that opening day receipts for F9/11 had broken British box office records for a documentary.  Way to go, Moore.   :D
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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2004, 09:48 PM »


Oh, and yesterday (July 13), Reuters reported that opening day receipts for F9/11 had broken British box office records for a documentary.  Way to go, Moore.   :D

Um, not quite sure a documentary is totally accurate.  That much selective editing really sort of detracts from the document portion of the word.  Bias is still bias, even if you like it.
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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2004, 09:50 PM »
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Bias is still bias, even if you like it.

Absolutely. I didn't watch it as a history lesson, but that didn't make it any less entertaining.

It's a movie. It's entertainment. It's an op-ed piece....which means it's full of facts but yeah, they're biased.

Think of it as "The Passion of the Christ" for the exact opposite audience.  ;D ;D
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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2004, 11:38 PM »


Oh, and yesterday (July 13), Reuters reported that opening day receipts for F9/11 had broken British box office records for a documentary.  Way to go, Moore.   :D

Um, not quite sure a documentary is totally accurate.  That much selective editing really sort of detracts from the document portion of the word.  Bias is still bias, even if you like it.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences defines a documentary as the following:

I. DEFINITION
1. An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction.

With Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore presented facts.  You can dispute whether or not he 'stretched' the truth or added significant bias in the film, but in the end, he presented facts.  Personally, I thought Moore was too gentle.  He could've presented plenty of other interesting tidbits of info about Bush (but didn't).    

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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2004, 10:23 AM »


Oh, and yesterday (July 13), Reuters reported that opening day receipts for F9/11 had broken British box office records for a documentary.  Way to go, Moore.   :D

Um, not quite sure a documentary is totally accurate.  That much selective editing really sort of detracts from the document portion of the word.  Bias is still bias, even if you like it.

Most documentaries are biased to one degree or another.  Any intro level film class that touches on documentary will teach you that.  His film falls well within the realm of documentary - whether you agree with his conclusions or not, there's no disputing that documentary applies.

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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2004, 05:47 PM »
I'd be remiss not to point out what happened to George Lucas' ex-girlfriend when she expressed her support for this flick, and Moore.



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« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2004, 06:02 PM »
Fahrenheit 9/11 took in another $7.2 million this past weekend, bringing its total gross to about $94 million.  Not bad.  
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« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2004, 12:06 AM »
Fahrenheit 9/11 took in another $7.2 million this past weekend, bringing its total gross to about $94 million.  Not bad.  

Considering it's almost FIVE times the previous record gross for a documentary, I'd say so.

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« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2004, 10:13 PM »
I mentioned this to KBZ earlier today I thought it would make for a good road trip for some of the members.


http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/columnists/bud_kennedy/9196716.htm?1c



Coming soon to a bedsheet or TV

By Bud Kennedy

Star-Telegram Staff Writer


What do the Texas cities of Alpine, Greenville, Seguin and Sherman have in common?

Wrong.

This is tough to believe, but Greenville doesn't have a Dairy Queen.

What Greenville and all those other cities do have, though, is Fahrenheit 9/11.

But not Waco.

Waco is larger. But up to now, it has been a Fahrenheit-free zone.

Filmmaker Michael Moore's political broadside against President Bush will finally open Friday in suburban Woodway, its first showing anywhere near his McLennan County ranch.

The movie will come even closer Aug. 14, when peace activists plan to show it on a bedsheet in the front yard of a house in Crawford.

Until now, the nearest Fahrenheit theater has been 40 miles away in Temple. A small movie house in a mall there has the only showings between Fort Worth and Pflugerville, north of Austin.

The idea for the Crawford show started when Waco Tribune-Herald columnist John Young wrote a tongue-in-cheek letter asking Moore to send a DVD for Fahrenheit-deprived fans to watch on a big-screen TV somewhere -- "if it's not a football weekend."

Moore offered to come to show the movie if someone would provide "the sheet and the barn."

The activists camped in Crawford took him up on the idea. They're already thinking about moving the event to the high school football stadium, which might give a whole new meaning to the term "political football."

Now, a Central Texas clash is about to unreel. All because until now no Waco theater has been showing the movie.

Love it or hate it, Fahrenheit is closing in on "blockbuster" movie earnings. It was showing on 2,004 screens nationwide last week and has brought in $93.8 million, meaning it is holding up better than Anchorman or Dodgeball.

I haven't rushed out to see it. From what I've read, Moore argues a few valid points and takes a lot of gleeful cheap shots.

But America has survived 16 years of radio hosts turning politics into showbiz. We can handle one movie.

At least one prominent Waco Democrat is uneasy about the Crawford showing.

State Rep. Jim Dunnam, leader of the Texas House Democrats who bailed for the Oklahoma border during a rumble last year in the Texas Legislature, said he thinks that Fahrenheit is "thought-provoking" and that showing it in Waco is a great idea -- but maybe not at a showboating peace event in Crawford.

"I think that'll detract from the experience for people who just want to go and watch the movie," he said by phone Monday from his law office. "Both sides will create a furor over this. It's unnecessary."

Johnny Wolf, owner of the Crawford Peace House, said Moore's crews visited there when they were scouting scenes.

The movie's message is the same as peace activists', he said.

"I understand that the Democrats have their issues," said Wolf, 49, owner of a business near Dallas that builds stage sets and props. "But if they had been doing their job against the war all along, we wouldn't have the mess we have today."

The movie is regularly selling out a 98-seat auditorium in Temple. News reports brought business from as far away as the northern suburbs of Austin, said Tony Delgado, manager of the Premiere Cinema 12.

One couple drove from Midland, apparently not knowing that Fahrenheit is now showing in Abilene, Odessa and San Angelo. Not to mention Alpine.

"People stop and thank us for running the movie," Delgado said. The sellouts don't reflect criticism of Bush, he said. "The people are smart moviegoers. They know it's just a movie."

A vice president of the Big Spring-based Premiere Cinemas said that if Moore wants to promote the movie near Bush's ranch, he should do it in Temple.

"I'm not sure what he would accomplish" in Crawford, Joel Davis said. "I would think he'd want his movie shown in a proper venue."

After Fahrenheit hit No. 1 the first week, Lions Gate and IFC Films expanded distribution into cities such as Amarillo and Wichita Falls. Outside Texas, it's showing in towns such as Ponca City, Okla.; Russellville, Ark., and Mandeville, La.

In Greenville, northeast of Dallas, theater owner Loyd Brigance said the movie isn't doing much business there.

"Ten, 12 people at a time," he said gruffly.

"Most of the folks who come are disappointed. They expected to see a movie. All this does is bash the president."

If Greenville is big enough to offer Fahrenheit as an option for moviegoers to cheer or ignore, why did it take so long to get to Waco?

Waco's a big city. It has 10 Dairy Queens.


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Re: fahrenheit 9/11
« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2004, 10:36 PM »
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The movie will come even closer Aug. 14, when peace activists plan to show it on a bedsheet in the front yard of a house in Crawford.

That's at the Crawford Peace House purchased by North Texans for Peace, several friends of mine are actively involved with it including my next door neighbor. The house is on the only road you can take to Bush's ranch. The problem is, he always arrives by helicopter and never sees the protests and displays at the Crawford House. I've actually been to it. My neighbor and I went down there right after it was purchased. I will admit, I was a little uneasy with all the secret service agents driving slowly by. Of course, it was new then. Now, the secret service barely pays attention to them. Obviously, this is merely a symbolic gesture. I doubt it will accomplish anything other than "neener neener neener!" (or is it "nanny nanny boo boo"?)

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« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2004, 10:43 PM »
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The movie will come even closer Aug. 14, when peace activists plan to show it on a bedsheet in the front yard of a house in Crawford.

That's at the Crawford Peace House purchased by North Texans for Peace, several friends of mine are actively involved with it including my next door neighbor. The house is on the only road you can take to Bush's ranch. The problem is, he always arrives by helicopter and never sees the protests and displays at the Crawford House. I've actually been to it. My neighbor and I went down there right after it was purchased. I will admit, I was a little uneasy with all the secret service agents driving slowly by. Of course, it was new then. Now, the secret service barely pays attention to them. Obviously, this is merely a symbolic gesture. I doubt it will accomplish anything other than "neener neener neener!" (or is it "nanny nanny boo boo"?)

In that case Spiderlegs, do you know any of the email addresses of those guys or if they have a website?  The article doesn't seem to mention if this is official or not and if so when it would happen.  My buddy and I are interested in possibly driving down if it's really happening.

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